Fantastic once again mr Carrie , we cannot let our wonderful moors end up like that barren desert in the first part of your film. I think we all have a lot of work to do in educating non shooting people and I take my hat off to you for what you're doing sir
Thanks for the accolade James (i do not really deserve it) there are far too many others doing great work that deserve much more credit than what they get
What a lovely video Dave, the photography in this one is sublime and the message is equally important. It always makes my day when you put up a new one and I've got to say the new look suits you! Very sweet couple of incomers at about the 9 minute 20 something second mark......nicely shot, as always. Thanks and best regards from the US.
Great video as usual Dave and always sensible informative information provided for those less fortunate to understand the true management required in our beautiful countryside....
Trezmendos Dave! and you look 20 years younger to boot! Have a great season and I so look forward to many more vlogs over the coming months/years! Bring it on young man 👌
I know we kicked off on a disagreement but I look forward to these films. Some of these channels are losing there way unfortunately. However you ARE a true ambassador For shooting and the countryside and what i call A PROPER SHOOTING MAN. All the best mate.
great video and very well put need the general public see this and understand why we do what we do, keep up the good work use the platform you have to good use thank for your work .
Aptly conceived. The conservation angle of game shooting could do with more attempts like this. Great work Dave. You look refreshingly different though. :-)
Dear Mr. Carrie, great video again!👍👍👍 I can't believe that the number of people who could not understand the correlations of things going on in nature is still increasing. What must happen, that they will check that their "way" is a bad way for our beloved countryside. I think that if people start to take action in the cycle of nature they have to keep this way going on (Do not stop moorland management!), otherwise everything will run out of control and the damage to our nature would be so big that nobody could imagine what will happen. Unfortunately we have to experience it the hard way (fire, flooding, loss of diversity...). I hope, that things will change soon (before it is too late) for our nature and the countrysports. Kind regards from Austria
Bring it on Dave.Thought M.W. shot pretty well with your gun😁.Good to see the film back up for all the right reasons.👍.I know the time it takes to put these films together even on an amateur/hobby level.Our countryside and pursuits need this kind of input.Much appreciated.
Hi Dave, Cristobal from Rotterdam. Happy New Year, wishing you a prosperous and healthy 2025. I am curious, I understand that you shoot with the same shotgun the grouse as the pheasant and I assume that it is a shotgun that shoots high, when you go to the moor do you need to aim more and be more aware of the barrels when shooting the grouse or unconsciously adjust the underneath shot. Appreciate your comments. Thank you again
@@cristobaltoral-p5t hi Cristobal, yes I do use the same gun for all my shooting apart from any small bore days, you are correct my guns shoot high , in a grouse situation I shoot as normal for most scenarios but consciously flattening my cheeks on the stock for long or close low flat crossers adding more pressure the closer the low crossing shot
farmers will not need tips, they will have shot plenty of pigeon in the past, treat them like pigeon as if they are going to try and escape, on grouse be very alert and ready, soon as you see one get that gun mounted and moving if you dither he'll be gone, do not worry over neighbors birds get them shot there is no poaching in grouse shooting it is all fair game. good luck stay safe and enjoy
Thanks Dave , we are all counting down the days already !! BnB booked in the local pub it's going to be a yearly treat from now on . I've been trying for years to arrange it . It's thanks to your films !!! they have all been watching them and are now as keen to test themselves out on a small grouse day as I am . Thanks mr Carrie I will let you know how we get on . I won't need to worry about them being courteous of the neighbors birds!!!! ( poaching buggers the lot of um )
Hey Dave. Good to see guns from overseas enjoying some classic British sport and not afraid to say so. Keep up the support for our sport. What chokes were you using on the grouse?
great job, great video again!!! Congrats! beside i have a question: your barrel seems to jump heavyly in shooting . after using first barrel. is it cause of changing birds after hitting the first?but it jumps similar in the second shot.your personal way of shooting?hard hitting cartridges?in difference: barrel of the shooter at arround min.8 of the video holds the line constantly...
