Honestly speaking, as black people we must really start thinking economically if we want to uplift ourselves. When we get the land, we need to create jobs for the community in order to decrease unemployment. This thing of wanting to own land just because it was land of your forefathers and you're not making something out of it should stop because it is not taking us anywhere.
Nonsense. This is why SA blacks keep getting shafted by their historical enemies. POSSESSION is 90% of the law!! What you do with your possession is your own business. Why are these racists even allowed a say in the matter?? Zimbabweans may have suffered, but at least restored their dignity and the land reform is bearing fruits in a big way.
@@werner240 What could you possibly know of the dignity of Africans? Didn't your kind legislate and pursue a policy of visiting indignities and misery upon the native population (and everywhere else your shadows darkened)? In you world, the African is fully content with a full belly and aspires to nothing else. Well now bear witness, after your evil, unilateral and illegal economic sanctions have been removed, Zimbabwe continues to be one of the fastest growing economies in the world. What with embarrassing amounts of Lithium, gold, platinum ( and Platinum Group Metals), diamonds kicking around on the surface, rare earth minerals, oil/natural gas.............and most of all, our fertile productive ancestral lands!!
@@werner240 Once again this YOUTube cesspool removes my response to your crap. What could you possibly know of the dignity of Africans when you diliberately visited indignities upon Africans?
@@Michael-nu6fb This is my response to your other racist friend:Once again this YOUTube cesspool removes my response to your crap. What could you possibly know of the dignity of Africans when you diliberately visited indignities upon Africans? The land was distributed to 300 000 Zimbabwean families. I can tell you we don't have such a bloated cabinet. You can read independent research on the land redistribution by Ian Scoones of the University of Sussex.
The ANC government is giving people yards smaller than tennis courts to build RDP houses and yet talk about land redistribution. Why not give people bigger yards so that they can expand on those RDP miniscule plots if they are so keen on land redress? The only people that benefit from land grab are ANC cadres and their families and friends.
What kind of stupid statement is this? The DA is on the best land while the West suffers. That was a fools statement you made. GET Out along with the rest of these low minded racists.
Anc ayisebenzeli abantu abahluphekayo izisebenzela yona at some point kuyadingeka sibe honest nd face the truth if wonke lama political party athi alwela abantu abamnyama futhi ekhuluma into eyodwa yini eyenza ahlukane ? Politics is all about power and money
Land is the property of the kings. Land is not expensive because we are not selling land. KZN dominates WC economically. KZN is not 73% in black hands .
@BelieveInMiracles888 You are being misled by vague conspiracy theories that have nothing to do with reality! HZ is a true home grown patriot who cares deeply about our beautiful country and all of her people!!
Because of Western Influence. Once they are kicked out the resources can be distributed fairly amongst the REAL and TRUE BLACK Africans not these fake colonizers wannabees controlling industry through NeoColonialism.
Thanks for your professional interview ! , even if you don't agree you give the guest a chance to talk and let the viewers make up thier own mind . So many other journalists fight with their guests as if it Is a cage fight . 👏
I never use to like helen for many year when she lead DA but as i see suffer under ANC and noise and empty head in EFF over years as i have grown in my age and listen to this polititions then my mind and respect for Helen has grown very very much. I now wish she could to be the president . Very wise lady.
You say so because someone borrow you the brain to think. Carry on thinking Land is not a source of wealthy as what she mentioned. You will left only a shake(tshotshombeni) as an inheritance to your kids. You beeing fooled by so called employment.
I don't know why anyone wants to farm anyways its so hard and risky. If you want to see your face look in the mirror, if you want to see your arse go farming 😄 We need industry, investment and jobs just as much.
Yes KZN, Eastern Cape etc do have the land that is laying around in the hands of Government and King/chiefs.Only If people can be equipped with knowledge of using the land to produce.
You should know that land, like everything in life, is suitable for certain uses and not others. Farming land was taken freely from its rightful owners long ago. In many cases people were forcefully moved from their land without any consideration. The land issue cannot be wished aways by just saying that people should farm where they are, even if that land is not suitable for that.
The Whites instituted The Natives' Land Act of 1913, which "prohibited the establishment of new farming operations, sharecropping or cash rentals by blacks outside of the reserves. Now they are against land reform, claiming that black-owned land is unproductive. In 1947, the USA occupation government in Japan instituted land reform that transferred land from 8000 land owners to 3 million landless peasants; those peasants became the backbone of Japan's middle class. Land, like property, can be used as a source of capital.
Japanese are prepared to work and expand, subsistence farmers are not. Real succesful Black farmers learned well from those who know how. Let Africa be a lesson to you, not mother Africa but the mother of excuses. Got no where since liberation in the 19 60's. Who is keeping you down? .Quote Dr Lumumba. "The village fools you elect as leaders".
The Japanese are legendarily known for their hard work and honesty. Nuff said. If you are not faithful with a little you will not be faithful with much. Let that be the method.
If you don't know what you are talking about and would rather listen to a White woman who has a hidden agenda it's your problem but, don't come and talk umsuzo . Land restitution in this country is not even at the 25% stage . What people did with their returned land is none of your business. It's theirs. Instead,ask why does this government not do as the apartheid government did and send qualified extension officers from the dept of agriculture to train and advice the land beneficiaries??? Why doesn't the Landbank give these farmers low interest farm loans like the settlers that you love soooooo much did to/for White people???
Just making up stories is not the real truth. Land restitution started before 1994, fact as our family farm was expropriated the National party. And all the surroundings farms. Payment was 1/8 of real value, legal fees resulted in debt on our side. So walked away in debt. All these farms are non functional today. Helen knows exactly what is going on. Anc are sitting on land, much has benn claimed by high level cadres. Facts. Not you drivel.
I agree. We blacks refuse to use common sense. In Europe and US people don't fight for land because it is not easy to make it productive. Africans kill each other for land, get it, then die in poverty waiting for donors. As long as educated Africans remain fewer than the illiterate who use emotions, this African curse will keep us fighting for the next century.
The question is why does the Ngonyama trust own the tribal land in KZN and not the people. Surely the Zulu people should own the land where their house is and where their fields are. The Ngonyama trust did not own the land in the days of Senzagkhona pre Shaka. Then Shaka killed his brother to be king and conquered the tribes in what later became known as Zululand and Natal. The people in Zululand and old Transkei don't own their land now
We are happy with our land under the ngonyama trust.The king is the sole trustee,bcos we fought and our ancestors die for it.She knows they control the markets immediately we produce our foods they will block us to access the markets.White people origin came from Europe.
@@mashobane6177 Read some history. Queen Mokabaya was the first wife of Shaka's father. She was of the Nzuza clan from Mfuli and her family were potters. Ba ya Bumba ukhamba. She was also with Cetshwayo when he lost the battle of Ulundi and Mokabaya was said to be 114 years old then. She committed suicide after the battle of Ulundi. She was also Shaka's military commander for uKhahlamba and she was from the amaHlubi tribe. She was the reason Shake never waged war on the Hlubi people or conquered them. She is probably the most remarkable woman in Zulu history and should be more respected and talked about.
@@mashobane6177 Dingaan was the only I have heard about involved in Shaka's death. If there are more please tell me about them, what their names were and who were there mothers. As I understand Nandi was not even Makhoti when she bore Shaka and ends up as the 3rd wife as the old men and women taught me when I was very young.
Venezuela is not a good comparison either as just with both Zimbabwe and Cuba, both have been weighed down with crushing biased sanctions. Try tieing someone's hands then ask them to clap. Don't act surprised when they fail to do so. BTW Stalin may have saved russia and quite possibly the rest of the global majority from white supremacist fascism so he was a correct man of his time.
Why go so far, all the way to Russia and Venezuela, when a quick glance across the Limpopo is enough. And not just geographically closer, but also a much more applicable comparison in many other ways.
Unracist she’s definitely not !! People conveniently forget when she labelled ‘Blacks’ as monkeys. She talks about land…what about the land the whites stole from the ‘Blacks’, when they conquered South Africa!!😡😡
Those who fight evil are always hated by those who don't. That's why if you portray yourself as "a good guy" you will be less popular and be called the real villain, instead of the actual villain. That's what Helen has to deal with.
