Flight Attendant Can't Believe Black Woman Is Doctor
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2016
- A flight attendant just couldn’t believe a black woman doctor was actually a real doctor. She is. Thankfully this ignorant racism didn’t cost someone their life. Cenk Uygur, Ben Mankiewicz, Kim Horcher, and Kenny Hamilton, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down. Tell us what you think in the comment section below. tytnetwork.com/join
"Cross, an obstetrician and gynecologist, said she immediately flagged down one of the crew members, offering to treat the man.
She got a response she wasn’t prepared for.
“Oh no, sweetie, put [your] hand down,” Cross recalled the flight attendant saying. “We are looking for actual physicians or nurses or some type of medical personnel, we don’t have time to talk to you.”
The reason behind the flight attendant’s apparent skepticism? Cross says it was because she is black.
Cross described the experience on the flight in an Oct. 9Facebook post that had been shared more than 34,000 times as of Thursday night. In it, she said she was “sick of being disrespected” as a woman of color in her profession and accused Delta, the flight operator, of “blatant discrimination.”
Delta said it has reached out to Cross about what happened. In multiple comments from the official Delta Facebook account, the company said the incident “does not reflect the Delta culture. We condemn discrimination toward our customers.””*
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Let's see: a flight attendant serves drinks and food, she is basically a waitress; but apparently she can tell a doctor by just looking at her.
No, she asked for credentials... like she is trained to do.
Abraxas1177 I used to be a flight attendant, it's more than that, you're responsible for people's lives and the safety of the plane, too. We're medically trained But we have nothing on doctors
Abraxas1177 Lol
***** I have read the story and watched videos from various YT channels and web sites. I didn't watch this one as TYT have been shown many many times to leave out certain crucial snippets of information in order to lead their viewers to certain conclusions.If you think a certain thing from watching this video alone then I'm not surprised that you have the conclusion you have.
***** Again being presumptuous, I don't support Trump or Hillary I think theyre both terrible for your country. I'm from the UK by the way. Again, I have to say that we have only heard one side of the story (and from a TYT perspective no less). Everyone should wait to hear what the flight attendant has to say about her reasons for believing one passenger over the other instead of presuming it has everything to do with their identities.
In a couple of days time when we have all the facts and you still think that then that is your prerogative. But at least wait until you have all the facts before being particularly damning of this woman, who in all fairness may not have done anything wrong.
Black doctor discovered blood plasma.(Charles Drew) Black doctor was the first to perform open heart surgery.(Daniel Hale Williams) Ben Carson was the preeminent pediatric brain surgeon in the world. Educate yourselves
Ok big deal...
Mo Fo -not when you need a blood transfusion or brain surgery (seems you are not far off that procedure) you complete and utter idiot!!!
While not a doctor, add the boxer Jack Johnson to the list, he invented adjustable spanner (wrench) while serving jail time, his "crime" being married to a white woman.
But to be honest, it is somewhat surprising to see a black doctor in US. Specifically in US, not in Europe, not in South America, Cuba or Caribbean islands and of course not in Africa, but in US. I myself was surprised by a video, where a black lady speaking in pretty typical "ghetto accent" turned out to by an astrophysicist!
And sorry, but your userpick doesn't look like that of a doctor. 8D
Eric Johnson Who cares really, only the ignorant are illinformed and the insecure need to brag
Ignorance could have cost someone their life in this incident
Lucky she wasn't arrested afterward for "doctoring while black".
lolll
Mandolinic if you think Trump was the only Racist ? Think again.
Mandolinic So true.
@@jonathanmettle-nunoo8433 where did she say that
Shame on that flight attendant. That black woman was busy working on her calculus while you were painting your nails.
Grey Owl 😂😂😂😂
Yassss.
you got that right. but i always have to remember, when something goes really wrong and we're all there in the air, that lady painting her nails in between pouring you orange juice is going to be the one that saves all our asses. all colours and kinds, economy and first class. She's paid (and trained) to do that, too. 'struth.
Helen Lauer stfu ignorant bitch
ah! touched a nerve, did we? and you, so articulate . . . have a nice day!!
Lemme get this straight. A peanut-server thinks she's qualified to evaluate other people's professional credentials? Got it!
alisher1984 yes. because at 20000 feet, when your run out of those little packets of peanuts shit becomes real."now get the mothalovin snakes of this mothalovin plane.
It's not your fault for asking a question like that. This is not a new site! If i got my news from this site, I would be misinformed.
One had credentials, the others did not. No controversy here. You can't just mental jump over that fact.
Delta Air Lines have issued a full statement saying they are taking the accusations “very seriously”, Metro Online reports.
www.thesun.co.uk/news/1985252/airline-accused-of-racism-after-refusing-to-believe-black-woman-was-doctor/
“Three medical professionals identified themselves on the flight in question. Only one was able to produce documentation of medical training and that is the doctor who was asked to assist the customer onboard. In addition, paramedics met the flight to assist the customer further.
“Flight attendants are trained to collect information from medical volunteers offering to assist with an onboard medical emergency.
“When an individual’s medical identification isn’t available, they’re instructed to ask questions such as where medical training was received or whether an individual has a business card or other documentation and ultimately to use their best judgement.”
White privilege. White people believe they have the right to question any person of color at any time, any where.
Lynn DeBeal Maybe? But, its their training. You can’t edit out that fact to suit your narrative. It devalues the situation by removing the nuance.
+kellar364 Lawyer here--know the procedure that are asked to follow. But, the offending language (and tone) took place before the other doctor was identified. So, the excuse of Delta's lawyer fails. The sequence of events matters.
Why is this flight attendant not in jail? She was blocking medical treatment due to her racism
Ritalin Popper she should face some charges
Ritalin Popper because courts dont usually take peoples word just because that person is black like you and this channel do.
How do you know that the flight attendant blocked her because of skin colour? Where's the evidence?
