In my utmost humble opinion. Mr Valtellini is correct, and I truly appreciate that he points out that this only the beginning of the fundamental strategies that come in to play to be able to keep the fight where you need it to be. As an predominantly striking based athlete/ mma practitioner myself, what many strikers often neglect is how fast/ powerful the initial takedowns come, if one has never experienced the explosiveness of an somewhat “ Decent” wrestler( And many of them have that” You can punch me, I don’t care, I’ll still take you down an smash your face in” grind intent/ mindset)It is a completely different world entirely, and safe to say you are still going for a ride, and worse, they’ll pin you down and you can’t do nothing about it, and that’s a terrifying sensation indeed. For me it was truly an eye opening experience to put it lightly. For any striker/MMA practitioner/Martial -Artist/Athlete, I feel It’s mandatory to acquire an certain percentage-wise skill-set that revolves around learning basic/ grappling fundamentals( I am not saying that you have to become the next John Danaher or Gordon Ryan) but at least acquire the skill specific attributes needed to keep the fight where you need/ want it to be. So what has been beneficial for me over the years, is the ability to scramble, frame/ post/ recognizing positions as well as set ups that usually come from tie ups, as wrestling/ grappling is so much more than just singles/ doubles, and depending on the expertise of your opponent/ attacker i have to say that comprehending the ( minimum requirement) of an blue belt in BJJ, as well as the highest percentage techniques/submissions/ standing sweeps in wrestling/ judo/ tie ups etc/ as to be able to actually utilize your own clinch in an offensive/ defensive, effective and capable way. Always an honor to be able to observe and learn from such an peer as yourself mr Valtellini. Sincere Regards. Fellow Martial Artist. Tom Framnes. Norway.
Main takeaways: intelligent feints, evading by switching stances backwards and laterally, occupying space, pressuring back by hand fighting, and open clinching
An old student getting ready for his MMA fight just sent me a message today. He asked me about takedown defense. This is literally what I told him almost verbatim, except for the Thai clinch. I recommend an unederhook and a collar tie
If they are a better grappler than you, then you could be walking into a submission. They know that and they're probably not going to give much of a reaction.
I think it would be great if you did a sparring session with an grappler. You using only striking, him only grappling, be it pure Bjj, wrestling, judo or a combination.
One of the best strikers vs wrestler matchups is Jon jones vs DC Jones wrestled in college and he’s technically a grappler base but there’s a big difference between college and Olympics and he chooses to strike and wins that way very very often. And he initially took dc down first beat him at his own game showed dc he can grapple with if not out grapple him and that set the tone.
Just curious, and i guess it depends on experience level of wrestler...thai clinch always felt very effective to frame for a knee, put pressure on neck, feel resistance and sweep or pull legs/hips back out and then drag into guillotine...it's somewhat messy but has worked in the past...just the ramblings from a casual bum who likes combat sports...
I like your videos... but this one I'm not totally agree ... There's always somehow to take someone down... The best the defence against wrestler is wrestling .
Too much thinking. Just learn grappling, so you know how to defend. All grapplers learn striking because if they dont know how to striking, they get KO'ed on first second. 80% striking and 20% grappling always beats 80% grappling 20% striking.
In my utmost humble opinion.
Mr Valtellini is correct, and I truly appreciate that he points out that this only the beginning of the fundamental strategies that come in to play to be able to keep the fight where you need it to be.
As an predominantly striking based athlete/ mma practitioner myself, what many strikers often neglect is how fast/ powerful the initial takedowns come, if one has never experienced the explosiveness of an somewhat “ Decent” wrestler( And many of them have that” You can punch me, I don’t care, I’ll still take you down an smash your face in” grind intent/ mindset)It is a completely different world entirely, and safe to say you are still going for a ride, and worse, they’ll pin you down and you can’t do nothing about it, and that’s a terrifying sensation indeed. For me it was truly an eye opening experience to put it lightly.
For any striker/MMA practitioner/Martial -Artist/Athlete, I feel It’s mandatory to acquire an certain percentage-wise skill-set that revolves around learning basic/ grappling fundamentals( I am not saying that you have to become the next John Danaher or Gordon Ryan) but at least acquire the skill specific attributes needed to keep the fight where you need/ want it to be.