@dogsand77 The same can be said for African Empires attacking each other, committing genocide & ethnic cleansing and selling each other into slavery. The same can also be said for the millions who have died through warring Empires in Asia, the Middle East and the Americas all throughout history. That is the nature of Empires, as that is the human condition. Anywhere you have groups of humans with overlapping interests, you will find conflict. The difference though is that Communist Empires actively seek to commit genocide. Its a core policy of any communist govt. And its always against their own countrymen (those who don't agree with them). Furthermore, the nature of Empire is to build, improve and expand (it would be too expensive to not do this as the troops, govt officials, supplies etc to the colony need to be paid for), that is why most Empires leave behind ready-made countries that only need a good govt to take over (which, in Africa, has never happened). Whereas Communist Empires, again as a policy and required by Marx, seek to destroy or confiscate everything and make the populace 100% enslaved to the govt.
@@Augustus65 Well said and 100% true. Unfortunately there will always be people who want to be a victims and will by choice be ignorant of the greater truth.
There's no private ownership of land in African culture...That is why the KHOI did not fight or chased Jan van Riebeek, ...till he became greedy and started killing them and raping their women.... African people moved all over the continent using land not owning it,... Private ownership of land, is a European greedy concept...
There's no history of private ownership of land in African culture. That is why the KHOI did not fight or chased Jan van Riebeek... until he became greedy and started killing and raping their women... African nations were moving around using land for grazing, not owning it. Private ownership of land is a European concept fueled by greed....
@senzomemela1311 This doesn't make any sense bruh. African tribes had literal territories and fought over land and resources too. Private ownership of land is a concept as old as time.
@@DragonReaper1998Liar. You use such cheap arguments against your house girls and boys African kings never owned land or had power to raise taxes or tribute unlike the robber kings of Europe. People were governed by consent in Africa that is why our kings didn't have great opulence
I'm with you, she does not answer his question direct. Imagine somebody takes what is yours and the ones who now has say you must prove it's yours and buy it back is complete bull@@nkosimkhwanazi6223
She makes a lot of sense. We have to apply economics to our assets to prosper. We need to stop applying sentiments in all decision-making, history notwithstanding. Productivity under my people has been compromised. I would need Helen Zille as president.
Singapore - strong leader worked; but very different leadership and management capabilities and foundational belief system, economic frame of reference and vision.
Absolutely “ land is not a source of wrath, it’s expensive dirt unless you develop it” love this. The obsession with owning land is chronically out of wack now. It neither uplifts people to a better standing or create jobs.
THANKS ELLEN FOR THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING ELSE BUT THE TRUTH.. HOWEVER SINCE 1994 WHATS TRUE IS FALSE AND WHATS RIGHT HAS BECOME WRONG.. ETC.. ETC
You talking rubbish ,black are victims of colonialism and apartheid and oppression it’s fact . When Jews talked about their you understand and sympathise but when it comes to black it’s victimhood such hypocrisy
@@sandilemfeka4658 The problem with victimhood mentality is that it sticks with you even after the oppression is removed. What do you think the story of Exodus was. It was to free the Jews from slavery. God's problem was getting the victim mentality out of them
@@UserDontiAS Oh you mean Shaka Zulu then right! Because let's at least agree life was pretty shit under him and the rest of the "kings" You living naked and barefooted in the bush! Sans a written language, numeracy and technology of any kind. Living from hand to mouth, one day at a time. Not knowing when you will be executed for either being accused of witchcraft or crying enough at the death of his mother. I'm sure you get the picture.
@UserDontiAS ok but pay us for the double life expectancy, 96% of you won't exist without our systems and technology. How many have come over the last 300 years to be close to us ? If we that bad you should be moving to Zimbabwe and Mozambique not the other way around? Why do millions come here even in apartied? South African land is poor compared to Zimbabwe and Mozambique land . You better off because we here it's a fact not an opinion. Shut up and get to work you not getting anything for free , but if you can think and work you can have a dream life . Go do it and stop bitching like a little girl .
Your knowledge of. history is limited and crooked! The Bantu people originate from Cameroon and migrated through Congo, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Botswana ... and never settled anywhere. The Bantu 'took' land from the KhoiSan that were in the region more than 70 000 years earlier than the Bantu. Bantu never owned land ... they constantly migrated after grazing and rain. Why don't you claim land in Cameroon, Congo, Zambia, Zimbabwe Botswana etc? There was NO country called South Africa until 1910 when it was declared a 'union' by Britain.
Was is it Cameroon or Congo or Angola? Oh, it doesn´t matter, we just made it up to justify colonialism, even if the facts are contrary. And by the way, Khoisan exist in different parts of Africa, esp. South and East (Tanzania), just like "Bantus" and yes, they are also intermixed with each other, whereby many Khoisans intergrated into the "Bantu" tribes/nations just like anywhere else in the world similarly. While we are at it, what is your business in Africa? What ever we do with each other as africans good or bad, its´OUR business not yours Mlungu. Or do Africans determine what Asians, Arabs, (native) Americans, Oborigines in AUS, Europeans do with their continent, land? The latter fought, steal, kill (still do see Ukraine/Russia, Balkan Wars of the nineties, Nothern Irland bombings, sessessions and detentions in Spain/Catalonya where Barcelona etc)? It´s their continent, place, business. Period. Or should Chinese by the virtue of their growing strength take over Europe by force and say you Birith are Anglo-Saxonians from Saxony in Germany, and must leave England and Germans, you are Barbarians and must leave Germany towards Caucasia/Iran bc you are arians etc? Europe for Europeans. Asia for Asians. Africa for AFrica. Simple. And you come here, have the audacity to discuss on the matter of the southern tip of Africa. If I were you, I´ll humble myself ASAP or pack and back to Europe (please not Australia, NZ, Canada, USA) to try to terrorise the natives there with the same white suprematist BS. Update, Europeans don´t really embrace you either, even for them white South Africans are to crass, most have moved on (the Dutch King has apologized for colonialism and everything that happend under its reign when you guys (mostly poor Europeans) left for the colonies and fabricated superiority. One more last thing, when southern Europe was colonised by the North Africans/Arabs aka Moors from 711 to 1492 the rest of Europe finally came together and fought back to take back their land from the Arab colonizers.. Europe never accepted, rightfully so, the Arabs on their land, no matter how long they ruled and what good things they brought in there (go to Andalucia, Spain and see the beautiful architecture, astronomy/math science brought by the Moors. Europe wasn´t not impressed and eventually kicked them out. some Moors/Arabs stays under the rule of the Europeans as a minority up to this day, without political, commercial, or any power whatsoever. They accepted their place and, as individuals, may do well or not, but they know they are Arabs not Europeans just like any communities who follow common sense. Which leaves you with one option: humble yourself, you are at the end of the colonial road. India, China/Asia, Middle Eeast, and Africa make 80 soon 90% of world population. It should all be about humans and humanity, but you decided otherwise and we and the rest of the world are wising up accordingly. I think we are done here. We should act like Britian and Europe today for those who do not want it otherwise.
@weymouthesterhuizen1145 The very capable and focused blue machine ( DA) is trying to create a new class of property owners from amongst the poor so that poor people have an asset in their name (Title Deeds) that they can use or leverage to further their own personal interests and also pass on to their heirs and family when they die! This programme has been enormously successful so far!!
@@tonitappous2422 I believe that and not doubting....so what are the rest doing when it come to politicians and how many more people need help....get me now.
Who the Fuck are THEY ????? Do you live on the Moon??? There is only US !!! Go learn your history Domkop....many White people got land for free in 1933 during the great depression and returning soldiers from WW11 also got land for free....my own family was part of that so I know what I am talking about !!! Dom Doos !!!
@ForeverYoung-qz2if They work really hard to take the rights from other races so much for only wanting equality. All races are in the same boat but not all races want laws to take thing away because of the colour of their skin and not all races and calling for murder of other races.
She knows the value of the Land very well. Thus why she doesn't want with it. There is a time to ask and there will be a time to take what belongs to us Africans. I don't understand why we spent so much time talking about this land, whiles
I disagree with that, we can't give land to people who don't have necessarily skills to use it, we will end like Zimbabwe! Ownership only shouldn't be a descusion.