Hi Johann thanks for your interest and keen eye to detail, now and again i will get a flinch and this usually happens when a target suddenly alters direction either through strong winds (especially when clay shooting) or when i change my mind on the target in this case a fast flying grouse "still got him tho"
Mr Carrie apart from being an amazing shot you are a great ambassador for our way of life. I am a dog man and that’s my main interest I do shoot a lot but I’m better with a whistle than I am with a gun😀
Its thanks to the dog men and the rest of the helpers around a shoot that ultimately makes a great day in the countryside - Thanks for all your help Kieth
You point out the successes of Lapwings and Curlews. No mention of Hen Harriers and their fate on Grouse moors - why? As a kid I used to see them in a city woodland. Thanks to Grouse moors England practically has none left - 2017 I think there were 3 pairs...
I think there has been fault all round here Tom, shooting especially grouse shooting has impacted on birds of prey heavily in the past, this was probably the old style Victorian gamekeeping (tooth and claw eradicate all) carrying on into these modern times, certainly the shooting world should have learned to work with a society that demands to see all nature living together in a more manageable sense, this is happening now and reaping benefits as all hen harrier numbers are well up from previous years, but obviously this sympathetic tone as took far too long to indoctrinate into the gamekeeping world and for me should have been implemented some 50 years ago, but its great to see the organisations teaching tolerance and learning the modern keeper to work with the avian predators “like never before” and it’s working. Thanks for the comments great debate DC
@@DaveCarrieShooting Thanks for your reply. Attitudes have certainly improved in the past hundred years or so, I fully agree, plus your comment suggest that you are 100% on side. However, there still seems to be a minority of gamekeepers who can have a large effect on certain populations - particularly Hen Harriers but there have also been dozens of Golden and White-Tailed Eagles killed amongst others. Perhaps more pressure from within the shooting industry would help to convince these few to change their ways? I'm sure you are very aware of the negative press the industry has been getting lately - if anyone is going to get Grouse shooting banned it will be those who are flouting wildlife laws, which would be a shame for the compliant gamekeepers. I don't consume animal products myself, but I try to see the positives in certain industries that are less harmful than others. If the Grouse industry didn't cause any environmental damage or persecute raptors I would be it's biggest supporter despite my beliefs - wild animals > factory farming any day of the week. I am interested on your thoughts on the Langholm experiment too - I'm no expert on these particular matters but news reports suggest that driven grouse shooting cannot continue in its current form and remain profitable www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-49959091?intlink_from_url=www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c256e4nyv04t/grouse&link_location=live-reporting-story Great debate like you said, and full respect for replying and acknowledging the problems which many others refuse to. If everyone had the same attitude driven Grouse shooting would almost certainly not be on the news agenda!
Tom Coe Thanks for your brilliant outlook on the industry and the respect for the flora and fauna, I agree wholeheartedly with everything you say and it is nice to have such a balanced conversation between two people of perhaps different backgrounds, but if you really look into both the souls of anti and pro- the only difference would be the killing of something!! Take that element out of the frame and they become quite the same two persons!! Conservationists and country folk, the only impasse is the harvest of one creature at the cost of another, if everyone could come to some sort of respectful agreement and agree that in today’s world that it would be difficult to have a countryside as manicured and diverse as ours without the shooting sports and our many diverse pastimes. Langholm is a prime example of sympathetic interference that failed. Thank you for your input Tom!! It is worthy of a mention in anybody’s book 👏👏👏
When I was a boy (OMG anther one you say, well yes!) At 10 I started beating at the Hever estate (be patient). The guns were made up of royalty, industrialists and conservative MP's. Who then understood the ways of estate management, conservation and the land. They helped to protect it. Sadly those men have gone. Look at the mess now.
Dave ,another great video and smart beard. Is there no way you could persuade one of the TV channels to look at what we the real countrymen know is best for the countryside.The so called conservationists seem to have there warped and distorted countryside paraded to the innocent general public, isn't it time we had the chance to show the wonderful true place we live and work so hard to keep.Just because we are shooting men and women it doesn't mean we don't love our Countryside, just the opposite we love it so much we have put our whole lives into the management and carefull stuardship of it and for the most it doesn't look beautiful.
the only way we will return to mainstream TV is through someone funding a series and then trying to sell it to sky or other mainstream but even then it would have to on a purely educational basis with very little shooting, the quickest way is to do something bad with a gun and it is instant coverage, it is the way of the world i am afraid - bad news conquers all
You completely ignore the fact that the moor you are on is grazed by sheep so it's not allowed to return to a natural state. Over grazing prevents the return of trees and keeps biodiversity down.
