Hi Paul. I have lived in Sydney all my life and I was glued to this video like a newcomer because you made it so entertaining and educational. Thanks Paul for this excellent presentation.
I love the v Sets the most, even if they are the oldest they have the comfiest seats and they are the only train I have ridden ever, brings back good memories, best known in the blue mountains line :D
Great to see the new stock Paul. I lived in Sydney from 1986 to 2000 and remember my first hair-raising trip over the harbour bridge to a new job, on a red rattler with doors open in the peak.....how times have changed.
I left Sydney more than 10 years ago - great to see this summary, reminds me of my old commute and how much it will have improved with the newer trains, especially since I think everything is air-conditioned now! Thank you, great video.
Hi James, a lot has changed since you left, The series 1 Waratah's replaced the majority of the non airconditioned S Sets. It took another order of Waratahs (the series 2 ones), to replace all the S Sets. So all trains are air conditioned and all the buses are too now. Glad you enjoyed this video.
@@TransportVlog Hi Paul, re a/c buses...maybe the Government ones are all a/c but we still have some "fridges" (over air cond) and "ovens" (non a/c with fixed closed windows) out here in the west courtesy of Busways. Not to mention while now running new electric buses, they still have some antique STEPS buses which I and my walker hate!
Insiders tip - Tangara Trains' passenger doors were replaced by Millennium doors a few years back; to give the trains a longer life. The old T-Set passenger doors were notoriously unreliable....cheers from a retired Train Guard.
Really good Paul! Just wanted to point out that the C sets ran all day but some K sets were brought out for peak hour. Run 27 and run 6 were C set runs until their retirement.
Amazing Amazing Amazing thank you! I’m based at Flemo, our presentation teams look after V sets during days and all other set types during nights. It’s greatly appreciated that you took time to make this amazing video! Well done! Love it 🥰
Hi Paul, my two-year-old is absolutely obsessed with trains and just loves this video, we’ve watched it at least 10 times now. He recognises all the different types of trains when we’re down at the station. And I’ve learnt A LOT too! I know toddlers probably weren’t your target audience 😅 but thanks heaps 😊
Glad your two year old enjoys this video so much! Its over 2 years old now (so might have been filmed before he was born), but the train types haven't changed in that time (except for the withdrawal of the C sets). It's still one of my most popular videos, and I do plan to do similar train types videos for Melbourne and Brisbane in the future. Glad you've learnt lots from it too!
Thank you for this very calming and informative video! I've always been very interested in the different trains and train lines in NSW and your video scratched every single itch I've had over the last few years. I live on the T4 line and I'm so happy to hear we'll getting some new trains on the line soon! Especially after discovering all the Tangara trains are older than me haha. Thanks again ^-^
HI Lauren, glad you enjoyed this video! Yes I believe a power upgrade is planned for the T4 line and that should allow Waratah's and other 4 Gen trains in larger numbers. LOL! I'm quite a few years older than the Tangara Trains and the K Sets too!
I might add that the 70s and 80s trains seem old now, but back in the 80s we had some real old timers, like the DEB trains (1940s) that went between Wollongong and Port Kembla, which I rode on in '88. Other old trains were the unheated "Fish & Chips" that ran between Sydney and Newcastle (1950s). I almost froze in winter '88 on a Fish & Chips between Newcastle and Sydney at night. Remember those old trains had about a hundred open windows!
Hi Andy, wow! Lovely to hear your memories of those old trains back then! I was in the UK then, and we didn't have anything that old! Most of our trains were built in the 1960s.
Paul the lines are known as the up and down main (fast). The up and down suburban (med) and up and down local (slow). Thank you for this great video and all this great information and detail. Well done you are a natural mate.
The Endeavour also runs on the Hunter Line, alongside the Hunter cars which are exclusive to the Hunter Line. Both are two-car sets and utilise diesel on non-electrified lines. I’ve also used the line a few times during the after-school peak, it’s overcrowded and has frequent bus replacements.
Thanks Tyler, yes I realised that some Endeavour's run on the Hunter Line when I went up there a few weeks later. I filmed one in my Telarah end of the line video - ua-cam.com/video/W_6I1I-Gu6E/v-deo.html.
The V-Sets were made from the 70s up till the the late 80s, by which time they looked a little old fashioned. The Millenium train and the Waratah look like a development of the Tangara which first rolled out in 1988. I remember the doors used to get stuck a lot on these, but they seem to have eventually solved that problem.
Thanks for that Andy. I remember the first time I saw a V Set in 2010, and I did think they looked a little old fashioned! At that time, silver fluted S sets, K sets and C sets made up the majority of services. How things have changed.
Lying in bed in Brighton on the South Coast of England; watching all the way through; nostalgia sweeping through me. Like James' thoughts (and Nigel Giles' memory of the 'Red Rattler') I left Sydney 2003 to look after my aged folks. That aside, my workshop and studio was up the hill at St. Peters and I would train commute from Central, where I lived in a beautiful crumbling warehouse to that station, if the train stopped there; not as frequent but a lovely walk through the park. Or Sydenham where every train stopped a less pleasant walk in the other direction. Newer, smarter and definitely cleaner looking trains; how Sydney has gentrified.
Hi Jeff, Good to hear from you in Brighton. Glad it bought back nostalgic memories! - A lot has changed with Sydney's public transport since you left. - I'm planning to do this video every year to capture the future changes. Hope you're enjoying the expanded Thameslink service! - I've been following this from over here!
Thanks now I understand more when you call out each train set's name and know what you are talking about. Pity all the red rattlers are gone, rode on lots of them in their peak days. In the 80s especially in the weekends there were a lot of 4 cars trains running. It was important not to stand too far from the platforms ends in case one has to run to the short carriages.
Glad this video was helpful. The purpose of this video was to help people identify the different train types and Petersham station is a super location to do that from. I plan to do another one in 2022. Hopefully by then, we'll have some D Sets (Mariyung trains) in service!
Awesome Video and History on the Trains! Also about Tangaras; on MOST weekends, The T2/T3/T8 Lines (or known as sector 2) gets ONE Tangara. Also I heard from a staff member that we SHOULD be getting 8 Tangara rosters for sector 2
Thanks! I didn't realise that 1 Tangara set runs on sector 2 on most weekends! I reckon that as the Oscar trains get transferred to Sydney Suburban lines, they will replace the Tangara's on the T1 and T9 lines, and we will then see more Tangara's on Sector 2, which will replace the K Sets.
I like your work and dedication. It I a revelation and your work gives me great confidence in NSW transport and the investments they have made. There is a lot of capital work done in the recent past and looks very slick and professional. I’d like to see more on the practical technology on how it all works. Drivers Cabin, control room and energy supply. Thanks David
Thanks David, Yes there has been a lot of investment in the Sydney train network over the last 10 years. I'll do what I can to include more of the technology that keeps it all working. However, it may be difficult to gain access to controls rooms etc, as I'm not in the industry. As this channel grows, some of these things may become more possible.
@@TheDavidGill I guess they get scrapped or one of two may get preserved. I saw a C Set at the back of Auburn maintenance depot today, so they haven't totally gone yet!
