E-flite Vs Freewing F-18 Showdown Who Makes The Best F-18
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- Опубліковано 12 лип 2020
- We have been asked for this video, so now we will deliver. E-Flite VS Freewing F-18 showdown has arrived. Its time to see which one the Boozer likes more. Will he like the E-Flite with the scale landing gear and the 80mm EDF? Or, will he like the Freewing with the ability to run on grass and the 90mm EDF? Well, here is your chance to see!!!
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Great job Wes. Both F-18's look great and I'm sure they fly great to. While flying the FreeWing version you sounded like a kid with his dad's coffee cup😳! They both cost about the same. For myself, it comes down to this one thing. The cost of, any and all, replacement parts. Sooner or later you'll need a part. You could do a comparison on that as well. At any rate......FreeWing, hands down and all the way. AirHammer out!!
That's a good point. The cost and availability of replacement parts is definitely something to consider when choosing a model.
@@mickmuzzmkmz1628 +1; the E-flite spares are VERY EXPENSIVE. But the real problem with E-flite/FMS is the retracts pricing and marketing. You cannot buy just a left or right retract or a left or right strut with wheels. FMS/E-flite only sell them in pairs. I've been told you can get the pair and have a spare, but that's not the case. Only lefts or rights can be used for their respective sides. The left and right side parts are not interchangeable. So you have to buy a pair, AND they are much more expensive. E-flite/FMS gets you twice - you must buy 2, even if you only need one, and their prices are much higher than Freewing's.
@@hifinsword Thanks for the insight. I guess that you'd have a spare in the case you were fortunate enough to break the other side wheel or strut!😄
It does seem a bit ridiculous that you can't just buy the side you need though.
I ended up with an FMS 70mm F18F V2. I like the navy version f18E/F which has a larger leading edge area. And the 70mm is also convenient for transport. 2 days into that plane, I had 8 flights. Sweet flyer. The downside is the FMS Aysmitrical flap deployments. Need a little F2A mix to correct that. The plane flies dead straight out of the box. I didn't have to put a single click of trim. For those of you who want a smaller F18 out there.
Other things I did to the FMS F18F:
1 added another pilot, give both some helmet art.
2 replaced main gear spring to SP 9600 Extension Spring with 0.35-Inch Diameter, 1/4-Inch x 1-1/2-Inch
3 replaced all tires with Dave Brown softer tires. 2"x19mm for mains, 1.5"x13mm for the nose.
4 added AR636B SAFE receiver.
5 use a Hobbystar 4200mah 6S lipo.
6 added Assan AG61 Steering Gyro. (8 flights in, I only rolled over slightly with full rudder deflection on a landing once)
@@enzok6414 F2A ??? Do you mean Flaps to elevator mix ? Could you give more details about this please. Because I am going to get this FMS 70mm F18F.... and follow your modifications. Thanks.
Love these reviews because I'm always looking between the 2. Just got the Freewing base gray this week, plan on weathering it like you did as well. Thanks for the great info and flying!
Thanks for the duo flight experience. I already have the E-Flight F-18 and just got the FW 90mm Blue Angels F-18C yet to be assembled. Love the sound of the E-Flight better and painted scale gear and will check out the FW when ready. I'll definitely paint the gear, wheel wells and inlets. Nice flight on both jets.👍👍😎
WOW!!! LOL, that's cool that you're so impressed as I would am! Great comparison and flights, landings and video! Two thumbs up! Best regards to all!
I just maidened my E-Flite F18 yesterday. It's my 2nd EDF, with the E-Flite A10 being the first. Great video and thanks for sharing!
I'll do the hard choice for you. Freewing won, more power, unlimited vertical, heavy duty/rugged landing gear, more agility and smoother Flight all around. It appeared to be a slight lead over the E-FLITE but like you said, its not to be dismissed by any means!! Good review!
Freewing all the way.
I like your YT icon. I'm seeing a little Star Trek in it.
@@airhammer6203 absolutely! I loved Star trek, that what got me interested in aviation.
