The exact same thing happened to me a few weeks ago to my M20. I managed to bodge a bigger screw and a mini bolt to “fix” the plastic back on but ended up buying a carbon rock guardz bash guard. The Rise definitely needs extra protection down there! So many strikes!!
Great idea with the Magic Mary. I cut out part of a plastic bottle of 'Skin So Soft' midge repellant to make a temporary rear shock guard on my old Commencal Meta 5.5 back in 2006 .... and it's still going strong! So tempted to pull the trigger on the Rise M15 but still think I'm too young for an eMTB as I'll only be 61 next week 😆
Likewise with the piece of MM 👍 Re the M15, yeah, keep putting it off and just think of aaaaaaall the fine and miles you're missing out of in favour of the old school leg burn👌👍😁😂
@@OldNorthern_eMTBer You’re absolutely right! Life’s too short and retirement is for enjoying ourselves. Pretty much every route out of our wee town (Aberaeron) is like Alp d’Huez and I’m no Miguel Indurain 😂 Thanks for posting your inspirational videos 👍
@@Ddraig62SPD Thanks for the nice comment, glad you like the vids. Aberaeron eh, been there a few times camping when the kids were younger and stayed in a B&B and restaurant which is now the Summer Grill. Had the best steak ever in the restaurant, 40 quid mind but feck geergeous! Now go get that mobility scooter and go explore ✊✊
@@OldNorthern_eMTBer Ah, the Summer Grill. I know it well! Bill does great food there. The vibe has changed a bit here post-covid as a few establishments have changed hands and restaurant prices are getting obscene. Maybe I’ll get over 60s discount at the mobility scooter shop 😂
Had the exact same failure of the bash plate a few days ago. Nice solution, I may have to try that! (have the original worn out rekon tires laying around)
Nice job finding an alternate and much cheaper solution. I would be concerned that the tire could could cause an OTB if it catches on something. I think having something slick like the plastic that was there would be safer for you but probably not as protective as the MM tire. I wonder if a longer screw and washer could be used to hold up an alternative plastic covering. Not sure what I would use, maybe the plastic from a bucket?
It's a tried and tested bodge, I fit the same on my Wild if I know its going to be rocky. I considered fitting a longer screw but I'd still be in the same position. It was a rock that got flicked up so it would still smash the plastic protector, not the best material to use but hey. The strap is nice and tight and grips onto the tread of the tyre. Nice and cheap and it works 👍
Magic Mary is going to have some friction with obstacles and get peeled off, no? A slick plastic cover, like stock, should have less friction, and slide over the rock/stick. The velcro strap riveted to the crappy cover near the original screw hole, would be my choice.
Hi, It was a rock that got thrown up at speed so if I did repair it, it would just get smashed again. It's rubbish material, not a well thought out design or material choice.
@@OldNorthern_eMTBer Makes no sense the use of plastics these days when you expend thousands of Euros in a eMTB. Well I hope it lasts and no water comes in.
@@anivalzgz The plastic motor cover/protector isn't waterproof, the plastic cover is there to 'protect' the motor. Likewise, my hack isn't waterproof, its just there to stop rock strike damage. Yes, brittle plastic isn't ideal..... 🤦🏻♂️
The screw was still in place. It's supposed to be a 'bsh guard' or 'motor protector', not much use if it is designed to break? No, it's just a rubbish choice of material. If it had more flex or impact resistance such as rubber it woukd be great, rocks woukd bounce off and the motor would be protected.
