The Woodworking Wacko - Psychopath Cameron Hooker | Mystery & Makeup | Bailey Sarian
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Today we’re talking about Cameron Hooker: was everything terrible you can imagine. The worst part, nobody even did anything about it for years- not even his wife. What do you guys think should have happened to Janice after all of this?
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I know Colleen personally. She is an incredible woman and you would never know this horrible thing happened. She is married and has a kid and a grandkid.
That's great to hear!!
Read my comment from a few minutes ago. I’m so happy to know she’s doing well.
Bailey has mentioned people from her stories contacting her. Crazy how some of her viewers have connections to people in these stories.
I thought I read that she died of cancer. I am glad that's not true! She deserves to have the best life now.
I hope she knows how proud we all are of her and her strength.
for anyone watching I'm glad to inform you that his parole was denied and he won't have any other chances till 2030 which with his age I doubt he will reach that year and be release.
I just google it 😁
Thanks you
Thank you!
@@StephanieforeverloveKiriAllan7
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One of the great things about the way Bailey tells stories is I leave knowing the victims names better than the criminals.
True that, yo
Oh that’s so true
You're so right, I never thought about this before
Marliz and Colleen
True! I hadn’t actually considered that but you’re right…
Instead of releasing predators, like Cameron, they should be releasing people that were arrested on marijuana related charges
Depends, were children involved? Were there any losses of life or suffering.
@debbontrager4734 doubtful, but in those cases they can stay where they are for all I care. As for the simple charges of just use and possession that did no harm, should be freed, and nasty people like this guy absolutely need to stay put
@@pantyclipperz5002yes, you are absolutely correct!! Most cases of marijuana charges are simply possession, no one was hurt or in danger. They should absolutely be freed, especially in states where it is now legal, and there’s a smoke shop on every corner!! Let them be with their families and loved ones!
Victimless crimes, yes get them out… 7+ years of torture, let them rot in prison
@@lillianstimpson6610 most were victims of three strikes for possession, and somehow marijuana gets more time than coke
We need a shirt with “I’m laughing because I’m uncomfortable” it’s honestly a vibe cause it’s true.
Yesss
Ooooh, Great Idea!!!
Take my money lol yes please!
Yes!!
Yes! Absolutely!
2024 update- HIS TRIAL WAS DENIEDD!!!!
Thank you so much I went searching but couldn’t find anything haha
No I think it was just delayed again. It was supposed to be March 29th 2024 but got delayed until August again from what I’m seeing.
Yeah I see it was delayed but I couldn’t find much
That man does NOT deserve to get out of prison. Absolutely insane.
Also it’s not safe at all
as of 10/23/23 his case was continued becase his defense attorny wants to get a expert to evaluate him. his new trial date for release is on 11/20/23. i'm definitely keeping this on my watch list. i agree with you. unless he's in a cremation box he should not be let out from behind those prison walls.
@@marytramp5678need an update 😦
He out
@@roxytaylor9922he’s out???
I just keep thinking about Janice and Cameron’s children. A mobile home is not large enough to hide any of the things going on from them and they must have so much trauma even as adults
The sad part is that this man has waaaaay better conditions in prison then conditions he kept his victim in for years. Thanks Bailey for giving victims a respect and teaching about Stockholm Syndrom
For real, though.
Some of these crimes, we definitely treat them way better than they deserve.
Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaa....... they should've kept him in a box... can they make that addition to his sentencing when he has his trial in October?? 🤔
Oh gawd; I hadn't even thought of that until now and now I'm even more sickened :/
Prisons in the US are no picnic. Some of them are pretty close to being that bad.
Colleen was constantly told that The company was going to be after her if she left. The minute she knew that wasn't true, she scaped, I think that answers the question "why didn't she leave?"
Being abused too
Yeah LITERALLY THIS..
Such a beautifully easy answer to all the people who ask that "why didn't you leave?" question. NICELY PUT!! 😊
Reminds me of that criminal minds episode
@@rKyaruI was thinking that the entire video
This woman has the willpower of a mountain. To not lose your absolute mind during any part of this. I hope she’s thriving.
If he could manipulate a 20+ year old into staying in his horror house, then I think it’s fair to say 15 year old Janice had no chance. She’s as much as a victim.
