The best part of this is remembering walking past the "air duct", and trying to speculate to my wife why a building that size would need one that big...
I like that Sharks! has the “!” because in theater if a show title includes an “!” at the end it means it’s a musical. So the singing sharks makes so much sense when you see it’s title. Love it.
First, even Antepavilion likes this video as it is embedded on their page. Nice job Grey! Second, last news on the Sharks! is from February of 2023, where one lone shark is on a river barge next to the warehouse to test the waters. Seems someone at the Antevilion office liked Grey's idea ; )
People asking about how this fits in the CGP Grey timeline. It’s part of both the *riding* *my* *bike* *around* *London* and the *falling* *down* *the* *research* *rabbit* *hole* eras.
Arguably, one cannot say which era they reside within until it is over, maybe we'll see a new era of CGPGrey, one based off the facts of art and creativity perhaps?
I can imagine it now. 5 sharks just want to perform a ballet, but get stopped at every turn by the evil zoning board. Everytime they try one place, they get shut down. Eventually, a kind patron invites the sharks to perform on a nice waterfront in front of a park and a school, and all the children enjoy the sharks (and pick up ballet), and the sharks get a standing ovation and flowers and all.
Grey knows that as soon as he posts a video for a cause (like promoting sharks and punching zoning boards & saving snow days), his fans will begin pushing for it since we don't get that many videos. A plus for a slow schedule! But for real, though. Grey, hire more people and just pump out more videos, this only expands your presence! It's a tradeoff between the meaningfulness of each video vs the additional "presence" and increased audience they reach. Go for the latter!
@@lucasleanza9762 I respectfully disagree as well, most channels that start pumping out weekly content often loose my interest, Grey however never did.
The thousands of public servant manhours, the bureaucratic spiderweb of litigation, and the sheer pettiness of it all. Something about this is so incredibly British. The confrontation as a whole was the art all along!
Come to think of it, yeah, I like the stance he’s taking on sort of stripping away any politics from these things and just saying “listen certain things just make the world a happier place and really should be left alone”
Only in the modern era of artistic expression and simultaneous bureaucracy could a group of art promoters turn a legal battle into an art project in and of itself.
Technically speaking wouldn't most battles be battles over property rights? Both world wars, the Glorious Revolution in Britain, the Bolshevik revolution in Russia, The American Revolution, the Vietnam war against France... Mostly deciding who's stuff and who's land is who's and what rights they have to govern it? Is all of Russia the Tsar's or *"Ours?"* Is all of Europe Germany's or not Germany's? Is America for the colonizers or the colonialists (definitely not the natives why would you ask such a silly question). Legal disputes are just what happens when symmetrical warfare is not an available option due to a higher power or severe asymmetry of power.
So as a quick update, since this recently re-emerged on my front page, the Hackney litigation is ongoing, but the 2021 competition appeared to be the most lively yet. The winning entry, titled Antechamber, is meant to fold up quickly and be transported around if necessary. What probably put Antechamber over the top is that it used repurposed materials from the dismantled Potemkin Theatre, the 2019 winner. The shortlisted runner-ups included a piece titled "Hackney Injunction," "False Negative," a screen which created an optical illusion of a missing chunk of the warehouse, and "Scaffolding Hackney," which is a scaffold against the bridge that allows pedestrians to climb up to the Antepavilion roof.
Unfortunately, it seems Sharks! lost the battle. As of Oct 22nd it appears the courts ruled Antepavilion does not own the rights to the water in front of their building and thus cannot launch Sharks! into the waterways ever again. There's a lot of legal crapola I might have misread, but that was my take on the situation.
okay but seriously. put the Sharks! on the barge, give them pirate hats, let them illegally sail the canals as shark pirates. they're basically 90% there already
A bunch of artsy anarchists continuously trolling the the authorities over their nonsensical and exploitative zoning policy using urban pop up art wasn't the story I was expecting from Grey but I am here for it.
Just realized it also probably the reason a lot of the video is filmed, compared to the usual animated videos, he had to cute anything he could from the video-making process to be able to publish it while it still relevant
"No, you can't have them over there either." "Why not?" "Because it's a conservation area!" "Well their extinct, we're conserving them," "They are made out of paper." "Still a shark." "Blast, I'll call my lawyer!"
I've been thinking about this question all week, has anyone ever walked passed you whilst you were wearing merch and said something like "Nice merch, I love CGP Grey" without knowing that you were CGP grey?
I have avoided cgpgreys apperance forever I once .. no never mind he was not cgpgrey just some random dude in the image searchs for cgpgrey I no longer even remember him so yeah it could very well happen
I was won over to antepavilion’s side when I saw the child’s chalk drawing. It’s just something so delightfully childish it should go next to a school and playground
@@ccox7198 Sooo your theory is that a chalk drawing of sharks is fake? And you can tell this how? Sounds like you just want to give yourself a reason to feel better than others.
@@ccox7198 you do realize not every child is 2 years old, I could easily imagine a 6-7 year old drawing something like that? Heck I vet there are 10 year old better at drawing than me
Update for those who care: On 25th June, police took angle grinders and crowbars to the warehouse's doors, handcuffed everyone on site and arrested two staff members working there, as well as the owner of the warehouse. Their phones were taken until the next day, when they were released, and police only left by night that same day. This is because of an art piece called "All Along The Watch Tower", made by Project Bunny Rabbit, which sprung out of Extinction Rebellion, which police wanted to "pre-emptively crack down on". Apparently, this justifies attacking a building in a supposed conservation area with angle grinders and crowbars. Antepavilion is currently disputing the legality of the raid and has requested body-cam footage of the raid on 25th July. No response of note from the police thus far. As for Sharks!, Antepavilion's appeal will be decided by a 4-day public inquiry starting 6th September. Yeah, this isn't a particularly nice continuation. Sorry.
abt the body cam footage, idk about England or anything but at least here in the U.S body cam footage is public information that anyone could ask for so I would assume police have to give up the footage just like they would have to do here.
And now Grey has brought it to the attention of a large group of internet people. There's no telling what's going to happen now. But something is going to happen. ;_;7
I love how that in 75 years - after the installation is somehow allowed to continue on - it will be such an iconic piece that residents will no longer be able to imagine the area WITHOUT it, thus becoming historical itself.
Then when a developer threatens to remove the sharks, Hackney council will put a preservation order on them on the grounds that they're "an intrinsic component of the architecture and cuttural landscape of the area". :-)
So you know how early on he mentions that there’s a history of shark art in the UK and shows a picture of a shark through a roof? What you said is exactly what happened in 1986 in Oxford. The Headington Shark is still there, and a local icon. Yes, there was a 4 year planning dispute.
After it was constructed there were a lot of people who couldn't wait for the Eiffel Tower to be torn down because the felt it was ugly and destroyed Paris's skyline.
I love the doublespeak here. “Playful subversion of planning legislation” is basically the same as “breaking the law is fun”, except just formal enough to justify hundreds of hours of lawyer-hours and books worth of legal letters. It’s beautiful.
@@oz_jones Whose cultural heritage is getting destroyed by a bunch of silly looking shark statues getting put on the canal? Is it so essential that the canal be 100% clear of fun modern art sculptures? It's hardly like they're graffitiing the length of the canal. What's the historic value of this specific stretch of water?
"Antepavilion's structures ... adversely affect the surrounding character, appearance, and architectural integrity of the surrounding conservation area" The architectural integrity of ... bland brick warehouses? From the pictures in this video, the historical district of Florence this area is not.
Well to be fair, industrial heritage is still heritage worth conserving and the conservation area does include the indisputably pretty canals as well. This of course doesn’t justify the removal of Sharks! by the authorities.
