I still cannot fathom who thought letting Mel, a pregnant woman, go to a dangerous mission was a good idea. It's the post-apocalypse, pregnant women would be protected and under constant surveillance to ensure their survival and that of the baby.
They were doing a standard base transfer - Mel was a medic, not a fighter. She was going to be treating wounded at the other base and was not meant to be in the line of action. Their group was unexpectedly ambushed in what was considered their own territory.
Facts she should not be there if they going to do that in the series where they say the mel is going to stay back okay no pregnant woman should go to a Goddamn War maybe stop at serial killer that's different the creators was sniffing some good drugs when they made this game🤔😎
Also medically its a fungal disease. Most if not all fungal diseases dont have vaccines because you dont need one for fungal infections. Aka why you can take a cream for althetes foot
@@mediaking9830 yes i agree, the world is fucked anyway. Joel did the selfish thing, that's unarguable, but it IS a selfish world. There wasn't a guarantee there would be a cure. He probably knew that even if the infection is no more, people will still kill each other for things like supplies and basically supremacy. That's just the new normal, because this infection actually gives these bad people freedom to do whatever they want. But what do I know, that's just how I see it
@@abird9387 not only that but if the fireflies couldn't transport ellie all the way to their base how the hell could they distribute a whole vaccine across the entire country
souls borne neither did Abby when she was clubbing Joel to death slowly. Glad Ellie didn’t kill her at the end so she has to suffer with all her friends and family gone for the most part tbh.
@@soulsborne8292 So you mean to say that Abby deserves to be happy and perfect. After Joel had a knife pulled on him by her father, meaning that he initiated the attack, just saying. Also not only did her only real father figure die in front of her, one of her close friends also died in front of her and her father's brother also almost died in front of her. But yes Abby deserves to be happy and we should feel bad for her.
I know, its savage she wants abbie to be alive yet be so emotionally scared to the point she wont have much close friends. Ellie didn't kill abbie because she wanted her to suffer more, she had already killed everybody apart from level and abbie most likely wouldve died or suffered fatal injuries from the ending because she got sliced up and stabbed in the chest and arm
Bro you should play the game first because Abby was also right at his place but we also miss Joel but you even know how much people family are ruin by Joel that's why she let her go idiot
Hold up so Ellie going killing many other SCAR,WLF and many other and thinking killing Abby was wrong? Yea I know they're just NPC but who know what Neil Druckman gonna planning next
I really want to see a scene where Ellie bites off a part of abbys neck and then let’s a clicker take a bite of her too and they just trade off until she’s dead
Welp since a year passed and the guy I made a comment about dipped, I will just simply rewrite my comment. The entire story's writing is the worst I've ever witnessed. This atrocity is a clusterfuck of its own. Joel's death was terribly handled and how he fell for Abby's trap and told their names to them was very out of character. The cycle of "revenge bad, kill all, not killing bad one in the first place, whoopsies, cry" is the most braindead crap ever. A dozen videos are proving how horrendous the story is from a writer's perspective and every stupid decision so just simply watch those and argue there. Now keep crying bozos and tell me how the story is a masterpiece, I'll wait.💀 Edit: 306 likes!? Dayum, you panty-pissers down there are quite in the wrong, huh? 😭😭😭
@@brightbeyonddarkness abby bit ellie's fingers off because ellie wanted her to fight did u pay attention to the game? y'all act like abby is the bad guy when in reality they all are. that's the point of the game, to show that the hero of someone's story can be the villain of someone else's. i think in the end ellie didn't kill abby because she found herself in lev since abby became kind of family to him, the joel to lev's ellie.
Man the way jesse went out is so annoying and stupid. He was such a great character and had alot of potential but nope the writers said : let him die by stupidly rushing to the scene then he gets shot in the face
@@vicentemadrid3489 it is tho. Story wise its absolutely shit and if you dont agree with that statement theres a problem with your brain. I mean you killed thousands of people so you can get your hands on the women who called a guy who was like a father figure to you just so you can spare her just because of that revenge is not good bullshit.
I hate Nora the most. Abby atleast had a good reason to kill Joel and her story atleast made her a decent character and quite human. Nora just insulted Joel for sadistic pleasure and ran away. They should have shown Ellie trashing her with that rod more.
Abby had a very bad reason to kill Joel. Just because the ends justify the means doesn't make the means any less murder, and Abby and her father should have known that when Joel stopped them from murdering Ellie. It was fair play from the start.
I still have no sympathy for Abby. Her dad was a nobody who stupidly decided to threaten a guy with all types of guns knowing his exact intentions. There’s just a lot of things that don’t make sense here but regardless Nora definitely deserved that especially for disrespecting Joel like that
C C Abby is relatable because after being saved by the guy she vowed revenge against for killing her dad, she ties his leg up to stop him from bleeding out to torture him. Then, she tries to stay on the moral high ground by not killing Ellie and Tommy. How admirable and Oh so relatable!
Why they didn't make a prequel in which Tess is the main protagonist to explain the time when she met Joel to the time they became an inseperable couple to the time she and Joel met Ellie and lastly was her sacrifice to buy time for Joel and Ellie. That would be a much better and more emotional story than the story of some random character named Abby.
Exactly some people actually for some reason likes abby even tho her character development was poorly done besides the parts where the game manipulates u into thinking abby is by having her help dog and kids when you play as her and when youre ellie it's the complete opposite ,its a revenge story but only it wasn't even done right.
@@Dav-zy1dw woah woah woah! No offense for the actors and girls who are buff but I think I would title Abby as Man Girl because she has the buff arms and body of a man and a head of a girl.
