Sounds about right, if you want to learn a language like Swedish you are on your own. School only teaches French, Spanish and German and if you want to learn anything else you are just on your own.
I'm doing the same and duolingo doesn't teach you nothing about pronunciation or anything about plurals. It tells you the word in the plural but doesn't explain when to use "na" or "or" at the end at all. If you don't look up UA-cam guides like these then you are getting no where.
The plural for lärare should be lärar and the plural for magiker should be magikern and päronen should be the definite singular of päron and päroner / päronerna should be the indefinite / definite plurals - plurals should never have the same form as the singulars!
Great video as always! Just one observation: For the longest time, it was extremely disorienting for me that indefinite plural forms (äpplen) and definite plural forms (päronen) of ett-words look deceptively like the definite singular forms of en-words. Seems like something that should really be highlighted as a likely source of confusion, because many beginners will likely see forms like äpplen and conclude that this is an en-word äppl + the definite article singuler -en.
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that's exactly what I'm struggling with! It's very confusing!
Greetings from Moscow! Thanks for your time and effort you invest in this project! I'm learning Swedish for about 2 months now, and found out that there are not so many good sources to learn from. I've been listening to your Podcast for a while, and I'm so glad to find this Channel as well. You're doing a great job helping others to learn this beautiful language!
Is there a rule to help know the difference between groups 2 and 3 of the "en" words? Both consonants, AR vs ER. Like with the "polis" example. Do words ending in "s" usually have the "er"? Or is this just learned over time?
@@sayitinswedishis one form more common than the other, like how ‘en’ words are more common than ‘ett’ words? or is it just a case of having to learn each words fairly? great video by the way!!
Hi Joachim! Many thanks for the video, your explanations are gold 🙌🏼 I'd like to know if these are all the plurals possible in Swedish. Perhaps are there irregular nouns? What about those shifting a to ä or o to ö, do they belong to a group/rule? Thanks again
Since it's a loan word, people just declined the word spontaneously when it made its way into Swedish. Since there is already an o there, it's easy to just connect it to the native -or ending, I guess. Good one! I didn't think about this.
There are a few smaller rules, but to be honest having a rule for every single case will just confuse you. Some thing you just have to learn as you go.
I'm a Canadian living in California and currently visiting my Swedish bf(also name Joakim lol) and my accent makes it so hard to say these words but this video helped on pronunciation. Thanks
Hi Joaquin, can I say that words ending in: "e", "el", "er" , "en" or with other consonant in the end we can use the indetermined plural with "AR"? And in foreing words (not swedish words) use "ER" in indetermined plural? The last one I don't no if it's make sense, but I heard this explanation. Tack så mycket
Hello! Maybe someone in the comments could help me - I'm writing a story, and I need a word in Swedish, that a parent may use as a term of endearment. You know, dad calling his daughter sweetheart, princess, troublemaker, stuff like that. Is there a word for that in Swedish that is very popular in families, or just commonly used?
This is something duolingo doesn't really explain. I'm just memorizing the plural without really knowing why. I've seen the pattern, but still. Thank you so much!
Jag var inte medveten om den specifika skillnaden mellan finlandssvenska och rikssvenska. Kan du ge några exempel? Förr i tiden pratade jag finlandsvenska. Men min accent ändrades.
@@sayitinswedish Jag syftade på pluraländelserna. Saken du nämnde i slutet av videon. Jag tror jag förstår vad du menar, men det hade jag inte märkt förut.
What is the plural of "år"? It should be "åren", but it seems that "år" is also acceptable?? folkets-lexikon.csc.kth.se/folkets/folkets.en.html#lookup&år&0 The dictionary says the inflections are "året, år, åren", but it is not clear which one is the plural. Are both år and åren plural forms of år?
Please stop with the exceptions! haha ... it's a bit touch and go so I'm trying to learn them and as you say, get a "gut feeling" for what looks right. It's very complicated though, I'm still muddling it up but I'll get there : ) thanks for your help
I can see that it seems a bit complicated, and sometimes we even don't know ourselves, so that at least loans have several plurals and genders. But hang in there! It's just something you learn with practise.
It helps me a lot learning Swedish grammar in English as I’m English. 😃 If the lessons had been in Swedish, that would have confused me somewhat while learning the language. Hehe. 😄
Just started learning swedish about a few days ago and your content really help in my progress! Keep up the good work 😄
Thanks! Good luck 😊
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Sounds about right, if you want to learn a language like Swedish you are on your own. School only teaches French, Spanish and German and if you want to learn anything else you are just on your own.
