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Matt. Even though,i am a retired Pro. Started back in 1970s, obviously film. 35mm,2 1/4, 4X5. I have down-sized to just the Leica M camera, for obvious reasons, mostly size and weight. Thank you for doing all the hard work,so we can make a educated purchase. Especially with the Digital cameras, which i will probably never get used to. Thanks again.
I replaced my CV 35/1.4 Nocton with a 35/2 Ultron II and very happy with the switch. To me size does matter with my M camera as I like it to be small and compact since the M10 and CV 35/2 Ultron II is always with me when out and about... Another great video Matt, Thanks again.
Thank you for this interesting, well done review. The Thypoch seems very compelling. Looking forward to your review of the 28mm version, and would love to see a comparison with the new Voigtlander Nokton 28mm f1.5 lens.
I would also consider the Voigtländer 35mm F1.2 in the group of lenses you mention here. It focuses down to 0.5m, and at F1.2 that means loads of delicious bokeh!😄
If you get a chance, please compare the Thypoch 28mm 1.4 vs the Voigtlander 28mm 1.5 just released… I love my Voigtlander lenses, was about to pull the trigger, but the Thypoch looks VERY tempting! Thank you in advance, and hope your new year is off to a great start,
I am glad Matt that you mentioned the problem of mounting lenses that jave been designed for the Leica M system, by using Sony cameras in particular and an adapter to other Mirrorless cameras. Sonys have a very thick glass filter on top the sensor that plays havoc with the midd frame to edge definition of the lens. Best use the lens for the camera it was designed for, I say.
Excellent and practical review, especially when comparing to the alternative lenses. One thing which I was hoping would be in this part (had been mentioned in the comments for Part 1) was how well the zone focusing features worked (with the old school depth of field scale). Were you zone focusing for the “shoot from the hip” photos ?
Thanks Michael! Yes you can use the DOF scale to zone focus. I think I dialed in like 3m when I did it. I find the normal lines much easier to see but that's just me.
Well interesting lens. I think it could be a good complement to my m240. The size is a little big but reminds my the combination of the Leica Q with its 28 f1.7.
Cool stuff, great lens for the price and with some funky features, seems they are some enthousiasts over at THypoch :) Nice compliment to LLL if doing street/landscape at larger apertures I guess.
There is a Voigtlander 35 mm 1.4 for the same price. The old one you have tested years ago. They are razor sharp. Don't know if it is a real upgrade. Thanks for sharing though
Thanks Rob, yes I mention at the end. It’s not sharp but it’s small. I sold mine and replaced with f2 Ultron which is much sharper. It was my softest Voigtlander 35 of 1.2, 1.7, 2, 2.5.. I used it fir years before that quite happily and on film too
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom ARTRALAB NONIKKOR-MC 35mm F1.4 1980's £305.00 It's available in L mount for your Leica SL too. Great review by the Phoblographer.
You noted the CV 35/1.5 as a potential alternative, but made no comment/comparison about it... haven't tried, or just didn't like? I'm curious because I have the CV 35/1.5, so would have made a good reference point. My biggest dislike about the CV is in how it handles shooting into the light, but the Thypoc seems much worse! Also, re the Thypoc's highlight halation/glow... does this go away when stopped down? I like this effect sometimes, but not ALL the time... Did you have any issues with the handling of the Thypoc? Another reviewer noted that the trick DOF scale uses up so much space on the lens barrel that the focusing ring had to be made skinny and pushed back toward the body; he found it difficult to grasp, and he hated the infinity lock. Anyway, thanks for all the work you put into evaluating this lens so thoroughly, and am looking forward to seeing something similar about the 28/1.4...
Thanks James, yes I didn't really bond with the CV 35mm 1.5 (See that video). As such I overlook it now I think. I's expect the Thypoch to be sharper wide open but just a guess and not sure about the light. I was happy with the handling. I get stressed less about such things if it works. I'd prefer it half the size but otherwise no complaints.
So is this Thypoch Simera 35/1.4 as good as the Voigtländer Ultron II 35/2 , which is a great lens btw? It looks interesting Matt, but at the same time, it's not a small lens. I prefer smaller lenses.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks - I watched the main review on the 35.5 but it seems like it has disappeared as a comparator in the recent 35 videos. (maybe b/c you don't like it, although your review seemed overall positive) Given it is increasingly becoming a more sought after "upgrade" from the 35.4 classic (especially the V1 being very light) - would love it being revisited or at least being included in the comparison - just a suggestion
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks for the reply Matt. Reason I ask is that I saw a thread on Reddit where he has an M2 + Simera 35mm, and the edges of the lens body is hitting the lens release button when it's mounted. I'm planning on getting a similar combo and wanted to make sure.
