A good local boy made bad, I live about twenty minutes from Lewes, where he was a customs officer. I'm also a member of The White Hart Debating Society, where he was also a member. My dad turned me on to him. I've all his writing stores in the device I'm writing this on. I'm about halfway through Rights of Man, again.
Ohhh yesss 😮😮😢😢 they got the cops under their foot and they were able to prevent Justice for women that were getting raped.. they've corrupted everybody around them even the police stations
@@stephaniespc yes SPtv . Space has all the protesters live streams… now if only the FBI and DOJ would read the testimony and reports and shut the child trafficking and elder abuse down! And the IRS could investigate all the front groups like Allied Scholastics
@tr7938 "Cult" comes from "cultus" meaning "worship". But "cult" has taken on a more sinister meaning in the modern era with New Religious Movements since the 19th century Great Awakening.
Sure, if you are a Marxist/Leninist bent on eventually slaughtering hundreds of millions of them once they get power again like back in 1917…. People like your are simply “useful idiots” as Stalin once called all those who were worshiping his cult of personality… Excerpt from 1984 interview of KGB Defector on ‘equality & social justice’ long before it became a popular phrase you have been brainwashed to accept as some sort of perfect society: Griffin (9:37): And yet these people have been programmed, and as you say, in place, who are favorable to an opening to the Soviet concept. These are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country? Bezmonev (9:48): Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock when they will see in future what the beautiful society of equality and social justice means in practice, obviously they will revolt. They will be very unhappy frustrated people. And the Marxist Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. Obviously they will join the likes of dissenters, dissidents. Unlike in present United States there will be no place for dissent in future Marxist Leninist America. Here you can get popular like Daniel Ellsberg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being dissident for criticizing your Pentagon. In future these people will be simply “pffft.” Squashed like cockroaches. Nobody’s going to pay them nothing for their beautiful noble ideas about equality. This they don’t understand and it will be greatest shock for them of course.
In the modern era cult=control. If they enter undue influence over their members it is considered a cult. It could be a mainstream religious denomination, a fringe religious movement, a corporation or multi level marketing campaign, a political movement, a self help group, or any situation where undue influence is exerted over other people. Don’t assume that just because they worship Jesus and preach from the Bible that it’s not a cult. Jim Jones preached from the Bible about Jesus and look what happened to his followers at Jonestown.
@@Nola50 , Thank you, I was able to get past it..but there are so many who can't. I refuse to stay stuck in those memories. I've helped many get away from sex traffickers over the years. Our country has put up with this to long.
@@lsingstock1646 you must be under the age of 40. Times were not transparent then. We didn't have internet, or counseling, or even supportive parents. Small towns swept it under the rug and you were not to speak of it. But justice always comes, might be awhile, but it comes.
I was beaten, denigrated and brain-washed by the Seventh Day Adventist school in Little Rock by Ruby Miles Lance, my 1st through 4th grade teacher. Nobody even told me they were sorry for what I endured by that monster. Churches are rife with abuse by sadistic leaders and teachers. It nearly ruined my life, and it is still painful to remember.
Secual abuse takes place in many homes. I have been in five churches in my life. All good, godly pastors. Not one case of abuse. Most of the accusers here are athiests.
You 🫵 are strong, these monsters that teach about a magical God that apparently has no magic without man's involvements are evil 😈Pure Evil. All religious sect inner cores are evil. The Bible says believing in yourself is a sin!! 🤔🤬When I read that at a very young age I realize how Evil the bibles teaching really was. Religion is basically a drug 💊 that is forced down your throat at a very early age. I am glad you made it out of that abuse world. Your experience is a collection of many of ours. Keep believing in yourself 🫡
Huge investigation of the LDS, well the FLDS. The children were taken and Warren Jeff's was sent to prison. Unfortunately the children had to be sent back to their mothers and another is now in his place.
Didn't expect to hear about this group again today. I ran into them while at college at Mankato, MN in the early '80s. Totally friendly until I refused to join.
I grew up in the large Baptist church in the upper Midwest. This sounds very familiar to me. Every other religion was the enemy and only that church was going to heaven. Guess why I left lol. Proud to have thrown off those chains.
@@DonFonzarelli-uq9yx the money is already ending up in pockets. You maybe dont know this but government offices have far more transparency to the public than churches or corporations do.
@@rossr6616 lol that’s rich coming from someone who has no problem with drag queen story hour, pride parades, & grade school classrooms shoving sexuality right into very young children’s very maleable minds is perfectly fine according to the same people who are projecting what barely 1000 people are doing in secret onto hundreds of millions of Christians who have absolutely nothing to do with these psychos.
It's so endemic to small religious groups. (Or larger but the smaller ones tend to have more extreme beliefs) It's almost like they go how can we create a belief system that justifies abuse and that's their true goal no matter what they pile on top of it
Everyday people worked to change laws. Now in NY, due to the Adult Survivors Act, victims can report crimes for up to 20 years, I believe. Many victims are unable to speak up for years, if ever. We can take grass roots, civilized, civic action to protect children and others.
@@MP-db9sw any organization that insists its belief must be installed worldwide and that all people from all Races must be brought into that religion and it's your job to do it, that's a cult! seeing is all religions want to do that, they're all cults!
Not only that, they received millions in government contracts during a time they were facing bankruptcy due to abuse pay outs. In NY, the Rochester Diocese received a multi-million dollar contract for handing out covid money to landlords. Right during the time they were going bankrupt. Our NYS comptroller is Catholic.
They recently just arrested a black Florida Catholic priest for child porn. Alot of people in the past from multiple backgrounds were never prosecuted.
Um… shocking…? I guess… This is why it’s called “fundamental”. Because the entire purpose of religion is to empower people (usually men) to indulge their most base desires.
That’s not even remotely true. Organized religion, perhaps; but to say the entire purpose of religion is to empower people to indulge is asinine and ignorant.
Unfortunately, organized religion easily lends itself to all manner of abuse, and twisting of its doctrines to justification of it. Religion should be personal. You don’t have to put your mind and family at hazard to be righteous and faithful.
Some folk prove their faith through costly signaling: tithes, fasts, etc. It's like when an abuser says, "If you really loved me, you would..." whatever the demand is. You do it to satisfy the in-group.
@@garylefeversit’s a cult with a terrible philosophy of life…cruel, abusive, dangerous, no joy, delusions and science fiction. How sad you are stuck there.