@@art3misxp784 he just wanted to survive and protect Ellie who was about to be killed by Abby's dad who also threatened Joel with a scalpel. He was in the right the whole time except maybe killing Marlene
@@diknmuhbutt2735 Yes, you are so right. How dare a man prevent the end of a deadly fungal plague to save an annoying ass selfish ungrateful child that is going to die of age eventually anyways. Honestly how wrong I’ve been this whole time. 😩✋
Regardless of whatever amount of time they had you play as Abby I feel /zero/ remorse for her and her friends. When you take vengeance like that on somebody, especially when it does nothing but make you feel better for a very short while, you've no right to act surprised, saddened or sickened when the people you care about start dying around you. You did this to yourself.
@@kinoate he didn’t kill them for his satisfaction, he just wanted to protect Ellie against his better judgement. 20 years of being accustomed to killing, why throw that out the window especially when it involves a loved one potentially dying.
@@makayla1223 But that's the whole point of the game, you don't see a problem with Joel killing millions because "he is accustomed to killing", but when Abby try to revenge her father she's the wrong one? How is Abby worst then Joel in any away??? She just kill Joel, she let ellie live because her problems are with Joel, not Ellie, how is she a bad person for that
@@makayla1223 People just hate Abby because they follow Joel /Ellie perspective through the first game, because if they have followed Abby's, they were probably gonna hate Ellie for all TLOU2, that's liteethe meaning of being of empathy
The only persons death that was sad except Joel's was mel's death. She was pregnant and imagine dying like that... what makes it even more sad is that ellie didnt even know
@@TheMinipily Nah that was on Mel cause she would have lived if she didn't try to kill Ellie, Besides all she had to do was tell Ellie that she was pregnant and ellie would have let her live considering she's carrying an innocent child in her womb
Owen got them all killed because he still had feelings for Abby. Mel hated Abby and was going to give away her position, but noooo, owen had to lunge at Ellie.
And he doesn't even say mels pregnant till after he and she are on the floor because his character made a stupid 720 for a piece of shit ruthless bandit instead of the mother of his child.
@@red_guy123 i didnt initially, but when i played it thoroughly, i noticed that this game COULD have been one of the goats with the exact same story, you just weak the placement. Abby *IS* a better character than ellie. The analysis has Abby's character shows that killing Joel was her "horrible villain" act, but Joel deserved it. Where the writers were wrong was making joel and tommy so trusting of that group. So Abby is a character set on revenge, then goes back to her life, and hates Scars, but then ends up helping scars and turning on her WLF, so her character is better. Ellie? They went OUT of their way to make you hate Ellie. She isnt the cute tween she was in the first making dad jokes, she is a stereotypical, bitter, angry lesbian. She is pissed off at the world, like most lesbians, confrontational, like most lesbians, in your face and a permanent chip on her shoulder, like most lesbians. She loses everything she has/had on this revenge ride, she kills dogs, she kills people with nothing to do with this, she has a body count in the 100s but cant kill abby. This game was GREAT from a gameplay angle, a visual angle, but the narrative was GODAWFUL
The chase sequence with nora was one of my favorite parts of the game. Along with the bridge scene wirh abby, the rat king. The scene where ellie and jesse escape in that truck was so fucking cool.
Matthew Hill Except Deadpool killed, like, 50 people during his search, and more random than these. And he didn’t lose his humanity during the mission like Ellie did.
They all got what they deserved. “Don’t start a war you can’t win” and the only reason Abby survived was because of Ellie’s notion to forgive. Like many, I don’t agree with the outcome of Ellie’s story but she chose what she believed to be right. Just like Joel did for her.
took her pretty long to forgive though. i mean she already murdered all abbys friends might as well get the job done you, she came this far. she should have killed lev too cause why not
shes siding with abby so she must die. she would prolly come back for revenge or some shit. so it would be best to kill her at the last battle after abby is taken care of.
I Think it’s an evolution the way boto of characters didn’t kill each other because they knew the things won’t go back Jerry and Joel won’t revive killing Abby or ellie that’s what i think, u May think am an asshole but are only opinions
So it okay for Ellie to get revenge but not her. Yeah I think it sucks how joel died he didn't deserve to go out like that, but you know what, if someone killed my father no telling what I would do.
Wait so she shot Joel's leg with a shotgun and bashed his skull with no remorse but vomits when there is a bullet hole thats barely visible with his clothes on. Ah yes the logic.
In Manhunt 2, you have two personalities, in the secret ending you are inside your head as the killer personality to kill your good one. That game was on the fucking Wii, and it was good.
You know what is my favorite part in avengers infinity war.... When thanos found all the infinity stones and he didn't snap and then he said i am sorry 😂😂 and he escaped
I think developers should have addded the option to either kill her or let her get away. People would've been so much pleased if that was an option in this game, overall this game has a good following up story. There were no good sides in this game, Joel killed many people and some time he was gonna have to pay back.
@@princeecho8317 I swear do you people know what a character arc is? Even in the Kratos example at the end of the 2018 game he wanted to leave and walkaway, the only reason he killed Buldr was because he saw that as him ending a cycle of parent/child revenge
except it doesn't make sense here. Joel made sure the two person couldn't see where each other pointed. This one, they are literally both staring at the map.
I think I sorta understand Abby's motivation now, although I still hate her as a character. Her rage led her to kill Joel, but it also indirectly cost all of her friends their lives. Good enough story overall for a standalone game, but it was a major mistake for a sequel, killing off a beloved character right off the bat, whom people had expected and were excited to play with. This plot doesn't work as a sequel. It hurts the continuity and consistency.
@@Scarcenico Joel is absolutely a beloved person, what are you smoking? One of the single biggest reasons the second game is so massively hated by the average gamer is because of how it treats one of the best video game characters of all time. What's the point of lying like this?
@AttackMaster he is a GREAT character. Calling him beloved is not the right word to use. It's like saying "oh he did nothing wrong" when the final act of the first game is supposed to be sad, since he let the world stay the same instead of saving it. He is a WELL WRITTEN character, but let's not act like he did nothing wrong.