Wes, if im not mistaken, McDonnel Douglas makes absolutely the best F-18. 🤪
Lol this is true I just had a hard time getting one to review 😂
Good job Wes! You need an “I Mean” meter too lol
Great video, Boozers! These EDF jets are really impressive and this video makes me all the more indecisive on my next one to purchase. You guys are great and I appreciate all of the hard work you do for this awesome hobby.
Awesome flight and video of both. Thanks for the comparison. Skip
very useful video for me. I have decided to get the Freewing. In 2024 now this is probably more upgraded than what is in this video. Grass ops is my only choice. so thanks again.
Just bought the Eflite F-18 ;)
Great video Boozers!!! I’d all ready bought a FMS F-18 before Freewing came out with there’s. Would be hard to decide 👍🏻✌🏻🖖🏻
Great showdown review Boozer crew 👍🏼
Former Red Devils pilot. Amazing job on the livery. I also purchase the hornet off of free wing but can figure out how to bind using a spectrum receiver
Can’t figure out. My bad.
Nice flying buddy
Great job on the flights by the way
I am soooooooooooooooooo excited of this showdown😃
Great comparison. Typically when it comes down to EDF jets, my personal choice is to go with a single larger fan instead of the twin smaller fans. It is much more efficient and less headache (fewer maintenance and lack of dual fan harmonics).
Both of these models are single fan, Freewing is a 90mm, E-Flite is an 80mm.
Like 111...wife’s lucky number lol, great breakdown and video of these two beautiful jets Wesley , either one would be a great asset to any hanger, or just have both lol, great job Boozers 👊🏼👊🏼👍🏼👍🏼💥🔥
Great Job! I'm getting the Eflite.
wow meter - great idea
Definitely great handling F-18's, just a small question. I picked up a similar F-18 model from another person, slightly smaller and not much known about manufacturer, where do you find the cg is best suited for good handling? Just want to see this have a smooth takeoff.
Thank you so much for the information Wes. I am fixing to get my 1st jet, which isn’t the F18, since it’s not a good starter. But it will probably be my 3rd jet. I am a member of a private flying club which has a grass field. Your statement that the Freewing F18 handles grass much better than the Eflite F18 is definitely crucial for me Thanks.
Definitely consider an avanti as your first I think you will love it. Or if you want a scale plane go T-33 both are great first jets
The Freewing 80mm T33 will be my 1st. My 2nd is going to be the Eflite 80mm F4 Phantom. I have been in this hobby for almost two years. Ever since I started flying with the Eflite Timber I have enjoyed flying. I currently have the Eflite 1.2m T28, V1200, and 1.5m P51. I am so excited to get into jets.
Nice showdown. Freewing taking off Grass was a winner for me. 👍🏻
I have the eflite, so I'm bias, but of what I saw on the video the speed on the FW is what you liked most. The detail on the eflite for me was the desition. Maybe in the future I'll upgrade the engine.
Exactly I really like them both it’s not like one is bad it’s more of I prefer one over the other but you will more than likely be happy with ether plane
Both are nice! the E-Flite would've been a knock out the park if it was larger ( more stability )
🤣bug in my ear ....great video thanks !
I’m SOOOOO Excited
Great job mr. Wes.... super nice jets
Please keep doing vs. thank you
The freewing I should buy for my clubs field!
I thought your review was a very good review. One of the more honest reviews out there on jets. If I were a new jet jock, this would be a great review of both F-18 aircraft and answers to questions I want to ask before purchasing a jet. Very informative and educational. Now, I'm not trying to bust your balls BUT, If your going to give a fair review to the best of your ability, (both planes should have standard equipment out of the box, no upgrades). What I mean is, I'm a new jet jock and I'm looking for advice on these 2 different jets. The Freewing has the "upgraded higher performance" enging not the "standard motor" which will give better performance, faster speeds and better for taking off in grass. As a jet jock, Do I need to purchase the upgrade enging or keep the standard engine if flying off grass? Eflite has a "standard size motor" with no upgrades, which you said is an issue when taking off grass. Can I get upgrades for the Eflite from factory? You should show both taking off grass. The price you said was around $30.00 more for the Freewing. Does this $30.00 include the upgraded higher performance motor? What is the price with the standard / upgrade motor?
