I've noticed a lot of people who are kinda very clueless about what is cheating, I suggest you watch this before making a fool out of yourself in the comments: ua-cam.com/video/ku8uSTyl7gE/v-deo.html
i swear all these 12yo brain ppl take ds3 as life and death, just cause bad in game, so they find excuse to use cheats, the excuse is "THEY GLITCHING". On pc i would lovely get rce-ed cause some kid found unfair i used a glitch of ingame.
People dont realize making parts of you invisible hides some of your animation. The whole body is calculated in to how to space something, including the waist and legs
@@jiddy30 the problem is you could say that to unscaled summons or even save hacked HP aswell, there are counter to theese things but ultimately its unfair for your oponent
@@pretty_fly_for_a_jeskai The Morne's WA is a neat shut down for any Gundyr's or Ledo's WA. Again, the stats are insane and can only be pulled off at meta. If you're going to go 132+, that extra 30 faith can go to good use by bringing Vow of Silence. You know... Just in case. ;)
@@MrMetalhorse people care because it is cheating - as Jee pointed out elsewhere, it is the equivalent of getting extra levels (higher defense without having to carry more levels of vitality). And sure, is it the worst form of cheating ever? No, but it is still cheating.
@@iamamish I respect both you and Jeenine but c'mon dude. G9 Has 0 moral high ground over this dude. He estus cancels exclusively, faps all the time and pulls out murky on everyone, solo or not (which I am a 100% ok with) but it's unfair to kill the dude for glitching when you're doing the same thing. Yes, I know this glitch is worse than what G9 does but this kind of half-baked honor is weird to me, specially against gank city shitters. Those guys deserve 0 sympathy because they would do that shit to you if they knew how to do it.
@@MrMetalhorse It's not about which is worse - it's about the fact that what Jee does it glitching, while this is cheating. There is a very important distinction, and I say this as somebody who doesn't like the glitches.
that invinsible leggings only comes by save editing - cheating, that has no weight and has defence like a weighty armor would, estus cancel is skilled to pull out while many ppl putting pressure on you, available for everyone, its in the game, it can be hard to deal with but same time its like a weapon whats broken, available for everyone, so do refill, while refill is not that skilled still in the game, no cheats needed, encountering someone using these glitches doesnt justify the useage of cheats, its like justify yourself using cheats cause your opponent is using lets say murky, you like it or not, still in the game
@@ungone7133 Save editing is also available for everyone. Just search on YT how to do it and voila. I believe that some glitchers are acceptable, others not so much. in my opinion it's all the same - cheat. When players estus cancel they are cutting animation. When people refill or bowglitch they are fooling the game. Even weapon swap when the character do the R1 animation from another weapon.
If you use any form of bug, glitch, or hack, youre a shitter. Estus cancelling is not a mechanic, it's a glitch. Fapping is not a mechanic, its a glitch. Moveset swapping is a glitch. All should be patched out if ER has any chance of maintaining a non toxic pvp playerbase.
Really hope the anticheat keeps this shit at bay. It was one thing to play with massive hp and stamina hacks but I have been away too long to know about this crap. I was confused in your fightclub vid because I had no idea it was a thing. It blows my mind how low people will stoop to convince themselves they are good. Like.... imagine being so braindead that you could decieve yourself to this degree 😂
Estus cancel is cheating bro doesn't matter if it takes skill doesn't matter if you use it to "even the odds" against unfair ganks. Not like that even matters because you use it on totally honest PvE noobs. Subverting the rules to gain an unfair advantage is the definition of cheating.
excuses. Look at super smash broes, has an infinite stun and allowed on all tournies, and not ds3 size of 600 dollar price tournies, 1000s of dollars ones, or look at Apex legends, all parkours in it are glitch related, at least most of them and all remembered as skill to use. And look at you now, you complain a glitch and say its cheating cause you just too bad to do it and deal when someone else does it, in a 6 year old game, what was dying even before glitches got public
dude ur holier than thou attitude is so hypocritical, how many bugs and exploits do you use regularly that give you an advantage? and even if you didnt use any bugs or exploits, gankers still do on a regularly basis on top of every advantage they have naturally. FURTHERMORE, the way you were easily able to kill him w the supposedly SUPER OP ARMOR! /AND/ a murky proves that its not that much of an advantage as you claim it is.
If you're 10x better than me and I cheat to make myself 2x better, I'm still cheating like mad, even though you're still 5x better than me. The fact that Jee killed him easily has no relevance whatsoever to the question of whether the other player was cheating. Lastly Jee is not being hypocritical here - he uses in-game glitches but that is different than cheating. You may not see an important distinction here but Jee does (and so do I).
