@@jakobrenner2230 Agreed, master and apprentice both manipulated. In the end, I would have liked to see him here assist in putting an end to the nightmare that cost him and Revan so much.
That’s the idea in a fanfic I’m writing, he is permanently imprinted on the force and is able to rebuild himself physically by the time of the sequels. Rey and the OC’s essentially become the Belmonts to Vitiate’s Dracula
I still consider his death in kotet to be his real final death since that was his spirt, this was just a shattered memory of himself, But I really loved the ending where all those people show up. It brought back so many memory's of when I met them earlier in the story.
I think of it same way I think of rise of Skywalker. Basically digging up the corpse and burning. They were defeated before bow let's make sure they cant come back
Well to be honest. It is long known that the Sith Emperor has achieved immortality. One way or another. And Tenebrae who lived in an era where rituals, magic and alchemy were THE most used things and not just mastery of the force abilities. He survived without a body when he was killed by Jedi Knight. He survived without body even after Ziost and then went to Valkorion. We destroyed him in our mind but then again he still lived even while not in our body. I still think Valkrion still just showed to us rather than living in us. He was just scared when we throw our lives away because he needed us. Also, a reason why he could show up to Senya or to Vaylin. Now we have destroyed Tenebrae who has ritual carved into his body and God knows what else the ritual can do. It kept his Tenebrae spirit intact while other kept changing bodies and evolving into Valkorion. The reason why he was angry at him and at Vitiate. So this is not just pulling someone long dead card but pulling character that just can't die one way or another. And for all we know he can now be hiding in body of a farmer. Like he said. He can be anyone. Farmer or craftsman. Time is nothing to him. Also, I think we are still waiting for this quote to come to life: "Remember me when you Alliance burns to ash." Which can be related to us making a mistake destroying him or he will come back and end the entire alliance and lives of those we love. Or that he and only he had the power to stop Alliance from crumbling. Just like Vader and Palpatine and power to save Padme.
@@balrok9959 It just the way he acted in Satels mind, He doesn't recognize my sith warrior who was his personal enforcer a few years back and he says it himself, that he learned about recent events through Satels memories. Tenebrae here was just his last save file. Valkorion was the peak of all his power and knowledge that he has gathered through out his life.
Balrok99 well in EU lore it's said that his presence finally disappeared from the Galaxy around ~60 BBY. So yeah, my manz was still out there. But instead of trying to manipulate people and be defeated once more, he just settled down somewhere or did whatever he wanted to that wouldn't gather much attention to anyone for the next 3 millennia...
7:59 Meanwhile, Palpatine will eventually give it the old college try to outdo Tenebre. And with either timeline, it’s certainly not for a lack of effort that he’ll come up short all the same.
It was originally supposed to end like this with the ghosts of the past Jedi all appearing and giving Rey their power to defeat Sidious, instead we only got some voices thanks to Kathleen Kennedy ( she even cut out all Anakin scenes with Hayden Christensen)
@@Greekhalo2010 Tbf even that idea wouldn't have been good enough to save the story. Palpatine returning to die within the same movie was far too cheap
@@Greekhalo2010 Kathleen Kennedy does not eliminate anything, that scene was eliminated by the members of the story group who know this universe well and know that not all Jedi transform into force spirits after death, to acquire that form a Jedi needs special training, even Lucas introduces this concept at the end of Episode III and explains it in detail in The Clone Wars series.
I am so happy they gave Vitiate an updated design for this. It would have been a bit weird if he stood next to Tenebrae and Valkorion in those plain, low rez robes he had on in the Knight storyline
Vitiate literally completely overpowered Revan and melted his face into his mask while he was calling on both sides of the force at the same time. No, “Revan Reborn” was nothing to Vitiate.
@@ieatmyveggiez5029 NICE TRY kid. I VERY clearly have what the fuck are you even talking about. YOU clearly haven’t read it. Vitiate ABSOLUTELY melted Revan’s face into his damn mask you blatant fanboy. He completely overpowered him. Whether or not Scourge betrayed them or not he was fucked either way. That was the whole POINT, he NEEDED Meetra Surik’s help to even have a chance to defeat him you’re incompetent. Revan is nothing compared to Vitiate sit back down fanboy.
Would explain so much about Snoke. His shattered form could be result of being filled with so much Dark Force to the point where every new body started to fall apart after few years. The plot could be about him wanting to make Ben a perfect vessel for himself and ultimately succeeding and coming back one final time, this time with a body that is resilient enough to handle his Dark Side forever, the Knights of Ren could have been other people that he thought could handle it, but ultimately were not enough, but made them his knights. The plot about him could have been far more complex too, about him learning about how meaningless this search for power is and decided to come back to go away, explore other galaxies, not be bothered by anything. Just leave the Galaxy in state of total "peace" created by his First Order.