Thank you for saying this, I feel like it’s something really looked over in the entire case.
Eh. She wasn’t literally chained in a box. She is just as bad as him regardless of what age she was when she WILLINGLY got with him. As a person who has been abused in not only relationships but as a child your abuse isn’t a reason to be complacent in this mistreatments of others. Especially to this extreme for as long as she did.
@@megaroon202 exactly thank you..
Both of them could have escaped easily or taken the guy. She was just as complicit 🙄 what a terrible person she is
@@halroxdynasty8683 ya theres naivety and then theres lack of moral compass. Her complicity is the ladder.
15 year old colleen**
The reason Coline didn't cry in the stand was because she learned to dissociate. It is one of the most common trauma responses. It shows you how complex the brain is in response to trauma and how adaptive the brain can be.
100%!!!
Right. It's funny how judgdmental people are when it comes to trauma responses that they don't understand
@@MsHeather2013 most of those people just speak from a place of ignorance and the ones that understand the aforementioned comment, likely understand due to personal experience with extreme trauma. You’re all very much correct though. The brain is so complex and there are still likely more things we don’t know about the complexities of the brain, than the things we do know.
We only use about 10% of our brain. Who knows what the rest of it does or stores away whenever we need it.
@@HoneyShrimpsthat's actually a myth
As a survivor of Stockholm Syndrome, I am so appreciative of how compassionately you described it. My captor killed himself the week the investigation into him started, so thankfully I never had to face him in court. It’s been several months since I was freed and I still have nightmares about the two years I spent with him nearly every night. The healing process is so complex and difficult. Thank you for sharing victims’ stories without shaming them for what they were put through.
You are so strong. I look up to people like you. I’m proud of you and I’m sorry you experienced that.
I'm so glad you made it through it🖤
I hope you have the help and support you need to heal ❤
You are so brave and I hope you’re okay.
You survived and I am glad because you belong here. Sending hugs and compassion.
"idk call the police instead of me" is actually insane. like yes hes right it needs to be reported to the cops but like maybe help her report it??? help her leave??
Thank-you!
As a Chicoan I had to laugh out loud. Bailey “was I in Chico? Must be by accident” 😂
the fact that people kept asking "why didn't they leave" and not "why did this guy do all of these horrible things" blows my mind. the victim blaming is absolutely INSANE and infuriating.
exactly
it’s not always victim blaming when one asks “why didn’t they leave” It can be an attempt to understand.
Just as the question “why did this guy do all these horrible things” is also an attempt to understand.
Also, it seems everybody was asking both questions .
Did you strain your back doing all that reaching
But you only have CONTROL over what YOU DO. Not the freak. (P.s. you can block the person whose using Bailey's face 😊 for scamming peeps)
Just because someone asks a question doesn't mean it's victim blaming. Gen z really has thought of a way to shut down anyone who dares ask a question
I once read about a science experiment with flies in a jar. Initially when placed in the jar, the flies tried tirelessly to escape. As time passed, their attempts became increasingly feeble. Eventually, the scientists removed the lid: none of the flies made any attempt to escape.
While we are not flies- the brain is everything, and it is incredibly complicated. Never judge a trauma response
Interesting
exactly!! we humans have the same response
They've also done similar studies with dogs and mild electrical shocks. The phenomenon is called "learned helplessness".
Look up the chained elephant theory
Flys have a very short life span… they were probably almost dead
Interesting, I was flipping through my brother's Red Bluff High senior yearbook from 1976. I was shocked to see Janice in the same class, not only that but she was using Cameron's last name. I believe that she'd been with Cameron since she was 15.
This was a horrific crime, I was quite young and had nightmares after this. I pray Colleen has peace now.
Glad that Colleen has moved on, and hopefully has a happier life, one of my worst nightmares was if my children had gotten kidnapped, and such
as a survivor of stockholm syndrome, i cant thank you enough for using your platform to raise awareness. i really do love you bailey, i’ve been watching for years and i’m so grateful for your advocacy.
So if this is Cameron at 23 years old, imagine how effing creepy this dude must have been as a teenager and child. 😳
ugh the shiver that went down my spine thinking about it😨
The thing that genuenly scares me is this was not the fist girl that he captured but the first girl he captured he cut tried her wocal cords so she couldnt scream but she bled out
When I read a true crime book about this case at way, way too young, it didn't click with me how YOUNG they were. I always pictured them as middle aged. It blew my mind when I got older and was like "ONLY TWENTY-THREE????"
