Bruins President Cam Neely Said What About Swayman!? | SDP
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- Опубліковано 1 жов 2024
- Steve Dangle, Adam Wylde and Jesse Blake discuss the spicy comments made by Bruins President Cam Neely in regards to how contract negotiations are currently going with starting goaltender Jeremy Swayman.
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It's time for Toronto fans to artificially inflate Swayman's next deal. When Marner was expiring 5 years ago Boston fans, and even Marchand, kept hyping him up to the media. Time to return the favour
Other teams would pay up to have Swayman locked up long term. I think he holds out. If Boston didn't table that offer to Swayman's representatives, I wouldn't be surprised if the next thing to come from his representatives is a Lawsuit. Just by his agent's comments by waiting a few days and see what options are available. That means meeting with Lawyers and taking their advice. He also has the same agent as Nylander so we already know Swayman doesn't sign for under his number
What?
Helping a bruin get paid! You are a gentleman and a scholar
Yeah Swayman is the BEST goalie in the world. Bruins should pay him 15M and not a penny less!!! Go Leafs Go!
Haha. I like your thinking.
Bruins wanted the shorter term deal. Swayman wants the full 8-years.
His agent (Lewis Gross, who you guys know from Nylander) has come out and said that this was the first time the 64 million figure was brought up. They were never presented with a contract that high.
So, 1 of 2 things is really happening here. Either:
1. The Bruins never presented this offer before mouthing off at a press conference and are therefore terrible at negotiating and would be outing themselves as the most bad-faith management team in the league.
Or:
2. The Bruins did present his agent with the $64 million offer and he declined without presenting it to Swayman and is now trying to save face by saying they never got it
Which do you think is more likely?
I'm hoping the agent rejected it. Otherwise my fandom of Sway is really declining at this point 😂
I’m thinking his agent is a sleezeball
It always comes down to Gross' fault doesn't it, especially after Nylander and DeBrusk
Are you kidding? They want to lock him up at less than market value now. He knows a 2-3 year deal is better for him and WAY worse for the Bruins, because they don't want to have to give him a massive raise or look for a new starter in 2-3 years.
@@garthd7145 the offer is actually above market value.
Boston front office is incredibly unprofessional and petty.
They expect every player to take a “home town deal” so their billionaire owner can buy ANOTHER yacht
Literally there is a reason no UFAs resign in boston and the reason why they're always scraping together a depth roster of borderline AHL lifers and guys desperate to hang on in the league and they have to lean into "big bad bruins" identity. It's the only people who are cheap enough.
8x8 is a great deal. He hasn’t done a bloody thing to prove he’s worth anymore than that. Smh.
It's funny how all of you just uncritically accepted Cam Neely's statement without any information from Swayman's camp. "Neely said it. Has to be true."
Meanwhile, as you surely know now, Swayman's agent is denying there was *ever* an 8x8 contract offer.
🎵Swayman, Swayman, Swayman! . . . Keep that Swayman blamin'! . . . Rawhide! . . . 🎵
Korpi’s not a terrible goalie, but he’s also not an incredible goalie. Regardless, it’s worth mentioning he does hold the record for most saves in a NHL game. That has to count for something
hes like samsonov but even more volatile
THG made a great video about how other players get payed on protentional while goalies don't I'm with swayman pay goalies what their worth.
Great clip boys. Love the TOR-BOS crossover
Last time I remember a GM doing this was of course Marc Bergevin saying he gave Markov and Radulov take it or leave it offers. And then it later came out when he found out Radulov was taking Dallas' offer he tried to match it.
I'm definitely on Swayman's side. Maybe the Bruins can compromise and give him that 64 mil for a 3 year deal. Then maybe he'd have 64 mil reasons to play
so you're gonna give Swayman 21.5 million a year?? not even McDavid is getting that much!! That's what 64 mil is over 3 years...