Their 'Greater Idaho' movement is especially repulsive. The truth behind it is honestly water rights, though they rarely mention it. Idaho has no right to Oregon's water.
This is why Oregon foster care needs to STOP finding foster parents in churches! No churches should be involved in foster care, ever. Separation of church and state! Foster care is funded through the government and should not be involved with any religion.
I was in 48 foster homes in Weld County Colorado. One foster parent cared about me out of 48! She was Christian. Her name was Betty. She is the best thing to happen to me in foster care!
Well I say it depends on how they approach the children; true Christian’s or anyone else religious should set examples not indoctrinate. Certainly something needs to be done about foster care systems perhaps new models of care where we focus on raising good kids who are prepared for the real world.. a holistic/military type setting so we have balanced adults ready for anything 🙌🙏
@@amandamartin2777 I’m glad one experience was good and she was helpful. I was a FP for 12 years. I saw harm done through different religious beliefs. One of my kids came home crying because a school janitor told him he would go to hell for being Hindi. We honored his culture and beliefs through art, music and food. It was fun for us to learn along with him. No religion is best unless the child seeks it out. I’m so sorry for your negative experiences. There are a lot of bad, uncaring people out there. I hope for change and stay in touch with most of my previous kids. Some I will never know what happened to them. The system is broken and if funded with federal dollars, churches should not be involved. Pharmaceutical relationships should be investigated as well. Be well, stay well, I’m glad you had an angel.
@@pinchebruha405 I’m not opposed to material of religion in a house. Of course foster parents are, in a sense government employees. The job is to provide a safe, calm, healthy environment with all emotional, medical and dental needs met. Government employees aren’t allowed to share their religion, or are they now? Non profits skate on the rules and glean off the system. Who’s the biggest “non profit”. Churches. Just saying.. there’s plenty of proof out there.
NOT SURPRISED. Since my teens I questioned the church asking for money weekly, gold laden walls, the sabbath translation is Saturday not Sunday, & if God is everywhere why must I confess to a mortal??
Tithing because the church is supposed to help with doing God’s work, such as looking out for those less fortunate. The pope ruined the Sabbath. Confessing to a mortal, that’s your choice. Read the word instead of having someone else interpret it for you. Pretty clear from a once through reading that the church has been corrupted absolutely. Just like with any large group of people with a leader, the problems all start at the top. The pope is twacked out and attempting to mislead.
@@sydnidowney3598There were and probably still are, many children that were brought across the border but the people claiming to be their parents, weren’t. The children were simply abandoned after being used as pawns to cross the border.
Yet too many people advocating for drag queens dancing in front of children and allowing men into women’s restrooms turn out to be predators. Why is that?
The media has done long, multi-episode shows about scientology. Movies and multiple stories about the Catholic Church. So many stories about the people's cult that I've lost count. Movies, news reports, and documentaries about the LDS church. Are you saying that this particular group should be excluded from exposure? Whys that?
@@AliciaGuitar why religion should not be involved in the lives of traumatized children. There are far too many religions and each one is too SUBJECTIVE. Recipes for shame and abuse.
ex-JW here and they covered it up for years. They bragged before the internet that they were the only "spiritually clean" organization on earth. All religion is a scam.
"The Way" College was in my hometown. They used to make them run for miles & miles! You couldn't go onto the college grounds, or you would be escorted off by armed members who acted as guards. This was back in the 80's btw. We all knew it was a cult way back then. They ended up closing the college eventually, thank goodness!
I think you're talking about "The Way International". They had a college in Kansas in the 80s. They are also a cult (both in the sense of rejecting mainstream Christian theology and SA coverups).
Join a cult. Give them your money. Leave your kids alone with them. What could go wrong. Better yet, leave the mythology behind. Be your own boss. Grow a brain👍🏻
They could while away the hours, Conferrin' with the flowers, Consulting with the rain; And their head they'd be a-scratchin' While their thoughts were busy hatchin' *If they only had a brain.*
David Berg agrees that what you've stated is the best course of action. Ricky disagreed, along with so many others. May he rest in eternal peace in a place where Berg and his vile egg donor cannot find him.
There are few religious organizations for which some scandal has not been exposed. These organizations, all of them, need to be taxed and reviewed periodically for financial abuse and for abuse of their members.
@@MMG-q1vthat is untrue. There is plenty of space to appreciate messenger/s motivating people to love thy neighbor and not judge. Plenty. It is the man that contorts the message. When Jesus said break a piece of would and there I am and I am is the way the truth and the light. Translation is lost but I KNOW I Am the way the truth and the light and so are you. He preached that light and truth are within the very fabric of being. MAN is so deranged and mentally ill. 30% needs amputated maybe, unfortunately. Human rights will win. This constant hate is not sustainable.
@Eidelmaniatrue followers of Christ Jesus don't behave in these ways. People who call themselves " Christian" don't necessarily make them one. There is a vast difference in following Him and just saying one knows Him. That's the difference. These cults bring much shame to His name.
You mean like they shut down the Catholic Church? Child abuse is what they do, have you heard of fundamentalist church of Latter Day Saints, they are raped gotten pregnant and then bring their children to their leader and he rapes them and the government protects them as they hide under religion
I grew up in a Christian house that belongs to an organization just like this. Nobody is brave enough to speak up to the Bishop and his wife about abuse....
And thus, there are followers that stand up and claim that their cult is clear of abuse, and never happens. Brave survivors that speak out are the true power
Skip all those nasty people who are in ANY way abusing elderly, children, and animals! There's nothing in the Torah or in the NT that oks physical abuse of ANY kind. The only thing I saw that referred to correcting children was, "Spare the rod, and spoil the child." In Proverbs somewhere. Get yourself as far away from the misguided masochists as you can and if you feel you need a church to associate with, check them out first to ensure that they're truly good, Christian folks. If not, keep looking. No cults. No Swinging from Chandelier people, either. It's supposed to be about You and your life-choices, and your #1 choice should be to love yourself. #2 Find a level-headed teacher. #3 Do your best to follow all rules set forth by G-d Almighty. If you do find yourself in a church/cult that hurts anyone, especially children, physically, REPORT THEM TO THE LAW. 😻
@wqv5423ln well, in ALL the church I grew up with the male leader of those churches were called Bishops....still today the members of that church call him Bishop....
"Whosoever believes in me will be saved" out to undermine any argument that one specific church is the only way. So maybe it isn't about saving anyone, but preying upon them, if these allegations are true.