I know this comment is old but dont forget that the outcome wasnt even guaranteed. They stated that there was a possibility Ellie could have died for nothing and the cure wouldn't have worked. @nicolasturrubiartez9708
Honestly, idk how to feel about the characters. Ellie WANTED her life to mean something, Joel took it away, for selfish reasons, and killing fireflies, and the only doctor that could make a vaccine. But Abby didn't understand the situation (well, didn't know) and took the time to find Joel and torture him to death. Ellie kills pretty much all her friends, but let's Abby go. Abby only has Lev now. And Ellie doesn't have anyone. I want to hate Abby, but she had a reason. Hell, Ellie did the same thing Abby did. Revenge. (Didn't really get it, but still). It's so hard to just, feel like one of the characters are better than the other. I do feel like this should have been written completely differently.
If it makes you feel any better Ellie still has Dina, at the end in California Ellie isn't wearing Dina's bracelet but when she gets back to Wyoming you can notice it on her wrist again
When she's legit jumping with abby and hits her belly a lot, how the fuck did she not miscarriage when most minor labor and stress can make you lose a baby? Fucking "realistic"game acting like baby bellies made of stone.
Imagine Ellie having an axe as a weapon to kill but before that they locked the door and Ellie just bust down the door with the axe saying "Here's Ellie!" In a horrifing way possible.
The main problem I have with the ending of this game is that I feel it's not realistic at all, I don't think I've talked about it with a single person that didn't agree they would kill her, especially after already killing so much people, in an apocalyptic environment.
@@teenybopper2352 lol even if the vaccine was made (high chance it wouldnt) it would still be useless. The world is in absolutely chaos both by infectates and humans, people would probally not even believe on it.
@@METALLICARULES11he was responsible for dooming many. Ellie was immune, and a cure very well could have been made. He instead chose to take Ellie to some community and lie to her, instead of telling the truth.
"You guys can survive this I just need her." "Bullshit" Well Owen you kinda brought it on yourself you are actually the reason why Mel and the baby are DEAD.
I never understood why Ellie just goes straight to Mel's body after Owen tells her "She's..." to check and discovers she's pregnant, she had no reason to go "No, no, no" and see her. There is literally nothing that could tell her that she's pregnant, she could have just ignored her corpse an keep going, also managing to don't forget the map.
People say that she killed everyone but not abby and i understand that because while she was killing everyone she had people that cared about her and had her back but at the end of the game she understands that abby had a reason and that killing her wouldn't bring joel back and it wouldn't make things better, she end up alone just like she was so afraid to end up
Here's the irony, if the last of us pt 1 started from Abbys chapter (her in the woods with her dad and the zebra), and we followed her journey to killing Joel, you be saying quite the opposite. Celebrating Abbys victory. Then if part 2 came out and you start the game with your friends being hunted by Ellie and you had to suddenly play as Ellie doing the killing...guess what you'd be saying the exact....same....thing! Joel doomed the world for a sacrifice Ellie would have wanted to do. The fact this will be forever debated though is why this is a masterpiece of storytelling. It will never be agreed upon because that is just human nature. We ultimately only care for our own bubble
They tried making Ellie seem like the bad person but in reality most of her kills were self defense. Like Jesse didn’t get a chance to aim at Abby sheesh.
And ellie only killed mel because she charged at her and her and owens dumb ass didnt even think to say she was pregnant until after mel was dead and owen dying on the floor, pretty stupid plot point to make ellie look bad, yet abby was about to take pleasure in killing dinah knowing she was pregnant. But nah, clearly deluded psychopathic blood thirsty bandit abby was the victim of everything even though she started everything and was willing to compromise her friends lives earlier by razing a peaceful community to lure out joel, real saint indeed.
A whole lot of people don’t get that Abby lost literally everyone except lev. If you hate the game because Ellie let Abby live just remember that Abby would live a life in absolute misery and pain with no one to confide in except lev and both of them are emotionally shocked and broken. Ellie didn’t give them mercy. But no avoid all that and complain about Joel (a 56 year old) dying in an apocalyptic scenario.
Man ya know the ending to this game takes me back to Metal gear rising revengeance the final boss, the boss theme explains how they aren’t different in too many ways, they both lost everything, and so many have perished for nothing.
It’s so cool. Whilst ellie is talking to Nora in the spores. You can hear the ratking roaring in the background. Referencing Abby is still in the building
Jewel taking a nap after Golf it’s literally the only time Ellie will kill Abby, and honestly I’d probably just turn off the game after that and be happy with it
Ellie: *Kills infected and anybody who gets in her way and hurts people who killed her loved ones* Me: *too afraid to off the lights in my room because ill have to run in the dark*
Abby: You took everything from me!
Joel: I don't even know who you are.
Best Comment
Abby: You killed my father!
Joel: Do you have any idea how little that narrows it down?
When she said "Guess"
You could see he had no fucking idea who she was lmao
Don’t worry You will
Abby and her golf stick : YOU WILL!!
I still cannot fathom who thought letting Mel, a pregnant woman, go to a dangerous mission was a good idea.
It's the post-apocalypse, pregnant women would be protected and under constant surveillance to ensure their survival and that of the baby.
Literally. Even a 10 year old would have been a better option
They were doing a standard base transfer - Mel was a medic, not a fighter. She was going to be treating wounded at the other base and was not meant to be in the line of action. Their group was unexpectedly ambushed in what was considered their own territory.
Same with Dina going with Ellie knowing she was pregnant
@@salvadordeleon273 Exactly! No post-apocalyptic society would allow such a thing!
Facts she should not be there if they going to do that in the series where they say the mel is going to stay back okay no pregnant woman should go to a Goddamn War maybe stop at serial killer that's different the creators was sniffing some good drugs when they made this game🤔😎
I hate that they never addressed that the vaccine would be completely, and practically useless.
How so?
RatBasher58 the world is in shambles, no one has control on what people will believe and no one has power to do so. People can’t come together again.
Also medically its a fungal disease. Most if not all fungal diseases dont have vaccines because you dont need one for fungal infections. Aka why you can take a cream for althetes foot
@@mediaking9830 yes i agree, the world is fucked anyway.