Look, you really can't expect bureaucrats to exercise either free will or judgement. That's pretty much antithetical to their purpose as functionaries, at their best they have no personal stakes in their duties but a job well done and serve as means of implementation of law and policy irrespective of personal opinion or agency. That those various rules might be flawed is frankly past their paygrade. That is on local government to either allow or disallow this, and there is a valid argument that has to be made as to whether any old building is worthy of conservation. I've seen plenty of disused factories from the Gilded Age or early 20th century that would be better off preserved for architectural reasons than knocked down or gentrified into apartments. Could this be corruption? Sure. Land conservation and eminent domain have been used pretty often as a means of seizing property. You'd expect more development but whatever. Equally possible somebody issued a petition that nobody anticipated the knock-on effects of decades ago, and they'll be damned if they're going to give it up now.
They are conserving the industrial heritage of their city. In this case they are overstepping their mandate. Since they were, the pavillion fought back on their own terms.
As someone who lives in the area, I'm afraid (unfashionable as it might be to support 'the man') that I'm really in favour of conservation law. The warehouses are poorly maintained, but they're a surviving part of the heritage of the city. This area of london was once the 'warehouse district' going back to the early 19th Century where goods such as tea and other imports would be ferried up the canal from the Thames and stored. It can still be seen around the place with the occassional brick building still featuring the old, cast iron pulleys for hoisting crates. The vast majority of it was destroyed in the Second World War and most of what was left has been replaced by either brutalist buildings or postmodern buildings. The ones on the canalside are definitely not the nicest examples in the area, but they're still listed. These people were well aware of the rules around their building when they set about with their art (in fact, contravening those rules is literally the point of the art). If artists and architects were allowed to just do what they want to historic buildings, much of pre-modern London would be unrecognisable, and even with those rules in place a listed building is being knocked down every week anyway. All that being said, I enjoyed seeing the sharks in the canal at City Basin and I have no problem with them, as long as they're temporary.
Grey just revealed the story to a large audience and now this is going to blow up... going to bookmark the wikipedia page and try to be updated, very curious about what is going to happen next.
@@Kisamaism Nerd sniping is a joke from the XKCD webcomic where you would present a nerd with a complicated problem which interests them to the point of distracting them from all other matters, to the point that said nerd would stand still in the middle of the road and forget to get out of the way of oncoming cars.
So I’m a city planner, one of the job titles often associated with creating planning and zoning regulations. It always disappoints me when I see municipalities overstep the necessary powers of zoning to get into stuff like “we don’t like how it looks so it’s illegal” zoning laws exist only to protect the health and safety of occupants as in make sure a residence isn’t place adjacent to a chemical factory and ensure land owners take care of their property, etc.
Of course, We have chemical plants here in the middle of an urban zone, and thats perfectly ok, cause Taxes, We have properties that as filled with junk cars and even had a guy go to JAIL for having too many pallets stacked in his yard. (seriously) @Grey, hows that for a video?
UK Planning differs from most of the world as it is much more discretionary, with policies which can be interpreted in multiple ways or flat out ignored if other circumstances (or politics) dictate. We don't have 'zoning' as such and planning is definitely seen as a tool for many societal benefits beyond just 'don't put the housing next to the heavy industry,' e.g. in this case 'let's protect the heritage of an area so current and future generations can also enjoy it.' A lot of planning in the UK also rests on precedent, so if you let one thing slide you can end up making life more difficult for yourself in the future when something more egregious comes along. I know this example makes the local planning authority look like killjoys, but I understand their concerns and their predicament here. If you want to learn more about how our politicians view the purpose of planning in terms of socioeconomic benefits, I would recommend looking up the Scottish Government's recent Planning Review (signed into law 2019) and the white paper released by Westminster last year.
Yes!!! Its a temporary art installation, how exactly is it encroaching on the conservation of historic buildings? Mind you, the historic building in this case is A LITERAL WAREHOUSE.
I like to imagine CGP Grey coming home after a long week and relaxing by methodically studying hundreds of pages of dense legal paperwork, only stopping to occasionally chuckle at written remarks made by snarky judges.
The part I fail to understand is why is an old, shabby brick warehouse part of a conservation area. While nothing else around the canal is. That *almost* seems like an intended attempt to shut down this one particular community just because they are weird anarchist artists...
Of course it's intended.. The people who decide what areas are conservation areas and what isn't are the same ones who then tell them they can't do that. If the people across the canal it over the bridge tried the same thing, you can be sure their block would magically become part of the conservation area
My little brother has started to pursue an interest in drawing more seriously in the last couple of years and has come to particularly enjoy drawing urban buildings, as he observed "It's great, you can put any number of antenna or duct or whatever on the roofs and it always looks like they belong" which I think perfectly summarizes how surprisingly subtle the HVAC piece is, despite its glaring enormity.
This from the same channel that has an equally compelling video about how to get passengers onto a plane in the most timely manner. CGP has a knack for turning mundane minutiae into a gripping source of fascination.
The amount of times I walked past this place during lockdown, and wondered who was doing what drugs. Now my questions have been answered, and its better than I could've imagined. Never change, PEOPLE of Hackney.
It's awsome video but I'm inclined to disagree, I don't think anything beats 'Is Your Car Safe From Supermaneuverable Air-Defense Fighter Aircraft? '. btw, it's nice to see you here :3
If you watch his live stream he says actually this video wasn't fun at all, it was incredibly stressful for the whole time due to all the legal aspects. He is taking a lot of time off after this video due to how much stress it put him through. He also won't be doing a commentary video for this because of all the issues.
@@MrTridac so you are banning people from creating their statue in their own room? sound like we should ban people from cellphone because they are emitting their wave at will,we cannot have they damage the child.
@@MrTridac well,for your deleted comment,you may misunderstood. the real reason that make me angry and write my comment is the conservation area is INCLUDED the building, and refer to your comment that I respond,if there's a artist drawing at home,it is definitely fine,but because the house is in the conservation so artist that just drawing thing on his own property still has chance to be sent into jail terrified me. I definitely agree they cannot put shark in the water, adminstration absolutely has power to limit personal intent in public water,but draw the conservation area include the building? that is unfair.
@@meifray I have not deleted any comment. My point was about the original comment: "...outdated and arbitrary rules...". Yes, there are outdated rules, and yes, the things the artists in question did are fine in my eyes. But I wouldn't want someone drawing a huge penis on their house right in front of the city plaza. Call it art and walk away. I think authorities should have the power to prevent that.
Never underestimate the petty vindictiveness of a government 'authority' who has been ruthlessly mocked and publicly humiliated...and never estimate their ability to publicly own themselves all over again, in the very act of seeking revenge...
I love the “fouuur sharks in the water” line so much because you know behind it Grey did so much research trying to get the story straight and simplified it down to that.
This video is now a part of the art of Sharks! too. Which means we are part of it by commenting. And I think it means I have a right to some of the canal water. Like maybe a teaspoon’s worth
I literally walk past that warehouse every day and just thought the people who owned it were odd with sharks popping up everywhere until now. (They painted a large picture of a shark on its large doors as a tribute to the event)
This whole case just seems like a story right out of a children's book. I didn't think legal cases like* these existed in real life. *I cannot believe no one corrected me for a whole month. Original; spoke.
Problem is over supply of lawyers, and they need to justify themselves, hence ever increasing regulations / rules / standards / bureaucracy etc. Hence why the West has so much red tape now, more than at any point in history, and why it's so economically non-competitive. You need an army of lawyers to do anything.