Imagine how he will be now !
According to a Google search on Colleen now, she eventually got married years after she escaped, she got an accounting degree, had a child and has one grandchild now and is 65 years old and also helping counsel other women and their trauma. What a beautiful person. My love to Colleen ❤ x
I don't think her story has such a happy ending. According to recent articles she ""tried to move on to a normal life, but misery followed her-a string of failed marriages and a troubled child, now in jail."
@morgantperry well, she's not in a box, so that's better than the before. Freedom is worth some family issues.
Well technically she’s in a box if she’s in jail. Just a different type of box
@@T.-_-.T.-_-.T I understood the comment saying "Troubled child, now in jail" referring the *child* was in jail? I could be wrong for sure. I may google it myself in a bit.
@@MintMuffinz I must have missed a comment here. Because there seems to be one missing. You’re probably right!
I love that slick little "I guess they'd have to out themselves" when talking about the pastors. 🥰
Unsolved mysteries on Netflix just did an episode about the first girl called “a ghost in apartment 14” for anyone interested. Pretty crazy
My claustrophobia is so bad I think I’m going to die when my head gets stuck in a sweater. I cannot even begin to imagine what Colleen went through. Her strength is incredible
Me too and forget about turtlenecks.
Dude SAME
Me too….I freak out!
Same
Same tho!!!
Not "DIY Daddy" 😂😭 The way you can insert humor into something so horrific is honestly masterful
Love how she mocks him while talking 'mhmm thats why she got bad knees"😅
ik a lot of people criticise her for telling these stories in a disrespectful manner but this is the only way i can digest true crime content
@@juliesnoot2818 A lot of people use humor to cope with tragedy, it's not uncommon at all! I feel it would be disrespectful if she were disparaging the victims in any way, but she really only cracks jokes/throws insults toward the perpetrators of these crimes 🤷♀️ that's just my two cents!
She shares that trait with Mike from That Chapter😂
I think it is rude and disrespectful
I also can't imagine the pain the Coleen's family must have felt. Like, they literally reunited with her after 2 years and it all went down the drain for another 5 years. They probably blame themselves as well because of that.
I read about this like 15 years ago and it NEVER left me! Incomprehensible
I'm a dude who recently found this channel and I just like to say that I've seen other channels that do the makeup and story time bit and I couldn't care less about the makeup itself. I do however find the implications of it fascinating. By her applying makeup it acts as a way to pace the story and more importantly it makes it feel like a friend telling you a story and not a UA-camr reading a script. Bailey seems to be mostly just telling a story adlib from notes and not a script per say. Most importantly she actually starts with a clean face which makes her feel down to earth, honest and less intimidating. Everyone else I've seen do this type of video starts with a completely covered face that looks "natural" and then they apply another look over that. I've always hated that because it feels fake . I see why Bailey is considered the Queen of the genre
I 100% agree!!
pretty sure bailey is the one who started this!! if not probably one of the first :)
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Thank you for being kind when defining Stockholm Syndrome. You really never understand something like that until you're in it.
Especially when someone has so horrifyingly and purposely abused the person into dependance.
Yeass, I've experienced it for years. 😢😢
Yup...
@@MizzTrinieFyre I really hope you're safe now, that's awful.
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What scares me more is the fact that there's numerous amount of books in wattpad romanticising a very similar scenarios
Yup :(
Aside from all the horrendous torture, to be locked inside of the tiny box without being able to use a bathroom like a regular person, sweating there during Cali hot summers laying in my own sweat and using a bad pan by sliding it underneath me and then probably spilling it all over….for MONTHS AND YEARS….I cannot believe this woman not only survived but also remained sane.
I cannot imagine such horrors!
What a strong human being Colleen is. My love to her and her family 🙏🏻.
I would have been begging for death 2 minutes into being put in that box. It's unfathomable what Colleen went through.
I'm claustrophobic. I can't imagine the horror! 😢
I would have ben envisioning his death two seconds into it. I would go SCP 096 on the guy, and the woman, minus the eating them part. I am very impressed with how chill and patient Colleen was.
