I just want to say: Your channel does not get the views it deserves. You are by far one of the most interesting voices on UA-cam today. Cheers from one young farmer to another
Wow, ok, "trad LARP" really is an amazingly-fitting way to describe way too many 'farmers' on here. And elsewhere, to be fair. Upvoted your comment for that excellent description!
I can't quite figure out what is the secret ingredient, but your videos became my favorite thing on UA-cam these days. Thank you and best of luck in your future endeavors! 😉
The National Archive holds the farm survey for England and Wales. The Scottish records are apparently held by The National Records of Scotland, though nothing shows up on their website.
I always thought a major benefit of being a farmer is not having someone come around to grade your job performance. I probably wouldn’t have scored well
Fascinating. Had heard about the survey but good to see the details. Will be great to see what was said about my grandfather's farm. I know the WARAG were not popular and were seen as a bunch of nosey parkers and failed farmers. Not all the country, especially in the west, was enclosed under the Enclosure Acts.
I heard that during the WW2, if a farmer or land owner was thought not to be utilising his land properly, then a farm manager would be appointed to run the farm. So I was able to find this. _The land must be farmed, not starved. If a landlord cannot or will not provide proper facilities for his tenant farmers, the State should take over his land at a fair valuation_ From: Pg 163 The front line of freedom British farming in the second world war. The Agricultural History Review Supplement Series 4 British agricultural history society. The similar policy was used when a business was found to have a machine(s) that it could be aiding the war effort but were left idle. The Government would simply take them away.
Here in central Waterford, Ireland our land was divided rather well. With my father showing me the original land divides from the time on old paper maps. But funnily enough in Kilkenny we know of an area where land was divided all very segmented, with single or a few fields separated from others all as a patchwork. And from local farmers ive talked to said it was because when it was divided out the landlord wanted his peasants/tenants to meet rach other more often and have more local interactions. This being a very nice thought, but in practice it has led to a lot disagreements and arguments as well as very in efficient practices. Good intentions with bad results.
The aircraft is quite apt, it is The Battle of Britain Memorial Flight's Avro Lancaster one of the main heavy bombers of Bomber Command, only two remain airworthy and flying, this one "City of Lincoln" based at RAF Coningsby and one in Canada known as VERA... I could go on but won't...
Oh man, I really want to look up these details. But, I imagine its the national archives, and they tend to right profiteers at times... *grumble grumble*... I suppose I'm asking if you had to pay for the records for your farm/area, and if so how much?
I think its free! You can look up the village youre interested in on the online catalogue (maps and sueveys are seperate) and reserve the documents for a certain day and then visit the archives in Kew - they'll give you a readers card and I don't think it costs a penny. The trains can be expensive though!
@@farmingexplained Ah, interesting, I'd love to check that out. that said, it would be at least a 7 hour round trip, and at least £100. But I reeeally want to know what it say :')
It'll be digitised within the next couple of years so if you're happy to wait you'll just be able to look it up online. Do tell us what you find if you remember!
Germany does that a lot wherethere is inefficient land owner/rentership. The communes essentially get paid by the state to get tveir land in an efficient order. They just remove all hedges and ditches and anything in the way of efficient farming except protected by environmental laws and the completely redraw the lines more efficiently redig the ditches, replant the hedges and set up new better roads to the fields. Yes, soneone will pullthe shortest straw but they get compensated and everyone makes net profit in the end everywhere its done.
Indeed it had, if done right ofc. So not the russian way ofc, but here in croatia, in former yugoslavia, it actually worked perfectly, it wasn't the "state" farms first like in the ussr, but wirkers owned, basically the government owned land functioned like those hige farms in texas or australia, industrial scale, but it was supported by the state with knowledge, they employed agricultural engineers of different specialisations, from mechanisation, crops, cattle growth, orchards and winery, fertilisation, protection etc, and tons of proffesional plaughers, harvesyer drivers, veterinarians etc. They extracted from the land at least three times more than the pre war primitive production, but again it was well concieved and planned, they almost exclusively used huge green john deere tractors, fleets of them for every such company, almost all mechanisation and methods were western ofc, we were socialist but free and open country. And ofc they then sold their crops to state/county/city enterprises under market conditions. And ofc the peasants had their land and their fields and cattle, they hugely benefited from that development and sistematic approach, and had the buy off for their harvests and their milk, fduits etc guaranteed at same conditions. Only difference was that those public agricultural companies had huge green john deeres, and peasants on their land had normal size red massey fergusons and later licence built red imt's basically a copy and development on popular ferguson models. So yeah not all the land was private or state/public owned, more like 50-50 and it worked quite well in fact, educated people were in charge, and they worked for their own benefit, not for some beuraeucratic quotas, it was socialism with market economy and private ownership was absolutely normal, only thing not allowed or not incorporated was financial speculation, no stocks and such things, only real assets, your company earns more than it needs for wages for their workers/owners, ok then build apartments for them, or invest in new production, or build resorts for your workers on the coast, whatever you want, the owners, so the workers themselves of each company decided on that, not the state, just don't funnel the money for the rich few, let all reap the benefits of their labour, so yeah, although it had some shortcommings, mostly due to ultimate human corruptiveness, it was actually pretty solid for that time and place, and yeah the agriculture was in fact one of the shiny examples where it worked excellent and propping up the peasants/farmers on their privste lands who all benefited from the system, you were a peasant, the state would give you a loan for your private british tractor to be able to produce. So yeah, generalisations are dumb, every single time, thinking something is inherently bad just because it didn't work in a country that shifted from basically serfdom to communism in days is just, dunno, dumb for lack of a better word right now.
