Treyarch had em too dude. G11 in Black Ops, The M16 was apeshit if you knew how to land on the right hitbox. Black Ops 2 had the M8, that shit was diabolical chest or above.
***** there wasn't any patch to any weapon in the cod series that reduced damage if they did it wont change the 3,4 hit kill it will only reduce the range of said 3 or 4 hit kill
If you haven't noticed yet all AR's with semi-auto are also a 2 hit kill but with sacrificed ROF. The honey badger with semi-auto is probably my favorite and it keeps up with marksman rifles.
My build on MSBS: My attachment preference is actually putting Full-Auto with its high damage it proves quite good as the fire rate goes up a lot and it reaps people into pieces. Second attachment I like to put it Thermal scope,because its a hybrid I use the Thermal main for scouting on long range and the Red/Holo sight for actual combat. For me it works fine because my play style with it is not run and gun its more move nice steady and deadly. For perks I like to get sprint buffs like Agility and Marathon in my main slots with few more personal upgrades. And I take Specialist and put Scav. so I don't run out of ammo other go into personal upgrades again. Option: Haven't tried this but I will as soon as I play again,the extra attachment on it to put Grip/Silencer one or the other depending on the game. Only game mode where I would use 3 round burst is Hard Core because I can sit back and get long ranged kills easier with thermal. Although all this costs a lot to have its a good class to invest in.Worked for me hope it works for who ever reads this comment as it is my favorite gun.
I used the MSBS (after nerf) and I liked it. I used red dot sight, foregrip, and armor piercing (extra attachment). I know it wasn't the best class set up, but I went completely ham with it
Even nerfed this is a solid gun. F1st just posted a video recently post nerf with 70+ kills. It's crazy they nerf this but don't dare nerf the no skill sniper rifles. Sure they fixed the L11 glitch but the "no Quickscoping in COD Ghosts" was a blatant lie as was AI "emulating humans" when the AI don't even aim down the fucking sights. This game with a few tweaks could be amazing but I doubt Activision or Infinity Ward will make adjustments to make their pre-release statements true statements.
Oh so true on the quickscoping part and the A.I i was quite excited for squad mode and seeing how well the A.I performs and of course they're still incompetent with godlike aim sometimes.
The A.I. emulates humans quite well on Hardened and Veteran. I constantly get ADS'd from pretty far out, they corner camp and dropshot and jumpshot, it's like playing actual multiplayer.
For sights I think the VMR is the best. I got the MSBS gold in about 12 hours of gameplay thanks largely to that sight. It was built for the weapon. Grip and VMR make that gun a juggernaut if you make sure to keep your engagements at medium to medium-long range. You'll have the entire team headhunting you after about 5 minutes but that's what I.E.D's and sentry gun streaks are for. :)
You don't need deadeye because that helps you deal with more damage weapons but the msbs is actually the strongest gun besides the snipers and shotguns.
Ahoy was right to use this with deadeye. The 2 shot range on this gun is insane when combined with muzzle brake. First of all, a deadeye head shot kills anyone within the 27 meters before the damage drops off. You will be able to 2 shot anyone out to 32 meters automatically. If you get just one head shot/one dead eye shot to they body AND a regular body shot, you can kill at 40m. And if you're lucky enough to land 2 deadeye headshots, it will kill out to 57 meters. This gets even more exaggerated when you use semi auto which doesn't have a negative multiplier for limbs and has a 1.1 multiplier for the body as well.
In ghosts, semi auto and burst had the effect of changing the damage multipliers of a gun. Often times it was the body multiplier which made the biggest difference. Usually they would both be 1.1x damage as opposed to 1.0x damage for full auto. Semi was a bit difficult to handle in game. I found it was best used as a sniper suppression class - but that niche was already filled by the DMR class which is why nobody bothered using it. Essentially you're using lots of points to build a higher capacity, lower damage DMR. This game has so many ways to change damage outcomes. Deadeye, burst multipliers, suppressor penalties, chrome lined multipliers, muzzle break/range, rapid fire, and AP rounds. That's why I think burst is still fairly viable. It changes your multipliers and can be use in conjunction with other perks and attachments to ensure the highest kill probability.