@@Jez4prez1 Kind of an overstatement.. we have more laws than any point in history because we also have more worker and consumer protections than at any other point in history, anti-trust laws, regulations on election spending, etc. Everyone's all happy with a 1 in 2 out policy until 1 of those 2 out is minimum wage legislation or a minimum holiday or maternity/paternity leave, etc. Like I do agree that the "red tape" can be a little much, but this whole notion that a lot of laws = bad is just silly.
@@lodgin You also have slowest GDP growth in history, and largest government in history as % of GDP. Also undersupply of STEM, oversupply of Law. 1 in 2 out was also done since UK gov recognised the problem. Australia also recently jacked up the price to study Law, and then uses that higher fee to subsidise STEM. Not sure if UK is doing this, but they probably should.
@@Jez4prez1 I'd advise against citing GDP as a coherent argument for most things. The US for example has the highest GDP in the world, beating out the second highest by twice the GDP of the UK.. and yet there are still a lot people in the US without clean water, electricity, internet, healthcare.. etc. GDP is not an indicator of quality of life or happiness. This is not to say that the UK's GDP is low because we're just so happy, but rather to say that your GDP argument isn't as persuasive as you think it is. Indeed the second highest country in terms of GDP is China, and I wouldn't want to live or work in China thank you very much.
Sounds like there's a bureaucrat who has taken a personal vendetta against those sharks. In Helsinki, some 25 years back, there was this anarchist group that squatted city-owned houses that weren't being used and were rotting, renovated the houses, and started living in them. They ended up being backed by politicians in the council, and were legally allowed to stay in the squats, and the council even provided firewood for them. But there was this one bureaucrat who really didn't like them and always made sure that the firewood was either rotten, or delivered at 5 AM in a pouring rain, etc.
@@Jackoclypse You're not paying their salary, you're just paying your taxes. From that moment on, it's not your money anymore and you have virtually no say in what becomes of it. Even if the government doesn't use it to pay the salary of that particular bureaucrat, you wouldn't get it back.
As a recently graduated planning student I appreciate the pain of Sharks! The process is rough and planners themselves are often under immense bureaucratic pressure they often disagree with, if understand from above.
Some might argue that getting the Queen involved is the opposite of "free from tyranny". Not me though, love that sweet lady, absolutely adore her, please don't send me to the Tower....
Some decades in the future somebody would wonder "What happened to the sharks that were out of my school when I was a kid?", and that somebody will search online and find this video. That is the art of Sharks!
In this case it is the existence of the art in opposition to bureaucratic over reach is the statement. As such it resonates even with people who may not care for either art or sharks and might even force a small change in the world. That is something that few works will ever achieve. This is the only real value art can have. Outside of that, art is just a bunch of stuff that may not even be pretty. The sharks themselves might not be to your taste but you cannot deny this is real artistic value. Yes, in attempting to remove an unsightly art piece they gave it real value and made it worth fighting over. Gotta love the unintended consequences. Hope to see it blow up in their faces soon.
I've always seen these abandoned old factory places to be the perfect spot for unknown artists. Their breeding grounds of utter rubbish and fine jewels. Seeing those weird structures, even if I don't like them. At least make SOMETHING out of those old boring buildings. Also that air vent thing is genius.
Here for my regular re-watch of this video that makes me happy every single time; commenting so UA-cam will know how wonderful and valuable this content is.
You ever end up going down a Wikipedia rabbit hole, where you start somewhere innocuous and you keep finding references to stranger and stranger things until you're obsessively reading about something oddly specific like the Belgian succession from the Holy Roman Empire and the legal drama therein? CGP's life is in those rabbit holes. He maps the passages and keeps moving deeper until his work is complete.
Living in London helps. There's a LOT of weird stuff here that you just bump into. Like Richard Whittington's Cat. No one cares about Rich, just his cat.
For those who dont get it Portmanteau word blending the sounds and combining the meanings of two others, for example motel (from ‘motor’ and ‘hotel’) Shark Art ... Shart!
Thanx for the content, sir. After watching this _Sharks!_ V.o.D. for the fifth time, it was clear that this was the place to pay-it-forward to the next content, too. Happy 2022
I can't believe it. Grey actually used Paganini Caprices instead of using Four Seasons like every other video using classical violin music ever. I'm so proud, it almost brings tears to my eyes.
I think the response is he really just likes the Sharks! statue and wants it to be displayed, if not necessarily there. So he's not making a statement on whether or not it can or should (if it doesn't stand out that much) be left there.
2:50 When you realize that cgp takes his own videos advice, that green tape is likely a border for his 'work area', from last year. He's got his work area secluded so when he enters it he's in work mode. Wow
If only they had been that efficient every other time an area was butchered by some dick thinking « flat surfaces, angles, chrome, glass... Yeah, this should fit perfectly with this 18th/19th/early 20th century architecture ».
I checked, and this statue does not have a Wikipedia article. Someone needs to give this statue a Wikipedia article. I, unfortunately, do not know how to make a Wikipedia article.
@@sircastic959 Imagine ending the article with the statement that all bureaucracy and legal issues regarding Sharks!' installation become a part of Sharks! and therefore all challenges the article has being posted are to be documented in said article.
I think you should be able to factually depict the artwork in Wikipedia without any of the legal hassle involved. Although it might be a bit hard to write in a way that obeys this
Went to go see the Sharks! today after watching this - they were amazing! Loads of people stopped by to see it and I want to believe they were also inspired by your video
I can’t believe the conservation zoning PERFECTLY winds around the warehouse. That’s the most wild move by Hackney in my opinion. EDIT: Disregard, see the comment below by Frank Smith as well as my comment.
@@warbler1984 I think my reply to you got deleted automatically so I'll try again: It's their property. I don't care what they do on it as long as it doesn't kill or maim me, or destroy my property. Build a giant lime green phallus that shoots flames out the tip on top of your warehouse, for all I care. If you comply with the laws about pyrotechnic displays and structural integrity of your phallus, I don't care what it looks like.
@@tissuepaper9962 and there in lies the issue here, they aren’t complying with afore mentioned laws, and seem to be doing anything and everything to avoid or bend said rules.
The best part of this is remembering walking past the "air duct", and trying to speculate to my wife why a building that size would need one that big...
You asked too many questions mr factstowin
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Well the disguise worked didn't it
You can just HEAR Grey’s absolute joy while reading this entire script and how hilarious he finds this entire scenario.
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Ya. He's having WAY too much fun! :-)
Especially with sharks!
Oppose the authority, fight the power!
with _Sharks!_
... To have fun, even when he had to suffer 99% of legalese, that he can't even mention in video? It's a horrific, red taped hell.
I love the fact that a global audience of millions will now know way too much about a local legal dispute in north central London.
This describes the contents of my brain perfectly
Petty, bureaucratic shenanigans on the far side of the globe are the best soap operas.
@@theutoid5663 Surely London is the centre of the globe.
@@tristanbeal261 It is according to timezones
Yeah... CGP Grey has power.
Sharks!
What happened to those poor sharks! Are they locked in the warehouse now 😢🦈
hey there grey
Got to give us an update.
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I like that Sharks! has the “!” because in theater if a show title includes an “!” at the end it means it’s a musical. So the singing sharks makes so much sense when you see it’s title. Love it.
You taught me something today.
This gives all new meaning to "Jeb!"
TIL
Ah yes, my favorite musical, Les Misérables!
So would that mean the title of a musical about this would be "Sharks!!"?
My feelings as a resident in Hackney: "In any dispute the intensity of feeling is inversely proportional to the value of the issues at stake."
Bahaha, I'm using this at the HOA meeting.
*+*
The definition of bikeshedding?
plz take our sharks
Sounds like my condo home owner's association.