Deezy from philly Yes, really, show me the evidence that this was racially motivated and not just the flight attendant doing her job. You do realise that all flight attendants are trained to ask for credentials before allowing someone to administer medical attention on one of their customers right?
***** Such rebuttals, absolutely nothing to suggest that this was anything else but a flight attendant doing her job. Where is the evidence that suggests otherwise? Or is name calling the only position you can argue from?
If I need emergency medical help I don't care if that help comes from man, woman, black, white, asian, hispanic, pink, purple, or polka dot. That flight attendant needs to find a job more suited to her/his ability, like washing dishes, mopping floors, or cleaning toilets. Something that doesn't require actual human contact.
Jim Vandemoter she needs to go on with the attuide
Jim Vandemoter. Lol exactly
Jim Vandemoter
Right my Doctor's are all different, from every regions of the world, Africa, Pakistan, India, United States, and China! And I love and need each and everyone of them to help me live longer!
agreed, people that would ask for proof from one person and not another based on appearance should not be working with the public. I want someone that knows how to help, and they can easily prove that to me by asking the right questions and not being judgemental as in assuming things and making lots of mistakes. Such as people in the hospital that do not know the difference between a male and a female as we have here in Victorville California at victor valley hospital on 11th st.
Jim Vandemoter n
the best doctor ive ever had just happened to be a black woman when my mum was sick her surgeon was a black man and i praise everything they did for her she passed away but to no fault of her surgeons
a person's skin colour doesnt dictate who they are or what they do or why they do it its just a pigment
Sorry to hear about your loss.
Why are people like you and me so far and inbetween these days?
Sorry for your lose ,hope life is treating you well love..........
Well said
Im glad FINALLY white people are realizing what black people have known along : Racism has NEVER gone away!
how can you judge a whole race on the way americans act, i wonder
Actually. As a white person. I experience racism every day. Like when someone in a comment section singles out white people specifically. Sure, it's not a big one, but it definitly helps contribute to dehumanizing me.
***** Lol you're ridiculous!
Seth Stone Im talking about REAL LIFE racism, not white fragility and perceived racism in a comment section.
White people don't experience real racism, black people do.
0x1A3C3E7
It amazes me the willful blindness of the historical context of the Americas and particularly the US, in which people simply/obviously are not considering when it comes to what every marginalized/minority group has experienced since the Europeans landed in the "new world"...non whites in the US beginning with the Natives, then the African, THEN later on other non white groups, have been euthanized, enslaved, criminalized and discriminated against in the Americas from 1492 to present day. I'm painting a broad picture, but the details are extremely appalling. So now since about the early to mid 1960s, women/minority groups have made progress and have won little battles in the long war against the tyranny and oppression of the European American White Supremacist system and with those strides and victories for equality have resulted in more white people feeling the exact pains, bumps and bruises over the ensuing 50 odd years, as those who were subjugated and oppressed over the previous 350 + years. One can only say that this "anti-white discrimination" has been brought upon by white supremacist ideology, and inturn impacted white society in general in the negative ways such as those which white people complain about today. So the question I now pose is...Could this possibly be an example of what Malcolm X famously said, "...a case of the chickens coming home to roost..."? Are the tables turning? Let us refer to history for the answers.
If he had died because the flight attendant held back the doctor and she turned out to be the only one on board, the airline would have more to worry about than an apology.
depends on the colour of the guy who died...
The doctor should be flying for free for the rest of her life.
Jay Gee after i got done i would be
I agree.
Edgehead10075 She wouldn’t sue for being insulted but for having been discriminated against by the employee which represents the company
The rest of her life? Plane tickets are pretty expensive. Covering 1 or 2 flights is plenty
Facts
She [flight attendant] should be charged for denying the patient medical attention.
damn successful black woman should be ashamed of herself? she would've gotten much more respect had she been on welfare and had 5 kids?!?!? sarcasm
Thanks to our liberal government, black women end up being welfare queens.
Even though white people are the biggest users of welfare. But that's ok, I don't want to ruin your hateful perspective.
Darkvega2k7 yup, how many cases for welfare fraud for wp but OH SHIT THEYRE WHITE
America's Imperialist what about white people ?
America's Imperialist I don't tolerate that shit on my post!!!!
I'm an airline pilot, I've had people refuse to fly on my aircraft because they don't want a black pilot...
But race has nothing to do with it these turds say. I wish i could turn them black for a week or two like that old movie Watermelon Man so they can get a damned clue after walking in our shoes.
That's terrible. I wish you could meet them face to face and tell them to walk.
ERAUPRCWA ~ I'm an Air Traffic Controller in the Navy and I am met with the same sort of scrutiny and amazement, because at 6ft6 290 lbs, to them I should be on someone's football field and not in such a responsible profession...press on!
that's crazy like you have an illegitimate pilots license? yet go to Africa ALL the pilots are black.Don't feel bad look at how they did the Tuskegee airmen and they never lost a single bomber and all scored upper 90 to 100 percentile on the tests.🚁🚀
Again, how do you know that's what they think lol.
Honestly I probably would’ve pushed her a little or something to move her out the way.
Basically I’d ignored her and said something like ‘ma’am you’re in my way, someone’s in need of help, excuse me.’ I wouldn’t have even answered her questions. I straight up would just show her evidence and kept moving.
People these days. I hope she was at least suspended for that. Who would lie about being a doctor in that situation???
Echaka Monjok Yeah that's me.
Donald Alexander lol me too of course. Don’t have time for folks. B why you asking if I’m a doctor? In this situation? 😒 Nah move out the way, here’s my card or whatever you need. I’m not about to answer you.