It's too easy to change the original intent of that line, because people back then lived different lives with different mind-sets, before the Industrial Revolution. Jesus of Nazareth isn't saying you have to believe Him to be saved, He's saying you have to believe, and understand, what His definition of eternity is.
That is a biblical ruth obviously getting twisted. Only Jesus Christ can save not a church of people , cult, sect or human in general. Read the Bible yourself, ask the Holy Spirit to guide you through.
@@monarcal8365 Nothing in the Holy Bible talks about ordinary humans saving the souls of others. American televangelists argue whether doing good deeds will get you to heaven or is believing more important. Joel Osteen is one of the worst, saying you can be your own prophet and predict future wealth.
Yup. But they want to say kids learning about the existence of lgbtq people is abuse. (Not sure what this particular church's position, but I assume it's in line with the rest and it's bad) The hypocrisy.
Home school is not fertile ground for abuse. Stop promoting government control!! Some people are just too lazy to teach their kids morals and values beside educate!!
That’s a stupid and Uninformed comment. Patriarchy is Gods Devine order for Families and Government, Jesus is our head Patriarch. And home schooling works very well for lots of families especially where public schools are highly dysfunctional because of liberal Agenda.
We have a church like this in our area. They won’t let their kids marry outside of the church. The elders set up the older men with the younger girls. It’s immoral.
I hope your anger is directed toward the people that perpetrate religion and use it for their evil intent and not God, himself. God does not condone this wicked twisting of his Word in any way, shape or form.
@@donnagelina8548 I have no anger whatsoever directed towards any Middle Eastern mythological characters, but as a female, there seems to be a great deal of misogynistic hate directed towards me from the patriarchal leader of the hierarchy in the fictional heavens.
@@donnagelina8548 Seems like a ridiculously high number of "gods people" are guilty of horrible things, and yet he does nothing about it. Seems like if he wanted people to know that he doesn't approve then he would do something about it, that is if he actually exists.
*If god is all-knowing he knew this would happen. *If god is all-powerful he could have stopped it. *If god is all-loving he would want to stop it. You're saying I shouldn't be mad at the guy who watches this stuff happen and does nothing to stop it? If he actually existed, your god is a monster.
I live in England and was raised in the 2 x 2 . I am so shocked by what l have read. While l am no longer in the 2 x 2 l am so horrified as to what is going on, we were led to believe that they were the people we could truslt. To think of the people that have been hurt so badly, and they knew what hurt they did incur. They should have been excommunicated immediately. I hope that justice will prevail and healing will start to take place.
@@wendybutler1681 schizophrenia is a disease of the brain where hearing voices is the symptom. Perhaps the mentally ill are leading the healthy to their doom through generational trauma and the abused kids grew up, spoke out and changing laws. No religion needs a vast stock portfolio. TAX THE MORMON CORPORATION ALREADY A HARSH "COME TO JESUS" TAXATION TO HUMBLE THOSE GREEDY OLD GROSS PEDOPHILE PROMOTING MEN.
I went to college in the midwest and "The Way" was recruiting people. Most of my friends recognized it as a cult right away. I had a couple friends that went to meetings for a month or so and tried to talk the rest of us into joining, Lucky for them, they dropped out of the cult on their own soon afterwards.
Happy to hear that the DOJ has opened an investigation. There have LITERALLY been full length televised stories about individual victims dating back years, so it is high time investigation and legal action be taken.
Why do you wonder that? Seems like distracting from this horrible thing to speculate on a maybe possibly some other horrible thing that might be happening somewhere that isnt in front of us right this minute is probably a clue that somethings wrong with _you_
@@MP-db9sw So because it isn’t in front of you, we should forget the Muslim women and children? Maybe, just maybe, IT’S YOU! Pakistan alone is the country with the most documented cases of incest and child deformities. This has gone on for centuries in the Middle East, you uninformed fool!
We need to end the statuete of limitation for sexual abuse. A lot of us that were abused in our youth, it takes decades to heal and grow out of that trauma. The statuete should be open, especially if you have a confession, witnesses, or evidence.
I remember that kind of narrow mindedness in Sunday School when I was a kid. Comments like, "It's too bad about the Catholics..." I think 70 years later it isn't as prevalent.
Until 2x2s was mentioned I thought the report was going to be about the JWs. This is the first I’m hearing of this group. There seems an astonishing amount of doctrinal and linguistic similarity.😮
"The way" is mentioned in the bible. Some cults try to use that name to seem more credible. I was raised jehovahs witness. They taught that originally, they were "the way". That made members think the religion went back to bible times, convincing them they were in the true religion. That was my experience anyway
“Church leaders concealed the abuse and silenced the victims?” REALLY? 😂OMG! Just another Tuesday in Religioustan…how is this even news anymore?!? Seriously.
Sounds like another religious organization we all know. But they are open about it but don't speak of it CATHOLICS. Documents from 1567 show it has gone on for hundreds of years.
Who new males deifying themselves as being made in the image of a fictional godlike character to be submitted to and never questioned unless u wanted to suffer the deitys wrath was an extremely dangerous, weaponizable, unnatural model? I mean, who knew?🤨
The timing on this is interesting. Of course, people do these things in every religion, spiritual path, political party, Hollywood, Disney, cults, many families..... but it's interesting how we frame these exposes.... Remember "s a t a n i c. P a n i c?" Remember false memory syndrome? So are we selectively affirming and gaslighting? I pray for peace to the survivors. I pray that people stop mistaking Jesus for the actions of those who proclaim to be His followers.
You're one of the worst cases of TDS I'v seen, please seek mental health. This video has nothing to do about politics, but you some how see politics in it.
@@wqv5423ln Fantastic!! Read it to me, please? I don't know what it is. (wrings hands) Is death involved? A wrathful, omniscient being? Oooo, so excited!
7:54 Well that's a LAME EXCUSE!! WE ALL KNOW that CHILD Sexual Abuse is EVIL, VILE & DERANGED. If you are an ADULT & you KNOW this is going on AND YOU DON'T REPORT IT to the AUTHORITIES YOU ARE AS GUILTY as the PERPETRATOR.
As Thomas Paine said, “A body of men holding themselves accountable to nobody ought not to be trusted by anybody.”
Bbwwaaahahahahaha. Paine is a freaking lucifieran you silly Billy. He ate babies.