Most people: "Cool, sharks!"
CGP Grey: _spends 6 weeks researching the statue_
This is why he has a UA-cam channel!
it shall be "Cool, sharks! !"
Hence, why we love Grey.
SHARKS!
*_Sharks!_
First, even Antepavilion likes this video as it is embedded on their page. Nice job Grey!
Second, last news on the Sharks! is from February of 2023, where one lone shark is on a river barge next to the warehouse to test the waters.
Seems someone at the Antevilion office liked Grey's idea ; )
People asking about how this fits in the CGP Grey timeline. It’s part of both the *riding* *my* *bike* *around* *London* and the *falling* *down* *the* *research* *rabbit* *hole*
eras.
And past The Blue-ening of the Grey office!
Arguably, one cannot say which era they reside within until it is over, maybe we'll see a new era of CGPGrey, one based off the facts of art and creativity perhaps?
The future is now
Agree, I see this as a procedural sequel to Race to Staten Island, one of my favourites to show my staff on the perils of doing deep research
This feels like a children’s book.
A bunch of sharks trying to find a home, but get constantly rejected and are forced to find a new one
Sound like a ballet could be made about it too
I think it should be an animated musical
This would be part of the art!
Thomas the Tank Engine but it takes place in revolutionary Spain
I can imagine it now. 5 sharks just want to perform a ballet, but get stopped at every turn by the evil zoning board. Everytime they try one place, they get shut down. Eventually, a kind patron invites the sharks to perform on a nice waterfront in front of a park and a school, and all the children enjoy the sharks (and pick up ballet), and the sharks get a standing ovation and flowers and all.
"They have to be removed by the end of this month"
Finally CGP Grey has found a reason to hurry up his production scedule!
Grey knows that as soon as he posts a video for a cause (like promoting sharks and punching zoning boards & saving snow days), his fans will begin pushing for it since we don't get that many videos. A plus for a slow schedule!
But for real, though. Grey, hire more people and just pump out more videos, this only expands your presence! It's a tradeoff between the meaningfulness of each video vs the additional "presence" and increased audience they reach. Go for the latter!
@@lucasleanza9762 I must disagree. Quality>quantity.
@@lucasleanza9762 for what it's worth THE SHARKS ARE STILL THERE WOOOO
@@lucasleanza9762 I respectfully disagree as well, most channels that start pumping out weekly content often loose my interest, Grey however never did.
@@RicardoDelfinGarcia I'm pretty sure Antepavilion is going to wait until the very end of the month to remove them
The thousands of public servant manhours, the bureaucratic spiderweb of litigation, and the sheer pettiness of it all. Something about this is so incredibly British. The confrontation as a whole was the art all along!
The real art was the injunctions we were served along the way.
The upper-class twits and court-room shenanigans skit of monty phyton.😂
A new art piece should be a running tally of the cost to tax payers to fight against Sharks! and other installations.
Hilarious if they showed up to court in left shark costumes
Between this and the snow day video Grey is rapidly becoming a guardian of the whimsical and light-hearted things in the world.
This whole _SHARKS!_ thing is quite funny!
We need more people like that in today's society.
Come to think of it, yeah, I like the stance he’s taking on sort of stripping away any politics from these things and just saying “listen certain things just make the world a happier place and really should be left alone”
and hexagons
@@nepunepu5894 (Bestagons)
Only in the modern era of artistic expression and simultaneous bureaucracy could a group of art promoters turn a legal battle into an art project in and of itself.
Only Grey could make a legal battle over property rights such an engaging tale
The exclamation point really does it
Technically speaking wouldn't most battles be battles over property rights? Both world wars, the Glorious Revolution in Britain, the Bolshevik revolution in Russia, The American Revolution, the Vietnam war against France... Mostly deciding who's stuff and who's land is who's and what rights they have to govern it? Is all of Russia the Tsar's or *"Ours?"* Is all of Europe Germany's or not Germany's? Is America for the colonizers or the colonialists (definitely not the natives why would you ask such a silly question).
Legal disputes are just what happens when symmetrical warfare is not an available option due to a higher power or severe asymmetry of power.
*Jay Foreman has entered the chat*
You are everywhere
@@Isbnsyw26yeb6 this isnt sam hogan its a person with their avatar being from one of his games
So as a quick update, since this recently re-emerged on my front page, the Hackney litigation is ongoing, but the 2021 competition appeared to be the most lively yet. The winning entry, titled Antechamber, is meant to fold up quickly and be transported around if necessary. What probably put Antechamber over the top is that it used repurposed materials from the dismantled Potemkin Theatre, the 2019 winner.
The shortlisted runner-ups included a piece titled "Hackney Injunction," "False Negative," a screen which created an optical illusion of a missing chunk of the warehouse, and "Scaffolding Hackney," which is a scaffold against the bridge that allows pedestrians to climb up to the Antepavilion roof.
Thank you for this amazing update
Unfortunately, it seems Sharks! lost the battle. As of Oct 22nd it appears the courts ruled Antepavilion does not own the rights to the water in front of their building and thus cannot launch Sharks! into the waterways ever again. There's a lot of legal crapola I might have misread, but that was my take on the situation.
@@Nightenstaff can they hover ABOVE the water, I wonder?
okay but seriously. put the Sharks! on the barge, give them pirate hats, let them illegally sail the canals as shark pirates.
they're basically 90% there already
shARRRks!
ask a foreign monarch for approval, then they become privateers - adding more convoluted law into the regulation.
Gods, I love this idea. ^^
@@sarowie Sharks! With Letters of marque! .. then they would need a marquee to display said letter.
I urge you to look up “The Pirate Castle” on Regents Canal 😃 I bet they’d love some shark pirates. 🦈🏴☠️
A bunch of artsy anarchists continuously trolling the the authorities over their nonsensical and exploitative zoning policy using urban pop up art wasn't the story I was expecting from Grey but I am here for it.
This is the guy who had an existential crisis over british paper sizes, obviously no doors are barred with this channel :)
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@@elizabethlowes6501 I loved that video. Time to watch it again.
sadly based on the color scheme of their logo and a few other things I strongly suspect they're ancaps...
@@MorteTheSkull doesn’t matter, their actions are commendable whether ancap, ancom, or aninbetween.
I am amazed that CGP got a video out about 'current affairs' while they were still current! Well done!
Just realized it also probably the reason a lot of the video is filmed, compared to the usual animated videos, he had to cute anything he could from the video-making process to be able to publish it while it still relevant
@@fruity4820 You wrote cute instead of cut, but now that I read it like that, he really did make the logos look cute
Plot twist: This all happened in 1987.
@@a.h.s.3006 oops my bad!
@@fruity4820 no no no don't get me wrong, I just thought it's funny and verb "to cute" should now be a real verb
Could see this as a Monty Python skit.
"You can't have those there."
"Yes I can"
"No you can't!"
"Fine I'll just move them over here."
...and then I'll silly walk back to slap you with a fish.
"No, you can't have them over there either."
"Why not?"
"Because it's a conservation area!"
"Well their extinct, we're conserving them,"
"They are made out of paper."
"Still a shark."
"Blast, I'll call my lawyer!"
Sometimes I think that all of England (and a small unpronounceable section of Wales) may be a Monty Python skit.
@@tacticalwhiskey3766 *they're extinct.
@@lwizzit All of Wales is small and unpronounceable.
I've been thinking about this question all week, has anyone ever walked passed you whilst you were wearing merch and said something like "Nice merch, I love CGP Grey" without knowing that you were CGP grey?
