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- The Gamma Seal Lids that I have seen are not air tight or leakproof.
A defect in the molds from which they are made causes them to leak. They are not suitable for long term food storage. They do make it easy to get in and out of buckets and they do keep mice and insects out.
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LOL I bet they're not very happy with you right now! You blew their cover!! Thanks man. You're video was concise.
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Blew their "COVER" (lid).
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This video shows how important it is for preppers to not just trust claims of others or manufacturers. Test your storage units before trusting them. I think you could carefully knife off the plastic flashing and then buff it out smooth. Our business does some injection molding of parts where a piston seal goes against the flashing and needs to hold pressure without leaking, so I'm speaking from experience on both the design and manufacturing side.
I use the gamma seal lids for a cannister filter in my aquarium. I couldn't figure out why I kept getting air bubbles specifically from the filter and figured I had an issue with my seal somewhere in the lid, and thought I did something wrong. This explains so much. Thank you, Jim!
Thank you for this warning Sir! This is a wealth of information so I don't have to learn the hard way.
Great discovery which saves many potentially dangerous events with food storage.
I would have liked to see the water test again after the "seams and flashing" were cleaned up. I immediately checked my Gamma Lids and cleaned up the Flashing. They weren't bad, but an ounce of prevention goes a long way.
Just found this video and tested the for lids I bought as they seem to be the same brand. Can't believe they make this claim when they obviously fail! If water can get out, air can definitely get in. Thanks for letting us know. Found any that actually work?
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False advertisement,call them on it maybe sue,there not cheap
@@irenegriego2446 Unfortunately the cost of a lawsuit is so high that no one is going to sue. The best thing we can do is to warn others. Thanks for your comment.
Just found your channel and saw this. I have a lot of Gamma Seal lids in my storage. Good to know they are not air tight. I do pack my food in mylar. People need to know this, since if they do NOT use mylar thinking their foods are air tight and water proof, say a flood hits...they've lost everything. Thanks for sharing.
VoodooKitchenMama but, I’m guessing that, if there’s a flood, one would’ve needed to ensure they have a perfect seal on the Mylar bags, as well. Could you tell me, when people buy those ziplock Mylar bags, where you hot seal them on the other end, is it possible for the ziplock part or heat sealed part to open up easily? I ask because, although I know it’s not the same thing, I’ve used those compressible bags for clothing storage and it was an utter waste of my money. The zipped part didn’t open up but, the bag end I later found popped wide open. What a sham.
@@privateprivate8366 I have never used the ziplock type, so I can't tell you if the zipper part or heat sealed part open up easily. I use the regular type, and never had one unseal or open anywhere. Once sealed, and the oxygen absorber does it's job, they stay hard like a brick in my experience. Sorry you had issues with the clothing storage bags. With all the advertising they get, it's disappointing to know they aren't as good as promised.
VoodooKitchenMama thank you!
@@privateprivate8366 even the ones with ziplock need to be heat sealed .
Gamma should pay you/ hire you and fix that issue
Thanks for showing me this! We just purchased four of these and I was about to store a large amount of rice.. I will definitely be checking this first... and returning them. They are WAY to expensive to be a faulty, untrustworthy product! I might as well buy the regular, dependable lids for much cheaper. Better safe than sorry!
Just trim of the excess plastic until it's smooth and the lids will be fine. Personally I'm thankful that I'm now aware of the problem and can fix it before using them.
@@jerrysmith372 your right but you shouldn't have to do that when purchasing something that they say is air tight and leak proof
@@jerrysmith372 Exactly. A dremel tool would work well to shave off the excess plastic. Good to know what to look for though!
I portion my rice and my beans also salt,sugar,and flour and I vacuum seal them before I put in my buckets with gamma lids
Same thing happened to me, my Gamma lid from Menards also leaked. I am SO GLAD I came across this video. Now I know what to check for. Im going to return all 3 lids that I bought. Thank you for posting this video
Thank you for your comment.
You are absolutely correct! Those seams in the cover, or which those of us in the industry refer to as flashing, is responsible for permitting wicking of any fluid past the gasket. Any rooky engineer would’ve been able to quickly identify the fact that the manufacturer of these lids used a poorly, very poorly designed tool with which to go into production. This two components system would have been successful if the manufacturer had voted a bit more attention to the tool design responsible for fabricating these components, but unfortunately, they did not and even made claims which are not true.