The most successful land reform in SA is currently happening in the Western Cape!! Beneficiaries are given Title Deeds ( real ownership) as well as skills transfers and ongoing support so that they will succeed!!
Helen thinks she can mucro-manage us with her being evasive to the reality. Their ways if dispersing our forefathers in the arable land dhould be scaled down to Ingwenyama trust.
When we say we want our land back we mean that we want our land back. This guy whose interviewing is doing a great job by saying the truth but im a very good way. History proves that it was ours cause all that land was taken from our fourfathers and there's nothing that we need to prove. We not asking for the land to go to direct individuals but rather the people and when we have our land back we will then learn what to do with the land.
It amazes me how black SA citizens want land. Unless you hve the capital to work the land it means nothing. Even big farmers tdy ate selling their farms because it's too expensive to farm.
If you like the idea of living in a failed state, vote ANC, EFF, or MK. If you like the idea of eradicating corruption, crime, and poverty, as well as building a resilient and high-performaning economy (the best on the continent), then put your faith in a credible opposition party or independent. The MPC has enormous potential to right the ship.
My concern is that I have not heard any of the MPC parties mention anything about our individual freedom and liberty ... why does that matter? We don't want to undergo another lockdown situation and we don't want to be forced into taking medicine ad being threated with heavy fines and jail sentences. Following UN / Global agenda's is one of the reasons for the ESKOM mess.
@@lornameerkat7480 OHM the organic humanity movement, UIM, HOPE4SA and FF Freedom front are with ACDP on that one. All of the above parties are aligned with ECONOMIC Freedom, FAMILY Freedom and HEALTH Freedom 💚☮️🔆
Lol😅😅😅 so you want you bread buttered 🧈 on either side s ,land, food health care,electricity, etc etc you want for free,and you want to lay back and expect the taxpayers to pay for you convenient life style 😅😅.
4 basic elements of economic production; -land - labour - capital - management. ANC government has thrown land, labour (beneficiaries) and lots of capital at land issue's, however whats lacking is sound economic & ecological fundamentals in developmental approach & dismal levels of management. Management is the key that allocates & organizes resources towards economically, socially & environmentally beneficial outcomes.
The most successful land reform in SA is currently happening in the DA governed Western Cape!! Beneficiaries are given Title Deeds ( real ownership) as well as mentoring, skills transfers and ongoing support so that they can succeed!
@@AwkwardLeon69420 we have full rights to Ingonyama land (Title deed from the chief in hand). Developing the land seems tough. Government needs to see “owners capital” to intervene (which is stupid but understandable) and let me not mention banks. Not all of us had great grandfathers who were Verwoerds advisors or afgri members. But we’re coming for the agricultural industry trust me 👍
Ramaphosa says he is processing Phala Phala refund. CHAPTER 16: RECOMMENDATION 264. In light of all the information placed before the panel, we conclude that this information discloses, prime facie, that the President may have committed: • 261.1 A serious violation of the section 96[2][a]. • 264.2 A serious violation of section 34[1] of PRECCA. • 264.3 A serious misconduct in that the President violated section 96 [2][b] by acting in a way that is inconsistent with his office. • 264.4 A serious misconduct in that the President violated section 96[2][b] by exposing himself to a situation involving a conflict between his official responsibilities and his private business of the Constitution.
Well balanced interview, the interviewer gives the guest to speak, I just watched Cartblanche and the colourded guy was very angry at Hellen Zille for no reason missing the chance to conduct a well balanced interview.
The most successful land reform in SA is currently happening in the DA governed Western Cape. Beneficiaries are given Title Deeds ( real ownership) even though the land was paid for by the Western Cape Government!!
@tonitappous2422 the same DA that only cares about white areas and does not two shits about areas where black and colored people live. They only know those places when we have to vote
I'm Kenyan but this is not the discourse we see online. They don't say that about land ownership. If people in KZN and EC cant manage good land, how can they manage marginal lands in Western cape?
@@AT-gu8by I am (google my second name) but our situation was different. The lands West of the Fox river were not occupied when they arrived unlike in our case where they displaced us. Plus, you have made us believe that you are landless but the stats she shared say otherwise. I think you have just subdivided your land more than them over the years.
Let's start with giving back the land to the rightful owners then discuss productivity and a way forward for ALL SAs to benefit.... MK & EFF.... I'm confident we will accomplish that mission 😊
The apartheid system benefited white people who to this day, still enjoy that privilege. Apartheid/white supremacy was a crime against humanity, say what you want about corruption, the corruption you have heard since 1994 is not even a percentage of whites took from the people of this country.
@@livebyhope She was voted the best Mayor in the World in 2008! She really knows her stuff!! If we could just unite as the Rainbow Nation, South Africa could reach great heights with success and prosperity for all!!
Do you mow that four out of every five new jobs in SA over the past five years were created in the DA governed Western Cape?? See - DA delivers for the poor and vulnerable, BusinessDay. See - Impressive new school in the Western Cape, UA-cam.
According to government's own census in the 3 most fertile provinces of SA nearly 70% of land is in black hands. In the other 6 provinces 50% of land is in black hands. So according to government, the majority of SA's land is in black hands.
I think its an absolute disgrace that south african children go to bed hungry at night (and during the day) when there is so much fertile land avalaible that could produce the food needed. Outside Mbombela there was a sucessful land claim put in and was subsequently subdivided and sold it off for housing - and yet this is some of the most fertile land in the country.
She should be worried. Like Zimbabwe. They chases out the farmers, now they do not have enough food or jobs. We don't want you to starve. There is no other country where our homeless can go for work.
@Deontjie nah u found us here in this continent living and surviving all by ourselves for centuries.. it's not like life in Africa started when colonizers arrived
@@amangileqwabaza5703 We moved down from Europe, you moved down from central Africa. Zimbabweans are now moving down from Zimbabwe. Does that make Zimbabweans South Africans?
@Deontjie no one moved from anywhere we were here in Africa , bones of people r found all over southern Africa and those bones r skeletons of African people who used to live here. How do u know if we nwver moved from South to Central Africa before we moved back to South??
@@amangileqwabaza5703 Then you say Egyptians are also Africans? And Zimbabweans and Nigerians can vote in South Africa. And you can vote in Algeria. Africa is a divided country. Most scientist agree that the Sterkfontein caves are the cradle of humankind. And that all people originates from there. Even white people. But you don't agree, seeing that you have never heard of Sterkfontein or science.
Exactly i agree with the grant its an insult and the president placing age restriction on jobs what must peole do in their 40s thats unemployed and 50 these are people with qualifications and skills and experience but can't get jobs because they cater only to a certain age category so what must the middle age unemployed people do than they must also get a decent grant like pensioners and people with disabilities even though they can work but can't get jobs due to their age
That would be 10s of millions of South Africans. *Natives are under no obligation to be culturally static or labels in a book.* "khoisan" is a 20th century sloppy ahistoric abstraction. San refers to foragers or hunters or for ancestral pygmies millennia ago. Khoi was a Euro broad generic reference to *Cape pastoralists.* A way of life reference. The native South African has blended pygmy and proto-agrarians (proto-Bantu) millennia ago. This blend is who Europeans found, so talking about migration hypotheses of the ancestors is of no relevance. The pastoralists (khoi/khwe) they found in the Cape were a blend of pygmy & ancient proto-agrarian. That's literally what a native South African is *today* with millennia of heritage. (Usually found banded together under a handful of HOUSES that became umbrellas in colonial times like the then minor ascendant Xhosa house.) *Again, Natives are under no obligation to be culturally static or labels in a book.* *That's not how human generational offspring or lineage works.*
The guest could have SA economically strong within a generation but ANC and govt policy burdens the process and created the problems that people of good will are trying to solve. May God bless SA w peace and prosperity.
It is a bitter truth what Hellen is saying. Because I have seen in my area that the land was previously used to farm and grow food is now being used to build event hosting venues and shebeens. I think our traditional leaders and communities should be sensitize on the dangers of selling and turning more fertile land into non-farming activities
Sorry HZ, people cant simply do what they want on private land, ask anyone who wants to change land use on their land about EIA processes, SOLUM, heritage issues etc.