What about anarchy though? I know anarchists who turned to that ideology because they want to escape pedophiles
Which is why we do not trust the Robertson Supreme Court.
A good local boy made bad, I live about twenty minutes from Lewes, where he was a customs officer. I'm also a member of The White Hart Debating Society, where he was also a member. My dad turned me on to him. I've all his writing stores in the device I'm writing this on. I'm about halfway through Rights of Man, again.
I still have problems with customs officer and Tom being in the same sentence.
Scientology investigation by the FBI would be great too!
Ohhh yesss 😮😮😢😢 they got the cops under their foot and they were able to prevent Justice for women that were getting raped.. they've corrupted everybody around them even the police stations
@@stephaniespc yes SPtv . Space has all the protesters live streams… now if only the FBI and DOJ would read the testimony and reports and shut the child trafficking and elder abuse down! And the IRS could investigate all the front groups like Allied Scholastics
Allll extreme religions investigated please.
Where is the leader's wife? Was she ever seen again?
@@andypanda4756 where’s all the children they are trafficking and doing audits and purification run downs on
Call it what it is.....A CULT.......
Facts
@tr7938 "Cult" comes from "cultus" meaning "worship". But "cult" has taken on a more sinister meaning in the modern era with New Religious Movements since the 19th century Great Awakening.
Sure, if you are a Marxist/Leninist bent on eventually slaughtering hundreds of millions of them once they get power again like back in 1917…. People like your are simply “useful idiots” as Stalin once called all those who were worshiping his cult of personality…
Excerpt from 1984 interview of KGB Defector on ‘equality & social justice’ long before it became a popular phrase you have been brainwashed to accept as some sort of perfect society:
Griffin (9:37): And yet these people have been programmed, and as you say, in place, who are favorable to an opening to the Soviet concept. These are the very people who would be marked for extermination in this country?
Bezmonev (9:48): Most of them, yes. Simply because the psychological shock when they will see in future what the beautiful society of equality and social justice means in practice, obviously they will revolt. They will be very unhappy frustrated people. And the Marxist Leninist regime does not tolerate these people. Obviously they will join the likes of dissenters, dissidents. Unlike in present United States there will be no place for dissent in future Marxist Leninist America. Here you can get popular like Daniel Ellsberg and filthy rich like Jane Fonda for being dissident for criticizing your Pentagon. In future these people will be simply “pffft.” Squashed like cockroaches. Nobody’s going to pay them nothing for their beautiful noble ideas about equality. This they don’t understand and it will be greatest shock for them of course.
@tr7938 🎯
In the modern era cult=control. If they enter undue influence over their members it is considered a cult. It could be a mainstream religious denomination, a fringe religious movement, a corporation or multi level marketing campaign, a political movement, a self help group, or any situation where undue influence is exerted over other people.
Don’t assume that just because they worship Jesus and preach from the Bible that it’s not a cult. Jim Jones preached from the Bible about Jesus and look what happened to his followers at Jonestown.
I've waited my whole life to see justice. We didn't have a voice in the 70's and 80's.
I'm so sorry
@@Nola50 , Thank you, I was able to get past it..but there are so many who can't. I refuse to stay stuck in those memories. I've helped many get away from sex traffickers over the years. Our country has put up with this to long.
I’m sorry to hear that.
Yes, you did. Every generation deals with it and many other offenses against kids/women/blacks/ LBGT.. you get together and fight for your rights.
@@lsingstock1646 you must be under the age of 40. Times were not transparent then. We didn't have internet, or counseling, or even supportive parents. Small towns swept it under the rug and you were not to speak of it. But justice always comes, might be awhile, but it comes.
I was beaten, denigrated and brain-washed by the Seventh Day Adventist school in Little Rock by Ruby Miles Lance, my 1st through 4th grade teacher.
Nobody even told me they were sorry for what I endured by that monster.
Churches are rife with abuse by sadistic leaders and teachers.
It nearly ruined my life, and it is still painful to remember.
So sorry your faith and well-being was taken from you.
Secual abuse takes place in many homes. I have been in five churches in my life. All good, godly pastors. Not one case of abuse. Most of the accusers here are athiests.
Assembly of God and Pentecost should be looked into.
Thankfully, you had the strength to survive and get out
You 🫵 are strong, these monsters that teach about a magical God that apparently has no magic without man's involvements are evil 😈Pure Evil. All religious sect inner cores are evil. The Bible says believing in yourself is a sin!! 🤔🤬When I read that at a very young age I realize how Evil the bibles teaching really was. Religion is basically a drug 💊 that is forced down your throat at a very early age. I am glad you made it out of that abuse world. Your experience is a collection of many of ours. Keep believing in yourself 🫡
Next they need to do the LDS as well.
you're not wrong.
LDS, Southern Baptist, Catholic. etc. How many Jewish Americans fled to Israel to escape justice for same crimes?
Ban religion. I know the Constitution... yadda-yadda ... but... but... WE ARE RIGHT and it's all about US!
@@shaggybreeks Who is right?
Huge investigation of the LDS, well the FLDS. The children were taken and Warren Jeff's was sent to prison. Unfortunately the children had to be sent back to their mothers and another is now in his place.
This has gone on for eons, because survivors of CSA are silenced.
It's time it stops.
A survivor
Me too
My Boyscout troop leader was sent to federal pen for you know what with kids I went to school with. PARENTS, listen to your children.
@@andypanda4756 absolutely. Respect and empathy for both posters.
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YES!! Silenced for 50 years. I started speaking about it this year.
Didn't expect to hear about this group again today. I ran into them while at college at Mankato, MN in the early '80s. Totally friendly until I refused to join.
Seems to be common to all of them -
I hate that these are run like pyramid schemes instead of free therapy and community service.
I grew up in the large Baptist church in the upper Midwest. This sounds very familiar to me. Every other religion was the enemy and only that church was going to heaven. Guess why I left lol. Proud to have thrown off those chains.
like every abusive family. the same psychology.
But do you have Jesus?
@@ryanehlis426 but, do you have proof? Gonna need a lot with all those child dittlers in His churches.
@@freddyrodriguez4732 thank you. It's the fractal of narcissism.
@@Solscapes. Absolutely. SO much insanity in this world, I ll never understand it. I’m terminally upbeat and logical lol
Make ALL of these “churches” pay taxes!! Send all that money to save the homeless.
Yeah, you know that money would end up in pockets, and not the homeless pockets.