@@iamamish the advantage that armor gives is hardly unfair, just like most of the glitches and exploits Jee uses. matter of fact some of the gltiches that most of the pvp community has decided is fair game, like estus canceling, is a way bigger advantage and way more impactful during fights than some armor that has has no weight. he absolutely is hypocritical, at the end of the day no matter how you color it or try to explain it, he uses glitches and exploits to give himself more of an advantage, and hes shitting on someone for doing the same.
@@adindrecaj No, he uses glitches, and is shitting on somebody for cheating. Glitches != cheating, they are very different. If I were going to fight you and you were using a UGS, and let's say somebody gave me a choice - you can either swap your UGS to a murky, or hack in an extra 10 hp. Obviously the murky would give me way more trouble than an extra 10 hp, but the extra 10 hp would be cheating, whereas murky is in the game. Neither cheating nor glitching are defined by severity, or impact to the game.
so ur just making a semantic argument than? who cares about definitions, define it how ever you want. when you boil it all down, the fact of the matter is the invisible armor gives you an unintended advantaged and estus canceling and other "accepted" forms of glitching do the same. It is hypocrisy, plain and simple.
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I've noticed a lot of people who are kinda very clueless about what is cheating, I suggest you watch this before making a fool out of yourself in the comments:
ua-cam.com/video/ku8uSTyl7gE/v-deo.html
i swear all these 12yo brain ppl take ds3 as life and death, just cause bad in game, so they find excuse to use cheats, the excuse is "THEY GLITCHING". On pc i would lovely get rce-ed cause some kid found unfair i used a glitch of ingame.
"I feel like teammate is just letting host suffer".
Saying while whipping him LOL :D
I agree with the hacking perspective. There's a massive difference between equipping a weapon to your arrow slot and wearing hacked gear.
Wait, equipping a weapon to your arrow slot is a thing? That sounds really wonky.
@@Chris-re3lv it's very common in ds1 and dsr. Completely cosmetic and actually kinda gimps you a bit because of how good bows are there.
People dont realize making parts of you invisible hides some of your animation. The whole body is calculated in to how to space something, including the waist and legs
The problem is that on those invis pieces of gear have 0 weight and can give you havel defence.
At least thats what i heard of.
@@asahiasumane9912 yeah thats annoying, but if i can space i can still outplay atleast
@@jiddy30 the problem is you could say that to unscaled summons or even save hacked HP aswell, there are counter to theese things but ultimately its unfair for your oponent
@@asahiasumane9912 i didnt say it wasnt?
Man seeing you wipe the floor with that hacker felt amazing
Always wanted to see you using whips. The Irony was the host having a Shield and not using it once
5:20 that was really smart 😂😂
I used morne's in 2017 a lot, wa is not bad actually, i wish i could add that as a hardswap to my lightning build but requirements is beyond stupid.
Mornes WA is a lot better against gankers who just swing into it
@@pretty_fly_for_a_jeskai The Morne's WA is a neat shut down for any Gundyr's or Ledo's WA. Again, the stats are insane and can only be pulled off at meta. If you're going to go 132+, that extra 30 faith can go to good use by bringing Vow of Silence. You know... Just in case. ;)
11:06 does Thorns work when you QS?
Quickstep is great with thorns. Quickstep kills and roll kills with thorns for an easy kill after popping tears.
@@Chris-re3lv oh that's cool to know! i never realised that QS procs Thorns...
QS thorns is frame 1. The regular roll is not
@@MsDestroyer900 so it’s even stronger?
@@FyterianTV yep
Casul question. Can anyone explain toe what the red did that was considered cheating? I legitimately don't know. I quit playing this game a while ago.
hacked gear. if you look closely, they're invisible from the waist down.
so it's got 0 weight, high absorption, and hides some of their animation.
@@FyterianTV That's it? That's not that bad in my opinion. If he was doing that to pve people I guess it's bad but these are meta ganks. Who cares
@@MrMetalhorse people care because it is cheating - as Jee pointed out elsewhere, it is the equivalent of getting extra levels (higher defense without having to carry more levels of vitality). And sure, is it the worst form of cheating ever? No, but it is still cheating.
@@iamamish I respect both you and Jeenine but c'mon dude. G9 Has 0 moral high ground over this dude. He estus cancels exclusively, faps all the time and pulls out murky on everyone, solo or not (which I am a 100% ok with) but it's unfair to kill the dude for glitching when you're doing the same thing. Yes, I know this glitch is worse than what G9 does but this kind of half-baked honor is weird to me, specially against gank city shitters. Those guys deserve 0 sympathy because they would do that shit to you if they knew how to do it.
