Thanks for the video! I have several watches but all are light powered(Seikos and Citizens). I think the best had been if all watches was light powered. Still, there are a lot of attractive automatic watches and I consider to add an automatic watch to my collection. Therefore I wonder about a winder or not. When I look at the winders movement it's easy to think that it's too slow. When you carry a watch you now and then move the arm and wave around it in the air and that's much faster movements than the winders does. Couldn't the winder move faster and more often change the direction so it became more similar to real use? Also that should make the required time of the winder shorter.
Good advice. I also like your cavalier attitude; they do look cool! If you do store a watch, make sure it is stored a closed hermetically sealed environment.
Thank you for this very informative video about w/w. I have watches but some of them are usually worn during special occasions only. Now I know where should I put them.
This guy actually says if you have a watch that you're always wearing put it on the watch Winder. but if you have a watch that you don't wear don't put it on the watch Winder. What! The reason I would get a watch winders is because I don't wear my watch all the time and I will put it in the watch Winder so when I do wear it has the time what is this guy talking about. She basically said the opposite of what everybody else said to do. SMH
Ask a master watchmaker.. and the answer is no.. don't use one. Constantly winding an automatic causes the mainspring to constantly slip in the barrel. It's designed to do this... but using a winder will cause this to happen much more than normal use. The grease in the barrel assembly will lose it's efficiency and you will need new parts... mainspring and barrel. If the barrel arbour wears as well it can 'tilt' the barrel in it's pivots, causing wear to the bottom plate and bridge through contact. Modern oils in watches don't deteriorate like the old oils used to just by exposure to air, so they stay efficient even when the watch isn't used for months. This is why service intervals have lengthened.. the modern oils do however deteriorate with use on a constantly used watch. The service interval is based on constant use..... Therefore if you are wearing modern watches in rotation without keeping them constantly running you are effectively lengthening their service intervals. Saves wear and money. You will likely have to reset the calendar on a non perpetual anyway when you pick up the watch from the winder if the month has changed. Another reason I'd never use them... you are putting your valuable watches on a valuable winder... easy for a burglar/thief. I also have a collection of around 200 watches of various vintages up to modern. I never sell any... and have never had one serviced as I don't care about the resale value. The only reason I would have to pay for a service would be to enhance it's value for selling. Some of these are 20 years old now and run like new... because I rotate them and don't use a winder.
@@stevewilliams5428 this makes perfect sense to me. If a watch can run 24/7 continuously for 10 years before it needs service or is worn out, and you only wear it for dress occasions.. it makes sense to me to let it stop running if you are only going to wear it a few days a year. It could last your lifetime this way. If you have it in a winder 24/7 it's going to wear out. They look cool but I'm thinking I'm going to pass on one.
I think what he is referring to is for VINTAGE automatics. Their reserve is usually about 8 hours. So if you wear it during the day but take it off in the evening the watch may not be running with optimal reserve when you put it on again in the morning. I have experienced this with my dad’s 1953 automatic Tissot. If you keep it running it keeps time like a champ but if it is at the end of its reserve it starts faltering.
A watchmaker told me not to use a winder unless you have a very complicated watch like perpetual and moonphase that will take some time to set. Otherwise its of corse better let them be and wind them once a month. The more you stress them the sooner they wear out. Also the the oils nowadays dont get bad of being still for longer time. Can you confirm its like that?
+Johnny Johansson yes I agree but if you ask another watch man you will get a different opinion, is would say use them for a week and let them rest for 3 weeks rotate that's the name of the game 😊
Johnny, I was told the exact same thing from a watch maker of 50 years standing working in Neuchâtel, Switzerland, whose father was also a watchmaker. I mentioned to him about the oils seizing up, and he said that will not happen if you keep the watches well maintained and well stored i.e, dust free, away from heat, direct sunlight etc.
@@todorelojconfernando i wear my daytona 2 days week, which means i wind my watch once a week. should i get a watch winder , so i wont shorten life span of the crown/gasket since i wind 4 times a week?