Just something to note. Millenniums (M sets) not only run in Sector 2 in 8 cars but also on the T5 line in 4 carriages. Also with sector 2 trains (T2, T3, T8), generally T2, and T8 cross paths when going around the city circle because a few years ago T8 never existed, it was just the T2 line. The T3 just does a loop around the city circle and stays T3
Hi Caleb, thanks for pointing that out regarding the Millenniums on the T5. I was actually on one the other week between Parramatta and Westmead. Yes, I just realised the other day that the T3 service does the loop and returns as a T3. And yes, I'm aware of how the T2 and T8 work together.
Great video Paul. Just to clarify the lines at 00:42 -the 'fast' lines are called the up and down main lines -the 'semi-fast' are called the up and down suburban lines -and the 'slow' lines are called the up and down local lines.
Great video and so interesting you have my vote. I come from Toronto where we have lots of trams subways and the GO commuter train but nothing like what you have in Sydney.
Hi Peter, glad you enjoyed this video. Yes the train system in Sydney is pretty good. There are a few areas that are heavily reliant on buses such as the Eastern Suburbs and Northern Beaches, but on the whole it's a good system, especially bearing in mind the difficult geography and all the water!
@@TransportVlog Hey Paul. If you love trains and want to be a driver then by all means apply. Some people are just doing the course because of the money. I'm doing it for both reasons and it's a great time to get into this industry.
This would have been very useful for me, having just gotten into trains, but this video only found its way to me after many wikipedia deep dives and looking at the train map. This is still a very helpful video!
Thanks Angus! - Glad you found this video. I did this especially for people like you that wanted to understand the different types of trains. I'm doing a similar one soon that will cover some of the freight locomotives, so look out for that one. Glad you found this video helpful.
Also Tangara's run on the South Coast Line between Port Kembla and Waterfall at weekdays. They are 4 car Tangara's. Also at the weekdays and weekends, Waratah Series 2 sometimes run on the T1 North Shore Line and the T9 Northern Line.
Thanks! - yes the double decker trains are great. Our XPTs are like your HST's and our Xplorers and Endeavours are like your Sprinters! I used to live in Cheshire and frequently took rail trips into Yorkshire. I remember seeing class 46's at Manchester Victoria, and being hauled by class 31's on the line to Sheffield! I've subscribed to your channel too. I assume you know about Don Coffeys channel? - if not, you do now - ua-cam.com/channels/8LH7xMAyCSqpClAvTHwJRw.html
@@TransportVlog Thanks a lot for all your info, yes i do watch Don Coffeys great videos, I'm in Bradford and have pretty poor stations for anything interesting so spend a lot of time at Leeds and York stations, also on Railcam York every day chatting.
Very interesting Paul. Thanks. I missed this one before. The new Nif trains can't come quick enough for the Central Coast line. One day! One the subject of Petersham ( and its neighbour Lewisham). I've long wondered the significance of the suffix Ham. Apparently an old English derivation for the word farm. Hence Peters farm and Lewis farm. However today in local usage we accent the latter part of the name to sham. "English and how she is spoke" End of lesson!
Glad you enjoyed it Luke. This was my most popular video, until it got beaten by the Melbourne Metro Tunnel video. Yes quite possibly! I can think of lots of places that end with "ham".
The waratah series 2 were expected to rune on T1 from the north shore to richmond or penrith to emu plains via the city. T2 To Leppington and parramatta from the city circle. T3 bankstown line from the city circle to lidcombe or liverpool via bankstown. T8 airport and south line to macarthur via the airport. and T9 Northern line from gordon to hornsby via the city and epping.
It's complicated! - I was born in Dunedin (New Zealand), migrated to UK at the age of 8 and lived in Cheshire (near Crewe), which is where my interest in railways started. I moved to London after University and lived there for 17 years. So I suppose my accent is very slightly northern, but not much! I've recently returned from a few days in Newcastle, so will have videos at Telarah, Sandgate, Dungog and possibly Maitland coming soon.
@@TransportVlog Hi, I was thinking the same thing when I heard you pronounce "Newcastle". In NSW it's pronounced with a long "a" not the short "a" that Victorians use (i.e. they say "New-CASS-tle).
Hello Paul, Nice video here. Waratah: It is impossible to find a Waratah in the T4 Ilawarra and Eastern Suburbs Line. Tangara: Tangara’s are hard to find at the T1 North Shore Line and Western and T9 Northern Line because of too much Waratah’s coming in. Waratah Series 2: Waratah Series 2 sometimes run through the T1 Western Line and North Shore Line at weekdays. Millenniums: Millenniums also run between T5 Cumberland Line. Petersham station has 2 platforms. Platform 1 is for City Services p. Platform 2 is for Inner West line services. Great Video Paul 😊
Hi Brendan, I did see a Waratah on a T4 service to Hurstville on a RTBU industrial action day. It started from Central (platforms 1 to 12). That's the only time though! Tangara's are still on the T1, about 1 in every 4 to 6 services are Tangaras. And yes M sets do the T5 (not sure how I forget that!). Glad you enjoyed this video.
@@TransportVlog, Great that you saw a Waratah at the T4 line to Hurstville at the RTBU Industrial Action day Paul. On the T1 Line, I was trying to find a Tangara on the T1 Line, but just a Waratah came a couple of times. Tangara’s are still in the T1 Line and the T9 line. You are right. I appreciate that.
The T9 Was Added on the Sydney Network, On The 28th of April 2019 At The Same Time As The S-sets are out of Service. Before 2019. The T1 Goes From Berowra To Epping, Richmond or Emu Plains. And Also Richmond or Emu Plains To Hornsby Via The Epping To Chatswood Link. (Closed For Converstion On the 30th of September 2018). And Before November 2017. The T2 Was Green That Goes From Leppington To Campbelltown or Macarthur Via The City Circle. And The T5 Even Go To Cambelltown From Schofields (Which Excents To Richmond On The 26th of November 2017).
Hi Paul thanks for the vlog the official titles of the tracks there are up and down main up.and down suburban and up.and down local provided the signals are clear the main is the fastest track there but not by much the suburban also has fast speeds but all.three tracks have multiple speed limits between Sydney and Homebush where the local line finishes .....
Yes that's right. There is some more footage of it towards the end of the video at 24:40. At the time, I thought it was an R set, but I think you're right, it's actually an S set! railgallery.wongm.com/petersham-training-college/
Great video! I just wanted to kindly point out that the Millennium M sets also run on the T7 Lidcombe-Olympic park line as well as the T5 Cumberland Line. The M sets also usually run on these lines in 4 carriages, rather than the typical 8 carriages. I might be wrong on this, but there is also at least one tangara service everyday that goes down to Wollongong and then port kembla or something like that.
Thanks, Paul, for some great education on all the different types of trains in NSW. I was not aware of the C Sets as I thought they were the same as K sets. Not sure if I posted about my drama with the Tangaras. My wife and I did a trip from Strathfield to Hornsby on a Tangara including wife's power chair and my walker. Strathfiled staff boobooed in placing us behind a driver compartment where there were NO seats! I was forced to ride from Strathfield to Hornsby via Epping SITTING ON MY WALKER! Rules forbid riding on walkers in transit! Hornsby staff messed up that day on our return trip to Strathfield,k omitting to advise Strathfield we were on board. Thanks to a fellow lady passenger, we avoided being carried on after Strathfield and to town. You don't discuss the controversy with Tangara's of the fixed seats, half facing forward half facing backwards in each carriage. I understand the fixed seats were a cost consideration. Thanks again,
Hi Geoffrey, It's wonderful that you're watching so many of my videos., and glad you enjoyed this one! Sorry to hear about your Tangara drama! It seems like a series of errors by station staff! Hope other train trips have been more pleasant for you both!
