Clark's transformation into Clark Zeddyscream continues. Now you just need to drop the whole "Just wait for the next patch / mini-set / expansion / rotation, SURELY it'll save the meta! COPIUM " thing and license the "Let's get salty" opening. 🤣
I like new decks, BUT what I NEED is to watch Clark play some "hard to play optimaly" decks. I love watching rogue, warlock, the new discover hunter archtype with 4+ playable decks :)
10:00 that's not bad: there is at least 7 expansions in the game (with the core set) + mini set cards + event cards on this list of 40 cards. If 5 of the great dark beyond cards are good (without the mini set), this just means that the expansion is average in term of impact. Same for the decks, yes they are not meta warping, but inside the top 10, 2-3 of them revolves around new mechanics (asteroid/elemental/hunter/~paladin)
I think Hearthstone has needed a power level decrease in standard for a while. There will be some pain from that. Hopefully, the mini set/rotation will shake the meta up a bit.
The devs even said it in their last balance patch "Our long-term ambition is for the overall power level of the game to be closer to The Great Dark Beyond than the power level of the sets before it, but we think some buffs are warranted and needed to hit our immediate goal encouraging exploration in The Great Dark Beyond." They are totally okay with this set being a total dud and even looking at this last balance patch, they don't really seem to care much since a lot of people keep repeating the sentiment that "The game is too high power level this is good for the game that an entire expansion has 0 impact on the format" Also I don't understand why the devs are pretending that somehow it's Titans, and Badlands fault that shit like Draenei Warrior/Mage and Random Demon Warlock are bad.
The most depressing thing for me is that there's literally 1 possible Priest deck AGAIN. We just had a couple pop up and then bam, dead in the water. You look at something like vicious syndicate, the only 2 decks it lists are zarimi and Reno Priest. Reno is sat at a 45% winrate at top 10k legend. Pain priest has just ceased to exist above low diamond. I'm so fucking tired of playing Zarimi Priest and being told "the next expansion/mini-set will fix it. Just wait. The next expansion is the one"
All the packages that had previous support (pressure points, elemental mage, asteroid shaman, starships with deathrattle ...) had some level of success, all the packages that require alot of synergy and setup (librams, draenei, demonlock, holy priest, shadowlock, choose one druid, arcane druid, amongus DH, spell bursts that are not oracle, big spell shaman...) are too inconsistent and the thing that they do is too "fair" to justify this inconsistency. They either need to make cards that work with more broad requirements for sinergy, or a higher amount of cards for each specific package.
@@eps-dt7jp that's what happens, but that clearly is not satisfying for players, every single expansion they do that to a class, of "teasing" the mechanic they will at some point play but somehow can't yet, players get frustrated and complain. So I suggest they change this methodology since all this does is frustrate players that wanted to play with new cards but can't yet because of an external factor that will at some point happen
Truth has been spoken. This meta is the same before the expansion. Decks like starship druid, draenei warrior/priest are just so weak. But let's buff Talgath
It is not trash level... it just the other cards and strategies are really better. The point is most cards of these year in General are pretty weak when you compare with the last year. You see TITAN and Badlands are the most used cards in most of the lists, so the problem lies there, where most of the strongest cards are from these expansions.
I agree with this expansion. And I agree with what I hope Blizz is trying to do, scale back the power level and make the game more board based. However, I really like the theme and cards from this expansion so the sad part about all of this is that this expansion is going to not be remember much. Too underpowered to play until next cycle but by then how much longer will it be in rotation? Not much?
Clark, when I realized what you were doing with this video, I want you to know, I waited in eager anticipation of your statements on spore queen Moldara. I shush’d other people to listen to it. God, I’m so salty it’s a one-card theme. Been for a month. Why is there not a single Warrior card supporting this thing? She can’t be the only thing on the planet, she can’t be the only of her species. *sigh*
It's quite depressing i like the start of this expansion with emg rogue, spell damage druid, rainbow dk, lynessa paladin, zarimi priest, overheal priest right now it's not even fun anymore the only deck that is still interesting is attack dh and discover hunter, but it's already getting old after more than a month. I was just returning to hearthstone last October but it does feel like we're in the middle of rastakhan rumble. It's just not as interesting.