@decimusvitae "Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth". There's a lot of truth in that quote.
Same. I have Restless Leg Syndrome and confinement makes it worse. A plane ride is bad enough, that box??? No way man. I’d be dead or actually out of my mind
Honestly same. I wouldn’t have wanted to live like that for seven years.
Bailey didn’t mention this but Colleen said it was actually extremely hard to breathe in that head box and it was hot and sweaty. So she was constantly gasping for air 😢 that’s true torture poor Colleen
I dont think I'd have survived that alone. Idk how she made it through. She is stronger than me that's for sure
I don’t think I would’ve managed either. I definitely would have freaked out for it and screamed and been killed early on
Wow, didn't think of that
When I saw the court picture of the head box I out-loud gasped. It looked so suffocating and so heavy. I can’t imagine.
This women should give seminars on breathing techniques, meditation etc to help people with claustrophobia
She said “I will put a box over your head if you get out” THAT WAS HILARIOUS. i can’t believe him getting out is even a possibility. justice for coleen and marliz 💔
Colleen is an incredible woman....this is an unheard of strength. Absolutely unreal
Two things can be true at the same time. She's a victim and perpetrator and it's sad
This, 100%
That’s true, life is full of grey areas
Was going to comment but you summed it up perfectly!
Yup
Just when kids are sexually assaulted/abused in awful ways but then grow up to be monsters. The same applies here, unfortunately. I am not a fan of Jan.
Imagine being the child who had to climb over a woman chained to the toilet in your trailer to use the bathroom at 3am. I’m shocked they didn’t go to school and talk about it like it was no big deal. She was basically their second mother.
This is like a huge "plot hole" for me. The kid was absolutely conditioned but they didn't say anything about it to anyone? They didnt even allude to it once? I believe that it was probably talked about at least once, but it wasnt taken seriously or looked into. Or maybe the kid just referred to her as part of the family, and it didn't raise any red flags? Idk...
Maybe they were homeschooled? It's possible that they weren't in the school system.
@@schuyler6476they grew up in those conditions and were lead to believe it was normal
They were probably homeschooled
@@luckyishcharmsexactly same thing with kids who are shelters in abusive homes the genuine think this is how life is
I saw the lifetime movie about this and couldn't believe how strong and brave she was for surviving this. This story always amazes me. Truly happy she was able to survive and live life ❤🙏🏿
I remember watching a lifetime movie about this, “girl in the box” it’s amazing that she got out and survived those insane years.
A Dark History on Stockholm Syndrome sounds super interesting! And I’m hoping one for Scientology is already in the works 🙏 you’re the best Bailey, keep slaying !!
She’s obsessed with Scientology, I’m sure it’s on the horizon
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Stephanie Harlowe did it and from my understanding Scientology sued her
@@sarahelenatheoriginal709 I couldn’t find anything about her getting sued and the videos are apparently still up so I doubt it
fundy fridays has some great content on religious cults if thats your cup of tea
Im really concerned about marliz because nobody else seems to be. Everyone else in this story lived and has the ending they should have but marliz is forever lost and wasnt even about of his conviction. JUSTICE FOR MARLIZ!! She deserves justice and she deserves to be treated better. Nobody even searched for her
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Like Shana Shana
I've experienced stalkholm syndrome in a dark experience and trust me it feels impossible to leave even tho you know what your experiencing
It terrifies me to think how many missing people end up held captive like this.
1000%
There’s one of those scam comments Bailey was talking about 😂
Yooo look at the scammer up there. 😮
The idea of him spending 23 hours a day in a concrete box being told when he can eat and sleep and wash really fills me with joy.
You are a gifted story teller. And thanks to you, I am finally applying eyeshadow with confidence. :)
I'm thankful for you
i appreciate your nervous laughter so much because I'm ALSO the type who laughs whenever my emotions are high - happy? laughing. sad? laughing. rage? laughing. disgust? again - laughing.
Colleen is friends with my mom and used to live in my hometown. My mom said she is currently trying to get his parole declined. But she is doing very well and is happy given what she went through.
If this is legit, that's crazy you have a connection to Colleen. I hope her efforts are heard and that he stays away forever
Prayers.
Your mom should tell Colleen to petition. She can get everyone to sign it. If it’s an online one she could even contact Bailey to help and link the petition so we can all sign it ❤❤
Definitely get a petition started!
