Great job Erik and you're right those little imperfections are what makes it special sometimes so we can appreciate the work that goes into it.Great video and what an amazing view you have from your shop.Take care
+Al Furtado (Rebel Wood Turner) As far as seeing the patterns I use to work in textile printing and trained my eye to work like a strobe in order to see a pattern being printed at 100 yards per min and focus on it as a still image to catch defects. some speeds of course worked better than others.in this case you filming at 30 frames per sec and if the piece is rotating at 600 you will se a full image as you are only spinning at 60 rpm if you blink your eyes fast enough you can see a still image.
+Al Furtado (Rebel Wood Turner) Stroboscopic Zoetrope effect. I used to make textile designs just as concepts for myself but never did anything with them, my mother's side of the family were in the textile industry. Thanks Al I really enjoy your feedback.
Woohoooo Erik, just a short note to say thank you for all of your videos & especially for taking the time to explain & show how you're doing it. You're making a big difference in my turning & I bet in a lot of other folks as well. To date, I've utilized the following ideas/techniques with great success: 1. Your excellent finishing technique, WOW what a great finish 2. The mdf touch-up wheel 3. Technique for turning winged bowls 4. Technique for tight fitting lids 5. The 45 degree non-powered sander 6. Lots of other ones as well. Thanks Again & Best Regards, Jon
Nice job Erik, the inlay thickness must exactly match the blade kerf and even then it is finicky, I have done several and even when I got the sizes right on the darn thing would slip in glue up so I am going to make a jig to hold everything aligned the next time I do one, and if I get it right I will make a bunch of blanks while I have the process correct. I have made several pens that came out real nice and used the bandsaw to get the thin kerf for that small diameter and people loved them. They look cool and are fun. Thanks for sharing Erik, great work, and I loved that slight bulged center I have to try that.
+John Bare Thanks John. I want to get a better shop setup sometime in the not too distant future so I could make some jigs to make these more efficiently as well. Thanks for watching and I hope you get your jig all sussed out and made.
Doing Celtic knots is a lot like segmented bowls. A small error in one aspect leads to cumulative errors in the whole. Even with a right-angled gluing fixture, ostensibly to avoid slippage during glue-up, the problem will still present itself. My hint (because the explanation is too long for a comment) is to think centerlines, not references from an end like most approaches advocate. Nonetheless, thanks for letting me visit your shop again. --Joe
+Joseph Scarborough Thank you so much, I agree it is all about a center line and that is how I approach it. I mark out the kerf line and then if it goes off a bit I correct as much as possible the center line and let everything else do whatever as long as glue jounts are tighr a 1/32" here or there is no big deal as long as the center lines is good and the stock remains the exact same thickness, which is where mine drifted primarily. I just band sawed a strip and hand beltsanded it to a thickness that varied a bit, not much but enough. I am happy with the end result and beautiful imperfection is all I ever strive for.
Very neat piece! The patterns came through and thanks for showing that. Glad your getting needed rain. We use a nutribullet to make kale/spinach/fruit smoothies. They make a good power breakfast!
+Diane Luke Thanks Diane these are fun to make and the rain is great and glad you have smoothies with Kale especially. We have been doing beet, celery,apple,ginger,kale juice and it is amazing power food.
Very nice work Erik. I haven't done one of these knots yet but I'm thinking of incorporating one into a vase. Using walnut as the inlay and honey locust as the body. Take care my friend and do a kindness Mark
Superb demonstration Erik! I had ago at making similar a few months ago the first one failed because not enough glue and clamping was awkward( it fell to bits lol) so I made a simple little jig up to hold it together while the glue dried for the second attempt ... much better that time. Now I have just purchased a chop saw and I would like to try again in the future using that instead of my table saw, Great video Erik ! Take care , Bram.
Erik, re: @2:30 Right now, I'm setting up on my table saw to make the same cut. You CAN leave a bit of material, using a table saw. I've set up a temporary jig in one of my sleds to hold the piece at the correct angle. I raised the blade to within about 3/16" of going all the way through. It's been awhile since I've done a Celtic K-not. So, I came to you for a refresher on it. (My sliding miter saw can't cut a straight line to save its life - the blade flexes.)