At the time of recording this video, they didn't seem to appear on the T7 very often. However, having checked TripView, it looks like the Millennium M sets are running the majority of the services now. It makes sense to use them on this line.
I was in Sydney in 2020 and my flight got cancelled due to a hectic storm, ended up staying at a mates in Leichhardt. The next day i wanted to catch the train into the city so walked to this station and was mesmerised by the amount of trains going through the station, it was quite entertaining. The old station building on the opposite side, is that used for anything? Would be perfect to turn into a train watching cafe or restaurant i think.
Yes it's a pretty busy station, especially in the peak, and the gentle curves make it wonderful for photos and video! I don't think old station building is in use at the moment, but I'll check when I'm next there. I agree it would make a lovely cafe or restaurant!
The V-sets are not Only be replaced by D-sets. The V-sets were replaced by Tangara G-sets on the south coast line Since 1996. The M-set Replaced First Batch V-sets in 2002. The Oscar H-set replaced Second Batch V-sets in December 2006. The D-set started replaced V-sets from 2020 to 2024.
Unless the M sets had toilets, they could never have replaced any V sets. The D sets are also not in use, so that is also wrong, since they haven't replaced anything..... YET.
2023 and the Sydney-Newcastle line is still covered in V Sets. I don't mind so long as they're keeping the suspension serviced, the seats are comfy, but surely they're long past the end of their intended lifespan by now.
That's right! Except for the withdrawal of the C sets, nothing has really changed! Definitely 2024 for the NIF/Mariyung D set replacements, so enjoy the V sets while you still can!
Apparently a few Tangara's run on the sector 2 lines (which includes the T5) at weekends. I didn't realise this at the time of recording this video. However, I've seen a few since, at unusual places such as Circular Quay!
They seem to be doing a good job at keeping the trains clean. From graffiti that is. Although they are also generally kept nice and hygienic I should say. I'll admit I quit like the coloured in block/bubble *graffiti 'pieces' they do on the side of trains🤭.. I'm curious as to what's the general consensus on that?.. Not scribble & scratches but an actual colourful 'piece' ?.. (im assuming most on this page would not be a fan but im interested to see if maybe some have an unexpected appreciation😆)..
Yes they do a good job, especially at the moment with COVID. I see cleaners all the time wiping handrails and other high touch points. Regarding the block / bubble pieces, I think it might be the advertising panels that you're seeing? - They were a few on the Tangara trains that I filmed and one on the last Oscar filmed.
@@TransportVlog No not advertising lol well not commissioned advertising anyway.. I meant graffiti pieces on the side of trains the slang for them is "panels" "let's go do some panels".. (fyi)
Hi Paul, there is a tiny number of Waratah B Sets trains on T9 Northern Line, which stops at Strathfield and directly to Rhodes and through to Hornsby. I'd taken it before yet I needed to reverse at Rhodes because it doesn't stop at North Strathfield, the situation often happens at around 3pm to 4pm.
Yes since recording this video, Waratah B sets have started running on the T9 and the Richmond branch of the T1 as well. I think the A and B sets are being used more interchangeably these days.
The UP and DOWN fast tracks are the UP and DOWN main lines, UP and DOWN semi fast are the UP and DOWN suburban and the UP and DOWN slow lines are the UP and DOWN local
Hi Paul. Since before 2009. Their was a Suburban Tangara Called T-sets since they were introcduce between 1988 and 1994. And Also Before The Oscar Train Came Into Service on the 15th of December 2006. There was A Intercity Tangara Called G-sets. G-set tangaras were introduce between 1994 and 1996 To replaced U Sets. As They were converted to Suburban Tangara T-sets by late 2009 for oscar h sets interuban duties.
I am old enough to remember the old Red Rattlers before they were phased in the late 1970s. I also recall annoying passengers who would smoke on trains and stations. I enjoy your videos Paul even though you are a pommie immigrant.
According to wiki and a couple of other sites I checked, there is no A2 or A79. so that makes 78 sets. I know that A2 got damaged on return to China, but I don't know what happened to A79. If you or anyone else knows, please do comment below.
@@callum_bracht There is definitely no such thing as A79. The only thing I can think of that you saw is A42, which is the train that hit the buffer stop at Richmond in 2018. The Driving Trailer that hit the buffer was written off and replaced by carriage D6379 which was originally part of the 4 car prototype Waratah train they used for testing. So if you were travelling in carriage D6379 it would appear you are in A79, but it is actually A42 and there is definitely no such thing as A79.
Hello Paul, I want to tell you that the Tangara’s sometimes go to the T8 between Central and Macarthur, and the T2 Lines between Central and Homebush, and the City Circle at the weekends and I realise that it’s a very cool rare sightings. On 18th of February Saturday, I saw a Tangara arriving on Circular Quay that is running through the T3 Bankstown Line to Lidcombe. This year K Sets don’t run on the weekends and it’s impossible to find a K Set at the weekends 😂😂 Millennium M Set Trains only run at the T5 Cumberland Line at the weekends between Schofields and Liverpool and I can’t find an M Set at the T2, T3, T7 and T8 Lines at the weekends. Just some random Waratah’s there. I’m pretty sure the NIF Fleet Mariyung D Sets will be in service this year at March 2023. The C Sets are now gone and you can’t see any C Sets anymore. There is no more C Sets, say goodbye to the C Sets. Very Interesting presentation. 😊😊
Hi Brendan, yes that;s right! I've seen the occasional one on the City Circle at weekends. On weekdays, there is one K set that runs in the offpeak on the Bankstown Line. Yes hopefully we'll see some D sets in service soon!
@@TransportVlog, Cool. But K Sets don't all the time on the weekdays, only in off peaks. But apparently it's impossible to find a K Set at the weekends, I was trying to find a K Set but I saw only Waratah's.
Didn't know Oscar production overlapped into A set production in 2011 and 2012. K sets now make a cam gear noise. They used to be silent except for a faint motor noise. The final one or two batches of V sets had chopper control like the Cs and Ts. I regret not riding my first Millennium when they were new instead of when they were over a decade old and after having ridden A sets before them. The Ms would have dazzled me in the same way as my first Tangara ride in 1989. I did enjoy the more pronounced version of the already entertaining A set traction sounds. Better late than never. Did you ever experience the S sets? Pretty impressive for a train that was introduced in 1972. Still ride smooth to today's standards.
Thanks, yes I've heard the chopper sounds on a few V sets over the years. I plan to do a separate video on the V Sets and I'll talk more about the differences then.
@@TransportVlog Can't wait. @NSWtrainfan3719 so only the ones with the sliding air door to the main compartments that hardly ever worked and now remain open, letting in the noise 😣.
The older electric intercity trains being U sets or U boats, were single deck trains with very comfortable reversible seats. They ran on all the lines, Central Coast, South Coast, Blue Mountains lines. Have an aircompressor similar to red rattlers! The two are actually very similar to each other right down to having a big wrench type of key to drive the train.