Got a killstreak on a guy I was in a 1v1 with using this weapon and he screams into his mic "MSBS? MORE LIKE MSPENIS" He was able to end my streak because I was laughing so hard
Great job, Stu. Unfortunately from IW, less than a great job after the nerf. I am a real bad player and was not able to improve much over the past 2 years playing COD. But with the MSBS before the nerf it was fun, I really enjoyed playing Ghosts. It was my go to class when i was way up in frustration to at least get a little fun out of the game. I understand all this with too much damage and nerfing the damage done to limbs. But, please why also take off range and increase the burst delay? It is all but ineffective and unmanagable now. I hope they would reduce the burst delay a little and make the gun viable again. Enough whining for now ;) Love your work!
XboxAhoy This Gun needs an update...With the new patch this gun is not the same....The Stats on it are slightly different....No to much of a difference....But a Noticeable one...Hope to see a new Vid on this gun "updated" in the future...Love Your Vids
Dead shot has a percent based chance of dealing 40% more damage. With each kill up to 50% chance to deal bonus damage over a range of 4 kills. Once you reach 4 kills dead eye will have a 50% chance to deal extra damage.
Even with the patch, still haven't had a problem with this weapon since I'm always changing weapon classes every round just to be good with any weapon.
Someone forgot to mention the x0.8 multiplier to the limbs that makes the MSBS a 3 hit to 7 hit kill if the shots land there Also it's RPM is 432 not 450. The recent patch did all of this.
Kepothethief you do realise one burst is 3 shots... And every gun in this game is a 3 shot kill... So what do you expect? Every burst gun: M16 CoD4, FAMAS MW2, M16 BO1, T95 MW3, SWAT and M8 BO2 - all were 1 burst kills. So what is the point you are trying to make?
My Call of Duty Time is over, but I am enjoying it still to watch your videos. somehow relaxing ^^ Next CoD i will play is maybe as a father with his son ^^ Keep your unique good work up! Greetz from Germany!
Sammy Sain Stu has said many times that his puns are usually of low effort, its just a nice addition to round off the videos and a small trademark of stu's videos.
they actually just recently patched it, now you need to be accurate for a two shot kill (head shots and chest i think?) while lowering the rof, along with a range reduction. lets save judgement till the new one gets a feel.
Stu, you never mentioned how it performs when fully auto, nor did you include any information regarding its post patch changes, such as negative damage multipliers to extremities or its worsened hipfire and recoil...
I saw on your dev blog that you dream of just doing forza content. If just one week you covered some of the most iconic cars from that game, maybe call it Forza week, I think it'd be a nice refresher.
first M16 in cod4, then famas in MW2, then type 95 in MW3, now this. seems like every infinity ward game must have an overpowered burstfire rifle
I would say the M16 in MW2 is also rather powwered
Treyarch had em too dude. G11 in Black Ops, The M16 was apeshit if you knew how to land on the right hitbox. Black Ops 2 had the M8, that shit was diabolical chest or above.
lol. yet no one used burst weapons. this game's no diffrence, 95% of people use the ak-12, the other 4% the remington. the other 1% idk.
***** Your talking to the CoD kids dude. They don't have any logic. There motto is " If it kills me it's OPed."
***** there wasn't any patch to any weapon in the cod series that reduced damage if they did it wont change the 3,4 hit kill it will only reduce the range of said 3 or 4 hit kill
MSBS: 1 burst to kill a human and 3 bursts to kill a dog...
ironic that you got the doge photo haha
phaha ;p
It wears a ballistic vest lol
CallMeSenpaii_ the soldiers doo too look at them there in full gear and bulletproof vest just like war
cooldude 555 i mean yeah ofc but that’s just cosmetic, technically everyone has 100 health in the game. If they dog had 100, it would be useless.
"And that is no BS" i see what you did there stuart.
POLAND 2 STRONK
(nerfs came)
POLAND BALANCED AND STRONK
This is stupid and I love it.
My last CoD was MW2, but even after so many years I can tell - this gun is OP.
cranking these weapon guides quick
If you haven't noticed yet all AR's with semi-auto are also a 2 hit kill but with sacrificed ROF. The honey badger with semi-auto is probably my favorite and it keeps up with marksman rifles.
yeah its beast, i never use it without, its a melt machine,
I can't believe how good this guy's voice is.
