About the "imagine a minecraft server spawn that looks like a nuclear bomb has gone off in it" rofl, have you ever heard of 2B2T? :D That's EXACTLY what spawn looks like lol. Maybe you and Josh should check it out sometime hehe.
Well I fully thought they were really trying to scam. After I heard her say that they probably really believe they can keep their promises I remembered "Never attribute to Malice what can easily be explained by Stupidity".
I mean there are so many people who for some reason think that making an MMO is as easy as building IKEA furniture. And universally these novice devs always collapse under their own hubris
To be fair, in the case of big promises it's more useful to attribute it to malice. We just had insight into their personalities that confirmed it was just a couple of losers making up excuses whenever they failed.
it's weird but i honestly don't think this was a scam in the traditional sense. I think Zach is one of those people who's just so in love with his own perceived greatness that he actually thought he could just crank out a game in a few months and take the world by storm. He's one of those extreme narcissists who just know they'll be a CEO one day but find the idea of working for someone else completely beneath them So yeah, i think they honestly believed everything they said would be true eventually, neither just had the talent of the self-awareness to make it happen and were completely blindsided by the difficulty level they'd set for themselves
@@petriew2018 Exactly my thinking. If they were completely intending this to be a scam they wouldn't have made such outrageous claims rather having it appear somewhat realistic in order to deceive better. This were borderline Mental Illness levels of claims.
@@marianpazdzioch6632 it shouldn't have been your business but he went and ran his mouth. maybe be respectful and let's not speculate given she's literally in the thread directly above you.
Zach forced a public proposal on her, did that with a super cheap ring, got found out and then tried to push the blame on the jewelry store employee. If that doesn't scream kid and cookie jar, I don't know what does!
I feel like you should've given it a mention that Zack was acting extremely weird to at least one of the underage girls he "hired" as a moderator for his discord. Iirc saying stuff like him being her daddy, promising her employment in the future and paying her to travel to him. It does shed a bit of a different light on the child moderator discord situation imo.
There's no real smoke and I think Callum was erring on the side of, I don't know, facts? If any of you really believe there's something to it off of that one incident, feel free to build a UA-cam career out of it. I personally appreciate Callum not going for cheap pile-ons.
Seriously, some people are shockingly oblivious to their own behavior and it cracks me up. His face literally says “I don’t believe what I’m saying to these people at all…”
Not only that, but there should be confirmation beforehand, I feel. My gf knows that when we have the money, I want to propose, and I have a pre answer. But if she didn't, and I pulled it off in the way Zach did, it would be as though I was coercing her, because she could feel bad about embarrassing me, and say yes, forcing her into an awful situation.
Sometimes we're full of wind and just need to.. let it out. Unfortunately, since he was on cam and in the room with another person, he might have felt it was rude of him to do so, thus he held it in. He's a true hero that should be celebrated.
@@tyski9000lol. AWS has over 200 cloud/web related products for basically any kind of dev. They know plenty about evaluating good tech. Wait... sarcasm exists... that was probably a joke
Surprised to see a comment from the cringe video creators who can't make any actual "review" video without being biased and then talking shit to people when y'all advertised a literal website that was selling things that would get you banned on any game. Sad to see you guys trying to get something from posting on a video from Callum.
I always felt so bad for Aislinn, she seems so lovely and not only did she have to put up with Zach's bullshit and lying in their relationship but also months later with something that had nothing to do with her. Respect to her for coming forward and sharing the truth despite how awkward it must have been to talk about something so personal and taking the risk of just looking like the bitter ex and I hope she's doing well these days.
Am I the only one who kind of doesn't trust her and think she is self serving for her own YT views? She looked into that guy's eyes and thought "I want this".
@@Lotus_Lenex Yeah, its easy for the woman to always come out looking innocent, because people love women, so they want to trust them. Not that I think she is lying so much, but she isnt innocent either. This story is real simple. Pretty girl gets hot looking at pretty boy, they have sex, the sex is good, hes funny and fun (of course, he still acts like a child, never growing up), so they think, lets date. They date for awhile, and then as a typical child, he makes a grand proposal where she would be embarassed to say no, because he always has big dreams. She is having fun and being a pretty girl, but after awhile, she gets tired of the same childishness that she fell in love with, and his hotness isnt enough anymore. She moves on to the next dick that gets her hot. Crude? Yes. Reality for girls like her? 100% I have no sympathy. Of course she was self serving. She pretty much admits that she saw all the red flags for a long time. But while it was fun, she was willing to ignore them. Relationships are often too shallow these days.
@@Gigawood yeah I suppose. It's awful and unfair. The fact she's drop dead gorgeous isn't helping :P If I'm being honest, that is how I felt when this all first went down "She's just milking this"
I interviewed to be a programmer for these guys, I met Garrison virtually. They were a YCombinator company so I thought they were legit. They told me that I interviewed well, but that they were only looking for people willing to work in the city 6 days a week and crunch hard because that's the only way to make it as a startup. I wasn't going to do that, so Garrison said it wasn't going to work out. Days later, he emailed me again asking to set up our first interview and I had to remind him he already rejected me. I really dodged a bullet lmao
Honestly, this seems rather sad. They are clearly driven people, but they're also driving blindly and seemingly hoping they'll just get a feel for the car and the road before they crash and neither of them have a drivers licence or know how to drive. Seems like a disaster in the making.
IDK about driven, there were times where weeks would go by for an update and it would be that they adjusted a slider in UE. They were about as driven as I am working on hobby projects: During the fun parts I'll work tirelessly, during the boring parts I'll barely touch it for a couple weeks.
what are u saying, the main dude is an absolute narcissist. I dont feel bad for his fake emotional sob stories failing. His smiles, chuckles, how he makes himself sound like an excited little kid, I think it's all a form of manipulation. There's something clearly off with him and after dealing with similar people, I can't unsee it.