Things I like (AWSOME) on the review vs the things i don't (NOT SO AWSOME):
(AWSOME) Landing gear looks more scale on the Eflite vs Freewing but, Freewing is better on grass and you give a great reason why. (AWSOME) as a person who might purchase a F-18 that flies off grass this is a big positive point on the Freewing. But, (not AWSOME) no video on grass taking off video to show the differences. (AWSOME) Freewing has no (standard) gyro but flyes great and very stable, Eflite has a standard gyro for stability. A great plus as a positive (mental thing) for new jet jocks. My theory on gyros is, if a rc plane needs a gyro to fly then (IF) the gyro goes out during flight, how unstable will the airplane be now. (AWSOME) Adding that your opinion of the elevator having 100% throw for taking off grass is a GREAT information especially for new jet guys but, ( not so awsome ) again no video. (AWSOME) video of the Freewing vs Eflite undercarrage when explaining the differences of price, 90mm vs 80mm motor power for speed, the look of how the gear retracted look, and your summery of difference in runway and why. (awsome). You said that it Freewing had no gyro and doesn't come with a gyro but, you implied that possibilly, a gyro could or needs to be installed? um ok? How was the Freewing flight like with a gyro? As a new jet guy, should I add a gyro which will cost more? I thought your review was great but, it did have minor issues. Last but not least, they both are great planes and produce a great experience for jet guys. I did like the lady saying we need to add the number of WOW's that was said. I thought it was funny. The bug in your ear was funny as well because we all have been there, Where is the bug in your ear number like the WOW number in the video? The more extream WOW should have added more than only 1 WOW. The review was a more personal, real review with funny clips as well. Thats is what we jet jocks like, none of this (the plane is great) and the guy is just saying that because he is getting planes for free as well as to sell planes for the manufacture. Those are FAKE reviews. I think I would give this a rating of 100% AWSOME because of your REAL review with funny clips. I would have enjoied videos of the planes on grass. Please don't let this discurage you in any way making more videos. Your doing a great job and I do appreciate the positive effort for me and other rc flyers. This is just my opinion and opinions are like butt holes. We all have them and they all smell funny.
Wow what a comment! 🤩 wow haha. Where to start on this answer I guess we will start with the upgrade motor the Freewing can be purchased with this motor already installed. As far as Gyros go there good in any airplane but not necessarily a needed item. I myself prefer no gyro but I can see that newer pilots love them. On fairness of review these planes were purchased with my money and not provided for this review so yes I’m honest with all of my reviews 😉
@@MerryBoozerRCI hope my commits weren't taken in a derogatory way. If so I apologize. Sometimes I can sound very harsh or cut and dry but, I don't mean to, On the contrary, I do believe you are honest person and i think you gave a true evaluation between the two airplanes. You did a great review and I very much support your review and your positive efforts helping out other rc pilots with the 2 F-18's. Other people, that are sponcers of manufactures, would not attempt a product vs product review due to the backlash from their sponcers or other rc pilots like me. So KUDOS to you for that. I wish other people were so bold. There would be less BS products out there on the market or should we say, there would be BETTER quality products out their on the market not just enouph for us just off the ground. I loved the humor, the education, the insite that you gave about the products, these are very helpful for a newbe jet jock not understanding what questions he or she might not think of asking. AWSOME, They both are very good airplanes. I guess I wanted or expected to see the airplanes taking off grass vs asphalt, My relation to the review, Myself, I remember buying a Freewing 80mm A-4 that worked great off asphalt but would not even get off of the grass. $400.00 down the tubes. I had to join another club just to fly my jet, that sucked. Even thou the primous was plane vs plane, what realy happened is each plane was shown apart from one another showing how they individually worked. I like the fact that I could get a Freewing F-18 with the upgraded motor factory installed and I could take off in grass. Also, the Freewing undercarage looked complete due to the fact that the wheels didn't show like on Eflite. The gyro thing, it's Ford vs Chevy, thing. It"s just another thing that could go wrong. example: a friend of mine (manufacture sponser) put $2000.00 in gyro's, redundence servos systems, extra sensors and installed a bunch of other crap he didn't need and due to his gyro not being programmed to all the redundence servos and other products, his plane during a review he was filming for a manufacture, it crashed and totalled his P-51 Mustang. Again, your review was Awsome with these two different F-18's. If I were going to purchase an F-18, because of your review, My choice would be a Freewing with the upgraded motor. I fly off grass and I need the xtra power and ruggedness of the gear. If I were looking at Scale and i had a asphalt runway it might be the Eflite. Your review was very intuative for me. I really liked it. Keep up the reviews. Remember, my opinion is one of many butt holes that smell bad. HA! HA! Please keep up the good work.
