Argentina is EVERYTHING Brazil is not! - Ale Moreno | ESPN FC
Вставка
- Опубліковано 5 чер 2024
- The ESPN FC panel discusses Argentina's 2-0 win over Peru in the FIFA World Cup Qualifiers, both of which goals were scored by Lionel Messi.
----
Subscribe to ESPN UK: bit.ly/1oGUzVA
Follow ESPN UK across multiple platforms:
/ espnuk
/ espnuk
www.espn.co.uk/ - Спорт
![PERÚ vs. ARGENTINA [0-2] | RESUMEN | ELIMINATORIAS SUDAMERICANAS | FECHA 3](/img/n.gif)
gustavo mentioning that brazilian fans wanted to see messi win the copa america despite the rivalry between brazil and argentina. that’s something only the GOAT can do🐐
Imagine Spain fans rooting for portugal to win the euros 🤣 The world would end first
@@UnfeelingMonsterit's not the same. Messi is far greater than CR7 and has a world cup in his bag now
cap
@@romaineeasyréality fangay
@@zakariadjouzi660 wake up and stop glazing
Messi transcends the sport...everyone true football fan loves him
that would mean ronaldo fans aren’t even football fans and just are gay for him which i can believe
@@anonymous2428 this has nothing to do with Ronaldo. I think you’re the gay one, cause Ronaldo lives in your head rent free.
@@eduardoramos7423 i’m just pointing out the fact that ronaldo fans aren’t football fans since they hate messi. and im not gay cause i have a gf :) edit: i didn’t even mention ronaldo i mentioned his fans😂
@@anonymous2428 this still has nothing to do Ronaldo fans, they are only talking about Messi.
@@anonymous2428Yeah they aren't football fans because you dont have to hate messi to love ronaldo. But you can love one of the other more. Anyone who hates messi or ronaldo aren't football fans.
I remember how disappointing that Argentina squad was from 2014-2020, that team failed Messi and Argentina numerous times, it’s good to finally see him with a squad he deserves.
2018
I feel the same with Ronaldo. His squad in 2008-14 failed him and Portugal numerous times
@@luiscaetano6184both have never had good and balanced squad until now,its the main reason CR7 had a hard time with national team in WCs and its why Messi in 2014 was basically palying as an 8 and 10 hence why he was so deep and was barely getting in the six yard box. Ive always said to truly win u need a competent team, but they did carry their teams as best as they could, Messi took them to 3 finals ina row(1 WC 2 Copas) but lost cause one player can only take u so far in the end u need the other guys to step up(am talking to u Gonzalo Higuain)
@@zwelethumahlalela8685 There are similarities between the two, but the key is Messi took Argentina to 4 finals. CR only to 1, and he did have a good team that time.
They only had badluck, between 2014-2020 Argentina reached 3 finals, two of them they lost on penaltys and one in extratime.
My father is in his late 60’s and he said he’s never witnessed a team play as cohesively as this team does. Maradona is his idol but he’s mesmerized by this team. Let’s all enjoy this while it last.
Yes, this Argentina team is very special and we are lucky to have witnessed this team. And it definitely makes it easier for other players when the God of football is playing with you. Impossible is nothing when Messi is on the pitch.
and what i like most about this team is that this team is very dynamic in attack. Sometimes they attack fast sometimes they attack slow but they never look out of balance and make it look so easy
Maradona was the greatest force in the game ever sadly a short lived light he won it alone and Italian league to this is a great a team
@@audie-cashstack-uk4881 Maradona won it alone 😂 😂He is the most overrated player! I can write essay how Maradona was overrated! Media hype him up just like your brain from your dad!
@@sanman9441 brining a country to win 2 World Cup is overrated lol go write your essay and let everyone see your foolishness. What a clown you are 🤡 . Probably think Ronaldo is the greatest of all time 😂
Pure magic the whole teams plays and gel, together they have a combination of old and youth which really makes the whole game enjoyable to watch.