@@FrontlineSuicide It most definitely isn't real the dudes scammed people the same way before. We see clips of it in this video, but theres more. Even if there weren't, do none of you get this overwelming feeling of distrust looking at him?
It's been a full year? Damn. I imagined barely anyone is playing Dreamworld at this point... But I don't think they'll acknowledge that it's dead any time soon, right? They must still have responsibilities to their investors that they must at least pretend to try fulfilling.
@@tzxazrael nothing. It seems DreamWorld was the biggest scam of the creators lives, and it fizzled out on arrival for many reason and now they are just parading around the dead body of their scam like a twisted marionette lmfao
@@viren_jalkun "weekend at bernies? never heard of it, no idea what you're talking about. look at that friend who is definitely totally still alive, isn't that funny?"
Well done Sir for informing them directly of bugs with potentially harmful implications before diving in with a video on it, allowing them to sort it out before you went public. It's that sort of integrity that shows you are about actions not just words when it comes to commentary on topics like this. Good man.
That poor girl! It's such a douche move to do that public proposal thing. Good for her for getting away from him. Garrison and Zach give that "poor little rich boy" vibe. I doubt they have ever really worked for anything in their lives. I doubt they'll try to get better at game development...because that would be work.
Thats exactly what i got. The character type is so clear. I am not sure about Zach if he was a waiter (she didnt deny much) at least in what he showed. But we also dont know much about him, so this is my take. Gary? The chubbier guy with the rich uncle is the kid with the money. Zach is his friend who never grew up and always has big dreams. (hence his ridiculous proposal where she couldnt say no) Zach needs money, he wants to do something awesome that so many boys want to do, and his rich friend agrees. They get together to make the best game ever. Honestly Gary looks like he doesnt have a clue about much. Zach is the pretty boy that thinks hes real special because he always has girls chasing him and makes friends easy, so he can do no wrong. And he will do anything to make everybody love him (including lie) He has looks, charm, and no morals. On the way to a sociopath, but really I think just a spoiled child.
@@Ergeniz hot boy may be better but to me he looks more like a weak feminine boy rather than a masculine man, but women love the pretty boys these days. Look at the American woman's love for Korean boy bands and our own boy bands of the 90s I dont get it either but there it is
"Players will no longer be able to fly while sitting in a chair." To me, this sounded like a Dwarf Fortress patch. "Also, we stopped elves from selling their fingernails for profit."
And here I sit, 15 years of modding and coding expirience under my belt, worrying if I should even start developing my own game... Its kind of inspiring really, how someone can be so blind to doubt, that they try to reinvent the wheel, without understanding why it has to be round to begin with.
Callum, You, JoshStrifeHayes and Upper Echelon Gaming are the single best (I call it dev analysis or Deep Gaming) on the platform. Please, please keep this up, you deserve all the Internet fame and internet money you can earn. You never phone it in, you have a genuine style and attitude we all love. Thanks bro!! I have a bit of respect!~
@@nustde00 Why’s that? I’ve only ever watched like two or three vids by the guy and I’m usually pretty good at profiling but nothing stood out to me. What’s up with Kira?
I want to believe it was the same taxi the hit him twice, just out there trying to hunt Zack down, take him out in an attempt to avoid Dreamworld from happening, having had visions of the future. It makes the story much more fun. Lol
Truck-kun's younger sibling is out to isekai him. I'd stay inside too. Imagine if he'd wake up inside Dreamworld and only be able to escape once it finished... Wait a minute, we sure that's not the real story?
For anybody wondering, enum is short for enumerated. They represent values that you enumerate at compile time. This trades some flexibility for a potentially extreme performance boost. Due to the flexibility trade off, you cannot use enums for general networking stuff because you cannot enumerate all networking stuff at compile time.
Specifically "enumerate at compile time" means replace with a number at compile time not list one-by-one at compile time (since enumerate has both definitions and this sentance initially confused me). And although you can't network THROUGH enums you can send enums over the network as part of a network message. You can't usually use enums on their own as the entirety of a networked message (unless you have a very specific game like tic tac toe). In fact it's incredibly common for enums to be used in the header of network messages as a discriminator for different message types. However usually you require other values for the rest of the contents (floats for positions, strings for names, etc) for a significant portion of the networking message's contents.
@@slBrelaz I was wondering if I should put in the network packet header clarification, but I left it out because I was worried it would confuse people. Clearly, I took the wrong route…
@@slBrelaz are enums like serialized objects in Java for Android apps (to send them from one activity to the other) What I don't understand why is this needed since any data are bits and you can just transfer the bits like they are any other data type. Why does it matter if they are enums or serializable objects?
@@BankruptGreek They're like constant variables, just grouped into a list based on relevance to each other and usually incrementing by 1 for each entry on the list. To elaborate on my earlier example about message types: enum MessageTypes { PlayerConnected, // 0 (when the first value is not assigned it defaults to 0) PlayerDisconnected, // 1 EntityMoved, // 2 CraftItem, // 3 etc... // each entry increments by 1 unless assigned to a specific value. } By default PlayerConnected would have a value of 0, PlayerDisconnected would have a value of 1 and so-on, each value in the enum that does not have a specific value set (using =) increments the value of the previous item by 1. You'd use these entries just like normal const variables, e.g. as so: if (Message.Header.Type === MessageTypes.PlayerConnected) { ///code } Enums are mostly used as an easy way to group related magic numbers or constant values together so that they can be used for comparisons without having to do (relatively slow) string comparisons while still being very readable. They're also used in optimised code because (as was said previously) they are replaced by their values by the compiler, so there's no variable lookup needed at runtime (this is not important to most programmers). They're completely unneeded (just like switch statements) as you can achieve the exact same functionality using preprocessor directives. They just exist to make a programmer's life easier and code neater.