I will sign it, we all will
This really makes me wonder what type of parents Janice and Cameron were to their children. Like poor kids to not know who your parent truly are is mind blowing.
this is what I was thinking at the end too!
And Janice got to continue raising their children! 😳
@@saramattos4974 I know right? Really crazy how the system works 🤨
I wonder how confused they must have been, 2nd mom gets shoved in a box under 1st mom and dads bed?
Probably abusing them too
I'd heard this one told once before, but they didn't cover Marlizs backstory so I didn't recognize it until Colleen but ugh. This is what made me vow to never get in the car with a family lol
Anyone with a baby should not even think to pick up a hitchhiker…. There’s the red flag, ya know….😮
@@amandamcneeley7015 to be fair, times were different then. People hardly hitchike at all anymore.
True true
this video was so hard to get through, and my heart hurts for colleen. i hope for her recovery ❤️
As for Janice: I feel like you can be both a victim and a willing perpetrator
I was thinking the same thing.
Couldn't Janice have also been suffering from Stockholm Syndrome as well? Not to mention Cameron literally "groomed" her from the age of 15. She was a child. Wasn't it possible that her responses were also trauma related and that she was also using what she could to survive as well?
It reminds me of the Shelley Knotek case with her partner. There’s another case as well I can’t remember the woman’s name.
Both haunting
@@sweettaterfrieshas she talked about Shelley?? Such an insane story. Her daughters books is incredible but so sad.
Yes.
She was a perp in my eyes. Through and through. She even had children involved. Sick.
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Janice is just as much of a monster. Evil. Her jealousy was the only reason for her sudden “revelation”.
Please tell me I’m not the only one who died laughing at the end when she said she was gonna write him a letter and say “Hey you piece of $h!t, I’m gonna put a fawking box over your head if you get out!” 😂💀😂💀
I wish we can do that so we can scare him into staying in prison. :)
I’m down, I’m reaaaaaady 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Seriously we all need to write him
I diiiieed
😂😂 not alone
The reason a victim will talk about an experience with no emotions is bc it too is a trauma response and to get the information out of their mouths they have to literally dissociate from the feelings. I do this with my childhood trauma. But believe me I can be a mess about it when I am alone...
I do this with a lot of my trauma. Like with a straight face, I can sit there and talk about my mother's death like I'm talking about the weather, but like you said behind closed doors, I'm a mess.
This really hit me.
I completely agree.
I was abused as a child, and when I talk about it today, my normal reaction is to smile or laugh while I am talking about it. It’s weird. But it gives me the ability to address the issue without feeling too uncomfortable.
On another note, thanks Bailey you are amaze.
Also, we don’t know what went on with Janice. She seems like a thoroughly conflicted person.
All in all, I am glad Colleen is safe. Janice is safe. And a monster is behind bars. And I hope it stays that way. Or better still, I hope he meets his Karma.
Also, once you have processed things, it becomes simply information and you no longer have emotions attached to the trauma.
Agreed. When I talk about mine, I can even joke about it. That is the only way I can get through it.
I sometimes make some off color sarcastic remarks about my traumas.
What am I supposed to do? Rehash the hurt every time? It's not productive for me.
Sarcasm is my friend.
I have mixed feelings about Janice, I feel bad for what she went through but I also feel like she's a horrible human being for not doing anything when it came to Colin. Just because someone was a victim doesn't mean that the pain they caused others is okay. It's a bit creepy that she's a social worker
Totally agree
Think of the manipulation that Colleen went through at the age of 20, and she started that abuse at 15. I don’t ’justify her actions, I just believe this perspective leads to a the answer of why. Janice isn’t a social worker, I’m from Red Bluff.
Cameron should already be unalived but since he's not, he absolutely should not be allowed out of prison. Insanity in Cali once again.
She was literally trained to be afraid to leave. I think people forget the very important detail that she thought she was always being watched.
60 year old here... Can confirm hitchhiking was definitely a legitimate form of travel in the 70s. 😕
That’s how my dad would get to and from work!