WOW!
Would you fly the Eflite Viper in winds at 9 mph gusting to 20 mph? I’m very curious in what are your benchmarks in determining whether or not a jet can be flown. What kind of plane would you fly in those conditions? Thanks 😊
Truth Still Matters (From the Heart of a Catholic) yes I can fly in that tips of weather but it all comes down to your comfort. On windy days like that I love flying my timber instead of jets but you always can fly what your comfortable with
Hey Wes, new watcher and subscriber. Just a quick question, would there be any way you could make a freewing 70mm vs 90mm F16? I can’t decide which one to get. I know obviously there will be a difference in speed, however I’m wondering if there’ll be a difference in characteristics between the two with landing, aerobatics etc
Wicked Moto if you want my honest opinion get the 70mm it will probably end up being your favorite jet of all time. Unfortunately I no longer have a 90mm F-16 it’s a great flyer but I pick the 70 every time I go out to fly.
Wicked Moto heck for the price of the 90mm F-16 get both the E-flite 70 F-16 and the Freewing 70mm F-16
Merry Boozer RC Ok and since the L39 is my first EDF and I have 4 successful flights and landings with it, what would be the road map for a newer pilot to graduate to the 70mm F16 then? My true dream bird right now, besides the turbine I bought (to be flown in a few years with more experience), is the HSD 105mm f16. So I figured starting with a smaller one would be more beneficial then just going for the 105mm out the door
Wicked Moto if you are flying the L-39 comfortably the E-Flite F-16 would be my next suggested plane for you it’s truly one of my all time favorite planes. Another jet you might want to look at is the FW 90mm venom it’s one of the best all around flying jets out there and gets great flight times
Merry Boozer RC any reason why you’d suggest the eflite 70 vs the freewing 70? I’ve become a FW fan boy so to say, after the L39 lol, yea I saw the 90mm venom and that’s definitely on my list as well. I would just like to keep challenging myself. Only thing is I’d have to get a PNP if I were to go eflite since I fly futaba
The SAFE and AS3X is really helpful when ya need it. Can save the $500 jet
I wish Eflight had the 90mm.
Install a spektrum RX in the freewing then. I have AR631 in all my planes for the safe and as3x
Do you remember what your freewing jet elevator and flap mix is?
Seems like freewing was your fave. You kept saying of the eflite that it wasn't a slouch either, it's still good.. etc. The language pointed to you preferring the Freewing.
Can’t give an honest answer and not piss off horizon. Just watch the wow meter.
I think I'd have to give it to the Eflite, Sounds better, Cheaper by 30 bucks, plus you need a receiver for the Freewing. I am a scale guy so the gear is great. But great Comparison. And now that it comes in Blue Angels Livery, I'm sold.
You get a 90mm for an extra $30. So.....
Twin seat F-18's look better imo, so the E-flight has that going for it along with the better looking landing gear. But if I were buying one (which I actually might) it'd be the freewing, it just looks to do everything better.
What make you say the eflite is for experienced pilots while the freewing is simpler? I purchased the eflite one and wondering any tips?
Can you do a comparison between the FMS A-10 vs the Freewing A-10?
Love to if I had them both 😉
Merry Boozer RC I’ve been torn between the two for months now. Here in Atlanta there is virtually nowhere to fly so I’ll be flying from one of the few rough grass areas we have left.
I could even hear the sonic booms on the Freewing
Wow! 😁
The RC Air Marshall wow 🤩
It’s a good video, but if you are in the industry you know it’s actually Freewing vs FMS….
Ever since I saw the eflite version something seems off to me with it. I think it's the geometry of the wings. Looks more like a Super Hornet wing to me instead of a F-18B or D. The freewing looks much better to me
have you looked at the freewing F7F vs the efilet version?