I like the iron sights, even though most people don't like its sights
i saw that pun comming form kilometers away but still awesome
Very smart tactic Stu! Leaving the care so people will get to it!
My Ghosts RTC live comm episode 37 uploaded today! Take a peek, cheers!!
The first 20 seconds are the best!
you should bring back the history of the weapon like what you did in black ops 2. It was always interesting learning about the weapon origins
dude, i've been watching your weapon guides since MW2. They're always great. Thanks
It's been nerfed and you may wanna do the review on the nerfed version
He won't'
Filip Žižak his secretary or something?
theizza68 oooh salty. I possess this knowledge becuase of the information that was given to me at his other channel.
the nerf did not change the strengths and weaknesses of the gun. It remains stronger at range and with muzzle brake makes kills one burst still
still fucking op
Another great video Stu
"Truly. the rapid volley of the MS will decieve your opponent... and that, is no BS"
*Clicks like*
MSBS stands for Modułowy System Broni Strzeleckiej
My build on MSBS:
My attachment preference is actually putting Full-Auto with its high damage it proves quite good as the fire rate goes up a lot and it reaps people into pieces.
Second attachment I like to put it Thermal scope,because its a hybrid I use the Thermal main for scouting on long range and the Red/Holo sight for actual combat.
For me it works fine because my play style with it is not run and gun its more move nice steady and deadly.
For perks I like to get sprint buffs like Agility and Marathon in my main slots
with few more personal upgrades.
And I take Specialist and put Scav. so I don't run out of ammo other go into personal upgrades again.
Option:
Haven't tried this but I will as soon as I play again,the extra attachment on it to put Grip/Silencer one or the other depending on the game.
Only game mode where I would use 3 round burst is Hard Core because I can sit back and get long ranged kills easier with thermal.
Although all this costs a lot to have its a good class to invest in.Worked for me hope it works for who ever reads this comment as it is my favorite gun.
Why long range with full auto that too much recoil
I used the MSBS (after nerf) and I liked it. I used red dot sight, foregrip, and armor piercing (extra attachment). I know it wasn't the best class set up, but I went completely ham with it
Awesome :) I love all the research you put in your videos XboxAhoy
perfect three years later I'm still into this game...this is my favourite gun to use...
after the nerf this weapon became an unreliable, high recoil, bad hipfire, terrible ironsights, 3 rnd burst AR, not recommended...
Full auto needed.
MSBS stands for Modularny System Broni Strzeleckiej (modular system of shooting weapon) this is a bullpup version, standard version looks like ACR.
Even nerfed this is a solid gun. F1st just posted a video recently post nerf with 70+ kills. It's crazy they nerf this but don't dare nerf the no skill sniper rifles. Sure they fixed the L11 glitch but the "no Quickscoping in COD Ghosts" was a blatant lie as was AI "emulating humans" when the AI don't even aim down the fucking sights. This game with a few tweaks could be amazing but I doubt Activision or Infinity Ward will make adjustments to make their pre-release statements true statements.
F1st is a joke of a person though.
Oh so true on the quickscoping part and the A.I i was quite excited for squad mode and seeing how well the A.I performs and of course they're still incompetent with godlike aim sometimes.
The A.I. emulates humans quite well on Hardened and Veteran. I constantly get ADS'd from pretty far out, they corner camp and dropshot and jumpshot, it's like playing actual multiplayer.
Excellent video. Keep up the good work.
This weapon never deserved the nerf it got. Infinity Ward nerfed this weapon in the wrong way, and now it is one of the rarest weapons in the game.
Great job Stu I love how your jumping on them and doing one a day really love how hard your working! Again great job! :)
That end quote tho. Amazing.
Add captions and you've got a documentary.
Logi Cat Which is what he did later in his videos!
For sights I think the VMR is the best. I got the MSBS gold in about 12 hours of gameplay thanks largely to that sight. It was built for the weapon. Grip and VMR make that gun a juggernaut if you make sure to keep your engagements at medium to medium-long range. You'll have the entire team headhunting you after about 5 minutes but that's what I.E.D's and sentry gun streaks are for. :)
looks like a really powerful class
You don't need deadeye because that helps you deal with more damage weapons but the msbs is actually the strongest gun besides the snipers and shotguns.
