Fender Princeton Reverb 65 and 68 Comparison
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- Опубліковано 11 лип 2019
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These amps are both just oozing tone from their luscious tubes and speakers. Both so good I could not decide although I lean toward the Celestion speakers. Let me know which one you prefer in the comments.
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65 wins for me... I've had both of these amps and got rid of them both. Now I want my 65 back, and I already have a 65 Deluxe Reverb! For smaller gigs and recording, the Princeton is perfect.
This was brilliant and thank you so much for making this, it’s exactly what I was looking for. I had the vintage and was looking for a second, after hearing this I ordered the ‘68 Custom as my second. Thanks again.
ive not tried the black one
but trust me the silver one is a fantastic amplifier
you will sit and play with that all day long great sounds for blues
theres something magic about those amps
Great video, Rick!
PS - I like so much the 65 that Im trying to build one myself. Im just someone who likes to put the hands to work, so its just a gigantic task. Drawing PCBs by hand and so on... Creativity is what you need living in Brasil hehe. Wish me luck please guys!
Mate if you are going to build one forget the PCB’s do it old school like the originals. Point to point check out Mojotone and others they supply ladder boards and all the components you need. If I was building one I wouldn’t bother with printed circuits. Old way is easier for maintenance and repair, do yourself a big favour and load it with a 12” speaker of your choice celestion alnico blue is a good one. I don’t think you’ll be disappointed buddy.
Paul Watson prob OS a good Idea. All O build so far este pedals and small amps for practicing. Alô from scratch inclusive enclosures. O never been out of pcbs... gonna teu most if poder cost which are ultrageous here in Brasil...To give a picture: a single 2sjxxx can reach about (If I can find it) 25,00 usd. If I have to import reaches 75,00 usd... About the speakers I use Electroharmonix... Celestions and Eminence are hard do fins and a little expensive. But thank foi again!
Nice comparison of these two very cool amps. I prefer the 65 but would be happy with either of them.
Excellent demos!
So good to hear these compared but with the 68 eq’d for itself rather than like for like. Makes me lean towards the 68
I just ordered a '68. I've been wanting it for a long time. Thanks for the video!
jalapeno warrior Awesome!
Im just waiting on mine now...How did you get on?
I like the extra dirt/crunch of the ‘68.
I already had a 68 Custom Princeton Reverb (slightly modded including a Celestion Gold speaker) and the 65 Princeton Tweed which I also threw in a Celestion Gold swapping the Eminence Cannabis Rex into my Blues Junior. The Junior took an instant liking tot he Cannabis Rex and the Tweed loved the Gold. I just order the 65 Princeton Reverb reissue via Sweetwater. I am a HUGE fan of the Princeton's and find they give me enough volume for the venues I play in, especially if the house has a solid PA system. I play in a contemporary non-denomination church and we cover a lot of modern songs (Elevation Worship/Jesus Culture, Passion, Bethel Worship, Hillsong United, etc, and these amps mixed with the rest of the band mates (lead guitarist, acoustic guitarist, keys, aggressive drummer and bass player, and vocals) via the PA system in our church gives me a lot of umph with the various OD pedals, pre-amp pedals, and others. I run in stereo and will sometimes use Deluxe Reverbs, but often return to these Princeton's. Light weight, easy to store, transport and love pedals. BTW Rich, a big Thank You for the demo and using the Baja Telecaster and HSS Strat. Don't know where you live but I sure wouldn't mind taking a lesson from you to learn new techniques. Awesome guitar work you do on all of your video's. PS: Yes, the 68 does have a "darker" tone to it. I changed pots in the treble and bass positions just to give me a less dark/muffled tone. Made a difference yet not so much as to ruin it. Always looking for the tonal quality that makes my ears "Happy"
Good comparison. I looked at both of these closely before I bought mine.
I now know I bought the right one, and I am happy with the sound signature.
I loved your video. At first I thought your intro was a little long, but then I saw the message and time stamp to where the talking started. One of my pet peeves is Reviews that start with 20 .minutes of jamming. Your actual review was straight forward though I would have liked knowing the settings on the amps. In another comment your reply said you went into the DAW so was the sound shaped from that or the amps? The microphone placements are different, so are you single the speaker placement are different? I can't imagine they would be. Lastly, is the Celestion Greenback standard in the 68?