All I can say is " WOW" ! All I can say is the freewing got more wow's from you sooo ..now we know !
I have and love both, but the scale gear on the FMS/E-flite looks much better than the non scale Freewing. It'd also be fair to fly the 80mm woth the 2100kv Platinum inrunner to compare inrunner to inrunner as that's FMS's "High Performance" unit.
Well, not really. This is comparing the Eflite version, not the FMS. We can't even get the FMS version in the states and HH doesn't even sell the 2100kv EDF. So, if you are just doing business with HH, you can't get the better EDF since they went with the cheaper option. Not like the 2000kv isn't an inrunner after all.
Also the FW comes with the HP motor stock now 😉
@@jamesonclark167 Like I said, High Performance to High Performance would be the 80mm with the 2100kv unit, a simple order for anyone to get. The 2000kv unit is a dog.
Would it be possible to see a comparison between the 64mm e-flite A-10, and the 64mm freewing A-10?
Maybe in the future I don’t have the e-flite currently
Love the scale eflight but the grass capable freewing does it for me.
P.S. I see since I posted yesterday, HH has put their $45 retracts on the F-18 web page now for $20 each, left or right. Things are changing. Thanks HH. Maybe a price drop on the fuselage, wing, etc. are coming?
The E-flite spares are VERY EXPENSIVE. But the real problem with E-flite/FMS is the retracts pricing and marketing. A FW retract cost $14.99. You cannot buy just an E-flite/FMS left or right retract or an E-flite/FMS left or right strut with wheels. FMS/E-flite only sell them in pairs. Their advertised spare retracts are $82.50 for the pair! E-flite/FMS gets you twice - you must buy 2, even if you only need one. That's a huge difference from $14.99 to $82.50. Fuselage, $80 for the FW, $110 for the E-flite.
The eflite f18 also comes with optional ordanence unlike the freewing
Well according to the number of WOWs the Freewing won hands down!
How do get them in lockdowm
Put an 80mm in my Blue Angel version. Still fast👍
Sounds like it was a clear win for the free wing, "WOW" if you know what I mean
I still really enjoy the e flight model and if you have a good hard runway it’s a blast. But the freewing with the new HP motor is a absolute beast.
E-Flite landing gears are really cute. Unfortunately the wheels remain half exposed when doors are closed. Too bad
Ive owned both.freewing is better in my opinion eflite feels too heavy but it’s still a nice plane
Wich one did you get or wich one do you prefer
I watched all the way to the end I say the eflite has more of that real turbine noise the freewing sounded quieter
Eflite had way more motor whine.
You mentioned the price difference was $30, but then later said the Freewing has an upgraded outrunner. So who upgraded it? and is the $30 with that upgrade? How is the Freewing without the upgraded motor do you know? Just wondering if we are comparing apples to apples or not. Nice video BTW, and thanks for comparing.
The blue angels freewing comes with the upgraded motor installed where as my gray version comes with the standard motor. I ordered the new version motor and added it in the plane. There is a link in the description of this video for gray non upgraded and blue angels upgraded 😉
I have a smaller F18 I did a 4s and EDF upgrade to it and I must have 60 flights on it. Its hanging on my wall somewhat in one piece....lol
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More planes!!! Merica!!! Ordered the goblin and V900😉 as soon as the Havok is back in stock we’ll put two and two together 😍
Can you explain more why or how the FW is for intermediate pilot and the E-Flite is for advanced? I have the E-Flite still in the box not confident to fly it yet, mostly because I need more EDF time on my Bae Hawk.
I’d like to know too.
@@memcrew1 it flies harder if you will compared to the FW
@@gavstreet8976 Do you mean it’s harder to fly compared to FW?
@@memcrew1 yes
@@memcrew1 it flies heavier compared to the FW
I wanted this video soooo bad
Watch it start to finish 5 times now lol 😝
Merry Boozer RC ok 😂
E-Flite EDF Jets are made by FreeWing which are of a lower end product from the major FreeWing line. :>)
Definitely not completely separate factory’s and company
I have seen e flite vs freewing jets, e flite is generally better quality in terms of finish, but freewing is better because they have a wider range of jets, and thrust vectoring
What size of battery were you’ve using in each plane? Didn’t notice you mention it. Thanks
Roaring Top 5000
Merry Boozer RC great. Thanks Wesley. Great review. Love the FW version, but the E-Flite is now significantly less expensive to get up here in Canada.
