Let this be a lesson at your age!! Tribe by Tribe!!! Let's treat everybody with dignity but let them fight their own battle!!!! Hope you learn now to run at night at Cape Flats, Nomzamo, and and and where else dit not bring you any votes, but strip you from your health and energy!!!!! Accept the fact that!!! They choose to live that lifestyle and don't need our interference!!!! Nothing has changed in thirty years, accept Lawlessness became our daily routine, and that they follow strictly!!!!
All his vocal fyting came to exactly naught. He still refuses to understand Whom he's dealing with.... Not too bad for someone with an mk as alma mater. 🤣🤣🤣 Suggest a post grad Univ course in negotiation.
Great friend of mine fought in Rhodesia, met him in Camperdown, KZN. Lost touch due to my living in Texas and no WhatsApp at that time. RIP Cyril English ❤
12,5 million don't vote and I'm part of 13,5 who didn't even register to vote. Therefor 26 million didn't vote. We don't want to be part of the brothel.
South Africa needs to reduce the amount of political parties taking part in the elections. 10 Parties MAX. This would already change the political landscape. Over a 100 000 votes for parties that wont have a seat in parliament. Waste of votes.
38 parties received less than 0,50% of the vote. Their total vote was 4.83% of the total. The only way to reduce this ridiculous situation is to require a deposit of R1,5 million from any group or party that seeks to contest a national election.
@@duncandubois6134I also think that the current parties in parliament MUST get donations from supporters too. Not use taxpayer money t campaign That would change things
@@truth-Hurts375 I did google it: Neil De Beer worked for the apartheid state before defecting to the ANC’s Umkhonto weSizwe as an intelligence operative( ie. a spy). At the start of October 2020, after more than three decades and his name being linked to incidents ranging from murder to world-class rugby, De Beer announced his resignation from the ANC. He has since styled himself as an activist hellbent on becoming South Africa’s president.
I love your incredible insight Mr DE Beer. You have enormously amazing skills and I wish you were president. Thank you for this enlightening message. We are all pretty clueless regarding politics, well, I speak for myself in that. God bless you and our country
@@Thegema101Not true!!! Majority voted DA!!! Around 30% FF+.. even the strongest Afrikaner region Orania has seen DA taking alot of votes away from FF+... FF+ is not radical at all, They do not represent right wing at all!!! When they did they attracted alot more votes!!! Yes but they've transformed to be very liberal... go check out their manifesto, they don't even stand up against farm murders anymore they were very quiet, While the DA has been very vocal on that especially in Parliament, The DA also fought for Afrikaans/any indigenous languages in schools, University etc, The DA has a lot of Afrikaner leaders in their top ranks aswell... So naturally they would vote for people also representing their rights!!! Orania's support has dropped for the FF+ because Orania leaders endorced no party!!! They told their people to go out and vote for whom ever you feel like, because no matter which party rules and has how many seats it means nothing to their local leaders as non of them are aligned to any political party, so it's not that VF+ is really a Afrikaner party they not!!! They have people from different ethnicities in their provincial leaderships aswell... VF+ is not a bad choice but they did nothing for their main voting block and is loosing them...
Never a clearer message on where we are and where we are going - this made me stand up and take note. Niel, your words and experiences will echo in how the future plays out without a doubt. Wisdom through experience by far the best teacher - stay the course whatever you do.
The PA saw an issue that the rest of South Africa(DA and ANC) didn’t understand because they were not worried about these communities. All that is required is that all groups of people voices be heard and that they also get a seat at the table. The fact that you class the PA voters under the same class as the rest, is the reason for them existing today.
Firstly allow me to say, Thank U Neil & may our Almighty Father GOD continue to Bless U & we Thank HIM for Full Healing & Restoration in yr body 🙏🏻 Neil i have listened carefully as to what u have said now during this interview, for me personally i believe the MPC needs to stick together & continue to build towards the 2029 Elections, I understand the “Politics” of forming a Coalition, BUT ….. how does the DA go & join the ANC when for years they have fought them in Court, expose them in Parliament & at every opportunity, so how is that going to work?! The DA is going to want “Very Key Positions” within Government & the ANC will NOT give that up too them, The ANC will do a Coalition with the MK, the MK will join on key specific non negotiable terms, 1. CR is to be immediately recalled at President of SA & dismissed as the President of the ANC. 2. The New Incoming President will need to give JZ a Full Pardon of All Crimes. Together the ANC & MK will be in Government, What needs to happen & i say this Respectfully, the DA says that they want to put SA first, well the DA Members represent the Citizens of SA, they need to Stop their nonsense of this “big brother” act of theirs, that they are the “only” party capable of unseating the ANC, well that didn’t happen now did it, i mean John talks of how “they” have broken the stranglehold the ANC have had, the Majority, NO John U & the DA did NOT, it was due to the MK that the ANC are no longer the Majority, The DA also needs to set aside the differences with all the other Parties & start working together, the MPC needs to stand together & go deep into the Townships, Rural areas & go get those 4/5million Voters that are eligible & can vote & bring them to the 2029 Elections, STOP trying to “persuade” existing ANC, MK, EFF Voters to come across, that will NEVER happen, we do NOT need the DA to continue taking out Adverts & Posting Messages All over Social Media as to how bad the ANC are, we know what is happening, the Citizens know it, BUT ….. instead go & do the hard work on the ground, not in some suburban area, deep down in the Townships, Rural Areas, we need those voters , they are already eligible, probably already registered as well, just tired of All this Political Drama, so let’s call them the NEW 4/5million Voters for 2029, that is EXACTLY what the MPC need to do !!!! We need Leaders like Neil, i wish u well my friend, GOD Bless U 🙏🏻 #GOD1st#MPC🇿🇦🌈🙏🏻
100% agree with you. I've been saying this for year. The DA needs to rid itself of thr tag that it only looks after the interest of middle to upper class South Africans. If they want to grow in strength for 2029, speak to your township / rural voters and get some diversity in your leadership. People connect with a party that is representative of demographics in SA.