@@DonFonzarelli-uq9yx😢😢😢😢😢
I stopped going to church yrs ago when it's all about pocketing some change. The word of God should be revered but also free@@DonFonzarelli-uq9yx
Its already ending up in pockets. At least the government is required to nake the records public, these churches are not.
@@DonFonzarelli-uq9yx the money is already ending up in pockets. You maybe dont know this but government offices have far more transparency to the public than churches or corporations do.
This is who the religious fundamentalists have always been.
ALL religious denominations are guilty of pedophilic acts, not just the fundamental-leaning ones....
Pervangelicals
@@rossr6616 lol that’s rich coming from someone who has no problem with drag queen story hour, pride parades, & grade school classrooms shoving sexuality right into very young children’s very maleable minds is perfectly fine according to the same people who are projecting what barely 1000 people are doing in secret onto hundreds of millions of Christians who have absolutely nothing to do with these psychos.
yep. nothing new at all
As if it doesn't happen in Hollywood or national sports or government programs. Certainly not exclusive to "religious" cults.
I’m sooo tired of hearing about perpetrators not being held accountable because of “statutes of limitations”! RELIGION PROTECTS PREDATORS. 😡
It is not limited to religion, silence protects predators and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
It's so endemic to small religious groups. (Or larger but the smaller ones tend to have more extreme beliefs) It's almost like they go how can we create a belief system that justifies abuse and that's their true goal no matter what they pile on top of it
religion IS predators
@@catsncrowsYES YES!! OMG THIS IS JUST IT!!
the famed karl marx once said “Religion is the opiate of the masses”
Everyday people worked to change laws. Now in NY, due to the Adult Survivors Act, victims can report crimes for up to 20 years, I believe. Many victims are unable to speak up for years, if ever. We can take grass roots, civilized, civic action to protect children and others.
Christian Conservative Values. How many other religious organizations covered up abuse of children? Are they also cults?
Why would they be any different from any other group of conservative christian pedophiles.
Yep Christian Conservatives want to bring back child marriage. Creeps!
It really pisses me off how Republicans rage about pedophilia but ignored the pedophiles in their own community! Shielding a criminal is also a crime!
Yes, they are all cults.
@@MP-db9sw any organization that insists its belief must be installed worldwide and that all people from all Races must be brought into that religion and it's your job to do it, that's a cult! seeing is all religions want to do that, they're all cults!
Catholic priests never were held accountable for their abuse
@@frozenrogue8970 or Mormon Bishops, for that matter
Absolutely, the Catholic Church Still standing proud and strong in the Vatican.
Quote Ripley in Aliens for me so I don't get banned.
@@amberharrison2954
Not only that, they received millions in government contracts during a time they were facing bankruptcy due to abuse pay outs. In NY, the Rochester Diocese received a multi-million dollar contract for handing out covid money to landlords. Right during the time they were going bankrupt. Our NYS comptroller is Catholic.
They recently just arrested a black Florida Catholic priest for child porn. Alot of people in the past from multiple backgrounds were never prosecuted.
They definitely need to be shutdown
Oneword.
Christians seek this out because it is their fetish. They enjoy the abuse. Otherwise, theyd be stopped.
well you just have to put them all in long prison sentences
Sickening.
How many atrocities have been justified in the name of one god or another?
How many atrocities based on power-tripping greed-heads have used religion to cover their tracks?
Too many to count
Pretty much all the atrocities in history have religious roots.....
@@talltom1129Atheism is by far the leading religion when it comes to murder. See 20th century Socialism/Communism for more info.
@@talltom1129 It's a shallow thing to say, blaming religion when it was insane warriors attacking foreign people for their wealth, and now oil.
🙄And they’ll cry that they’re being persecuted
Um… shocking…? I guess…
This is why it’s called “fundamental”. Because the entire purpose of religion is to empower people (usually men) to indulge their most base desires.
Let's be honest, this isn't shocking. Not in 2024.
That’s not even remotely true. Organized religion, perhaps; but to say the entire purpose of religion is to empower people to indulge is asinine and ignorant.
@@walkingman8943Yes it does. What does being saved mean but pre-forgiven. Go out and sin some more.
@@firstlast-gn5bo"Pre-forgiven" comes from Gnostic/Calvinism WHICH IS NOT CHRISTIAN!
Unfortunately, organized religion easily lends itself to all manner of abuse, and twisting of its doctrines to justification of it. Religion should be personal. You don’t have to put your mind and family at hazard to be righteous and faithful.
Especially when it's only men in charge and women and children are expected to be subordinate to the men.
As a Christian myself, I could not agree more.
Some folk prove their faith through costly signaling: tithes, fasts, etc. It's like when an abuser says, "If you really loved me, you would..." whatever the demand is. You do it to satisfy the in-group.
@@garylefeversit’s a cult with a terrible philosophy of life…cruel, abusive, dangerous, no joy, delusions and science fiction. How sad you are stuck there.
Religion is man made. Spirituality is divine…and yes, personal and private.
Idaho is a hotbed for extremists of all kinds. The state shields them.
Their 'Greater Idaho' movement is especially repulsive. The truth behind it is honestly water rights, though they rarely mention it. Idaho has no right to Oregon's water.
Idaho is a Nazi strong hold
Oh, yes! This is TRUE because I READ IT ON THE INTERNET SO I KNOW ALL ABOUT IT!!!!!!!! This meme trends viral!
@@shaggybreeks it wot my mamma learn me!!
@@shaggybreeks hit dogs holler and all that
This is why Oregon foster care needs to STOP finding foster parents in churches! No churches should be involved in foster care, ever. Separation of church and state! Foster care is funded through the government and should not be involved with any religion.
100% agree.
I was in 48 foster homes in Weld County Colorado. One foster parent cared about me out of 48! She was Christian. Her name was Betty. She is the best thing to happen to me in foster care!
Well I say it depends on how they approach the children; true Christian’s or anyone else religious should set examples not indoctrinate. Certainly something needs to be done about foster care systems perhaps new models of care where we focus on raising good kids who are prepared for the real world.. a holistic/military type setting so we have balanced adults ready for anything 🙌🙏
@@amandamartin2777 I’m glad one experience was good and she was helpful. I was a FP for 12 years. I saw harm done through different religious beliefs. One of my kids came home crying because a school janitor told him he would go to hell for being Hindi. We honored his culture and beliefs through art, music and food. It was fun for us to learn along with him. No religion is best unless the child seeks it out. I’m so sorry for your negative experiences. There are a lot of bad, uncaring people out there. I hope for change and stay in touch with most of my previous kids. Some I will never know what happened to them. The system is broken and if funded with federal dollars, churches should not be involved. Pharmaceutical relationships should be investigated as well. Be well, stay well, I’m glad you had an angel.