They are selling for 10 bucks. They seem easily fixed with a little sandpaper and maybe some silicone caulk if that doesn't work. I am willing to make a 10 minutes investment to see if they can be made to work.
Brilliant! I have some regular food grade buckets I got from the bakery. I need to test them, and this is a great way to see if they are air tight. Thank you!
Good catch Jim ,you saved me some money!
thank you for taking your time and sharing. I would have wasted a lot of time and effort. have a blessed day
Thanks, that's amazing. I did the reverse by putting them under a sprinkler for a time. I caulked around the bucket inside and out and it still gathered water. I built up some caulk around the lid and still got water. What I finally settled on is thick trash bag plastic lining the threads. That's held up well, but I'm going to start checking to see if there is mold flashing causing leaks and if cleaning those off and adding a bit of glue sealant if those won't keep moisture out.
Definitely can see the separation on the gasket. Thank you!
Thank you for the information, I am storing hundreds of pounds of rice beans and spice in mylar bags. but I want my buckets to be air tight as well.
Grab the regular cheap paint bucket lids then. They hold better but are a pain in the ass to take off later.
Thanks for the explanation.
that was the reason I was gonna buy gamma. No more , thanks to your cool stuff.
Too cool to know., now. TY sir
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Great video. Thanks for testing and sharing your results with us.
Thanks for your nice comment.
Air tight is not water tight. It is a common misconception that if something is air tight then it is also water tight. Air molecules and water molecules are different and do not perform the same. Water creates pressure on a seal that normal standing air does not. Something that is water tight at 1m may not be water tight at 5m and so on.
thank you for posting this. i just got mine today from lowes and i will test to see if it holds water no pun intended.
Thank you sir!
Just cancelled an order for 3 Gamma Seal lids. This video is most interesting. I picked up 4 lids at Home Depot from a company called Leaktite Screw-Toplid. The label makes no claims as to air or water tightness. The seem to be made the same as Gamma Seal lids. I found no flashing or mold sprues anywhere. Water pours out no matter how tight the cap is screwed in. Almost impossible to get it back out if screwed in heavily. The ring attached to the bucket did not leak. Will be returning them and using cheap snap on lids.
Wow! I own and use several and was looking at buying another for flour. Thanks!
We recently purchased BPA free, food grade, 60 gallon containers. We noticed raised edges in several spots and carefully sanded them down just in case these raised edges could prevent a proper seal . They work great 👍🏽. We will be checking the 5 gallon buckets/gamma lids as well. Thanks for sharing this test. I wouldn’t bring mine back if all it takes is a little sanding/trimming to fix the problem. But I surely can be on the lookout when we make future purchases.
Thanks for sharing this information with others.
Thanks for the tip. Great vid!
Jim, thanks for informing the public. Please inform the company of false advertisement and their interest should be to correct the problem.
Thank you Sr.
There are two easy solutions. 1. Use a Drexel tool to remove the mold marks. 2. Use a utility or XActo knife to remove mold marks. Good discovery. I'll have to go look at what I have on my gamma seal. Thanks for video
Thank you! 😎
Thanks for your comment.
I never thought of the Gamma Seal kids to be airtight, just convenient to open and access the contents.
Thanks for the heads up. It should come in handy when needed. Take care.
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Thank you
Thank You Sir
Wow! Thank you so much.
Thanks for your comment.
thank you so much for sharing
Thank you for an excellent demonstration 👍 Saved me from waisting my money 💰
I use them on the buckets I'm currently eating from only. I use mylar bags 02 absorbers and regular home depot buckets. I've been storing food for over a decade with no problems.
@@Jimscoolstuff yes sir. I agree.
Hi Keelan, would you recommend me using the home deport buckets? I heard all kind of feedback and want to make sure this is a good choice from some one that has really good experience with those buckets for food storage and for how long had you stored the food?Thanks
@@jackybeltran2712 as long as you are using Mylar bags to keep the food sealed. I have had no problems and I have buckets that are 10 years old.
@@keelan3894 hi Keenan do you know if any alternative to Mylar? I guess Mylar has aluminum in it so I’d be concerned it would leach aluminum into the stored food.
@@EB-cy5jw Yes....just spend a bit more and buy food grade buckets.
Excellent review to point out the engineering issue. The double gaskets as you mention do not create a back-up system as they are totally independent of each. The double gasket has to be in one spot, right after the other. Makes sense to me at least what you are pointing out. My experiences with Gamma Seal is that it does have some molding inaccuracies for a dependable air-tight seal, or water tight seal.