@@sds2954 Exactly my friend, i used to be a DA voter, i changed in 2019 & now vote for ActionSA, as i like what Herman stands for, ActionSA is still part of the MPC, i have absolutely NO issues in explaining as to why i NO longer vote for the DA, it’s because of their “Arrogance”, this “Big Brother” attitude of theirs, it needs to Stop, i mean now after the declaration of the elections, ONLY 58.6% of Voters came out & Voted, out of close too 27million that are Registered, that is NOT Good 😌🥲 As i mentioned in my comment, The MPC ( the entire membership ) needs to go & appeal to those Voters & ask them to come & vote at the next Provincial Elections & National in 2029, they must go out & secure “NEW” Voters, forget about trying to convince other Parties Voters to come across, that won’t happen 🤦🏼♂️ Take care my friend 🙏🏻🌈🇿🇦
a party dnt work with any party who dnt meet thy values! That's what we ask as voters not the DA the voters vote fr the party who meet our values the eff no go, mk no go the other smaller parties I think ACDP is OK, the party of Neil is OK Actionsa is mybe OK
The smaller and new parties were surprising of note..the outcome is so true as you described it,,,cannot believe the Eastern Cape percentage,,the poorest province with the highest unemployment, chose to vote with the ANC,,,so sad,,,Neil so understands the landscape,,,I always said tribalism will rule this country,,,and so it begins,,
Tribalism was introduced by the Apartheid Government. Have you forgotten what they did to people of colour in South Africa, when they created Apartheid? That is the reason why Neil de Beer left them and joined the ANC! When Neil found out that the ANC was doing the same as the Apartheid Government, he resigned from the ANC too! I never voted for the useless BEE ANC!
Thank you. ANC/EFF/MK - Troika from the start of MK formation. ANC wanted KZN. MK was the means. Crafty. An election of racial, tribalism, factionalism and identity politics. The Spear of the Nation has been drawn. Zuma? Clapping for a criminal. "Radical and Separatist State"? Yes. Democracy? Democracy is a front. It's all decided "behind". Let the Games Begin.
There are many countries in a far worse situation. Ukraine, Putin’s Russia with his eternal threats, North Korea, parts of the Middle East, Iran, Afghanistan, Sudan. Various uprisings in African countries, Myanmar. Terrorist activities in a number of countries. Taiwan has its cage rattled every now & then by the Chinese causing nervousness. Hong Kong is not what it used to be. Arrest, disappearance of people, is a known possibility & ever lurking in the background for many people who dare to not kowtow to China. These are but a few countries that require strong nerves to navigate. Europe is not what it used to be. USA has big problems. Everywhere prices have gone through the roof, services are bursting at the seams, irrespective of country. To believe South Africa is the only bad boy on the block is being utterly naive. There is no perfect country. There is no Utopia. We are living in dangerous times, no matter where in the world you are. Wrong place, wrong time could be anywhere in the world.
Maybe .... Just maybe..this is the direction that MOST South Africans would like to go based on election results. Instead of peddling 'doomsday ' what what... Let's get behind transforming our political and economical landscape together. Regardless of who is in power
Yes! People did not vote for tribes, they voted for personalities and radical ideologies. Imagine, the people saying it was tribalism should ask why people changed their votes. Let's be honest, we didn't know these people and smaller parties. We knew the loudest voices. KZN would have voted IFP but Buthelezi died and for much last there wasn't even a campaign from IFP. Look at the manifesto, not a lot of people agree with EFF policy. And ActionSA was not voted for due to the minimum wage problem. Which is the same policy that DA has. The floods was the determiner of KZN.
The people that didn't Vote, mustn't Complain about how South Africa, will struggle, to get our Economy, back on Track...they will feel it to, so hope they are satisfied, with themselves 😮
It is quite the irony that comments like these are almost always the result of a lack of understanding of the South African landscape and how it affects the economy. I am going to assume you think that those that did note vote should have voted for the DA (as presumably the party with the highest chance to go up against the ANC, notwithstanding the fact that a vote for the MK or EFF would be economically pointless) EVEN IF that person does not agree with DA policy. Firstly, how dare you tell someone that does not subscribe to the values and policy of ANY party that they should vote anyway because anything would be better than the ANC, specifically for the economy? Secondly, what even do you mean by "to get our Economy, back on Track"? High single figure GDP growth? Social upliftment? Increased foreign investment? Specifics are important. Lastly, I cannot even begin to overstate how mistaken every single person is that think that SA's problems will be solved as soon as another party is in power. I am sure you will vehemently disagree of course, but then I will ask, what specifically do you believe an alternative party will do to enact change, and more importantly how exactly will they achieve said changes? Anyone can dream up what they want, but it is much harder to execute such when you take into account that nothing exists in a vacuum. There is always, always something that has to be sacrificed and in South Africa it is politically untenable to make radical changes to policy that will affect the economy because no matter what you choose, you are going to crush the poor (at least in the short to medium term). Guess where your votes are going to come from?