I've started learning Swedish for fun on duolingo but I didn't really get the grammar rules of the plural, so thank you for your video!
Yeah, the "rules" can be a bit tricky.
I'm doing the same and duolingo doesn't teach you nothing about pronunciation or anything about plurals. It tells you the word in the plural but doesn't explain when to use "na" or "or" at the end at all. If you don't look up UA-cam guides like these then you are getting no where.
I've been learning Swedish for about two months and this channel has been very helpful. Thank you for the great content :)
I'm happy to help!
The plural for lärare should be lärar and the plural for magiker should be magikern and päronen should be the definite singular of päron and päroner / päronerna should be the indefinite / definite plurals - plurals should never have the same form as the singulars!
Oooooh I’ve been struggling with plural for so long lol... you just made it super easy ! Tack så mycket !
I'm glad!
Very useful thank you . Love Duolingo but some aspects are not explained properly so I learned something new
Duolingo is fun, but not enough :)
Tack så, så, så mycket
Var så god!
I love your channel, when I am learning Swedish I just play your videos on the background.
Keep up the good work!
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Haha, that's super nice. Glad you're enjoying them!
So glad I found your channel. Your Videos are easy to understand and great for a beginner like me. Thanks for the amazing content!
started learning swedish a week ago just for fun, this channel is super useful tysm! :)
I really like the way Swedish handles pluralization and definantce.
would you recommend learn the nouns like: en bil, bilar - car
I love your videos. And I'm a synth addict too!
Tack så jättemycket för det!
Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Great video as always! Just one observation: For the longest time, it was extremely disorienting for me that indefinite plural forms (äpplen) and definite plural forms (päronen) of ett-words look deceptively like the definite singular forms of en-words. Seems like something that should really be highlighted as a likely source of confusion, because many beginners will likely see forms like äpplen and conclude that this is an en-word äppl + the definite article singuler -en.
that's exactly what I'm struggling with! It's very confusing!
Greetings from Moscow! Thanks for your time and effort you invest in this project! I'm learning Swedish for about 2 months now, and found out that there are not so many good sources to learn from. I've been listening to your Podcast for a while, and I'm so glad to find this Channel as well. You're doing a great job helping others to learn this beautiful language!
Hi! Thank you so much.
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Hej hej! Jag har just nu upptäckt dina videor, wow! Great help! Varm hälsning från Grekland!
I'm happy!
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Thank you! Merch is available until the end of the week, for now (=
Thank you!
Really good job, tack så mycket!
Thank you!
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This is so helpful ! Thanks so much!
I'm glad you think that!
Is there a rule to help know the difference between groups 2 and 3 of the "en" words? Both consonants, AR vs ER. Like with the "polis" example. Do words ending in "s" usually have the "er"? Or is this just learned over time?
You can't know from the infinitive form I'm afraid.
@@sayitinswedishis one form more common than the other, like how ‘en’ words are more common than ‘ett’ words? or is it just a case of having to learn each words fairly? great video by the way!!
Hi Joachim! Many thanks for the video, your explanations are gold 🙌🏼
I'd like to know if these are all the plurals possible in Swedish. Perhaps are there irregular nouns? What about those shifting a to ä or o to ö, do they belong to a group/rule? Thanks again
Tack för videon! Det vörklarar det väl :)
Funny how "The videos" is actually "Videorna. Where did that R come from!? :)
Video -> Videon -> Videorna
Since it's a loan word, people just declined the word spontaneously when it made its way into Swedish. Since there is already an o there, it's easy to just connect it to the native -or ending, I guess. Good one! I didn't think about this.
Hey Joakim thanks for the video. What's the best way to find language exchange partners, would you say?
Good question. There are tons of apps out there to find language exchange partners, so I guess you should just try that route. Maybe!
Try this group on Facebook: facebook.com/groups/132967513445101/?ref=share
Hope you don’t mind me sharing this here, Joakim. If so, just remove it 😊
So thrm how do you know what to use for "en" words ending in consonants, since there are 2 rules for consonants? Is there a way to tell?
There are a few smaller rules, but to be honest having a rule for every single case will just confuse you. Some thing you just have to learn as you go.
@@sayitinswedish so some not predictable and are word based?
@@6hypnone yes, some things you just have to know, so you have to learn them as you go.