In 1929 Mongolia the USSR got the Mongolian People's Party to do mass collectivization which lead to a famine and a major rebellion including members of the party. This caused the Soviets and MPP to back pedal and completely redesign what collectivization meant until I got a system that worked and allowed for a choice of personal livestock etc with high taxes or collectives though wages were low except for rare positions in farming collectives. (This would later lead to mass migration to cities furing the 60s as people soight decent paying jobs until the party banned immigration to the capital for most people) With the MPP shifting blame and painting the rebellion as being religious while the Soviets shifted blame to the MPP for "trying to achieve Socialism and Communism too quickly". This also caused its sister party in uvur or Inner Mongolia to ditch rhetoric around collectivization.
I love when bureaucrats come up with “solutions” telling farmers how to be more productive. Especially when the solutions always end up the same - the government owns everything, you own nothing. Brilliant!
Strange comment to make on this video where that’s exactly what did not happen. It mostly shows the system of grading and what the 1941 wartime government thought was important to achieve wartime food aims, before finishing up with examples of advice from the agriculture ministry that improved output on private farms.
I just want to say: Your channel does not get the views it deserves. You are by far one of the most interesting voices on UA-cam today.
Cheers from one young farmer to another
the maximised ads are too intrusive
Also its nice to see new farming youtubers with actual rooted connections to the land in my recommend feed and not suburban homesteading trad LARP
Wow, ok, "trad LARP" really is an amazingly-fitting way to describe way too many 'farmers' on here. And elsewhere, to be fair. Upvoted your comment for that excellent description!
Nice Map Men theme song reference there!
Brilliant video once again! Would love to see a video on the history of mechanisation of farms, tractors/combines etc.
All Id say is the Fordson Dexta is the best tractor ever made.
I agree!.. 🎶 *Cuz I got a brand new combine harvester, An' I'll give you the key, Come on now let's get together, In perfect harmony*
I can't quite figure out what is the secret ingredient, but your videos became my favorite thing on UA-cam these days. Thank you and best of luck in your future endeavors! 😉
The National Archive holds the farm survey for England and Wales.
The Scottish records are apparently held by The National Records of Scotland, though nothing shows up on their website.
I always thought a major benefit of being a farmer is not having someone come around to grade your job performance. I probably wouldn’t have scored well
@@25-06yes, I would think so
Great videos . I love war history and from a farming background and its great to see farming during the war . Carry on the great work !
Well done sir. Great episode😊
Fascinating. Had heard about the survey but good to see the details. Will be great to see what was said about my grandfather's farm. I know the WARAG were not popular and were seen as a bunch of nosey parkers and failed farmers.
Not all the country, especially in the west, was enclosed under the Enclosure Acts.
Another great video , thanks.
Is the title meant to be Domesday? Not Doomsday?
I heard that during the WW2, if a farmer or land owner was thought not to be utilising his land properly, then a farm manager would be appointed to run the farm. So I was able to find this.
_The land must be farmed, not starved. If a landlord cannot or will not provide proper facilities for his tenant farmers, the State should take over his land at a fair valuation_
From: Pg 163 The front line of freedom British farming in the second world war. The Agricultural History Review Supplement Series 4 British agricultural history society.
The similar policy was used when a business was found to have a machine(s) that it could be aiding the war effort but were left idle. The Government would simply take them away.
Fascinating, thank you.
Fascinating, thank you.
Here in central Waterford, Ireland our land was divided rather well. With my father showing me the original land divides from the time on old paper maps.
But funnily enough in Kilkenny we know of an area where land was divided all very segmented, with single or a few fields separated from others all as a patchwork. And from local farmers ive talked to said it was because when it was divided out the landlord wanted his peasants/tenants to meet rach other more often and have more local interactions. This being a very nice thought, but in practice it has led to a lot disagreements and arguments as well as very in efficient practices.
Good intentions with bad results.
The aircraft is quite apt, it is The Battle of Britain Memorial Flight's Avro Lancaster one of the main heavy bombers of Bomber Command, only two remain airworthy and flying, this one "City of Lincoln" based at RAF Coningsby and one in Canada known as VERA... I could go on but won't...
amazing video once again, A discord server for talks like this would be awesome
🎶 *Cuz I got a brand new combine harvester, An' I'll give you the key, Come on now let's get together, In perfect harmony* 🎶
You make farming and land ownership intetesting.