Quite the opposite. If you didn’t vote then you didn’t agree to anyone ruling over you and you are the only one that has a legitimate right to complain. If you voted you bought into the system and lost your right to complain.
@@siubhan2047paragraphs are important. they were introduced in grade 6 English for a reason. Though i agree to 51% your comment. Its equally unproductive to do nothing at all because the abstainers are useless in any discourse e.g., education, treasury, etc. Contribute somehow. Join the DA if you want, challenge policy. On And on
IEC was insufficient- We are 2 people who made application for special vote. I got confirmation but when the time came, they said that we do not have a special vote. We are bedridden and could not go vote. I adequate management. Thanks to Neil. Love him❤
ANC and DA does not work , as they are different from an ideological point of view. The policies and manifesto’s does not align at all. That partnership doesn’t present the view of the majority of South African’s.
What type of ANC member are you that can support working with the DA?😂😂 Wena udinga iDC nyamazane How will you manage the racist attitude of the D.evils Alliance when it comes to BEE, land reform, nationalization, foreign policy?
Mnr. De Beer if it was not for the Zulus, the ANC would still be having more power. So which deal was better? ANC in power or an ANC broken down? We gave South Africa a better deal. How else were we gonna break the ANC dominance? You can blame tribalism all you want but none of you managed to break the ANC.
@@SibusisoNgcobo-qb7st They're militant, aggressive, radical and working hard at keeping racism alive and playing victims. Not to mention Zuma's self benefitting relationship with the Gupta's, evasion of prison time and his homestead while the poor continued to suffer.
DA must not form government with ANC. They should work on a memorandum of cooperation with ANC to support ANC in a minority government. ANC+DA would be the end of both parties.
I agree with Mike, if they form a coalition it could be devastating for their next elections, leaving the door open for MK, EFF. The MK party and EFF will radicalize their support and cause bi-monthly looting like we had here in KZN in 2021. Unnecessary lives were lost, businesses closed down and jobs were lost.
The DA campaign was to "rescue SA". There's two scenarios... ANC + DA coalition is the only way to rescue SA... The other option is ANC + MK which will be the doomsday coalition... so what's the best option for our country?
@@GavinTremble no need for a coalition. DA is effective as opposition. If they govern with ANC EFF and MK become opposition to ANC/DA and that would be a catastrophe
Thanks Niel and Chris, What would make perfect sense for South Africa is for the DA and partners to approach MK quickly and form a coalition, that way the rot of the ANC and EFF would be left in the dark and South Africa would be saved and spark again. Each bring an incredible amount of good and skills as well as goodwill which is what we need in SA for the youth of the future. And then another bomber is neither party take the reigns of President but appoint a man lkike Moegeng Moegeng as the countries new President with two deputy presidents being one from DA and one from MK. If ANC and EFF get to MK first, its over for SA and Zimbabwe will shine far above us. We will be back to square one. God Bless South Africa.
But MK is part of the rot as well. In fact, they're the greatest percentage of it. Also, both the DA and MK have said they have no interest in working together.
Zuma will never coalesce with the DA.ANC and DA as they share same liberal policies.i mean the current ANC will chose to go with the DA to protect ramaphosa from the chop.
Thank you Neil for enlightening the citizens on what has emerged post election. Wishing you all the best in your endeavours for justice and truth. God bless you.
Spirit determines physics/ the physical. What we see is only the unveiling and the unfolding of the already there realities. Strength to you De Beer...
Neil , i ask you to please keep fighting for what is right and true , I pledge my support to you and your party which i was giving to another member of the coalition.
I believe the mpc must push for a joint coalition with the anc not just the DA. So that the Mpc with a joint 31% can heavily influence government and attempt to push out the anc.
Please, please DA,no,no,no,no it will be your end. DA must stay as opposition, must have someone to keep the folks accountable. Don't be damn foolish.........please!!!!
They can remain opposition and still vote along in first sitting when president is voted. They recieve key cabinet positions like energy health And still curb anc retain independent identity via their mumicipal President can be non da non anc Anc mk or anc eff unity is a frightening prospect there will be nothing left to oppose by 2029
ANC EFF mk is surely frightening to certain people in this country. But to some it is a necessary to achieve certain goals and right certain historic wrongs.
@@tncleotlela8720 you right the wrongs by attracting foreign investment via reliable SOE's tax the capitalists redistribute to the poor. The hurt others to fix me option has never worked
@@tncleotlela8720 that is exactly what they have not done for 30 years I know the kind of sums of money headed this way BUT were diverted elsewhere due to government wastage, poor asset management and theft of redistributable (to uplift the poor) taxes. We could have been at 5%+ p.a. of GDP growth. The attraction we hold is higher interest rates vs overseas all we need is to lower our risk so their money is safe here but anc (and voters) said " no" DA / ANC coalition will bring the risk to rightful place and taxes distributed to rightful place (the poor)
The road ahead is clear : In the medium term, options like separation - like Cape Exit ( KZN exit ). In the longer term an overhaul of both the governmental and electoral systems. Scrapping this silly political party system and building on quality and proper representation rather than populism, false promises, and deceit.