This is what happens when tech bros think they can do anything, including developing an entire game (which of course, because they're tech bros, has to be revolutionary and do stuff noone has ever done before). For a moment I thought there was going to be a "redemption arc" for them, but it's not in the cards without humility. I'm just surprised they haven't run out of money yet.
Hmm, I got hit by two cabs twice with earbuds in... so the obvious solution is create a wearable speaker and *definitely not* just turning the volume down.
In 2022, I've realized that games where you can "do everything" no longer appeal to me anymore. What I want are games with few but strong gameplay loops.
Callum I really appreciate how open and honest you are with all this stuff. World needs more people that can say someone is bsing ( such as the years of experience or spending 400 hours to fix doors) then proves it by fixing the doors in a couple minutes by yourself. I look forward to every video you put out.
At least our NightmareWorld team was born from this, so... something good came from it! ^.^ (I'm on the Lore Team for NightmareWorld, for those that aren't aware). ((HUGS)) :3 x
Wait hold up are we gonna ignore that he said he started talking to dude's ex often and not even about Dreamworld? Callum stealing his girl is gonna be the next kickstarter sob story
Wild to think Dreamworld is was the genesis of this channel... also wild to think I've been here for the whole ride...Looking forward to the next video Callum
I had no idea your channel STARTED with dreamworld. I just remember seeing that first video and watching most stuff since. Interesting that youtube blew up your first video. The Algorithm Lord works in mysterious ways.
It is absolutely hilarious that 2 of the 6 moderators had a change of heart, so to speak, and began seeing the issue differently. This entire video/story is almost worthy of a having a movie made based on it. Unbelievable! 👍🏻😊😱💖🤣🙄🤔😂 PS - I'm sure there's probably so much more that you could say about this whole Dreamworld fiasco and I'd love to see another video on this. Great job.
21:55 Something that you probably didn't know or missed is that in order to get the access key you have to get another person to invest in the project to. I forgot who mentioned this though but they also tried asking the people in discord who had actually played the game.
@@georgeblair3894 CoE is a close second but with Dreamworld they really want us to believe they're making one game with every genre while all they're doing is dropping in unreal assets
I really don't understand how you're not a multi million subscriber channel. Amazing content, well researched and always give me information i haven't seen on the other game/dev channels!
I was not aware that the Dreamworld arc literary started your channel, first discovered it on Kira's channel during his initial coverage, what a wild ride it was
Them believing that a 3D game engine will only load exactly what you, the human can literally see on screen, implementing a fucking fog sphere with the intention to hide pop in that isn't happening because everything is just loaded but is now hidden by a layer of white which will actually decrease performance further is fucking hilarious.
Dreamworld and Chronicles of Elyria are the reason I started following you and Kira (and possibly also Josh strife Hays though I may have discovered him before that). Somehow you got onto my radar (possibly when upper echelon covered it and mentioned your research?) either way, glad I discovered your channel and happy to watch your content. I hope your unexpected UA-cam career is lucrative for you :)
Hey Callum, have you ever considered making any videos about game development basics or general programming concept tutorials? You are really good at breaking down and explaining programming/technical concepts in an engaging way.
That mount spazzing out on crack thing was one of the FUNNIEST of your videos ! IMO you should end every one of your videos with 1 full minute of the crackhead mount shenagians, nobody would ever leave a video early again !
Wow I didn’t realize your channel started with dreamworld! I’ve been watching your channel pretty much since it started. Your channel has come a long way in just a year. Great video
I was noticing that in every update they didnt figure out collision detection. That just seems to be an impossibility for them. I wonder if they have figured out such a basic task yet?
Dreamworld is now one of my favorite games ever, because it brought us Callum and his glorious takedowns of shoddy games, clueless or outright malevolent devs, and great explanations of how NOT to make a game.
Never hear about it before Josh mention it, and through your video, I get what shit show it his. You speak very well about your expertise domain. I 'm glad I found your channel. If I wasn't broke, you LL be the first content creator I LL enjoy to finance, just to see what you can do. Good luck in the futur and enjoy your growing notoriety.
@37:20 - A MAC address is only unique on the local network. Displaying a user's MAC address to others is only a security issue if an attacker is on the same local network. Using it to automatically create a username for login IS a security risk as the same MAC address(es) can exist on different networks without any technical problems.
Wow Core looks like such a cool and convenient invention, they should make a miniature version of that next, perhaps 2 small wireless devices that fit right into your ears to play music.
I have to say, the amount of class you've managed to keep during this whole thing is damn impressive. Out of everyone on UA-cam, you are by far the person I respect the most - just on that alone. On top of that, I really have appreciated the way you break everything down for those of us that aren't game devs and don't have prior knowledge about these things, while still remaining interesting and informative. Just top notch, honestly. I'm really happy you're getting the credit and attention you deserve.
Loved the wrap-up of Dreamworld. I didn't realise I'd started following this channel so early - I wasn't there at the start but I must have started watching a few videos in. Callum, if you're reading - Is the maker's workshop (or whatever you call it) still happening? That's a super-interesting project and one that would deserve a series of videos.
I immediately thought of the sims cursed patch notes when you mentioned "players will no longer be able to fly when sitting in a chair" xD Man, now I gotta watch that video again lol..
Love ya lots Callum. Keep making such great content, you deserve the best man. It feels like you've been on UA-cam way longer than a year, your videos are as entertaining and informative as some of the best UA-camrs. Thanks for doing what you do.