Nice cut G
Oh man, I really want to look up these details. But, I imagine its the national archives, and they tend to right profiteers at times... *grumble grumble*... I suppose I'm asking if you had to pay for the records for your farm/area, and if so how much?
I think its free! You can look up the village youre interested in on the online catalogue (maps and sueveys are seperate) and reserve the documents for a certain day and then visit the archives in Kew - they'll give you a readers card and I don't think it costs a penny. The trains can be expensive though!
@@farmingexplained Ah, interesting, I'd love to check that out. that said, it would be at least a 7 hour round trip, and at least £100. But I reeeally want to know what it say :')
It'll be digitised within the next couple of years so if you're happy to wait you'll just be able to look it up online. Do tell us what you find if you remember!
Fantastic video very interesting to see the actual forms the ministry used when doing the farm inspections keep up the good work 👍
Are these maps on UA-cam please?
Ju
Germany does that a lot wherethere is inefficient land owner/rentership. The communes essentially get paid by the state to get tveir land in an efficient order. They just remove all hedges and ditches and anything in the way of efficient farming except protected by environmental laws and the completely redraw the lines more efficiently redig the ditches, replant the hedges and set up new better roads to the fields. Yes, soneone will pullthe shortest straw but they get compensated and everyone makes net profit in the end everywhere its done.
You were lucky , the plane is the four engine Lancaster Bomber of i believe the Battle of Britain Flight
Nationalize the farms ?
I hope they a Five Year Plan ……..
Yes collectivization has improved production whenever tried !
Indeed it had, if done right ofc.
So not the russian way ofc, but here in croatia, in former yugoslavia, it actually worked perfectly, it wasn't the "state" farms first like in the ussr, but wirkers owned, basically the government owned land functioned like those hige farms in texas or australia, industrial scale, but it was supported by the state with knowledge, they employed agricultural engineers of different specialisations, from mechanisation, crops, cattle growth, orchards and winery, fertilisation, protection etc, and tons of proffesional plaughers, harvesyer drivers, veterinarians etc.
They extracted from the land at least three times more than the pre war primitive production, but again it was well concieved and planned, they almost exclusively used huge green john deere tractors, fleets of them for every such company, almost all mechanisation and methods were western ofc, we were socialist but free and open country.
And ofc they then sold their crops to state/county/city enterprises under market conditions.
And ofc the peasants had their land and their fields and cattle, they hugely benefited from that development and sistematic approach, and had the buy off for their harvests and their milk, fduits etc guaranteed at same conditions.
Only difference was that those public agricultural companies had huge green john deeres, and peasants on their land had normal size red massey fergusons and later licence built red imt's basically a copy and development on popular ferguson models.
So yeah not all the land was private or state/public owned, more like 50-50 and it worked quite well in fact, educated people were in charge, and they worked for their own benefit, not for some beuraeucratic quotas, it was socialism with market economy and private ownership was absolutely normal, only thing not allowed or not incorporated was financial speculation, no stocks and such things, only real assets, your company earns more than it needs for wages for their workers/owners, ok then build apartments for them, or invest in new production, or build resorts for your workers on the coast, whatever you want, the owners, so the workers themselves of each company decided on that, not the state, just don't funnel the money for the rich few, let all reap the benefits of their labour, so yeah, although it had some shortcommings, mostly due to ultimate human corruptiveness, it was actually pretty solid for that time and place, and yeah the agriculture was in fact one of the shiny examples where it worked excellent and propping up the peasants/farmers on their privste lands who all benefited from the system, you were a peasant, the state would give you a loan for your private british tractor to be able to produce.
So yeah, generalisations are dumb, every single time, thinking something is inherently bad just because it didn't work in a country that shifted from basically serfdom to communism in days is just, dunno, dumb for lack of a better word right now.
Fantastic little history essay, thanks.
In 1929 Mongolia the USSR got the Mongolian People's Party to do mass collectivization which lead to a famine and a major rebellion including members of the party.
This caused the Soviets and MPP to back pedal and completely redesign what collectivization meant until I got a system that worked and allowed for a choice of personal livestock etc with high taxes or collectives though wages were low except for rare positions in farming collectives. (This would later lead to mass migration to cities furing the 60s as people soight decent paying jobs until the party banned immigration to the capital for most people)
With the MPP shifting blame and painting the rebellion as being religious while the Soviets shifted blame to the MPP for "trying to achieve Socialism and Communism too quickly". This also caused its sister party in uvur or Inner Mongolia to ditch rhetoric around collectivization.
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I love when bureaucrats come up with “solutions” telling farmers how to be more productive. Especially when the solutions always end up the same - the government owns everything, you own nothing. Brilliant!
Strange comment to make on this video where that’s exactly what did not happen.
It mostly shows the system of grading and what the 1941 wartime government thought was important to achieve wartime food aims, before finishing up with examples of advice from the agriculture ministry that improved output on private farms.