Complete rubbish - sheep grazing is managed on moorland to rotationally graze specific areas, excessive grazing is exactly what moorland management aims to prevent as this is massively detrimental to the heather structure and therefore the biodiversity of the moor. The 'natural' state of a moorland is a myth, they have been managed by man since the beginning of man and without the management would return to trees like you mentioned - large tracts of forestry have a much lower biodiversity index than these managed moors, I know which environment I'd rather see...
@@mattsmith6994I too enjoy the moorland and walk there regularly with my friends in the Vegan Ramblers but I would far rather see them as forests occupied by deer and perhaps even wild lynx. It’s a mystery to me why anyone would want to shoot birds for fun. You might like to read Mark Avery’s book, Inglorious which explains the harm done by driven grouse shooting.
@@Zeroclimber I have to disagree here John, forestry occupied by wild lynx is a pipe dream I'm afraid introducing an apex predator with no natural control is asking for trouble... as for forest occupied by deer compared to managed moorland occupied by hundreds of species of birds, mammals, insects and vital flora and fauna this is a no brainer... heather moorland is the U.K.s rainforest and without careful management we will lose it - whilst you may fail to see why people shoot birds this is a bi-product of moorland management, an off-shoot of a much bigger picture, if people could stop using an emotional response to a conservation and management issue we would all sing off the same hymn sheet. I have read Mr Avery's book, it is articulately written and cleverly worded but hangs strongly on here-say, assumption and lacks scientific evidence and fact... it is a book for anti-shooters written by an anti-shooter
Yes it is fun but that includes all that goes with it !! enjoyable killing is a trait that most of so called humanity is born with - them that scoff at reality are always surprised at what a man can do whilst smiling -most of them that shoot are law abiding folk whilst nearly all killers of fellow man (especially mass murders) were either cat lovers or dog lovers- hitler loved his Alsatian but slaughtered millions of mankind - l love my shooting but I also love conserving our own natural bird/animal species that would disappear quite quickly if not for the shooting man
No criticism of you Dave but I cringed when I watched this. I cringed because one passionate individual has put together such a simple, straightforward and honest film that should have been done by one of shooting originations. You are doing what others should be doing, it clearly can be done but we are failed, although not by you. I've not always agreed with everything you've said and done and I've had some debate with you in the past however this video is exceptional. I think it's time the larger shooting community took on a figurehead to take to the media and woke up to "Dave Carrie"....the new Jack Hargreaves!
Thanks Robert - nothing wrong with a good debate - things get sorted sooner!!, i am no Jack Hargreaves (great man) i am probably too controversial for most of the shooting community and countryside, but as it done the shooting sports any good at all by staying quiet and un controversial for all these years??
Fantastic once again mr Carrie , we cannot let our wonderful moors end up like that barren desert in the first part of your film. I think we all have a lot of work to do in educating non shooting people and I take my hat off to you for what you're doing sir
Thanks David
David Carrie you are the best! Great man.
Love your advocacy.
Thanks for the accolade James (i do not really deserve it) there are far too many others doing great work that deserve much more credit than what they get
The music in your videos just relax me and I want to watch all of your shows I'm glad I stumbled across you here. I've never seen anything like it.
Another outstanding video Dave !!!! Always looking forward to the next one !!!!!!
thankyou you are too kind
Another great video thanks Dave really look forward to them
got some beauties coming up
What a lovely video Dave, the photography in this one is sublime and the message is equally important. It always makes my day when you put up a new one and I've got to say the new look suits you! Very sweet couple of incomers at about the 9 minute 20 something second mark......nicely shot, as always.
Thanks and best regards from the US.
Thanks Edward always nice to hear from you
Great video as usual Dave and always sensible informative information provided for those less fortunate to understand the true management required in our beautiful countryside....
Too right Giles and great to hear from you again
Hi Dave your looking well 👍 .great video once again from you and your team keep up the great work .
Kind Regards Darell .
Thanks Darell
Like the beard! Good to see you looking fit and well; another great video, viral messages! Great timing too!