Why do you think that they still keep a 2 car r set? Also I think there is a way you can tell the difference between a converted s set, the s sets that used to have the pointed outward fronts used to be r sets or L sets, but the s sets with a normal flat front were exclusively build s sets.
I have been on a K set before 7am, But i never being on a K set Before. I took a chance to ride the K set before they were withdrawn in 2024. But the K set Smells Strange and Unreliable. They were my most hated trains. My Aussie Dad has been on the K set a Lot after 1981. Also he has ride the Red rattlers a lot before 1992.
The V sets are my most favourite electric train to travel on. I can remember when there was a carriage where you could smoke. Drinking water dispensers inside the carriage doors. I really hope these very comfortable trains aren't taken off their roads of destinations. Having free travel on public transport just recently, has made a great impact on more commuters traveling. So don't take the V sets out of service.
The NIF sets are vstill not yet in service, yet they have attracted a heap of criticism from both train crew and passengers (or "customers" as Transport 4 NSW calls them). Train crews not happy with plans to make them driver only, no guard, which is a stupid idea on lines with numerous unstaffed stations, as the Newcastle, Kiama and Blue Mountains lines are. Passengers VERY unhappy with the non-reversible seating, with Transport4 NSW cardiganmen and Transport Minister Constance ignoring all complaints and not responding to the. Still, it's an ill wind which blows nobody any good; when rail bureaucrats stop listening to "customers" a change of government follows not long after.
The Tangara name is of Aboriginal origin, meaning "to go" I haven't seen anything that indicates that the Tangara was a Japanese design, BUT it does have Japanese technology (by Mitsubishi), so it would make sense if they played a roll in the design from a technology point of view. From memory a fair amount of things were tested on the "C sets" (like the chopper motors), things that worked were carried on into the Tangara, things that didn't... well were not.
The 6 tracks at Petersham are the UP and DOWN Main, Up and Down suburban and Up and Down local, Faster trains will use the Up and Down suburban and Main, Local services will use the Up and Down Local line
Good question! - I think it's to do with the power supply on the Illawarra Line. The Waratah trains require more power. It would be really good to see Waratah trains on this line, so hopefully this will happen, when the power supply is upgraded.
Hi Paul. I have lived in Sydney all my life and I was glued to this video like a newcomer because you made it so entertaining and educational. Thanks Paul for this excellent presentation.
Thanks John - Glad you enjoyed it. I do plan to cover each train type in turn, but this seemed like a nice introduction.
i realize I'm kinda off topic but do anybody know of a good website to watch new movies online?
@Rodrigo Braden definitely, I have been watching on flixzone for since april myself =)
I agree with Aussie John. I'm also a Sydneysider, and I found this educational and enjoyable.
I love the v Sets the most, even if they are the oldest they have the comfiest seats and they are the only train I have ridden ever, brings back good memories, best known in the blue mountains line :D
Yes, they are great trains! They will be around for a few more months, as the new D sets won't be coming into service until 2024.
Great to see the new stock Paul. I lived in Sydney from 1986 to 2000 and remember my first hair-raising trip over the harbour bridge to a new job, on a red rattler with doors open in the peak.....how times have changed.
Yes they certainly have Nige. Generally for the better and much safer now! - I do miss sticking my head out of the windows though!
I left Sydney more than 10 years ago - great to see this summary, reminds me of my old commute and how much it will have improved with the newer trains, especially since I think everything is air-conditioned now! Thank you, great video.
Hi James, a lot has changed since you left, The series 1 Waratah's replaced the majority of the non airconditioned S Sets. It took another order of Waratahs (the series 2 ones), to replace all the S Sets. So all trains are air conditioned and all the buses are too now. Glad you enjoyed this video.
@@TransportVlog Hi Paul, re a/c buses...maybe the Government ones are all a/c but we still have some "fridges" (over air cond) and "ovens" (non a/c with fixed closed windows) out here in the west courtesy of Busways. Not to mention while now running new electric buses, they still have some antique STEPS buses which I and my walker hate!
Insiders tip - Tangara Trains' passenger doors were replaced by Millennium doors a few years back; to give the trains a longer life. The old T-Set passenger doors were notoriously unreliable....cheers from a retired Train Guard.
Thanks Francis, I wasn't aware of that! Thanks for sharing this with me. Lovely to hear from a retired train guard!
@@TransportVlog - Thanks...
Though not the exact m set doors
Great work. Very entertaining and well researched videos. Please keep the fantastic work rolling.
Thanks Jon, will do!
Petersham was my home station from 2012-2020. Thank you for this, and all your other informative and interesting uploads.
You're very welcome. Good to hear that you used to live in Petersham. it's one of my favourite stations for filming.
Really good Paul! Just wanted to point out that the C sets ran all day but some K sets were brought out for peak hour. Run 27 and run 6 were C set runs until their retirement.
Thanks!, glad you enjoyed it. Thanks also for clarifying about the C sets running all day. I miss them!
Amazing Amazing Amazing thank you! I’m based at Flemo, our presentation teams look after V sets during days and all other set types during nights. It’s greatly appreciated that you took time to make this amazing video! Well done! Love it 🥰
Thanks for your wonderful feedback Kevin. I'm so pleased with how this video has done. Its over 2 years old now, and its still one of the most viewed!
Hi Paul, my two-year-old is absolutely obsessed with trains and just loves this video, we’ve watched it at least 10 times now. He recognises all the different types of trains when we’re down at the station. And I’ve learnt A LOT too! I know toddlers probably weren’t your target audience 😅 but thanks heaps 😊
Glad your two year old enjoys this video so much! Its over 2 years old now (so might have been filmed before he was born), but the train types haven't changed in that time (except for the withdrawal of the C sets). It's still one of my most popular videos, and I do plan to do similar train types videos for Melbourne and Brisbane in the future. Glad you've learnt lots from it too!
Fantastic and informative video! I have learnt a lot now about our trains! The backgrounds of the train sets were fascinating!
Glad you enjoyed it and found it useful. I learned a lot from putting this one together. Glad you liked the busy bit at the end!
Thank you for this very calming and informative video! I've always been very interested in the different trains and train lines in NSW and your video scratched every single itch I've had over the last few years. I live on the T4 line and I'm so happy to hear we'll getting some new trains on the line soon! Especially after discovering all the Tangara trains are older than me haha. Thanks again ^-^
HI Lauren, glad you enjoyed this video! Yes I believe a power upgrade is planned for the T4 line and that should allow Waratah's and other 4 Gen trains in larger numbers. LOL! I'm quite a few years older than the Tangara Trains and the K Sets too!
That montage at the end was very cool to watch! Sure was busy!
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I might add that the 70s and 80s trains seem old now, but back in the 80s we had some real old timers, like the DEB trains (1940s) that went between Wollongong and Port Kembla, which I rode on in '88. Other old trains were the unheated "Fish & Chips" that ran between Sydney and Newcastle (1950s). I almost froze in winter '88 on a Fish & Chips between Newcastle and Sydney at night. Remember those old trains had about a hundred open windows!
Hi Andy, wow! Lovely to hear your memories of those old trains back then! I was in the UK then, and we didn't have anything that old! Most of our trains were built in the 1960s.