Class identity should be a base for the classes words written to be ignored, and now days because of power creep, cardraw on demand and op neutrals its in an all time low, and it sucks because that means there is not a reason to play some clases orver another and thast really bad, which is another reason why Zephrus should NEVER be nack on standar , there i said it
The problem with draenei is going to be the miniset. Normally The Miniset would fix the problems with archetypes who arnt doing so well BUT... the miniset will be centered around starcraft... a different franchise where draeneis dont exist. WHICH MEANS there probably wont be able any new cards for draeneis in it & THEN u look at the themes of next year you got... Emerald Dream aka a Night elf / tauren / troll set then Ungoro remix aka a dinosaur set & finally the only one with potential for draenei the alternate timeline set. SOOO by the time draenei will rotate the tribe wont get additional support. WHICH IS my problem with the miniset nauthing else I think a starcraft miniset is neat but draenei shouldnt have been introduced as a tribe
Imo, Asteroid Shaman is pretty great right now. Most people just use the wrong list, (it’s not a “burn deck” since Magma was nerfed, stop trying to play it like one). 😉
@@samurai_8917 The key is to slow down enough to include Hagatha, Frosty Decor, and Meteor Storm, and cut the silly, “hyper aggro” 💩 like Novice Zapper. You don’t win until turn 9/10, (oh noes), but it’s MUCH more consistent, and ultimately has a LOT more dmg to draw into. 😉
Clark, you may hate Attack demon Hunter, but you need to keep in mind that there are no other successful archtypes for Demon Hunter. Pirates recently got nerfed due to Shaman, and even that was a counterable deck. There is no other place to go as a DH player... unless you want themm to be forced into Amogus DH which has a laughable track record.
ive given enough to hearthstone, time emotion, hope. been uninstalled for a while now. feels great. im holding on to the content just out of support for the makers of the content. but honestly i typed this message in encouragement and then didnt watch the rest of the video.
I simply hate the the new theme. These cards do nothing for me. Hearthstone has been in decline for a long time now. Too many cards that offer too many options at ridiculousky low mana costs. I really miss the simple days of cards that had no silly battlecries, dearhrattles, etc. Not all cards need to have effects associated with them...
States within 2 minutes of the video of why the meta is the way it is, and then spends the next portion of it. Just being mad about that. Yep. They made it super weak for the last set of the year. And then when they do the rotation everything should level out. Oh well
Well your halfway there take your dog for a walk don't get all addicted to having to login to HS and UA-cam. Every expansion bothers me because the game design needs an overhaul.I want the game to be fought ONLY on board spells can only hit minions NOT face UNLESS we get to play with a stack or summoning sickness so that we can actually interact with our opponents plays you know PVP wtf is pvp with no actual pvp. This STUPID design would be like a football play the QB passes to a receiver and the defense cannot do ANYTHING until AFTER the offense is done with their downs then it is HERE your turn now lol. As for the cards I disagree on the power level it is very strong Jaeden is as powerful as most cards in the game you can never be fatigued and the cards you get from the portal are stronger every turn to the point they are unstoppable.I love the Oracle card I get a bit angry when I hear people saying let's nerf it.Ok yeah let's allow Rogue for years tro draw their entire deck within 7 turns but other classes are not allowed to draw cards umm yeah good idea .../not.Ok so Rogue can abuse it well we addressed one problem Sonya and spells here is a better option QUIT printing stupid OP cards that break the game and have a tremendous advantage over other class legendaries. One more gripe QUIT reprinting the same cards with a different name/pic and a slight tweak but does the exact same thing as the last 16 cards printed the same.
If blizzard cared enough about their game they would rotate all of the previous expansions early and allow the new expansion cards to actually be played. Too bad blizzard rarely does anything right in hearthstone.
@@Hokeypokey236 What a well thought out and constructive piece of criticism from the genius known as Hokeypokey236. Please enlighten us with your superior knowledge and wisdom sir.