Echaka Monjok See the thing is, she's never gotten her lil white ass, Kicked. No one has ever put her in her place. White people seem to think they can do and say every, and anything to us/black folks. I was in Vegas because I go back and forth but I'm from the ( D) etroit. I was at the Super Market and parked in a handicap parking spot. This white lady came up to me talking shit about my parking in the space. Certainly I checked her, then showed her my handicap sticker. I hadn't had time, because my plate wasn't a handicap plate because it was a temporary situation. I hadn't had time to place it in the window. But she might have done well to just wait and see when I walked away, then say something, or just mind her own business. Her husband came over and I had to tell him to get wit her wack crazy ass. They think they can can do and say anything to Black people. As I said I'm from the D, we don't play that and our white folks know.
I would've given her any type of proof u don't have anything to prove to her.
Echaka Monjok
"Does not reflect Delta culture" let's see, delta, you kicked off a family on a plane and threatened to throw their kids in foster care, smacked a 13 year old's phone out of his hands, and now discrimination
Sydney Spears when was the one about the 13 year old?
Tsuzuki Song I think you have common sense to look it up yourself. And the comment is a year old
Delta is apparently hiring bottom feeders.
Hopefully, she got fired.
Adoss shall rule all
No, educate people, make them aware of their deficiencies, mistakes, prejudices and give them a chance to truly change and do better!
I never thought about it like that before, but from now on there's really no other way to think about it :O
Celisar1 but part of messing up and learning you need to do better means losing something. if she doesn't lose something as a result of her mistake then she is probably less likely to change.
firing her doesn't mean she will stop discriminating it will make her worse to blame the black doctor who caused all her problems
Far more egregious? Are you insane? Not even remotely comparable , let alone worse.
So first a child dies because their racist parents refused to let a black nurse into the room, and now an individual having an emergency could've died because a racist flight attendant wouldn't let a doctor do her job. And people think hatred and prejudice don't have impacts even today.
i would’ve been like “ma’am, if you don’t get out of my way, then you will need a doctor too”.
lol. thanks for that.
uh, it's an expression of emphatic disdain. it's not an actual intention or prediction of what she would do or say. whew. i guess a lot does not translate in these chats, that's it.
Aamir Ali Yeah maybe, but Sometimes, you just gotta let'em know how you roll. And I honestly believe that. If you don't, they'll never get it. Sometimes someone has to take one for the team, that's the way it's always been in the Black community/family down through ourstory/history.
shootingstarzzz zzz fa real!
😂😂😂😂
But the flight attendant is a peanut server? How is a peanut server capable of deciding who is a doctor and who isn't? 🤔
😂the peanut offended, you're being racist against peanuts
Tiffani Sullivan 😅🤣😅
Now THAT'S hilarious
The guy was probably went into anaphylactic shock from a peanut allergy.
Exactly 😭😭 and they don’t get paid much
The dislikes in this video are all the people that don't believe black women can be doctors.
There's a few dislikes there from people who don't think this is newsworthy. Myself included. Don't generalize! Not all people who dislike videos are racist!
You don't think this newsworthy?
tehkoalainsurgency how is it not newsworthy?
oh wait she's black..
Yes I don't think it's newsworthy. An individual showed racist behavior to a black woman, let the authorities figure it out, fire the attendant, story over.
I disliked because tyt are shit
I am of the opinion that being a racist is grounds for firing.
How do you know this was racially motivated?
^ Lol
Legendary Item how do u know it wasn't
Legendary Item
Explain to me why her actions were acceptable? You stop person A who says they are a doctor, refusing to believe them, asking for credentials and grilling them while someone is in critical condition. Person B on the other hand says he is a doctor and you don't do the same to him. The only differences between Person A and B are Race and Gender, so its either Sexist or Racist or Both, take your pick.
Angela Gordon I'm not the one making a claim. You made a claim and now you need to back it up.
While I was a USAF Combat Photojournalist I was assigned to "Project: Haylift" during the drought in the southern states when the military was transporting in food to the farmers to keep their cattle from dying. My first assignment was in a little farming community north of Montgomery, Alabama to interview and take pictures of the mayor, town council, and the farmers who were going to receive the first shipment of hay.
I've set up my equipment in their conference room and ready to get started when the mayor asks me, "Well, when is the photographer going to get here? We haven't got all day. Can you go and get him?" I told him, "I am the photographer and I've been waiting on you for the last 45-mins." He didn't believe me, got on the phone to the Cattlemen's Association, and when they told him who I was and then asked to speak to me immediately--he instantly went pale, handed me the phone, and sat down in a chair visibly shaken and feeling like a fool!
He was nothing but apologetic with me for the rest of the day. One of the council members said, "We really hope that his actions don't put us all in a bad light." Of which I said, "He is just the tip of the iceberg of what happens down here."
damn. thanks for that episode.
@@user-cc8om9ww2w thats no excuse thats a cop out a way to justify your racist arrogant behaviour and speech towards people of colour im an Aussie and we are the racist nation on earth and i dont use that as an excuse to be racist to people if i took all your skin away and then did the same to a black man what would seperate you from him?
I am so very sorry for the way you were treated that is absolutely disgusting how dare he speak to you like that especially someone from the military who is sacrificing there time for there country im not tolerant of racism what so ever i hate it hate it with a fiery passion
Rev. Robert 'Standing Eagle' Marshall sad people judge other people by the amount of melanin one have in their skin
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
“Why were you in Detroit?” I cant get over that part, the fact that she felt entitled to someone’s personal business like that is crazy
I'm born and raised in Mississippi. I still live her and what he said about Mississippi is definitely true. Some cities are still stuck in the 60s
Giahanna Bridges same. what part?
Stuck in The 1860's!
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My son is a black airline pilot and he often times stopped by TSA or treated as baggage handler even though he's in his pilot uniform
contactpq me and my bro were dropping my mom off at the airport. we were looking at a line of people passing through security and the guards were doing random checks. after a minute of seeing this we were able to mostly correctly predict which person would be randomly checked. it was mostly male, mostly sikhs or muslims or people with beards, black men. the 5 minutes we did this we saw one white guy get checked and the guard was about to approach an indian looking guy but his colleague got to him firstso he took the guy behind him which happened to be white.
contactpq .....that's sooo AWFUL
If he was white they would of said hello captain but they see your son as an other nigga who made it by luck, but I know it’s not true it’s just some white people hate color people going up !