Broke my plastic cover on my cube . They wanted £45 + £20 p+p . I repaired it with £3 fine aluminium mesh and a soldering iron . Making a cheque plate aluminium bash guard soon . Retail £35 . Me £8 for a sheet of plate which will make at least 6 😏
Totally agree on the flimsiness of a m4 screw holding on a bash plate!! On the range extender, I have the M10 Rise and once the range extender is used up the the display shows 3 out of the 5 bars left and does not reset to 100%. Wish it would as initially it was quite confusing getting my head around how much juice was left. Which display are you using? How do you find the Rise compared to the Wild? Cheers for subscribing
Hi Ewan, happy to subscribe, it's nice to see what other Rise riders are up to. Interesting about the empty extender and 3 bars? I'm sure the info said (or eluded to) the display going to 100% once the extender was exhausted? I'll find out tomorrow and I'll get back to you. Will be a bit of a pain if it doesn't and yes, very confusing. I swapped out the e7000 b/w display for the SC-EM800 colour display. Mainly because my eyes couldn't read what mode I was in. Easier now just looking at a colour. I bought the Rise to use for big single day rides and bike parks, more DH and jumpy stuff. I love my Wild and won't get rid of it because that is my big multi-day adventure bike because I can remove the battery and charge them in the B&Bs overnight. If the Rise could do that I'd probably look to sell the Wild. Yiu watch, the 2023 Rise will have a removable 540wh battery, then I'll have a decision to make 😂
@@OldNorthern_eMTBer I have the EM800 display and do like the colour option. I see the range extender I have is not the 2.0 version you are showing. The manual I have shows it how I describe it, which is real primitive as it would be great to know what the exact percentage is. Instead if I'm showing 4 bars that means I am somewhere between 80-61% of the TOTAL of both batteries combined. Experience shows that 3 bars showing means the extender is exhausted. You could shut the bike down and disconnect the extender then reboot and would show 5 bars for the bike battery. You would think Orbea in this day and age would have a better system, though looks like they have got there finally with 2.0 as you have. How do you find the extra torque from the Wild to the Rise? Just love what these bikes can blast up as some of the trails I might have been up for on a conventional bike 20-30yrs ago as they would have been a major push. Ebikes are such a game changer to me in my 50's, every ride you have a smile on your face! Cheers Ewen
@@-ewen Fingers crossed after tomorrow I'll be able to report that Orbea have got it sorted and the display resets to 5 bars, watch this space 🤞🙏 The power from the Wild is great, just the job on big adventures and are usdone blind. eeeBs really are proper game changers, I'd never have considered doing the Trans Cambrian Way on a regular bike but did it in 18, 19 and 20 and last year, the Welsh North to South in 4 days. Love both the bikes for their different capabilities. Proper boys toys for a 58 year old 😁👌👍
@@OldNorthern_eMTBer Ebikes made for 50yr olds! Used to ride trials bikes and I always looked with envy at the potential on the estates in the Scottish Highlands, obviously they were a no go being motorised. Happy days now with ebikes as you can go anywhere and no one can touch you and they give almost the same level of enjoyment. Slightly envious of the Rise H's and there battery capacity over the carbon M's, give me an aluminium bike any day.
@Ewen Hardie I was looking at a carbon Rise last year but it was a case of wants and needs, I want it but don't need it. When I saw the info on the 2022 Alloy Rise and tge 540 I ummed and arrr'd for a nano second then put my order in. Made me smoke cis Facebook Rise groups lit up with some Carbon Rise owners kicking off about the battery capacity, the alloy frame, the spec and the cheaper price😂.
I had a similar situation with my H20. Didn't crack out the bolt mount but a hole in the middle of the plastic. I wonder how much of an actual protection it is for the motor.
That strap holding on the magic mary is covering the motor a little bit. If you motor overheats and dies.. you better delete this video if you're getting something replaced under warranty. :)
I was going to subscribe but I would ruin the 555 subscriber #! Great info, I am looking at the same bike are you pleased overall with the bike. Definitely like the review of the bash guard, now I am looking at the aftermarket bash guards. Sorry, I ruined you 555 number. Subscriber 556😂
Hi Lance. I'm sure I'll live with the loss of the triple 5😂 Glad you like the vids. A section of old tyre is the future, recycle rather than pay cash for something that tge tyre does better. Yes, I'm very happy with the bike. Lovely to ride especially on the DH stuff. It won't replace the Wild FS, horses for courses and all that. Starting my 3 day Yorkshire Dales adventure tomorrow on the Wild so stay tuned 👍 Good luck getting the your Rise, hope there ain't no supply hold ups and you get it sooner rather than later 👌 P. S. Soz for busting your zero subscriber count. I'm now waiting patiently for your Rise vids 👍😁
"That will do the job perfectly" until you hit the next big rock and the whole make-shift concoction will become undone. No that is not a permanent weather-tight fix. Nice try. Try again.