So hit that casting mark with a file or sandpaper .... put a little Petroleum Jelly or Bees Wax on the rubber gasket and problem solved .
Nice video. I'll show this to Hubby so you can double check ours. I don't store a lot but I do store bulk flour and sugar and I certainly don't want them to get wet. Thanks Jim. I subbed ya.
Do u store them in mylar bags then in the bucket? I would like to know the proper way to store sugar and flour
@@dakotastorms1255 good question. I don't use Mylar bags because I don't store more than I can use in a couple of months. Also, don't vacuum seal sugar. It will clump if you do. I think salt is fine without vacuum sealing and flour can be vacuum sealed. Hope this helps.
Great job Jim! I think folks that are storing rice and beans and such will be sorry 10 to 15 years from now that they didn’t use Mylar bags or jars.
ill just use lowes or home depot BUCKETS WITH MYLAR BAGS FOR FOOD STORAGE
That explains a lot. Thank you.
Good information!! Thanks!
Thanks for your comment.
FYI cutting off the mold lines on my lids didn't fix the leaking, I believe there's another design flaw in play here
That is correct...the material from which these are fabricated do not possess the required level of hoop stress necessary to withstand the constant load.
@@mazepa-slavaukrayini932 does this apply to all gamma lids or just this brand?
@@mazepa-slavaukrayini932 i agree . The Only way that may work is to only turn and tighten lid down just enough to seal the bucket. And then maybe stack another bucket on top to keep it from warping
Thank You.
Much obliged!
Good to know extra info, thanks ! I'm new to prepping, so this is important info to me. I know about sealed mylar bags with oxygen absorbers for long term. But I wondered about the efficacy of using these for shorter term rice etc to keep bug and moisture free. Thanks again !
I've worked in injection molding and it should of never of made it through the inspiration ! I can say with the cover you had I wouldn't of thought of flashing! Ty
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thank you for the sharing the experience. It is sad to know that even here in USA, we have China cheaply made stuff.
I have the same experience with the gamma sealed “vittles vault” ....wet moldy chicken feed.
Thank you so very much! You have saved us from buying this pretty expensive lids. Bless you heart! We have just subscribe to your channel.
Thanks for your nice comment.
You're correct, this is a mold seam and should have been trimmed off at the manufacture. Poor quality control. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. The simple fix is to use a sharp razor knife and trim the excess "Mold Squeeze" off the ring lid. I agree the costumer shouldn't have to do this. It is a good product and I will continue to use them. I'll now be aware of what to look for and fix the issue before using them. I have about 10 of these in service and now I'll have to go back and inspect each of them. The contents are all OK as they are in Mylar. But for extra seal I'll need to fix the lid seals. Thank you for this information.
not only the consumer shouldn't be doing this but it is misrepresentation and false information on their part for advertising a product that DOESN'T WORK/ Do what they claim.
I do not use them for storage. I use them for easy access after breaking the seal.
Same here, kind of figured they probably weren't 100% air tight. Sugar and salt are the only things I didn't use mylar bags for inside the buckets.
Me too
I would suggest that one rereads the label. There is nothing written there that states that it is 'waterproof.' It states that it can be used for "Dry Food Storage," "Lawn & Garden," " Construction," and "Pet Food." I have used Gamma Seals on 5-Gallon Buckets for storaging my survival supplies, kitty litter, cat food, dog food and other products. I've found that it makes it easier to open the containers and get to what I need to get to quickly and effortlessly. If I need to store water, there are other methods of doing so.
How can it be "airtight" and at the same time not waterproof ?
@@danbeard1168Do you store your stored food upside down????? When I've bought my Gamma Seals, I tend to burr down the exposed plastic edges before use. That's why there's an obvious leakage problem. I use a Dremel Tool. I also vacuum seal or place my stored foods in sealed Mylar Bags. The rubber seals don't last forever. That's why I buy and replace any that get cracked. It's called "preventative maintenance." Something that some people don't practice.
Wow. Excellent investigation here. Glad I chose the "mallet" style instead. Much better luck creating tight seals to protect the products I need to store.
thanks for your comment.
I saved up and bought 7 gamma kids. Saved up and bought buckets from Lowe’s. They didn’t fit properly and now I can’t send gammas back. Thank goodness I had only filled my 2 gallon Pail w brown sugar. What a waste of time and money. Thank you for this video.