So what has been beneficial for me over the years, is the ability to scramble, frame/ post/ recognizing positions as well as set ups that usually come from tie ups, as wrestling/ grappling is so much more than just singles/ doubles, and depending on the expertise of your opponent/ attacker i have to say that comprehending the ( minimum requirement) of an blue belt in BJJ, as well as the highest percentage techniques/submissions/ standing sweeps in wrestling/ judo/ tie ups etc/ as to be able to actually utilize your own clinch in an offensive/ defensive, effective and capable way.
Always an honor to be able to observe and learn from such an peer as yourself mr Valtellini.
Sincere Regards.
Fellow Martial Artist.
Tom Framnes.
Norway.
Totally agree with you
Main takeaways: intelligent feints, evading by switching stances backwards and laterally, occupying space, pressuring back by hand fighting, and open clinching
An old student getting ready for his MMA fight just sent me a message today. He asked me about takedown defense. This is literally what I told him almost verbatim, except for the Thai clinch. I recommend an unederhook and a collar tie
Yeah I saw a ex thai champ who went to mma who said he only likes to knee if he has at least one underhook or overhook
Hey Joe, great video. Could you do more wrestling videos in the future too? Really enjoyed this one.
NO go away! ❤️
Thank God Joe for releasing these, we need high level striker to give us tips how to deal with wrestlers in mma
Wish UFC did more striker vs striker matchups. Striker vs wrestler gets really boring in my opinion, as wrestlers some how dominate nearly every time.
Some of the best strikers are wrestlers... ;)
"Some how"
@@putonghualandolin8110 They only seem better because their opponents are thinking about the takedown.
@@Ramin2340 :) Talking about John Jones and his opponents ?! ;)
They do Striker vs Striker and avoid the grappling match ups literally all the time lol
as a striker, i am very glad youre bias haha thank you g
I’d like to add feinting your own takedown shot to set up your own level changes and land knees/uppercuts when they sprawl
If they are a better grappler than you, then you could be walking into a submission. They know that and they're probably not going to give much of a reaction.
I think it would be great if you did a sparring session with an grappler.
You using only striking, him only grappling, be it pure Bjj, wrestling, judo or a combination.
Badass Hayabusa promo you guys cut recently
THANKS COACH🔥🔥🔥
Jiri used a good few of these against glover. A clumsy LHW version but the concepts were there.
Awesome video🤜🏽🤛🏽
Good information
Great tips. Thank you.
Oh this is gold 👌
One of the best strikers vs wrestler matchups is Jon jones vs DC Jones wrestled in college and he’s technically a grappler base but there’s a big difference between college and Olympics and he chooses to strike and wins that way very very often. And he initially took dc down first beat him at his own game showed dc he can grapple with if not out grapple him and that set the tone.
Bazooka must be reading my mind, just trying to figure out some drills to work these concepts
The best way to not get taken down is to become a better wrestler
In other words....he's explaining Adesanya style
Key takeaway - thai clinch isn’t very effective against someone who is good wrestler/grappler
Wrestlers also have the meanest overhand rights too. Gotta avoid those as well.
Just curious, and i guess it depends on experience level of wrestler...thai clinch always felt very effective to frame for a knee, put pressure on neck, feel resistance and sweep or pull legs/hips back out and then drag into guillotine...it's somewhat messy but has worked in the past...just the ramblings from a casual bum who likes combat sports...
Khabib react : I'll try 100 times 😂
I like your videos... but this one I'm not totally agree ...
There's always somehow to take someone down...
The best the defence against wrestler is wrestling .
All tips are ok, but when khabib is not your oponent 😂
You need a great cardio for this.
Can't be taken down if you're the one taking them down!
You're taking yourself down in the process. ;)
Russian subtitre go
Too much thinking. Just learn grappling, so you know how to defend. All grapplers learn striking because if they dont know how to striking, they get KO'ed on first second. 80% striking and 20% grappling always beats 80% grappling 20% striking.
Yes I love strike martial arts,, hate wrestling because this is only success in COMBET sports.,