I was only thinking of this car crash a couple of days ago (while I was ill, funnily enough - make of that what you will). The fact it lasted this long was more than I expected. Though of course, as they bit off FAR more than they could chew, I guess if it were less public, they'd have dropped it far sooner.
I actually never thought they were intentionally trying to scam. They really do seem like two guys who are way overconfident in their skills and thought they could pull this off.
Right? Also with Zach's other failed crowdfunded projects, you just know he did it on purpose. Don't sympathize with this guy - he ran off with literal a shit ton of cash
Me: "It couldn't be that cringe. I've seen E2 and all kinds of crypto nonsense." Me after 30 seconds of a guy dead-panning his relationship troubles: "I always underestimate these people"
He gets hit by a taxi while wearing earbuds, so the dude invents the kind of useless gadget found in 3AM infomercials (or late-90s Sharper Image), puts together a Kickstarter campaign to get it funded and even produces a trailer for it. Instead of, say, wearing only one earbud.
29:45 The inflatable man in the background banging his head against the building is funnily resonating with what Skiazos has to say in that particular segment.
How did I miss the thrilling conclusion to this disaster? How did I miss "Enums?" Oh boy... Enums will now be my response to anything I don't understand
As I really enjoy all of your content, I guess in a way I really am grateful for Dreamworld for giving their project a go. What a strange world that I'm thankful to these devs!
Tactical comment for the algotythm. Nice video, Callum. I'm always laughing when you tell Josh what they messed up in Dream World again in your Tangent Tavern episodes. 😂😂
If Dreamworld somehow made it out alive, it will have the same energy of your typical old Minecraft anarchy servers made by 10 year olds. The world is going to be full of destruction, upside down T's, the funny moustache man symbol, and oh my god that supporter names engraved on the walls, That's very minecrafty, i remember playing Minecraft PE server that has a lot of those.
Correction to 25:50. Peer to peer doesn't necessarily mean that every peer trusts every other peer. Factorio multiplayer was initially peer to peer, and every client validated the same rules that a sever would. If a client sent an invalid state transition, this would cause a "desync" as it was rejected. That Dreamworld did not do the same isn't due to peer to peer.
This was a great recap! I watched all the content when it was still fresh but honestly hadnt heard anything for a while. thanks for filling me in. your content is really solid.
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About the "imagine a minecraft server spawn that looks like a nuclear bomb has gone off in it" rofl, have you ever heard of 2B2T? :D That's EXACTLY what spawn looks like lol. Maybe you and Josh should check it out sometime hehe.
What Dreamworld is now dead? What happened. I thought they were making improvements.
when you did your learn it add I thought you were about to shoutout his ex gf lmfao
That kid with the access key came in clutch tho.
Umm what's that pink creature on your chair an ant and please where can I get one !!
Earth 2 accused Callum of being on a shadow council, but here he was actually running a shadow daycare of Dreamworld espionage.
First rule of shadow council is dont talk about shadow council. The second rule about shadow council is......
I forget.
He's just doing his part to aid the Doctor in upholding the Shadow proclamations, that's all.
@@moshunit96 The second rule ov Shadow Council:
Forget about Shadow Council.
@@moshunit96 on your first day you fight
@@kredonystus7768 2nd rule is brush your teeth after drinking your chocolate milk before beddiebyes
Imagine creating a scam so bad, you unintentionally launch a creator's UA-cam career. Glad to have you Callum!
Launched the career of his critics but couldn't launch his own, damn thats rough
There's someone who built his entire youtube career based on bug and glitch on a certain videogame.
Anything is possible
It's like when a supervillain accidentally creates the very hero that would one day destroy them.
i dont get it, this guy been posting vids for over a year
@@ReigoVassal Does it channel start with a V and features a certain Big Armor guy and a ghost prince?
Well I fully thought they were really trying to scam. After I heard her say that they probably really believe they can keep their promises I remembered "Never attribute to Malice what can easily be explained by Stupidity".
Good ol' Hanlon's Razor
I mean there are so many people who for some reason think that making an MMO is as easy as building IKEA furniture. And universally these novice devs always collapse under their own hubris
To be fair, in the case of big promises it's more useful to attribute it to malice. We just had insight into their personalities that confirmed it was just a couple of losers making up excuses whenever they failed.
it's weird but i honestly don't think this was a scam in the traditional sense.
I think Zach is one of those people who's just so in love with his own perceived greatness that he actually thought he could just crank out a game in a few months and take the world by storm. He's one of those extreme narcissists who just know they'll be a CEO one day but find the idea of working for someone else completely beneath them
So yeah, i think they honestly believed everything they said would be true eventually, neither just had the talent of the self-awareness to make it happen and were completely blindsided by the difficulty level they'd set for themselves
@@petriew2018 Exactly my thinking. If they were completely intending this to be a scam they wouldn't have made such outrageous claims rather having it appear somewhat realistic in order to deceive better. This were borderline Mental Illness levels of claims.
The fact that his ex referred to them as “those boys” is the funniest part of this whole thing. Like he is just a little boy to her. 😂
You sir are the first person in the entire internet to catch that 🫠
And yet she was engaged to one of those boys. She let him get pretty far before breaking up i'd say.
@@marianpazdzioch6632 it shouldn't have been your business but he went and ran his mouth. maybe be respectful and let's not speculate given she's literally in the thread directly above you.
Zach forced a public proposal on her, did that with a super cheap ring, got found out and then tried to push the blame on the jewelry store employee.
If that doesn't scream kid and cookie jar, I don't know what does!
@@SmilinAislinn if you aint first you’re last.