Fantastic listening to you Neil. All of the best with your recovery. God Bless!!!!!
Let this be a lesson at your age!! Tribe by Tribe!!! Let's treat everybody with dignity but let them fight their own battle!!!! Hope you learn now to run at night at Cape Flats, Nomzamo, and and and where else dit not bring you any votes, but strip you from your health and energy!!!!! Accept the fact that!!! They choose to live that lifestyle and don't need our interference!!!! Nothing has changed in thirty years, accept Lawlessness became our daily routine, and that they follow strictly!!!!
Hope you continue to the good fight Sir. May God heal you and give you great ideas to increase your base. 🙏
The ANC MUST NOT a have a majority in parliament. They have lorded it over us for 30 years. We need aGovernment for the people and not THE PARTY.
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Neil you are the best person so far to explain,to tell the truth,to break it down...RESPECT
All his vocal fyting came to exactly naught.
He still refuses to understand Whom he's dealing with....
Not too bad for someone with an mk as alma mater.
🤣🤣🤣
Suggest a post grad Univ course in negotiation.
He is in a losing battle, but he simply will not see that.
I strongly recommend security work.
For him.
Niel de Beer should be in Parliament. He possess the skills and knowledge that makes a good leader.
He is a camaflouged racist we don't want him.
Nah... He supported the ANC. He will be better joining the DA
Yes i agree NEIL MUST BE THERE
So, What, he is Not 'There' unless he backtracks and ass creep with the ANC, AGAIN!!!
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What a level headed autopsy. You are needed in parliament Niel
You must be the minister...Neil
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You are an asset SIR ,may the lord God heal you so that you can see many more years.
Do party members each vote for what other desisions their party proposes when in power
A true leader would not want to line his pockets and you are that leader Niel. Total respect
You are fantastic.Kind Regards Chris Hattingh.USA,FLORIDA.
Hierdie ou doen alles net vir selfgewin. Maar soos al die ander politici.
I know the feeling , Fought in Rhodesia, I am fighting Cancer for the second time, in the 80th still working . Stay strong Mnr. De Beer
Great friend of mine fought in Rhodesia, met him in Camperdown, KZN. Lost touch due to my living in Texas and no WhatsApp at that time. RIP Cyril English ❤
Mr. De Beer: U are Awesome, wish U warm Blessings always 🌷
We really need a leader like you in in this South Africa of today..
I voted for you Neil and do not regret it. We really need you in Parliament
Love Neil de Beer. Knowledgeable and positive. Real asset to the political arena.
Well done on being in remission of the big C! May you be fully recovered to continue to fight for justice!
Try carnivour😅
Thank you so much Neil. 🙏🙏🇿🇦🇿🇦
You're a good mam, Mr. Debeer. Blessings..
12 million registered voters didn't vote,disgraceful.
All of 66.8% of eligible registered voters voted in the 2020 US elections. In the UK it was 67%.
Then they want to be the first to carry on complaining 😜😜😜 they must just shut up 😔😭💔
Many people had to queue four hours, so not surprising many didn't bother
I didn't vote...section 24A.
12,5 million don't vote and I'm part of 13,5 who didn't even register to vote. Therefor 26 million didn't vote. We don't want to be part of the brothel.
South Africa needs to reduce the amount of political parties taking part in the elections. 10 Parties MAX. This would already change the political landscape. Over a 100 000 votes for parties that wont have a seat in parliament. Waste of votes.
@KGB19847 True these small parties a waste of Time
38 parties received less than 0,50% of the vote. Their total vote was 4.83% of the total.
The only way to reduce this ridiculous situation is to require a deposit of R1,5 million from any group or party that seeks to contest a national election.
So use approval or ranked ballots. Go check how many votes are wasted in UK, Canada or India.
@@duncandubois6134I also think that the current parties in parliament MUST get donations from supporters too. Not use taxpayer money t campaign
That would change things
The fact we had so many parties is proof democracy is working in SA, a 2 party state is not good for freedom of citizens to choose
Such a powerful man good to articipate in our democracy
It sad that he didn’t get a seat. We really do need him in parliament
@@truth-Hurts375who are you??
@@truth-Hurts375 I did google it: Neil De Beer worked for the apartheid state before defecting to the ANC’s Umkhonto weSizwe as an intelligence operative( ie. a spy). At the start of October 2020, after more than three decades and his name being linked to incidents ranging from murder to world-class rugby, De Beer announced his resignation from the ANC. He has since styled himself as an activist hellbent on becoming South Africa’s president.
So what is he going to do?
Agree 👍 but a political party that knows what NEIL DE BEER is worth, will grab him up very very soon .
@@truth-Hurts375 If you don't no who Neil de Beer is ,then your are fast asleep, you should f@kkin wake up, sleeping beauty 😴 😘.
I cry for my beloved South African 🇿🇦. May God grant us justice and truth 💜👼
I love your incredible insight Mr DE Beer. You have enormously amazing skills and I wish you were president. Thank you for this enlightening message. We are all pretty clueless regarding politics, well, I speak for myself in that. God bless you and our country
I'm liking the interviewer giving the interviewee a space to talk without interruption
SA can not lose the expertise of Neil ,i hope DA keeps him a seat in parliament.he knows the ins and outs of the ANC.