More like Fallout BOY! 😂😂
I want my team to win. Yes. I also want players to be as aggressive as humanly possible when negotiating for their contracts. I DO NOT want players to take a cut so my team can win. Why? Because players have a salary cap, owners don't have a profit cap. That's why. If a good player walks away because of money, that's how it goes.
You need 20 guys under contract. You can't pay half of them $10 per and compete.
Jesse hits the nail on the head. Can you I imagine if Toronto had the balls to say no to one of the big 3? Sorry 4 now.
Kaprizov's contract was for 5 years, not 8
Cam went all Harry Sinden.... love it.
Absolutely in Swayman's corner on this. Is anyone going to reasonably argue he's less valuable than Sorokin today, let alone from ages 25-33 vs 29-37 when these deals would run in parallel? If I'm Sway I'd consider accepting both 1yr QO and walking to UFA. You lose 6-8M during those 2 RFA years but you make an additional 18M+ in the same timeframe. Or just wait until Shesterkin signs for 12M and take Boston to Arb in the final RFA year.
Swayman would be a FOOL to sign an 8x8M deal. He'd be signing away SIX years of free agency for an AAV that is below market value for him today.
If Boston wants him for eight years the AAV has to be eight figures.
Jesse "Toe" Blake with his pro management stance lol. Love it guys, great snippet!
For some reason Adam is negative against European players and always positive against Canadian and American.
Oh boy, Adam. 8x8 not enough for a goalie whose numbers dropped when he played 7 more games the next season and has not yet played 55 games in one season. When he does, his numbers will drop again.
And you think he’s owed more? Whoever ends up paying him $10M or more… imagine the pressure on him if he gets off to a slow start?
Here’s the Bruins bad boy play. On December 2nd you trade him to Utah for their first pick. He gets zero for one year of his career and ends up on an absolutely crap team. Bruins get a #1.
Steve nailed it. Are you fan or the player? I am a Sens fan, always will be. MY NAME is on my jerseys because I will never be traded. Its not that I am not a fan of the players, but I am more a fan of the team.
Trading ullmark before signing swayman was such a rookie move it's hard not to be on Swayman's side
Sway is worth $8 or $8.5 the bruins have left to spend x however many years he agrees to. He isn't worth more at this point. Bruins fan opinions are souring fast. If he sits out a season just to make $8m more on the contract, he loses $8m for the season, so what is the benefit??
so I watched the press conference to open the season, Swayman was obviously the focal point of discussion. The way Neely and Sweeney put it essentially says that the Bruins are a cup contender with or without Swayman...if this is the case, then the Bruins have 2 options - you either pay Swayman what he wants on the term he wants, or you trade him and get a large haul in return that tells us Bruins fans that you have a plan for the path forward as the legacy generation transitions out and into the youth taking over (and this is after Marchy retires when I say the youth take the reigns)
Can you imagine siting across a table negotiating with Neely? Guy looks like he would be pissed off and more then willing to say why at his own wedding. My guess is this is just part of the game that is contract talks.
Boston might have been able to pull that contract off before they traded ullmark but Boston has no leverage right now, any team will scoop him up for that
Don't mess with Sea Bass... We've already seen what he almost did to Jim Carey in that bathroom stall
"The guy in the blue suit" is the Bruins owner Jeremy Jacobs
EDIT: That's actually CEO Charlie Jacobs, Jeremy's son. They look so much alike. Shout out to commenter below who corrected me.
Son^
@@leonardoferrulli2561 Right, sorry, that's CEO Charlie Jacobs, Jeremy's son. They look so much alike.
Im not sure goalies should be signed long term as a general rule but Neely’s outburst cost them in negotiations at least short term but hey Neely felt better in the moment. I’d never put him in front of microphone again
$12 million for 2 goalies, or $40 for 4 skaters....hmmmm......
Matt Murray use to be that guy now he’s a guy. Swaymann could be a Matt Murray story
They did need to trade ullmark. Both goalies wanted starter games
I just want the Bruins to win Swayman can stay or leave. Means nothing to me. 8 for 8 is a good deal.