I love this final, final ending for him. 'Cos my current laptop can't really handle SWTOR, I decided (after practically being raised on the kotor games, the Revan novel and a few other comics and things) to just pore over all the lore of the Emperor and his story and the emotions oh god Seeing everyone is just such a powerful moment for me, particularly Revan and Surik. Revan was always, to me, a favourite character but Surik's fate at the hands of Scourge hit me like a truck and I hated Scourge for a while afterward (though her being a force ghost for a while to help Revan provides some solace) I think of Vitiate as being the ultimate big bad of the Old Republic era and this takedown of him was, for me, so satisfying and epic. Just the sheer amount of emotion imagining every game, comic, novel, etc has led to this. The death of this man who's been alive since the Great Hyperspace Wars and has been influencing events in the galaxy to some degree as far back as manipulating Mandalore the Ultimate into starting the Mandalorian Wars, which is what ultimately pushed Revan (and by extension, Surik, Malak, and so many more) to do what they did. I'm sorry, I feel like I've gone on quite an overflow of words here. I just get so emotional at this. The Old Republic has always been my favourite era of star wars and this feels like the end of the story that I've been following on and off since I was a kid. I'm sure more story will still come. But this just has such finality to it for me. A fair few overarching stories in star wars haven't had an end that I've resonated with so much and so I'm glad this one did. Edit: Oh, and, slight turn of theme, but do my ears deceive me or is that Kotor 2 music playing around the start there? (sorry, am too lazy to timestamp) 'Cos I think it is and that just makes it better
@Moss Alyssa Marr and Satele: Darth Vitiate is the most dangerous and powerful and destructive being in the universe. Abeloth: Hold my pool of knowledge and font of power.
If you think about it, this is the true ending to the KOTOR “trilogy”. Revan returned. Meetra returned. MC using Malek’s death quote. It all finally came together for this one moment.
In the very end Tenebrae was nothing more than a memory. Clinging desperately like a hunting ghost to that which he stole from his countless victims, Life. Now the very power he used to sustain himself and even claimed mastery over became his undoing by seeking what it’s always sought in every era, Balance…
I like the way all three avatars die here. Kinda feels weird though that Valkorion was the first to go, since out of these three he seems to be the most powerful avatar of the three. Here it kinda feels like the three die from weakest to strongest, and if that’s true then Valkorion is the weakest avatar, Vitiate is the second strongest avatar, and Tenebrae being the most powerful.
I think that's pretty much the he case Valkorion being the weakest and Tenebrae the strongest. If i'm not wrong the Jedi Knight managed to beat Vitiate because he was weakened from his attempt at absorbing worlds and the MC in SWTOR never faced the full might of Tenebrae in his Pureblood Sith body, only Revan, Meetra and Scourge did it, explaining why we only face a body controlled by the Emperor when playing the Jedi Knight, because when facing Revan he met his first equal
@@desolatortrooper7196 Well we do know that Tenebrae is the real original body of the Emperor with him transferring his essence into both Vitiate and Valkorion who were both different vessels.
I think it's more like... Latest avatar to Earliest. Valkorion was his final avatar, Vitiate was when he was Emperor, and Tenebrae was his first, true self.
Bioware: „Don’t worry, he‘s dead for real this Time!“ Me: Oh good, thank God that‘s finally ov-.. Bioware 2025: „Somehow Palpatine is Tenebrae“ Me:….MOTHERFU-!
@@treystroeder5506 I mean the Ghost of Darth Bane appeared to Yoda, and Revan was going to appear as well, soooo... It's not too far fetched... And it seems Palpatine has the same habit of coming back
I mean that would be great for continuity bc Palpatine was always stated to be the most powerful Sith ever and I always found that odd bc Tenebrae obviously demonstrated much more power than Palpatine
They defeated the "most evil and destructive being in history"? I dunno about that -- Kathleen Kennedy is still ruining the Star Wars franchise as we speak.
I spent all the time of my isolation in the force to meditate. I realized that then it was too early to absorb all the force in the universe, through the very small mistakes that my enemies made to defeat me in that time I came out of my oblivion and now I'm ten times more powerful than before. your strinings are now truly insignificant, let your death be the same.
@@randomcenturion7264 Never stated in lore, and Palpatine was able to crawl out of it. It took all of the Jedi ever to live and living to seal him away for eternity. (Dark Empire Comics)
Never played these games or had and idea about the characters of Star wars outside the films, then last week I randomly stumbled upon CivilizationEx Complete History of Reven lore. WOW! I was blown away by how good Reven and Vitiate are, By far my fav Characters in the Star Wars Universe. Nothing I've seen in the films comes close to the power these 2 possess - Reven was everything Anakin/Vader should've been, the story in that Lore vid was way better than the story of the films that it makes me sad and angry they didn't make that story the focus of the films instead, or the last 3 films at least as we didn't need any of those story wise and could of used those to launch a new set of trilogies based on the Old Republic as the Characters, Stories and scope was far greater in those times, instead they give us Rogue One, Solo and a boring Mandalorian TV show.