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Thanks!
Gorgeous!
339 pro is such a good guitar. Most comfortable to play guitar I've had.
@Rich Bischoff you can play a guitar EXTREMELY well... VERY tasteful
In this video 68 sounds better to me, although in other videos, Ive liked the 65 more. Much clean and clearer definition.
Great video and I have to say that I know prefer the 68 but they both sound amazing. Which one would you say sounds better a lower volumes, I will using it extensively in my bedroom so to speak with a custom shop tele and PRS McCarty 594. I am really looking for the best clean tones at the lower volumes ideally not using pedals at all.
I'll take the 68 all day. A little more low end in that bassman circuit. Gotta love it through the 10" greenback. It was made for it. The 65 probably cuts through the mix better but that's what EQ's are for. I'll probably have to get a hold of my guy Zach at sweetwater now thank you very much. It would sound real good in a wet-dry set up with my Friedman pt20. Holy shiot 😜
Sounds great
Personal taste I like the 65. It really depends on what sounds good to your ear.
great demo, great playing only now I am more confused! I prefer the '65, it sounds deeper to me.
I have the 68 and I love it, it’s more warm, the 65 it’s more scooped.
I want one!
Hey Rich, Mike here, I'm going to buy the 65 Princeton tomorrow (today is 26/07/2020) but I was a bit undecided. I don't know where in the US you live, I live in Lisbon, Portugal it's like southern California without the crime (Portugal is the 3rd safest country in the world) without Hollywood but with possibly better beaches and 2000 years of history. I'm Canadian but have been here long and also a Portuguese citizen. You should come visit and surf 60 foot waves...I'm not joking we have so far the biggest waves in the world bigger than in Hawaii. Thanks for the vid I'm going with the 65.
I would love to visit! I live in Utah. Sounds amazing! Have fun with the 65!
Both great amps. I went with the 68 myself. Just had a fuller sound to my ears. The 65 sounded a bit scooped to me. I still might get a 65 in the future. I did put a Celestian Alnico Gold in my 68. Wow!!! Princeton’s are the bomb! Love them.
I just got a 2020 pretty much brand new 65 at a steal, it did die on me which sucks .. is not the fuse ..i think is the power transformer.. 2 days prior it did a very loud crackle that stoped when i tapped the volume knob, last moments where me Playing at 9 vol or 10 volume started droping slowly and then, just like when you kill a Terminator, the light went off.. i was using a Bugera attenuator, which I don’t believe was the cause .. anyway i got massively out of subject here lol.. for me the 68 sounded better. Glassier and less mid range.. when distorted also less compression, like i feel the 65 is father away from a Deluxe, still great amp cant wait to know what it is to fix it.. I was in the Blues Jr age for a while and na.. just rather have a Monoprice for that fender Tone
Getting a 65 Princeton very soon Rich! Thanks for the demos
Jealous!
@@RichBischoff thought I'd come back n let you know the Princeton has a home! I managed to find the Wine Red one with the 12 inch Jensen. Brand new only one in the local area. The used market was barren. Heck even new no Guitar Center had these in stock except for the one I went to. I love it so much. I'll never need another amp.
@@mattmanley7118 Congrats Matt! Jealous. As soon as I am in a spot to get a Princeton, I am doing it.
@@RichBischoff do it You won't regret it it's been 2 days with this thing and it's been a glorious 2 days. Sell your soul if you have to.
What a great comparison! Thank you!! Can you clarify the volume, bass, and treble settings on both amps? Thx!
Thanks. Volume 3, EQ, they were all around 5 or 6.
The 65 to me was cleaner, and also seemed to cut through better than the 68. For me it would be the 65.
The 68 is like Woodstock and the 65 is like Southern Texas. The 68 is creamy and the 65 is dry. Both awesome.
The '65 smokes a pipe. The '68 smokes Marlboros.
Funny.
you like those bass pickups huh LOL... great video, but would've loved to hear the bridge pickups on the tele and 339 with those amps
Yeah man I'm a sucker for that bluesy neck pickup sound. Thanks for watching!