There’s only a couple goalies worth 8 million a year in this league and he’s not one of them.
As a Bs fan, IF 8x8 was the offer, he should have signed on the spot. I’d bet $64mil it’s his dbag agent. I suspect Leaf fans know what I’m talking about.
Swayman cant sign for 8 million at 8 years. The odds he turns into a 10-12 million dollar goalie in the next 2-3 years is to big.
Toronto should offer sheet him 9.5 mill over 7 years!!!
Do it !!! Make Boston match it
I don’t get why Swayman thinks he’s worth so much? He’s had one good year. It wasn’t exceptional. They didn’t go deep in the playoffs. He played tandem with Ullmark all year. He hasn’t actually been tested enough. If he wants big money, he needs to sign a 2 year contract and play like an elite goalie, then negotiate again with the new salary cap.
He wasn’t the reason they lost in the playoffs. He’s had insane stats. He has a good case for why, plus he’s only 25
He's had a few good years, posting a .914 (41 games), .920 (37 games), and a .916 (44 games) in three Accrued Seasons, with a .922 in his career playoff stats across 20 games. He won the Jennings in 22-23. He has yet to have a *bad* year.
Shesterkin got 4x5.6M ($6M in today's cap dollars) with a little over 1/3 of the games played (47 games to Swayman's 122). Boston has to expect to pay Swayman more given his record.
I just don’t agree. I don’t think he’s played enough to justify more than he’s been offered. 8x8 is way more than shesterkin.
It's not what he thinks, it is all up to his agent, who is a pissy prick stuck up about his cut.
Swayman wants long term guaranteed money, his agent wants more than what Boston can pay to complete their roster.
Why are you taking swipes at Swayman? HE AGREES WITH YOU. The Bruins don't want him to sign a two-year contract. They want him to sign eight years. Swayman is the one who wants to go short.
Neely Neely Neely woooo that was awesome
Buddy sway has 130 games. Saros just signed for 7.5 hellybuck 8.5 so sway 8 is the right deal
Ya, no way this guy deserves more than a double Vesina winner.
@@aniyn he’s 7.5-8. If he wants to sign at 4 years fine that’s his gamble that’s what I’d do if I were Sweeney.
Adam should do a lil research
It’s hard listening to you guys at times. Zero clue.
Jesse is spot on
Marner n swayman have the same agent
lol
Swaymans record show's he is over priced. You have to have a couple 82 game seasons under your belt to get good money
8x8 sways. Gross is a clown
7.25 x 3 or 4. Other wise, milk it until Dec. 2nd. Then trade him. Hasn't even proved himself to be an $8 mill. goalie. And he wants 10 ???
If ur sick please take days off it’s annoying hearing the sickness in the voice 😭🤣😭( I just got over the sickness)
Jesse being an idiot? Shocker.
Jesse is wrong the cap is going up this is in line with what he will be worth
The cap going up can't be used as a reason for every player to get paid more... It's only going up a little each season. Sway, at $8m, would be the 5th highest active goalie salary. That alone is a bump in goalie values as he has only been a 1B so far. Just because the cap goes up doesn't mean you pay Swayman the highest goalie salary based on a small career sample size.
You don’t pay someone hoping that they will live up to it. You pay some for what they have done.
@@mike8099m Except teams are signing promising young skaters coming out of their ELCs or entering an RFA season for 7 & 8 year deals for huge money assuming they'll live up to the money and terms. For whatever reason, rightly or wrongly, it's the opposite in the goalie market.
@@keithck3720 guys like faber or Sanderson etc showed they were good enough for those contracts. Goalies are up and down every other year. If a forward sucks you can drop him down a couple lines when a goalie sucks your screwed.
@@mike8099m Yet a goalie is the most important player on the team in the sense that he can absolutely steal a game and t's a fact that goalies are underpaid compared to their skater counterparts.
FWIW, I'm not saying Swayman is worth the alleged $10 million he's asking for. $8 million is fair but we really don't know what the terms and AAV are so I'm not in a place to judge.