I have avoided cgpgreys apperance forever I once .. no never mind he was not cgpgrey just some random dude in the image searchs for cgpgrey I no longer even remember him so yeah it could very well happen
grey happily shouting *sharks!* is my spirit animal
Are you telling mt that CGP Grey *isn't* a literal stick figure with glasses?!
@@kevadu no hes a literal stick figure with glasses AND CGP Grey merch
He's a teacher, his students probably uploaded pictures of him online.
I really enjoy these “grey falls down a rabbit hole MUCH deeper than he expected” videos. Keep ‘em coming!
yesss, they're some of his best videos
I was won over to antepavilion’s side when I saw the child’s chalk drawing. It’s just something so delightfully childish it should go next to a school and playground
This is the most beautiful and important comment here.
@@ccox7198 What’s your damage
@@ccox7198 There's an upper limit one's cynicism, beyond which it's unproductive. I happen to think it's a pretty high limit, but still...
@@ccox7198 Sooo your theory is that a chalk drawing of sharks is fake? And you can tell this how? Sounds like you just want to give yourself a reason to feel better than others.
@@ccox7198 you do realize not every child is 2 years old, I could easily imagine a 6-7 year old drawing something like that?
Heck I vet there are 10 year old better at drawing than me
Update for those who care:
On 25th June, police took angle grinders and crowbars to the warehouse's doors, handcuffed everyone on site and arrested two staff members working there, as well as the owner of the warehouse.
Their phones were taken until the next day, when they were released, and police only left by night that same day.
This is because of an art piece called "All Along The Watch Tower", made by Project Bunny Rabbit, which sprung out of Extinction Rebellion, which police wanted to "pre-emptively crack down on". Apparently, this justifies attacking a building in a supposed conservation area with angle grinders and crowbars.
Antepavilion is currently disputing the legality of the raid and has requested body-cam footage of the raid on 25th July. No response of note from the police thus far.
As for Sharks!, Antepavilion's appeal will be decided by a 4-day public inquiry starting 6th September.
Yeah, this isn't a particularly nice continuation. Sorry.
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Thanks anyway. It would take some Brits over there writing their lawmakers to save artistic expression.
Something something, airstrip one, something something.
Have there been any updates since?
abt the body cam footage, idk about England or anything but at least here in the U.S body cam footage is public information that anyone could ask for so I would assume police have to give up the footage just like they would have to do here.
And now Grey has brought it to the attention of a large group of internet people.
There's no telling what's going to happen now. But something is going to happen.
;_;7
I think Grey knows exactly what he's doing here too 🤣
I keep worrying that he could get in trouble for giving the sharks positive attention.
I think there is only one option left. We need to get John Oliver involved!!!!
We need John Oliver involved!
And the Art of Sharks! Continues
You can hear the excitement in Grey’s voice as he describes the obscure findings of his investigation into urban planning bureaucracy.
Bureaucracy itself isn't bad, excessive is bad. Like everything in life. Also Grey loves to figure out things that pick its curiosity.
@@Braiam yes minister.
I love how that in 75 years - after the installation is somehow allowed to continue on - it will be such an iconic piece that residents will no longer be able to imagine the area WITHOUT it, thus becoming historical itself.
But they'll also be unwilling to let the legal battle against Sharks! go, because that's part of the art.
Then when a developer threatens to remove the sharks, Hackney council will put a preservation order on them on the grounds that they're "an intrinsic component of the architecture and cuttural landscape of the area". :-)
So you know how early on he mentions that there’s a history of shark art in the UK and shows a picture of a shark through a roof? What you said is exactly what happened in 1986 in Oxford. The Headington Shark is still there, and a local icon.
Yes, there was a 4 year planning dispute.
The sharks look pretty ugly though.
After it was constructed there were a lot of people who couldn't wait for the Eiffel Tower to be torn down because the felt it was ugly and destroyed Paris's skyline.
hearing cgp grey say "Sharks!" in such an enthusiastic tone at the end is such a blessing and i love it
thank you grey
It's delightful every single time!
5 sharks a-singing
4 art pieces
3 land owners
2 London boroughs
and a lesson in bureaucracy
Very nice
A shark sea shanty......
@@katherinalastname7077 I thought it was a Christmas song. (Days of Christmas ya know?)
1 confused CGP grey
On the 6th Week of bad management the London gave to me
I love Grey’s ability to simplify bureaucratic nonsense. It’s the most hidden of comedy and I’m glad he does the digging for us
I don't know where I would be without this man
I love the doublespeak here. “Playful subversion of planning legislation” is basically the same as “breaking the law is fun”, except just formal enough to justify hundreds of hours of lawyer-hours and books worth of legal letters.
It’s beautiful.
If the laws are unjustified, then the people have the duty to commit acts of civil disobedience to oppose those laws.
Well, it *is* fun.
Breaking some specific overly bureaucratic law is fun
@@angelaphsiao "destroying cultural heritage is ok"
@@oz_jones Whose cultural heritage is getting destroyed by a bunch of silly looking shark statues getting put on the canal? Is it so essential that the canal be 100% clear of fun modern art sculptures? It's hardly like they're graffitiing the length of the canal. What's the historic value of this specific stretch of water?
"Antepavilion's structures ... adversely affect the surrounding character, appearance, and architectural integrity of the surrounding conservation area"
The architectural integrity of ... bland brick warehouses? From the pictures in this video, the historical district of Florence this area is not.
Well to be fair, industrial heritage is still heritage worth conserving and the conservation area does include the indisputably pretty canals as well. This of course doesn’t justify the removal of Sharks! by the authorities.
Look, you really can't expect bureaucrats to exercise either free will or judgement. That's pretty much antithetical to their purpose as functionaries, at their best they have no personal stakes in their duties but a job well done and serve as means of implementation of law and policy irrespective of personal opinion or agency. That those various rules might be flawed is frankly past their paygrade. That is on local government to either allow or disallow this, and there is a valid argument that has to be made as to whether any old building is worthy of conservation.
I've seen plenty of disused factories from the Gilded Age or early 20th century that would be better off preserved for architectural reasons than knocked down or gentrified into apartments.
Could this be corruption? Sure. Land conservation and eminent domain have been used pretty often as a means of seizing property. You'd expect more development but whatever. Equally possible somebody issued a petition that nobody anticipated the knock-on effects of decades ago, and they'll be damned if they're going to give it up now.
They are conserving the industrial heritage of their city. In this case they are overstepping their mandate. Since they were, the pavillion fought back on their own terms.
The police also broke into the building using angle grinders and crowbars, arresting everyone inside. So much for historical preservation.
As someone who lives in the area, I'm afraid (unfashionable as it might be to support 'the man') that I'm really in favour of conservation law. The warehouses are poorly maintained, but they're a surviving part of the heritage of the city. This area of london was once the 'warehouse district' going back to the early 19th Century where goods such as tea and other imports would be ferried up the canal from the Thames and stored. It can still be seen around the place with the occassional brick building still featuring the old, cast iron pulleys for hoisting crates. The vast majority of it was destroyed in the Second World War and most of what was left has been replaced by either brutalist buildings or postmodern buildings. The ones on the canalside are definitely not the nicest examples in the area, but they're still listed.
These people were well aware of the rules around their building when they set about with their art (in fact, contravening those rules is literally the point of the art). If artists and architects were allowed to just do what they want to historic buildings, much of pre-modern London would be unrecognisable, and even with those rules in place a listed building is being knocked down every week anyway.
All that being said, I enjoyed seeing the sharks in the canal at City Basin and I have no problem with them, as long as they're temporary.
Grey just revealed the story to a large audience and now this is going to blow up... going to bookmark the wikipedia page and try to be updated, very curious about what is going to happen next.