Following the end of apartheid in 1994. 9.7 percent of white commercial farmland has been transferred to black people. White South Africans, 9% currently own 73 percent of the commercial agricultural land. While black people own more than 50% of agricultural land in just 2 of the country’s 9 provinces.
Well, those people like farming and they do it fairly well. Its no use having land and then end up not being a farmer because you don't know how to farm and don't like farming.
The land issue is a legitimate historical cause of disempowerment and resentment. However, redistribution of agricultural land could not create wealth and jobs on any useful scale now. Back when whites grabbed the land in past centuries , farming was the biggest part of the economy, here and everywhere. But times have changed. Agriculture is no longer a significant share of the economy -- in SA in 2024, farming accounts for only 2.4% of GDP. Any benefits of land reform would pale in comparison with effective industrial policies, or reliable electricity, or small-business-friendly regulatory reform, or any number of other modern measures.
Hearing her speak for herself on their policies on Land, BEE, Borders, sustainable economic growth, grants, JOBS, the rule of law. These policies and positions just make 100% logical, economical, South African sense. I don't know why you guys are worried they're finally in power.
Very brilliant delivery, but Helen, this is Africa, and we intra African trade to enable the continent to develop. I now understand why EFF doesn't want you to come closer to governance.
Where did she say she doesn't want trade with the rest of Africa? I heard that they don't want open borders and that makes sense. One nation simply cannot carry the population of all it's neighbours
There are 2 points that are always overlooked in the question of land: 1) There was no South Africa when Europeans arrived, only small & scattered tribes that - while nomadic in lifestyle- remained confined to certain areas (Eg Khoi in the Cape, Xhosa in EC, Zulu in KZN etc) therefore a large part of the land wasn't actually owned by anyone to begin with, especially in the interior. The concept of land ownership and title deeds is a European concept. Obviously a lot of land was stolen by Europeans, but how will we prove what land was stolen? 2) Land restitution means ALL victims of land theft need justice/restitution. Therefore, how will we determine which black tribe stole what land from another black tribe? And will we then confiscate that land from the black "colonizer" to restore it to the black "claimant" 300 years later?Example: The Zulus stole massive amounts of land from the Xhosas and other tribes. It's easy to blame the "white man" for everything but if you really cared about justice and restitution you would want it to apply to everybody.
Honestly speaking, as black people we must really start thinking economically if we want to uplift ourselves. When we get the land, we need to create jobs for the community in order to decrease unemployment. This thing of wanting to own land just because it was land of your forefathers and you're not making something out of it should stop because it is not taking us anywhere.
Nonsense. This is why SA blacks keep getting shafted by their historical enemies. POSSESSION is 90% of the law!! What you do with your possession is your own business. Why are these racists even allowed a say in the matter?? Zimbabweans may have suffered, but at least restored their dignity and the land reform is bearing fruits in a big way.
@dingahaban2288 where is their dignity? The Zimbabwean ministers got the land and the rest are here working in gardens!
@@werner240 What could you possibly know of the dignity of Africans? Didn't your kind legislate and pursue a policy of visiting indignities and misery upon the native population (and everywhere else your shadows darkened)? In you world, the African is fully content with a full belly and aspires to nothing else. Well now bear witness, after your evil, unilateral and illegal economic sanctions have been removed, Zimbabwe continues to be one of the fastest growing economies in the world. What with embarrassing amounts of Lithium, gold, platinum ( and Platinum Group Metals), diamonds kicking around on the surface, rare earth minerals, oil/natural gas.............and most of all, our fertile productive ancestral lands!!
@@werner240 Once again this YOUTube cesspool removes my response to your crap. What could you possibly know of the dignity of Africans when you diliberately visited indignities upon Africans?
@@Michael-nu6fb This is my response to your other racist friend:Once again this YOUTube cesspool removes my response to your crap. What could you possibly know of the dignity of Africans when you diliberately visited indignities upon Africans?
The land was distributed to 300 000 Zimbabwean families. I can tell you we don't have such a bloated cabinet. You can read independent research on the land redistribution by Ian Scoones of the University of Sussex.
This is quite an interesting conversation. She just makes alot of sense, I can't help but agree with her.
I won't be surprised your a Christian
The ANC government is giving people yards smaller than tennis courts to build RDP houses and yet talk about land redistribution. Why not give people bigger yards so that they can expand on those RDP miniscule plots if they are so keen on land redress? The only people that benefit from land grab are ANC cadres and their families and friends.
Do you live in a fantasy land?
Absolutely correct !!!
The White Domkoppe think when people talk about land....it's only Farm Land they are talking about....it's NOT!!!!
On top of that they do not have title deeds for the houses which effectively means that the land still belongs to the government.
What kind of stupid statement is this? The DA is on the best land while the West suffers. That was a fools statement you made. GET Out along with the rest of these low minded racists.
Anc ayisebenzeli abantu abahluphekayo izisebenzela yona at some point kuyadingeka sibe honest nd face the truth if wonke lama political party athi alwela abantu abamnyama futhi ekhuluma into eyodwa yini eyenza ahlukane ? Politics is all about power and money
HZ is not a globalist at all!
She is a true and homegrown patriot , working tirelessly to further the interests of our people and beautiful country!!
HZ is DA will DA participate in WHO and UN agendas like the other MP’s.
Land is the property of the kings.
Land is not expensive because we are not selling land.
KZN dominates WC economically.
KZN is not 73% in black hands .
She is working for the globalists. It is a pity, I have a lot of respect for her.
@BelieveInMiracles888 You are being misled by vague conspiracy theories that have nothing to do with reality!
HZ is a true home grown patriot who cares deeply about our beautiful country and all of her people!!
🥱
It's getting expensive to produce food in this country. Farmers are price takers, not price makers.
Because of Western Influence. Once they are kicked out the resources can be distributed fairly amongst the REAL and TRUE BLACK Africans not these fake colonizers wannabees controlling industry through NeoColonialism.
Now we know why Durban is called "Dirtbin"... Pity they don't know how to use a dirt bin....
So many sad people in this country, why don't you relocate to London,..or sorry...you can't afford....
Yanya wena doti
Not only in Durban.
Johannesburg city.
It shows how idiotic you are...she is talking about KZN,you talking about durban
Sphukuphuku
Thanks for your professional interview ! , even if you don't agree you give the guest a chance to talk and let the viewers make up thier own mind . So many other journalists fight with their guests as if it Is a cage fight . 👏
Beautiful fertile land has been used to develop townhouses. Insane!!
There's lots of truth to that. Unfortunately sometimes reasoning and correct planning suffers through emotions.
I never use to like helen for many year when she lead DA but as i see suffer under ANC and noise and empty head in EFF over years as i have grown in my age and listen to this polititions then my mind and respect for Helen has grown very very much. I now wish she could to be the president . Very wise lady.
You say so because someone borrow you the brain to think.
Carry on thinking Land is not a source of wealthy as what she mentioned.
You will left only a shake(tshotshombeni) as an inheritance to your kids.
You beeing fooled by so called employment.
Who is this you are bringing to tell us about our Land.
I don't know why anyone wants to farm anyways its so hard and risky. If you want to see your face look in the mirror, if you want to see your arse go farming 😄
We need industry, investment and jobs just as much.
Yes KZN, Eastern Cape etc do have the land that is laying around in the hands of Government and King/chiefs.Only If people can be equipped with knowledge of using the land to produce.
40% of eastern cape is white and blacks only privatly own 6%
You dont even know what your talking about
You should know that land, like everything in life, is suitable for certain uses and not others. Farming land was taken freely from its rightful owners long ago. In many cases people were forcefully moved from their land without any consideration. The land issue cannot be wished aways by just saying that people should farm where they are, even if that land is not suitable for that.
The Whites instituted The Natives' Land Act of 1913, which "prohibited the establishment of new farming operations, sharecropping or cash rentals by blacks outside of the reserves. Now they are against land reform, claiming that black-owned land is unproductive. In 1947, the USA occupation government in Japan instituted land reform that transferred land from 8000 land owners to 3 million landless peasants; those peasants became the backbone of Japan's middle class. Land, like property, can be used as a source of capital.