All I can say is give it a try and see how it goes. The key is replacing exactly the same amount you remove. Seems like that should work just oversize your piece enough.
Yeah. I've done it this way before. I've got one of the pieces in and under clamps, now. It's actually the third piece. I had already inserted two square-cut pieces, to frame the design. Those were relatively easy. I sure enjoy your videos.
Looks Great The rain looked nice to I know you all have been very dry we have had a wetter year so far this year in Kentucky but that is alright with me Thanks For Sharing
That looks really good. We like to moan about the rain in Ireland... then someone shows us how lucky we are. I'm glad you are getting rain, I have a cousin in California and he was telling me about the water shortage this weekend when he was home.
+baconsoda Thanks Brendan, there are a lot of reasons that Ireland is lucky! They have characters like you is one of the many reasons why Ireland is so lucky.
Very informative video Erik. Like Mark, I've been meaning to try this since watching your original video, but haven't as yet got round to it. Hopefully it won't be to long now. ...as they say. .so much to do and no time to do it. Glad you're getting some much needed rain. Take care Mule
+Mike Waldt Thanks Mule, I really hope you give it a go when you can and it is much easier when you leave a bit of the blank uncut as I showed in my first vid. The kid on Pens For College does a smashing job showing the process and ends up with a terrific pen.
The patterns came through great when you turned the piece at different speeds.. Nice piece. It would of been nice to see the square block with contrasting wood inlays before you turned it. Also how you clamped the wood while the glue dried.
+Brian Binns You can watch my other video on making one on the bandsaw which is a better way to make one of these less clamping hassle. look up celtic knot canister on my channel if you haven't seen it yet. Perhaps I will revisit this again.
I'm late again Erik but I much appreciate this upload with a beautiful finished project. I've just got my first table saw as I want to try segmenting so next on my list will be a chop saw. As Brendan (Baconsoda) below comments we in Ireland have had that rainy view almost non stop for the past six months and we complain. However, I think it's preferable to having such a prolonged drought as you have been experiencing in Calif. Best wishes, Alan.
+Alan Simpson Thank you Alan and we are getting much needed rain and of course as always in California we get so much that the coast is falling into the sea and mudslides are happening and sinkholes are opening up and trees are falling on houses. I just hope we start getting regular rain showers with breaks for the ground to absorb the water. Thank you so much Alan. I do very little segmenting myself but it is nice if you have the room for a tablesaw, lathe, chopsaw, stationary sander, planer, bandsaw and workbench and hand tools. I dont have all that room in my shop so when it is nice I can pull out my small rolling contractors tablesaw and miter sled. The wedgie sled for segmenting looks great. I want to make one and get a few of the wedgies. Hope you like it. Thanks again!
Hello Alan I just posted a new video turning a piece of the boxwood you sent me some years back and it came out great, I used my new Lyle Jamieson hollowing system to hollow it out. Hope you enjoy seeing the boxwood become a vase!
I think "Squeezed" is correct, but I too like "Squose" better. ;-D Northern Cal huh? I'm just on the other side of the mountain then. Northwest Nevada. Perhaps some sort of gluing jig would help keep things aligned...but I think you're right, the imperfections give it character. Nice work.
When you want the pieces to stay put use a tiny bit of salt when gluing up. Before the salt disolves the 'grit' will hold the pieces in alignment. BTW, please save all that water as we don't need to be giving away any of lake Erie. LOL
+wood Thanks Wood! good one and I know I have seen that trick before but with these pieces being at an angle they continue to slide. I just need to make a good jig.
One I saw was two pieces of hardwood glued together giving you a 90 degree angle. Clamping one piece to hold it you can glue the other pieces and use anotehr clamp to keep them aligned, then another clamp or two to pull them together. Very effective.