I cant wait for Legal Eagle to do a vid on it :3
You know just this story alone is going to lead to a huge uprise in the chaos surrounding sharks!
page is being considered for deletion 😐
Grey is the single most nerd-snipable human being to have ever lived.
nerd... snipe... able? uwot
I'm confused too
@@Kisamaism Nerd sniping is a joke from the XKCD webcomic where you would present a nerd with a complicated problem which interests them to the point of distracting them from all other matters, to the point that said nerd would stand still in the middle of the road and forget to get out of the way of oncoming cars.
I'm still trying to figure out the equivalent resistance of the infinite one ohm resistor grid
@@1.4142 I'm fairly certain the answer lies with calculus and lim -> calculations, but I've always sucked at calculus.
So I’m a city planner, one of the job titles often associated with creating planning and zoning regulations. It always disappoints me when I see municipalities overstep the necessary powers of zoning to get into stuff like “we don’t like how it looks so it’s illegal” zoning laws exist only to protect the health and safety of occupants as in make sure a residence isn’t place adjacent to a chemical factory and ensure land owners take care of their property, etc.
The Planning (Listed Buildings & Conservation Areas) Act 1990 disagrees with you.
Of course,
We have chemical plants here in the middle of an urban zone, and thats perfectly ok, cause Taxes, We have properties that as filled with junk cars and even had a guy go to JAIL for having too many pallets stacked in his yard. (seriously) @Grey, hows that for a video?
You sound like a very reasonable person who appreciates and upholds the spirit of the law rather than the letter.
UK Planning differs from most of the world as it is much more discretionary, with policies which can be interpreted in multiple ways or flat out ignored if other circumstances (or politics) dictate. We don't have 'zoning' as such and planning is definitely seen as a tool for many societal benefits beyond just 'don't put the housing next to the heavy industry,' e.g. in this case 'let's protect the heritage of an area so current and future generations can also enjoy it.' A lot of planning in the UK also rests on precedent, so if you let one thing slide you can end up making life more difficult for yourself in the future when something more egregious comes along. I know this example makes the local planning authority look like killjoys, but I understand their concerns and their predicament here.
If you want to learn more about how our politicians view the purpose of planning in terms of socioeconomic benefits, I would recommend looking up the Scottish Government's recent Planning Review (signed into law 2019) and the white paper released by Westminster last year.
Yes!!! Its a temporary art installation, how exactly is it encroaching on the conservation of historic buildings? Mind you, the historic building in this case is A LITERAL WAREHOUSE.
Police breaking into a ballerina performance because of people complaining about fake sharks is just so… so British.
Oh great! 4 bots in the replies!
Why does everyone keep saying everything & anything about this is just so British. It's all so random.
Never in my life have I clicked "I'm feeling lucky".
Same, probably slang for clicking the top (or top 3) results
i remember once i spent hours going down a rabbit hole "i'm feeling lucky" brought me to
That's how you get a gambling addiction
I have but I never fully understood what it is?
I have it was crazy.
I like to imagine CGP Grey coming home after a long week and relaxing by methodically studying hundreds of pages of dense legal paperwork, only stopping to occasionally chuckle at written remarks made by snarky judges.
*sharky judges 😜
...you probably meant "sharky" judges?... Ok I'll see myself out. Ouch!
@@Matrixxxdancer likewise
Snarks! ?
This video is now also a part of the art installation, please remind antepavillion to create a new tab for it on their website.
The part I fail to understand is why is an old, shabby brick warehouse part of a conservation area. While nothing else around the canal is. That *almost* seems like an intended attempt to shut down this one particular community just because they are weird anarchist artists...
Of course it's intended.. The people who decide what areas are conservation areas and what isn't are the same ones who then tell them they can't do that. If the people across the canal it over the bridge tried the same thing, you can be sure their block would magically become part of the conservation area
This is literally just “You got a loiscence fah that?”
Oh, England...
England in all it's magnificience
You’ll never take me alive
Not to worry, I have a permit:
I do what I want.
@@AnnikaOakinnA "Sir, this was written with a crayon."
This is the freshest art project from England that millions will know about since Banksy.
We must make this shark statue the most convoluted confusing and frustrating court case to ever exist. It would be beautiful.
Someone understands art
We?
It would definitely be worth crowdfunding just to keep a case this irritating going 👍
Aren't there already hundreds of legal cases more convoluted than this?
Please forgive me for being overly pedantic, but I must correct you, the correct spelling "sharks!".
My little brother has started to pursue an interest in drawing more seriously in the last couple of years and has come to particularly enjoy drawing urban buildings, as he observed "It's great, you can put any number of antenna or duct or whatever on the roofs and it always looks like they belong" which I think perfectly summarizes how surprisingly subtle the HVAC piece is, despite its glaring enormity.
This is shockingly compelling
Oh cool it’s you I like your vids
This from the same channel that has an equally compelling video about how to get passengers onto a plane in the most timely manner.
CGP has a knack for turning mundane minutiae into a gripping source of fascination.
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Sharkingly compelling
hey, which fossil did you pick?
Most people: "Avoid that rabbit hole."
CGP: "Tally-ho !"
I want the city to realise that they should commission a sculpture of Dolphins to scare away the sharks, fight smarter, not harder
🤣
I think Swordfish, or Marlins would be a better choice in fighting sharks!
@@ipadair7345 you clearly don't know how much of a bastard dolphins are
@@ashtasheran6970 ah yes the zebra of the seas
@@dbropx3547 wet zebra
I'm imagining these five shark brothers and sisters shaping up and awkwardly wearing their best suits and ties to appear in court.
The fifth shark looking out from the bent prison bars.... Omg. The feels.
Terrifying honestly.
A religion based on hexagons, an existential crisis over paper sizes what next?
Sharks! ?
Sharks! !
Sharks!
Sharks!
Sharks!
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Shrucks.
The amount of times I walked past this place during lockdown, and wondered who was doing what drugs. Now my questions have been answered, and its better than I could've imagined. Never change, PEOPLE of Hackney.
Victim of the worst drug, power
But Hackney is the bad guy D:
@@robinschulz9961 i should've specified, *people of Hackney. Definitely not the council
@@CasterAzucar "Never change, Hackney."
Well, the council is the one trying to prevent any changes!
People! Sharks!
"Oi, you got that loicense for sharks mate?"
Sharks!*
Congratulations, you just made the best video on youtube
But not once did he mention Doom Eternal, 9 out of 10.
Hell yeah. DJ Peach Cobbler.
You're one of my favourites. Can't wait until you hit 1 Million subs.
_Sharks!_
It's awsome video but I'm inclined to disagree, I don't think anything beats 'Is Your Car Safe From Supermaneuverable Air-Defense Fighter Aircraft?
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btw, it's nice to see you here :3
Honestly as an artist CGP's response is like 100% what we're going for some of the time.
I'd be over the moon if I was antipavilion.
Can't wait for this video to appear as part of the on going meta-art
I think this is the most fun Grey had while making and recording a video in a long time
I was smiling the whole time, and it sounds like Grey was too
If you watch his live stream he says actually this video wasn't fun at all, it was incredibly stressful for the whole time due to all the legal aspects. He is taking a lot of time off after this video due to how much stress it put him through. He also won't be doing a commentary video for this because of all the issues.
the animation on this is delightful, those little anthropomorphized logos have so much charm
I know! How do these simple designs have so much personality?!
It's like an 80s movie when the old guys try to stop everyone from having fun
Bueller? Bueller?
In fairness, if the council had just let them do whatever they wanted, it wouldn't have been fun. It's only fun because it's against the rules
the no-fun police is at it again
@@mark6bat anarkiddies in a nutshell
footloose?