I also remember my Dad pulling over on the highway to pick up hitchhikers on numerous occasions in the 70s
60 also. Can confirm, hitching was the only way my older brother & I got to the beach & back in the late 70's, early 80's. (Australia)
Never mind the 70s. I was born in 86. Got my license in 2002 and I remember my friends and I used to offer rides to strangers 😅 that being said we lived in a town of 3000 including the reserve so it was always probably a friend of a friend or our grandmothers' best friends grandson/daughter etc. Still seems sketchy to me looking back on it though.
We didn’t know how dangerous it was then.
Thank you for sharing Colleen’s story! I’d love to hear more about Marie Elizabeth Spannhake or Marliz’s story. I just recently watched the unsolved mystery of apartment 14 and am curious to hear more or the story from your perspective!
I would love to meet Colleen. She's a Survivor and I admire and can relate to helping by sharing her story
The fact that she survived all of this is😳🤯
We need to make sure that f*cker isnt released though. Or if he does we need to make sure and let people know where he lives. Anyone really feeling safe he is being let out this uear?
@@Truthorfib INSANEEE
Quote of the day “it wasn’t all rainbows and lollipops, it was a relationship “ 😂😂
I just had a lolipop in my mouth while listening to that hahah
How did Cameron learn how to be so controlling at 23? Now I'm curious about his background.
I dated a narcissist and I swear they learn their tactics on some 4chan thread or somewhere.
I honestly believe some people are natural manipulators and learn how to hone the skill as they age based on their interactions with people
Natural manipulators. Some of them are born this way.
If they did a movie I can totally see Owen Wilson being this guy. Idk they look similar in the lips. Would be a pretty wild part for him.
It's scary Janic is now a social worker. She was a victim BUT she should also be in prison for her part in both cases. She knew what he was doing and never tried to stop it or report it
Exactly!! She was an accomplice. She should be held accountable for her part in letting this go on for 7 years.
It's easy to judge when you aren't in an abusive relationship. Leaving is not always easy. I managed to but it was difficult, even though I didn't have children.
@Zoe Hope ok but did you help abuse other people in the situation?
@@AirQuotes you don’t know what he said would be done to her if she didn’t. We weren’t there and clearly can not relate, so there’s no way we could have a clue what we would do in that situation. I’ve learned there are so many things to take into account when it comes to people’s actions. Let’s just say she thought about not doing what he said, but we don’t know what her life was like before that and could have a huge impact on her judgement.
Also, another big thing people seem to overlook, we are in a totally different time. People were much more naive (sorry but..) and weren’t as educated on the world so they were quicker to trust things we think are ridiculous like “the company”. I do understand your opinion completely, I just have a habit of- if someone makes a decision I don’t understand, I try to think of anything that could cause me to make that decision. If that makes sense lol
No but. She was a victim. She was FIFTEEN when he took her. And in the end, it was because of her that they're both free.
The only Monday I can forgive for being a Monday, is when Bailey uploads! ❤❤❤
Same. 😂
Me too
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Hi Bailey. This story is unbelievable! My question would be " How did she not go completely crazy?" Love your makeup style, pretty & fashion modern. See you on your next videos, love, Janine Smiley😏🙂😇🤩😍🌌🎶🎵⌚🛋🆒️🌚
I laughed so hard throughout this whole video because of your light hearted humor and now I feel a little bad 🥲 Your humor does help tremendously in helping to stomach such horrific stories though. Thank you ❤
Have you done a video on BTK? That guy is terrifying, because he was so normal on the outside.
He actually was denied. He can't apply for parole again until 2030
Not true, Court date isn't until Oct 23 2023.
@@mandakelly396dammit..I prey he doesn't get out
Yayyyy!
@@mandakelly396that's almost!!
Thank goodness!
This case also literally keeps me up at night. I can’t believe there’s a possibility he could be released we need to do everything possible to make sure he never ever ever is a free man. An absolute monster.
He was released in 2021
@@tereysaocak3062 Wait! What?!? 😮
Oh Jesus.😮
@@tereysaocak3062 Incorrect. He is set to be retried this year. The original court date was 2021, but his lawyer got Covid (for once I’m thinking gooo Covid!) and it stewed around awhile, until this March they set a new date.
Same. There was a Law and Order SVU case that had an enslaved person locked under the bed in a box it’s one of the only few that stay with me after all of these years.
I think regarding Janice, it's possible for a person to be 2 things at once, i.e. a victim and a perpetrator. She did terrible things, and also had terrible things done to her. One shouldn't cancel out the other though.