Joel did the selfish thing, that's unarguable, but it IS a selfish world. There wasn't a guarantee there would be a cure. He probably knew that even if the infection is no more, people will still kill each other for things like supplies and basically supremacy. That's just the new normal, because this infection actually gives these bad people freedom to do whatever they want.
But what do I know, that's just how I see it
@@abird9387 not only that but if the fireflies couldn't transport ellie all the way to their base how the hell could they distribute a whole vaccine across the entire country
*Making Abby get killed by ellie* Everyone: “I see this as a complete win!”
Sounds like virgin talk to me
jk,relax
I like Abby
i also see this as a complete win ( ✌︎'ω')✌︎
DeeJD weirdo.
All this for it to end with "just take him and go"
17:03 screen fades to black aaaaand: *credits rolls*
PERFECT ENDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's canon for me
Game of the century at this point...
Sundot Jolangot man I hope that’s sarcasm
18:59
Cesar Hernandez yup 👍
They were this close to greatness.
abbys friends are murdered and she suffers
me: i see this as an absolute win
Mytty Dohun agreed fine sir
Then you don't have any sort of emotions
souls borne neither did Abby when she was clubbing Joel to death slowly. Glad Ellie didn’t kill her at the end so she has to suffer with all her friends and family gone for the most part tbh.
@@soulsborne8292 So you mean to say that Abby deserves to be happy and perfect. After Joel had a knife pulled on him by her father, meaning that he initiated the attack, just saying. Also not only did her only real father figure die in front of her, one of her close friends also died in front of her and her father's brother also almost died in front of her. But yes Abby deserves to be happy and we should feel bad for her.
Atleast Abby has Lev not like Ellie who lost everything
Ellie killed every frickin person except the one she was trying to kill..... lmao😂😂😂 this girl a savage
*idiot
I would rather say stupid.
I know, its savage she wants abbie to be alive yet be so emotionally scared to the point she wont have much close friends. Ellie didn't kill abbie because she wanted her to suffer more, she had already killed everybody apart from level and abbie most likely wouldve died or suffered fatal injuries from the ending because she got sliced up and stabbed in the chest and arm
Bro you should play the game first because Abby was also right at his place but we also miss Joel but you even know how much people family are ruin by Joel that's why she let her go idiot
Hold up so Ellie going killing many other SCAR,WLF and many other and thinking killing Abby was wrong?
Yea I know they're just NPC but who know what Neil Druckman gonna planning next
i really just wanna see a scene where ellie snaps abby"s neck.
I really want to see a scene where Ellie bites off a part of abbys neck and then let’s a clicker take a bite of her too and they just trade off until she’s dead
ellie and abby are both villains
Another 1 bit team Ellie dinosaur, hello buddy.
Did you not understand the game?
Did you not understand the game?
Why does “Abby” look like spongebob when he went to muscle beach
Lmfao that’s what I was thinking thinking this whole time. And the ending Abby looks like spongebob when his muscles are deflated
@Nghị Quang they are referring to spongebob as he. Not Abby.
Abby is a boy look at muscles wtf
Avenis IKR!
It’s legit is like Chris Redfield! It’s gonna continue the Redfield linage!
Time to let Chris know he can stop asking Leon.
Imagine killing everyone except Abby, the one that killed Joel and being targetted.
I mean how would you feel if everyone you loved and cared for was murdered. I think it was an eye for an eye
Welp since a year passed and the guy I made a comment about dipped, I will just simply rewrite my comment. The entire story's writing is the worst I've ever witnessed. This atrocity is a clusterfuck of its own. Joel's death was terribly handled and how he fell for Abby's trap and told their names to them was very out of character. The cycle of "revenge bad, kill all, not killing bad one in the first place, whoopsies, cry" is the most braindead crap ever. A dozen videos are proving how horrendous the story is from a writer's perspective and every stupid decision so just simply watch those and argue there. Now keep crying bozos and tell me how the story is a masterpiece, I'll wait.💀
Edit: 306 likes!? Dayum, you panty-pissers down there are quite in the wrong, huh? 😭😭😭
@@brightbeyonddarkness Most people in TLOU universe are shitty people. That includes Joel and Ellie too
@@brightbeyonddarkness abby bit ellie's fingers off because ellie wanted her to fight did u pay attention to the game? y'all act like abby is the bad guy when in reality they all are. that's the point of the game, to show that the hero of someone's story can be the villain of someone else's. i think in the end ellie didn't kill abby because she found herself in lev since abby became kind of family to him, the joel to lev's ellie.
da tré I did and yet Ellie let Abby leave out of remorse... that’s really some gay-ass writing.
Man the way jesse went out is so annoying and stupid. He was such a great character and had alot of potential but nope the writers said : let him die by stupidly rushing to the scene then he gets shot in the face
dude it shocked me i didn’t know how to react it was so fast
Yo stop crying everyone died so fast, stop looking for arguments to say that the game is shit
And Ellie doesn't even react on that!
visho2017 bro your comment is irrelevant lol
@@vicentemadrid3489 it is tho. Story wise its absolutely shit and if you dont agree with that statement theres a problem with your brain. I mean you killed thousands of people so you can get your hands on the women who called a guy who was like a father figure to you just so you can spare her just because of that revenge is not good bullshit.
I hate Nora the most. Abby atleast had a good reason to kill Joel and her story atleast made her a decent character and quite human. Nora just insulted Joel for sadistic pleasure and ran away. They should have shown Ellie trashing her with that rod more.
Well to be fair she was only one that truly suffered, the rest got pretty deaths lmao
Abby had a very bad reason to kill Joel. Just because the ends justify the means doesn't make the means any less murder, and Abby and her father should have known that when Joel stopped them from murdering Ellie. It was fair play from the start.