Merry Boozer RC you folks have some pull with Motion RC...maybe you can convince them to set up a warehouse or distributor north of the border 😉
Just watching you fly them my opinion there is no comparison the free wings the best
Freewing sounds much better. All E-Flite edf's sound like whistling vacuums.
put a spectrum safe in the freewing way better and higher quality and faster and you can take it on the grass field
I like the Freewing better!
Is that was flown Freewing F-18 inrunner motor version?
Yes the HP
Read almost all the posts here. This debate will continue on that's for sure.
where do you fly ?
Model cost is similar, but what about batteries? Isn't the e-flite smaller with a smaller power system?
noControl yes and no they both fly on the same 5000 6s batteries and the flight times are so similar I didn’t feel like that should be a divider on these models
@@MerryBoozerRC Gotcha thanks, I was thinking the eflite used smaller batteries like the viper
noControl technically both can use smaller packs also The FW is sold in an ARF with a different hatch that you can install an 80 mm fan with if you want longer flight times but less speed
Motion RC is better on this one. Those landing gears look like a nightmare on the Eflite
Where did you get the f-18 with the blue tails?
Painted it myself 😉
Freewing gets ten wows out of ten. E flite gets one wow out of ten. A victor has been decided.
Nggarai pingin
All I buy is FREEWING
Where is this beautiful airstrip located?
larksrcclub.com/
Freewing!!!!!!
Can I ask a dumb question? The 80mm is reference to size of the model correct?
The size of the electric motor in the airplane. The diameter of the fan blades
@@MerryBoozerRC ok so difference between 80mm and 90mm is the fan blade. Ok
@@MerryBoozerRC ok so difference between 80mm and 90mm is the fan blade. Ok
@@MerryBoozerRC ok so difference between 80mm and 90mm is the fan blade. Ok
@@kevinmclemore1476 yep and normally you need to look at the wingspan to see how big they are
I love uuu
Thanks but I’m taken 😉
The main wheels sticking out in the eflite looks awful. I went Freewing with new 1835kv inrunner 12b and it’s a rocket.
Thats what the real one looks like.
@@daleyoung87 No, it's not.
What is gyro?
It stabilizes the airplane and makes it feel smooth… there is also safe mode it’s auto leveling but we don’t really use that function
Can someone please tell me how far is the flight range of both aircraft
That depends on your receiver not the plane but most good receiver are good for around 5 miles that being said you can’t get to far away as the plane becomes a dot after about a mile
@@MerryBoozerRC so how far can your receiver do?
@@brylleee9519 further than you can see these are line of sight models if your out of the receivers range you can’t see the airplane anymore
@@MerryBoozerRC can we use a live FPV on it?
@@brylleee9519 you can but it’s against the law to fly out of line of sight..... so I’d still say 1 mile
$30 less and you get an as3x reciver smart money goes e flight
I don’t care for speed I will choose the e flight for scale
MODEL AIRCRAFT all good I like them both and I agree the landing gear are so sexy on the E-Flite
How do you live chat ??
Brian Scutt when the video premiered you can chat allong
@@MerryBoozerRC I just got a new phone , I always chat with all your live streams. I figured it out ,lol . See you Sunday 😁
Looking for a 3D CAD Designer to work as a free volunteer (no money!) to draw an aircraft structure, a warbird. Thanks again !
I thought this was a vid to show which is the best between the two planes 🤔 as soon as you said this is the upgraded version you lost me! I wanna know what's the best plane to fly out of the box, not with a stuff load of upgrades on it, i can do that to my own liking. Im outa here! Kunce!!
So many flying fields by gun ranges.
Yep
Nice of you to give Michael J. Fox a gig these days but, I'm not sure camera man and Parkinson's go hand in hand. Good video concept though and good content.
Like I said marketing
gyro that for learners
Sounds like your still a learner from that comment 🤷
The only thing I don't like is paying a 140 bucks for 3 or 4 minutes of flight, not me...
I don’t get doing it for $140 but that’s ok these ar now around $500