I did an extensive comparison, before settling on the 65 Blackface. More Chimey, Harmonics, Note-definition & Clean Headroom (which is what I was after) = However both are Excellent and I was Surprised & Impressed with the ReIssues. If you want another Phenomenal Small Amp - look into the Mesa Rectoverb 25 - It's a Fire Breathing Dragon with Gorgeous almost-Fender-like cleans. Enjoyed your video, oNe LovE from NYC
Thanks!
I just can't decide. I have an eye on a FSR 68 with celestion greenback, but I admit the clean sound of 65 is georgeous...and maybe worth teeming up with my tweed blues junior (greenback loaded)...i could also use that greenback as extension cab. Luxury dilemma
@@gilh3947 Hahahaha. You really can't go wrong with either one. (however) . . . "The Clean Sound of the 65 is Gorgeous" = (your words, i'm just agreeing with you). Good Luck.
@@michael_caz_nyc don t laugh, it is a very serious disease😁
I recently acquired a used Mesa Dual Rectoverb 25. My first Mesa amp. I totally agree with you. The clean tones are equally as good as Fender. I did not get that amp for its clean tones. But what a pleasant surprise. I own a 65 Princeton RRI. I never heard the 68 silver face. It sounds a bit fuller and beefier, brighter with a less scooped midrange than the 65. I like the brighter clean tones. I need more time with my 65. and continue listening to demos of the 68 to decide if I should make a switch. They both sound great in your video!!!
This review was really helpful in comparing the two Princeton’s, so thank you. Today, I tried and bought a ‘65 Reissue. I have to say, your review pretty much persuaded me but trying the ‘65 was a revelation. I wasn’t expecting such clarity and liveliness and it was so easy to get the sound I was looking for. In fact, I’m finding the Princeton has a ‘hi-fi’ quality that brutally exposes poor technique and is pushing me to clean up my act!
That's awesome Chris!
Hey Rich, great comparison! I'm trying to decide between the two of these amps to use at home with pedals. In your video it sounds like the 68 takes pedals better even though it's a little dirtier. Any thoughts?
I have the 65 and I can tell you that both amps take pedals well, but they are just a bit different. The 65 is more mid-scooped and classic fender sparkle. Sounds fantastic clean and semi-clean. A tubescreamer (mid-pushed) works very well with the 65 for classic TS tones like SRV or Mayer. Something like a Klone or KOT type pedal would also work great. I think of the 68 as perhaps better if you prefer slightly higher gain tones, mildly overdriven to a bit more driven rock. Its partly the speaker and also amp EQ and how it breaks up (less harsh) when driven
Just got the 68 man 5 hrs. playing addictive as always great playing my only complain headroom clean but I'm going to try getting an eq to raise the volume on clean setting between 4 and 5
I am jazz guitarist and checked out the 65 because I really thought it would be the right amp, but it did not sound near as warm to me as the 68. I was using a P90, but still it was thin and very bright (trebly, but not in a good way,). I wonder what the 65 with the 12" speaker sounds like. Great and helpful video. Thanks
I have a 68 custom Princeton reverb and I realized the secret of how to set it. The issue with the amp is a resistor on the tone stack that makes this amp more like a bassman amp. Hear me out. The issue is not that the amp has more bass, it’s that there is a preset amount of low mids. Because of this, even if you turn the bass off, there’s always a very present low end.
However, set the volume to 5, the treble to 8 and the bass to 5 and turn the volume on your guitar down to 3-4 and you will have the beautiful fender clean sound, very much like a standard Princeton. By raising the treble and bass, you effectively scoop the low mids that make this amp sound weird in a lot of demos. Even better, turn up the volume knob on your guitar and you have the best breakup in a small fender amp that I have heard.
This took a while to get to. You cannot just leave your guitar volume on 10 and set the amp the same as you would another Princeton. This amp is it’s own thing. Explore it and you’ll be rewarded.
Jonathandavidk
Absolutely
This should be done with all non master volume amps
I don't have either of these amps, nor have I played them, but after watching a few of the comparisons, I definitely like the 68 better. It seems to have more body, and it's a little less bright and not as brittle as the 65. Brittle may not be the perfect word, but I think you get the idea. if I decide to get one of these babies, it will be the 68 for me, for sure.