Thanks John we try our best
Trezmendos Dave! and you look 20 years younger to boot! Have a great season and I so look forward to many more vlogs over the coming months/years! Bring it on young man 👌
Thanks Andrew - i will be bringing loads for everyone this year
Probably your best film to date Dave! Well done
Thanks Chris
I know we kicked off on a disagreement but I look forward to these films. Some of these channels are losing there way unfortunately. However you ARE a true ambassador For shooting and the countryside and what i call A PROPER SHOOTING MAN. All the best mate.
Thanks my friend - out of fierce debate comes understanding and greater friendships, your opinion is always greatly valued
great video and very well put need the general public see this and understand why we do what we do, keep up the good work use the platform you have to good use thank for your work .
Thankyou Jason i will always do my best to get the message out for the shooting community and the countryside sports
Aptly conceived. The conservation angle of game shooting could do with more attempts like this. Great work Dave. You look refreshingly different though. :-)
Thanks Aseem - your comments are much appreciated
Dear Mr. Carrie, great video again!👍👍👍 I can't believe that the number of people who could not understand the correlations of things going on in nature is still increasing. What must happen, that they will check that their "way" is a bad way for our beloved countryside. I think that if people start to take action in the cycle of nature they have to keep this way going on (Do not stop moorland management!), otherwise everything will run out of control and the damage to our nature would be so big that nobody could imagine what will happen. Unfortunately we have to experience it the hard way (fire, flooding, loss of diversity...). I hope, that things will change soon (before it is too late) for our nature and the countrysports. Kind regards from Austria
Thanks Bernd B your explanation is very accurate
Bring it on Dave.Thought M.W. shot pretty well with your gun😁.Good to see the film back up for all the right reasons.👍.I know the time it takes to put these films together even on an amateur/hobby level.Our countryside and pursuits need this kind of input.Much appreciated.
Thanks my friend its not easy as you know
Watching in NZ. Nice to see a kiwi on your show....
What moor is this
Hi Dave, Cristobal from Rotterdam. Happy New Year, wishing you a prosperous and healthy 2025. I am curious, I understand that you shoot with the same shotgun the grouse as the pheasant and I assume that it is a shotgun that shoots high, when you go to the moor do you need to aim more and be more aware of the barrels when shooting the grouse or unconsciously adjust the underneath shot. Appreciate your comments. Thank you again
@@cristobaltoral-p5t hi Cristobal, yes I do use the same gun for all my shooting apart from any small bore days, you are correct my guns shoot high , in a grouse situation I shoot as normal for most scenarios but consciously flattening my cheeks on the stock for long or close low flat crossers adding more pressure the closer the low crossing shot
Thanks Dave for sharing! Have a nice weekend !
Dave , we are off on our first ever go at the grouse September 11th a sindicate of low land farmers excited and nervous 😬 Any tips from the master ???
farmers will not need tips, they will have shot plenty of pigeon in the past, treat them like pigeon as if they are going to try and escape, on grouse be very alert and ready, soon as you see one get that gun mounted and moving if you dither he'll be gone, do not worry over neighbors birds get them shot there is no poaching in grouse shooting it is all fair game.
good luck stay safe
and enjoy
Thanks Dave , we are all counting down the days already !! BnB booked in the local pub it's going to be a yearly treat from now on . I've been trying for years to arrange it . It's thanks to your films !!! they have all been watching them and are now as keen to test themselves out on a small grouse day as I am . Thanks mr Carrie I will let you know how we get on . I won't need to worry about them being courteous of the neighbors birds!!!! ( poaching buggers the lot of um )
Just keeps getting better only criticism not long enough Dave should be a hr long each episode
Thanks Phillip would be great if we could get on mainstream TV
Hey Dave. Good to see guns from overseas enjoying some classic British sport and not afraid to say so. Keep up the support for our sport. What chokes were you using on the grouse?
Thanks Bill your comments are much appreciated, i was using 3/4 3/4
great job, great video again!!! Congrats!
beside i have a question: your barrel seems to jump heavyly in shooting . after using first barrel. is it cause of changing birds after hitting the first?but it jumps similar in the second shot.your personal way of shooting?hard hitting cartridges?in difference: barrel of the shooter at arround min.8 of the video holds the line constantly...