I feel like you should've given it a mention that Zack was acting extremely weird to at least one of the underage girls he "hired" as a moderator for his discord.
Iirc saying stuff like him being her daddy, promising her employment in the future and paying her to travel to him.
It does shed a bit of a different light on the child moderator discord situation imo.
.....wait, this is extremely something that needs to be mentioned. that is not a one-off.
There's no real smoke and I think Callum was erring on the side of, I don't know, facts? If any of you really believe there's something to it off of that one incident, feel free to build a UA-cam career out of it. I personally appreciate Callum not going for cheap pile-ons.
The fake ring story is one of my favorites in the internet. And the girl looks like a real sweetie. Zach's loss.
Seriously, some people are shockingly oblivious to their own behavior and it cracks me up.
His face literally says “I don’t believe what I’m saying to these people at all…”
What makes it even worse is that she didn't even want an expensive ring, she just didn't want that muppet to LIE to her....
Zach could have been dating Trish Paytas at her worst, and it still would have been a loss for him.
Not only that, but there should be confirmation beforehand, I feel.
My gf knows that when we have the money, I want to propose, and I have a pre answer.
But if she didn't, and I pulled it off in the way Zach did, it would be as though I was coercing her, because she could feel bad about embarrassing me, and say yes, forcing her into an awful situation.
Nah, she won. Zach would be an ab*sive shitehead and she deserves MUCH better
It's confirmed, Dreamworld brought us one good thing: the Callum Upton UA-cam channel.
Amen
From the deepest pits of hell spawned the hero of the age.
Sometimes we're full of wind and just need to.. let it out. Unfortunately, since he was on cam and in the room with another person, he might have felt it was rude of him to do so, thus he held it in. He's a true hero that should be celebrated.
LMAO!
Anyone else think that Activision or Microsoft picking this up and remaking it? lol
@@tyski9000lol. AWS has over 200 cloud/web related products for basically any kind of dev. They know plenty about evaluating good tech. Wait... sarcasm exists... that was probably a joke
Surprised to see a comment from the cringe video creators who can't make any actual "review" video without being biased and then talking shit to people when y'all advertised a literal website that was selling things that would get you banned on any game. Sad to see you guys trying to get something from posting on a video from Callum.
@@Mortal209 anyone using the word cringe out of nowhere dont deserve any shred of attention,all those words to say literally nothing,grow the fuck up
moderators preying on children isnt illegal if the moderator is also a child.
thats 4d chess right there.
I always felt so bad for Aislinn, she seems so lovely and not only did she have to put up with Zach's bullshit and lying in their relationship but also months later with something that had nothing to do with her. Respect to her for coming forward and sharing the truth despite how awkward it must have been to talk about something so personal and taking the risk of just looking like the bitter ex and I hope she's doing well these days.
Am I the only one who kind of doesn't trust her and think she is self serving for her own YT views?
She looked into that guy's eyes and thought "I want this".
@@Lotus_Lenex Yeah, its easy for the woman to always come out looking innocent, because people love women, so they want to trust them. Not that I think she is lying so much, but she isnt innocent either.
This story is real simple. Pretty girl gets hot looking at pretty boy, they have sex, the sex is good, hes funny and fun (of course, he still acts like a child, never growing up), so they think, lets date. They date for awhile, and then as a typical child, he makes a grand proposal where she would be embarassed to say no, because he always has big dreams.
She is having fun and being a pretty girl, but after awhile, she gets tired of the same childishness that she fell in love with, and his hotness isnt enough anymore. She moves on to the next dick that gets her hot.
Crude? Yes. Reality for girls like her? 100%
I have no sympathy. Of course she was self serving. She pretty much admits that she saw all the red flags for a long time. But while it was fun, she was willing to ignore them.
Relationships are often too shallow these days.
@@Lotus_Lenex ??? Considering she’s a fashion influencer in her own right (and doesn’t need anything from him), that seems kinda unfair.
@@Gigawood yeah I suppose. It's awful and unfair.
The fact she's drop dead gorgeous isn't helping :P
If I'm being honest, that is how I felt when this all first went down
"She's just milking this"
Thank you Danny! Glad to say I’m doing very well, surprised to open UA-cam and see my face on the thumbnail 😂 but doin great 😊
I interviewed to be a programmer for these guys, I met Garrison virtually. They were a YCombinator company so I thought they were legit. They told me that I interviewed well, but that they were only looking for people willing to work in the city 6 days a week and crunch hard because that's the only way to make it as a startup. I wasn't going to do that, so Garrison said it wasn't going to work out. Days later, he emailed me again asking to set up our first interview and I had to remind him he already rejected me. I really dodged a bullet lmao
Dreamworld is the reason why I'm now following you, Kira and JSH, so in my books it's a win.
Same.
Honestly, this seems rather sad. They are clearly driven people, but they're also driving blindly and seemingly hoping they'll just get a feel for the car and the road before they crash and neither of them have a drivers licence or know how to drive. Seems like a disaster in the making.
IDK about driven, there were times where weeks would go by for an update and it would be that they adjusted a slider in UE. They were about as driven as I am working on hobby projects: During the fun parts I'll work tirelessly, during the boring parts I'll barely touch it for a couple weeks.
what are u saying, the main dude is an absolute narcissist. I dont feel bad for his fake emotional sob stories failing. His smiles, chuckles, how he makes himself sound like an excited little kid, I think it's all a form of manipulation. There's something clearly off with him and after dealing with similar people, I can't unsee it.
yeah, finding positive things like that despite everything is a sign that their main dude is a really good conman
I dunno man, whether its intentional or not, they are still scamming people so I wouldnt start crying yet
@@FrontlineSuicide It most definitely isn't real the dudes scammed people the same way before. We see clips of it in this video, but theres more. Even if there weren't, do none of you get this overwelming feeling of distrust looking at him?