I've thought probably too much about this. Actual Celtic knots weave over and under each ribbon. However, this process will end up with the first ribbon under all of the others, and the last one above all of the others. I wonder if there is a way to do this that will more closely match the standard Celtic knot pattern.
Erik, I was just thinking about how they slide when gluing up each time. It did that on me too. Just struck me, why not drill a centre hole through the centre of core then as you add each wafer drill it to match the hole and place a dowel in it so when clamping it can't shift. Just a thought! I'm gonna try it when I can
Hi Erik great video. I don't know if you would be interested but years ago I made some pens with the Celtic knot. Same design as yours and similar in making with yours but the biggest difference is that I used a jig for the band saw and the blank turned round first (over sized). If you are interested let me know and I will post it for you. Cheers Mark this is the link content.penturners.org/library/techniques/6-strand-celtic-knot.pdf
Great job Erik and you're right those little imperfections are what makes it special sometimes so we can appreciate the work that goes into it.Great video and what an amazing view you have from your shop.Take care
+Al Furtado (Rebel Wood Turner) As far as seeing the patterns I use to work in textile printing and trained my eye to work like a strobe in order to see a pattern being printed at 100 yards per min and focus on it as a still image to catch defects. some speeds of course worked better than others.in this case you filming at 30 frames per sec and if the piece is rotating at 600 you will se a full image as you are only spinning at 60 rpm if you blink your eyes fast enough you can see a still image.
+Al Furtado (Rebel Wood Turner) Thanks Al!
+Al Furtado (Rebel Wood Turner) Stroboscopic Zoetrope effect. I used to make textile designs just as concepts for myself but never did anything with them, my mother's side of the family were in the textile industry. Thanks Al I really enjoy your feedback.
Woohoooo Erik, just a short note to say thank you for all of your videos & especially for taking the time to explain & show how you're doing it.
You're making a big difference in my turning & I bet in a lot of other folks as well.
To date, I've utilized the following ideas/techniques with great success:
1. Your excellent finishing technique, WOW what a great finish
2. The mdf touch-up wheel
3. Technique for turning winged bowls
4. Technique for tight fitting lids
5. The 45 degree non-powered sander
6. Lots of other ones as well.
Thanks Again & Best Regards,
Jon
+rcwarship Thank you for sharing this with me it makes me feel great and I am glad you are employing some of my techniques and tricks. Peace!
Your canister is great, I must try one, Great news also about the rain. Here's hoping it continues,
+Leslie Barker Thank you Leslie! We are getting a bit more coming in.
Nice job Erik, the inlay thickness must exactly match the blade kerf and even then it is finicky, I have done several and even when I got the sizes right on the darn thing would slip in glue up so I am going to make a jig to hold everything aligned the next time I do one, and if I get it right I will make a bunch of blanks while I have the process correct. I have made several pens that came out real nice and used the bandsaw to get the thin kerf for that small diameter and people loved them. They look cool and are fun.
Thanks for sharing Erik, great work, and I loved that slight bulged center I have to try that.
+John Bare Thanks John. I want to get a better shop setup sometime in the not too distant future so I could make some jigs to make these more efficiently as well. Thanks for watching and I hope you get your jig all sussed out and made.
Very nice celtic knot Erik, Great video very well demonstrated and explained,
Best wishes Harry
+The Little Garden Shed Workshop Thank you Harry these are so fun!
Doing Celtic knots is a lot like segmented bowls. A small error in one aspect leads to cumulative errors in the whole. Even with a right-angled gluing fixture, ostensibly to avoid slippage during glue-up, the problem will still present itself. My hint (because the explanation is too long for a comment) is to think centerlines, not references from an end like most approaches advocate.
Nonetheless, thanks for letting me visit your shop again.
--Joe
+Joseph Scarborough Thank you so much, I agree it is all about a center line and that is how I approach it. I mark out the kerf line and then if it goes off a bit I correct as much as possible the center line and let everything else do whatever as long as glue jounts are tighr a 1/32" here or there is no big deal as long as the center lines is good and the stock remains the exact same thickness, which is where mine drifted primarily. I just band sawed a strip and hand beltsanded it to a thickness that varied a bit, not much but enough. I am happy with the end result and beautiful imperfection is all I ever strive for.