@@MrMetalhorse It's not about which is worse - it's about the fact that what Jee does it glitching, while this is cheating. There is a very important distinction, and I say this as somebody who doesn't like the glitches.
what is the difference between use that invisible gear and estus cancel? Or bowglitch? Or refill?
Sounds like something a shitter would say. You know the difference, you’re just trying to justify cheating
that invinsible leggings only comes by save editing - cheating, that has no weight and has defence like a weighty armor would, estus cancel is skilled to pull out while many ppl putting pressure on you, available for everyone, its in the game, it can be hard to deal with but same time its like a weapon whats broken, available for everyone, so do refill, while refill is not that skilled still in the game, no cheats needed, encountering someone using these glitches doesnt justify the useage of cheats, its like justify yourself using cheats cause your opponent is using lets say murky, you like it or not, still in the game
@@ungone7133 Save editing is also available for everyone. Just search on YT how to do it and voila. I believe that some glitchers are acceptable, others not so much.
in my opinion it's all the same - cheat.
When players estus cancel they are cutting animation.
When people refill or bowglitch they are fooling the game.
Even weapon swap when the character do the R1 animation from another weapon.
If you use any form of bug, glitch, or hack, youre a shitter. Estus cancelling is not a mechanic, it's a glitch. Fapping is not a mechanic, its a glitch. Moveset swapping is a glitch. All should be patched out if ER has any chance of maintaining a non toxic pvp playerbase.
@@koishily Yep, I agree.
First invasion was gold!
Jee, you on console rn? Or is this backlog footage?
ps5
Jee has always been on console lately
Really hope the anticheat keeps this shit at bay. It was one thing to play with massive hp and stamina hacks but I have been away too long to know about this crap. I was confused in your fightclub vid because I had no idea it was a thing. It blows my mind how low people will stoop to convince themselves they are good. Like.... imagine being so braindead that you could decieve yourself to this degree 😂
Estus cancel is cheating bro doesn't matter if it takes skill doesn't matter if you use it to "even the odds" against unfair ganks. Not like that even matters because you use it on totally honest PvE noobs. Subverting the rules to gain an unfair advantage is the definition of cheating.
excuses. Look at super smash broes, has an infinite stun and allowed on all tournies, and not ds3 size of 600 dollar price tournies, 1000s of dollars ones, or look at Apex legends, all parkours in it are glitch related, at least most of them and all remembered as skill to use. And look at you now, you complain a glitch and say its cheating cause you just too bad to do it and deal when someone else does it, in a 6 year old game, what was dying even before glitches got public
Lol who finds playing like that fun??
Nobody does. Only the people who think it will make them happy.
if you’re talking about the dragon armour then it’s just funny having no legs or arms.
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dude ur holier than thou attitude is so hypocritical, how many bugs and exploits do you use regularly that give you an advantage? and even if you didnt use any bugs or exploits, gankers still do on a regularly basis on top of every advantage they have naturally. FURTHERMORE, the way you were easily able to kill him w the supposedly SUPER OP ARMOR! /AND/ a murky proves that its not that much of an advantage as you claim it is.
If you're 10x better than me and I cheat to make myself 2x better, I'm still cheating like mad, even though you're still 5x better than me. The fact that Jee killed him easily has no relevance whatsoever to the question of whether the other player was cheating.
Lastly Jee is not being hypocritical here - he uses in-game glitches but that is different than cheating. You may not see an important distinction here but Jee does (and so do I).
@@iamamish the advantage that armor gives is hardly unfair, just like most of the glitches and exploits Jee uses. matter of fact some of the gltiches that most of the pvp community has decided is fair game, like estus canceling, is a way bigger advantage and way more impactful during fights than some armor that has has no weight. he absolutely is hypocritical, at the end of the day no matter how you color it or try to explain it, he uses glitches and exploits to give himself more of an advantage, and hes shitting on someone for doing the same.
@@adindrecaj No, he uses glitches, and is shitting on somebody for cheating.
Glitches != cheating, they are very different.
If I were going to fight you and you were using a UGS, and let's say somebody gave me a choice - you can either swap your UGS to a murky, or hack in an extra 10 hp.
Obviously the murky would give me way more trouble than an extra 10 hp, but the extra 10 hp would be cheating, whereas murky is in the game.
Neither cheating nor glitching are defined by severity, or impact to the game.
so ur just making a semantic argument than? who cares about definitions, define it how ever you want. when you boil it all down, the fact of the matter is the invisible armor gives you an unintended advantaged and estus canceling and other "accepted" forms of glitching do the same.
It is hypocrisy, plain and simple.
Agree man lol,, hes so disgusting
2nd x)