Paul the lines are known as the up and down main (fast). The up and down suburban (med) and up and down local (slow). Thank you for this great video and all this great information and detail. Well done you are a natural mate.
Thanks for that Kenneth. Correct track names noted for future videos!
To add to that fact the MS5+642 structure label stands for Main Suburban 5 kilometres 642 metres from central
K sets also run on T7 Olympic Park Line and Sometimes the T5 Cumberland Line.
The Waratah A and B sets trains are still being produced by CRRC Changchun Railway Vehicles Co., Ltd, especially B sets.
Hi Yotao, yes that's right! The last B set (no 41) was delivered in the middle of 2021.
4:11 The sounds of crows calling and the A set leaving the station will always remind me of early morning commutes. Appreciate the video.
Ah yes, those noisy crows! They sometimes appear in the background in my voiceovers, as I have a few crows hanging around in a tree close to my place!
Good to see nearly all types of rolling stock in one vid.
Yes absolutely. There is quite a lot of variety. I plan to repeat the Petersham morning peak in a few months time, once the NIF's are in service.
The Endeavour also runs on the Hunter Line, alongside the Hunter cars which are exclusive to the Hunter Line. Both are two-car sets and utilise diesel on non-electrified lines. I’ve also used the line a few times during the after-school peak, it’s overcrowded and has frequent bus replacements.
Thanks Tyler, yes I realised that some Endeavour's run on the Hunter Line when I went up there a few weeks later. I filmed one in my Telarah end of the line video - ua-cam.com/video/W_6I1I-Gu6E/v-deo.html.
The Hunter Railcar are also J sets.
V-set ... The Best set !!
Diesel Endeavour Trains are also known as N sets. And Xplorer Trains are P sets. Also Hunter Railcars are known as J sets.
The V-Sets were made from the 70s up till the the late 80s, by which time they looked a little old fashioned. The Millenium train and the Waratah look like a development of the Tangara which first rolled out in 1988. I remember the doors used to get stuck a lot on these, but they seem to have eventually solved that problem.
Thanks for that Andy. I remember the first time I saw a V Set in 2010, and I did think they looked a little old fashioned! At that time, silver fluted S sets, K sets and C sets made up the majority of services. How things have changed.
Lying in bed in Brighton on the South Coast of England; watching all the way through;
nostalgia sweeping through me. Like James' thoughts (and Nigel Giles' memory of the 'Red Rattler')
I left Sydney 2003 to look after my aged folks.
That aside, my workshop and studio was up the hill at St. Peters and I would train commute from Central, where I lived in a beautiful crumbling warehouse to that station, if the train stopped there;
not as frequent but a lovely walk through the park. Or Sydenham where every train stopped
a less pleasant walk in the other direction.
Newer, smarter and definitely cleaner looking trains; how Sydney has gentrified.
Hi Jeff, Good to hear from you in Brighton. Glad it bought back nostalgic memories! - A lot has changed with Sydney's public transport since you left. - I'm planning to do this video every year to capture the future changes. Hope you're enjoying the expanded Thameslink service! - I've been following this from over here!
Thanks now I understand more when you call out each train set's name and know what you are talking about. Pity all the red rattlers are gone, rode on lots of them in their peak days. In the 80s especially in the weekends there were a lot of 4 cars trains running. It was important not to stand too far from the platforms ends in case one has to run to the short carriages.
Glad this video was helpful. The purpose of this video was to help people identify the different train types and Petersham station is a super location to do that from. I plan to do another one in 2022. Hopefully by then, we'll have some D Sets (Mariyung trains) in service!
B25 (1 of 17 more waratah series 2) entered service on the 3rd of September 2020.
Thank you so much. It was a brilliant video. Thank you
You're very welcome Craig, Glad you enjoyed it.
Thanks Paul for making this video.
You're very welcome
Awesome Video and History on the Trains! Also about Tangaras; on MOST weekends, The T2/T3/T8 Lines (or known as sector 2) gets ONE Tangara. Also I heard from a staff member that we SHOULD be getting 8 Tangara rosters for sector 2
Thanks! I didn't realise that 1 Tangara set runs on sector 2 on most weekends! I reckon that as the Oscar trains get transferred to Sydney Suburban lines, they will replace the Tangara's on the T1 and T9 lines, and we will then see more Tangara's on Sector 2, which will replace the K Sets.
@@TransportVlog Yep, I think a few A Set will also come over
Thanks Paul, really good video and thanks for all the audio of the electric motors, keep up the audio descriptions they make a big difference.
Thanks Iaen, Glad you enjoyed this video.
Me, a fan of V-sets looking at the NIF sets: "Thanks, I hate it"
Well I think the way things are going, it looks like the V sets will be around for a little while longer!
Just subscribed to your channel, really enjoy the information you provide in the videos, cheers!
Thanks Aaron and welcome aboard! Glad you're enjoying my videos.
Thanks Paul.
You're very welcome.
I saw 12 B sets on sector 3 last Thursday .
I Saw A Waratah Series 2 On the T9 Northern Line Last Night Going To Hornsby Or Berowra On Platform 3 At Epping Station.
I like your work and dedication. It I a revelation and your work gives me great confidence in NSW transport and the investments they have made.
There is a lot of capital work done in the recent past and looks very slick and professional.
I’d like to see more on the practical technology on how it all works. Drivers Cabin, control room and energy supply.
Thanks
David
Thanks David, Yes there has been a lot of investment in the Sydney train network over the last 10 years. I'll do what I can to include more of the technology that keeps it all working. However, it may be difficult to gain access to controls rooms etc, as I'm not in the industry. As this channel grows, some of these things may become more possible.
@@TransportVlog
What happens to the trains and carriages when decommissioned? Thanks !
@@TheDavidGill I guess they get scrapped or one of two may get preserved. I saw a C Set at the back of Auburn maintenance depot today, so they haven't totally gone yet!
@@TheDavidGill Two C set carriages have been preserved and are now used as training carriages for Fire and Rescue NSW.
Just something to note. Millenniums (M sets) not only run in Sector 2 in 8 cars but also on the T5 line in 4 carriages.
Also with sector 2 trains (T2, T3, T8), generally T2, and T8 cross paths when going around the city circle because a few years ago T8 never existed, it was just the T2 line. The T3 just does a loop around the city circle and stays T3
Hi Caleb, thanks for pointing that out regarding the Millenniums on the T5. I was actually on one the other week between Parramatta and Westmead. Yes, I just realised the other day that the T3 service does the loop and returns as a T3. And yes, I'm aware of how the T2 and T8 work together.
The Oscar H Sets Also Run On The Blue Mountains Line From Central To Lithgow. Because I saw that at Central Sydney Terminal A Few Months Ago.
Brilliant presentation. Much appreciated!
You're very welcome. Glad you enjoyed it Stephen.
I think the orange livery on Waratah 2s are a pre-view of what was to come on the new D sets.
Yes possibly, I do like the orange fronts on the Waratah 2's.
Great video Paul.
Just to clarify the lines at 00:42
-the 'fast' lines are called the up and down main lines
-the 'semi-fast' are called the up and down suburban lines
-and the 'slow' lines are called the up and down local lines.
Thanks! - I'll use this terminology next time. Cheers Paul
My eye was twitching as well :-)
Great video and so interesting you have my vote. I come from Toronto where we have lots of trams subways and the GO commuter train but nothing like what you have in Sydney.