SriniP
You will never regret the decision to get a 68 custom Princeton, unlike a thousand other regretful purchases that can come in the guitar world (bit crusher pedal!)
@@lomoholga Thanks! I watched a few more videos, and my impression is still the same. They say the tone stack has been changed to the Bassman circuit, and if so, that would have been my preference anyway.
SriniP it’s great as long as you take the time to eq it. I went from putting it on Craigslist to now using it as my main amp just because I spent the time to try every treble and bass configuration. Dial it in and you’ll love it.
very good!!!
I can't decide...Thanks Rick...now I need both to supplement my Bassbreaker 30R.. Haha
Wet Dry Wet! Do it!
Dramatic trebles on 65, I like very much! But just in case, better have them both lol
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The 65 with a Greenback speaker is perfect!
Absolutely! A G12M (12 inch) in this amp works really well, and add extra volume as well.
Rich,
I recently returned a '68 Custom Deluxe Reverb because of the low noise floor and high hiss levels. I just couldn't get past it. Does the '65 Princeton have an issue with idle hiss? I know that all tube amps by nature will have some noise, but the hiss on the '68 CDR was so bad that it would be absolutely useless in a recording situation.
Thank you for all of the content.
It had some noise but nothing major that I noticed.
I'll take both because why not.
The '68 Custom is slightly lower wattage - 12 as opposed to the 15 the '65 is rated at - and between that and the low negative feedback, it's a touch-sensitive darling. It loves to take front-end compression (which raises its clean headroom, incidentally), and overdrives readily when pushed with a little boost. It doesn't sound classically "Fender-y" like the more faithful Blackface reissues -- it has some of the harmonic mojo of a Supro or a tweed Deluxe. It's not going to give you a ton of clean volume on stage. You have to run it through a PA to fill a building. But for recording applications, it's tremendous!
Excellent Video Rich! The 65 sounds thin and spikey in comparison to the 68 IMO. I have both amps myself, and run them in stereo. it's a glorious sound! But when I just want to play one amp with my band I use the 68. Sounds fuller in the low-mids, and it cuts through better overall. I've also put Alnico Gold speakers in both. Such great amps.
im ew to this which speaker brand is the gold?
@@sooparticular Celestion alnico gold 10" for about 210.00, unless you find a used one on Reverb or something.
@@ChadWork1 thank you!!
They both sound great, I can't decide whether I want to get the 68 and put a 10 inch greenback in it or go with the 65 and a darker speaker.
Switching the stock Jensen in the 65 with an Eminence Copperhead speaker made a world of difference. More bass, less shrill and it can handle acoustic electric guitars without buzzing
Nice demo, showing many aspects of both amps. Imo, neither amp is better, they’re just different. The 68 has a warmer, rounder, more viscous tone, the 65 has a sharper, slimmer sound that everything else being equal, has an easier time cutting through the mix.
Agreed!
Seems to me that the 65 has more balls hahaha.
Yes like A Blond or Brunette. What's your preference?? Ha Ha Ha!!!
@@danabiondo9243 which either one talks the least and cooks the most
That's an excellent and very helpful comparison! I'm thinking about upgrading my Super Champ X2 and this 65 DRRI x 65 PRRI x 68 Custom Deluxe Reverb x 68 Custom Princeton has taken me into a rabbit hole of forums and youtube videos. By the way... do you have a favorite?
If i was going to pull the trigger on one I'd do the 68. Just a little fatter tone to my ears.
@@RichBischoff Thanks for your reply!
Welcome!
Sorry for the inconvenience ! ..
I am between the American performer tele and the vetera modified 60 ( basically the baja tele ) ..
I saw you playing both so what do you recommend honestly ?
I like them both, but I own the baja. I feel like you can get more unique sounds with the Baja.
Rich Bischoff very grateful for the quick answer .. I trust your taste and I will go for it .
Man you have a very decent channel full of great playing and honest ideas .. hope it keeps growing forever .
What dirt pedal are you using in the beginning with the tele? I wonder how the comparison would be if you swapped the speakers from one to the other. The jensen in the 68 and the celestion in the 65. I don't think you could go wrong with either one of these amps.