@@sayitinswedish Ahh. I suppose some English grammar we just kind of "know" as well.
Tho does make stuff harder for beginners.
Very useful. Thank you so much🙇
Awesome!
I'm a Canadian living in California and currently visiting my Swedish bf(also name Joakim lol) and my accent makes it so hard to say these words but this video helped on pronunciation. Thanks
Glad to help!
Great help thx
I'm glad I could help!
Nice! Just started learning and this was very helpful :)
That's awesome!
This is actually a lot more simple than all of my teachers have made it seem. tacka!
Sweet!
Hi Joaquin, can I say that words ending in: "e", "el", "er" , "en" or with other consonant in the end we can use the indetermined plural with "AR"?
And in foreing words (not swedish words) use "ER" in indetermined plural? The last one I don't no if it's make sense, but I heard this explanation.
Tack så mycket
Hello! Maybe someone in the comments could help me - I'm writing a story, and I need a word in Swedish, that a parent may use as a term of endearment. You know, dad calling his daughter sweetheart, princess, troublemaker, stuff like that. Is there a word for that in Swedish that is very popular in families, or just commonly used?
"Gumman" for daughters.
"Gubben" for sons.
Only used when addressing them directly, not used when talking about them.
@@sayitinswedish thank you so much!
i didn't understand the apple examples :/ why is that different from the other 4 groups?
This is something duolingo doesn't really explain. I'm just memorizing the plural without really knowing why. I've seen the pattern, but still. Thank you so much!
how do you say ''dogs''?
Hundar
Jag var inte medveten om den specifika skillnaden mellan finlandssvenska och rikssvenska. Kan du ge några exempel? Förr i tiden pratade jag finlandsvenska. Men min accent ändrades.
Skillnaden ligger mest i ordförråd och uttal.
@@sayitinswedish Jag syftade på pluraländelserna. Saken du nämnde i slutet av videon. Jag tror jag förstår vad du menar, men det hade jag inte märkt förut.
What is the plural of "år"?
It should be "åren", but it seems that "år" is also acceptable??
folkets-lexikon.csc.kth.se/folkets/folkets.en.html#lookup&år&0
The dictionary says the inflections are "året, år, åren", but it is not clear which one is the plural.
Are both år and åren plural forms of år?
@Hartvig Flögh Thanks!
@Hartvig Flögh So it's like barn. Barn, barn, barnen
What about Tiger -> Tigrar How this happend please do let me know?
This is common for words with an unstressed E where the ending is attached.
Finger -> Fingrar
Fågel -> Fåglar
Why is fyrtio pronounced forty? Y is pronounced as yeee right? Please tell me what the exception there is in this pronunciation and spelling
In spoken Swedish, the o is silent. It's pronounced "fyrti" or "furti". Y is not pronounced as "yeee" :)
@@sayitinswedish thank you so much 😊
is the e in the ending "-er", "-erna" and "-en" long or short?
It's short :)
Really tough
Vafan trodde det bara var på måfå men att det faktiskt finns ett system är ju sjukt fränt
Megafränt!
What about the plurals that don’t change like ett djur två djur or ett barn två barn
I did go through those. Päron, päron.
öga/ögon, not ögan? Is this just an exception?
We also have "öra" -> "öron"!
I think it's an old dual form. Not sure.
What did you say at the first ?hei ...what? Sorry I am new suscriptora
I start every video with "Hej allihopa" which means "Hello everybody".
Please stop with the exceptions! haha ... it's a bit touch and go so I'm trying to learn them and as you say, get a "gut feeling" for what looks right. It's very complicated though, I'm still muddling it up but I'll get there : ) thanks for your help
I can see that it seems a bit complicated, and sometimes we even don't know ourselves, so that at least loans have several plurals and genders. But hang in there! It's just something you learn with practise.
Ar du musiker? musikinstrument i din baksida! :D
Jajamänsan. Det är massa synthar i bakgrunden :)
Jag är ledsen..i cant do it..
Wish you spoke Swedish when you explain. I learned English here 🙄
Yeah it makes sense to alianate all beginners by speaking Swedish when explain basic grammar 👍
It helps me a lot learning Swedish grammar in English as I’m English. 😃
If the lessons had been in Swedish, that would have confused me somewhat while learning the language. Hehe. 😄
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New hair? Where your hair?
My hair is in the bin. I regularly switch so this isn't really a shocker. I remove it every summer ;)