@@CC-oi8gr yeah, you ready to kill people but not ready for the revenge wtf
I still have no sympathy for Abby. Her dad was a nobody who stupidly decided to threaten a guy with all types of guns knowing his exact intentions. There’s just a lot of things that don’t make sense here but regardless Nora definitely deserved that especially for disrespecting Joel like that
C C Abby is relatable because after being saved by the guy she vowed revenge against for killing her dad, she ties his leg up to stop him from bleeding out to torture him. Then, she tries to stay on the moral high ground by not killing Ellie and Tommy. How admirable and Oh so relatable!
Why they didn't make a prequel in which Tess is the main protagonist to explain the time when she met Joel to the time they became an inseperable couple to the time she and Joel met Ellie and lastly was her sacrifice to buy time for Joel and Ellie. That would be a much better and more emotional story than the story of some random character named Abby.
Exactly some people actually for some reason likes abby even tho her character development was poorly done besides the parts where the game manipulates u into thinking abby is by having her help dog and kids when you play as her and when youre ellie it's the complete opposite ,its a revenge story but only it wasn't even done right.
Finally someone talked about tess..
Legit question:
Why do you want to change the plot so much?
Or a prequel of Joel being with the hunters, why he left and how he went from Austin, Tx to Boston within a time period of 20 years. Would be great
@@ismolboii2511 because it's what they want and that's what appeals to them? i think that's pretty obvious.
2:37 best moment, when Ellie finally took advantage of her immunity.
This gave a great big smile when I saw the red light.
I actually wanted Ellie to leave Abby to a bunch of Clickers. Perfect end for the worst character ever.
But Neil Druckman doesn't want his buff waifu Abby to die though
@@Dav-zy1dw woah woah woah! No offense for the actors and girls who are buff but I think I would title Abby as Man Girl because she has the buff arms and body of a man and a head of a girl.
Stop being a crybaby
@@angelvillarreal1738 True
@@angelvillarreal1738 No I mean I'm acknowledging your point
8:45 she got a triple kill rigt there lol
This comment should be higher at com sec
At least credit the original creator mate
Nothing aa. It is.
UAV READY FOR DEPLOYMENT
Your next line is
"Not funny"
"Underrated"
2:22 Ellie should've used deadeye.
She just needed some goddamn faith!
Don't worry, Dutch has a plan
did u kill micah yet?
@The rude Potato chip AND SOME MUNEH
Thanks Arthur Morgan, Very Cool!
naughtydog really just spent 6 years on a april fools joke
They spent longer on this trash than Ruin did on the Last Jedi. Unreal!
Such dedication
Yessir
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I'm enjoying this every last fucking moment of it
Abby: cries Me: This does put a smile on my face
Fax
I was rooting for Ellie the whole time no matter how bad the story made her appear these guys deserve the worst for what they did to Joel
But Joel doesn’t deserve the worst for what he did to humanity? Yeah ok hypocrite
@@art3misxp784 he just wanted to survive and protect Ellie who was about to be killed by Abby's dad who also threatened Joel with a scalpel. He was in the right the whole time except maybe killing Marlene
@@art3misxp784 Does being a father deserve that punishment?
@@T3AMKILL if being a father means fucking over the whole human race because you want to save a child that isn’t even yours then yes
@@diknmuhbutt2735 Yes, you are so right. How dare a man prevent the end of a deadly fungal plague to save an annoying ass selfish ungrateful child that is going to die of age eventually anyways. Honestly how wrong I’ve been this whole time. 😩✋
Regardless of whatever amount of time they had you play as Abby I feel /zero/ remorse for her and her friends. When you take vengeance like that on somebody, especially when it does nothing but make you feel better for a very short while, you've no right to act surprised, saddened or sickened when the people you care about start dying around you. You did this to yourself.
As did Joel for all of the countless onno ents he slaughtered for his own personal satisfaction
@@kinoate he didn’t kill them for his satisfaction, he just wanted to protect Ellie against his better judgement. 20 years of being accustomed to killing, why throw that out the window especially when it involves a loved one potentially dying.
@@makayla1223 But that's the whole point of the game, you don't see a problem with Joel killing millions because "he is accustomed to killing", but when Abby try to revenge her father she's the wrong one?
How is Abby worst then Joel in any away??? She just kill Joel, she let ellie live because her problems are with Joel, not Ellie, how is she a bad person for that
@@makayla1223 People just hate Abby because they follow Joel /Ellie perspective through the first game, because if they have followed Abby's, they were probably gonna hate Ellie for all TLOU2, that's liteethe meaning of being of empathy
@@sthepcorms6747 I never mentioned Abby
5:00 “How many people are dead because of him?!” How about how many wolves members are dead because of you?!
Favorite parts is watching Abby suffer. It always warms my heart ☺️
Even the game said "dont attack ellie head on"😂😂😂 they know whats up
Abby: You took everything from me!
Me: Lady your father was a fucking NPC
The only persons death that was sad except Joel's was mel's death. She was pregnant and imagine dying like that... what makes it even more sad is that ellie didnt even know
Really starts to show when Ellie was just losing her humanity over this revenge mission.
@@TheMinipily Nah that was on Mel cause she would have lived if she didn't try to kill Ellie, Besides all she had to do was tell Ellie that she was pregnant and ellie would have let her live considering she's carrying an innocent child in her womb
@@_simpforjiroukyouka_7493 Whether it was her fault or not, it still doesn't stray from the fact that Ellie was starting to lose the plot.
Mel's being pregnant makes her death more enjoyable cuz you know that she is afraid to die, not for her but for her son
I mean if she was pregnant why she involve in Joel death I mean she can just go away or be in another place
The way Ellie cocked the shotgun and shot was legendary
Owen got them all killed because he still had feelings for Abby. Mel hated Abby and was going to give away her position, but noooo, owen had to lunge at Ellie.
And he doesn't even say mels pregnant till after he and she are on the floor because his character made a stupid 720 for a piece of shit ruthless bandit instead of the mother of his child.
The top reason to hate Abby:
*she exists*
Fax
Your level of knowledge scares me.