Fulltone ocd
Thank you for an excellent review, and the very nice playing. It has been really helpful. Tomorrow I am going to test the 68. But honestly, I am bit put off by its darker tones. However they say the 68 takes better the pedals. What do you think?
Thanks! I agree, I feel like it takes pedals better,
Skytalker777 Did you like it?
Hi my friend :) It's again me 😎
Did you use any pedals while playing?
Or just amp sounds perfectly like that? 🙄
Fulltone OCD for the drive sounds.
@@RichBischoff thank you so much. I love blackface and reverb tones, so I want to buy Princeton Reverb 65. However it is so expensive :/
Blues Junior is also a good option👍🙂
I can relate. I'd love a princeton, but I'd have to sell a few things to be able to afford it.
I feel the 68 is better for live and 65 better for recording.
The 68 has a catchy thing that encourages to play. The 65 is more precise, therefore better suited to take its place in a mix.
What volume was each amp at? When did each begin to breakup?
Nice comparison...
What are you using to toggle back and forth between the two amps. i am looking for something that is similar for using two amps. Thanks. (Gave a Sub)..
Phil
NYC Area
Thanks a-b-y switcher pedal.
@@RichBischoff I appreciate the info Rich.
I believe actually have one of those somewhere buried in my studio. I thought you needed a switcher with a transformer to decouple the amps to prevent any noise/hum. I think I read that from the Mesa Boogie site because they make such a pedal. So if a basic A-B-Y pedal will work, that would be great welcomed news.
Phil
NYC Area
Great video man! What preamps did you use in this vid?
Actually I just went direct into my DAW, so whatever pres are on the presonus 1818 vsl.
@@RichBischoff Thank you :)
65 is made in USA while the 68 is made in Mexico. Not that it matters but to some out there it does. Personally I like 65 when I played next to the 68. I’d be happy with either one though
Same, they really are just great amps.
Rich Bischoff yeah man. Also, the crowd will never notice unlike us gear heads. awesome playing man, and thanks for the vid that actually compares them both.
For me the 68 it sounds fuller
It is interesting to note, that having read through all of the comments below, Mr. Bischoff *alternates* between liking the '68 best and also liking the '65 best. Either it is a very difficult choice as to preference, or perhaps tastes change over time. Or both.
I liked them both for different reasons.
The blackface is King, I want one it's just a matter of time. I love the way it reacts to my playing. Everything I could want.
make sure to check out the princetown reverb silver face
thats ya daddy
@@1willywonker not a chance. Hahaha, not my daddy , I can't love a 68 silver face anything . A bad taste in my mouth.
Hi Rich, it is again me :)
In your opinion In your opinion, does fender twin reverb provide better reverb or blues junior + boss rv 500 reverb pedal?
(For home practice)
Or, how can I get the best reverb sound?
I'd get a TC Hall Of Fame 2 pedal. Then you'll never worry about reverb again because you'll have access to so many good ones.
Ok, which amp combines with that pedal the best? (I love clean sound as well)
(For home practice, maybe someyimes stage)
Would you use Blues Junior, right?
I'm stuck between the two. I really love the clarity of the 65 but I love the flexibility and look of the 68. Which one should I get? Help!
I personally like the 68.
What's Your Inner Voice Say?
Yup, the '68 is all mellow and scooped and laid-back ... until it gets the spurs.
every time you switch amps I think that amp sounds better.😂😂
Ha
@@RichBischoff Solutions is to get both, then run them together.
Both sounds great, however the hiss is very annoying when playing at low volumes at home..especially with reverb and tremelo on. I used it in the shop and it was ok due to all the background noise, at home it was a disapointment.
does the 65 have a lot of hiss as well? i've heard that the 68 does
Oh man, these two sound so much better than Boss Katana! Wonder why that is? ;P btw, 65 sounds best clean but 68 sounds awesome in gain mode! Still the 68 has a Greenback so turning down the Bass on the amp would help a lot to get it a bit less boomy!
I think the 68 (Greenback) sounds MUCh better in the mix at the start of your vid! Love the way you give us both perspectives ; in the mix and just the guitar later on! Well done!
Thanks man! I love both those amps.