4:48 I've got to ask, did you use arcann customization 2? Became Satele mentioned arcann and senya going back to odessen meaning they're alive but I see this appearance which is seen when he dies
@Specter Marr and Satele: Darth Vitiate is the most dangerous and powerful and destructive being in the universe. Abeloth: Hold my pool of knowledge and font of power.
@@NefariousSpecter Vitiate is more evil but Abeloth is probably more powerful. He'd have been blasted into oblivion if he'd been there when she nuked kesh city with what was described as "nearly inconceivable amounts" of Force energy.
@@Valkyraw Abeloth is too powerful. We know from what happened on kesh. She released "nearly inconcievable" amounts of force energy. Ironically though, despite being the ultimate villain of star wars she's actually less evil than he is.
Considering _The World Between Worlds_ is a thing now in Disney Canon, and it establishes a sort of greater Star Wars multiverse, anyone else expecting The Emperor to try and pull a fast one and personally make the jump from legends to canon, legends history fully intact?
I can't wait for the good jedi master Palpatine of earth-87 to visit the main timeline and implore Luke to help him against the evil Yoda of earth-90 from conquering other universes
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul _Star War: What If…._ That actually sounds like a show that not only can reasonably exist but would ABSOLUTELY make bank, especially since the idea was always popular enough ever since the prequel trilogy wrapped up.
I wish it could have been a real expansion like KOTFE/KOTET, but I liked the way Tenebrae finally goes out, it is a rip off of Endgame but I thought it was a satisfying why to end Tenebrae’s story.
Antany Baines in EU lore, his presence doesn't leave the galaxy till ~60 BBY. He might not have had a corporeal firm anymore (I think) but he was still out there just existing. After this defeat, I'm sure he realized if his spirit takes anymore damage it will truly be destroyed forever and fall into chaos...
I am very confused. I just saw this cutscene out of the blue with no explanation. So I know that all three of those Sith Lords are one person but how are 3 of them living at the same time? Is vitiate just controlling all 3 or something? Or is it just the same dude in 3 bodies
Untill he comes back as the main antagonist in the next star wars trilogy. ( I hope at least.) I'd actually like it if they make it that he truly is immortal and he has to be defeated every few millennia by the most powerful warriors at the time.
Essentially, long before the events of SWTOR and even the KotOR games, after taking the form of Vitiate, Tenebrae performed some kind of ritual on his now-discarded, original Sith Pureblooded body (the red guy shown in this cutscene) that imbued it with a fragment of his soul, kept dormant. It was a sort of backup system in the event he perished in one of his other bodies and his spirit was unable to take over a new one, which is what happened when we struck down his spirit at the end of KotET. Kira and Scourge had uncovered and destroyed Tenebrae’s original body, but all that did was release some kind of plague that infected them and anyone else who tried to help them, the latter being Satele Shan and her new students. Kira and Scourge were able to overcome its effects because of their connection to Tenebrae, but Shan and the students weren’t so fortunate. It turns out that fragment of his soul Tenebrae had imbued into the body dissolved into the plague, and it was infesting the minds of those unable to resist. The events of this update in-game are essentially the player characters teaming up with Kira and Scourge to go into the mindscape of Shan to confront and destroy this echo of Tenebrae for good before he can re-manifest into the physical galaxy.
The power of all the people he manipulated, betrayed, and murdered combined their power to destroy his last vestiges. In the end, it was too much even for him to overcome.
It’s sort of a splintered consciousness type thing because at times they act like separate people but other times carries out an entire conversation across his 3 variations
I don't give a shit what anyone says, Revan should have had the final kill on the emperor for all the hell he went through. He should have sacrificed himself for the win.
Still getting cucked as Inqusitor because they never show the other force ghosts in this cutscene due to writer either not caring about past story or not smh.Yes I kept my force ghosts Id like to be able to see those bitches, after all I went through 3 hour fucking quest chain for them.
Because new stories are made for jedi knight , yes you can play them as any of your characters but in the story , Darth Nox , Grand Chempion , Barsen'thor.etc are dead or missing .
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Damn, even in death Revan is still banishing people to the shadow realm....
He is banished, but still can exit like Palpatine considering his commendable power beyond that of even Palps.
@@DarthMarr2009 revan doesn’t have power beyond that of palpatine’s.
@@zoroux2826 I meant vitiate
@@zoroux2826hater
You're wrong he was far more powerful before he got inprisoned for 300 years.
@@zoroux2826
"In the end you are nothing"
"As the Darkness takes me I am nothing"
"Now I know how you feel old friend"
It would be nice to see Malak being one of the Spirits taking vengeance since the Sith Emperor corrupted him and Revan.
@@georgehouliaras7239 yep, in the end he was a victim of Vitiate too
Or have more Sith he manipulated show up.