It's been a full year? Damn.
I imagined barely anyone is playing Dreamworld at this point... But I don't think they'll acknowledge that it's dead any time soon, right? They must still have responsibilities to their investors that they must at least pretend to try fulfilling.
i mean... it's not like anyone was really able to PLAY it in the first place.. lol
We are talking player counts of 5-30 my guy, generally all players are friends or the creators.
@@notatrollll yea but... even if they were all "best buds"... what is/was there to play anyway?
@@tzxazrael nothing. It seems DreamWorld was the biggest scam of the creators lives, and it fizzled out on arrival for many reason and now they are just parading around the dead body of their scam like a twisted marionette lmfao
@@viren_jalkun "weekend at bernies? never heard of it, no idea what you're talking about. look at that friend who is definitely totally still alive, isn't that funny?"
Well done Sir for informing them directly of bugs with potentially harmful implications before diving in with a video on it, allowing them to sort it out before you went public. It's that sort of integrity that shows you are about actions not just words when it comes to commentary on topics like this. Good man.
Nah, i love having a foto of my home as an nametag in game ya nice nice
Or dox myself and get rushed by swat team
That poor girl! It's such a douche move to do that public proposal thing. Good for her for getting away from him. Garrison and Zach give that "poor little rich boy" vibe. I doubt they have ever really worked for anything in their lives. I doubt they'll try to get better at game development...because that would be work.
Thats exactly what i got. The character type is so clear. I am not sure about Zach if he was a waiter (she didnt deny much) at least in what he showed. But we also dont know much about him, so this is my take.
Gary? The chubbier guy with the rich uncle is the kid with the money. Zach is his friend who never grew up and always has big dreams. (hence his ridiculous proposal where she couldnt say no)
Zach needs money, he wants to do something awesome that so many boys want to do, and his rich friend agrees. They get together to make the best game ever.
Honestly Gary looks like he doesnt have a clue about much. Zach is the pretty boy that thinks hes real special because he always has girls chasing him and makes friends easy, so he can do no wrong. And he will do anything to make everybody love him (including lie)
He has looks, charm, and no morals. On the way to a sociopath, but really I think just a spoiled child.
"poor little rich boy" pretty much sums it up
@@waltermh111 ....He's a pretty boy?
@@waltermh111 I think its re tarded to call a public proposal a "douche move". For a lot of people it's a very special moment.
@@Ergeniz hot boy may be better but to me he looks more like a weak feminine boy rather than a masculine man, but women love the pretty boys these days. Look at the American woman's love for Korean boy bands and our own boy bands of the 90s
I dont get it either but there it is
"Players will no longer be able to fly while sitting in a chair."
To me, this sounded like a Dwarf Fortress patch. "Also, we stopped elves from selling their fingernails for profit."
And here I sit, 15 years of modding and coding expirience under my belt, worrying if I should even start developing my own game...
Its kind of inspiring really, how someone can be so blind to doubt, that they try to reinvent the wheel, without understanding why it has to be round to begin with.
Callum, You, JoshStrifeHayes and Upper Echelon Gaming are the single best (I call it dev analysis or Deep Gaming) on the platform. Please, please keep this up, you deserve all the Internet fame and internet money you can earn. You never phone it in, you have a genuine style and attitude we all love. Thanks bro!! I have a bit of respect!~
What about KiraTV? I haven't watched him in awhile tbh
@@FlamespeedyAMV kiratv as a person is the physical embodiment of a person who I would never, ever be friends with.
@@nustde00 Why’s that? I’ve only ever watched like two or three vids by the guy and I’m usually pretty good at profiling but nothing stood out to me. What’s up with Kira?
I'd add Kiratv to this regardless of your thoughts to him.
My fiance...left me. Sigh.
My best friend, Gary...left me. Sigh.
My parents...left me. Sigh.
I got hit by 2 taxi cabs... sigh.
I got hit twice by the same taxi cab... sigh.
End with..."Hi, I'm Garrison!"
The taxi cabs...left me. Sigh
@@dodojesus4529 In the end, after it was all gone did he realize.. The Taxi Cabs were his true friends, all along.. Sigh.
"I was born at an extremely young age"
I've been following you since the original Dreamworld video. I look forward to all of your videos and those you share with Josh. Keep it up!
I want to believe it was the same taxi the hit him twice, just out there trying to hunt Zack down, take him out in an attempt to avoid Dreamworld from happening, having had visions of the future. It makes the story much more fun. Lol
Truck-kun's younger sibling is out to isekai him. I'd stay inside too. Imagine if he'd wake up inside Dreamworld and only be able to escape once it finished... Wait a minute, we sure that's not the real story?
It hit him once, then reversed back over him in an attempt to finish the job.
Truth is whatever you want it to be sometimes
Put it this way, the taxi drive was called M. McFly
I love the idea of it being an unmanned taxi.
For anybody wondering, enum is short for enumerated. They represent values that you enumerate at compile time. This trades some flexibility for a potentially extreme performance boost. Due to the flexibility trade off, you cannot use enums for general networking stuff because you cannot enumerate all networking stuff at compile time.
Specifically "enumerate at compile time" means replace with a number at compile time not list one-by-one at compile time (since enumerate has both definitions and this sentance initially confused me).
And although you can't network THROUGH enums you can send enums over the network as part of a network message.
You can't usually use enums on their own as the entirety of a networked message (unless you have a very specific game like tic tac toe). In fact it's incredibly common for enums to be used in the header of network messages as a discriminator for different message types. However usually you require other values for the rest of the contents (floats for positions, strings for names, etc) for a significant portion of the networking message's contents.