@@pinchebruha405 I’m not opposed to material of religion in a house. Of course foster parents are, in a sense government employees. The job is to provide a safe, calm, healthy environment with all emotional, medical and dental needs met. Government employees aren’t allowed to share their religion, or are they now?
Non profits skate on the rules and glean off the system. Who’s the biggest “non profit”. Churches. Just saying.. there’s plenty of proof out there.
NOT SURPRISED. Since my teens I questioned the church asking for money weekly, gold laden walls, the sabbath translation is Saturday not Sunday, & if God is everywhere why must I confess to a mortal??
Tithing because the church is supposed to help with doing God’s work, such as looking out for those less fortunate. The pope ruined the Sabbath. Confessing to a mortal, that’s your choice.
Read the word instead of having someone else interpret it for you. Pretty clear from a once through reading that the church has been corrupted absolutely. Just like with any large group of people with a leader, the problems all start at the top. The pope is twacked out and attempting to mislead.
the sabbath was for jews, not Christians.
Weird how the ones screaming about grooming are the groomers themselves.
So do you also blame every single follower of Islam when members of Islam wage terror and death on innocents???
Every conservative accusation is a confession
Judge not, lest you be judged !
100%
@@BufordDuckworth lie much ?
Missing kids who came over the border should be investigated too!!
Absolutely! There are still children missing that were "border children".
WHERE are all the children who were taken away from their parents when they crossed the border? ASK STEVEN MILLER.
Check Epstein Island 😒
@@sydnidowney3598There were and probably still are, many children that were brought across the border but the people claiming to be their parents, weren’t. The children were simply abandoned after being used as pawns to cross the border.
@@sydnidowney3598Biden has reunited about 600 of the 1200 known cases from the former guy, and is still working on more.
Tragic😢very proud of those that stepped forward to make a difference.
And not even one of them is a drag queen. Imagine that!
Yet too many people advocating for drag queens dancing in front of children and allowing men into women’s restrooms turn out to be predators. Why is that?
No trans people either, wild.
They are a cult. The ones you mentioned are just as demonic or worse. Poisoning our children & mutilating their bodies.
Please spread this information far and wide...
What about all the other cults... Scientology, LDS, JW, Black Hebrew Israelites, etc...
The media has done long, multi-episode shows about scientology. Movies and multiple stories about the Catholic Church. So many stories about the people's cult that I've lost count. Movies, news reports, and documentaries about the LDS church. Are you saying that this particular group should be excluded from exposure? Whys that?
don’t forget catholics, southern baptists, pentecostals, etc
@@AliciaGuitar why religion should not be involved in the lives of traumatized children. There are far too many religions and each one is too SUBJECTIVE. Recipes for shame and abuse.
Looks like the xtians are keeping the police so busy they don’t have time to investigate anyone else’s crimes
ex-JW here and they covered it up for years. They bragged before the internet that they were the only "spiritually clean" organization on earth. All religion is a scam.
"The Way" College was in my hometown. They used to make them run for miles & miles! You couldn't go onto the college grounds, or you would be escorted off by armed members who acted as guards. This was back in the 80's btw. We all knew it was a cult way back then. They ended up closing the college eventually, thank goodness!
They were in central Ky too in early 80s
Definitely a different organization... This "church" has never had a college of any kind.
The way things are going with Christian nationalism, stayed tuned for more!
I think you're talking about "The Way International". They had a college in Kansas in the 80s. They are also a cult (both in the sense of rejecting mainstream Christian theology and SA coverups).
Different organization.
Join a cult. Give them your money. Leave your kids alone with them. What could go wrong. Better yet, leave the mythology behind. Be your own boss. Grow a brain👍🏻
I support this message!
They could while away the hours,
Conferrin' with the flowers,
Consulting with the rain;
And their head they'd be a-scratchin'
While their thoughts were busy hatchin'
*If they only had a brain.*
I also support this message
💯
David Berg agrees that what you've stated is the best course of action.
Ricky disagreed, along with so many others. May he rest in eternal peace in a place where Berg and his vile egg donor cannot find him.
It is about damn time!
There are few religious organizations for which some scandal has not been exposed. These organizations, all of them, need to be taxed and reviewed periodically for financial abuse and for abuse of their members.
Secular too. Big Brothers, Big Sisters was pedo organization.
Oh my dear God, Im so grateful that I left this sect in 2008.
Typical of every religion! Those are the fruits of religion, not of Christ
No matter what you do or say, you cannot separate the myth of “Christ” from the acts of his followers.
Religion is control
@@MMG-q1vthat is untrue. There is plenty of space to appreciate messenger/s motivating people to love thy neighbor and not judge. Plenty. It is the man that contorts the message.
When Jesus said break a piece of would and there I am and I am is the way the truth and the light. Translation is lost but I KNOW I Am the way the truth and the light and so are you. He preached that light and truth are within the very fabric of being.
MAN is so deranged and mentally ill. 30% needs amputated maybe, unfortunately. Human rights will win. This constant hate is not sustainable.
Gaslighting! Christ’s word is what produces all this rotten fruit, over and over again. It is POISON!!
@Eidelmaniatrue followers of Christ Jesus don't behave in these ways. People who call themselves " Christian" don't necessarily make them one.
There is a vast difference in following Him and just saying one knows Him. That's the difference.
These cults bring much shame to His name.
It sure gets covered up in WA, too. It's sickening.
Religion once again proving to be the root and constant excuse for violence and S A
ONLY ONE CURE .
Abusing children😡😡😡 DEF NEED to be SHUT DOWN!!
What does DEF mean?
You mean like they shut down the Catholic Church? Child abuse is what they do, have you heard of fundamentalist church of Latter Day Saints, they are raped gotten pregnant and then bring their children to their leader and he rapes them and the government protects them as they hide under religion
@@deborahwhit118 definitely 😉 I teach middle schl
I grew up in a Christian house that belongs to an organization just like this. Nobody is brave enough to speak up to the Bishop and his wife about abuse....