Lets send her to the gulag!!!!!
@@justsomeguy8103 #wehateabby
when i play the game with abby i just let her die for fun
18:58 is best ending yet.
No , she dies to fast
Selene Dominguez Who care, atleast she still died :)
Giao Lam why do you want her to die
@@sterloan3737 why do you want her to live
Cx I like her better
Jesse got headshot once and flops on the floor
Joel, Tommy , Ellie: first time huh
What I hate about this game is that it tries to make you feel sorry for Abby and the others but the fact is THEY DON'T MATTER.
Don't worry I'm pretty sure almost everybody felt no remorse for them cuz I didn't.
@@red_guy123 i didnt initially, but when i played it thoroughly, i noticed that this game COULD have been one of the goats with the exact same story, you just weak the placement. Abby *IS* a better character than ellie. The analysis has Abby's character shows that killing Joel was her "horrible villain" act, but Joel deserved it. Where the writers were wrong was making joel and tommy so trusting of that group. So Abby is a character set on revenge, then goes back to her life, and hates Scars, but then ends up helping scars and turning on her WLF, so her character is better. Ellie? They went OUT of their way to make you hate Ellie. She isnt the cute tween she was in the first making dad jokes, she is a stereotypical, bitter, angry lesbian. She is pissed off at the world, like most lesbians, confrontational, like most lesbians, in your face and a permanent chip on her shoulder, like most lesbians. She loses everything she has/had on this revenge ride, she kills dogs, she kills people with nothing to do with this, she has a body count in the 100s but cant kill abby. This game was GREAT from a gameplay angle, a visual angle, but the narrative was GODAWFUL
The chase sequence with nora was one of my favorite parts of the game. Along with the bridge scene wirh abby, the rat king. The scene where ellie and jesse escape in that truck was so fucking cool.
Cool
You know the one section in the first Deadpool movie were he’s looking for Francis, it’s a video game now
Matthew Hill Except Deadpool killed, like, 50 people during his search, and more random than these. And he didn’t lose his humanity during the mission like Ellie did.
Ellie would've left them alone if they had mentioned from the beginning that shes pregnant
They all got what they deserved.
“Don’t start a war you can’t win” and the only reason Abby survived was because of Ellie’s notion to forgive. Like many, I don’t agree with the outcome of Ellie’s story but she chose what she believed to be right. Just like Joel did for her.
took her pretty long to forgive though. i mean she already murdered all abbys friends might as well get the job done you, she came this far. she should have killed lev too cause why not
oh shit ths was 2 years ago im late af
@@Grunt-mu8dw why does Lev have to pay?
shes siding with abby so she must die. she would prolly come back for revenge or some shit. so it would be best to kill her at the last battle after abby is taken care of.
@@Grunt-mu8dw Seek a Therapist
I'm gonna pretend Abby didn't exist
Or TLOU2 never existed (?
This entire game is not real, just a million dollar fanfic.
I Think it’s an evolution the way boto of characters didn’t kill each other because they knew the things won’t go back Jerry and Joel won’t revive killing Abby or ellie that’s what i think, u May think am an asshole but are only opinions
And Joel gets killed by a possessed floating golf club. I don't why but just imagining that makes the scene more ridiculous and hilarious than tragic
So it okay for Ellie to get revenge but not her. Yeah I think it sucks how joel died he didn't deserve to go out like that, but you know what, if someone killed my father no telling what I would do.
Wait so she shot Joel's leg with a shotgun and bashed his skull with no remorse but vomits when there is a bullet hole thats barely visible with his clothes on.
Ah yes the logic.
Ah yes, the air is made out of air
I think it was more of an emotional/grieving reaction
She didn't care about joel but she cared about these people
When you play as Abby and you gave to hunt Ellie it's like hunting yourself. Dumb concept
Good concept, really really poor execution.
u cant change
In Manhunt 2, you have two personalities, in the secret ending you are inside your head as the killer personality to kill your good one. That game was on the fucking Wii, and it was good.
Not really, other games have u play as the "villain" of the story were u fight against the "hero"
I have to disagree with that as it's a pretty good idea then again it's all about how you do it
You know what is my favorite part in avengers infinity war.... When thanos found all the infinity stones and he didn't snap and then he said i am sorry 😂😂 and he escaped
Not the best comparison. More like if Thor didnt cut his head off
Yes the avengers find Thanos and then they say. Sorry you can eat your soup
The only one I really feel bad for is Owen. He was trying to do the right thing from the start.
I felt bad for him too, but nobody seems to care about him.
@@isaaczaiek487yeah 😔
He was so good he abandoned Mel while pregnant and still has the audacity to show he still loves Abby
how the fuck is that the right thing?
Ellie: I’ll kill every last one of them,
Palpatine: Dew it, show no mercy!
nora: im not giving up my friend.
what ellie shouldve said: and joel wasnt giving up another daughter.
"A Satisfying Video" is an alternative title.
love how abby didnt even care about mel bein dead
Lol no she had the exact same reaction as ellie
@@lississeoh6949 She had that reaction when she saw Owen not Mel. 😂
Yeah cuz I don't think Abby liked Mel anymore or she never liked Mel
She does care. That's why she was willing to kill pregnant Dina.
@@bjakeijzer i think he says that because she don't even look at Mel
9:54 see abby this is how you made Ellie feel.
Worst, she destroyed Joel face and Ellie had to see it
I think developers should have addded the option to either kill her or let her get away. People would've been so much pleased if that was an option in this game, overall this game has a good following up story. There were no good sides in this game, Joel killed many people and some time he was gonna have to pay back.
Ellie somehow found everybody else and kept asking them where Abby was just to do absolutely nothing when she finally finds Abby. Pathetic
Worst, she even SAVE her.
After killing hundreds of peoples !