The 68 has a Celestion 10-30
68 appears to me to be too boomy? can that be because of the settings?
do you get buzz in the 68 princeton?
Rich, I'm so torn here. I loved them equally at different times for different reasons.
Yeah, I feel your pain!
@@RichBischoff LOL!
I'm on the fence. I love the eq and compression of the 68, but that speaker rattles like nothing else. I guess I could always swap it out for a Jensen, right?
Yup
I took the g10 out of my 68 and replaced it with an Eminence ragin cajun...sounds much better now.
I’m in the same predicament! I couldn’t decide so bought both and need to return one. Not sure which is gonna go though. I wonder if putting a Celestion in the PRRI would give me the best of both worlds. 🤔
Thanks for the great comparison.
Good idea, Never hurts to try!
I have a PRRI and I put an Eminence Legend in it. I got tons more low end and headroom out of it, sound way more "Fender" when cranked loud :D
I have the 68 and a tele and love that combination. What overdrive pedal did you kick in at around 1.00?
It's like the boss blues driver model in Helix.
The reverb on the 65 just sounds more "correct". They modified the verb circuits on the 68's and they sound duller and more neutered. That being said the extra low end girth and warmth in the 68 is quite pleasing. So... overall tone of 68 wins but verb of the 65 wins.
I got both and the 68 has way more mojo.i had 3 65s and dumped them all.
I didn't notice much comment regards to in the room volume, im guessing pretty loud...Can either of these sound good at more sane, home type volume?
Yeah the amps weren't up way loud for the demo. You can get the princeton's to a reasonable volume of you need to.
@@RichBischoff Hey thanks for the GAS enablement! :) (appreciate the reply) Was a great test, have been wondering the difference of the two and doing a test drive is vitually impossible these days. Really appreciate the video.
@@marksvideochannel3592 Welcome.
@@RichBischoff Found a 68 used locally here in NZ, dying for it to arrive. Im back trawling videos and found your and my comments here I had forgotten! Wanted to thank you for the videos. A huge help.
Glad I could help.
To my ear, the 68 sounded more open, airy, and reedy, whereas the 65 sounded darker and more sterile. How does the noise floor on each compare?
I don’t think anyone would describe the 65 as “dark”. 65 is clean with that familiar Fender black face “sparkle”. The 68 isn’t “traditional” and a much darker amp geared to breakup sooner. I find the 68 kind wooly if not a tad muddy and the 65 a bit scooped in the mids and glassy overall.
Both very nice amps it just depends on what you play and what you like to hear.
Me I’m more into Knopfler SRV Hendrix Gilmour Townshend etc… I like the 65.
which one has more mids ?
I have the baja too and just purchased the Princeton Reverb 65. Unfortunately I just found out when i'm playing at home, when i mute the strings sounds great, when Im not playing, it sounds a weird sound. Like static but very very loud. After several opinions, technocians told me is the normal sound but is just annoying. I was reading it might be because the guitar needs to be landed. I have the baja since a year and a half and never notice anything similar until sunday with my new Princeton. I just tried through a Vox AC15C1 and same thing. Weird thing is maybe I just noticed that. No issues with the amp at all. In a nutshell tone is awsome but when i stop playing is not good and i'm playing on volumen 4. What do u think? Anything similar with your gear?
Might be bad power, or the cable, I am not sure unless I could be there and hear it. Noise suppressor gate pedal might be a cure.
@@RichBischoff thanks for your quick answer!
Definitely sounds like your guitar needs to be grounded. It is possible that maybe the ground wire broke loose recently, which may be why you haven't noticed it before. Also, maybe you are turning the PRRI and/or Vox up louder than with previous whatever-amp-you-might-be-using, which would also increase the noise floor and perceived 60-cycle hum. First steps: try grounding your guitar, then try shielding the guitar. If that works, perfect. If not, then a noise gate or compressor at mild/low settings may help reduce noise (but a compressor with high compression will actually increase the noise floor).
@@seanmgeorge thanks a lot for the advice!! I will check out definetily what you say!
Would the 65 work with an extension cab, with celestion greenback
Yes, there is output for an extension cab.
@@RichBischoff Thanks for responding. I will try it.