A lot of typing and not a lot of intelligence
She's not against land reform, she's against the ANC's model of land reform. They run everything they touch into the ground
Japanese are prepared to work and expand, subsistence farmers are not. Real succesful Black farmers learned well from those who know how. Let Africa be a lesson to you, not mother Africa but the mother of excuses. Got no where since liberation in the 19 60's. Who is keeping you down? .Quote Dr Lumumba. "The village fools you elect as leaders".
The Japanese are legendarily known for their hard work and honesty. Nuff said. If you are not faithful with a little you will not be faithful with much. Let that be the method.
David was not prepared for this interview especially on the land issue
He looks traumatized
This guy is not listening to what she is saying - there was land restitution - and its being wasted
If you don't know what you are talking about and would rather listen to a White woman who has a hidden agenda it's your problem but, don't come and talk umsuzo .
Land restitution in this country is not even at the 25% stage .
What people did with their returned land is none of your business.
It's theirs.
Instead,ask why does this government not do as the apartheid government did and send qualified extension officers from the dept of agriculture to train and advice the land beneficiaries???
Why doesn't the Landbank give these farmers low interest farm loans like the settlers that you love soooooo much did to/for White people???
Just making up stories is not the real truth. Land restitution started before 1994, fact as our family farm was expropriated the National party. And all the surroundings farms. Payment was 1/8 of real value, legal fees resulted in debt on our side. So walked away in debt. All these farms are non functional today.
Helen knows exactly what is going on. Anc are sitting on land, much has benn claimed by high level cadres. Facts. Not you drivel.
I agree. We blacks refuse to use common sense. In Europe and US people don't fight for land because it is not easy to make it productive. Africans kill each other for land, get it, then die in poverty waiting for donors. As long as educated Africans remain fewer than the illiterate who use emotions, this African curse will keep us fighting for the next century.
@@jo-d-lo38 believe on - try keep up with people who know.
BLACK PEOPLE
The question is why does the Ngonyama trust own the tribal land in KZN and not the people. Surely the Zulu people should own the land where their house is and where their fields are. The Ngonyama trust did not own the land in the days of Senzagkhona pre Shaka. Then Shaka killed his brother to be king and conquered the tribes in what later became known as Zululand and Natal. The people in Zululand and old Transkei don't own their land now
We are happy with our land under the ngonyama trust.The king is the sole trustee,bcos we fought and our ancestors die for it.She knows they control the markets immediately we produce our foods they will block us to access the markets.White people origin came from Europe.
To prevent it from being sold to the highest bidder just like the SOE's.
Shaka was killed by his brothers not the other way around.
@@mashobane6177 Read some history. Queen Mokabaya was the first wife of Shaka's father. She was of the Nzuza clan from Mfuli and her family were potters. Ba ya Bumba ukhamba. She was also with Cetshwayo when he lost the battle of Ulundi and Mokabaya was said to be 114 years old then. She committed suicide after the battle of Ulundi. She was also Shaka's military commander for uKhahlamba and she was from the amaHlubi tribe. She was the reason Shake never waged war on the Hlubi people or conquered them. She is probably the most remarkable woman in Zulu history and should be more respected and talked about.
@@mashobane6177 Dingaan was the only I have heard about involved in Shaka's death. If there are more please tell me about them, what their names were and who were there mothers. As I understand Nandi was not even Makhoti when she bore Shaka and ends up as the 3rd wife as the old men and women taught me when I was very young.
Stalinist Russia isn't relevant today because Russia stopped being communist a long time ago. A more pertinent example would be Venezuela.
Venezuela is not a good comparison either as just with both Zimbabwe and Cuba, both have been weighed down with crushing biased sanctions. Try tieing someone's hands then ask them to clap. Don't act surprised when they fail to do so. BTW Stalin may have saved russia and quite possibly the rest of the global majority from white supremacist fascism so he was a correct man of his time.
Nationalization is working in uniter Arab emirates. Only fools will fall for your fear tactics
Learn from the past history of Russia, it's very relevant today in SA.
Russia is still ruined and wrecked today after 70 years of Communism (sanctions and Ukraine war did not cause this by the way)
Why go so far, all the way to Russia and Venezuela, when a quick glance across the Limpopo is enough. And not just geographically closer, but also a much more applicable comparison in many other ways.
Malema should check out Moscow before adopting Stalinst ideology 😅 How many black people are there. How they treat black people etc
You are a fool. Moscow is for the Russians. How many Russians are in South Africa? There's no sense in what you are saying.
How does Russia treat its own white people.....they are abused on every level, my Russian friends left Russia as it became impossiboe to live there
There are many black people in Russia and they're treated just fine
@@riccij7754Drop a link and we can see how many white people in Russia 😂
Helen Zilla is so principled, logical, unracist and sincere. I don't understand why she has so many people who dislike her!!!!
Unracist she’s definitely not !! People conveniently forget when she labelled ‘Blacks’ as monkeys. She talks about land…what about the land the whites stole from the ‘Blacks’, when they conquered South Africa!!😡😡
Those who fight evil are always hated by those who don't. That's why if you portray yourself as "a good guy" you will be less popular and be called the real villain, instead of the actual villain. That's what Helen has to deal with.
because she tells a lot of untruths. Eg colonialism killed in the millions in africa. They colonial empires make stalin look like a saint
@dogsand77 The same can be said for African Empires attacking each other, committing genocide & ethnic cleansing and selling each other into slavery. The same can also be said for the millions who have died through warring Empires in Asia, the Middle East and the Americas all throughout history. That is the nature of Empires, as that is the human condition. Anywhere you have groups of humans with overlapping interests, you will find conflict. The difference though is that Communist Empires actively seek to commit genocide. Its a core policy of any communist govt. And its always against their own countrymen (those who don't agree with them).
Furthermore, the nature of Empire is to build, improve and expand (it would be too expensive to not do this as the troops, govt officials, supplies etc to the colony need to be paid for), that is why most Empires leave behind ready-made countries that only need a good govt to take over (which, in Africa, has never happened). Whereas Communist Empires, again as a policy and required by Marx, seek to destroy or confiscate everything and make the populace 100% enslaved to the govt.
@@Augustus65 Well said and 100% true. Unfortunately there will always be people who want to be a victims and will by choice be ignorant of the greater truth.
This land was owned by the koi and San tribes,till the inguni came from the north killing their way down,there is proof of this
There's no private ownership of land in African culture...That is why the KHOI did not fight or chased Jan van Riebeek, ...till he became greedy and started killing them and raping their women....
African people moved all over the continent using land not owning it,... Private ownership of land, is a European greedy concept...
There's no history of private ownership of land in African culture. That is why the KHOI did not fight or chased Jan van Riebeek... until he became greedy and started killing and raping their women...
African nations were moving around using land for grazing, not owning it. Private ownership of land is a European concept fueled by greed....
You go find that Jan van Riebeeck
@senzomemela1311 This doesn't make any sense bruh. African tribes had literal territories and fought over land and resources too. Private ownership of land is a concept as old as time.
@@DragonReaper1998Liar. You use such cheap arguments against your house girls and boys
African kings never owned land or had power to raise taxes or tribute unlike the robber kings of Europe. People were governed by consent in Africa that is why our kings didn't have great opulence
Land without any sense - still stuck on injustice.
On point same problem with Zimbabwe farms once thriving are now jungles food production lost jobs lost
For people like Zille and others and anyone who think land claims is a simple issue. How do you unscramble an egg?
At least she has a productive stance on the matter.
Not just looting and ignoring the citizens
@pokawolf24 lol she has been looting since the day she was born into her priviledge
@@pokawolf24explain to me how it was taken then was it not looting and killing and raping
Well done Helen. Your knowledge is amazing, The stylish and sophisticated way you explain all the answers is excellent! Thank you.
Bull
I'm with you, she does not answer his question direct. Imagine somebody takes what is yours and the ones who now has say you must prove it's yours and buy it back is complete bull@@nkosimkhwanazi6223
Excellent discussion. If only it could be used in the real plundered South Africa. Looted and criminalized by who again?