And just to add.. it's not easy to leave. It's never easy to walk out of a situation not knowing what will happen if you do.. fear is paralyzing.
The prove your loyalty part …
I keep thinking she was miserable to the point where she’s thinking “if i make it out alive, i get to visit family, if not … i get to “end” this …”
Poor thing 😢
I thought she's probably praying there is a bullet in the chamber, I know I would have.
i'm theorizing that he was testing to see if she would point the gun at him 🤔
Shivers shot down my spine when Colleen was in the bathroom and felt something was off and then the box appeared in the backseat. Marliz was sending warnings through the box😰
Yep
I believe it was Colleen’s instincts.
I know my opinion doesn’t matter or should it matter to you but I love your eyes when they are simple , they are so beautiful shaping and bright color takes away from how naturally perfect they are
just saw this on the new unsolved mysteries , a woman moved into her appartment in the 90s and had dreams of her and some parnanormal stuff happned to . Very intersting to think about her trying to get justice and peace even in death , just hoping someone will pay attention and try to help. My thoughts are on this story quite a bit . RIP beautiful
Yeah not all of us were rooting for Janice, I understand that she was groomed and everything but she still played a complete role in keeping that poor girl captive for that long
Right
She deserves jail
Right, I was like ..uhm who is WE?
I was hoping she would treat Colleen as an ally.
Completely agree.
“Is that my instinct/inner voice or is that my anxiety?” Me all the time as a 26 year old. 😂
Same. But I'm 40. Soooo, nope it don't get any better!
Same 29 and I'm like inner voice or anxiety don't know
Same at 34
Can relate. I think it’s one of the biggest things we need to learn how to interpret.
As soon as you said ‘Company’ it reminded me of a Criminal Minds episode. Scary what the mind can do for survival.
Bailey there’s a case in thermopolis Wyoming where a police officer broke into a home a killed my step dad with no warrant or any reason to actually enter the house. There’s a lot to this story that I’d be willing to give information about. This is a long shot but I need to raise awareness to this situation.
Colleen is a very strong woman! That is such a terrifying form of torture I can not let my brain go there. I hope this monster NEVER GETS OUT!
Same
He gets out in less than a year unfortunately 😣 hope someone tortures him the second he gets out. Little taste of his own medicine ..
Yeah, can you imagine having your head stuck in the old box, similar to middle ages when people were executed. .
These kidnappers are sick in the head.
Honestly I feel like Janice only got tired of getting cheated on so she turned him in thats the only reason she even did anything
this!!!
I AGREE
Agree
I think there's alot of factors, but yes....essentially this is were i land too
Exactly!
Bailey always leaves me with a full understanding of the victims the lives prior, and if they survived you know the victims just as well as you know the perpetrator.
“Give me a shovel, I’ll figure it out” SAME
My dad hitchhiked in the 70's. One time he was driving pickup a female hitchhiker and she just started talking about every detail of her life. My dad warned her and scared her about what could happen to her. She didn't know if he was a psychopath. I hope my dad's warning worked.
Men need to be safe, they can't just go hoping Into a woman's car
He could’ve just warned her, instead of trying to scare her.
Seems unnecessary.
The truth is that men are not safe hitchhiking either. I know there is this myth of the fragile female, and the infallible man, but men are not bulletproof or knife proof.
I’m a woman who hitchhiked all over Ireland… (Not all over the US). I was aware there was a risk. And, although I wouldn’t recommend it to a daughter, I’m glad I took it. I don’t wanna live in fear because I’m female. I’ve fought my way out of situations before. We don’t have the same upper-body strength as many men, but a lot of our extreme weakness is psychological. We are told we are weak and we believe it. We don’t learn how to defend ourselves.
@@Saffron-sugar he handled it how he handled it. It was the 70’s he was young. You don’t know that interaction could have saved her life. But, yeah let’s judge someone’s efforts to try to help someone be more cautious if they were going to be hitchhiking.
Remember walking back to my grandma's when I was 14 or so, not really realizing she lived in a bad neighborhood & I was dressed for the heat with no shoes or anything, and inwas very attractive then. A nice guy stopped and gave me a ride (I had no real world experience), and he gave me a lecture about who knows what coukd have happened to me and only prostitutes walked like that there. It stuck with me to this day, and I am wary of my surroundings and strangers (but not paranoid) because of it. Props to your dad.