I have 2 35mm lenses , Zeiss you showed , yes heavy , and the Ultron 35 1.7 ; I love my Ultron 35mm in Brass with Brass hood , so beautifully smooth a pleasure in imaging and in the hand. You should test that 1.7 35mm ULTRON Matt , once held you will be in deep love. My desired Leica is the Bokeh King 35mm Pre Asph that is the only 35mm I need yet. Lovely place Valencia Spain .... I love the stone and architecture. Beautiful.
Hi Oliver, if you're a regular viewer hopefully you know the answer to that question. I try to keep this videos shorter and mostly info but I should have included, "they sent me this lens to test but it's my own opinions given". No they don't pay. Like other brands they just push out new products to all the influencers and ask them to make a review to help with the launch).
I decided to pick up an Ultron as a stand in while I send out my Nokton classic for service. It was a smart thing to do to replace my "walk around lens", but this does looks fantastic as a portrait setup.
The two "P's", presentations and photography, you are great at them both. That 35 seems a good lens at a really good price. Thanks for the work in putting up the review.
Think of cameras as being the same for any M lens. Some cameras are known to be poor like Sony, my S5 seems nearly as good as the SL which is nearly as good as M cameras. General rule. Haven’t used this lens on these cameras*
Wow, thanks Matt. I’m really interested on your thoughts on the 28. I can’t explain it but I think I prefer the rendering of the 28….and this is from a person who prefers a 35. It just feels a touch dreamier to me and appears a touch sharper at 1.4.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom , i just purchased the Voightlander 35mm F1.7. Thanks for your awesome review. It looks like it hits the sweet spot in size for a fast walk around lens which is SHARP! :-)
Possibly as it’s not overly heavy. Pretty sure it contains brass too as I know how light pure alu lenses are and it’s not that. 300+g means some brass I think. It’s nice and smooth like any good lens.
I have nothing to say about this lens. Just wanted to say this is the only photography channel where I’m not banned. Very proud of that fact. 😅 Edit: I just saw some people taking about the Nokton II 35. Yea I’ve been really happy with it. Not as smooth to focus as my Summicron, but it doesn’t matter where I point it, I get this dreamy soft but sharp look, even closed down depending on the light. It’s a beautiful lens. It’s so tiny and light it makes the camera tilt back when it’s hanging on the strap.
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Matt. Even though,i am a retired Pro. Started back in 1970s, obviously film. 35mm,2 1/4, 4X5. I have down-sized to just the Leica M camera, for obvious reasons, mostly size and weight. Thank you for doing all the hard work,so we can make a educated purchase. Especially with the Digital cameras, which i will probably never get used to. Thanks again.
Thanks Robert, I'm glad it was useful for you.
I love your real-world lens reviews, everything I need to know in a short, concise, enjoyable format. Thanks Matt.
Thanks! I try to share what info I need when I look for a lens
I replaced my CV 35/1.4 Nocton with a 35/2 Ultron II and very happy with the switch. To me size does matter with my M camera as I like it to be small and compact since the M10 and CV 35/2 Ultron II is always with me when out and about... Another great video Matt, Thanks again.
Thanks, yes i'm with you 100% Size matters!
Thank you for this interesting, well done review. The Thypoch seems very compelling. Looking forward to your review of the 28mm version, and would love to see a comparison with the new Voigtlander Nokton 28mm f1.5 lens.
Thanks! Yes I have both lenses coming out to me so that video is on my list.
Super Test and a lot of good images. Can't wait for your 28mm test and samples images.
Thanks Grom! Yes waiting to receive the 28mm now!
I would also consider the Voigtländer 35mm F1.2 in the group of lenses you mention here. It focuses down to 0.5m, and at F1.2 that means loads of delicious bokeh!😄
Yes the 1.2 would be my choice for portraits especially
If you get a chance, please compare the Thypoch 28mm 1.4 vs the Voigtlander 28mm 1.5 just released…
I love my Voigtlander lenses, was about to pull the trigger, but the Thypoch looks VERY tempting!