WOWO
contactpq wtf
The flight attendant needs to be fired. Her ignorance and bias could have cost a passenger his life.
I was in a KFC and a white came in. He was listening to me and my two year old daughter talking. He asked me how did you get her to speak so proper. I looked at him and replied simply, sir I spend hours teaching my child every day without using any gibberish. Never used baby talk and always have long in-depth conversations
Video Gaming
Bro Quit calling them Sir and
Ma'am when do you ever here
them refer to You as such....
You can't fix stupid
Not about race but okay 🤷🏾♀️
@@christina4012It’s always about race. Fuck out of here.
@@gabbysariya4730I agree.
If she is not fired, we should boycott Delta.
there ya go, now when we find out how Tamika Lied about everything Delta can sue her for defamation.
Ronnie Paul
How did you find out that she lied about everything?
So because she is proud to be black she has to be associated with BLM?
Kimberlyn Roberts Who said that, let me at em.. I will kick their ass. Seriously though, stop with the strawman bullshit. Will get you nothing but called out by me.
Okay, well call me out. I am a black woman and proud of it. I have lots of black this and black on my page as well but I don't associate myself with BLM.
I no longer will be flying Delta anymore. I didn't become a neurosurgeon for flight attendant to discriminate me in the future.
Bakimos Kidane So bcuz one incident you say fukkk DELTA🤔🤔🤔 that's just like saying a black guy robbed you... and now you hate all black people🤔🤔🤔🤔 Get the fukkk outta here... you sound dumber than a boxxx of roxxx😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Booiiiiii u single???
Brian James Dummy
Brian James you are jealous
Bakimos Kidane don't fly southwest because if your skin is black or brown they think your not American.
She really need to lose her job, no question asked.
What the hell is wrong with flight attendants today? This is absolutely outrageous for the flight attendant to question the validity of a Medical Doctor, while the individual who needed help suffered! Ridiculous!!
It was the airline's policy to ask for credentials. The lady doctor did not have her credentials with her. End of story.
were I the person in need, I would have flipped shit on delta. she could have cost the guy his life.
john blount, no that is not their policy.
And the flight stewardess didn't ask the white doctor for his credentials.
Did you watch the video?
john blount always making excuses for evil is the Truest evil
No, not end of story. The White doctor was not questioned about his credentials. What's up with that?
The number of people doing backflips to try to find another way to explain away this flight attendant's racism is unreal.
heheh, the company spin is your proof? Really? And the fact that they offered her compensation at the scene before the company lawyers had their say, that's just something they do all the time for without cause or fault? You'd think that would be hard on the bottom line.
Naias Raj After the airline apologizes they still can't accept the doctors statement.
Naias Raj only Reason why Racism is Prevalent in this country is because 99% of White Folks are either passively or actively Racist. And want to maintain the status Quo.
This story truly shows the depths of "Racial Profiling" in our country. This story also tells how racist people subconsciously don't realize their racist behaviors.
+Big J
No, she definitely meant racist people. You know, like you.
Is that why almost all the looters in Ferguson, Baltimore & Charlotte were all Black???
Mo Fo so big deal....
i'm free, free falling, i'm free, free falling
Seriously is that your Rebuttal ?
Won’t be flying Delta ever.
Delta is a piece of work for real, I can't do them at all to Racist for my blood....😔😔😔😔
They are way better than American Airlines.
this coming from a glorified waiter on a plane 😒ok
Abigail Goliath Do we need to belittle an entire profession? More concerns and expertise are involed in the air. Terrorism, aeuronotic knowledge, emergency landing procedures, calming passengers (during turbulence), etc. But even if not--it isnt necessary to build up by tearing down--because then, you're likened to sort of the character you oppose.
McDonald’s wasn’t hiring that week.
People don't get it. The FLIGHT ATTENDANT PLAYED THE RACE CARD!!!!! When white people disrespect a person of color who is just being themselves, living their lives, because of their race - the WHITE person is the one playing the race card. NOT the person who pointed out that they got got disrespected. Blaming the person of color for talking about an experience in which a white person treated them with disrespect because of their color is like blaming a woman for saying she got raped. Blaming a person for saying they got hit by a car. Blaming someone for saying their house burned down. They did nothing wrong. It HAPPENED to them. All they did was be Black, a woman, crossing the street, have a fire at their home.
It's a "no brainer". That is, unless you have no problem with white people who disrespect people of color who are just being themselves, living their lives, because of their race. And more than likely you are one of the people who are throwing the "race" card out there all over the place. AND most likely throwing out the "woman" card, the "bully with your big wheeled truck" card , "LGBT" card, "Muslim" card, "Jew" card, "1%" card, "Atheist" card, "Able Bodied" card.......what ever card you need to justify what ever behavior makes you, or anyone, hell - even me - feel like we are better than other people.
Lynn DeBeal I don't see how any of what you said applies. If it was your loved one, needing medical attention, how could you think that the person pushing the button when a doctor was being requested for an emergency - wouldn't be a doctor? Have discussed this just now with several friends who fly a lot - doesn't happen. A person presses that button to assist because they can. Do we want a death to occur over such silliness?
Linda Claudine Of course you "don't get it". If you "Got it" it would mean looking at your and other white peoples behavior in a whole different way. And that would be very painstaking. It would mean change. And change is very scary.
Cuda man No problem. In that case, it's just like when you disrespect another white person for being disrespectful to you. Or put a christian in check who is dissing you. A disrespectful teen, frat boy, Russian, Red head, Blond...anyone else who is disrespectful to you. Which I'm sure you do. Don't you? If some Irish, or Italian guy or girl dissed you, you would diss them back wouldn't you? You can only take that "turn the other cheek " so far, you know.