Hi Peter, glad you enjoyed this video. Yes the train system in Sydney is pretty good. There are a few areas that are heavily reliant on buses such as the Eastern Suburbs and Northern Beaches, but on the whole it's a good system, especially bearing in mind the difficult geography and all the water!
Thanks Paul that was great content! I'm training right now in Petersham as a trainee driver.
You're very welcome Matthew. Hope you enjoy your training. I occasionally think about applying to become a train driver myself!
@@TransportVlog Hey Paul. If you love trains and want to be a driver then by all means apply. Some people are just doing the course because of the money. I'm doing it for both reasons and it's a great time to get into this industry.
This would have been very useful for me, having just gotten into trains, but this video only found its way to me after many wikipedia deep dives and looking at the train map. This is still a very helpful video!
Thanks Angus! - Glad you found this video. I did this especially for people like you that wanted to understand the different types of trains. I'm doing a similar one soon that will cover some of the freight locomotives, so look out for that one. Glad you found this video helpful.
@@TransportVlog Wonderful! I know absolutely nothing about those but I always see them going along T9!
Also Tangara's run on the South Coast Line between Port Kembla and Waterfall at weekdays.
They are 4 car Tangara's.
Also at the weekdays and weekends, Waratah Series 2 sometimes run on the T1 North Shore Line and the T9 Northern Line.
Yes that's right Brendan. I've seen Waratah Series 2 trains on the T1 on weekdays too (although that was after recording this video).
@@TransportVlog So before 2009 have you seen a intercity tangara called G-sets.
Great video. 👍
Thanks 👍
I have recently found your channel and you got some really good videos! I have subscribed too :)
Thanks for your positive feedback Michael. Glad you're enjoying my videos.
I love the m sets because
A: The motor sound is the best
B: They have good air conditioning
C: They look nice
Yes absolutely! I'm looking forward to doing a video all about the M sets.
If you get on an m set. please go into one of the n cars which are the 2nd, 3rd, 5th, and 6th carriages
@@thenswtrainspotter Will do!
Enjoyed your videos, great trains you have, wish we had some double deckers lol, greetings from the UK, have subscribed
Thanks! - yes the double decker trains are great. Our XPTs are like your HST's and our Xplorers and Endeavours are like your Sprinters! I used to live in Cheshire and frequently took rail trips into Yorkshire. I remember seeing class 46's at Manchester Victoria, and being hauled by class 31's on the line to Sheffield! I've subscribed to your channel too. I assume you know about Don Coffeys channel? - if not, you do now - ua-cam.com/channels/8LH7xMAyCSqpClAvTHwJRw.html
@@TransportVlog Thanks a lot for all your info, yes i do watch Don Coffeys great videos, I'm in Bradford and have pretty poor stations for anything interesting so spend a lot of time at Leeds and York stations, also on Railcam York every day chatting.
@@YorkshireMalsTrains I check out the Crewe Railcam occasionally. That was my local station as a kid!
Very interesting Paul. Thanks. I missed this one before. The new Nif trains can't come quick enough for the Central Coast line. One day! One the subject of Petersham ( and its neighbour Lewisham). I've long wondered the significance of the suffix Ham. Apparently an old English derivation for the word farm. Hence Peters farm and Lewis farm. However today in local usage we accent the latter part of the name to sham. "English and how she is spoke" End of lesson!
Glad you enjoyed it Luke. This was my most popular video, until it got beaten by the Melbourne Metro Tunnel video. Yes quite possibly! I can think of lots of places that end with "ham".
H sets are based of Tangara G-sets And The M sets.
The waratah series 2 were expected to rune on T1 from the north shore to richmond or penrith to emu plains via the city. T2 To Leppington and parramatta from the city circle. T3 bankstown line from the city circle to lidcombe or liverpool via bankstown. T8 airport and south line to macarthur via the airport. and T9 Northern line from gordon to hornsby via the city and epping.
Yes, since I recorded this video, Waratah Series 2 trains have started appearing on the T1 and T9. I saw one recently at St Leonards Station.
Great video. Just curious about what part of England your from if you don't mind me asking. And are there any other stations you plan to film at?
It's complicated! - I was born in Dunedin (New Zealand), migrated to UK at the age of 8 and lived in Cheshire (near Crewe), which is where my interest in railways started. I moved to London after University and lived there for 17 years. So I suppose my accent is very slightly northern, but not much! I've recently returned from a few days in Newcastle, so will have videos at Telarah, Sandgate, Dungog and possibly Maitland coming soon.
@@TransportVlog Hi, I was thinking the same thing when I heard you pronounce "Newcastle". In NSW it's pronounced with a long "a" not the short "a" that Victorians use (i.e. they say "New-CASS-tle).
@@ktipuss Thanks for that. The Newcastle in the north of England is also pronounced "New-CASS-tle"
Thank you. Very informative.
Glad it was helpful Tony.
The k sets use to run on the carlingford line before 2020. as they stopped running on the T1 since the 26th of november 2017.
Thats right. I remember K sets and S sets on the T1.
Hello Paul, Nice video here.
Waratah: It is impossible to find a Waratah in the T4 Ilawarra and Eastern Suburbs Line.
Tangara: Tangara’s are hard to find at the T1 North Shore Line and Western and T9 Northern Line because of too much Waratah’s coming in.
Waratah Series 2: Waratah Series 2 sometimes run through the T1 Western Line and North Shore Line at weekdays.
Millenniums: Millenniums also run between T5 Cumberland Line.
Petersham station has 2 platforms.
Platform 1 is for City Services p.
Platform 2 is for Inner West line services.
Great Video Paul 😊
Hi Brendan, I did see a Waratah on a T4 service to Hurstville on a RTBU industrial action day. It started from Central (platforms 1 to 12). That's the only time though! Tangara's are still on the T1, about 1 in every 4 to 6 services are Tangaras. And yes M sets do the T5 (not sure how I forget that!). Glad you enjoyed this video.
@@TransportVlog, Great that you saw a Waratah at the T4 line to Hurstville at the RTBU Industrial Action day Paul.
On the T1 Line, I was trying to find a Tangara on the T1 Line, but just a Waratah came a couple of times. Tangara’s are still in the T1 Line and the T9 line. You are right. I appreciate that.
The T9 Was Added on the Sydney Network, On The 28th of April 2019 At The Same Time As The S-sets are out of Service. Before 2019. The T1 Goes From Berowra To Epping, Richmond or Emu Plains. And Also Richmond or Emu Plains To Hornsby Via The Epping To Chatswood Link. (Closed For Converstion On the 30th of September 2018). And Before November 2017. The T2 Was Green That Goes From Leppington To Campbelltown or Macarthur Via The City Circle. And The T5 Even Go To Cambelltown From Schofields (Which Excents To Richmond On The 26th of November 2017).
Paul another difference of A set and B set is the PIDs
Yes, quite a big difference there!
And 21:00 Endeavours run on the Hunter Line as well, from Newcastle Interchange to Dungog or Scone
Yes I did think about mentioning the Hunter Endeavour sets at the time. I'll be filming some Hunter sets next week, so that will make up for it!
@@TransportVlog great!
And to Musellbrook too !