Done a little prepping here and there over the years and concluded using dry ice to fill a covered bucket before sealing it was easiest and likely safest for long term storage. CO2 being heavy stays down in bucket but not sure how much loss of CO2 could come from heat expansion or what level I could depend on having CO2 in the bucket when it contracted in cooler weather. I know CO2 likes to suck up heat and expand but never did math on how much. Was guessing only half bucket on bottom would likely maintain CO2 to avoid O2 spoilage. Good with some probabilities but ignorance of CO2 is enough to keep me wondering. ;)
Jim White, Thank you Sir good video! You could probably trim that plastic off with hobby knife! Then it would seal!
Oh my gosh I hope they fixed the problem because, I just ordered 5 from Amazon.
Beth K. Thank you
I have the buckets with gamma seal lids because we had mice and need a way to store food the lids are great for us since we don't do long term storage we are always opening and closing the buckets we buy a lot and put it in the buckets and refill as we go.
I burried a bucket with that lid on it. Dug it up 4 years later. Yes there was water in the bucket. The contents at the bottom was unusable( can foods). But from one can up everything else was fine. I would recommend covering the bucket with a trash lid or something so water doesn't get in the bucket.
I buy the GAMMA lids strictly for ease of access to the bucket contents. I also don’t just dump food products directly in the bucket and seal. I don’t care if it IS a food grade bucket. I also divide my goods in to smaller, manageable sizes and either vacuum seal or enclose in Mylar bags first.
That is the correct way to store food, especially now that you know that these lids are not air tight or leak proof.
Never thought these buckets were Air tight everyone's gotta use mylar bags and the bucket for long term food storage with Oxygen absorbers.
Exactly, I bought a bunch of them, but put everything in mylar bags. Kind of figured they prob weren't 100% air tight. Sugar and salt were the only things I storeed with just useing the gamma seal tops. Went with these tops just for the ease of getting the contents out, that is about it.
@@thetightwadhomesteader3089 are they good for storing wheat berries?
@@n.s.7223 if you seal them in mylar they should last 10-20 years. Flour maybe a little over 5 years so wheat berries are your best bet. I did both, the flour I'll make into hard tack a few years from now if I don't need to use it soon. Hard tack can last almost indefinitely, I think they found 100 year old hard tack that was still edible.
@@thetightwadhomesteader3089 thank you so much for your answer. Really appreciate it. If I will use up my berries within a year is it still necessary to seal them or can I just put them in a bucket?
@@n.s.7223 as with any preservation, oxygen is your enemy, the more exposure, the worst it gets over time... make your own decisions
Thanks Jim, for showing their claims are false. I have several of the 40 lb capacity vittle vaults and really hate to hear this.
Thanks for your comment.
Thanks for your I was going buy a few buckets
I bought my first two gamma lids ever recently and today was assembling the adapter ring and was about to put the lid on when gasket on the lid portion came off. It split in two. I thought about taking it back to Menards but got out the glue instead. I couldn't get it to glue with the two ends meeting so there is a 1/8 inch gap or so I tried to fill in with glue.
It's so aggravating!
Thanks for sharing your experience.
Excellent Video, I would look at leveling the extrusions and trying to find a big o-ring or flat gasket. These would definitely have to be wrapped in a contractor bag before burying full of food and etc.
Thanks for your comment.
I have used them for critter food and now need to remove the old rims and install new ones but can't get the old ones off..Any suggestion? the buckets have stuff in then, do I need to empty the bird andsquirrel food to be able to put foot inside? thanks
I bought some black buckets with Gamma Lids. same leake problem. The flat area on the Gamma lid that snaps onto the bucket permanently ...... it has a flat ring all the way around for the screw on/off lid gasket to seal against.
This flat ring has 4 spots that look like it is a bad casting, or where the plastic was poured into the mold.
These 4 spots are right in the middle of the flat area the screw on top seals against. The spots are rough, and will NOT allow a seal with the lid gasket. My index finger is on the lid seal, and middle finger on the supposed smooth ring it must seal against. See the massive bumpy defect?
I drill a small hole on each lid, and use a small hand held food vacuum devise to suck the air out of all containers. Then quickly put electrical tape over the hole to permanently keep the vacuum in the container.
I tested it with vacuum and the opposite.... pumping pressure into it from our compressor. The air leaks out on all 4 defective, bumpy points of the lids.
From your video, and what I found....... these Gamma Lids suck!!! Very poorly made products, with NO quality control. Falsely advertised to say the least. China would have built a better product than these cheaply made USA lids.