Anyone just watch these for the pun in the end?
I miss the history of the weapon's development that Stu would have at the beginning of each episode. It's what made his guides unique. :(
Ahoy was right to use this with deadeye. The 2 shot range on this gun is insane when combined with muzzle brake.
First of all, a deadeye head shot kills anyone within the 27 meters before the damage drops off.
You will be able to 2 shot anyone out to 32 meters automatically. If you get just one head shot/one dead eye shot to they body AND a regular body shot, you can kill at 40m. And if you're lucky enough to land 2 deadeye headshots, it will kill out to 57 meters.
This gets even more exaggerated when you use semi auto which doesn't have a negative multiplier for limbs and has a 1.1 multiplier for the body as well.
RogueGhost24 What are the benefits of semi auto anyway?
In ghosts, semi auto and burst had the effect of changing the damage multipliers of a gun. Often times it was the body multiplier which made the biggest difference. Usually they would both be 1.1x damage as opposed to 1.0x damage for full auto.
Semi was a bit difficult to handle in game. I found it was best used as a sniper suppression class - but that niche was already filled by the DMR class which is why nobody bothered using it. Essentially you're using lots of points to build a higher capacity, lower damage DMR.
This game has so many ways to change damage outcomes. Deadeye, burst multipliers, suppressor penalties, chrome lined multipliers, muzzle break/range, rapid fire, and AP rounds. That's why I think burst is still fairly viable. It changes your multipliers and can be use in conjunction with other perks and attachments to ensure the highest kill probability.
RogueGhost24 So you could possibly reach 2 shots at around 70m! I wonder if that means a 1 shot kill? Never played ghosts...
The puns at the end, I love them!
1:09 "Humiliate the next enemy you kill" Stu, or did you leave your tea bags at home?
He's a grown adult.
@@MrMultiPlatform so grown adults can't drink tea?
Yay,second polish gun in CoD history :D
I knew you were going to make a pun of the “bs” in the gun’s name.
I love your endings it always make me laugh. Cuz it fits the gun
I watch the while video just for the pun! Needless to say it was worth it
I got the weapon yesterday and I put on the flash atachment and entended mag it is so op with these atachments
awesome ending ;)
Got a killstreak on a guy I was in a 1v1 with using this weapon and he screams into his mic "MSBS? MORE LIKE MSPENIS"
He was able to end my streak because I was laughing so hard
What Is The RPM Of The Full Auto MSBS?
Great job, Stu.
Unfortunately from IW, less than a great job after the nerf. I am a real bad player and was not able to improve much over the past 2 years playing COD.
But with the MSBS before the nerf it was fun, I really enjoyed playing Ghosts. It was my go to class when i was way up in frustration to at least get a little fun out of the game.
I understand all this with too much damage and nerfing the damage done to limbs. But, please why also take off range and increase the burst delay? It is all but ineffective and unmanagable now.
I hope they would reduce the burst delay a little and make the gun viable again.
Enough whining for now ;) Love your work!
Lol I remember i only used it on full auto and liked it a lot, it was incredibly effective
As always a great weapon guide. Your new style is very fresh. Sadly the MSBS has been nerfed drastically a couple of days ago...
XboxAhoy This Gun needs an update...With the new patch this gun is not the same....The Stats on it are slightly different....No to much of a difference....But a Noticeable one...Hope to see a new Vid on this gun "updated" in the future...Love Your Vids
Dead shot has a percent based chance of dealing 40% more damage. With each kill up to 50% chance to deal bonus damage over a range of 4 kills. Once you reach 4 kills dead eye will have a 50% chance to deal extra damage.
Oh Stu, you are truly the master of puns.
msbs means modułowy system broni strzeleckiej :P
I miss hearing what the weapons acronym means
That firing sound, it's the revenge of the evil FAMAS from Moden Warfare 2. mua-hahahah ! !
Even with the patch, still haven't had a problem with this weapon since I'm always changing weapon classes every round just to be good with any weapon.