" If you "Got it" it would mean looking at your and other white peoples behavior in a whole different way." That is a very racist remark. Why don't you black people start taking responsibility fro your problems and stop blaming them on white people. The reason black neighborhoods turn into slums is not because of the white people, but because of the black people who live there. If you don't report crimes to the police, you can't expect it to improve. How many of these black kids that get shot by police were obeying the law? NONE OF THEM! Start teaching your kids to respect the police instead of teaching the to hate them and three would be a lot less of these incidents. Stop letting you kids listen to music that glorifies drugs, gang life and violence and a lot of these incidents would never happen.
This has happened to me several times over the course of my career. I'm not a doctor but have worked in retail for several years and despite having been a store manager and lab manager, time after time when customers come in the store I smile I greet them and they smile back but walk directly to towards a white associate, usually a male if they can find one and ask him to help instead of me. Its automatically assumed that a white man is the boss and the black female is subordinate to him. He knows more, he's in charge so he's the person that they want help from. And honestly I don't even consider those people necessarily to be racist in the traditional sense. I don't think they consciously decided anything, that's just the unspoken bias that exists in some people's heads.
Maybe this is because not a lot of businesses are run by black females. If you would work in a boutique it probably would be the other way round. Not a big deal after all.
Hugh Mungus I work in retail. And in a way you just kind of proved my point for me. Like I said I don't think these people are racist. I don't think they consciously decided that because I'm black I CAN'T or SHOULDN'T ever be in charge. But in the back of your mind there is a belief that a white man is probably going to be in charge, and that he is probably going to know more or be more competent then the black female. I'm not even necessarily mad, I just wish that you would be more open and acknowledge that that sort of bias is a reality. Early on in my career when I was younger it didn't occur to me that it had anything to do with my race or gender. However, I'm 38 years old now and I've seen it happen entirely too many times to still chalk it up as a coincidence.
Lola Shipman I wish society was different and everyone would be treated with the same amount of respect, but I'm very pessimistic.
Hugh Mungus Agreed
rcandminilover Is this sexual harassment?
That delta flight attendent was suffering from professional jealousy. She couldn't handle the fact that a WOC was actually a doctor and she is.... well, herself. Lol!!
Bohemian Grove must suck to have to serve peanuts and get no tip. lol this bitch isn't qualified to scrub toilets at taco Bell let alone be a flight attendant
+Kimberly Haworth 💯lol the delta flight attendant should perform her job with pride and see that it has value, rather than attacking a woman of color who put in the work to get where she is at. she should be happy to serve her and everyone else on board, as long as everyone is respectful. in other words, my advice to her would be: "don't hate, celebrate" I think status anxiety and professional jealousy mixed with a base of racism has conditioned her to abandon the one thing she can control: herself.
I had a black pediatrician as a child. He was great.
She must be from Donald Trump's Amerikka......
No it is Obama's Americahe learned it from his vile hate filled bigoted pastor of 20 years..You know the racist Obama called his 'uncle'That bigot...
Mo Fo
Shes was white. so she is from Trump's Amerikka.
Name one thing where Trump was racist against blacks?
In 1973 he was brought to court by the Justice Department for anti-black bias by refusing to rent out his apartments to African Americans. He settled the lawsuit two years later without admitting wrongdoing, but then 3 years later was sued by the Justice Department again for the same thing. He was also known to make his casinos staff remove all African Americans from the floor into the back, and has said "I think the guy is lazy, and it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It's not anything they can control."
Lols This reminds me of the show Fringe...like Donald Trump's Universe is colliding with ours...something must be done or the two will collide!
Dam!! I'd be pissed
Yeah I know
We still live in a very sad Country.
And by the she's a beautiful black doctor❤
Ummm, yes.
Yes Indeed!!!
Wow smh because she was Black they couldn't believe she was a Doctor.This is pure racism & prejudice . They act like Black people can never be in prominent position like this.
I don't get the hate for this video. This is blatant discrimination. People just come out the woodwork to defend racist things out of spite of others calling racsim when there is obviously racsim.
Florence MacKenna Well there's a million possible outcomes in the universe and we got stuck with this one.
No it isn't blatant discrimination and here is why. When they asked the man for his credentials he had them and was able to show them proving he was a doctor. If he didn't have his credentials nobody would have been allowed to help the man because flight attendants are trained to not let anyone touch someone in need of medical assistance unless they can prove they are trained. They can lose their jobs for breaking this rule because allowing people to try and help someone in need can result in law suits if they are not trained.
By the way before you call me a lair about him having his credentials even TYT's source says that he provided them.
This doesn't seem to actually be a case of racism though. She didn't have anything that proved she was a doctor, while he did. TYT were wrong about him not having any credentials.
wowDragonsoul OK I'll believe you for now, but I've never heard of having to prove you're a doctor in a time crisis like this. Someone is possibly dying in front of you and the only person with the possible skills comes along and you interrogate them for their authentication? Come on now.
jerry chicks It's because of Law Suits in the very unlikely scenario the person claiming to be trained isn't it can cost the company a ton of money and companies care more about money than anything else.
At a minimum please tell me she was reprimanded.
Black doctors? What's next- black Presidents? Does Trump know about this?
excellence in commenting on youtube.
Scott Wallace: i'm old, grey and ugly, with every bad habit except smoking tobacco, but I love you for this comment and I don't mind telling you.
Lls "My golly what is going on?" Some people of every race are just plain ignorant, shame.
The fact that she even questioned her credit, is already bad enough. I just can't wrap my head around the way some people think.
Honestly, I think it was fair game to question, but after being so adamant that she was, why would she lie?
When it comes to a life and death situation they need to know the person is a doctor, and she didn't have anything that proved she was, while he did. A lot of bullshit racist shit still happens but this doesn't seem to be one of those times.
When they asked the man for his credentials he had them and was able to
show them proving he was a doctor. If he didn't have his credentials
nobody would have been allowed to help the man because flight attendants
are trained to not let anyone touch someone in need of medical
assistance unless they can prove they are trained. They can lose their
jobs for breaking this rule because allowing people to try and help
someone in need can result in law suits if they are not trained.