@@dvakhiin8748 yeah it’s crazy wtf
Imagine Kratos killed all the gods except Zeus 🤦
@@reven06 Right?! That would be insane
@@princeecho8317 I swear do you people know what a character arc is? Even in the Kratos example at the end of the 2018 game he wanted to leave and walkaway, the only reason he killed Buldr was because he saw that as him ending a cycle of parent/child revenge
Abby is the only character who doesn't make the players rage quit when they die as her :)
Love seeing Abby suffer amongst her deceased friends
Man Abby is one buff woman how she get all the protein-
steroids
Yeah protein from vitamin D
Her hand's bigger than my hand XD
She took all of that "Vitamin D"
Them noodlea
No one noticed how Ellie did the same thing with the map Joel did in winter? The “it better match” thing.
Only the real ones noticed! 👍🏻👍🏻
except it doesn't make sense here. Joel made sure the two person couldn't see where each other pointed. This one, they are literally both staring at the map.
yessur!
They mention this on Seattle day 1
18:58 THE BEST END FOREVER
i hate ellie cuz she killed all
Me: sees abby in the thumbnail
Also me: dont do that dont give me hope
I think I sorta understand Abby's motivation now, although I still hate her as a character. Her rage led her to kill Joel, but it also indirectly cost all of her friends their lives. Good enough story overall for a standalone game, but it was a major mistake for a sequel, killing off a beloved character right off the bat, whom people had expected and were excited to play with. This plot doesn't work as a sequel. It hurts the continuity and consistency.
Joel is not a beloved character, winnie-the-pooh is, Joel is a psychotic person who just didn't wanna lose another daughter
@@Scarcenico Joel is absolutely a beloved person, what are you smoking? One of the single biggest reasons the second game is so massively hated by the average gamer is because of how it treats one of the best video game characters of all time.
What's the point of lying like this?
@AttackMaster he is a GREAT character. Calling him beloved is not the right word to use. It's like saying "oh he did nothing wrong" when the final act of the first game is supposed to be sad, since he let the world stay the same instead of saving it. He is a WELL WRITTEN character, but let's not act like he did nothing wrong.
I know this comment is old but dont forget that the outcome wasnt even guaranteed. They stated that there was a possibility Ellie could have died for nothing and the cure wouldn't have worked. @nicolasturrubiartez9708
@tarikay93 and to make matters worse, they make you play as the character that kills Joel LOL unbelievable
This game gives me the "Tomb Raider" vibe
and bringing Crows Zero 2 as an easter egg
The real lara croft would of killed them all long time ago 😂
You forgot Rockstar Games Manhunt vibe
True
Well naughty dog did make the uncharted series
Honestly, idk how to feel about the characters. Ellie WANTED her life to mean something, Joel took it away, for selfish reasons, and killing fireflies, and the only doctor that could make a vaccine. But Abby didn't understand the situation (well, didn't know) and took the time to find Joel and torture him to death. Ellie kills pretty much all her friends, but let's Abby go. Abby only has Lev now. And Ellie doesn't have anyone. I want to hate Abby, but she had a reason. Hell, Ellie did the same thing Abby did. Revenge. (Didn't really get it, but still). It's so hard to just, feel like one of the characters are better than the other. I do feel like this should have been written completely differently.
If it makes you feel any better Ellie still has Dina, at the end in California Ellie isn't wearing Dina's bracelet but when she gets back to Wyoming you can notice it on her wrist again
And to be honest Ellie can still have Tommy in her life too they can repair their relationship
That’s why “cutting loose-ends” is important in a revenge.
She kills a bunch of people that didnt hurt her directly and when getting abby she is like "uh revenge bad"
The killing of its' friends only becomes senseless by sparing it instead of giving Joel his well deserved revenge
Dude? 'It'? Really?
@@rielo9725 I don't see what other personal pronoun works
@@milesmelz4045 she. its just a buff woman jesus christ
Oh my god “it” fucking hell 😂😂
@@natt4695 It is more than well fitting
At least there was a small reason to feel bad for mel passing. With Nora it was nothing but total satisfaction
Astronaut: It’s all a selfish world?
Other astronaut: Always has been.
Mel killed her own child the day she decided to help abby
When she's legit jumping with abby and hits her belly a lot, how the fuck did she not miscarriage when most minor labor and stress can make you lose a baby? Fucking "realistic"game acting like baby bellies made of stone.
They act like there not any zombies oh think how many people he killed ya you trie trust everyone right now
Right it's a vaccine people still would have died even tho they have 1 cuz the infected
They aren’t zombies
Trying to read this gave me a seizure
@@jbry4889 liar you'd be on the hospital rn
aplex dav oh honey, I am
Imagine Ellie having an axe as a weapon to kill but before that they locked the door and Ellie just bust down the door with the axe saying "Here's Ellie!" In a horrifing way possible.
The main problem I have with the ending of this game is that I feel it's not realistic at all, I don't think I've talked about it with a single person that didn't agree they would kill her, especially after already killing so much people, in an apocalyptic environment.
When Abby and Ellie were fighting, I could imagine Grunkle Stan sitting there watching them, shouting, "FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT!"
Underrated
@@angelvillarreal1738 really underrated
Can we just appreciate Tommy taking that headshot like a champ?
If you feel bad about killing Abby's "friends", don't.
They brought it on themselves.
They all did Joel included🤦🏽♂️
So did Joel my homie, he butchered tens of fireflies and doomed humanity
@@teenybopper2352 I didnt know Joel was responsible for the Cordyseps outbreak in 2013.
@@teenybopper2352 lol even if the vaccine was made (high chance it wouldnt) it would still be useless. The world is in absolutely chaos both by infectates and humans, people would probally not even believe on it.
@@METALLICARULES11he was responsible for dooming many. Ellie was immune, and a cure very well could have been made. He instead chose to take Ellie to some community and lie to her, instead of telling the truth.
The only time I’m happy that I die in the game is when I play as Abby
"You guys can survive this I just need her."
"Bullshit"
Well Owen you kinda brought it on yourself you are actually the reason why Mel and the baby are DEAD.