Thank you for another great video, no winder for me as space dictates. As you stated good for keeping watches with marginal power reserve at the ready. I personally believe all the extra motion would lead to premature wear, I could be wrong, but it just seems reasonable. Love the mechanicals on the winder, at least they weren’t Quartz...lol
Armando Marcial Alonzo I suppose that’s what makes the world spin. At least we are all entitled to our own opinion. I don’t try or expect to sway anyone’s thoughts or opinions. I watched Spencer Klein’s video on the subject and it’s his opinion that constant motion turns the lube into grinding slurry over time and would cause damage....tomato....tomatoe.,. As long as we love watches, that’s what matters to me!
Can anybody help? I have only one watch a auto rolex datejust I will wear it everyday but I need to take it off for three or four hours each day because of gym, football, manual labour, shower, bedtime etc Do I still need one? Thanks
I wear a watch everyday as a watch enthusiast. I am tired of my Omega and Tag mechanical watches stopping due to forgetting to put into a winder, getting Citizen pro master solar …. Good riddance !!!
Thanks for the video!
I have several watches but all are light powered(Seikos and Citizens). I think the best had been if all watches was light powered. Still, there are a lot of attractive automatic watches and I consider to add an automatic watch to my collection. Therefore I wonder about a winder or not.
When I look at the winders movement it's easy to think that it's too slow. When you carry a watch you now and then move the arm and wave around it in the air and that's much faster movements than the winders does. Couldn't the winder move faster and more often change the direction so it became more similar to real use? Also that should make the required time of the winder shorter.
Good advice. I also like your cavalier attitude; they do look cool!
If you do store a watch, make sure it is stored a closed hermetically sealed environment.
+Burkhold St. Rudderberg thank you so much, there so cool 😊
Thank you for this very informative video about w/w. I have watches but some of them are usually worn during special occasions only. Now I know where should I put them.
In a safe place... not a watch winder.
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This guy actually says if you have a watch that you're always wearing put it on the watch Winder. but if you have a watch that you don't wear don't put it on the watch Winder. What! The reason I would get a watch winders is because I don't wear my watch all the time and I will put it in the watch Winder so when I do wear it has the time what is this guy talking about. She basically said the opposite of what everybody else said to do. SMH
Ask a master watchmaker.. and the answer is no.. don't use one.
Constantly winding an automatic causes the mainspring to constantly slip in the barrel. It's designed to do this... but using a winder will cause this to happen much more than normal use. The grease in the barrel assembly will lose it's efficiency and you will need new parts... mainspring and barrel. If the barrel arbour wears as well it can 'tilt' the barrel in it's pivots, causing wear to the bottom plate and bridge through contact.
Modern oils in watches don't deteriorate like the old oils used to just by exposure to air, so they stay efficient even when the watch isn't used for months. This is why service intervals have lengthened.. the modern oils do however deteriorate with use on a constantly used watch. The service interval is based on constant use.....
Therefore if you are wearing modern watches in rotation without keeping them constantly running you are effectively lengthening their service intervals. Saves wear and money.
You will likely have to reset the calendar on a non perpetual anyway when you pick up the watch from the winder if the month has changed.
Another reason I'd never use them... you are putting your valuable watches on a valuable winder... easy for a burglar/thief.
I also have a collection of around 200 watches of various vintages up to modern. I never sell any... and have never had one serviced as I don't care about the resale value. The only reason I would have to pay for a service would be to enhance it's value for selling. Some of these are 20 years old now and run like new... because I rotate them and don't use a winder.
@@stevewilliams5428 this makes perfect sense to me. If a watch can run 24/7 continuously for 10 years before it needs service or is worn out, and you only wear it for dress occasions.. it makes sense to me to let it stop running if you are only going to wear it a few days a year. It could last your lifetime this way. If you have it in a winder 24/7 it's going to wear out. They look cool but I'm thinking I'm going to pass on one.
@@tjwright Good decision.