Very neat piece! The patterns came through and thanks for showing that. Glad your getting needed rain. We use a nutribullet to make kale/spinach/fruit smoothies. They make a good power breakfast!
+Diane Luke Thanks Diane these are fun to make and the rain is great and glad you have smoothies with Kale especially. We have been doing beet, celery,apple,ginger,kale juice and it is amazing power food.
Hi Erik! Beautiful canister and great work on the Celtic Knot! Cheers! Daniel
+Daniel Vilarino Thank you Daniel
Very nice work Erik. I haven't done one of these knots yet but I'm thinking of incorporating one into a vase. Using walnut as the inlay and honey locust as the body.
Take care my friend and do a kindness
Mark
+MARK Baid It would be interesting in a vase for sure and depending on the vase shape it might do some other interesting geometric patterning.
Superb demonstration Erik! I had ago at making similar a few months ago the first one failed because not enough glue and clamping was awkward( it fell to bits lol) so I made a simple little jig up to hold it together while the glue dried for the second attempt ... much better that time. Now I have just purchased a chop saw and I would like to try again in the future using that instead of my table saw, Great video Erik ! Take care , Bram.
+Brams shed Thanks Bram
Erik, re: @2:30
Right now, I'm setting up on my table saw to make the same cut. You CAN leave a bit of material, using a table saw. I've set up a temporary jig in one of my sleds to hold the piece at the correct angle. I raised the blade to within about 3/16" of going all the way through. It's been awhile since I've done a Celtic K-not. So, I came to you for a refresher on it. (My sliding miter saw can't cut a straight line to save its life - the blade flexes.)
All I can say is give it a try and see how it goes. The key is replacing exactly the same amount you remove. Seems like that should work just oversize your piece enough.
Yeah. I've done it this way before. I've got one of the pieces in and under clamps, now. It's actually the third piece. I had already inserted two square-cut pieces, to frame the design. Those were relatively easy. I sure enjoy your videos.
Looks Great
The rain looked nice to I know you all have been very dry we have had a wetter year so far this year in Kentucky but that is alright with me
Thanks For Sharing
+Jerry Puckett Thanks Jerry!
That looks really good. We like to moan about the rain in Ireland... then someone shows us how lucky we are. I'm glad you are getting rain, I have a cousin in California and he was telling me about the water shortage this weekend when he was home.
+baconsoda Thanks Brendan, there are a lot of reasons that Ireland is lucky! They have characters like you is one of the many reasons why Ireland is so lucky.
Very nice, the Celtic knot is great.
Thanks
Nice job
I was going to send a picture of Celtic knot it's whistle.i don't know how to send it.
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Very informative video Erik. Like Mark, I've been meaning to try this since watching your original video, but haven't as yet got round to it. Hopefully it won't be to long now. ...as they say. .so much to do and no time to do it. Glad you're getting some much needed rain.
Take care
Mule
+Mike Waldt Thanks Mule, I really hope you give it a go when you can and it is much easier when you leave a bit of the blank uncut as I showed in my first vid. The kid on Pens For College does a smashing job showing the process and ends up with a terrific pen.
The patterns came through great when you turned the piece at different speeds.. Nice piece. It would of been nice to see the square block with contrasting wood inlays before you turned it. Also how you clamped the wood while the glue dried.
+Brian Binns You can watch my other video on making one on the bandsaw which is a better way to make one of these less clamping hassle. look up celtic knot canister on my channel if you haven't seen it yet. Perhaps I will revisit this again.
+Erik Anderson
Thanks i did.
Brian Binns Was pretty cool! I would have never thought of something like that
I'm late again Erik but I much appreciate this upload with a beautiful finished project. I've just got my first table saw as I want to try segmenting so next on my list will be a chop saw.