The DA will make a mistake of not giving Neil a Seat...like you said, he knows the In and Out, of the ANC 👌
He's not a part of the DA
Neil must be in parliament!!! (I'm a DA supporter!!!! 🙏🙏)
Of course he knows the anc/mk. He was once one of them.
He is a proper politician, he hunts with the hounds and runs with the hares. Very wishy washy.
@@ratioxcmcsa263DA can surely give him a ministerial position.
I Salute u sir Niel De Beer thank you
Whichever way the ANC decides to go, there will be another split. Part of them will never go with the DA and part of them will never go with MKP/EFF.
No, they'll all join MK
True that
Agreed
And in this 5 years. Please no looting or striking please. You voted for bad. So eat your bad for 5 years again
❤ to you wishing you further strength and complete healing we need you
Niel de Beer is a man of integrity! Wishing him all the best in the future❤
❤ 🇿🇦 God Bless you Mr De Beer...
I have respect for Neil de Beer. God bless him. 🙏🏻🙏🏻💐
Neil thank you for your stance and speaking so candidly.
I love this program guy's. Bcs you talks sense ❤❤❤
I feel your pain.Went through it myself but for cancer.Wishing you complete recovery.
What an intelligent, knowledgeable guy, very good speaker.
Continue remaining strong Neil and 🙏🏾 that you beat you been a pleasure listening to you on Bizness. Thank you for your wonderful insights..
Excellent interview ❤
Fascinating interview 👏
Neil is right with the tribulation vote. It is going to be difficult 5 years. Hope people pray for SA.
You mean “tribalism” which is very different to “tribulation”. Use a dictionary.
Neil is forgetting Freedom Front Plus………Afrikaaner tribe always vote Afrikaaner
@@Thegema101Not true!!! Majority voted DA!!! Around 30% FF+.. even the strongest Afrikaner region Orania has seen DA taking alot of votes away from FF+... FF+ is not radical at all, They do not represent right wing at all!!! When they did they attracted alot more votes!!! Yes but they've transformed to be very liberal... go check out their manifesto, they don't even stand up against farm murders anymore they were very quiet, While the DA has been very vocal on that especially in Parliament, The DA also fought for Afrikaans/any indigenous languages in schools, University etc, The DA has a lot of Afrikaner leaders in their top ranks aswell... So naturally they would vote for people also representing their rights!!! Orania's support has dropped for the FF+ because Orania leaders endorced no party!!! They told their people to go out and vote for whom ever you feel like, because no matter which party rules and has how many seats it means nothing to their local leaders as non of them are aligned to any political party, so it's not that VF+ is really a Afrikaner party they not!!! They have people from different ethnicities in their provincial leaderships aswell... VF+ is not a bad choice but they did nothing for their main voting block and is loosing them...
Never a clearer message on where we are and where we are going - this made me stand up and take note. Niel, your words and experiences will echo in how the future plays out without a doubt. Wisdom through experience by far the best teacher - stay the course whatever you do.
What a guy this Neil de Beer ,clever vibrant and knows his politics. DA should get him in there camp.
Definitely
I Respect this man and Corne Mulder. I'm a proud Patriotic Alliance member.
The PA saw an issue that the rest of South Africa(DA and ANC) didn’t understand because they were not worried about these communities. All that is required is that all groups of people voices be heard and that they also get a seat at the table. The fact that you class the PA voters under the same class as the rest, is the reason for them existing today.
Niel you're a hero no matter what anyone thinks. You are a real man for standing up for God's truth
You are a courageous man and I salute you! Excellent analysis ! Thank you !!!!
This is so true. I wish many SA citizens could hear this
What a brave man this is
sensible conversation and information. thank you, may you go from strength to Strength
God bless you abundantly give you strength to heal and fight for justice for us all. God will be watching over you with his healing hands Amen
Firstly allow me to say, Thank U Neil & may our Almighty Father GOD continue to Bless U & we Thank HIM for Full Healing & Restoration in yr body 🙏🏻
Neil i have listened carefully as to what u have said now during this interview, for me personally i believe the MPC needs to stick together & continue to build towards the 2029 Elections,
I understand the “Politics” of forming a Coalition, BUT ….. how does the DA go & join the ANC when for years they have fought them in Court, expose them in Parliament & at every opportunity, so how is that going to work?!
The DA is going to want “Very Key Positions” within Government & the ANC will NOT give that up too them,
The ANC will do a Coalition with the MK, the MK will join on key specific non negotiable terms,
1. CR is to be immediately recalled at President of SA & dismissed as the President of the ANC.
2. The New Incoming President will need to give JZ a Full Pardon of All Crimes.
Together the ANC & MK will be in Government,
What needs to happen & i say this Respectfully, the DA says that they want to put SA first, well the DA Members represent the Citizens of SA, they need to Stop their nonsense of this “big brother” act of theirs, that they are the “only” party capable of unseating the ANC, well that didn’t happen now did it, i mean John talks of how “they” have broken the stranglehold the ANC have had, the Majority, NO John U & the DA did NOT, it was due to the MK that the ANC are no longer the Majority,
The DA also needs to set aside the differences with all the other Parties & start working together, the MPC needs to stand together & go deep into the Townships, Rural areas & go get those 4/5million Voters that are eligible & can vote & bring them to the 2029 Elections, STOP trying to “persuade” existing ANC, MK, EFF Voters to come across, that will NEVER happen, we do NOT need the DA to continue taking out Adverts & Posting Messages All over Social Media as to how bad the ANC are, we know what is happening, the Citizens know it, BUT ….. instead go & do the hard work on the ground, not in some suburban area, deep down in the Townships, Rural Areas, we need those voters , they are already eligible, probably already registered as well, just tired of All this Political Drama, so let’s call them the NEW 4/5million Voters for 2029, that is EXACTLY what the MPC need to do !!!!