That's exactly what I always said. Nobody realised it but scaloni made a perfect transition to the youth players like enzo alvarez macallister and yet keeping messi in the centre and giving him all freedom which didn't even disturb the transition. This is the thing barca couldn't do when messi was rumoured to come back. So many fans said messi coming will disturb the transition but it won't if you knew how to do it. AND YET Argentina doesn't suffer when messi ain't available. There are always players who can give them the win. Scaloni is a very underhyped and underrated coach imo unlike the likes of pochettino or luis enrique who are overrated af.
It's more about their chemistry and passion that makes them stand out among other countries. Spain in 2010 and Brazil in 2002 are probably the only countries that kind of rival them in the chemistry department. Their style is defined by their chemistry mostly. It's an unorthodox 4-3-3 or an unorthodox 4-4-2 or a 3-5-2 with one basic principle which is to cater to Messi's style of play whether it means giving the ball to him in those danger zones or compensating for his defensive work rate or making runs behind him.
Another reason why I say that this team is based on their mutual chemistry is because every player has that clarity over their role. Lo Celso was injured, Parades and Lautaro were out of form, in came Enzo, Alexis and Alvarez with very limited international experience and they turned the fortunes of that team into the WC. Even yesterday Argentina played without a DM, Alexis was playing as the last man holding the midfield even if that was not his preferred position but he grasped the role well and had a good game.
Huge credit to Scaloni for his tactics and man management. Imagine how he would have felt when Diego Maradona said he was not an ideal coach for Argentina, he's probably the most successful coach and probably the only national team coach who got the best out of Messi ( shoutout to Sabella though )
Despite for the Golden Generation for Argentina, it was not the actual end for this
I agree with almost everything but the chemistry of Brazil 2002, not that it wasn't great but just that the chemistry of Spain and Argentina was a bit better imo. What Brazil 2002 had was organized Chaos because they were so good individually they didn't really need as much chemistry as Spain and Argentina. It was like a bunch of street ballers coming together playing samba which this current team is trying to emulate but doesn't have the quality for.
@@SkalawaswarmyI agree that the 2002 Brazil team was big on individual skill, R9's monster WC being the biggest key to their success. The man was totally unplayable.
Brazil did drop player like Romário prior to the tournament to help build chemistry. There are some solid points to be made about that 2002 Brazil team having excellent chemistry much like this current Argentina squad.
@@pulleyfm8585 Yes I agree and never denied that they had chemistry but in comparison to Argentina and Spain they had less of it because they were so good individually but without losing chemistry. It was almost like an organized chaos.
wonderful take
God bless Messi and Argentina's national team. Divine empowerment to them for more wins.
They especially messi suffered a lot until scaloni came. I am happy that argentina are finally in a good place and they deserve every success. Most importantly there's not one selfish player who craves for individual glory except for maybe garnacho who anyways doesn't play much under scaloni. Their bonding is very strong.
Pray for those struggling in Palestine and Isreal. Not some football puppets for fools entertainment.....
I will never ever understand the british's gripe with Otamendi. He's so good. He's been good for Benfica and outstanding for Argentina. He was even good with Manchester City, I don't understand why they dog on him so much lol.
Samee
He had one bad season. Premier league fans like to ride others misery. So there you go
Otamendi is an intresting situation. At city he was average in 2018 world cup he was also overrated. Pep saw something in him but just could not quite get it out of him, maybe due to his ability.
Him and Romero are one of the best central pairing in the national team world. Thats a fact
He's good but has his moments. Quite a few of them actually. Let's not forget that he was at fault for the first penalty against France in the final of the world cup. It was a silly penalty to concede.
So strange watching WC Qualifiers when the previous WC felt like it just ended very recently. Maybe that's the effect of a winter WC
The thing is, Argentina plays for Messi. Like those guys will go to war for him.
Yeah, I think it's for the country just as much Messi. From talking to fans of La Albiceleste that I know.