@@jakobrenner2230 Agreed, master and apprentice both manipulated. In the end, I would have liked to see him here assist in putting an end to the nightmare that cost him and Revan so much.
wasn't that dramath? tenebrae's father?
Last death of the Emperor, we pinky promise.
Now I'm waiting for Malgus to heal up on Dantoonie, get a stealth armada,
and proclaim a new Empire.
I think he’s gone for good. It feels different this time
@Cringe2Win yes it would even be cool if you could join Malgus
@@Footware66 so was he frozen in carb or not? His ending confuses me
That’s the idea in a fanfic I’m writing, he is permanently imprinted on the force and is able to rebuild himself physically by the time of the sequels. Rey and the OC’s essentially become the Belmonts to Vitiate’s Dracula
SWTOR : endgame
well, well, well, i'm not only one who watching this video today.
I still consider his death in kotet to be his real final death since that was his spirt, this was just a
shattered memory of himself, But I really loved the ending where all those people show up. It brought back so many memory's of when I met them earlier in the story.
I think of it same way I think of rise of Skywalker. Basically digging up the corpse and burning. They were defeated before bow let's make sure they cant come back
I'm sure rise of Skywalker inspire them.
Well to be honest. It is long known that the Sith Emperor has achieved immortality. One way or another. And Tenebrae who lived in an era where rituals, magic and alchemy were THE most used things and not just mastery of the force abilities.
He survived without a body when he was killed by Jedi Knight. He survived without body even after Ziost and then went to Valkorion.
We destroyed him in our mind but then again he still lived even while not in our body. I still think Valkrion still just showed to us rather than living in us. He was just scared when we throw our lives away because he needed us. Also, a reason why he could show up to Senya or to Vaylin.
Now we have destroyed Tenebrae who has ritual carved into his body and God knows what else the ritual can do. It kept his Tenebrae spirit intact while other kept changing bodies and evolving into Valkorion. The reason why he was angry at him and at Vitiate.
So this is not just pulling someone long dead card but pulling character that just can't die one way or another.
And for all we know he can now be hiding in body of a farmer. Like he said. He can be anyone. Farmer or craftsman. Time is nothing to him.
Also, I think we are still waiting for this quote to come to life: "Remember me when you Alliance burns to ash."
Which can be related to us making a mistake destroying him or he will come back and end the entire alliance and lives of those we love. Or that he and only he had the power to stop Alliance from crumbling. Just like Vader and Palpatine and power to save Padme.
@@balrok9959 It just the way he acted in Satels mind, He doesn't recognize my sith warrior who was his personal enforcer a few years back and he says it himself, that he learned about recent events through Satels memories. Tenebrae here was just his last save file. Valkorion was the peak of all his power and knowledge that he has gathered
through out his life.
Balrok99 well in EU lore it's said that his presence finally disappeared from the Galaxy around ~60 BBY. So yeah, my manz was still out there. But instead of trying to manipulate people and be defeated once more, he just settled down somewhere or did whatever he wanted to that wouldn't gather much attention to anyone for the next 3 millennia...
7:59
Meanwhile, Palpatine will eventually give it the old college try to outdo Tenebre. And with either timeline, it’s certainly not for a lack of effort that he’ll come up short all the same.
They should have ended the rise of skywalker like this.
Damn straight
It was originally supposed to end like this with the ghosts of the past Jedi all appearing and giving Rey their power to defeat Sidious, instead we only got some voices thanks to Kathleen Kennedy ( she even cut out all Anakin scenes with Hayden Christensen)
@@Greekhalo2010 Tbf even that idea wouldn't have been good enough to save the story. Palpatine returning to die within the same movie was far too cheap
@@Greekhalo2010 Kathleen Kennedy does not eliminate anything, that scene was eliminated by the members of the story group who know this universe well and know that not all Jedi transform into force spirits after death, to acquire that form a Jedi needs special training, even Lucas introduces this concept at the end of Episode III and explains it in detail in The Clone Wars series.
@@alanvillalobosdiaz7852 yes you’re right but we heard all those force voices at the end they could have atleast shown them
Can we all appreciate the fact that the theme being used for his demise is the Funeral theme for Qui-Gon and Padmé/Anakin?
Well, this is a funeral in a sense. Hopefully the last of the sith emperor.
I am so happy they gave Vitiate an updated design for this. It would have been a bit weird if he stood next to Tenebrae and Valkorion in those plain, low rez robes he had on in the Knight storyline
Giving Meetra a speech part in this scene is a rather nice gesture to say "Hey, we got two KotOR protagonists!"
5:22 Valkorion: ''The Force is mine! I command it!'' //// What I hear: *''I am the Force!''*
Is a tradition of sith emperors
Emperor: It can't be! How?!
Me: I am Revan reborn! And before me you are nothing!
Revan didn't even do much lmao
Nothing ? LMAO in reality, Vitiate > Revan
Vitiate literally completely overpowered Revan and melted his face into his mask while he was calling on both sides of the force at the same time. No, “Revan Reborn” was nothing to Vitiate.