We need Leaders like Neil, i wish u well my friend, GOD Bless U 🙏🏻
#GOD1st#MPC🇿🇦🌈🙏🏻
100% agree with you. I've been saying this for year. The DA needs to rid itself of thr tag that it only looks after the interest of middle to upper class South Africans. If they want to grow in strength for 2029, speak to your township / rural voters and get some diversity in your leadership. People connect with a party that is representative of demographics in SA.
@@sds2954 Exactly my friend, i used to be a DA voter, i changed in 2019 & now vote for ActionSA, as i like what Herman stands for, ActionSA is still part of the MPC, i have absolutely NO issues in explaining as to why i NO longer vote for the DA, it’s because of their “Arrogance”, this “Big Brother” attitude of theirs, it needs to Stop, i mean now after the declaration of the elections, ONLY 58.6% of Voters came out & Voted, out of close too 27million that are Registered, that is NOT Good 😌🥲
As i mentioned in my comment, The MPC ( the entire membership ) needs to go & appeal to those Voters & ask them to come & vote at the next Provincial Elections & National in 2029, they must go out & secure “NEW” Voters, forget about trying to convince other Parties Voters to come across, that won’t happen 🤦🏼♂️
Take care my friend 🙏🏻🌈🇿🇦
I'm far too Catholic and capitalistic to support modern democracy but I agree with loads of what you wrote.
a party dnt work with any party who dnt meet thy values! That's what we ask as voters not the DA the voters vote fr the party who meet our values the eff no go, mk no go the other smaller parties I think ACDP is OK, the party of Neil is OK Actionsa is mybe OK
Well it too late for that. They want to abandon the moonshot pact. Very slimy of them to be honest
The smaller and new parties were surprising of note..the outcome is so true as you described it,,,cannot believe the Eastern Cape percentage,,the poorest province with the highest unemployment, chose to vote with the ANC,,,so sad,,,Neil so understands the landscape,,,I always said tribalism will rule this country,,,and so it begins,,
I wonder. Maybe it is due to the same phenomena that causes poor uneducated communities to have so many babies.
Stockholm syndrome. They're in love with their captors.
Tribalism was introduced by the Apartheid Government. Have you forgotten what they did to people of colour in South Africa, when they created Apartheid? That is the reason why Neil de Beer left them and joined the ANC! When Neil found out that the ANC was doing the same as the Apartheid Government, he resigned from the ANC too! I never voted for the useless BEE ANC!
@@TheSirse Yes, that, and a sprinkle of Kruger Dunning.
The EFF is the ANC youth League ,they've been there for this very occasion.regret is a meal served cold ,wish I had voted for this man.
Praise Allah
Thank you. ANC/EFF/MK - Troika from the start of MK formation. ANC wanted KZN. MK was the means. Crafty. An election of racial, tribalism, factionalism and identity politics. The Spear of the Nation has been drawn. Zuma? Clapping for a criminal. "Radical and Separatist State"? Yes. Democracy? Democracy is a front. It's all decided "behind". Let the Games Begin.
I love the intensity of this man - rational & logical!
Being honest in South Africa is a dangerous thing.
There are many countries in a far worse situation.
Ukraine, Putin’s Russia with his eternal threats, North Korea, parts of the Middle East, Iran, Afghanistan, Sudan. Various uprisings in African countries, Myanmar. Terrorist activities in a number of countries.
Taiwan has its cage rattled every now & then by the Chinese causing nervousness.
Hong Kong is not what it used to be.
Arrest, disappearance of people, is a known possibility & ever lurking in the background for many people who dare to not kowtow to China.
These are but a few countries that require strong nerves to navigate.
Europe is not what it used to be.
USA has big problems.
Everywhere prices have gone through the roof, services are bursting at the seams, irrespective of country.
To believe South Africa is the only bad boy on the block is being utterly naive.
There is no perfect country. There is no Utopia.
We are living in dangerous times, no matter where in the world you are.
Wrong place, wrong time could be anywhere in the world.
Maybe .... Just maybe..this is the direction that MOST South Africans would like to go based on election results. Instead of peddling 'doomsday ' what what... Let's get behind transforming our political and economical landscape together. Regardless of who is in power
Yes! People did not vote for tribes, they voted for personalities and radical ideologies. Imagine, the people saying it was tribalism should ask why people changed their votes. Let's be honest, we didn't know these people and smaller parties. We knew the loudest voices. KZN would have voted IFP but Buthelezi died and for much last there wasn't even a campaign from IFP. Look at the manifesto, not a lot of people agree with EFF policy. And ActionSA was not voted for due to the minimum wage problem. Which is the same policy that DA has. The floods was the determiner of KZN.
I like de Beer way of thinking... stand together and get rid of the hole ANC.