Which shows they should move on. Better without him. Play as a team not for one 🍔 mls guy
@@amda7882 dude get a life. You are in every comment hating on messi. Looks like he traumatised your idol or club too much🤣🤣
cry@@amda7882
@@uguarte606It's been hilarious to see Penaldo fans in their infinite misery after the WC.
Congratulations Messi For Ballon D'Or 2023,Of Course You Deserve It, Because You Did So Well ❤⚽️🇦🇷
🇦🇷 🇦🇷 Argentina doesn’t have great one-of-generation players besides Messi & Di Maria; however, the chemistry & spirit among the players seem off the chart 😮💨
Alvarez is a genius as well. Enzo isn't that far behind.
@@maddyx3711alvarez is average imo enzo the other hand is great
Crazy how after the WC in 2018, it seemed like the end of a tumultuous journey that was Messi with the Argentina NT. just seemed like it was never gonna happen.. Who wouldve thought after all that heartbreak and disappointing momemts, they would go on to experience one of the most prosperous eras for El Albiceleste.
*la* albiceleste gringo bobo
Football like in Life, it always puts you in the place you deserve, It takes a while but you get there and cream always rises to the top.
Absolutely! This era of Argentina studies their opponents and adapts in any way possible.. They play cohesively, well gelled and knows what they are doing..
And the most important thing, they've got Messi.. Even if he's way past his prime, It seems Scaloni is the only Manager who makes Messi play a little bit like Vintage Messi
He Understands Messi so well and that's what will help them possibly win Copa America next year
Messi is not past his prime
Just before 2020 it was all opposite for Argentina. Time heals everything if you go to right direction ❤❤❤
Argentina play with more freedom after winning world cup.. no more burden of trying to winning the world cup...bring on Copa 2024...the other best team in the world at the moment are those French blues. Messi and mbappe will return in 2026
Messi showed his world class
Messi is beyond all disputes and rivalries. He wants football to unite people and not force them to argue and quarrel among themselves. That's why Messi doesn't stir up controversy. Argentina vs Brazil, Boca Juniors vs River Plate, Messi vs Maradona, Messi vs Ronaldo. He is neutral everywhere. Yes, but probably not in El Classico. Although. he always speaks well about Real Madrid and Real Madrid players. He even communicated normally with Ramos. This is cool
Also, because of his relationship with other Brazilian players like Dinho, Alves, Neymar, Silvinho, Coutinho etc, not to mention his love for S.American football.
Scaloni is an absolute genius.
He took an incoherent team and made them UNSTOPPABLE by analysing the opponent, completely limiting their chances and creating opportunities for Leo Messi to do what Leo Messi does best (win games and titles) and it's paying off similarly to how it payed off in prime Barca 2009-2011.
In reality Holland and France were SOOO fortune to have a chance in their games vs Argentina. If Argentina can get taller faster defenders to stop opposing headers and limit their fouls around and in the box they will be UNBEATABLE.
I agree mostly but no team is unbeatable. Just a bad Day or bad luck with referee or bad luck in front of the goal and you lose.
@user-bb9kj4ez2g like against Saudi Arabia in the opening match of the world cup but that's the only lose argentina has since like 2019
Messi and Argentina will walk through that Copa America next year and Messi will walk off into the sunset as the inarguable, undeniable and undisputed greatest to ever grace a football field.
You think he’ll retire after the Copa? Me too he’ll be 39 next WC too old imo
@@amda7882he can do it at 39
He'll play in the World Cup as it's in the USA and he's focused on Qualifying. The only question here is will he be physically ready to? I think it will be his last act in football before retirement and you can only pray to see him grace the World stage one last time.