Thanks for sharing this information.
Jim, great video, thank you for heads up!! Very important.. HOWEVER... I have several of these, purchased in 2017, that do not have the problem you show here... i.e. no flashing/mold problems. I replicated your test with one of my lids... put in 3 gallons of water, turned it upside down... left it for 2 days.. no leaks. I note your video is 2018.. so.. did company downgrade their lids? Are there knock-off imitations out there? Maybe from China?
To Gamma Manufacturer (if you read this): Comment please!!
I just bought 3 today (2020), but mine have copyrights from 2017 on the sticker, and they leak. I dont really see any molding problems either. I covered one almost entirely in teflon tape and got the leak to get down to a few drops per second.. but I need 100%. Im gonna run some sandpaper along one tomorrow and see if that fixes it
Thank you for this info if they say these gama lids are supposed to be air tight they should be, but Mylar bags should always be used I wouldn't have depended on just the lids also those containers keep out the rats there is one concern though what about rat urin or what if your place was flooded you better hope those Mylar bags are air tight 🙄
I have the exact same one you do. Does this come in a single piece? I can't get the 2 pieces apart. It seems to be just one piece??
I really use them because they are more durable for Stacking buckets. The regular lids from Lowe’s will degrade during long term storage.
There are videos showing how these break when heavy buckets are stacked. Go to where they sell heavy stuff in 5 gallon buckets (paint, asphalt coating etc.) They are usually stacked several buckets high using regular lids. Thanks for your comment.
Can't afford to store much food anyway but thanks for the information.
I have some from HD and will take a look at this problem. The ones I got from HD to not look like that at all.
I only want these for ease of opening. I had no intention of storing food long term without a mylar bag and oxygen absorbers as well anyway. And Bay leaves. They just look so darn cool and easy to open. I am quite weak, can't open jars lol
Thanks for your comment.
huh ill have to sand these down when i get mine for dog food then test with water after, if my container comes like this, good video!
Thanks for your comment.
Not only failed, but miserably. So actually the Gamma lid is only a convenience for opening a bucket. Isn't that the primary reason people buy these lids and they don't work.. Thank you for this helpful video 👌
They are convenient, but they could be made a lot cheaper by eliminating the large "o" rings which don't actually do anything.
Thanks for the heads up! However, I was hoping for a solution; other than just getting a refund.
IWILL BE CHECKING MINE FOR THE SAME DEFECT. THANKS FOR THE HEADS UP
Wish I had viewed your video before I bought 10 bucket assembly's from Amazon :( I'll look at removing the mold seam to create a good seal and find the mylar bags for better results..
I just received 6 plastic buckets just like this ones, thank you all tested them first
Looks like you could take a dremel tool and carefully clean off the plastic burrs and make them work although you shouldn't have to do this.
Doesn't help. I pre-emptively did that before installation when I noticed them. Still leaks. The ring-lid gasket is pure crap. That's the issue.
@@TroIIingThemSoftly :((
So which lid is leak-proof? There is no one ? So mylar is the only method?
@@DanaKot336 Mason Jars are leak proof.
ill keep using mylar bags inside of these, thank you
Thank you so much. Is this a brand issue, or gamma lids in general? I get free buckets from the baker section of my local grocery store. I'll definitely make sure my long term storage food is sealed separately in bags with oxygen absorbers. These lids are still better than floppy bucket lids loosely just sitting on top. I make my own laundry detergent. It was half a bucket's worth, made it in September. I dip into it to fill my small container to take to do the laundry. After 3 months, everything still smells fresh like day 1.
But I'll keep this in mind when it comes to long term food storage. Thanks.
Can u give me your laundry detergent recipe?
Can I use those buckets to store wheat berries in it for like a year?
A receiving threaded screw likely has to be on the bucket, and not a separate ring, perhaps. Right now there are two possible loose breach areas. The snap ring seal, and the screw down seal. Heat and cold can impact the expansion and contraction of those areas, and as you pointed out, molding inaccuracies greatly can destroy the accuracy and tight seal. The double gaskets should only be on the top portion of the screw down lid, back to back, and not as they are now, one on the separate ring and one on the screw down seal. They are not back to back and are actually single seal gaskets as they are. That's one of the problems. There are two possible breach areas the way Gamma Seal does it.