And thus, there are followers that stand up and claim that their cult is clear of abuse, and never happens. Brave survivors that speak out are the true power
Christian churches dont have bishops. The catholic church is not a biblical church. Lots of false teaching !!
Skip all those nasty people who are in ANY way abusing elderly, children, and animals! There's nothing in the Torah or in the NT that oks physical abuse of ANY kind. The only thing I saw that referred to correcting children was, "Spare the rod, and spoil the child." In Proverbs somewhere.
Get yourself as far away from the misguided masochists as you can and if you feel you need a church to associate with, check them out first to ensure that they're truly good, Christian folks. If not, keep looking. No cults. No Swinging from Chandelier people, either.
It's supposed to be about You and your life-choices, and your #1 choice should be to love yourself. #2 Find a level-headed teacher. #3 Do your best to follow all rules set forth by G-d Almighty. If you do find yourself in a church/cult that hurts anyone, especially children, physically, REPORT THEM TO THE LAW. 😻
@wqv5423ln well, in ALL the church I grew up with the male leader of those churches were called Bishops....still today the members of that church call him Bishop....
"Whosoever believes in me will be saved" out to undermine any argument that one specific church is the only way. So maybe it isn't about saving anyone, but preying upon them, if these allegations are true.
It's too easy to change the original intent of that line, because people back then lived different lives with different mind-sets, before the Industrial Revolution. Jesus of Nazareth isn't saying you have to believe Him to be saved, He's saying you have to believe, and understand, what His definition of eternity is.
That is a biblical ruth obviously getting twisted. Only Jesus Christ can save not a church of people , cult, sect or human in general. Read the Bible yourself, ask the Holy Spirit to guide you through.
Gotta save the souls of others so you can get into heaven…least that’s what they say. Very selfish actually. lol
@@monarcal8365 Nothing in the Holy Bible talks about ordinary humans saving the souls of others. American televangelists argue whether doing good deeds will get you to heaven or is believing more important. Joel Osteen is one of the worst, saying you can be your own prophet and predict future wealth.
It's obvious churches now in days being mega have a hidden agenda
Isolation, home schooling and patriarchal order makes for fertile ground for abuse. 😢
Yup.
But they want to say kids learning about the existence of lgbtq people is abuse. (Not sure what this particular church's position, but I assume it's in line with the rest and it's bad)
The hypocrisy.
Home school is not fertile ground for abuse. Stop promoting government control!! Some people are just too lazy to teach their kids morals and values beside educate!!
Exactly.
That’s a stupid and Uninformed comment. Patriarchy is Gods Devine order for Families and Government, Jesus is our head Patriarch. And home schooling works very well for lots of families especially where public schools are highly dysfunctional because of liberal Agenda.
Right-wing is as right-wing does!
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We have a church like this in our area. They won’t let their kids marry outside of the church. The elders set up the older men with the younger girls. It’s immoral.
Where at?
@@143purple You looking to hook up with a kid?
I’m so sick of being saturated with the Christian mythology and hypocrisy!!
I hope your anger is directed toward the people that perpetrate religion and use it for their evil intent and not God, himself. God does not condone this wicked twisting of his Word in any way, shape or form.
@@donnagelina8548
I have no anger whatsoever directed towards any Middle Eastern mythological characters, but as a female, there seems to be a great deal of misogynistic hate directed towards me from the patriarchal leader of the hierarchy in the fictional heavens.
@@donnagelina8548 Seems like a ridiculously high number of "gods people" are guilty of horrible things, and yet he does nothing about it. Seems like if he wanted people to know that he doesn't approve then he would do something about it, that is if he actually exists.
@@donnagelina8548Doesn’t exist. Just an excuse to spread hate.
*If god is all-knowing he knew this would happen.
*If god is all-powerful he could have stopped it.
*If god is all-loving he would want to stop it.
You're saying I shouldn't be mad at the guy who watches this stuff happen and does nothing to stop it? If he actually existed, your god is a monster.
Pretty telling that it's the same geographical area as "The Greater Idaho Movement".
I live in England and was raised in the 2 x 2 . I am so shocked by what l have read. While l am no longer in the 2 x 2 l am so horrified as to what is going on, we were led to believe that they were the people we could truslt. To think of the people that have been hurt so badly, and they knew what hurt they did incur. They should have been excommunicated immediately. I hope that justice will prevail and healing will start to take place.
The cops can't crack the case, let's call channel 7 😮😅
Ok, dude. You think all these women are just making this up?
@@judithmccrea2601 where did you get that from? Chill the fuggout. My point is where are the cops? Damn you're quick to misinterpret and overreact.
Guess they aren't tough enough. But reporters are
Stop giving taxpayer money to divisive religious organizations! Stop Bush's Faith Based Initiative and invest in community centers.
Who is to say that "critical thinking" is not the holy spirit speaking to someone? God gave you an intellect to use. SO USE IT!
I despise religion. A way to control and abuse and keep people from being responsible for their faults.
… hear voices as a symptom of some mental health problems, including psychosis, schizophrenia, bipolar disorder, schizoaffective disorder
Critical thinking is clearly *not* the holy spirit. You have an intellect, use it.
Critical thinking and religious beliefs cannot exist in the same space.
@@wendybutler1681 schizophrenia is a disease of the brain where hearing voices is the symptom. Perhaps the mentally ill are leading the healthy to their doom through generational trauma and the abused kids grew up, spoke out and changing laws. No religion needs a vast stock portfolio. TAX THE MORMON CORPORATION ALREADY A HARSH "COME TO JESUS" TAXATION TO HUMBLE THOSE GREEDY OLD GROSS PEDOPHILE PROMOTING MEN.
The usual suspects.
Yeah, and everybody is shocked.
Too many churches think "Only our congregation is going to heaven, others are wrong" & they tell you 💙 are going to hell.. Yeah, I don't go anymore.
💙= democrats and liberals 😉 My bleeding blue heart doesn't need to $ support that!
980 different perpetrators stemming back to the 60s---and only 6 charged so far?
And the FBI is just now getting involved??
I went to college in the midwest and "The Way" was recruiting people. Most of my friends recognized it as a cult right away. I had a couple friends that went to meetings for a month or so and tried to talk the rest of us into joining, Lucky for them, they dropped out of the cult on their own soon afterwards.
Sounds like the Republican Party.
And its the non-Religious who are a threat to children.