Weather tight? Not sure where you pulled that one from? Like the original cover, it's not weather tight. Yes, that will do the job perfectly, tried and tested on my Wild. Nice comment but try again. Thanks for watching and be sure to subscribe if you haven't already. Looking forward to watching some of your biking vids when you get round to uploading some 👍
@@OldNorthern_eMTBer It works until it breaks. Depend on the hardness of the impact, the sharpness of the rock, the amount of friction to tear, etc., the velcro can break. Velcro is not metal, and will eventually break.
@@danstenis660 Hi Dan, everything works until it breaks. It's worked for the past 2 years on my Wild so I guess it's proven itself and I'm still in pocket but thanks anyway. Stay tuned for more action 😁👍
The exact same thing happened to me a few weeks ago to my M20. I managed to bodge a bigger screw and a mini bolt to “fix” the plastic back on but ended up buying a carbon rock guardz bash guard. The Rise definitely needs extra protection down there! So many strikes!!
Great idea with the Magic Mary. I cut out part of a plastic bottle of 'Skin So Soft' midge repellant to make a temporary rear shock guard on my old Commencal Meta 5.5 back in 2006 .... and it's still going strong! So tempted to pull the trigger on the Rise M15 but still think I'm too young for an eMTB as I'll only be 61 next week 😆
Likewise with the piece of MM 👍 Re the M15, yeah, keep putting it off and just think of aaaaaaall the fine and miles you're missing out of in favour of the old school leg burn👌👍😁😂
@@OldNorthern_eMTBer You’re absolutely right! Life’s too short and retirement is for enjoying ourselves. Pretty much every route out of our wee town (Aberaeron) is like Alp d’Huez and I’m no Miguel Indurain 😂 Thanks for posting your inspirational videos 👍
@@Ddraig62SPD Thanks for the nice comment, glad you like the vids. Aberaeron eh, been there a few times camping when the kids were younger and stayed in a B&B and restaurant which is now the Summer Grill. Had the best steak ever in the restaurant, 40 quid mind but feck geergeous! Now go get that mobility scooter and go explore ✊✊
@@OldNorthern_eMTBer Ah, the Summer Grill. I know it well! Bill does great food there. The vibe has changed a bit here post-covid as a few establishments have changed hands and restaurant prices are getting obscene. Maybe I’ll get over 60s discount at the mobility scooter shop 😂
Brilliant mod ,you know the saying, necessity is the mother of invention 😊
Had the exact same failure of the bash plate a few days ago. Nice solution, I may have to try that! (have the original worn out rekon tires laying around)
Nice job finding an alternate and much cheaper solution. I would be concerned that the tire could could cause an OTB if it catches on something. I think having something slick like the plastic that was there would be safer for you but probably not as protective as the MM tire.
I wonder if a longer screw and washer could be used to hold up an alternative plastic covering. Not sure what I would use, maybe the plastic from a bucket?
It's a tried and tested bodge, I fit the same on my Wild if I know its going to be rocky. I considered fitting a longer screw but I'd still be in the same position. It was a rock that got flicked up so it would still smash the plastic protector, not the best material to use but hey. The strap is nice and tight and grips onto the tread of the tyre. Nice and cheap and it works 👍
Magic Mary is going to have some friction with obstacles and get peeled off, no? A slick plastic cover, like stock, should have less friction, and slide over the rock/stick. The velcro strap riveted to the crappy cover near the original screw hole, would be my choice.