Neil I salute you for your dedication and determination 🎉
You are to be admired Neil! Don't give up! We are in transition, continue to bring about and influence change! 🙏
Ñow saluut De Beer in That South Africa With all what you fourth for God Bless you ❤
The people that didn't Vote, mustn't Complain about how South Africa, will struggle, to get our Economy, back on Track...they will feel it to, so hope they are satisfied, with themselves 😮
It is quite the irony that comments like these are almost always the result of a lack of understanding of the South African landscape and how it affects the economy. I am going to assume you think that those that did note vote should have voted for the DA (as presumably the party with the highest chance to go up against the ANC, notwithstanding the fact that a vote for the MK or EFF would be economically pointless) EVEN IF that person does not agree with DA policy. Firstly, how dare you tell someone that does not subscribe to the values and policy of ANY party that they should vote anyway because anything would be better than the ANC, specifically for the economy? Secondly, what even do you mean by "to get our Economy, back on Track"? High single figure GDP growth? Social upliftment? Increased foreign investment? Specifics are important. Lastly, I cannot even begin to overstate how mistaken every single person is that think that SA's problems will be solved as soon as another party is in power. I am sure you will vehemently disagree of course, but then I will ask, what specifically do you believe an alternative party will do to enact change, and more importantly how exactly will they achieve said changes? Anyone can dream up what they want, but it is much harder to execute such when you take into account that nothing exists in a vacuum. There is always, always something that has to be sacrificed and in South Africa it is politically untenable to make radical changes to policy that will affect the economy because no matter what you choose, you are going to crush the poor (at least in the short to medium term). Guess where your votes are going to come from?
@@siubhan2047 very well said
Those who did not vote, have left the country to chance.
Quite the opposite. If you didn’t vote then you didn’t agree to anyone ruling over you and you are the only one that has a legitimate right to complain. If you voted you bought into the system and lost your right to complain.
@@siubhan2047paragraphs are important. they were introduced in grade 6 English for a reason.
Though i agree to 51% your comment. Its equally unproductive to do nothing at all because the abstainers are useless in any discourse e.g., education, treasury, etc.
Contribute somehow. Join the DA if you want, challenge policy. On And on
IEC was insufficient- We are 2 people who made application for special vote. I got confirmation but when the time came, they said that we do not have a special vote. We are bedridden and could not go vote. I adequate management. Thanks to Neil. Love him❤
I'm a ANC member but for the sake of the country, ANC/ DA coalition will make SA better , unlike Mk/ EFF coalition
ANC and DA does not work , as they are different from an ideological point of view. The policies and manifesto’s does not align at all. That partnership doesn’t present the view of the majority of South African’s.
Udakiwe
Then you were never an ANC member don't lie, you don't understand DA and ANC stand point.
Oh by the way I'm praying for that myself, so that they can have power to arrange the arrest of your president because it will help them to lead SA😅😅😂
What type of ANC member are you that can support working with the DA?😂😂 Wena udinga iDC nyamazane
How will you manage the racist attitude of the D.evils Alliance when it comes to BEE, land reform, nationalization, foreign policy?
Bless you
UIM NIEL GOD BLESS YOU ❤
Mnr. De Beer if it was not for the Zulus, the ANC would still be having more power. So which deal was better? ANC in power or an ANC broken down? We gave South Africa a better deal. How else were we gonna break the ANC dominance? You can blame tribalism all you want but none of you managed to break the ANC.
You might have a point here ..... but you can't have it both ways !! ..... pick a side that has us people in mind & serve the country for the best !!
@@benjaminlabuschagne9101 and that side is not DA.
Correct. Fortunatly the ANC continues to break itself. 🙂
@syabonganxumalo Well said 👍🏼
@@siyabongajacobdlamini1764I'm not a da fan, but, logically, why not?
At least from the Western Cape: Thank You.
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EFF and MK is a scary thought though and both are as bad or worse than ANC
DA is theee worst party ever. Full of racists. DA will never EVER! Maybe in Europe not here.
Why are they worse?
@@SibusisoNgcobo-qb7st They're militant, aggressive, radical and working hard at keeping racism alive and playing victims. Not to mention Zuma's self benefitting relationship with the Gupta's, evasion of prison time and his homestead while the poor continued to suffer.
Good to listen to this man's point of view... Perhaps 5 years of uncertainty in South Africa... MK and ANC all the same, just different tribes...
This is soo stressful we are all going to have lost weight as a country after this discussions
My hart gaan uit na jou Neil, my hart is stukkend. Jy het so hard gewerk. So opreg en eerlike mens. Maar ek is so trots op jou. Jy is 'n yster💪🙏♥️
Well said Niel.. Strongs for future!!
Oooouh man, may the good Lord be with you and heal your cancer. You are a phenomenal man!
Jy is n wonderlik mens, ek bid vir jou gesondheid en Dat reg en geregtigheid Sal seevier. Jy moet rustig raak. En konsentreer om gesond te word. 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
He is a proper fool in the mould of Julius Malema. 😂
You are a great man.
DA must not form government with ANC. They should work on a memorandum of cooperation with ANC to support ANC in a minority government. ANC+DA would be the end of both parties.
Don't think so, I think the DA will force the individuals in the ANC that enable corruption to be dealt with.
I agree with Mike, if they form a coalition it could be devastating for their next elections, leaving the door open for MK, EFF.