I never understood why Ellie just goes straight to Mel's body after Owen tells her "She's..." to check and discovers she's pregnant, she had no reason to go "No, no, no" and see her.
There is literally nothing that could tell her that she's pregnant, she could have just ignored her corpse an keep going, also managing to don't forget the map.
She was pregnant🤡? I thought she was just fat
Idk maybe she thought of Dina
If you listen to what hes muttering, you can actually hear him say she's pregnant.
He says shes pregnant… its just hard to hear
People say that she killed everyone but not abby and i understand that because while she was killing everyone she had people that cared about her and had her back but at the end of the game she understands that abby had a reason and that killing her wouldn't bring joel back and it wouldn't make things better, she end up alone just like she was so afraid to end up
Jesse had SO much potential, not to the mention the representation for diverse characters
Ellie: kills Abby
Game: MISsiON fAiLEd
This is what happened, never mess a girl from the wild.
Cringe.
Cringe
Cringe.
Cringe
Cringe
How it should've been:
Ellie: *stabs Nora's kneecap*
Nora: AAAARGH
Ellie: focus, right here. or i'll pop your goddamn knee off.
that would have been absolutely great
It pisses me off that Ellie keeps going near the enemy despite being in such a high advantage in range.
“You shoot me… the sound will have every soldier come running”
*Suppressor gets put on after cutscene*
I couldnt believe they made me fight ellie, i let abby get shotgunned to the face many times in that lvl.
I wish they had decisions on killing the characters
Why?
I wish we had stealth only or non-killing run possible.
@@Ayush_BP10 think about it.. your decisions that would alter the gameplay ending.. would be kinda cool
Wolf Prince like detriot become human and life is strange, your choices matter
That would ruin the point of the game which is the characters what joel or ellie does is what they do, not you your just a spectator basically
This is one of the only games we’re you can just forget about the part 2 and replay part 1 and get more fun out of it. 3/10 game. Dawg shit bro
SatFat123 you obviously don't know a good game when you see it.
@@shaunster1215 oh and you do? Bet your favorite movie is The Last Jedi right?
Alex K Ha!
Shaunster121 I obviously do if I just said part 1 was good. If you don’t think Part 1 is good then you just contradicted yourself
You honestly rated it too low
love how nobody acknowledges tommy surviving a headshot
It is possible to survive a headshot, it's just very rare to see
Extremely late but he didn’t get shot in the head, he got shot in the cheek
Love how Joel saves an innocent little girl from being dissected alive and yet somehow he’s the bad guy to these idiots
Here's the irony, if the last of us pt 1 started from Abbys chapter (her in the woods with her dad and the zebra), and we followed her journey to killing Joel, you be saying quite the opposite. Celebrating Abbys victory. Then if part 2 came out and you start the game with your friends being hunted by Ellie and you had to suddenly play as Ellie doing the killing...guess what you'd be saying the exact....same....thing! Joel doomed the world for a sacrifice Ellie would have wanted to do. The fact this will be forever debated though is why this is a masterpiece of storytelling. It will never be agreed upon because that is just human nature. We ultimately only care for our own bubble
that “hi Nora” so badass
They tried making Ellie seem like the bad person but in reality most of her kills were self defense. Like Jesse didn’t get a chance to aim at Abby sheesh.
And ellie only killed mel because she charged at her and her and owens dumb ass didnt even think to say she was pregnant until after mel was dead and owen dying on the floor, pretty stupid plot point to make ellie look bad, yet abby was about to take pleasure in killing dinah knowing she was pregnant. But nah, clearly deluded psychopathic blood thirsty bandit abby was the victim of everything even though she started everything and was willing to compromise her friends lives earlier by razing a peaceful community to lure out joel, real saint indeed.
All survivors do good n bad thins in that world
The only one that I think she killed without self defence was with Nora, but she damn well asked and deserved it lmao
18:57 i love this part
Ellie: point a gun at me, where’s ab..
Me: she went to the hospital
Fax I would tell her the future
Ellie: BACK THE F*CK UP!
Me: You better back the f*ck up... she ain’t jokin...
A whole lot of people don’t get that Abby lost literally everyone except lev.
If you hate the game because Ellie let Abby live just remember that Abby would live a life in absolute misery and pain with no one to confide in except lev and both of them are emotionally shocked and broken.
Ellie didn’t give them mercy.
But no avoid all that and complain about Joel (a 56 year old) dying in an apocalyptic scenario.
True ending: Ellie tortures and brutally Abby with the same gold club that she used to kill Joel
Man ya know the ending to this game takes me back to Metal gear rising revengeance the final boss, the boss theme explains how they aren’t different in too many ways, they both lost everything, and so many have perished for nothing.
It's nothing if you don't finish what you started. But if you kill everyone then it is worth
Seriously, thanks for this ending.
It’s so cool. Whilst ellie is talking to Nora in the spores. You can hear the ratking roaring in the background. Referencing Abby is still in the building
i used to hate owen but he’s decent after playing as abby but i never forgave abby
Y’know when you chase Ellie when playing as Abby, I’m gonna let her kill me with her machete. That is the only way I can be satisfied :(
Jewel taking a nap after Golf it’s literally the only time Ellie will kill Abby, and honestly I’d probably just turn off the game after that and be happy with it
Nah, get her on the ground and fail the prompt to smash her through the floor. She knifes Abby in an artery and you see the blood flow.
Tanner Barnes p e r f e c t
@@tannerbarnes7392 that's good
This reminds me of the "where is francis" cutscenes from Deadpool but much less satisfying.
Ellie: *Kills infected and anybody who gets in her way and hurts people who killed her loved ones*
Me: *too afraid to off the lights in my room because ill have to run in the dark*
lol
Lolol
Nora: "Your gun shot will draw every soldier"
Ellie with a suppressor in game that doesnt notice people next to them: "Yeh right"
This is why when you interrogate someone about to die, you break their legs for every unanswered question…Nora
Don’t humor her, Ellie.