Hi Johann
thanks for your interest and keen eye to detail, now and again i will get a flinch and this usually happens when a target suddenly alters direction either through strong winds (especially when clay shooting) or when i change my mind on the target in this case a fast flying grouse "still got him tho"
Do you sell those caps Dave 👍
£16 inclusive of postage within GB
fantastic dave beautiful
Mr Carrie apart from being an amazing shot you are a great ambassador for our way of life. I am a dog man and that’s my main interest I do shoot a lot but I’m better with a whistle than I am with a gun😀
Its thanks to the dog men and the rest of the helpers around a shoot that ultimately makes a great day in the countryside - Thanks for all your help Kieth
What's up with this new look?
I think it's a good look for Dave. He seems a bit slimmer as well. Must be that healthy country livin'.
@@danhill6333 too true Dan plenty of game birds and gym work and an odd Nandos
You point out the successes of Lapwings and Curlews. No mention of Hen Harriers and their fate on Grouse moors - why? As a kid I used to see them in a city woodland. Thanks to Grouse moors England practically has none left - 2017 I think there were 3 pairs...
I think there has been fault all round here Tom, shooting especially grouse shooting has impacted on birds of prey heavily in the past, this was probably the old style Victorian gamekeeping (tooth and claw eradicate all) carrying on into these modern times, certainly the shooting world should have learned to work with a society that demands to see all nature living together in a more manageable sense, this is happening now and reaping benefits as all hen harrier numbers are well up from previous years, but obviously this sympathetic tone as took far too long to indoctrinate into the gamekeeping world and for me should have been implemented some 50 years ago, but its great to see the organisations teaching tolerance and learning the modern keeper to work with the avian predators “like never before” and it’s working.
Thanks for the comments great debate
DC
@@DaveCarrieShooting Thanks for your reply.
Attitudes have certainly improved in the past hundred years or so, I fully agree, plus your comment suggest that you are 100% on side. However, there still seems to be a minority of gamekeepers who can have a large effect on certain populations - particularly Hen Harriers but there have also been dozens of Golden and White-Tailed Eagles killed amongst others. Perhaps more pressure from within the shooting industry would help to convince these few to change their ways? I'm sure you are very aware of the negative press the industry has been getting lately - if anyone is going to get Grouse shooting banned it will be those who are flouting wildlife laws, which would be a shame for the compliant gamekeepers.
I don't consume animal products myself, but I try to see the positives in certain industries that are less harmful than others. If the Grouse industry didn't cause any environmental damage or persecute raptors I would be it's biggest supporter despite my beliefs - wild animals > factory farming any day of the week.
I am interested on your thoughts on the Langholm experiment too - I'm no expert on these particular matters but news reports suggest that driven grouse shooting cannot continue in its current form and remain profitable www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-49959091?intlink_from_url=www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c256e4nyv04t/grouse&link_location=live-reporting-story
Great debate like you said, and full respect for replying and acknowledging the problems which many others refuse to. If everyone had the same attitude driven Grouse shooting would almost certainly not be on the news agenda!
Tom Coe
Thanks for your brilliant outlook on the industry and the respect for the flora and fauna, I agree wholeheartedly with everything you say and it is nice to have such a balanced conversation between two people of perhaps different backgrounds, but if you really look into both the souls of anti and pro- the only difference would be the killing of something!! Take that element out of the frame and they become quite the same two persons!! Conservationists and country folk, the only impasse is the harvest of one creature at the cost of another, if everyone could come to some sort of respectful agreement and agree that in today’s world that it would be difficult to have a countryside as manicured and diverse as ours without the shooting sports and our many diverse pastimes.
Langholm is a prime example of sympathetic interference that failed.
Thank you for your input Tom!! It is worthy of a mention in anybody’s book
👏👏👏
42seconds in who on earth is that man ? Sounds like dave but doesnt look it
fit as fiddle now
@@DaveCarrieShooting blimey you look so different in such a short amount of time well done you mate did the misses starve ya ?
I thought it wer Eddie Jordan 😀 looking good Dave great video as usual 👍
good film, sad to see the over and unders , on the moors,
Thought I heard a Kiwi accent. Lovely!