By the way before you call me a lair about him having his credentials
even TYT's source says that he provided them.
wowDragonsoul That's actually not true. People without credentials can help out with medical type of events.
Its up to the judgment of the attendant.
This comes straight from the horse's mouth.
news.delta.com/message-about-allegations-discrimination-recent-delta-flight
spnsdr
Well, there is something wrong with TYT's stance on it, since the source they provide says he presented his credentials.
I gave the banker the benefit of the doubt because it's about money, and banks are notorious about not wanting to be responsible for loosing clients' money, but this one's clear-cut racism. Who the hell would CLAIM to be a doctor, risk being liable for the death of someone, just for... what? There is literally no upside for her to this. Why the hell would she lie about it? Racist flight attendant...*facepalm*
The bank incident was racism too
With the bank incident they could have just taken the check and put it on a nine day hold. Once the check clears she would have gotten the money. Now I don't understand why they needed to call her back in, ask her where she worked, what her desk number was, for her HR information. I mean they could have just called the bank it was issued at to see if the check was actually valid. Again though the nine day hold should have taken care of that right? So that's why I think it is racism. I mean do they do that to all their customers? It would be one thing if the lady wanted the money instantly but obviously she didn't because she left. If the check is valid why do they care about how she earned it?
Yokabed Hunde That's why I gave them the benefit of the doubt. I've had to jump through hoops when dealing with larger transfers as the first transaction at a new bank too. And since this was the first deposit, and most likely a large one, makes sense that they're being careful. Doesn't mean it's definitively racist. Might have been, but could just have been overly careful bank staff. Here there's no doubt.
***** Exactly.
give them all benefits you want, but they are racists. I remember when a pilot fell ill the attendant asked if there's any pilot, a white pilot came forward and was not asked questions.. imagine if that pilot was black. Now in this case the white doctor was not asked for his credentials.. the man was lucky because there was a white doctor otherwise he could have died or his case worsened. Plain racism.
Why is it a white pilot is not risk for the flight and the black pilot is?
why is it a white doctor is not a risk to the patient and the black doctor is?
The bank incident has happened to me 2-3 times in my adult life as a Black business owner. I just move on and didn't really think that much about it. This situation however is blatant stewed to perfection racism.
Wow! Yes my Uncle has been a doctor in Detroit for 60 years .
I think America is a very sad place. Certainly wouldn’t want to live there.
people needs to understand that when someone needs emergency attention every second matters. The more. time you spend asking stupid questions the less chance to revive someone if he is having a heart attack. I'm a nurse I know how important time is in emergency situations
I am MORTIFIED that this happened. I keep thinking that we have evolved as a species. Then something like this happens. The Delta crew needs some sensitivity training.
that's right Sandra
American people is stuck in a white-christian conservative fantasy since the Cold War, may I think.
Sandra Nelson Americans are sad they focus on stupid subjects like immigration when they should focus on recognizing real Americans who are making a chance not telling lies written on a teleprompter
change
I AM absolutely mortified tsrdigied and triggered because nothing this serious has happened in my little liberal life. HOW CAN YOU DARE SEVOND GUESS CREDENTIAL, OBVIOUSLY RACIST!
this ignorance and racism is over the top
It's because they expect us to be nothing.
I hope Dr. Cross sues the shit out of Delta (who should have shut down decades ago anyway), and that flight attendant spends the rest of her life waiting tables.
Not sure this flight attendant should have anything further to do with the public. Perhaps, a fitting result would be for her to clean the homes of professionals, who also happen to be people of colour.
Edgehead10075 can you not? I think you can. And would she not deserve it for being such a racist idiot?
Edgehead10075 you must be dumb as hell she discriminated and kept her from helping someone that’s life was in danger I’m pretty sure she can sue dumbass
my best friend a young black women is a head doctor at a clinic. they all ways assume she the nurse. some of the disrespect comes from her being a young women . men doc treated way different,but most cause of her skin.
I believe that...I hope she doesnt get discouraged
Your spelling is horrendous.
One of my dentist colleagues at work always has patients looking to her and her nurse and asking "which one's the dentist?" - though in that case it's because she's a new young grad and her nurse is older (i.e. they're both white). However, that didn't happen to me when I was a new young grad with older nurses. I'm a boy (and not white).
Another of my older dentist colleagues said that patient's are often unwilling to listen to her instructions. She seemed to think gender authority was an issue there and I believe her.
I wasn't aware of there being such a thing as "head doctor". You learn new things every day I guess.
lolpauve the unit manager is the head doctor...because each floor has to have a coordinator...one person can not monitor all floors
As a black scientist, I feel like this doesn't bode well for me. But, I don't live in America, so may not be an issue.🤞🏾
they can't believe an asian can be a doctor.
Ed Mendez I hope your being sarcastic
I'm so thankful I live in a majority black country.
What country? And I agree I'm getting outta this place.
Is that the best you can do?
Beer&Blades yeah it's official you guys are the worst. and last i remember black people aren't the ones dropping bombs on people for no reason
Beer&Blades you people need to get with the years majority black countries never did shit like that in most aren't shit holes dumb ass they have cities too
Nigeria has a higher GDP than a lot of Western European countries like Belgium, Norway and Austria.
Racism exist in the north too. Assuming it is only a southern phenomenon is ridiculous.
Mondez Durden We all know it's nation wide shug.
Mondez Durden you make it seem like you want to be noticed. It is publicized more in the south because it occurs the most in the south. Northern states were not slave owning states. The people from up north were hesitant to move down south because of the past. However, they eventually did and so black people moved there and a lot of them. There was better opportunity for black peoples in the north. Anything else you have mildly ignorant to say?
Mondez Durden so True
You are so right, our people think racism only exist in the south.