21:02 Endeavours also run on the Hunter Line
Yes, I did think of mentioning this at the time. I plan to do a separate video on the Hunter Endeavour sets.
The Front And Back Of The Cab Doors Were Painted In Orange In September 2013.
Nice video!
Thanks!
I remember the first time I went on a Tangara in 88. They seemed so modern compared to the red rattlers that were still running at the time
Yes, there were way ahead of their time back then!
Hi Paul thanks for the vlog the official titles of the tracks there are up and down main up.and down suburban and up.and down local provided the signals are clear the main is the fastest track there but not by much the suburban also has fast speeds but all.three tracks have multiple speed limits between Sydney and Homebush where the local line finishes .....
Thanks Stephen for sharing the official names. I'll use these next time. Cheers Paul
The T9 line offers services for peak times in the morning and arrives at Central then back.😆
Yes that's right! And they run express to Burwood (and don't stop at Redfern).
When I did a peak hour in this area , there were still plenty of S sets about on sectors 2 and 3 .
Yes, that must have been a few years ago now. There were probably less Waratah trains then too!
6:05 When you are talking about the s sets you can see one stable in the background!
Yes that's right. There is some more footage of it towards the end of the video at 24:40. At the time, I thought it was an R set, but I think you're right, it's actually an S set! railgallery.wongm.com/petersham-training-college/
Great video!
I just wanted to kindly point out that the Millennium M sets also run on the T7 Lidcombe-Olympic park line as well as the T5 Cumberland Line.
The M sets also usually run on these lines in 4 carriages, rather than the typical 8 carriages.
I might be wrong on this, but there is also at least one tangara service everyday that goes down to Wollongong and then port kembla or something like that.
Thanks for that. Yes I'd forgotten about the use of M Sets on the T5 line. Yeah I guess a Tangara might head down that way in the peaks.
Thanks, Paul, for some great education on all the different types of trains in NSW. I was not aware of the C Sets as I thought they were the same as K sets. Not sure if I posted about my drama with the Tangaras. My wife and I did a trip from Strathfield to Hornsby on a Tangara including wife's power chair and my walker. Strathfiled staff boobooed in placing us behind a driver compartment where there were NO seats! I was forced to ride from Strathfield to Hornsby via Epping SITTING ON MY WALKER! Rules forbid riding on walkers in transit! Hornsby staff messed up that day on our return trip to Strathfield,k omitting to advise Strathfield we were on board. Thanks to a fellow lady passenger, we avoided being carried on after Strathfield and to town. You don't discuss the controversy with Tangara's of the fixed seats, half facing forward half facing backwards in each carriage. I understand the fixed seats were a cost consideration. Thanks again,
Hi Geoffrey, It's wonderful that you're watching so many of my videos., and glad you enjoyed this one! Sorry to hear about your Tangara drama! It seems like a series of errors by station staff! Hope other train trips have been more pleasant for you both!
17:10 There's mistake, M sets run on the T7 Line
At the time of recording this video, they didn't seem to appear on the T7 very often. However, having checked TripView, it looks like the Millennium M sets are running the majority of the services now. It makes sense to use them on this line.
I was in Sydney in 2020 and my flight got cancelled due to a hectic storm, ended up staying at a mates in Leichhardt. The next day i wanted to catch the train into the city so walked to this station and was mesmerised by the amount of trains going through the station, it was quite entertaining. The old station building on the opposite side, is that used for anything? Would be perfect to turn into a train watching cafe or restaurant i think.
Yes it's a pretty busy station, especially in the peak, and the gentle curves make it wonderful for photos and video! I don't think old station building is in use at the moment, but I'll check when I'm next there. I agree it would make a lovely cafe or restaurant!
The V-sets are not Only be replaced by D-sets. The V-sets were replaced by Tangara G-sets on the south coast line Since 1996. The M-set Replaced First Batch V-sets in 2002. The Oscar H-set replaced Second Batch V-sets in December 2006. The D-set started replaced V-sets from 2020 to 2024.
Unless the M sets had toilets, they could never have replaced any V sets.
The D sets are also not in use, so that is also wrong, since they haven't replaced anything..... YET.
Great video 🤙🏻
Thanks!
2023 and the Sydney-Newcastle line is still covered in V Sets. I don't mind so long as they're keeping the suspension serviced, the seats are comfy, but surely they're long past the end of their intended lifespan by now.
That's right! Except for the withdrawal of the C sets, nothing has really changed! Definitely 2024 for the NIF/Mariyung D set replacements, so enjoy the V sets while you still can!
They actually built 14 4 Car C sets
Thanks for clarifying. I just checked and you're right, it is definitely 14 sets - 56 carriages.
The oscars are also known as h sets
Yes that's right.
For some days in 2021, The T sets ran on the T5 line from Leppington to Schofields
I was on one
Apparently a few Tangara's run on the sector 2 lines (which includes the T5) at weekends. I didn't realise this at the time of recording this video. However, I've seen a few since, at unusual places such as Circular Quay!
They seem to be doing a good job at keeping the trains clean. From graffiti that is. Although they are also generally kept nice and hygienic I should say.
I'll admit I quit like the coloured in block/bubble *graffiti 'pieces' they do on the side of trains🤭.. I'm curious as to what's the general consensus on that?.. Not scribble & scratches but an actual colourful 'piece' ?.. (im assuming most on this page would not be a fan but im interested to see if maybe some have an unexpected appreciation😆)..
Yes they do a good job, especially at the moment with COVID. I see cleaners all the time wiping handrails and other high touch points. Regarding the block / bubble pieces, I think it might be the advertising panels that you're seeing? - They were a few on the Tangara trains that I filmed and one on the last Oscar filmed.
Regarding the block bubble pieces, are you referring to graffiti art?
@@TransportVlog No not advertising lol well not commissioned advertising anyway.. I meant graffiti pieces on the side of trains the slang for them is "panels" "let's go do some panels".. (fyi)
@@تشؤنسخى I hadn't noticed those! - I'll keep a look out in the future.
@@TransportVlog yea not so much around now days. 👍liked your waterloo clip.
Hi Paul, there is a tiny number of Waratah B Sets trains on T9 Northern Line, which stops at Strathfield and directly to Rhodes and through to Hornsby. I'd taken it before yet I needed to reverse at Rhodes because it doesn't stop at North Strathfield, the situation often happens at around 3pm to 4pm.
Yes since recording this video, Waratah B sets have started running on the T9 and the Richmond branch of the T1 as well. I think the A and B sets are being used more interchangeably these days.
The UP and DOWN fast tracks are the UP and DOWN main lines, UP and DOWN semi fast are the UP and DOWN suburban and the UP and DOWN slow lines are the UP and DOWN local
Yes that's right! I found the Railsafe website after uploading this video, so I always check that now for the correct train names!
Hi Paul. Since before 2009. Their was a Suburban Tangara Called T-sets since they were introcduce between 1988 and 1994. And Also Before The Oscar Train Came Into Service on the 15th of December 2006. There was A Intercity Tangara Called G-sets. G-set tangaras were introduce between 1994 and 1996 To replaced U Sets. As They were converted to Suburban Tangara T-sets by late 2009 for oscar h sets interuban duties.
Thanks for that Ethan, when I’m catching a Tangara train, I often look out for the old G Sets with their reversible and high-backed seats!