@heavyd834 right, because your own baseless claim is filled to the brim with facts to support it, and not, in fact, just a claim as equally baseless as the one I made myself. My opinion is that your solution would be bad, but this is an outcome neither one of us can control. This doesn't really need to get deeper than that
@@Hokeypokey236 What I'm trying to figure out is why you even replied to my message at all. I didn't want or need to hear from some random guy on the internet that they thought my idea was bad. I also don't understand what you get out of bashing some random guy on the internet's ideas, other than to inflate your sense superiority and/or intelligence over the internet.
@heavyd834 well, I don't understand why you think you should be able to share your opinion openly to the public without it being subject to criticism, but my response was more a shot from the hip than an intention to deliberately ruffle your feathers, for what it's worth. I appreciate very direct, honest feedback, even if it's negative, and try to do the same in kind. I appreciate your own honesty, as well, and if you found my criticism too harsh or blunt, I do apologize. Hopefully, you believe me when I say it's more about the opinion itself and my appreciation for candid feedback than it is a personal attack on you for being brave enough to state it openly on the internet.
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Cant wait for the World's hunter and warlock decks.
Clark's transformation into Clark Zeddyscream continues. Now you just need to drop the whole "Just wait for the next patch / mini-set / expansion / rotation, SURELY it'll save the meta! COPIUM " thing and license the "Let's get salty" opening. 🤣
ok doomer
Needs a cat, too.
this expansion is joke
I like new decks, BUT what I NEED is to watch Clark play some "hard to play optimaly" decks.
I love watching rogue, warlock, the new discover hunter archtype with 4+ playable decks :)
10:00 that's not bad: there is at least 7 expansions in the game (with the core set) + mini set cards + event cards on this list of 40 cards. If 5 of the great dark beyond cards are good (without the mini set), this just means that the expansion is average in term of impact. Same for the decks, yes they are not meta warping, but inside the top 10, 2-3 of them revolves around new mechanics (asteroid/elemental/hunter/~paladin)
I think Hearthstone has needed a power level decrease in standard for a while. There will be some pain from that. Hopefully, the mini set/rotation will shake the meta up a bit.
The devs even said it in their last balance patch
"Our long-term ambition is for the overall power level of the game to be closer to The Great Dark Beyond than the power level of the sets before it, but we think some buffs are warranted and needed to hit our immediate goal encouraging exploration in The Great Dark Beyond."
They are totally okay with this set being a total dud and even looking at this last balance patch, they don't really seem to care much since a lot of people keep repeating the sentiment that "The game is too high power level this is good for the game that an entire expansion has 0 impact on the format"
Also I don't understand why the devs are pretending that somehow it's Titans, and Badlands fault that shit like Draenei Warrior/Mage and Random Demon Warlock are bad.
You're absolutely right!
They went too hard with the power creep. Until rotation it's going to be slow going for standard.
The solution is very simple actually. Did It come out last year? add 2 mana to it's cost, easy.
Spore Empress Moldara should at least draw a card in addition to summon a 5 drop lol
The most depressing thing for me is that there's literally 1 possible Priest deck AGAIN. We just had a couple pop up and then bam, dead in the water. You look at something like vicious syndicate, the only 2 decks it lists are zarimi and Reno Priest. Reno is sat at a 45% winrate at top 10k legend. Pain priest has just ceased to exist above low diamond.
I'm so fucking tired of playing Zarimi Priest and being told "the next expansion/mini-set will fix it. Just wait. The next expansion is the one"
Here’s the solution stop playing priest and pick up another class.
Priest will never get better. It’s been like this for years.
All the packages that had previous support (pressure points, elemental mage, asteroid shaman, starships with deathrattle ...) had some level of success, all the packages that require alot of synergy and setup (librams, draenei, demonlock, holy priest, shadowlock, choose one druid, arcane druid, amongus DH, spell bursts that are not oracle, big spell shaman...) are too inconsistent and the thing that they do is too "fair" to justify this inconsistency. They either need to make cards that work with more broad requirements for sinergy, or a higher amount of cards for each specific package.
Futher support of new archetyes comes within next 1-3 expansions. It is like most typical thing in hearthstone expansions.