It's crazy what hardwork and structure and a proper coach does in life it was only a few years ago no one felt that arg would amount to anything considering how they always fell short
Scaloni deserves so much credit for everything the past few years. From the lack of support when he began, to adapting his coaching to best fit Messi, breaking through in Brazil in 2021, and the world cup last year. What a ride it has been
♥️Brazilians♥️have always been enchanted by beautiful football🔥So, no surprise to hear that they would cheer for Messi even when he plays against their current national team 🤏
Messi doesn’t need a penalty or tap in. He is fball in himself. Even when he don’t score, people enjoy because he has everything
Imagine they go one better than Spain 2 EUs and 1 WC (2008-2012) and win 2 straight CAs and WCs, the 2nd of each both in USA 🏆🏆🏆🏆
Its very possible only problem they’ll have is England and France if they cross paths at the WC
@@notboutit888Beating England isn't a big issue. Yes theoretically Only England & France can challenge them but not atleast as a team. England is fairly new in team building & as like Every WC they choke.
The main rival of Argentina is France right now.
@@notboutit888 England have played in 0 of 35 WC/Euro finals outside of Wembley, Czechia/Russia have 4 finals on foreign soil, Portugal 2, Greece/Denmark 1. They’ve done nothing to prove they’re more likely than those to challenge, I’d argue Portugal have shown to be much closer
With penalty Argentina anything is possible!
@@darknebula455 england is building squad of young talents and they have enough time and challanges for 2026 worldcup ,they sure are a tough opponent for argentina after france, i heard there is match coming between ARG and ENG lets see
the whole team played so well, they definitely deserve to win the copa
I feel so much pride with this team. There is an amount of certainty and invincibility. Like I had no doubt in my mind they will win this game. It felt inevitable. Being a fan of Argentina since being born in the auspicious year of 1986, I never felt this amount of confidence about an Argentina team. Most importantly, they play beautiful football. Football is entertainment. Brazil and some European teams have forgotten it, Argentina have not. La Nuestra is still going strong.
But this team still has one Achilles heel. Exposed by Netherlands and France, even the Saudis. They sort of stop playing later on in the game if they are leading. Scaloni makes unnecessarily defensive substitutions unbalancing the chemistry. If the opposition attacks ruthlessly and relentlessly, the defense falls apart in complete chaos.
Instead, the matches against Italy and Croatia should be how it's done. Stay on the front foot. Keep the pressure piling. Counterattack.
Another potential pitfall yet to be seen is how this team reacts to going behind. In this long dominating streak, rarely has Argentina failed to score first. I would like to see for once how they react when they are chasing the game.
Their defence is so strong that they barely ever concede first. All the goals they concede come in last minutes of the game.
This team is Complete. From the Coach, to the GK to the GOAT. This Team is the BEST Team Ever. Even better than Brasil 1970.
There is a link Ronaldinho-Messi-Neymar. If you ask in Argentina you will find many people love Ronnie and Ney.
A lot of Brazilians named their son on Riquelme. Thats how popular he was for Boca
We love watching Neymar whenever he's playing anyone but us. Keeping him scoreless in the Copa America final was a nightmare for our centerbacks, though they managed it in the end.
@@sophiegallinger8004Argentina should have had 4 reds in thAT final. FOH
That last statement about Messi transcending the Brazil-Argentina rivalry...that's incredible isn't it? It's kinda like how R9 was for both Barca and Madrid; no one from either fanbase talks poorly about him because he's just that good. The biggest difference though is that R9 actually played for Barca and Messi has nothing to do with Brazil.
And the best ronaldo (in club(barca vs real)), was in barca (1997) with a ballon d or
Can you imagine how good Alvarez will be come the Copa America? Wow it’s going to be a sight to behold
Otamendi was absolutely class that last World Cup besides that foul in the final. Believe me if anyone has criticized him in the past it has been me, but no one can deny that Otamendi was by far one of the best defenders in that tournament.
True
He was great at world Cup
And has been great under scaloni.
But tbh maybe after the copa America he should be phased out and lisandro martinez should be brought into the lineup
Who would have thought... That was what Brazil seemed to be. Everything turned around once Argentina won that Copa in 2021. Once they built confidence they are unstoppable.