Thank you in advance, and hope your new year is off to a great start,
I’ve got the Voigtlander 28 on me now to test. Waiting on the Thypoch still. Videos to come!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom - Fantastic!! Can't wait to see it!!
I am glad Matt that you mentioned the problem of mounting lenses that jave been designed for the Leica M system, by using Sony cameras in particular and an adapter to other Mirrorless cameras. Sonys have a very thick glass filter on top the sensor that plays havoc with the midd frame to edge definition of the lens. Best use the lens for the camera it was designed for, I say.
Thanks, yes this is what I hear using these sorts of lenses on some non-Leica cameras.
Excellent and practical review, especially when comparing to the alternative lenses. One thing which I was hoping would be in this part (had been mentioned in the comments for Part 1) was how well the zone focusing features worked (with the old school depth of field scale). Were you zone focusing for the “shoot from the hip” photos ?
Thanks Michael! Yes you can use the DOF scale to zone focus. I think I dialed in like 3m when I did it. I find the normal lines much easier to see but that's just me.
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks Matt !
Well interesting lens. I think it could be a good complement to my m240. The size is a little big but reminds my the combination of the Leica Q with its 28 f1.7.
Yes nice lens, agree a bit big for me (I tend to use a small 28/2.8 but if you need the Q speed it works).
Cool stuff, great lens for the price and with some funky features, seems they are some enthousiasts over at THypoch :) Nice compliment to LLL if doing street/landscape at larger apertures I guess.
Thanks Thomas, yes good if need wide open sharpness, especially for film.
There is a Voigtlander 35 mm 1.4 for the same price. The old one you have tested years ago.
They are razor sharp. Don't know if it is a real upgrade.
Thanks for sharing though
Thanks Rob, yes I mention at the end. It’s not sharp but it’s small. I sold mine and replaced with f2 Ultron which is much sharper. It was my softest Voigtlander 35 of 1.2, 1.7, 2, 2.5.. I used it fir years before that quite happily and on film too
Yep, I have the V2. Sharp, especially in the center, and definitely sharp stopped down, but lots of character. Small, too!
Artralab might be worth a look to. The Nocturne 1.2/50 in Leica-M.
Thanks! A Patreon mentioned that to me tonight too!
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@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom ARTRALAB NONIKKOR-MC 35mm F1.4 1980's £305.00
It's available in L mount for your Leica SL too.
Great review by the Phoblographer.
Hi thank you very much, I am wanting for the test on 28mm F1.4 and the newer 28mm F1.5 form Voigtlander this January 24.
Thanks! Yes! I'm due to receive both so stay tuned!
You noted the CV 35/1.5 as a potential alternative, but made no comment/comparison about it... haven't tried, or just didn't like? I'm curious because I have the CV 35/1.5, so would have made a good reference point. My biggest dislike about the CV is in how it handles shooting into the light, but the Thypoc seems much worse! Also, re the Thypoc's highlight halation/glow... does this go away when stopped down? I like this effect sometimes, but not ALL the time...
Did you have any issues with the handling of the Thypoc? Another reviewer noted that the trick DOF scale uses up so much space on the lens barrel that the focusing ring had to be made skinny and pushed back toward the body; he found it difficult to grasp, and he hated the infinity lock.
Anyway, thanks for all the work you put into evaluating this lens so thoroughly, and am looking forward to seeing something similar about the 28/1.4...
Thanks James, yes I didn't really bond with the CV 35mm 1.5 (See that video). As such I overlook it now I think. I's expect the Thypoch to be sharper wide open but just a guess and not sure about the light. I was happy with the handling. I get stressed less about such things if it works. I'd prefer it half the size but otherwise no complaints.
So is this Thypoch Simera 35/1.4 as good as the Voigtländer Ultron II 35/2 , which is a great lens btw? It looks interesting Matt, but at the same time, it's not a small lens. I prefer smaller lenses.
Thanks Marc, I prefer small too so I'll likely use my Ultron.
Please do a video on new 28mm from voigtlander f1.5 vs thypoch 1.4.
It's on my list, just waiting on the lenses. Coming soon!
Missed the 7artisans 35mm 1.4 your reviewed in the comparison - any thoughts?
Sorry there are so many lenses, I limited the list to the best performers. 7A is sharper than old 1.4 Nokton v1. See that video
If you are talking about the Wen f1.4, it's very sharp, but the CA is insane.