John Lindeman a great friend of mine and a true countryman
Legend good on you tell them how it is 👍👍👍👍
When I was a boy (OMG anther one you say, well yes!) At 10 I started beating at the Hever estate (be patient). The guns were made up of royalty, industrialists and conservative MP's. Who then understood the ways of estate management, conservation and the land. They helped to protect it. Sadly those men have gone. Look at the mess now.
A very true account William of days gone by
Dave ,another great video and smart beard. Is there no way you could persuade one of the TV channels to look at what we the real countrymen know is best for the countryside.The so called conservationists seem to have there warped and distorted countryside paraded to the innocent general public, isn't it time we had the chance to show the wonderful true place we live and work so hard to keep.Just because we are shooting men and women it doesn't mean we don't love our Countryside, just the opposite we love it so much we have put our whole lives into the management and carefull stuardship of it and for the most it doesn't look beautiful.
the only way we will return to mainstream TV is through someone funding a series and then trying to sell it to sky or other mainstream but even then it would have to on a purely educational basis with very little shooting, the quickest way is to do something bad with a gun and it is instant coverage, it is the way of the world i am afraid - bad news conquers all
You completely ignore the fact that the moor you are on is grazed by sheep so it's not allowed to return to a natural state. Over grazing prevents the return of trees and keeps biodiversity down.
Complete rubbish - sheep grazing is managed on moorland to rotationally graze specific areas, excessive grazing is exactly what moorland management aims to prevent as this is massively detrimental to the heather structure and therefore the biodiversity of the moor. The 'natural' state of a moorland is a myth, they have been managed by man since the beginning of man and without the management would return to trees like you mentioned - large tracts of forestry have a much lower biodiversity index than these managed moors, I know which environment I'd rather see...
@@mattsmith6994I too enjoy the moorland and walk there regularly with my friends in the Vegan Ramblers but I would far rather see them as forests occupied by deer and perhaps even wild lynx. It’s a mystery to me why anyone would want to shoot birds for fun. You might like to read Mark Avery’s book, Inglorious which explains the harm done by driven grouse shooting.
@@Zeroclimber I have to disagree here John, forestry occupied by wild lynx is a pipe dream I'm afraid introducing an apex predator with no natural control is asking for trouble... as for forest occupied by deer compared to managed moorland occupied by hundreds of species of birds, mammals, insects and vital flora and fauna this is a no brainer... heather moorland is the U.K.s rainforest and without careful management we will lose it - whilst you may fail to see why people shoot birds this is a bi-product of moorland management, an off-shoot of a much bigger picture, if people could stop using an emotional response to a conservation and management issue we would all sing off the same hymn sheet. I have read Mr Avery's book, it is articulately written and cleverly worded but hangs strongly on here-say, assumption and lacks scientific evidence and fact... it is a book for anti-shooters written by an anti-shooter
Amazing how people can twist things to excuse killing for fun
Yes it is fun but that includes all that goes with it !! enjoyable killing is a trait that most of so called humanity is born with - them that scoff at reality are always surprised at what a man can do whilst smiling -most of them that shoot are law abiding folk whilst nearly all killers of fellow man (especially mass murders) were either cat lovers or dog lovers- hitler loved his Alsatian but slaughtered millions of mankind - l love my shooting but I also love conserving our own natural bird/animal species that would disappear quite quickly if not for the shooting man
Jim
You still shooting your 32 “ miroku monsters at Grouse!😆
👍👍
No criticism of you Dave but I cringed when I watched this. I cringed because one passionate individual has put together such a simple, straightforward and honest film that should have been done by one of shooting originations. You are doing what others should be doing, it clearly can be done but we are failed, although not by you. I've not always agreed with everything you've said and done and I've had some debate with you in the past however this video is exceptional. I think it's time the larger shooting community took on a figurehead to take to the media and woke up to "Dave Carrie"....the new Jack Hargreaves!
Thanks Robert - nothing wrong with a good debate - things get sorted sooner!!, i am no Jack Hargreaves (great man) i am probably too controversial for most of the shooting community and countryside, but as it done the shooting sports any good at all by staying quiet and un controversial for all these years??
Ayy oop, just poppin' down t'shop for a loaf of hovis lad
thats me and proud of it
Second to none yet again
thanks Mickry Johns
This is romanticism