The apartheid regime
She makes a lot of sense. We have to apply economics to our assets to prosper. We need to stop applying sentiments in all decision-making, history notwithstanding. Productivity under my people has been compromised. I would need Helen Zille as president.
South Africa is a system, and all elements must work together to make it work regardless of race...makes u think🤔
Singapore - strong leader worked; but very different leadership and management capabilities and foundational belief system, economic frame of reference and vision.
Very different IQ levels
Absolutely “ land is not a source of wrath, it’s expensive dirt unless you develop it” love this.
The obsession with owning land is chronically out of wack now. It neither uplifts people to a better standing or create jobs.
THANKS ELLEN FOR THE TRUTH THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING ELSE BUT THE TRUTH.. HOWEVER SINCE 1994 WHATS TRUE IS FALSE AND WHATS RIGHT HAS BECOME WRONG.. ETC.. ETC
Because that Mpondo from Eastern Cape sold out S.A, and those whites made him divorve his own wife = whites have always aimed divide blacks even more
Although I don't like or ever liked this woman but what she is saying makes real political sense.
Once a victim, always a victim. It is not about the predator, but the mentality of victimhood.
Zionist narrative
You talking rubbish ,black are victims of colonialism and apartheid and oppression it’s fact . When Jews talked about their you understand and sympathise but when it comes to black it’s victimhood such hypocrisy
Please also say that to the jews when they cry about the Nazis even now, don't only say it to the black people.
@@sandilemfeka4658 The problem with victimhood mentality is that it sticks with you even after the oppression is removed. What do you think the story of Exodus was. It was to free the Jews from slavery. God's problem was getting the victim mentality out of them
@@ianduplessis7892 Mxm, when you started quoting a fairytale (Bible ) I knew you are just typing nonesense.
What does "previously disadvantaged" mean? How far back does the "disadvantage" stretch?
As far as it up to the time oppressor come
@@UserDontiAS Oh you mean Shaka Zulu then right! Because let's at least agree life was pretty shit under him and the rest of the "kings"
You living naked and barefooted in the bush! Sans a written language, numeracy and technology of any kind.
Living from hand to mouth, one day at a time. Not knowing when you will be executed for either being accused of witchcraft or crying enough at the death of his mother.
I'm sure you get the picture.
@UserDontiAS ok but pay us for the double life expectancy, 96% of you won't exist without our systems and technology. How many have come over the last 300 years to be close to us ? If we that bad you should be moving to Zimbabwe and Mozambique not the other way around? Why do millions come here even in apartied? South African land is poor compared to Zimbabwe and Mozambique land . You better off because we here it's a fact not an opinion. Shut up and get to work you not getting anything for free , but if you can think and work you can have a dream life . Go do it and stop bitching like a little girl .
It stretched as far 1652
@@UserDontiAS So back to 1795 when the Bantu arrived????
Your knowledge of. history is limited and crooked!
The Bantu people originate from Cameroon and migrated through Congo, Zambia, Zimbabwe, Botswana
... and never settled anywhere.
The Bantu 'took' land from the KhoiSan that were in the region more than 70 000 years earlier than the Bantu.
Bantu never owned land ... they constantly migrated after grazing and rain.
Why don't you claim land in Cameroon, Congo, Zambia, Zimbabwe Botswana etc?
There was NO country called South Africa until 1910 when it was declared a 'union' by Britain.
Who is the union Britain??? From where?
Lol 😂
Do you know what South Africa was called before the colonialist cronies came .
Was is it Cameroon or Congo or Angola? Oh, it doesn´t matter, we just made it up to justify colonialism, even if the facts are contrary.
And by the way, Khoisan exist in different parts of Africa, esp. South and East (Tanzania), just like "Bantus" and yes, they are also intermixed with each other, whereby many Khoisans intergrated into the "Bantu" tribes/nations just like anywhere else in the world similarly.
While we are at it, what is your business in Africa? What ever we do with each other as africans good or bad, its´OUR business not yours Mlungu.
Or do Africans determine what Asians, Arabs, (native) Americans, Oborigines in AUS, Europeans do with their continent, land? The latter fought, steal, kill (still do see Ukraine/Russia, Balkan Wars of the nineties, Nothern Irland bombings, sessessions and detentions in Spain/Catalonya where Barcelona etc)?
It´s their continent, place, business. Period. Or should Chinese by the virtue of their growing strength take over Europe by force and say you Birith are Anglo-Saxonians from Saxony in Germany, and must leave England and Germans, you are Barbarians and must leave Germany towards Caucasia/Iran bc you are arians etc?
Europe for Europeans. Asia for Asians. Africa for AFrica. Simple.
And you come here, have the audacity to discuss on the matter of the southern tip of Africa.
If I were you, I´ll humble myself ASAP or pack and back to Europe (please not Australia, NZ, Canada, USA) to try to terrorise the natives there with the same white suprematist BS.
Update, Europeans don´t really embrace you either, even for them white South Africans are to crass, most have moved on (the Dutch King has apologized for colonialism and everything that happend under its reign when you guys (mostly poor Europeans) left for the colonies and fabricated superiority.
One more last thing, when southern Europe was colonised by the North Africans/Arabs aka Moors from 711 to 1492 the rest of Europe finally came together and fought back to take back their land from the Arab colonizers..
Europe never accepted, rightfully so, the Arabs on their land, no matter how long they ruled and what good things they brought in there (go to Andalucia, Spain and see the beautiful architecture, astronomy/math science brought by the Moors.
Europe wasn´t not impressed and eventually kicked them out. some Moors/Arabs stays under the rule of the Europeans as a minority up to this day, without political, commercial, or any power whatsoever.
They accepted their place and, as individuals, may do well or not, but they know they are Arabs not Europeans just like any communities who follow common sense.
Which leaves you with one option: humble yourself, you are at the end of the colonial road.
India, China/Asia, Middle Eeast, and Africa make 80 soon 90% of world population.
It should all be about humans and humanity, but you decided otherwise and we and the rest of the world are wising up accordingly.
I think we are done here. We should act like Britian and Europe today for those who do not want it otherwise.
@@Fishingforstarsthe shortest answer is NOTHING.
This is 100% true. There is archeological and anthropological eveidence for this.
Helen make a good president for our country
😂
Smarter than the whole of ANC cabinet
RDP owners need to get title deeds....has that been done....if you cannot look after the smalls...how you gonna manage the big?
The DA routinely hands out Title Deeds ( real ownership) to properties to poor people in places where it governs!!
@@tonitappous2422 DA again at work...great and thats a drop in the ocean compaired to how many still are outstanding right.
@weymouthesterhuizen1145 The very capable and focused blue machine ( DA) is trying to create a new class of property owners from amongst the poor so that poor people have an asset in their name (Title Deeds) that they can use or leverage to further their own personal interests and also pass on to their heirs and family when they die!
This programme has been enormously successful so far!!
@@tonitappous2422 I believe that and not doubting....so what are the rest doing when it come to politicians and how many more people need help....get me now.
@@weymouthesterhuizen1145
See - DA delivers for the poor and vulnerable, BusinessDay.
See - Impressive new school in the Western Cape, UA-cam.
Yes they want it for Free , and to do nothing
Who the Fuck are THEY ????? Do you live on the Moon??? There is only US !!! Go learn your history Domkop....many White people got land for free in 1933 during the great depression and returning soldiers from WW11 also got land for free....my own family was part of that so I know what I am talking about !!!
Dom Doos !!!
It is our land.
@@thobisanizondi7522 prove it
Yes, because it's theirs.You flyers from the slumps of Europe to Africa owns zilch not even whence you came!
@ForeverYoung-qz2if They work really hard to take the rights from other races so much for only wanting equality. All races are in the same boat but not all races want laws to take thing away because of the colour of their skin and not all races and calling for murder of other races.
So much patience and perseverance to try and undo the propaganda and ignorance spread by the ruling party.
Did you feel the same way about apartheid. The lady is not about given stolen land but.
She knows the value of the Land very well. Thus why she doesn't want with it.
There is a time to ask and there will be a time to take what belongs to us Africans.