@@dazdavis7896incorrect, you clearly haven’t read the book
@@ieatmyveggiez5029 NICE TRY kid. I VERY clearly have what the fuck are you even talking about. YOU clearly haven’t read it. Vitiate ABSOLUTELY melted Revan’s face into his damn mask you blatant fanboy. He completely overpowered him. Whether or not Scourge betrayed them or not he was fucked either way. That was the whole POINT, he NEEDED Meetra Surik’s help to even have a chance to defeat him you’re incompetent. Revan is nothing compared to Vitiate sit back down fanboy.
I still think that Vitiate would have been a better antagonist for The Last Jedi.
Would explain so much about Snoke. His shattered form could be result of being filled with so much Dark Force to the point where every new body started to fall apart after few years. The plot could be about him wanting to make Ben a perfect vessel for himself and ultimately succeeding and coming back one final time, this time with a body that is resilient enough to handle his Dark Side forever, the Knights of Ren could have been other people that he thought could handle it, but ultimately were not enough, but made them his knights. The plot about him could have been far more complex too, about him learning about how meaningless this search for power is and decided to come back to go away, explore other galaxies, not be bothered by anything. Just leave the Galaxy in state of total "peace" created by his First Order.
@@AzraelSoulHunter No
But then there wouldn't be a trilogy to begin with
dead meme
Snoke should have been his own villain
I love this final, final ending for him. 'Cos my current laptop can't really handle SWTOR, I decided (after practically being raised on the kotor games, the Revan novel and a few other comics and things) to just pore over all the lore of the Emperor and his story and the emotions oh god
Seeing everyone is just such a powerful moment for me, particularly Revan and Surik. Revan was always, to me, a favourite character but Surik's fate at the hands of Scourge hit me like a truck and I hated Scourge for a while afterward (though her being a force ghost for a while to help Revan provides some solace)
I think of Vitiate as being the ultimate big bad of the Old Republic era and this takedown of him was, for me, so satisfying and epic. Just the sheer amount of emotion imagining every game, comic, novel, etc has led to this. The death of this man who's been alive since the Great Hyperspace Wars and has been influencing events in the galaxy to some degree as far back as manipulating Mandalore the Ultimate into starting the Mandalorian Wars, which is what ultimately pushed Revan (and by extension, Surik, Malak, and so many more) to do what they did.
I'm sorry, I feel like I've gone on quite an overflow of words here. I just get so emotional at this. The Old Republic has always been my favourite era of star wars and this feels like the end of the story that I've been following on and off since I was a kid. I'm sure more story will still come. But this just has such finality to it for me. A fair few overarching stories in star wars haven't had an end that I've resonated with so much and so I'm glad this one did.
Edit: Oh, and, slight turn of theme, but do my ears deceive me or is that Kotor 2 music playing around the start there? (sorry, am too lazy to timestamp) 'Cos I think it is and that just makes it better
I agree
it feels like the end
And then, thousands of years later, here comes another Emperor in the form of The Senate
You should read the Old Republic novels if you haven’t already
@@jamesthestupi2903 I have lol
I go into some of what happens in the big paragraph you just replied to
@Moss Alyssa Marr and Satele: Darth Vitiate is the most dangerous and powerful and destructive being in the universe.
Abeloth: Hold my pool of knowledge and font of power.
If you think about it, this is the true ending to the KOTOR “trilogy”.
Revan returned.
Meetra returned.
MC using Malek’s death quote.
It all finally came together for this one moment.
True, hopefully it is finally over.
@@lordofcreativity9637 *A mouse lurks in laughing evil*
@@legoboy2154 I beg your pardon?
In the very end Tenebrae was nothing more than a memory. Clinging desperately like a hunting ghost to that which he stole from his countless victims, Life. Now the very power he used to sustain himself and even claimed mastery over became his undoing by seeking what it’s always sought in every era, Balance…
5:33 that sort of echoes Malak's last words
"And in the end as the darkness takes me...
I am nothing
''together we are the force'' aah ending
So ends the reign of the Immortal Empeor...
again...
@@Umirua And forever
@@mr.ditkovich6379 Until later
@@Umirua No, he is dead
@@mr.ditkovich6379 That's what we said at the end of KOTET
Image if this is how palpatine died with all the force ghost coming from the jedis and even othe characters in Star Wars
@TB Phillips Yeah but with Anakin there.
@@iso-didact789 that would be great
I like how they did a call back to the Consular story with the Children of the emperor, with Master Syo being at the front of the group
Huh now i wonder, where is Parkanas and Master Yuon???
@@catnoirlover1719 I don't believe they were children of the emperoror
@@tb4322 ouh
No wonder we didn't see them both
A better conclusion than the Rise of Skywalker.
That trilogy is trash
Better conclusion than the prequels.
@@PerfectAzrael hard disagree
@@kumanaz2765 The prequels are also trash. Doesn’t matter if you hate the sequels.