Absolutely is actually even worse up north because they hide it,
if my dad on a plane I don't care what color they are what race they are what religion they are save him and if you get in their way you're on my number one s*** list
I had a black woman for my doctor. I was going to London soon and worried because I kept getting a "cold" every other week and asked her to fix me so I could enjoy my trip. She told me I did not have a "cold" and prescribed a medication for allergies and I felt wonderful and enjoyed my trip. Years later, my new female doctor (insurance changed, had to get another doctor) contacted that doctor and asked her for my medical record on that incident and was prescribed the same medication again. So, YES, not only are there black female doctors, but there are also really great black female doctors.
My town is mostly white but most of the doctors here are black or Asian.
That flight attendant needs to be fired. The ego of these flight attendants is getting out of hand.
“Are you a real flight attendant? What credentials do YOU have? Oh! You used to work 3rd shift at 7-11...”
Hey Jeeves!....Wooster here i been lookin' for ya :D
Well the devices your using to watch this wouldn't exist if it wasn't for a Muslim mathematician to discover algorithms.
Everybody who disagrees is going to say, "no this is just a isolated incident. Well we have decades showing many examples of "isolated incidents", if you examine the history and records. You clearly have no clue what it's like. that stupid flight attendant was still interrogating the doctor while the person needs medical attention.
Welcome to life as a Black person. You get scolded for not wanting to be educated and hard worker but once you do they don't believe you. Separation is the best answer.
Seems like it. At a minimum we need to take over an industry. Own the companies, so we can hire ourselves and pump the money back into the community.
i totally agree....it's the only solution. We can mingle with others but at the end of the day,we need to have something of our own to rely on and support us when others refuse to. This will never end as long as one has power/privilege over the other. Join the Bank Black Movement....they even got an attitude about us putting our money in black owned banks smh.
She was very unprofessional because she asked the doctors lots of questions and assumed the doctor was a liar.
It’s 2019 and racism still exists.
I always wanted to get my PhD in music so when some kind of medical emergency happened and someone screamed "is anyone a doctor!?" I could stand up and say "I'm a doctor...of funk!". Then a disco ball would come down from the ceiling and everyone would start dancing.
same thing happened to my brother in law, who happens to be Mexican and a doctor.
Oh, its Delta. Was someone injured as they were dragging him off the plane?
No that was United.
Wasn't it American Airlines? Damn that is important to remember. I forgot. United?
The surgeon and physician that OWNS the surgical center I worked for his black. When I was hired by the CEO,also a black man,who I later found out was the brother of this surgeon/owner. Of this family of children(grown) there are 4 DOCTOR'S that I am aware of. Never thought one way or another about the skin color of the boss. Was happy to be hired for the most highly rated center within 200 miles. The Delta rep--moron,should be returned to basic training for a new position---perhaps janitorial. Cleaning those aircraft after the people disembark. She can behave has poorly as she wishes to the empty seats. Needs to work on her heart condition,fix what ever motivates those ignorant thought's.
where am from 99% of the doctors are black. about half are women. what kind of bubble do these ppl live in
The bubble is called USA.
Back in the mid 80s my beautiful, black, female doctor, was also married, with children, and she looked like she was maybe 24. I had an outpatient procedure done and when she came in in her scrubs, she looked like she was about 18. Out of the context of her office, I might have been skeptical that this "24 year old" was a doctor with over 8 years of schooling and 2 years of internship, and a family, and can't say I wouldn't have been skeptical if she had been a Doogie Howser, or anyone who could have been described as a handsome, male doctor, married, with children, and looked like he was pushing 24. The beautiful doctor in THIS story ALSO looked like she was 18, so it wouldn't have mattered if she'd been a (white) Doogie Howser -- he'd also have been asked for credentials. How old was the other doctor? BTW, my beautiful female doctor was the head of the team who successfully delivered the 8 babies of "octomom".
I am 59 yrs. old and people think that I am 30 something! I have to almost fight off young men, who are in my kids age group. LOL! Black is beautiful.
Lynn Lobliner ohhhhh....i see... it's cuz she was a black but attractive....smh. you was just thinking about getting in that ass😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 stfu....😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Its just a color . we all have the same organs and were all ganna die one day
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I work for a female black Dr. She is in her late 50s. I can only imagine what she had to deal with as a young woman of color 30 years ago coming through med school.
Im black and im from Mississippi so I want to know why would he ever visit this place
reichen Miller his father lives there.
reichen Miller family
Shes a hero
My children's pediatrician, since birth, is a black woman. She is the best doctor ever, 21+ years of caring for my family. I still want to cry when I see this bullshit happen. Why are people so hateful?
I work in real estate. I get weird looks when I show houses. I wear natural hair, Have a curvy body, big lips and my skin is brown. One man did not shake my hand and rolled his eyes at me when he saw me.
It really does happen to us .
This is so sad, this is 2018 and people are still stereotyping, WOW.
Shannon Cunningham This is why the conversation. You say "wow," I say I feel and see it every day.
Why do flight attendants even talk or make decisions. They should just hand out beverages and food and fall back the rest of the flight.
well, yes. this case, yes. but if there's an accident in the air. then the whole picture changes. dramatically and instantly. This bimbo apart, I have a lot of time for flight attendants, cuz of what could happen and where i will turn for instructions if i want to stay alive.
well you are right, EXCEPT when something goes wrong with the plane, then guess who determines whether you live or die, and whose directions you will gulp and be glad to follow -- that same attendant who was pouring your drink and handing you napkins. So there is some basis for really respecting the crew, I always bear in mind, whether they're cleaning the bathroom or telling me haughtily to sit down and shut up or saving my sorry ass when the plane gets into trouble. This is ALL THE MORE REASON why the flight attendant displaying racist discrimination against the helpful doctor in jeans or however she was dressed, is offensive and objectionable. She wields covert authority, and alas, she expresses covert racist stereotypes. We shouldn't really gang up, as she only is displaying what is latent in our white supremacist culture all the time anyway.