How would you compare image quality of nokton 35 1.5 vintage line vs ultron 35 2.0, both at 2.0? Curious why you are not using 1.5 as much
Please see those videos. I didn't really like the 1.5 so I use the Ultron or the LLL 35/2
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom thanks - I watched the main review on the 35.5 but it seems like it has disappeared as a comparator in the recent 35 videos. (maybe b/c you don't like it, although your review seemed overall positive) Given it is increasingly becoming a more sought after "upgrade" from the 35.4 classic (especially the V1 being very light) - would love it being revisited or at least being included in the comparison - just a suggestion
@@seu6 thanks, in later videos (in general) I normally compare to lenses I own (as I can test side by side). If I don’t own the lens I can’t.
Does this lens fit older film bodies like the M2?
Yes ofc. All M lenses fit all M cameras
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom Thanks for the reply Matt. Reason I ask is that I saw a thread on Reddit where he has an M2 + Simera 35mm, and the edges of the lens body is hitting the lens release button when it's mounted. I'm planning on getting a similar combo and wanted to make sure.
I have 2 35mm lenses , Zeiss you showed , yes heavy , and the Ultron 35 1.7 ; I love my Ultron 35mm in Brass with Brass hood , so beautifully smooth a pleasure in imaging and in the hand. You should test that 1.7 35mm ULTRON Matt , once held you will be in deep love. My desired Leica is the Bokeh King 35mm Pre Asph that is the only 35mm I need yet.
Lovely place Valencia Spain .... I love the stone and architecture. Beautiful.
Thanks Chris, I like both theses lenses. I often think about getting a Distagon.. Please see my old 35mm f1.7 rave review!
Many reviews were published around the same time. Can I ask if this was a paid gig? Is this then truthfully done?
Hi Oliver, if you're a regular viewer hopefully you know the answer to that question. I try to keep this videos shorter and mostly info but I should have included, "they sent me this lens to test but it's my own opinions given". No they don't pay. Like other brands they just push out new products to all the influencers and ask them to make a review to help with the launch).
f/1116!
Puzzling how they could make such a great-looking lens and yet do that.
Yes a little too close together. Probably easier to make that way, that's why they did it.
Great review…. I think I will stick with my 35mm LLL but interested in the 28mm and how it compares with the new voigtlander
Thanks, yes 28s coming soon!
Love my LLL 50 mm Panchro. 8 Element 35 mm looks great, too.
I decided to pick up an Ultron as a stand in while I send out my Nokton classic for service. It was a smart thing to do to replace my "walk around lens", but this does looks fantastic as a portrait setup.
I love the ultron. It replaced my Nokton 1.4
The two "P's", presentations and photography, you are great at them both. That 35 seems a good lens at a really good price. Thanks for the work in putting up the review.
Thanks Sandy!
Thanks for the video! What about using these Thypoch 28 & 35mm on your Lumix S5? Do you get problems with corner smearing?
Think of cameras as being the same for any M lens. Some cameras are known to be poor like Sony, my S5 seems nearly as good as the SL which is nearly as good as M cameras. General rule. Haven’t used this lens on these cameras*
Wow, thanks Matt. I’m really interested on your thoughts on the 28. I can’t explain it but I think I prefer the rendering of the 28….and this is from a person who prefers a 35. It just feels a touch dreamier to me and appears a touch sharper at 1.4.
Thanks Greg! Yes I’m waiting for my copy and have a trip planned ready to test it! Stay tuned!
@@MattOsborne-MrLeicaCom , i just purchased the Voightlander 35mm F1.7. Thanks for your awesome review. It looks like it hits the sweet spot in size for a fast walk around lens which is SHARP! :-)
Another reviewer claimed the focusing mechanism was made from aluminium, any thoughts on that Matt?
Possibly as it’s not overly heavy. Pretty sure it contains brass too as I know how light pure alu lenses are and it’s not that. 300+g means some brass I think. It’s nice and smooth like any good lens.
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Thanks!
I have nothing to say about this lens. Just wanted to say this is the only photography channel where I’m not banned. Very proud of that fact. 😅
Edit: I just saw some people taking about the Nokton II 35. Yea I’ve been really happy with it. Not as smooth to focus as my Summicron, but it doesn’t matter where I point it, I get this dreamy soft but sharp look, even closed down depending on the light. It’s a beautiful lens. It’s so tiny and light it makes the camera tilt back when it’s hanging on the strap.
Thanks Carlos haha. Yes the 1.4 is popular esp. for a less modern look.