The bike/motor cover didn't slide over anything, it was a rock that got flicked up at speed during the descent.
@@OldNorthern_eMTBer 10-4, I get it.
Hi, if it is ABS plastic with a soldering iron you can melt back together the pieces broken in the engine cover. Have a good one cheers!
Hi, It was a rock that got thrown up at speed so if I did repair it, it would just get smashed again. It's rubbish material, not a well thought out design or material choice.
@@OldNorthern_eMTBer Makes no sense the use of plastics these days when you expend thousands of Euros in a eMTB. Well I hope it lasts and no water comes in.
@@anivalzgz The plastic motor cover/protector isn't waterproof, the plastic cover is there to 'protect' the motor. Likewise, my hack isn't waterproof, its just there to stop rock strike damage. Yes, brittle plastic isn't ideal..... 🤦🏻♂️
Perhaps that screw is intentionally small so it breaks away without messing up the motor.
The screw was still in place. It's supposed to be a 'bsh guard' or 'motor protector', not much use if it is designed to break? No, it's just a rubbish choice of material. If it had more flex or impact resistance such as rubber it woukd be great, rocks woukd bounce off and the motor would be protected.
Broke my plastic cover on my cube .
They wanted £45 + £20 p+p .
I repaired it with £3 fine aluminium mesh and a soldering iron .
Making a cheque plate aluminium bash guard soon . Retail £35 .
Me £8 for a sheet of plate which will make at least 6 😏
Its a rip off aint it
Any tips on where to get a replacement battery or motor?
A Range Weenie, That is a new one on me !!!
I know, I just made that up on the day, maybe it will stick? 😂
thats brilliant!!
Totally agree on the flimsiness of a m4 screw holding on a bash plate!!
On the range extender, I have the M10 Rise and once the range extender is used up the the display shows 3 out of the 5 bars left and does not reset to 100%. Wish it would as initially it was quite confusing getting my head around how much juice was left. Which display are you using?
How do you find the Rise compared to the Wild?
Cheers for subscribing
Hi Ewan, happy to subscribe, it's nice to see what other Rise riders are up to. Interesting about the empty extender and 3 bars? I'm sure the info said (or eluded to) the display going to 100% once the extender was exhausted? I'll find out tomorrow and I'll get back to you. Will be a bit of a pain if it doesn't and yes, very confusing. I swapped out the e7000 b/w display for the SC-EM800 colour display. Mainly because my eyes couldn't read what mode I was in. Easier now just looking at a colour. I bought the Rise to use for big single day rides and bike parks, more DH and jumpy stuff. I love my Wild and won't get rid of it because that is my big multi-day adventure bike because I can remove the battery and charge them in the B&Bs overnight. If the Rise could do that I'd probably look to sell the Wild. Yiu watch, the 2023 Rise will have a removable 540wh battery, then I'll have a decision to make 😂
@@OldNorthern_eMTBer I have the EM800 display and do like the colour option. I see the range extender I have is not the 2.0 version you are showing. The manual I have shows it how I describe it, which is real primitive as it would be great to know what the exact percentage is. Instead if I'm showing 4 bars that means I am somewhere between 80-61% of the TOTAL of both batteries combined. Experience shows that 3 bars showing means the extender is exhausted. You could shut the bike down and disconnect the extender then reboot and would show 5 bars for the bike battery. You would think Orbea in this day and age would have a better system, though looks like they have got there finally with 2.0 as you have.
How do you find the extra torque from the Wild to the Rise? Just love what these bikes can blast up as some of the trails I might have been up for on a conventional bike 20-30yrs ago as they would have been a major push. Ebikes are such a game changer to me in my 50's, every ride you have a smile on your face!