I don't understand why we spent so much time talking about this land, whiles
@@franstlhotse5963 So what would you do with the land? Nothing.
It WILL take patience
Its jealousy..Helen for President 💎 It takes agood women to lead..👍
History is History, and you can not deny it. Ownership should be the discussion.
I disagree with that, we can't give land to people who don't have necessarily skills to use it, we will end like Zimbabwe! Ownership only shouldn't be a descusion.
The most successful land reform in SA is currently happening in the Western Cape!!
Beneficiaries are given Title Deeds ( real ownership) as well as skills transfers and ongoing support so that they will succeed!!
@@tonitappous2422 what's happening there?
@@mabhodlelajj1195 See - Western Cape scores 83% success rate in Land Reform Report, Western Cape Government.
Most blacks would prefer to live in cities. Very few are interested in farming.
I truly admire Helen honest and straight to the point
Western Cape, partly Stellenbosch is fertile.
Helen thinks she can mucro-manage us with her being evasive to the reality. Their ways if dispersing our forefathers in the arable land dhould be scaled down to Ingwenyama trust.
LAND is not a source of wealth that is a big lie .For production to happen you should have LAND,LABOUR,CAPITAL,entrepreneurship to produce
When we say we want our land back we mean that we want our land back. This guy whose interviewing is doing a great job by saying the truth but im a very good way. History proves that it was ours cause all that land was taken from our fourfathers and there's nothing that we need to prove. We not asking for the land to go to direct individuals but rather the people and when we have our land back we will then learn what to do with the land.
History proves that it was never your land and neither your forefathers. There is no historical account of that.
If that is historically accurate, then who did the colonisers need legislation against in order to steal it?
The revisionist history is tiresome.
ANC and EFF are terrified of Helen Zille.Because she is very intelligent and gets it!
Where are you guys getting this figure? Because ONLY AfriForun has this figure?
It amazes me how black SA citizens want land. Unless you hve the capital to work the land it means nothing. Even big farmers tdy ate selling their farms because it's too expensive to farm.
Legend you go girl
If you like the idea of living in a failed state, vote ANC, EFF, or MK. If you like the idea of eradicating corruption, crime, and poverty, as well as building a resilient and high-performaning economy (the best on the continent), then put your faith in a credible opposition party or independent. The MPC has enormous potential to right the ship.
The DA is just as corrupt. Only difference is, they have the media in their pocket so we never get to hear about their scandals.
My concern is that I have not heard any of the MPC parties mention anything about our individual freedom and liberty ... why does that matter? We don't want to undergo another lockdown situation and we don't want to be forced into taking medicine ad being threated with heavy fines and jail sentences. Following UN / Global agenda's is one of the reasons for the ESKOM mess.
Vote ACDP. They were very anti the lockdown & forcing of jabs & they were very vocal about it🙏
@@lornameerkat7480 OHM the organic humanity movement, UIM, HOPE4SA and FF Freedom front are with ACDP on that one. All of the above parties are aligned with ECONOMIC Freedom, FAMILY Freedom and HEALTH Freedom 💚☮️🔆
Uthetha umnqundu wenja yakho
This woman is too intelligent. We need these types of Africans as leaders.
Land but no food
Lol😅😅😅 so you want you bread buttered 🧈 on either side s ,land, food health care,electricity, etc etc you want for free,and you want to lay back and expect the taxpayers to pay for you convenient life style 😅😅.
@@karelgericke9172 yep - the guy is a "wewanter".
@@cishilezokukhwabanisa755 lol 😆 thought so.
@@cishilezokukhwabanisa755 how much money did your Ancestors pay for South African land
@@fumanifuks-bs3ey Domkop go and google.
This is sad man💔💔💔
4 basic elements of economic production;
-land
- labour
- capital
- management.
ANC government has thrown land, labour (beneficiaries) and lots of capital at land issue's, however whats lacking is sound economic & ecological fundamentals in developmental approach & dismal levels of management.
Management is the key that allocates & organizes resources towards economically, socially & environmentally beneficial outcomes.
Cadre deployment or patronage has destroyed progress.
The most successful land reform in SA is currently happening in the DA governed Western Cape!!
Beneficiaries are given Title Deeds ( real ownership) as well as mentoring, skills transfers and ongoing support so that they can succeed!
KZN got best land owned by black people. This land feeds mostly who? cows & goats?
They want to be farmers but lack the basic skills and passion
@@AwkwardLeon69420 we have full rights to Ingonyama land (Title deed from the chief in hand). Developing the land seems tough. Government needs to see “owners capital” to intervene (which is stupid but understandable) and let me not mention banks. Not all of us had great grandfathers who were Verwoerds advisors or afgri members. But we’re coming for the agricultural industry trust me 👍
DA all the way 💙💙💙💙! A party with a plan for sure 💪🏻
Omw I have so much respect for Helen ..she knows what she is talking about....you go girl...
This is Africa
Ramaphosa says he is processing Phala Phala refund.
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• 261.1 A serious violation of the section 96[2][a].
• 264.2 A serious violation of section 34[1] of PRECCA.
• 264.3 A serious misconduct in that the President violated section 96 [2][b] by acting in a
way that is inconsistent with his office.
• 264.4 A serious misconduct in that the President violated section 96[2][b] by exposing
himself to a situation involving a conflict between his official responsibilities and his private business of the Constitution.
Well balanced interview, the interviewer gives the guest to speak, I just watched Cartblanche and the colourded guy was very angry at Hellen Zille for no reason missing the chance to conduct a well balanced interview.
Even if the land in the WC is not good, its still the people's land. Hellen must focus on giving it back.
So the owners of land should buy land available in the market...?
Did the white buy when they came to S.A
Actually they did
Don't lie. @@pokawolf24
The most successful land reform in SA is currently happening in the DA governed Western Cape.
Beneficiaries are given Title Deeds ( real ownership) even though the land was paid for by the Western Cape Government!!
@pokawolf24 you are not well upstairs 😒
@tonitappous2422 the same DA that only cares about white areas and does not two shits about areas where black and colored people live. They only know those places when we have to vote
I'm Kenyan but this is not the discourse we see online. They don't say that about land ownership. If people in KZN and EC cant manage good land, how can they manage marginal lands in Western cape?
You are not a Kenyan, a Kenyan wouldn’t say that as they want their land back from the British!
@@AT-gu8by I am (google my second name) but our situation was different. The lands West of the Fox river were not occupied when they arrived unlike in our case where they displaced us. Plus, you have made us believe that you are landless but the stats she shared say otherwise. I think you have just subdivided your land more than them over the years.
Let's start with giving back the land to the rightful owners then discuss productivity and a way forward for ALL SAs to benefit....
MK & EFF.... I'm confident we will accomplish that mission 😊
"what if I want a tennis court"
That sums up the point of view of these kooks.
Ms. Zille makes such a compelling argument.
Right over his head
Helen you are so right! What are they doing with the land owned by the zulu kingdom?
Not your business and still not your land
Then shuddup about taking land from whites if your people don't want to waste land on you either..
Where are you guys getting this figure? Because ONLY AfriForun has this figure?
@@user-le7xs5mq4ySouth Africa is our land so it is our business
The EFF is getting weaker and weaker - the people had enough of corruption and empty promises.
How can you blame Eff for that? They not a ruling party,they not government
@@Thatsong-fr9nq what about the Ratanang Trust ? What about the
R 52 000 000 tender by On-point engineering? what about VBS?
@@positiveimagingcompany4515 you should be question the ruling party why those responsible are not being jailed.
The apartheid system benefited white people who to this day, still enjoy that privilege.
Apartheid/white supremacy was a crime against humanity, say what you want about corruption, the corruption you have heard since 1994 is not even a percentage of whites took from the people of this country.
This woman is very smart
😂😂😂 she says what you want to hear !!
@@livebyhope She was voted the best Mayor in the World in 2008! She really knows her stuff!!
If we could just unite as the Rainbow Nation, South Africa could reach great heights with success and prosperity for all!!
Do you mow that four out of every five new jobs in SA over the past five years were created in the DA governed Western Cape??
See - DA delivers for the poor and vulnerable, BusinessDay.