These amps sound so good it's ridiculous. Get both for stereo! In any case, I have the 65. The 68 sounds just as good. I went for the 65 even though it was about $100 more, but it is assembled in the USA. I also have the 64 hand-wired deluxe reverb reissue - an amp I absolutely love. I tried some of the boutique amps, including Tone King, Magnatone and Morgan. No thanks, although I think the Morgan PR12 is a damn good sounding amp as well.
Robert Pajkovski is the 64 that much more expressive than the 65? I haven't yet found a proper comparison and the 64 is hard to find in person. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
@@kkapoun I don't think comparing the 65 Princeton to the 64 hand-wired deluxe reverb is a fair comparison. The 64 contains a 12" speaker and is 22 watts. It is very dynamic and really has that vintage fender tone. First time I played it I heard 50s, 60s, and 70s music all come through it. It's just a superb amp - surf, motown, funk, chuck berry and buddy holly, clean-tone hendrix, and classic rock, etc. It's obviously not a metal amp. I actually drove 5 hours to a music store that had it in stock, and they had Morgan, Friedman, Magnatone, and Tone King (Imperial MKII and the Big Sky). I almost fell for that boutique marketing but I really wanted a hand-wired amp. The Fender 64 is had that extra sparkle and chime that all other amps lack. I had a hard time deciding between the Tone King Big Sky and the Fender 64, but ultimately it was that extra sparkle and chime that pushed me toward the Fender 64. Big Sky is also heavy and dark sounding - maybe good for blues at least. The 65 Princeton is a nice amp, and I like to play it - unlike my blues deluxe. If that's in your budget, then get it and don't look back. I've tried so many amps, and recently tried a Swart - I prefer my 65 Princeton. But if you have an extra $1,000, then go for the 64 hand-wired. You will have an amp that will be with you for the rest of your life. If I didn't think it was that good I would tell you because I am so sick of guitarists on youtube promoting equipment that basically suck.
Robert Pajkovski thanks so much for the reply! I’m tempted to give the 64 a shot! Final question, does it take pedals well? I assume it’s versatile but if it’s differentiation is in the clean sound only that might change my mind. Thanks again!
Karel Kapoun yes it does. Modulation pedals sound great, and the reverb in the amp is great too. Boost pedals, buffers and overdrive pedals - all great. Breakup when driven sounds awesome. Makes you want to play all day. But you’ll love just hearing the amp all alone with out pedals too. Sounds great for jazz too of course.
I’m sold!
are you using any pedal? or is the distortion natural? if you are using pedals what kind are they?
The boss blues driver.
@@RichBischoff Cool thanks =)
I WANT the 68 now!
Me too. Like I need another guitar amp...not.
Both of these amps share the same transformer and tube reverb/trem circuits. Both have tube reverbs and tremolos. Here is a good explanation of the differences: d1aeri3ty3izns.cloudfront.net/media/12/127791/download_127791.pdf
68 sounds more mid-scooped.
Any problems with grille cloth buzzing or rattling ?
No
All Tones so very good. But the 65 is better for me. Because I do not like the sliver face color.
Yeah, but that blue light on the Silver is awesome! LOL
@@RPSartre01 I Agree !
I had both and sold the 68 because of the hiss and the ticking tremolo. The 68 was unusable in the studio.
When you switch to the 65 at 2:40... 🥰😍🤩
The farting these amps are known for was gloriously absent with the fender guitar, once you used the epi the farting started and it didn't sound so good.with a Tele you can't go wrong but sadly so many clips of Princeton's farting like a Mexican out there. Did you take any steps to reduce the flub ?
Haha, not really just plug and played.
I like the 65 better
Same
Apples and slightly different apples
Noticeable volume drop from the 65 to the 68 to me
Why does the 68 sound so much louder?
Just bought a 65 RI with a 12 inch Cannabis T-Rex. It's forcing me to be a better player! :-)
The 68 totally outshines the 65
Volume at??
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@@RichBischoff nice. Tomorow I will modify my 68 PR. with my technician to leave it Blackface. Regards
68 sounds better with pedals
Here is a ‘68 RI with a Celestion G10 Gold
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The only logical solution is to go in debt and get both to run in stereo lol.
68 sounds drummy