@@PerfectAzrael it’s got nothing to do with the sequels. I just disagree.
I like the way all three avatars die here. Kinda feels weird though that Valkorion was the first to go, since out of these three he seems to be the most powerful avatar of the three. Here it kinda feels like the three die from weakest to strongest, and if that’s true then Valkorion is the weakest avatar, Vitiate is the second strongest avatar, and Tenebrae being the most powerful.
I think that's pretty much the he case Valkorion being the weakest and Tenebrae the strongest.
If i'm not wrong the Jedi Knight managed to beat Vitiate because he was weakened from his attempt at absorbing worlds and the MC in SWTOR never faced the full might of Tenebrae in his Pureblood Sith body, only Revan, Meetra and Scourge did it, explaining why we only face a body controlled by the Emperor when playing the Jedi Knight, because when facing Revan he met his first equal
@@desolatortrooper7196 Well we do know that Tenebrae is the real original body of the Emperor with him transferring his essence into both Vitiate and Valkorion who were both different vessels.
I think it's more like... Latest avatar to Earliest. Valkorion was his final avatar, Vitiate was when he was Emperor, and Tenebrae was his first, true self.
5:46 when you see the ending to Palpatine in Rise of Skywalker.
Tenebraes death was way more cooler then just being blasted by your own force lighting again.
Except tenebrae death is more epic
@@Footware66 Sidious, one of the greatest and most powerful Sith in history, and Disney made him a dumbass.
@@traskulgo He was always a dumbass
@@Kobaford he was one of the most intelligent ‚cunning and manipulative persons in the whole series his rise to power proves this
Vitiate’s Final Death
For now
Man is gonna come back
The current theory is that Vaylin is going to come back next time.
@@twinodoom Valk is gonna return too since he does some trolling
Bioware: „Don’t worry, he‘s dead for real this Time!“
Me: Oh good, thank God that‘s finally ov-..
Bioware 2025: „Somehow Palpatine is Tenebrae“
Me:….MOTHERFU-!
I mean, it could potentially work, if he got reborn again. 🤔
But that’s like… four thousand years….
I guess it time for a very long carbonate nap everyone!
@@treystroeder5506 I mean the Ghost of Darth Bane appeared to Yoda, and Revan was going to appear as well, soooo... It's not too far fetched... And it seems Palpatine has the same habit of coming back
I mean that would be great for continuity bc Palpatine was always stated to be the most powerful Sith ever and I always found that odd bc Tenebrae obviously demonstrated much more power than Palpatine
“With the powers of Palpatine and Tenebrae combined… Our profits will be endless!” - a random executive.
I wish it was possible to replay certain missions
They defeated the "most evil and destructive being in history"? I dunno about that -- Kathleen Kennedy is still ruining the Star Wars franchise as we speak.
It was George Lucas as the most evil and destructive being in history, the Force has saved us from his failure lol
@@PerfectAzrael have to agree with that
Cringe
And? At least they didn’t bring back palpatine like 50 times
What about the Mandalorian and Andor?
I spent all the time of my isolation in the force to meditate. I realized that then it was too early to absorb all the force in the universe, through the very small mistakes that my enemies made to defeat me in that time I came out of my oblivion and now I'm ten times more powerful than before. your strinings are now truly insignificant, let your death be the same.
Disney: These are all great ideas for the new trilogy but I can't use this. It'll make us look bad.
?
Because you would call Disney uncreative/unoriginal, SJW or woke if they used any of these ideas.
Because it will be mediocre imitations you'd love
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul Because the fans would never stop whining about it and circlejerk about it for 20 more years.
@@PerfectAzrael you aren't wrong, but then again the fans didn't like it to begin with
The FORCE seeks BALANCE Always!!!
Not gonna lie i was sooooo happy to put an end to this Bastard, and seeing the ghosts of so many brought a big smile to my face at his end
Hell yeah. He's been wiped from the very Netherworld of the Force. As dead as dead can be.
Same here friend 🙏😔
@@randomcenturion7264 Nothing can be wiped from the Netherworld
@@DarthMarr2009 How come?
@@randomcenturion7264 Never stated in lore, and Palpatine was able to crawl out of it. It took all of the Jedi ever to live and living to seal him away for eternity. (Dark Empire Comics)
I like the Detail that they turn to Stone from his last Form to his First Form
Well there goes my idea of a fan story of him coming back through his offsprings generations until he’s able to come face to face with Palpatine.
We’ve killed him physically.
We’ve killed him emotionally…
And now we’ve killed him spiritually…
*Erased from Existence.*
episode 9 should of been like this but palptine wins until luke yoda anakin fight him in a three on 1
the emperor is basically Naraku from inuyasha he will be back next week
As the outlander said, nothing lasts forever, death eventually will catch up to you, sad truth.
From Ashes to Ashes, Dust to Dust.