@@slBrelaz I was wondering if I should put in the network packet header clarification, but I left it out because I was worried it would confuse people. Clearly, I took the wrong route…
@@Toberumono Nah I just personally prefer writing too much information and responding to comments before I've watched the video
@@slBrelaz are enums like serialized objects in Java for Android apps (to send them from one activity to the other)
What I don't understand why is this needed since any data are bits and you can just transfer the bits like they are any other data type. Why does it matter if they are enums or serializable objects?
@@BankruptGreek They're like constant variables, just grouped into a list based on relevance to each other and usually incrementing by 1 for each entry on the list. To elaborate on my earlier example about message types:
enum MessageTypes {
PlayerConnected, // 0 (when the first value is not assigned it defaults to 0)
PlayerDisconnected, // 1
EntityMoved, // 2
CraftItem, // 3
etc... // each entry increments by 1 unless assigned to a specific value.
}
By default PlayerConnected would have a value of 0, PlayerDisconnected would have a value of 1 and so-on, each value in the enum that does not have a specific value set (using =) increments the value of the previous item by 1.
You'd use these entries just like normal const variables, e.g. as so:
if (Message.Header.Type === MessageTypes.PlayerConnected) { ///code }
Enums are mostly used as an easy way to group related magic numbers or constant values together so that they can be used for comparisons without having to do (relatively slow) string comparisons while still being very readable. They're also used in optimised code because (as was said previously) they are replaced by their values by the compiler, so there's no variable lookup needed at runtime (this is not important to most programmers).
They're completely unneeded (just like switch statements) as you can achieve the exact same functionality using preprocessor directives. They just exist to make a programmer's life easier and code neater.
this man thought he was going to replace the whole industry with one game. That should have been red flag enough.
This is what happens when tech bros think they can do anything, including developing an entire game (which of course, because they're tech bros, has to be revolutionary and do stuff noone has ever done before). For a moment I thought there was going to be a "redemption arc" for them, but it's not in the cards without humility.
I'm just surprised they haven't run out of money yet.
"My new contacts at Y-Combinator" - Callum - 65k UA-camr
Didn't expect that, lol
Overall very good video, nice job Callum!
Gotta say Cal, your production value has gone through the roof since last i watched one of your videos. Good on you for keeping it real, man.
Hmm, I got hit by two cabs twice with earbuds in... so the obvious solution is create a wearable speaker and *definitely not* just turning the volume down.
In 2022, I've realized that games where you can "do everything" no longer appeal to me anymore. What I want are games with few but strong gameplay loops.
Literally every fucking dumb "metaverse" currently in the making.
I've been going back and forth between single player RPGs and simpler games from smaller studios with names like Train Station Flipper.
Callum I really appreciate how open and honest you are with all this stuff. World needs more people that can say someone is bsing ( such as the years of experience or spending 400 hours to fix doors) then proves it by fixing the doors in a couple minutes by yourself. I look forward to every video you put out.
Thanks for the video. I fell down the Dreamworld rabbit hole early this year and I've been itching for some more contemporary coverage.
At least our NightmareWorld team was born from this, so... something good came from it! ^.^ (I'm on the Lore Team for NightmareWorld, for those that aren't aware). ((HUGS)) :3 x
*HR takes notes*
I would love to play this shit game if it wasn't wasn't security risk
@@orsonzedd ..? I'm confused. Our game is NightmareWorld and the security issue /scam game (with high-security risks) was...DreamWorld o.o
Very excited about Nightmare World. Love the Elizabethan/Victorian concept.
Been loving the updates, y'all seem to be doing a great job with that :)
Wait hold up are we gonna ignore that he said he started talking to dude's ex often and not even about Dreamworld? Callum stealing his girl is gonna be the next kickstarter sob story
Lmao I was already happily dating someone else at the time but let’s be real, this will be the plot line for the eventual day time drama adaptation 🤣
Wild to think Dreamworld is was the genesis of this channel...
also wild to think I've been here for the whole ride...Looking forward to the next video Callum
I had no idea your channel STARTED with dreamworld. I just remember seeing that first video and watching most stuff since. Interesting that youtube blew up your first video. The Algorithm Lord works in mysterious ways.
Man this really did die with a wimper then.
“They were essentially playing wack-a-mole with a hydra” is such a perfect analogy and I love it
I still remember that original Dreamworld video coming up in my recommendations. It's mindblowing that your channel has grown so much since then
It is absolutely hilarious that 2 of the 6 moderators had a change of heart, so to speak, and began seeing the issue differently. This entire video/story is almost worthy of a having a movie made based on it. Unbelievable! 👍🏻😊😱💖🤣🙄🤔😂
PS - I'm sure there's probably so much more that you could say about this whole Dreamworld fiasco and I'd love to see another video on this. Great job.
21:55 Something that you probably didn't know or missed is that in order to get the access key you have to get another person to invest in the project to. I forgot who mentioned this though but they also tried asking the people in discord who had actually played the game.
Callum my man, I'm so glad you decided to keep making videos, I've been enjoying the ride since the first one 👍
Dreamworld has been my favorite ongoing trainwreck
Wait , what about CoE?
@@georgeblair3894
CoE is a close second but with Dreamworld they really want us to believe they're making one game with every genre while all they're doing is dropping in unreal assets
I really don't understand how you're not a multi million subscriber channel.
Amazing content, well researched and always give me information i haven't seen on the other game/dev channels!
I was not aware that the Dreamworld arc literary started your channel, first discovered it on Kira's channel during his initial coverage, what a wild ride it was
I do hope your Dreamworld chronicles will stand the test of time, you've been caught up to your ears and you've delivered. Great work!!