But you cannot blame Gamma to want to manufacture for the mass 5-gallon bucket world. You can blame and argue with the claim made itself as they are not 100% leak or air proof. Gamma lids fit nearly 95% of all of the millions of 5-gallon buckets in the world, still an amazing feat.
As far as making a leak proof, air-tight seal lid, I see the only real practical way is to eliminate the use of two parts and make the sealing lid just a screw down or even over the side. The bucket, with a screw thread to receive a top lid. The top lid could have two seals on it, back to back, or the specialized bucket would have one seal and the screw down lid would have the other. My method or suggestions of course would require a specific bucket and that would destroy the ability to fit just about every 5-gallon bucket. The Gamma Seal lids are not though 100% leak or air-tight proof in my own testing also.
Perhaps a practical application would be the $2.00 snap down lids and inside use a dry-bag or even these gamma seal lids with the dry-bag insert.
I always knew these lids were not airtight. I use containers with gamma lids to store pet food and even when the lid is on very tight, I can still smell the food pellets. But the lid is effective in keeping out insects and rodents (so far). Best to get a very thick plastic bucket that is difficult for mice and rats to chew through. The bucket in this video is not thick enough to keep out rats.
Good info! Jim, have you tried to clean up the mold marks and see if they are airtight?
@@Jimscoolstuff Gotcha, I understand that. Seems Quality Control completely dropped the ball here!
wondering if silicone grease will seal them
I think they might have changed their manufacturing methods. I recently bought some of these and I can't even find a hint of a mold seam (not even one that has been trimmed/cleaned up). I'm going to test them like you did when I have a chance.
Thanks for the information. please let us know the result of your test. I am going to look at them in the store to see if there has been a change.
I love the engineering brain. I think it is important for people to know that gamma lids are a good seal... but is best used with Mylar bags...
If it leaks at all it's not a "good seal". Water, and air even more so, can find the tiniest little gap and exploit it, like mice or yellow jackets, but on a much smaller scale. I used to install beverage equipment, and later, water treatment equipment, so I have some experience with leaks. So much so, that I came to truly hate the word "leak" when I was in that line of work
You can prep your work very carefully, do everything perfectly by the book, spend three hours attending to every detail, using thread seal tape and thread sealing compound, clamps, etc, and the damned thing can still leak. One little drop of water every ten minutes, but it's still a leak and it can't happen. The slightest imperfection in a plastic or metal part can spoil everything, and make the installation of thousands of dollars of high quality equipment into a piece of junk in the customer's eyes, because of one little burr or molding line on a part letting that one drop of water leak and fall to the floor.
When you're talking long-term food storage, any imperfection that lets in even one molecule of oxygen or moisture is unacceptable. So, if we can't trust these gamma-seal lids to be truly sealed, then we have to rely on the mylar. You'd get the same results as far as preservation by just putting your mylar bags in a cardboard box, because over time, that box is as airtight as these bucket lids.
Everyone knows these kids are for quick access to open bags in buckets. I use nylar bags sealed. I only use screw on lid for bucket I'm currently consuming..
Everyone does not know because the company advertises that these are air and liquid tight.
As soon as I saw that tarp and whiteboard set up, I knew I was in for some learning, I would like to note the it may be air tight enough for air, but the additional weight and pressure exceeded it's normal pressure specs? I don't trust them at all now tho, the design is seriously flawed, especially the mold marks... but the question is, are they any better than a normal bucket lid?
I never believed they were airtight or leakproof. I still like them for certain tasks.
Yes they are convenient. It is the false advertising that bothers me. Someone could make an easy open cover much cheaper if they did not have to compete with the false claims to be water and air tight.
@@Jimscoolstuff agreed.
I'm getting ready to incorporate one of these in a dust collector to replace the bag. Came across your video. Good observation for sure. After seeing this I removed the seal from my new one after seeing the same things you pointed out. Took a razor blade to trim the excess and sanded down all of those plastic flashings.shouod go a long way in helping it seal. Will add a rope seal if it doesn't.... One way or another it will eventually. Lol
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The sad thing is you shouldn’t have to pay that much for something that you have to put that much effort into. That’s WHY you spent the extra money in the first place. We’d be better off buying the cheap lid that we know seals well.
You can use your buckets with the regular lids on tight, as long as you store your food in my lar bags for long term. Use the gamma lids for pantry storage for easy use. Also they don't stack well, the lid or the bottom of the bucket will eventually crack. If you put the buckets in a shed, they may not last even a season, and will crack.
Thankyou for this good advice.