As Brendan (Baconsoda) below comments we in Ireland have had that rainy view almost non stop for the past six months and we complain. However, I think it's preferable to having such a prolonged drought as you have been experiencing in Calif.
Best wishes,
Alan.
+Alan Simpson Thank you Alan and we are getting much needed rain and of course as always in California we get so much that the coast is falling into the sea and mudslides are happening and sinkholes are opening up and trees are falling on houses. I just hope we start getting regular rain showers with breaks for the ground to absorb the water. Thank you so much Alan. I do very little segmenting myself but it is nice if you have the room for a tablesaw, lathe, chopsaw, stationary sander, planer, bandsaw and workbench and hand tools. I dont have all that room in my shop so when it is nice I can pull out my small rolling contractors tablesaw and miter sled. The wedgie sled for segmenting looks great. I want to make one and get a few of the wedgies. Hope you like it. Thanks again!
Hello Alan I just posted a new video turning a piece of the boxwood you sent me some years back and it came out great, I used my new Lyle Jamieson hollowing system to hollow it out. Hope you enjoy seeing the boxwood become a vase!
I think "Squeezed" is correct, but I too like "Squose" better. ;-D Northern Cal huh? I'm just on the other side of the mountain then. Northwest Nevada. Perhaps some sort of gluing jig would help keep things aligned...but I think you're right, the imperfections give it character. Nice work.
+Gil Grace Thanks Gil!
When you want the pieces to stay put use a tiny bit of salt when gluing up. Before the salt disolves the 'grit' will hold the pieces in alignment. BTW, please save all that water as we don't need to be giving away any of lake Erie. LOL
+wood Thanks Wood! good one and I know I have seen that trick before but with these pieces being at an angle they continue to slide. I just need to make a good jig.
One I saw was two pieces of hardwood glued together giving you a 90 degree angle. Clamping one piece to hold it you can glue the other pieces and use anotehr clamp to keep them aligned, then another clamp or two to pull them together. Very effective.
Lol, thought you were making a rolling pin!
Thanks Fritz
I've thought probably too much about this. Actual Celtic knots weave over and under each ribbon. However, this process will end up with the first ribbon under all of the others, and the last one above all of the others. I wonder if there is a way to do this that will more closely match the standard Celtic knot pattern.
+J.L.M. Thank you JLM give it a try and let me know what you come up with. Peace. This is more of an atomic structure.
Erik, I was just thinking about how they slide when gluing up each time. It did that on me too. Just struck me, why not drill a centre hole through the centre of core then as you add each wafer drill it to match the hole and place a dowel in it so when clamping it can't shift. Just a thought! I'm gonna try it when I can
Watch Joe Giannina's Celtic Knot videos he has an easier solution.
Thanks you crusty Swede!!!
be nice to see ya turning it , but...... nicely done
+timothy mcswain You can see me turn another Celtic Knot if you look up Celtic knot canister on my channel.
As Capt. Eddie would say, " Squoze------- That's a technical term."
+james gyorko Thanks James
Beautiful
Thank you FrehleyComet
You squoze me into watching!
+AnkleBiter Woodworks Thank you AB
I like! Saudações Erick. :-)
+Edson Oseas Thank you Edson
set the stop on your chop saw to not go all the way through on the bottom :)
Thanks that is how I do these now, I do lots of them using a Japanese Pull saw and leave a bit of the wood uncut!
Will do thx
👍
Knice Knot
Thanks Lewis
It reminds me a bit of DNA.
+Leslie Barker Indeed it is.
Hi Erik great video. I don't know if you would be interested but years ago I made some pens with the Celtic knot. Same design as yours and similar in making with yours but the biggest difference is that I used a jig for the band saw and the blank turned round first (over sized). If you are interested let me know and I will post it for you. Cheers Mark this is the link content.penturners.org/library/techniques/6-strand-celtic-knot.pdf
+markmiller1549 I always like to see stuff like this thanks I will check it out. Thanks Mark!
Her you go, Erik. lumberjocks.com/projects/249426
Sqwoze
+David Orsillo Exactly So!