Someone forgot to mention the x0.8 multiplier to the limbs that makes the MSBS a 3 hit to 7 hit kill if the shots land there Also it's RPM is 432 not 450. The recent patch did all of this.
Man, I love Poland.
holy shizzle, dat pun
Eleventh episode already?! Wow good job Stu, churning em out and still keepin' it classy. Haha ;•}
MSBS has been nerfed.
he made these videos before the patch came out so...
must be a shitty nerf cause it's still a one burst kill.
Kepothethief You think burst fire guns should always be a two-burst kill? You have no sense of balance.
Kepothethief you do realise one burst is 3 shots... And every gun in this game is a 3 shot kill... So what do you expect? Every burst gun: M16 CoD4, FAMAS MW2, M16 BO1, T95 MW3, SWAT and M8 BO2 - all were 1 burst kills. So what is the point you are trying to make?
***** I wasn't saying i was happy about it, it is unbalanced.
Damage is less than 50 now with the nerf. You can still get a two shot kill with certain body multipliers now.
Love this gun in full auto but I think that the r5 is better
why does this look like a borderlands 2 gun. infact even functions like one.
BEAST CLASS: MSBS foregrip silencer full auto. No secondery lethal or tactical. Perks: slight of hand takedown extra attachments amplify focus
Great pun Stu.
Saw the second part of the pun coming 20 kilometers before it arrived.
My Call of Duty Time is over, but I am enjoying it still to watch your videos. somehow relaxing ^^ Next CoD i will play is maybe as a father with his son ^^
Keep your unique good work up!
Greetz from Germany!
Awesome pun, Stu!
*****
pun was terrible. He used an old one you've heard since that gun was announced. That msbs is bs, not that clever, almost zero effort.
Sammy Sain Stu has said many times that his puns are usually of low effort, its just a nice addition to round off the videos and a small trademark of stu's videos.
Stu, the msbs has a damage of 55 at close range, so, why did you use the perk dead eye, if it will be a 2 shot kill gun anyway?
I m polish
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Dab to be A pigeon Hello, Polish... I'm Hippo
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I love the puns at the end
Am I the only guy who laugh at this gun's walking animation?
Can your first LMG be the M27-IAR?
MSBS IS THE TYPE 95 in MW3
they actually just recently patched it, now you need to be accurate for a two shot kill (head shots and chest i think?) while lowering the rof, along with a range reduction. lets save judgement till the new one gets a feel.
As always, very accurate! Just like a rifle;)
Stu, you never mentioned how it performs when fully auto, nor did you include any information regarding its post patch changes, such as negative damage multipliers to extremities or its worsened hipfire and recoil...
Best pun ever! That pun really was the best I have no words haha defirnately no BS from this weapon
Add the full auto and you'll melt people at close range
You turned so hard on this guy :o 2:24
It was nerfed, it's recoil is heightened and its RPM is lowered, and it won't kill 2 shots to the feet and legs anymore
The MSBS is actually an ACR bullpup prototype
Hm. Deadeye is +20% on average, and MSBS needs +25% to become 1 burst kill at distance. So deadeye will help sometimes but not greatly.
I saw on your dev blog that you dream of just doing forza content. If just one week you covered some of the most iconic cars from that game, maybe call it Forza week, I think it'd be a nice refresher.
Stuart, all of your Ghosts guides feature the SMGs and assault rifles. When are you gonna get to the other classes?
IW made a good change. weapon is perfect now.
its amazing how transcript gets 90% of what he says unlike other commentators
Hey Stuart,
What is your favourite Call of Duty game till now?
Very informative, only problem I see is that it was just nerfed.
What is that perk where that red mark comes up when you hit someone?
Even though it still can technically kill in one burst it is often a two burst ever since the patch
love your videos!
Your a great weapon reviewer
Don't you just hate when they patch a gun the day before you release a video... still, great stuff as always Stu. :)
When are you going to do the attachments?
so you're telling me that infinity ward decided to go ahead and put in another type 95 in cod ghosts
Stu what do you think about humiliate the next enemy player field order?
I KNEW you were going to say something like "no bs"
The graphics are beast! What do you record with???
i think elgate game capture