The MK party and EFF will radicalize their support and cause bi-monthly looting like we had here in KZN in 2021.
Unnecessary lives were lost, businesses closed down and jobs were lost.
The DA campaign was to "rescue SA". There's two scenarios... ANC + DA coalition is the only way to rescue SA... The other option is ANC + MK which will be the doomsday coalition... so what's the best option for our country?
@@GavinTremble no need for a coalition. DA is effective as opposition. If they govern with ANC EFF and MK become opposition to ANC/DA and that would be a catastrophe
@@MikeOchtman Ok Mike, I understand your viewpoint now... you are right
You are one and million truth must be told
Very sad Niel, please don't give up.
He speaks so clear!
Thanks Niel and Chris, What would make perfect sense for South Africa is for the DA and partners to approach MK quickly and form a coalition, that way the rot of the ANC and EFF would be left in the dark and South Africa would be saved and spark again. Each bring an incredible amount of good and skills as well as goodwill which is what we need in SA for the youth of the future. And then another bomber is neither party take the reigns of President but appoint a man lkike Moegeng Moegeng as the countries new President with two deputy presidents being one from DA and one from MK. If ANC and EFF get to MK first, its over for SA and Zimbabwe will shine far above us. We will be back to square one. God Bless South Africa.
But MK is part of the rot as well. In fact, they're the greatest percentage of it. Also, both the DA and MK have said they have no interest in working together.
Zuma will never coalesce with the DA.ANC and DA as they share same liberal policies.i mean the current ANC will chose to go with the DA to protect ramaphosa from the chop.
How can capitalists and Marxists work together? They can’t. Have you read the MK manifesto, it’s crazy. Ending the Constitution, nationalising banks …
MK said they will only enter into discussions with progressive black parties which the DA is not
Thank you Neil for enlightening the citizens on what has emerged post election. Wishing you all the best in your endeavours for justice and truth. God bless you.
What happened with the overseas votes. I don't know if I believe in the elections held.
(sigh) the overseas votes are irrelevant, won't change anything...
78.5 % for DA
They made it very difficult for overseas voters. My son couldn't register in Netherlands as IEC website was a problem
Spirit determines physics/ the physical. What we see is only the unveiling and the unfolding of the already there realities. Strength to you De Beer...
If we are going the separatist way, let's do it all the way: Cape Independence.
Neil , i ask you to please keep fighting for what is right and true , I pledge my support to you and your party which i was giving to another member of the coalition.
Neil missed the boat because he wasn't radical enough , Gayton rose because he was clear in he's message and his attitude backed it up .
I believe the mpc must push for a joint coalition with the anc not just the DA. So that the Mpc with a joint 31% can heavily influence government and attempt to push out the anc.
Thank you DA behind you all the way 💙💙💙💙🙌🙌🙏🙏
A, true leader with wisdom
Hopefully he now finally learns exactly What & Who SA really is.
My vote for you at national was not wasted. Hoping for your rise.
Please, please DA,no,no,no,no it will be your end. DA must stay as opposition, must have someone to keep the folks accountable. Don't be damn foolish.........please!!!!
They can remain opposition and still vote along in first sitting when president is voted. They recieve key cabinet positions like energy health
And still curb anc retain independent identity via their mumicipal
President can be non da non anc
Anc mk or anc eff unity is a frightening prospect there will be nothing left to oppose by 2029
ANC EFF mk is surely frightening to certain people in this country.
But to some it is a necessary to achieve certain goals and right certain historic wrongs.
@@tncleotlela8720 you right the wrongs by attracting foreign investment via reliable SOE's
tax the capitalists
redistribute to the poor.
The hurt others to fix me option has never worked
@quentinadkins432 Yeah, that has worked so well in the past 30 years.
@@tncleotlela8720 that is exactly what they have not done for 30 years
I know the kind of sums of money headed this way BUT were diverted elsewhere due to government wastage, poor asset management and theft of redistributable (to uplift the poor) taxes. We could have been at 5%+ p.a. of GDP growth.
The attraction we hold is higher interest rates vs overseas all we need is to lower our risk so their money is safe here but anc (and voters) said " no"
DA / ANC coalition will bring the risk to rightful place and taxes distributed to rightful place (the poor)
Wow. God will make things right. You just hold on.. Strongs 🙏🙏🙏🙏
The voters have showed South Africans their hand..to hell with SA whether it survives or burns down..
When they voted MK, EFF and ANC
This man and his part are sooo under rated ... if only someone with this intellect could rule this count tree
So in short nothing changed. The DA is stuck in the 20% to 22% range and that will never change. Same old same old except now we have chaos.
People left in Germiston aria not voting due to the IEC BAD SERVICES
they waiver any right to complain about lack of service delivery. they are as equal as those who voted the ANC
Knee jerk, narcy way of thinking, but good luck
Thank you god bless you
God will take care of you, will pray for you be strong and trust in the LORD.
"Some South Africans will never appreciate South Africa until after they have helped destroy it, and have then begun to suffer the consequences.”
Does anyone remember the Brenthurst foundation polling the DA at 35% ?
You are great and sir. BOTSWANA loves u for ur action.
The road ahead is clear : In the medium term, options like separation - like Cape Exit ( KZN exit ).
In the longer term an overhaul of both the governmental and electoral systems. Scrapping this silly political party system and building on quality and proper representation rather than populism, false promises, and deceit.