Wow thanks you guys for covering this topic. I love the way you each allow the other person to fully finish especially when you actually allow yourself to be shock about the purse that moment when he pulse and said he never paid that much attention to the purse and the dialog after was priceless
This is absolutely insane. No one should be judged because of their gender or ethnicity. The flight attendants should feel ashamed that they disbelieved her. All she wanted to do was help a passenger and they would not let her.
I am an Indian ... when I see or hear such discrimination incidences in the US ... I am more sure, Americans r not discriminating...but extremely uneducated !!
...which LEADS to D.I.S.C.R.I.M.I.N.A.T.IO.N.
See that’s where your wrong. Uneducated leads to the name calling and racial profiling because they don’t have the brains to know otherwise. Not all Americans are uneducated so you should really retract your statement
This is pure racism sweetie let’s not get it twisted.
It's racist. Period. What kind of education do you need to know that people of all races enjoy all professions? It's racists beliefs that make someone believe that a black person isn't capable of practicing medicine, law, being an architect, or anything other than their (the racist person's) stereotype. That is racism, and it exists even in the most educated. Edit: Don't make excuses for it by labeling it as simply being uneducated. That's almost as disgusting as racism itself.
Gotta love all the people on here making racist comments about 'Aparna's' Indian identity whilst they complain about racism!
If that's not 'uneducated' then it certainly is 'hard of thinking' at the very least!
Do some background check on this story. She didn't provide credentials to prove she was a doctor. There were other medical personal on the plane did have credentials on hand, who Timika Cross might have not seen other Delta personal checking. As it seems this is being reported from mainly Timika's perspective. Also other reports also say there were more medical staff available besides Timika and the male doctor.
Why didn't Delta let Timika Cross help? Lawsuits. Delta is responsible for the safety and health of their passengers. If they let Timika help that passenger who was in trouble, they could have face a lawsuit if Timika was making stuff up. This happens in many business and the like.
Now about how the flight attendant's tone and such, I'm not flight attendant but I'm pretty sure their first goal if a medical emergency happens is to keep that person isolated, area clear and the surrounding masses calm. Hell it could have been the first time that flight attendant was put in that kind of situation and that could cause someone to panic.
Do some better journalism and get more than just one person's testimony before reporting on a story. The flight attendant did go back and offer apologies and such, but if your only focusing on Timika's point of view she is going to look like a bigger victim than what played out, and thats just perspective and how we as humans see the world and our surroundings.
I have a Q; why do people want to live in the USA?
She should be sacked this is absolutely disgusting
It's was probably a trump supporter, if you don't agree please don't reply unless you are gonna fight me
I wonder if people ever think about how there could be an emergency and a doctor, who is not on the job is near and wont help due to being held liable so they wont assist. why would someone lie about being a doctor when someone else's life is on the line, she is a physician in a different state of her destination and was going for personal reasons, she wasn't going for work reasons so she is not obligated to have it on her all the time. If that was me or my family member i would not waste precious time knowing help is a couple of seats away.
Being a non white in USA must be very hard even if you have qualified
sharma uldheere trust me it’s not.
That's the reality of today. Stereotypes still exist. If you're black and a doctor, a lot of people are still surprised at that. If you're asian and an athlete, a lot of people are surprised at that...
Ok a bit of fact checking. According to Black Star Atlanta, in an article called "Delta Airline Passenger Almost Dies Because Flight Crew Didn't Believe A Black Woman Was A Doctor". The article states the man did show his identification and it's only Cross who sates he didn't. First question to ask, is how can we know Cross was privy to every interaction between the flight crew and the male doctor? If you can answer this, you might have a better idea if there really was discriminations involved. Now remember, according to the source I cite, it is only Cross who clams the male doctor didn't show identification. To say she's an unreliable witness is an understatement. Her account needs to be corroborated.
atlantablackstar.com/2016/10/13/delta-airline-passenger-almost-dies-because-flight-crew-didnt-believe-black-woman-board-was-doctor/
It says the opposite.
If I missed something please point it out.
No it doesn't. The paragraph in question states.
"Cross pointed out that the white man never showed his credentials"
So yes you most certainly did miss something.
Hugh O'Toole So you're not going to point it out.
You said the article said the man did show his credentials.
The point is we have to see what the investigation gives.
We shouldn't assume either way.
"Thanks for the help, but he can help us, he has his credentials".
Yes I would say the article stated he did show his credentials. I think you misread what I meant by that.
"We shouldn't assume either way"
Why do I get the feeling that you were assuming a particular way. Maybe it's the quasi-accusations regarding how I'm "acting" in that other thread.
Hugh O'Toole That was not from the article though that's an excerpt from the woman's post.
Were do you get that assumptions?
I just had a suspicion you automatically believed Delta, which it seems you do.
I'm being rational and waiting for the investigation.
I believe there are several on here that have had negative happenings because of their race. My 1st name has always been associated as as "Irish" name and all of my life, from grade school until now, whenever my name was called, people would be shocked to see me respond. I am from PA and was privileged to grow up in a wonderful, multi-ethnic town and attend a great school district and University. While I lived in WV for a short time, I had a job interview at a college in the town I was living in. At the time, I had a BA, as well as other credentials, and had worked for several well-knows companies in PA. The HR Rep (who was a White woman) accused me of forging my resume, starting with my name. She accused me of lying about my degree, as well as my work experience saying there was no way I could have the education I listed, and the work background. She began to question me about every company seeing if I was going to say something opposite of what was on my resume. Eventually, she stood up and ordered me to leave her office due to forgery and she would never hire "someone like me" to work there. That was a kick in my stomach. The more things change...the more they stay the same.
Happened to me leaving California I'm a Mastered degree registered for I had to show all 3 of my licenses before I could help....meanwhile the girl passed out on the floor. Smdh
I'm sure there is no possibility that it was because she looked young? Or another reason?