@@eps-dt7jp that's what happens, but that clearly is not satisfying for players, every single expansion they do that to a class, of "teasing" the mechanic they will at some point play but somehow can't yet, players get frustrated and complain. So I suggest they change this methodology since all this does is frustrate players that wanted to play with new cards but can't yet because of an external factor that will at some point happen
Asteroid shaman is fair how? Dying from deck on turn 8 or 9 to shudderblock into bolide behemoth
@@chadgamer6942 i didnt call it fair, i called it successful
@fabriciocastrovizzotto9106 ah i misread
Truth has been spoken. This meta is the same before the expansion. Decks like starship druid, draenei warrior/priest are just so weak. But let's buff Talgath
Wish I could go back in time and unspend all my gold for this set. Emerald Dream is probably going to be awesome!
It is not trash level... it just the other cards and strategies are really better.
The point is most cards of these year in General are pretty weak when you compare with the last year. You see TITAN and Badlands are the most used cards in most of the lists, so the problem lies there, where most of the strongest cards are from these expansions.
if zergling becomes a dh and not a warlock card imma lose my shit
Play elemental shaman!! It’s still very strong off meta!!
demon warlock is finally good with kiljaeden so im happy
I agree with this expansion. And I agree with what I hope Blizz is trying to do, scale back the power level and make the game more board based. However, I really like the theme and cards from this expansion so the sad part about all of this is that this expansion is going to not be remember much. Too underpowered to play until next cycle but by then how much longer will it be in rotation? Not much?
Let's see if things change when the StarCraft miniset arrives.
Maybe you should use this time to learn BGs a bit more? I'll gladly help when I'm in chat, though I only recently started playing it a lot again.
Just play that 300 armor warlock deck.
You could troll hearthpwn for some unique trashpiles and try to tweak them for ladder? Idk the deck building process can be content
LOVE this video and agree with ya!!!!’ Love this man
Clark, when I realized what you were doing with this video, I want you to know, I waited in eager anticipation of your statements on spore queen Moldara. I shush’d other people to listen to it. God, I’m so salty it’s a one-card theme. Been for a month. Why is there not a single Warrior card supporting this thing? She can’t be the only thing on the planet, she can’t be the only of her species. *sigh*
There were new decks seeing play but I'm pretty sure you complained about that as well, remember quasar rogue?
It's quite depressing i like the start of this expansion with emg rogue, spell damage druid, rainbow dk, lynessa paladin, zarimi priest, overheal priest right now it's not even fun anymore the only deck that is still interesting is attack dh and discover hunter, but it's already getting old after more than a month. I was just returning to hearthstone last October but it does feel like we're in the middle of rastakhan rumble. It's just not as interesting.
hi test the new handbuff hunter it is pretty fun
I'm still mad Gelbin Mekkatorque's unplayable
The mini set will surely fix this. Right, guys?
I wish they’d give us priest players something new
the expansion succeeded because it’s going to lower the power of the game. it’s just not relevant until the year rotates. lets be patient gents
let's ramp and win ,, or play meteor shaman 😂
Class identity should be a base for the classes words written to be ignored, and now days because of power creep, cardraw on demand and op neutrals its in an all time low, and it sucks because that means there is not a reason to play some clases orver another and thast really bad, which is another reason why Zephrus should NEVER be nack on standar , there i said it
The problem with draenei is going to be the miniset. Normally The Miniset would fix the problems with archetypes who arnt doing so well BUT... the miniset will be centered around starcraft... a different franchise where draeneis dont exist. WHICH MEANS there probably wont be able any new cards for draeneis in it & THEN u look at the themes of next year you got... Emerald Dream aka a Night elf / tauren / troll set then Ungoro remix aka a dinosaur set & finally the only one with potential for draenei the alternate timeline set. SOOO by the time draenei will rotate the tribe wont get additional support. WHICH IS my problem with the miniset nauthing else I think a starcraft miniset is neat but draenei shouldnt have been introduced as a tribe
Imo, Asteroid Shaman is pretty great right now. Most people just use the wrong list, (it’s not a “burn deck” since Magma was nerfed, stop trying to play it like one). 😉
i mean its kinda a burn/control/otk deck. Whatever it is, its strong!