I think how much time has passed does matter
It was in the novel Darth Plaqueis that confirmed Vitiate's death. But we finally got to see it in a future update.
Somehow vitiate returned
Never played these games or had and idea about the characters of Star wars outside the films, then last week I randomly stumbled upon CivilizationEx Complete History of Reven lore. WOW! I was blown away by how good Reven and Vitiate are, By far my fav Characters in the Star Wars Universe. Nothing I've seen in the films comes close to the power these 2 possess - Reven was everything Anakin/Vader should've been, the story in that Lore vid was way better than the story of the films that it makes me sad and angry they didn't make that story the focus of the films instead, or the last 3 films at least as we didn't need any of those story wise and could of used those to launch a new set of trilogies based on the Old Republic as the Characters, Stories and scope was far greater in those times, instead they give us Rogue One, Solo and a boring Mandalorian TV show.
The now formerly immortal emperor.
Turns out, something *could* stop me 😅😅
any1 else getting Lord of the Ring vibes? When that one guy summons an army of ghost to take on the orcs?
Yeah, they were even a similar color
You mean Aragorn son of Arathorn, you filthy casual.
Damn, the only thing my ending had in common with this, was the spacey zone.
4:48 I've got to ask, did you use arcann customization 2? Became Satele mentioned arcann and senya going back to odessen meaning they're alive but I see this appearance which is seen when he dies
He's alive for my Sith Warrior, so yes I was just using his masked appearance
And yet, I'm still alive.
Palpatine on steroids
In which DLC I can play this scene? I've already finished kotfe
I am most powerfull being in the universe.
Power of friendship activate.
NOOOOOO!!
Is there a way to get Vitiate's armor from this cutscene in-game?
Solid, that they used the Malachor V music from KOTOR 2's soundtrack
We agree that it's a victory: "I can't lose because I believe in the power of friendship"
Actually, this looks like the series finale of Gen4 My Little Pony.
@Specter Marr and Satele: Darth Vitiate is the most dangerous and powerful and destructive being in the universe.
Abeloth: Hold my pool of knowledge and font of power.
They probably didn't read those books
@@NefariousSpecter Vitiate is more evil but Abeloth is probably more powerful. He'd have been blasted into oblivion if he'd been there when she nuked kesh city with what was described as "nearly inconceivable amounts" of Force energy.
@@iso-didact789 or he would have absorbed her, like he did on Nathema, Ziost and almost the entire galaxy.
@@Valkyraw Abeloth is too powerful. We know from what happened on kesh. She released "nearly inconcievable" amounts of force energy. Ironically though, despite being the ultimate villain of star wars she's actually less evil than he is.
What music is playing at 3:05
And this is the proper way to end a tyrant trying to return. A more fitting ending.
I haven’t played ToR in a long time. What extension was this? I don’t remember this at all
"thus ends the reign of the immortal emperor"
He'll be back
Hey do you think we made a better conclusion for the old republic than the rise of the skywalker?
OK
Warrior/knight is the best way to play this game - all the way through.
Considering _The World Between Worlds_ is a thing now in Disney Canon, and it establishes a sort of greater Star Wars multiverse, anyone else expecting The Emperor to try and pull a fast one and personally make the jump from legends to canon, legends history fully intact?
I can't wait for the good jedi master Palpatine of earth-87 to visit the main timeline and implore Luke to help him against the evil Yoda of earth-90 from conquering other universes
@@EternalEmperorofZakuul
_Star War: What If…._ That actually sounds like a show that not only can reasonably exist but would ABSOLUTELY make bank, especially since the idea was always popular enough ever since the prequel trilogy wrapped up.
@@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire which will lead to a multiversal war, like secret wars, and abstracts that rewrite the laws of the force
I really dont know how i fell about this expansion, what are your thoughs on tenebraes end kyrios ?
I wish it could have been a real expansion like KOTFE/KOTET, but I liked the way Tenebrae finally goes out, it is a rip off of Endgame but I thought it was a satisfying why to end Tenebrae’s story.
@@NefariousSpecter i dont understand why he died
I still really don’t think he’s fully dead like apart of me thinks he will come back
@@antman4671 That would be Pathetic
Antany Baines in EU lore, his presence doesn't leave the galaxy till ~60 BBY. He might not have had a corporeal firm anymore (I think) but he was still out there just existing. After this defeat, I'm sure he realized if his spirit takes anymore damage it will truly be destroyed forever and fall into chaos...
Bioware's writing is 1960s batman-level.
In what expansion does this happen ?
I am very confused. I just saw this cutscene out of the blue with no explanation. So I know that all three of those Sith Lords are one person but how are 3 of them living at the same time? Is vitiate just controlling all 3 or something? Or is it just the same dude in 3 bodies
Simple the player goes into Satele’s mind and Vitiate appears in his 3 forms
What expansion is this again
Which armor?
Untill he comes back as the main antagonist in the next star wars trilogy. ( I hope at least.) I'd actually like it if they make it that he truly is immortal and he has to be defeated every few millennia by the most powerful warriors at the time.