See - Impressive new school in the Western Cape, UA-cam.
You are claiming so
According to government's own census in the 3 most fertile provinces of SA nearly 70% of land is in black hands. In the other 6 provinces 50% of land is in black hands. So according to government, the majority of SA's land is in black hands.
Fertile land is good for breeding.
Land ask the government.
Nangu umuntu engimthatha serious ke . Hayi lezinyoni ezinye.
She's smart ,bro.
Hawu clever black😂😂😂yini laba enidayisa ngathi
@@henda1538 ok Domkop
@henda1538 how much are you worth mara. 😂😂😂 Black's nine drama, senima product these days.
Blacks for sale 😂😂😂
Hate her all you want but South africa needed this woman as president for just 10years . Im black and i endorse her
I'm with you ,problem yethu we're in denial.
aS sAD AS IT IS , SHE IS RIGHT
Where are you guys getting this figure? Because ONLY AfriForun has this figure?
Koisan poepil first
Its hard for them too understanding ne
I think its an absolute disgrace that south african children go to bed hungry at night (and during the day) when there is so much fertile land avalaible that could produce the food needed. Outside Mbombela there was a sucessful land claim put in and was subsequently subdivided and sold it off for housing - and yet this is some of the most fertile land in the country.
Where are you guys getting this figure? Because ONLY AfriForun has this figure?
It's funny how she's so worried about what we gonna do with our own land 🤣🤣 like ,ungenaphi ??
She should be worried. Like Zimbabwe. They chases out the farmers, now they do not have enough food or jobs. We don't want you to starve. There is no other country where our homeless can go for work.
@Deontjie nah u found us here in this continent living and surviving all by ourselves for centuries.. it's not like life in Africa started when colonizers arrived
@@amangileqwabaza5703 We moved down from Europe, you moved down from central Africa. Zimbabweans are now moving down from Zimbabwe. Does that make Zimbabweans South Africans?
@Deontjie no one moved from anywhere we were here in Africa , bones of people r found all over southern Africa and those bones r skeletons of African people who used to live here. How do u know if we nwver moved from South to Central Africa before we moved back to South??
@@amangileqwabaza5703 Then you say Egyptians are also Africans? And Zimbabweans and Nigerians can vote in South Africa. And you can vote in Algeria. Africa is a divided country. Most scientist agree that the Sterkfontein caves are the cradle of humankind. And that all people originates from there. Even white people. But you don't agree, seeing that you have never heard of Sterkfontein or science.
Dankie Helin God het jou gestuur om die onigeligte mense opvoeding te gee . Jy is n engel
Exactly i agree with the grant its an insult and the president placing age restriction on jobs what must peole do in their 40s thats unemployed and 50 these are people with qualifications and skills and experience but can't get jobs because they cater only to a certain age category so what must the middle age unemployed people do than they must also get a decent grant like pensioners and people with disabilities even though they can work but can't get jobs due to their age
Very brilliant lady....
Mrs Zille speaks the truth but most people don’t want to hear or listen to the truth.
She speaks with a clear mind.
Give the land to the rightful owners. Namely , the Khoi and San.
That would be 10s of millions of South Africans.
*Natives are under no obligation to be culturally static or labels in a book.*
"khoisan" is a 20th century sloppy ahistoric abstraction.
San refers to foragers or hunters or for ancestral pygmies millennia ago.
Khoi was a Euro broad generic reference to *Cape pastoralists.*
A way of life reference.
The native South African has blended pygmy and proto-agrarians (proto-Bantu) millennia ago.
This blend is who Europeans found, so talking about migration hypotheses of the ancestors is of no relevance.
The pastoralists (khoi/khwe) they found in the Cape were a blend of pygmy & ancient proto-agrarian.
That's literally what a native South African is *today* with millennia of heritage.
(Usually found banded together under a handful of HOUSES that became umbrellas in colonial times like the then minor ascendant Xhosa house.)
*Again, Natives are under no obligation to be culturally static or labels in a book.*
*That's not how human generational offspring or lineage works.*
Yes everyone in south Africa Zulu, Xhosa, tswana, suthu ndebele have khoisan blood
Easy to solve nowadays by testing people's genes. Those with 80%+ Khoi genes are officially khoi, the rest are loud-mouthed coloureds..
Yes give them Cape Town
@@sosobiyela4791 aka!
The guest could have SA economically strong within a generation but ANC and govt policy burdens the process and created the problems that people of good will are trying to solve.
May God bless SA w peace and prosperity.
It is a bitter truth what Hellen is saying. Because I have seen in my area that the land was previously used to farm and grow food is now being used to build event hosting venues and shebeens. I think our traditional leaders and communities should be sensitize on the dangers of selling and turning more fertile land into non-farming activities
Now it is time to think about how SA can take farming seriously.
Great politician. Well said Helen
Sorry HZ, people cant simply do what they want on private land, ask anyone who wants to change land use on their land about EIA processes, SOLUM, heritage issues etc.
Following the end of apartheid in 1994. 9.7 percent of white commercial farmland has been transferred to black people.
White South Africans, 9% currently own 73 percent of the commercial agricultural land. While black people own more than 50% of agricultural land in just 2 of the country’s 9 provinces.
Well, those people like farming and they do it fairly well. Its no use having land and then end up not being a farmer because you don't know how to farm and don't like farming.
The land issue is a legitimate historical cause of disempowerment and resentment. However, redistribution of agricultural land could not create wealth and jobs on any useful scale now.
Back when whites grabbed the land in past centuries , farming was the biggest part of the economy, here and everywhere. But times have changed.
Agriculture is no longer a significant share of the economy -- in SA in 2024, farming accounts for only 2.4% of GDP. Any benefits of land reform would pale in comparison with effective industrial policies, or reliable electricity, or small-business-friendly regulatory reform, or any number of other modern measures.
Hearing her speak for herself on their policies on Land, BEE, Borders, sustainable economic growth, grants, JOBS, the rule of law.
These policies and positions just make 100% logical, economical, South African sense. I don't know why you guys are worried they're finally in power.
Brilliant
Zebediela tragic example.
It is time to give them statistics Helen.
Very brilliant delivery, but Helen, this is Africa, and we intra African trade to enable the continent to develop. I now understand why EFF doesn't want you to come closer to governance.
Where did she say she doesn't want trade with the rest of Africa? I heard that they don't want open borders and that makes sense. One nation simply cannot carry the population of all it's neighbours
There are 2 points that are always overlooked in the question of land:
1) There was no South Africa when Europeans arrived, only small & scattered tribes that - while nomadic in lifestyle- remained confined to certain areas (Eg Khoi in the Cape, Xhosa in EC, Zulu in KZN etc) therefore a large part of the land wasn't actually owned by anyone to begin with, especially in the interior. The concept of land ownership and title deeds is a European concept. Obviously a lot of land was stolen by Europeans, but how will we prove what land was stolen?
2) Land restitution means ALL victims of land theft need justice/restitution. Therefore, how will we determine which black tribe stole what land from another black tribe? And will we then confiscate that land from the black "colonizer" to restore it to the black "claimant" 300 years later?Example: The Zulus stole massive amounts of land from the Xhosas and other tribes.
It's easy to blame the "white man" for everything but if you really cared about justice and restitution you would want it to apply to everybody.
Hands down she should be president….but she is not black😅
Unfortunately race not the problem but they are.
Same thing that Thabo Mbeki said about land issue that truly make sense when it comes land redistution
if u can cultivate by all means take the land but if can't get work the why do want the land
They like to use land as a collateral to buy big cars etc..
45% of my salary to the government for the past 7 years...if it were not for the SA government, I'd actually live a comfortable life
Politics is interesting and real now in south Africa
6:54 Zebediela is a painful case. It decimated the entire community.
twice as well
Biggest citrus farm in the southern hemisphere handed to blacks on a plate. Trashed by black mismanagement, now bankrupt.
What else is new?
You are wrong about western cape it neve belonged to blacks
Actually its more like 90 percent if you want to tell the real truth 😭💯💯👌👌👌👌
We need change 😢, we are still remain conquered nation
What about Northern Cape especially the Kalahari