@@TransportVlogex g sets Target plate will always have T1XX fond those set these are g sets
I am old enough to remember the old Red Rattlers before they were phased in the late 1970s. I also recall annoying passengers who would smoke on trains and stations.
I enjoy your videos Paul even though you are a pommie immigrant.
Thanks Jack, - yes it was a different world back then!
4:00 a little correction just here, there is actually 79 sets in service, A1 then A3 and then all numbers to A80
According to wiki and a couple of other sites I checked, there is no A2 or A79. so that makes 78 sets. I know that A2 got damaged on return to China, but I don't know what happened to A79. If you or anyone else knows, please do comment below.
@@TransportVlog I’m not sure what the internet is saying but I saw A79 last Saturday, so there’s some clarification that it is in service
@@callum_bracht There is definitely no such thing as A79. The only thing I can think of that you saw is A42, which is the train that hit the buffer stop at Richmond in 2018. The Driving Trailer that hit the buffer was written off and replaced by carriage D6379 which was originally part of the 4 car prototype Waratah train they used for testing. So if you were travelling in carriage D6379 it would appear you are in A79, but it is actually A42 and there is definitely no such thing as A79.
@@Ry-eh1xh that makes a lot of sense thank you for clarification
@@callum_bracht No worries mate
XPT trains were NT33 and WT27, Xplorer was NP23
Thanks for that.
Hello Paul, I want to tell you that the Tangara’s sometimes go to the T8 between Central and Macarthur, and the T2 Lines between Central and Homebush, and the City Circle at the weekends and I realise that it’s a very cool rare sightings. On 18th of February Saturday, I saw a Tangara arriving on Circular Quay that is running through the T3 Bankstown Line to Lidcombe.
This year K Sets don’t run on the weekends and it’s impossible to find a K Set at the weekends 😂😂
Millennium M Set Trains only run at the T5 Cumberland Line at the weekends between Schofields and Liverpool and I can’t find an M Set at the T2, T3, T7 and T8 Lines at the weekends. Just some random Waratah’s there.
I’m pretty sure the NIF Fleet Mariyung D Sets will be in service this year at March 2023.
The C Sets are now gone and you can’t see any C Sets anymore. There is no more C Sets, say goodbye to the C Sets.
Very Interesting presentation. 😊😊
Hi Brendan, yes that;s right! I've seen the occasional one on the City Circle at weekends. On weekdays, there is one K set that runs in the offpeak on the Bankstown Line. Yes hopefully we'll see some D sets in service soon!
@@TransportVlog, Cool. But K Sets don't all the time on the weekdays, only in off peaks. But apparently it's impossible to find a K Set at the weekends, I was trying to find a K Set but I saw only Waratah's.
Well done mate! :)
Thanks Phil 😀
Didn't know Oscar production overlapped into A set production in 2011 and 2012.
K sets now make a cam gear noise. They used to be silent except for a faint motor noise.
The final one or two batches of V sets had chopper control like the Cs and Ts.
I regret not riding my first Millennium when they were new instead of when they were over a decade old and after having ridden A sets before them. The Ms would have dazzled me in the same way as my first Tangara ride in 1989. I did enjoy the more pronounced version of the already entertaining A set traction sounds. Better late than never.
Did you ever experience the S sets?
Pretty impressive for a train that was introduced in 1972. Still ride smooth to today's standards.
The last batch of v sets was delivered in 1989 Which consists of DKT, DKM and DJM cars. The last batch used chopper control
Thanks, yes I've heard the chopper sounds on a few V sets over the years. I plan to do a separate video on the V Sets and I'll talk more about the differences then.
@@TransportVlog Can't wait.
@NSWtrainfan3719 so only the ones with the sliding air door to the main compartments that hardly ever worked and now remain open, letting in the noise 😣.
The older electric intercity trains being U sets or U boats, were single deck trains with very comfortable reversible seats. They ran on all the lines, Central Coast, South Coast, Blue Mountains lines. Have an aircompressor similar to red rattlers! The two are actually very similar to each other right down to having a big wrench type of key to drive the train.
Why do you think that they still keep a 2 car r set? Also I think there is a way you can tell the difference between a converted s set, the s sets that used to have the pointed outward fronts used to be r sets or L sets, but the s sets with a normal flat front were exclusively build s sets.
L sets are 2 cars R sets are 3 cars
I have been on a K set before 7am, But i never being on a K set Before. I took a chance to ride the K set before they were withdrawn in 2024. But the K set Smells Strange and Unreliable. They were my most hated trains. My Aussie Dad has been on the K set a Lot after 1981. Also he has ride the Red rattlers a lot before 1992.
Waratah trains have now ran on the T4 line
Yes I saw one once! It ran from one of the Central terminating platforms to Hurstville. It was on an industrial action day. I wish I'd gone on it now!
The
V sets are my most favourite electric train to travel on. I can remember when there was a carriage where you could smoke. Drinking water dispensers inside the carriage doors. I really hope these very comfortable trains aren't taken off their roads of destinations. Having free travel on public transport just recently, has made a great impact on more commuters traveling. So don't take the V sets out of service.
Yes the V sets are very comfortable and with all the issues with the Mariyung trains, it looks like they were will be around for another year or two.
I catch v set to school and home and I found it scary to open doors and get off the first few times
@@TransportVlog Mariyung D Sets Are My Favourite Train In Sydney.
For me, never liked the K sets. Not a single bit. Therefore I really look forward for them to get replaced.
The NIF sets are vstill not yet in service, yet they have attracted a heap of criticism from both train crew and passengers (or "customers" as Transport 4 NSW calls them). Train crews not happy with plans to make them driver only, no guard, which is a stupid idea on lines with numerous unstaffed stations, as the Newcastle, Kiama and Blue Mountains lines are.
Passengers VERY unhappy with the non-reversible seating, with Transport4 NSW cardiganmen and Transport Minister Constance ignoring all complaints and not responding to the. Still, it's an ill wind which blows nobody any good; when rail bureaucrats stop listening to "customers" a change of government follows not long after.
Hold up a Second, Tangara is not only the Aboriginal Word, I remember it was Japanese because, Tangara was Design by Japanese Company.
The Tangara name is of Aboriginal origin, meaning "to go"
I haven't seen anything that indicates that the Tangara was a Japanese design,
BUT it does have Japanese technology (by Mitsubishi), so it would make sense if they played a roll in the design from a technology point of view.
From memory a fair amount of things were tested on the "C sets" (like the chopper motors), things that worked were carried on into the Tangara, things that didn't... well were not.
The 6 tracks at Petersham are the UP and DOWN Main, Up and Down suburban and Up and Down local, Faster trains will use the Up and Down suburban and Main, Local services will use the Up and Down Local line
Thanks! yes I'm aware of the correct names now!
@@TransportVlog I did some digging around the internet and found accurate track diagrams for the track between Strathfield and Central
Series 1 and Series 2 B1 to B24 is the S set Up Replacement
yes that's right
Why does the T4 line run exclusively of t sets?
Good question! - I think it's to do with the power supply on the Illawarra Line. The Waratah trains require more power. It would be really good to see Waratah trains on this line, so hopefully this will happen, when the power supply is upgraded.
Good video 📹
Thanks! 😃
thank you :)
You're welcome!
A sets replaced 498 S-set cars.