@@katherinebattle3780 🥱
I definitely forgot they even had the 1st kid until you mentioned she was pregnant again. Like this kid had to see this happening too? So messed up
Yeah, and it went through my head that Colleen was babysitting these kids and then he put her back in the box for years. It made me wonder what the kids thought when she reappeared years later. Like, oh, you look familiar. Don't I know you?
I keep wondering how those kids turned out! I hope they’re ok, like I hope for everyone in this story (except Carmen, he deserved 120 years with a wooden box over his head)… but yeah, I can’t believe how this impacted those kids especially as they grew into adults.
@@trudybuchanan6490 they probably saw her go to the bathroom occasionally.
@@LK-qk8fmI get the cameron disdain but Janice ?! I feel conflicted with well wishes for her tbh
They told the kids that Colleen went back home. Remember, she was in the box 23 hours of the day. The 1 hour was at night when the kids were sleeping.
The giggling followed by "I'm sick" about watching more disturbing shows, even after talking about this sick and twisted story. I felt that, deep in my soul.
Im glad Colleen is better now with her family after everything she went thru!
The ONLY reason Janice separated herself from Cameron and went ti the police was because of deep jealousy that he wanted to be with other women. It may have started out with Stockholm but definitely grew out of that. She should absolutely not be allowed to be a social worker. Crazy.
Yup. It is absolutely *insane* she is just as guilty as that pos Cameron.
I agree. That's terrifying to think about, honestly.
i don't doubt she has grown since then, and we'll never know what her intentions were and you could be right, but it is risky to have her in social work. she could be amazing at it, but it's definitely at least a questionable decision to hire her
She shouldnt be anywhere near children. Im pretty sure the worst people gravitate towards these positions and the ones who end up in them are too expensive or too hard to find.
As a parent, I can't understand how the family didn't notice she was malnourished and abused. Or let her leave again. I'd be trailing their car and staking out the house. No way my daughter would disappear with a guy, and I not know where she is. After hearing nothing for 2 years then she shows up with her boyfriend, who doesn't stay, and then disappears again. NOPE!
I feel like Janice was a victim , but she got jealous that she wasn't getting all of the attention anymore.
I would do the same!!
based on the picture that her family took when she visited the first time with Cameron, she looks actually fine like seemingly normal, maybe that's why
Idk man I wouldn’t shift the blame to the family. Their relief and knowing the channels of communication are fragile must’ve been making it hard to take that route
Agreed.. I would be like. No way. My daughter is staying home.
They were trying to keep a line of connection open since they had no clue what exactly was going on… also she was an adult what they going to do force her to stay? She was scared $hitless it would have made the situation 100x worser for Colleen. The family did hood by not causing a panos it caused Cameron to let his guard down eventually.
Anyone else remember the episode of Criminal Minds where Chad Coleman convinces Morgan’s cousin The Company exists?
out of ALL of the stories ive seen you present.. this one gave me MAJOR goosebumps.. i wouldnt have lasted one day
The thing that really disturbs me is Janice became-wait for it-a California social worker. I just….no, Cali, no!
get that ... but she knows what to look out for with power imbalances in situations
Why is that bad?
I'm sorry... SHE'S A WHAT!?
@@MellowJelly She was involved in the kidnapping and torture of two women, and death of one. What do you mean???
@@as4824 Sorry but if you were involved in this I would never trust you as a social worker for me or anyone in my family.
He’s not that old. Still capable of things. He shouldn’t be let out
he was released on parole to the department of state hospitals in 2021. still hasn’t been released if he was labeled as a sexually violent pred or not
seriously
As a victim of abuse. it doesn't surprise me at all that she kept in contact with them. You're psychology, chemically, changed as a person - even if they're an abuser, the sense of loss and confusion you feel when either thinking of leaving or leaving is very palpable. They ingrain themselves to the point that you're compelled to stay in contact; you feel guilty if you don't. The guilt involved in that is often times an unbearable weight, even if it isn't logical.
I feel bad for Janice and her children, what happened to them is terrible and they did not deserve it. i hope they are living happy and healthy lives ❤.