I think what he is referring to is for VINTAGE automatics. Their reserve is usually about 8 hours. So if you wear it during the day but take it off in the evening the watch may not be running with optimal reserve when you put it on again in the morning. I have experienced this with my dad’s 1953 automatic Tissot. If you keep it running it keeps time like a champ but if it is at the end of its reserve it starts faltering.
Informative video, thanks. Mark
A watchmaker told me not to use a winder unless you have a very complicated watch like perpetual and moonphase that will take some time to set. Otherwise its of corse better let them be and wind them once a month. The more you stress them the sooner they wear out. Also the the oils nowadays dont get bad of being still for longer time. Can you confirm its like that?
+Johnny Johansson yes I agree but if you ask another watch man you will get a different opinion, is would say use them for a week and let them rest for 3 weeks rotate that's the name of the game 😊
+Marcin Grzegorczyk great point 😊
Johnny, I was told the exact same thing from a watch maker of 50 years standing working in Neuchâtel, Switzerland, whose father was also a watchmaker. I mentioned to him about the oils seizing up, and he said that will not happen if you keep the watches well maintained and well stored i.e, dust free, away from heat, direct sunlight etc.
@@todorelojconfernando i wear my daytona 2 days week, which means i wind my watch once a week. should i get a watch winder , so i wont shorten life span of the crown/gasket since i wind 4 times a week?
Kinetic watches that are not worn regular must go on a watch winder or your looking at a new capacitor. I agree about automatics
Good video sir, I like your style!
+Steven thank you so much 😊
Great desktop showcases or unless your testing out a few watches at the same time, we only have two wrists. 🙂
+Ka Yo yes they help a lot for testing 😊
Excellent, appreciable. Subscribed.
Thanks for advice
Thank you very much. That was clear and good information!!
Great honest feedback👍
Can you recommend an android app that checks watches like your timegrapher. Thanks.
Thanks, I'll look at them.
+Terry Bergin I have used several and don't like any of them it's all in the microphone and phones don't have great mics😊
Collecting Vintage Watches OK thanks for your advice.
You got me Bro, they do look cool. My unused watches are inside a winder and not even plugged in~!!!..
Thank you for another great video, no winder for me as space dictates. As you stated good for keeping watches with marginal power reserve at the ready. I personally believe all the extra motion would lead to premature wear, I could be wrong, but it just seems reasonable. Love the mechanicals on the winder, at least they weren’t Quartz...lol
I kind of have the same view, you don't park your car in the garage with a running motor neither ;)
U should watch the Watch Repair Chanel, he said that watches are made to be running 24/7 and it affects more if it isnt running.
Yeah, I've just seen that, but in my opinion, ask five different watchmakers and you get at least six different answers :D
Armando Marcial Alonzo I suppose that’s what makes the world spin. At least we are all entitled to our own opinion. I don’t try or expect to sway anyone’s thoughts or opinions. I watched Spencer Klein’s video on the subject and it’s his opinion that constant motion turns the lube into grinding slurry over time and would cause damage....tomato....tomatoe.,. As long as we love watches, that’s what matters to me!
tim fenrich well u are right, different opinions but we all here have the same common ground, thats right, Watches!
Can anybody help? I have only one watch a auto rolex datejust I will wear it everyday but I need to take it off for three or four hours each day because of gym, football, manual labour, shower, bedtime etc Do I still need one? Thanks
Ruhul Amin You don't need a watch winder at all mate.
No.
thanks for this,
Total nonsense. If it’s just been serviced and the power reserve isn’t near or at manufacturers specs then it wasn’t serviced.
Fernando, ponlo en español, por favor.
Pon vídeos así en tu canal en castellano queremos vídeo !!!!!!
+Oscar Alcon Hermano,!!!!! Hoy subiré, prometido 😁
Great
I wear a watch everyday as a watch enthusiast. I am tired of my Omega and Tag mechanical watches stopping due to forgetting to put into a winder, getting Citizen pro master solar …. Good riddance !!!