@@samurai_8917 The key is to slow down enough to include Hagatha, Frosty Decor, and Meteor Storm, and cut the silly, “hyper aggro” 💩 like Novice Zapper. You don’t win until turn 9/10, (oh noes), but it’s MUCH more consistent, and ultimately has a LOT more dmg to draw into. 😉
Clark, you may hate Attack demon Hunter, but you need to keep in mind that there are no other successful archtypes for Demon Hunter. Pirates recently got nerfed due to Shaman, and even that was a counterable deck. There is no other place to go as a DH player... unless you want themm to be forced into Amogus DH which has a laughable track record.
ive given enough to hearthstone, time emotion, hope. been uninstalled for a while now. feels great. im holding on to the content just out of support for the makers of the content. but honestly i typed this message in encouragement and then didnt watch the rest of the video.
Stockholm syndrome?
I simply hate the the new theme. These cards do nothing for me. Hearthstone has been in decline for a long time now. Too many cards that offer too many options at ridiculousky low mana costs. I really miss the simple days of cards that had no silly battlecries, dearhrattles, etc. Not all cards need to have effects associated with them...
wow did u just watched zeddy?😂
Why play talgath when you have tar...
States within 2 minutes of the video of why the meta is the way it is, and then spends the next portion of it. Just being mad about that.
Yep. They made it super weak for the last set of the year. And then when they do the rotation everything should level out. Oh well
Clark just make some different videos when stale happens then return to hs.
Also you can make wild and arena content :)
Might have to get a job? Bummer.
Well your halfway there take your dog for a walk don't get all addicted to having to login to HS and UA-cam.
Every expansion bothers me because the game design needs an overhaul.I want the game to be fought ONLY on board spells can only hit minions NOT face UNLESS we get to play with a stack or summoning sickness so that we can actually interact with our opponents plays you know PVP wtf is pvp with no actual pvp.
This STUPID design would be like a football play the QB passes to a receiver and the defense cannot do ANYTHING until AFTER the offense is done with their downs then it is HERE your turn now lol.
As for the cards I disagree on the power level it is very strong Jaeden is as powerful as most cards in the game you can never be fatigued and the cards you get from the portal are stronger every turn to the point they are unstoppable.I love the Oracle card I get a bit angry when I hear people saying let's nerf it.Ok yeah let's allow Rogue for years tro draw their entire deck within 7 turns but other classes are not allowed to draw cards umm yeah good idea .../not.Ok so Rogue can abuse it well we addressed one problem Sonya and spells here is a better option QUIT printing stupid OP cards that break the game and have a tremendous advantage over other class legendaries.
One more gripe QUIT reprinting the same cards with a different name/pic and a slight tweak but does the exact same thing as the last 16 cards printed the same.
Play Wild if you are bored and find new interesting decks
If blizzard cared enough about their game they would rotate all of the previous expansions early and allow the new expansion cards to actually be played. Too bad blizzard rarely does anything right in hearthstone.
That is one of the worse ideas I've heard
@@Hokeypokey236 What a well thought out and constructive piece of criticism from the genius known as Hokeypokey236. Please enlighten us with your superior knowledge and wisdom sir.
@heavyd834 right, because your own baseless claim is filled to the brim with facts to support it, and not, in fact, just a claim as equally baseless as the one I made myself.
My opinion is that your solution would be bad, but this is an outcome neither one of us can control. This doesn't really need to get deeper than that
@@Hokeypokey236 What I'm trying to figure out is why you even replied to my message at all. I didn't want or need to hear from some random guy on the internet that they thought my idea was bad. I also don't understand what you get out of bashing some random guy on the internet's ideas, other than to inflate your sense superiority and/or intelligence over the internet.
@heavyd834 well, I don't understand why you think you should be able to share your opinion openly to the public without it being subject to criticism, but my response was more a shot from the hip than an intention to deliberately ruffle your feathers, for what it's worth.
I appreciate very direct, honest feedback, even if it's negative, and try to do the same in kind. I appreciate your own honesty, as well, and if you found my criticism too harsh or blunt, I do apologize.
Hopefully, you believe me when I say it's more about the opinion itself and my appreciation for candid feedback than it is a personal attack on you for being brave enough to state it openly on the internet.
you know? they need to nerf the cost of launch a starship, is so much build up and then pay 5 extra mana, is really what kills starship decks.
I would make launching the starship free
Bro everything is a failure with you give it a rest