Cheers
Ewen
@@-ewen Fingers crossed after tomorrow I'll be able to report that Orbea have got it sorted and the display resets to 5 bars, watch this space 🤞🙏
The power from the Wild is great, just the job on big adventures and are usdone blind. eeeBs really are proper game changers, I'd never have considered doing the Trans Cambrian Way on a regular bike but did it in 18, 19 and 20 and last year, the Welsh North to South in 4 days. Love both the bikes for their different capabilities. Proper boys toys for a 58 year old 😁👌👍
@@OldNorthern_eMTBer Ebikes made for 50yr olds! Used to ride trials bikes and I always looked with envy at the potential on the estates in the Scottish Highlands, obviously they were a no go being motorised. Happy days now with ebikes as you can go anywhere and no one can touch you and they give almost the same level of enjoyment.
Slightly envious of the Rise H's and there battery capacity over the carbon M's, give me an aluminium bike any day.
@Ewen Hardie I was looking at a carbon Rise last year but it was a case of wants and needs, I want it but don't need it. When I saw the info on the 2022 Alloy Rise and tge 540 I ummed and arrr'd for a nano second then put my order in. Made me smoke cis Facebook Rise groups lit up with some Carbon Rise owners kicking off about the battery capacity, the alloy frame, the spec and the cheaper price😂.
I had a similar situation with my H20. Didn't crack out the bolt mount but a hole in the middle of the plastic. I wonder how much of an actual protection it is for the motor.
Not a great deal of protection really, a token gesture. I'd have come up with some much better. Orbea, if you ever read this, get in touch 👍😂
Can you use up the main battery first then take the range extender out of your backpack and plug it in?
I guess so ...
Nice hack with the MM :)
Does the job perfectly 👌
That strap holding on the magic mary is covering the motor a little bit. If you motor overheats and dies.. you better delete this video if you're getting something replaced under warranty. :)
Overheating motors due to a cover, that always makes me smile.
@@OldNorthern_eMTBer I'm talking about the velcro strap on the side that you added where the heat is dispersed, not the rubber.
I was going to subscribe but I would ruin the 555 subscriber #! Great info, I am looking at the same bike are you pleased overall with the bike. Definitely like the review of the bash guard, now I am looking at the aftermarket bash guards. Sorry, I ruined you 555 number. Subscriber 556😂
Hi Lance. I'm sure I'll live with the loss of the triple 5😂 Glad you like the vids. A section of old tyre is the future, recycle rather than pay cash for something that tge tyre does better. Yes, I'm very happy with the bike. Lovely to ride especially on the DH stuff. It won't replace the Wild FS, horses for courses and all that. Starting my 3 day Yorkshire Dales adventure tomorrow on the Wild so stay tuned 👍 Good luck getting the your Rise, hope there ain't no supply hold ups and you get it sooner rather than later 👌
P. S. Soz for busting your zero subscriber count. I'm now waiting patiently for your Rise vids 👍😁
Any way it’s cheaper to skip meals to make you lighter
range is pretty dependent on weight
Yeah, I know....👍
"That will do the job perfectly" until you hit the next big rock and the whole make-shift concoction will become undone. No that is not a permanent weather-tight fix. Nice try. Try again.
Weather tight? Not sure where you pulled that one from? Like the original cover, it's not weather tight. Yes, that will do the job perfectly, tried and tested on my Wild. Nice comment but try again. Thanks for watching and be sure to subscribe if you haven't already. Looking forward to watching some of your biking vids when you get round to uploading some 👍
You do know how velcro works right Dan 🤔
@@TheJackoelliott 😂🤣
@@OldNorthern_eMTBer It works until it breaks. Depend on the hardness of the impact, the sharpness of the rock, the amount of friction to tear, etc., the velcro can break. Velcro is not metal, and will eventually break.
@@danstenis660 Hi Dan, everything works until it breaks. It's worked for the past 2 years on my Wild so I guess it's proven itself and I'm still in pocket but thanks anyway. Stay tuned for more action 😁👍