Or he could be sealed like ganondorf
He is not canon so no we will not see him in the films
@@BRG1807 Perhaps.
@@ConnorLonergan Anything can be made cannon again, just look at Thrawn.
@@wilberdebeer4696 yes but there would be changes. Not so much on the Charecter mind you but still diffrences that you can tell
4:00 me trying to get out of bed with painful gas
what happened leading up to this and why wasnt his other death final?
Essentially, long before the events of SWTOR and even the KotOR games, after taking the form of Vitiate, Tenebrae performed some kind of ritual on his now-discarded, original Sith Pureblooded body (the red guy shown in this cutscene) that imbued it with a fragment of his soul, kept dormant. It was a sort of backup system in the event he perished in one of his other bodies and his spirit was unable to take over a new one, which is what happened when we struck down his spirit at the end of KotET.
Kira and Scourge had uncovered and destroyed Tenebrae’s original body, but all that did was release some kind of plague that infected them and anyone else who tried to help them, the latter being Satele Shan and her new students. Kira and Scourge were able to overcome its effects because of their connection to Tenebrae, but Shan and the students weren’t so fortunate.
It turns out that fragment of his soul Tenebrae had imbued into the body dissolved into the plague, and it was infesting the minds of those unable to resist. The events of this update in-game are essentially the player characters teaming up with Kira and Scourge to go into the mindscape of Shan to confront and destroy this echo of Tenebrae for good before he can re-manifest into the physical galaxy.
@Arcadian Empire Horcruxes mate.😛
armor name???
RIP
"Sith emperor will not return". Palpatine seeing this: 😂
Palpatine’s reign didn’t even last 10 minutes compared to Vitiate
@@theemeraldenderman3007 seriously I mean seriously he controlled the galaxy for 19 years
@@tbphillips9649 actually it’s 36 years
Vitiate controlled the Sith Empire for 1500 years and the Zakull Empire for 300-1300 years
If I was Meetra I would be taking the time after defeating Vitiate to beat up Scourge for what he did to me.
Too bad Revan didn't make an presence in Fate of Jedi books
7:27 they weren’t already?
Where the F doi we go from here
Malgus, Mandalorian civil war, Jedi vs Sith
@@NefariousSpecter I'm looking to what Malgus might do, he has so much potential in the story.
5:37 YOUR privelege...is the DIRT!!!
the title should be final as of now😂
Such a cop out to kill him like this in some sort of semi-expansion
And people say that palpatine is on vitiate’s level? Oh please.
This is what Palpatine might have achieved with time, had he gotten any closer to success.
Vitiate was superior with the Force but Sidious is a better lightsaber duelist.
@@Facade953 and he was a better senate as well
Strong he was with the Dark Side, but not that strong!
I dont get it. Why did Vitiate, Tenebrae, and Valkorion turn into stone?
The power of all the people he manipulated, betrayed, and murdered combined their power to destroy his last vestiges. In the end, it was too much even for him to overcome.
Is this game worth trying out?
if you like a more story driven mmorpg, then yes
Tenebrae returned in the form of Palpatine.
How do you know my lord?
This malgus is fake
You forget one thing old man, YOU are not ME.
When a game that’s not canon can do Rise of Skywalker better than Rise of Skywalker
How does he have all 3 variants tenabre viatiate and valkorian there aren't they all the same person?
It’s sort of a splintered consciousness type thing because at times they act like separate people but other times carries out an entire conversation across his 3 variations
@@billmcdermott9647 oh thanks bro
It’s really him but as the other one said yeah
@@bullrun2772 thx
@@elminatorx-2560 yw
I don't give a shit what anyone says, Revan should have had the final kill on the emperor for all the hell he went through. He should have sacrificed himself for the win.
What is this from?
It’s literally in the title
@@OutOfIdeas9977 You know that there are expansions to the Old Republic game, right? But I figured out it's from the final expansion "Onslaught".
@@user-od7el8yc9k no not at all
@@OutOfIdeas9977 Then which expansion is it?
@@user-od7el8yc9k didn’t ask + don’t care + you literally said it
i dont get it why he died but ok
So the force killed him?
Yep
this is his what? third final death?
This is 7,8 an 9 final death
5:11 was that me unmasked there?
pls reply
Yes that was you unmasked my lord
@@OutOfIdeas9977yess
If they only knew darth vader 💀
Damn, imagine being the most powerful Sith Lord and you get killed by the power of friendship.
Still getting cucked as Inqusitor because they never show the other force ghosts in this cutscene due to writer either not caring about past story or not smh.Yes I kept my force ghosts Id like to be able to see those bitches, after all I went through 3 hour fucking quest chain for them.
Because new stories are made for jedi knight , yes you can play them as any of your characters but in the story , Darth Nox , Grand Chempion , Barsen'thor.etc are dead or missing .