I love that shenanigans like this happen.
Sometimes you need people breaking the rules to point out how outdated or arbitrary those rules are.
While I like those shenanigans too, I would not like to live in a city where EVERYONE can do EVERYTHING with their houses.
@@MrTridac so you are banning people from creating their statue in their own room?
sound like we should ban people from cellphone because they are emitting their wave at will,we cannot have they damage the child.
I’m with you. Go anarchist artists (an-artists?)
@@MrTridac well,for your deleted comment,you may misunderstood.
the real reason that make me angry and write my comment is the conservation area is INCLUDED the building,
and refer to your comment that I respond,if there's a artist drawing at home,it is definitely fine,but because the house is in the conservation so artist that just drawing thing on his own property still has chance to be sent into jail terrified me.
I definitely agree they cannot put shark in the water, adminstration absolutely has power to limit personal intent in public water,but draw the conservation area include the building? that is unfair.
@@meifray I have not deleted any comment. My point was about the original comment: "...outdated and arbitrary rules...". Yes, there are outdated rules, and yes, the things the artists in question did are fine in my eyes. But I wouldn't want someone drawing a huge penis on their house right in front of the city plaza. Call it art and walk away. I think authorities should have the power to prevent that.
Art is the most accurate term to describe this entire scenario.
Indeed
They really are performance artists, their medium being legal injunctions against themselves.
Coming back here after watching 42 cops kick down the door of Antepavillion on the 4th in order to seize a sculpture.
Wait what
Never underestimate the petty vindictiveness of a government 'authority' who has been ruthlessly mocked and publicly humiliated...and never estimate their ability to publicly own themselves all over again, in the very act of seeking revenge...
I love the “fouuur sharks in the water” line so much because you know behind it Grey did so much research trying to get the story straight and simplified it down to that.
I think 2020-2021 has been Grey's era of "I do what I want"
If this is "what Grey wants" then personally I'm in favor. I never thought I'd get so invested in a zoning conflict in London, yet here I am.
Second year of novelty perhaps?
@@adjoint_functor Year of impulse perhaps?
@@Legoguy1237 I think so too, and I'm so there for it!
As long as it's not another gaming stream I don't mind
This video is now a part of the art of Sharks! too. Which means we are part of it by commenting. And I think it means I have a right to some of the canal water. Like maybe a teaspoon’s worth
I am in
I want a Sharks! Part in my teaspoon
GIB ME MY WATEH
SHARKS!
Nice, you now have the right to make canal tea.
I literally walk past that warehouse every day and just thought the people who owned it were odd with sharks popping up everywhere until now. (They painted a large picture of a shark on its large doors as a tribute to the event)
This whole case just seems like a story right out of a children's book. I didn't think legal cases like* these existed in real life.
*I cannot believe no one corrected me for a whole month. Original; spoke.
You've clearly never heard of a Homeowners Association.
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On the contrary, I'm pretty sure this is how basically all legal battles go if neither side gives up easily.
@@danieljensen2626 i wasn't aware.
CGP Grey: The only man whose tangents actually go somewhere and make for phenomenal content.
That seems to be the entire channel premise from what I gather?
As a law student, I can't express my pure excitement on a _CGP Grey_ video about planning permission law.
what?
Problem is over supply of lawyers, and they need to justify themselves, hence ever increasing regulations / rules / standards / bureaucracy etc. Hence why the West has so much red tape now, more than at any point in history, and why it's so economically non-competitive. You need an army of lawyers to do anything.
@@Jez4prez1 Kind of an overstatement.. we have more laws than any point in history because we also have more worker and consumer protections than at any other point in history, anti-trust laws, regulations on election spending, etc. Everyone's all happy with a 1 in 2 out policy until 1 of those 2 out is minimum wage legislation or a minimum holiday or maternity/paternity leave, etc. Like I do agree that the "red tape" can be a little much, but this whole notion that a lot of laws = bad is just silly.
@@lodgin You also have slowest GDP growth in history, and largest government in history as % of GDP. Also undersupply of STEM, oversupply of Law. 1 in 2 out was also done since UK gov recognised the problem. Australia also recently jacked up the price to study Law, and then uses that higher fee to subsidise STEM. Not sure if UK is doing this, but they probably should.
@@Jez4prez1 I'd advise against citing GDP as a coherent argument for most things. The US for example has the highest GDP in the world, beating out the second highest by twice the GDP of the UK.. and yet there are still a lot people in the US without clean water, electricity, internet, healthcare.. etc. GDP is not an indicator of quality of life or happiness. This is not to say that the UK's GDP is low because we're just so happy, but rather to say that your GDP argument isn't as persuasive as you think it is. Indeed the second highest country in terms of GDP is China, and I wouldn't want to live or work in China thank you very much.
Sounds like there's a bureaucrat who has taken a personal vendetta against those sharks. In Helsinki, some 25 years back, there was this anarchist group that squatted city-owned houses that weren't being used and were rotting, renovated the houses, and started living in them. They ended up being backed by politicians in the council, and were legally allowed to stay in the squats, and the council even provided firewood for them. But there was this one bureaucrat who really didn't like them and always made sure that the firewood was either rotten, or delivered at 5 AM in a pouring rain, etc.
As someone well familiar with local government planning and conservation, this video is all at once fascinating, hysterical, and frustrating!
I read that as "frustrating, hysterical, and frustrating!"
Imagine your job is to crack down on art trolls whose sole purpose is to waste your time and make fun of you for falling for it
must pay well.
Imagine paying their salary. Oh wait I'm a tax payer I don't have to imagine
In london, property value is the main currency, you can make powerful enemies by building sharks.
@@Jackoclypse You're not paying their salary, you're just paying your taxes. From that moment on, it's not your money anymore and you have virtually no say in what becomes of it. Even if the government doesn't use it to pay the salary of that particular bureaucrat, you wouldn't get it back.
That tension waiting for the sharks to get loaded on...
As a city planner in Canada, I love this so much
Yea, don't you guys have a giant rubber duck?
do you have a home for the sharks maybe?
As a recently graduated planning student I appreciate the pain of Sharks! The process is rough and planners themselves are often under immense bureaucratic pressure they often disagree with, if understand from above.
As an American Planning student, this was both a wonderful video to watch and an interesting reminder of the subjectivity of planning standards.
I am deeply concerned they may never had these things looked at by a structural engineer by misfiling paperwork to send an aesthetic message.
Banksy has nothing on this, and I demand the Queen of England get involved and let these poor sharks live free from tyranny!!
Some might argue that getting the Queen involved is the opposite of "free from tyranny". Not me though, love that sweet lady, absolutely adore her, please don't send me to the Tower....
@@pintpullinggeek
The Tower facilities haven't housed prisoners in decades, so I think you're safe.
She owns the swans not the _Sharks!_
@@pintpullinggeek The Tower of London is a tourist attraction nowadays. pay at the front and inside is the Crown Jewels, go see 'em!
Only if they were Swans! instead.
Grey is just so utterly delightful here. Every single one of those exclamation marks were enunciated perfectly and exuberantly
Some decades in the future somebody would wonder "What happened to the sharks that were out of my school when I was a kid?", and that somebody will search online and find this video. That is the art of Sharks!
Let's hope UA-cam is still around and videos like this are still available.
@@rogerwilco2 Or at least preserved in some shape or form.
@@Theraot that's a gosh darn lot of videos
I'd like to buy these Antepavilion blokes a pint.
Sharks!
Of all the modern fine art that exists today, this feels like it's genuinely testing the boundaries of what art is.