We suffers with leo now its time to enjoy watching leo & Argentina without any pressure ❤❤❤
There was a time when they said 'Brazil is everything that Argentina is not'
Vamos Argentina 🇦🇷
ESPN thinks the whole Argentina team is just Messi 🤣
They literally play for him. Should move on there’s better players now lol
@@amda7882they already playing together without messi
They don't watch the games
@@amda7882 Without messi argentina wouldnt have gone past groupstage in WC without this argentina squad messi wouldnt have won the final..hes the king with 10 warriors around him who will die for him..when he starts claiming bluetooth goals from his teammate shots and become a billionare habibis lil pretty sidebichh thats when he should be calling it quits but rn hes gna be too busy winning 8th balon d or
@@amda7882whose better? Camel guy??
Stfu
This game had the most energetic Messi I saw in the last 5-6 years.
Agree
Calm down it’s only Peru and the team makes him look good
He played well but let's calm down
energetic: showing great activity.
nothing more, so calm down.
@@Babumoshaaai I'm not saying Messi was not energetic but saying that's the most you've seen in last 5-6 years is simply incorrect
Messi until 2019 was a monster in the field, current Messi simply isn't on that level, he was so far ahead that people used to debate the second best player itw bcz the best spot was just obvious
The thing with this team is that argentina finally has a good talented midfield. The best midfield post-pekerman. Back then, you had 3 mids in cambiasso, masche, maxi and riquelme as a 10. Since then it was masche and biglia and sometimes banega or gago. Enzo and maccallister are very talented and young, de paul is a good complement because he's a workhorse. They play well with messi and the team is not disjointed like before. Messi is a big part of this team, but the majority will be in their prime years next copa america and heading into the next world cup.
Argentinas midfield hasnt been analyzed enough. All 3 players former attacking midfielders who learned how to defend. When one attacks the other 2 defend. SOLID AF
Where's your praise for captain Messi. For whom the whole team plays with one spirit. You can name all the great captains of past and we can argue but The greatest impact that won argentina everything is Captain Messi and the emotion he shares with every single player of the team.
this one of the genuine analysis ive witnessed about brazils problems
People fail to understand, how big a player must be or how much a player must be adored in order to surpass the Brazil Argentina Rivalry.
Pele and Messi
The list ends 🐐
And don't forget... they have Alvarez 👌
I just wanna say as soon as they made ederson the starter, it's always like 2 shots on target 2 goals like it's with man city.
Nice analysis
Next year, copa america and potentially a finalisma again would be great for messi to end with NT.
messi represent football. he plays for argentine but messi is the face of football
Just the proverb goes! Patience is the key to success. Have seen so much heartbreaks after heartbreaks lost hope with the quality of squad unknown before copa America 2021 but this team has punched above their weight with no big names in back and middle. Thanks lionel scaloni for these good days! With the talented squad brasil always had and have never thought we would have seen these days pundit saying "Argentina is everything what brasil is not right now". This team can win copa America again. This team has the knack of keeping clean sheets continuously.
Well done!
To think about the unbeaten streak. they would still be going on the streak if not for that saudi match. Argentina as a team now🔥🔥
Same Guys Bodied Scaloni in the Start when he took over 😅😅 now they r singing songs like Birds on top of tree in the morning
Messi best ever
Uruguay is actually a good team and have a shout for Copa next Summer
Uruguay can even win this upcoming World Cup believe me,watch them for this upcoming Copa America and World Cup mark these Words
Never seen halland scoring from outside the box
GOAT....... always n forever!
Where was ESPN when he lost mls game. How come they didn't review it?
They covered almost all matches in MLS with Messi in it. Unfortunately, Messi wasn’t playing when they were still contending for th play offs.
Brazil didn't even had a shot on goal
Messi ❤
He is pride of South America
Brazilian football fans will love Messi
Argentina has a professional players, ready to do everything for their country while Brazil is full of the arrogant, semi-professional players rather than world class players. It's clash of the mentalities and professionalism as well.