Don’t you mean: it’s the non-religious who are falsely accused of being a threat to children?
False equivalencies aren’t a great argument.
Welcome to H E L L, literally!
Happy to hear that the DOJ has opened an investigation. There have LITERALLY been full length televised stories about individual victims dating back years, so it is high time investigation and legal action be taken.
Honestly I am not the point where if you claim to be “devout Christian” I automatically assume you’re abusing people. Sad but that’s where we are.
True. I run from the man with the Bible in his hand.
@@Imissyoulou Every time.
I wonder how many years it will take for this to be exposed in Islam
Great point!
Why would I care? My family isn’t Muslim they’re Christian
Why do you wonder that? Seems like distracting from this horrible thing to speculate on a maybe possibly some other horrible thing that might be happening somewhere that isnt in front of us right this minute is probably a clue that somethings wrong with _you_
@@MP-db9sw So because it isn’t in front of you, we should forget the Muslim women and children? Maybe, just maybe, IT’S YOU! Pakistan alone is the country with the most documented cases of incest and child deformities. This has gone on for centuries in the Middle East, you uninformed fool!
What's wrong about talking about this one? Are you pretending we should ignore this one because the other ones exist?
Silence just helps the bad guy
Don't forget to arrest the women as well who enable this barbaric behavior,
Agree! They stand by knowing with their thumbs up their arses, instead of helping the abused children.
@@elizabethreed3358 you've got a way with words
Seems normal for the christen cult
And the Satanist!
We need to end the statuete of limitation for sexual abuse. A lot of us that were abused in our youth, it takes decades to heal and grow out of that trauma. The statuete should be open, especially if you have a confession, witnesses, or evidence.
"Religion was invented when the first con-man met the first fool."-Mark Twain
I remember that kind of narrow mindedness in Sunday School when I was a kid. Comments like, "It's too bad about the Catholics..." I think 70 years later it isn't as prevalent.
And who is investigating the FBI? Talk about real criminals.
Their “paramount concern “ should be to end the sexual abuse, not have victims seek professional help. Seems bass ackward to me.
Until 2x2s was mentioned I thought the report was going to be about the JWs. This is the first I’m hearing of this group. There seems an astonishing amount of doctrinal and linguistic similarity.😮
Could be any religion in fairness
I thought they were talking about JW's at first, too.
We will not go back!!!
"The way" is mentioned in the bible. Some cults try to use that name to seem more credible. I was raised jehovahs witness. They taught that originally, they were "the way". That made members think the religion went back to bible times, convincing them they were in the true religion. That was my experience anyway
They are worried about going to heaven, when they are no earthly good?
“Church leaders concealed the abuse and silenced the victims?” REALLY? 😂OMG! Just another Tuesday in Religioustan…how is this even news anymore?!? Seriously.
Believe me, when you wait 45 years to be acknowledged and publicly vindicated, It's News
All religious groups have these problems
Not in a Christian church! When did this start happening?
It's NOT a Christian church ! It's a sect ; a cult.
Hard to say, alive and well with perversion by the 70's I can personally attest
The basic establishment strategy: stall and delay until “oh no, the statute of limitations is up!” 🤷♂️.
Wow. A group of religious weirdos doing horrible things to children. I haven’t read a story like this in a day or two.
People should come forward
Forgive, forget, hide the evidence, move on. ☹️
This needs to be shared all over the place!❤
You didn’t say where the sect was
Started in Scotland in the 1880's migrated to the USA by 1902
Why have churches where this is systemic not been dismantled? Protect the children!
Sounds like another religious organization we all know. But they are open about it but don't speak of it CATHOLICS. Documents from 1567 show it has gone on for hundreds of years.
Disgusting, and not even a little bit surprising.
JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED. Using God's Name to be a vessel for satan never ends well. (Reference bible for facts).
Who new males deifying themselves as being made in the image of a fictional godlike character to be submitted to and never questioned unless u wanted to suffer the deitys wrath was an extremely dangerous, weaponizable, unnatural model? I mean, who knew?🤨
The timing on this is interesting. Of course, people do these things in every religion, spiritual path, political party, Hollywood, Disney, cults, many families..... but it's interesting how we frame these exposes....
Remember "s a t a n i c. P a n i c?" Remember false memory syndrome? So are we selectively affirming and gaslighting?
I pray for peace to the survivors. I pray that people stop mistaking Jesus for the actions of those who proclaim to be His followers.
Typical.
" The Way " I remember them showing up on the campus of UMASS Amherst in the 70s
these groups are creepy & just weird
Every single religion/place of worship needs to be investigated.
How about FBI investigating Catholic Church.
How about the FBI investigating you
What happened to the Epstein list????
This Trump cult needs to be broken up.
You're one of the worst cases of TDS I'v seen, please seek mental health. This video has nothing to do about politics, but you some how see politics in it.
Let kamala address this on first debate..or will she show up?
@@Dane-o7q Oh, she'll show up, 100%. Trump however, not sure about him.
@@Vaushgg I will bet $100 she does not show!
@@Vaushgg Go back to your commi country.
Ha, shocking 🙄
There's no justice for victims.
When ppl realize that organized religion is a tool, we will begin to understand its power.
Duuhhh. Your religious too. You just worship self.
@@wqv5423ln You're is the correct spelling. And we are all gods. God is a construct of man. Just realize. Chill and expand.
@@nelsaf365 Your fate is recorded in Romans 1
@@wqv5423ln Fantastic!! Read it to me, please? I don't know what it is. (wrings hands) Is death involved? A wrathful, omniscient being? Oooo, so excited!
@@nelsaf365 What you say is irrelevent. What God says about you is all that matters. Psalm 14 : 1, II Peter 3 : 3
7:54 Well that's a LAME EXCUSE!! WE ALL KNOW that CHILD Sexual Abuse is EVIL, VILE & DERANGED. If you are an ADULT & you KNOW this is going on AND YOU DON'T REPORT IT to the AUTHORITIES YOU ARE AS GUILTY as the PERPETRATOR.
The FBI needs to investigate every church for this as they are all guilty of abusing children!
Yup
Every church has sanctioned, or merely tolerated, child abuse or is it just groups in every religion?
You shall know them by their fruits
Correct. This is not a " Christian" sect. Its a cult. Unfortunately most people commenting have no clue what a Christian is !
predators
God will never embrace abusers of children. I’m glad they are being investigated and I hope the abuse stops
Not good!