In this case it is the existence of the art in opposition to bureaucratic over reach is the statement. As such it resonates even with people who may not care for either art or sharks and might even force a small change in the world. That is something that few works will ever achieve. This is the only real value art can have. Outside of that, art is just a bunch of stuff that may not even be pretty. The sharks themselves might not be to your taste but you cannot deny this is real artistic value. Yes, in attempting to remove an unsightly art piece they gave it real value and made it worth fighting over. Gotta love the unintended consequences. Hope to see it blow up in their faces soon.
I've always seen these abandoned old factory places to be the perfect spot for unknown artists. Their breeding grounds of utter rubbish and fine jewels. Seeing those weird structures, even if I don't like them. At least make SOMETHING out of those old boring buildings.
Also that air vent thing is genius.
trolling authority is an art
@@booperdee2 the best kind imo
I don't think there's any questian about wether Sharks! are art or not.
Here for my regular re-watch of this video that makes me happy every single time; commenting so UA-cam will know how wonderful and valuable this content is.
They should have named the installation "those kickass sharks, which I think are awesome," so that's what all the legal documents would say.
If they could anticipate the legal battles, they could have named it "The Sharks! that circumvented the law?"
But then it might've been shortened to a brief exclamation point less 'sharks'.
I think these guys know what they are doing.
‘Hackney’s favorite legal sharks’
What's with CGP Grey and spending exorbitant amounts of time researching the most mundane things? _I love it._
You ever end up going down a Wikipedia rabbit hole, where you start somewhere innocuous and you keep finding references to stranger and stranger things until you're obsessively reading about something oddly specific like the Belgian succession from the Holy Roman Empire and the legal drama therein?
CGP's life is in those rabbit holes. He maps the passages and keeps moving deeper until his work is complete.
@@jacob5169 Colin’s job is to do that.
Welcome to CGP Greys world, much to our delight! You will get hooked! No pun intended!
Living in London helps. There's a LOT of weird stuff here that you just bump into. Like Richard Whittington's Cat. No one cares about Rich, just his cat.
He's been stuck in London in lockdown for a year now, all his traveling has been through the Internet.
"Shark Art" is a phrase one most definitely doesn't want to portmanteau.
For those who dont get it
Portmanteau
word blending the sounds and combining the meanings of two others, for example motel (from ‘motor’ and ‘hotel’)
Shark
Art
...
Shart!
@@abeertariq1051 Lmao; although I already knew what portmanteau meant this was a very funny explanation
@@abeertariq1051 Adding an exclamation point after "shart" is doubly appropriate.
Thanx for the content, sir. After watching this _Sharks!_ V.o.D. for the fifth time, it was clear that this was the place to pay-it-forward to the next content, too. Happy 2022
Why does your comment have a red background, and whats the $50 thing?
@@monika.alt197 I made a donation, clicking the $ under the video title. Swag
@@yon_monster oh I see.
I can't believe it. Grey actually used Paganini Caprices instead of using Four Seasons like every other video using classical violin music ever. I'm so proud, it almost brings tears to my eyes.
The Caprices are harder to play. I think he knows everything.
This country has lost Shark! art it never knew it needed and snow days, and CGP Grey is the only one telling their story.
Hero
"I don't have a legal stance on this." Don't lie. We all know you want the sharks!
Well, it's not a 'legal' stance as such, just a preference :b
He doesn't know if it's legal, he just wants the Sharks! As do we all
I think the response is he really just likes the Sharks! statue and wants it to be displayed, if not necessarily there. So he's not making a statement on whether or not it can or should (if it doesn't stand out that much) be left there.
After watching Tom Scott's video, I can now understand what 0:29 and the artwork are about!
2:50
When you realize that cgp takes his own videos advice, that green tape is likely a border for his 'work area', from last year. He's got his work area secluded so when he enters it he's in work mode. Wow
That’s inspiring. Truly.
But green was relax and have fun
@@gabigm7655 Is not the best job one that also you enjoy and are relaxed while doing so?
Nice catch!
He's basically a PE teacher but better
This whole art and legal battle feels like a quality shitpost and I love it.
British bureaucracy and its consequences have been disastrous to “Sharks!”
If only they had been that efficient every other time an area was butchered by some dick thinking « flat surfaces, angles, chrome, glass... Yeah, this should fit perfectly with this 18th/19th/early 20th century architecture ».
SHARKS!*
@@nathanjora7627 it totally isn't because those kinds of developers have a slush fund...
-pulls cover over new Aston Martin
I stayed in London/Hackney over the weekend and randomly stumbled across those sharks. So I can confirm that they're still there. 🦈
Yoooo
Awesome!
Hackey Council "Are you artists or trolls?"
Antepavilion "Yes"
This level of trolling has to be an art form.
Modern art is 95% trolling, 5% art
not mutually exclusive
The words “trolling” and “art” have been virtually interchangeable as of late
Literally the same thing
I checked, and this statue does not have a Wikipedia article.
Someone needs to give this statue a Wikipedia article.
I, unfortunately, do not know how to make a Wikipedia article.
The Controversial Legal Matter probably makes the Wiki article more difficult to pull together
Writing a Wikipedia article is easy. Making sure it's not marked for speedy deletion is the hard part.
I caution against doing that.
Unless you are prepared to involve Wikipedia in that legal battle and therefore the art installation of Sharks!.
@@sircastic959 Imagine ending the article with the statement that all bureaucracy and legal issues regarding Sharks!' installation become a part of Sharks! and therefore all challenges the article has being posted are to be documented in said article.
I think you should be able to factually depict the artwork in Wikipedia without any of the legal hassle involved. Although it might be a bit hard to write in a way that obeys this
"Oooone shark in the water..."
* epic escort animation*
"Twoooo shark in the water..."
* chuggachugga chuggachugga*
I've watched this video 3 times just to enjoy that piece
@@RainaRamsay 5 or 6 times now
Threeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee sharks in the water
**insert rocket sounds**
“Fffooouurrrrr sharks in the water…”
*Piggyback ride by the flash*
5:03
Went to go see the Sharks! today after watching this - they were amazing!
Loads of people stopped by to see it and I want to believe they were also inspired by your video
I went from “Damn these _Sharks!”_
To “Free the _Sharks!”_
In 10 minutes.
Me too.
+
10 minutes after that, I arrived at "Free these damned Sharks!"
This is, by far, my absolute favorite video you've ever done. The music, the video, the ridiculous level of excitement in your voice.
Absolute 10/10
I can’t believe the conservation zoning PERFECTLY winds around the warehouse. That’s the most wild move by Hackney in my opinion. EDIT: Disregard, see the comment below by Frank Smith as well as my comment.
That's what happens when you get busybodies in government, they always find some way to hold their power over you and make you bend to their whims.
@@tissuepaper9962 yeah but imagine if every mad hatter could do whatever they wanted without restriction
@@warbler1984 I think my reply to you got deleted automatically so I'll try again:
It's their property. I don't care what they do on it as long as it doesn't kill or maim me, or destroy my property. Build a giant lime green phallus that shoots flames out the tip on top of your warehouse, for all I care. If you comply with the laws about pyrotechnic displays and structural integrity of your phallus, I don't care what it looks like.
@@tissuepaper9962 and this is the sane way to go about things. Unfortunately, people are addicted to governments deciding everything
@@tissuepaper9962 and there in lies the issue here, they aren’t complying with afore mentioned laws, and seem to be doing anything and everything to avoid or bend said rules.
I've spent the last few days just saying or thinking "SHARKS!" to myself at random times. It feels delightful.
SHARKS!
Makes me smile every time!
*_SHARKS!_* 👍😎👍