Argentina and messi should be praised
If i were the coach i wouldn't start messi
this team is full of talented players,I would start them
Come on it's peru 😅😅
Absolutely messi is too much for them
All I can say with all due respect to Rodri, KDB and Gundogan, but last season Argentina would win last season UCL winners Man City :)
The same is all around the world. The Peru fans got on Peru jerseys with Messi name at the back. Man it can happen to only one n that's Messi
Craziest thing is if Messi and this team stays healthy they might win another World Cup 😮
iam just surprise to see how the media treat ronaldo when he score two goals saying that are weak teams and when messi score two goals there is good chemistry between the team they have messi...i mean i just want to ask a qauestion...is this media ???
Well, if Messi had the chance to play against teams like luxemburg, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Liechtenstein etc every two years in the name of qualification, he would have got 200 international goals by now. Messi mostly plays against south american sides who are better in ranking than the european teams mentioned above.
The Pendu Executive Committee,
The Penaldian Federation & The
Offside Coalition:
*Meh, it’s only Peru*
Meanwhile, Pendu beats up on Estonia And Luxembourg (teams ranked way lower than Peru)
“Pendu’s the GOAT 😭😭😭 “
I mean, Argentina played Estonia not too long ago, as prep for facing Poland in the group stage. Messi scored 5 goals on them by himself.
@@sophiegallinger8004 yup. But Ronaldo fans didn’t say $ht 🤣
Messi 🐐⚽️🇦🇷
God Leo ❤️
If Argentina wins this copa america they will go down as one of the greatest teams of all time.
Is Gustavo AI?
Enzo has had his struggles at Chelsea??? Grow up Ale 🤡 & watch Chelsea games please, he has been 1 of our best players while performing for the most part despite the team’s overall struggles sadly
What is the Messi channel saying now.
Brazil's manager is picking Ederson ahead of Alisson in goal. They deserve to fail.
Yes Enderson is always watching the ball go in.
Because Brazilians are real football fans, that's why the rooted for Messi.
Messi idolizes Ronaldinho and original Ronaldo. That’s also the reason Brazilians love Messi so much.
Goatness 🐐
I am from brazil but believe me half of brazil supports argentina bz of messi inluding me. the reason i hate this urrent brazil squad is bz they have no hemistry and play like they are fored to. its like a bunh of 5*skill players playing football. they let us down. I SUPPORT ARGENTINA
Messi has gigantic pool in his new Miami house filled with Ronaldo fanboys fresh tears.
🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷🇦🇷
Argentina 2024 copa America
Romero is a important player for argentina..
1 hour before the match we had pinicious on twitter sucking upto Ronaldo another world cup flop 😂😂😂😂and gave a disasterclass on the field 😂
Goat
Brazils football is like Ale Morenos hair, gone.
Better watch out for Uruguay. They seem to be flying under the radar!
VAMOS ALBICELESTE ❤
ESPN seems to think the whole team is Messi. I'm sure that they don't even watch the games
Argentina is so much better than Brazil it’s not even funny. Messi da 🐐
Definition of a one man team
I was waiting for what those clowns say
We going for the second ...Wc...
brazil world cup
✔
uruguay world cup
✔
argentina world cup
✔
peru world cup
⭕
espn slams brazil for losing to a good team and when argentina win against a team thats expected to lose they say they have qualities brazil lack? tf 💀
Brazil have players but late they are always picking the wrong ones.
But after Messi then Argentina might struggle🤷🏻♂️
No. Tiene muchos talentos jovenes que van a aparecer. Ya supo pasar la era Maradona , y hubo grandes jugadores como Batistuta, Redondo, Riquelme, Aimar, etc etc y en la era post Messi , van a aparecer mas jugadores... es el pais de Messi , Maradona y Di Stefano. Siempre salen jugadores en Argentina.
The Chemistry and Aura is different
Correction: Messi is everything-Brazil is not
With penalties for Argentina.
@@amda7882Also solo goals and impossible passes 😂😂
When it comes to the Argentina vs Brazil debate, one word: Croatia
You guess are just unbelievable, one loss by Argentina, you guys will change. Though all you said is true.