Them believing that a 3D game engine will only load exactly what you, the human can literally see on screen, implementing a fucking fog sphere with the intention to hide pop in that isn't happening because everything is just loaded but is now hidden by a layer of white which will actually decrease performance further is fucking hilarious.
Dreamworld and Chronicles of Elyria are the reason I started following you and Kira (and possibly also Josh strife Hays though I may have discovered him before that).
Somehow you got onto my radar (possibly when upper echelon covered it and mentioned your research?) either way, glad I discovered your channel and happy to watch your content. I hope your unexpected UA-cam career is lucrative for you :)
Callum’s destiny is to make a working dreamworld
The Death Of Dreamworld yet the fun we had watching this disaster will never die
I cant wait to see the Josh reacting to Asmongold reacting to this video.
god damn i'd react to that...
@@CallumUpton and Josh would have the livestream on in the background to check on reacting to you.
Seriously though. That night melted my brain
@@CallumUpton and viewers would react to that
I'm just happy to be on the main monitor
I never really was interested in Dreamworld, but I sure am glad I was introduced to you and that you’ve stuck around!! Really love your content, man
OMG Callum this is EPIC! Thank you for making this.
Hey Callum, have you ever considered making any videos about game development basics or general programming concept tutorials? You are really good at breaking down and explaining programming/technical concepts in an engaging way.
dude seriously i really hope you get better from your crash ...my heart goes out to you and yours
I never wanted this to end!
What a saga, I'm glad I've watched it from your, Josh and Kira's side. Can't wait to try out Nightmare World ;)
"sit tight for that gorgeous shit show."
this statement could have just encapsulated Dreamworld as a whole tbh
Gosh Callum, I forgot that the Dreamworld drama birthed your channel. Its been a while
That mount spazzing out on crack thing was one of the FUNNIEST of your videos ! IMO you should end every one of your videos with 1 full minute of the crackhead mount shenagians, nobody would ever leave a video early again !
You inspired me to go get my college done for game design
Imagine buying that absolute smoke show a fake ring. LOL.
Love your content, man. Top quality. Can't wait for more!
I remember Callum's first few videos on this that made his channel what it is today.
Congrats, Sir! So well deserved.
Wow I didn’t realize your channel started with dreamworld! I’ve been watching your channel pretty much since it started. Your channel has come a long way in just a year. Great video
I love the mount section. Pretty sure they didn't do the bare essentials when gluing two meshes together and disable collision between them lol.
I was noticing that in every update they didnt figure out collision detection. That just seems to be an impossibility for them. I wonder if they have figured out such a basic task yet?
Absolute banger of a video, sir!
Dreamworld is now one of my favorite games ever, because it brought us Callum and his glorious takedowns of shoddy games, clueless or outright malevolent devs, and great explanations of how NOT to make a game.
Never hear about it before Josh mention it, and through your video, I get what shit show it his.
You speak very well about your expertise domain. I 'm glad I found your channel. If I wasn't broke, you LL be the first content creator I LL enjoy to finance, just to see what you can do.
Good luck in the futur and enjoy your growing notoriety.
I was there since the very beginning and man, was it a fun ride to watch.
This recap video was great.
@37:20 - A MAC address is only unique on the local network. Displaying a user's MAC address to others is only a security issue if an attacker is on the same local network.
Using it to automatically create a username for login IS a security risk as the same MAC address(es) can exist on different networks without any technical problems.
thanks for the laughs, as a game dev myself i was laughing the whole time especially at the netcode being done through enums
im barely 2 minutes in and your cheekbones / jawline have completely mesmerised me
Wow Core looks like such a cool and convenient invention, they should make a miniature version of that next, perhaps 2 small wireless devices that fit right into your ears to play music.
I have to say, the amount of class you've managed to keep during this whole thing is damn impressive. Out of everyone on UA-cam, you are by far the person I respect the most - just on that alone. On top of that, I really have appreciated the way you break everything down for those of us that aren't game devs and don't have prior knowledge about these things, while still remaining interesting and informative. Just top notch, honestly. I'm really happy you're getting the credit and attention you deserve.
What a rollercoaster. Well done Cal.
I have to thank the Dreamworld Devs. Their escapades introduced me to Callum and by extension one of my favorite streamers/UA-camrs : Josh Dry Face.
Loved the wrap-up of Dreamworld. I didn't realise I'd started following this channel so early - I wasn't there at the start but I must have started watching a few videos in.
Callum, if you're reading - Is the maker's workshop (or whatever you call it) still happening? That's a super-interesting project and one that would deserve a series of videos.
I immediately thought of the sims cursed patch notes when you mentioned "players will no longer be able to fly when sitting in a chair" xD
Man, now I gotta watch that video again lol..
To this day I am still mindblown that Zack got to date a girl that looks like that, a model at that!
Been watching since the start, it has brought so many laughs and I am so glad you decided to stay. I absolutely love your content.
I keep meaning to ask, Callum: what's the story with the cute little pink dude who clings to your chair?
one of my twitch viewers got me it to stop me buying a real orchid mantis, it was a wise choice lmao!
@@CallumUpton Makes sense. Maybe I'll buy you one of those ebola plushies to keep you safe from that. XD
Love ya lots Callum. Keep making such great content, you deserve the best man.
It feels like you've been on UA-cam way longer than a year, your videos are as entertaining and informative as some of the best UA-camrs. Thanks for doing what you do.
I was only thinking of this car crash a couple of days ago (while I was ill, funnily enough - make of that what you will). The fact it lasted this long was more than I expected. Though of course, as they bit off FAR more than they could chew, I guess if it were less public, they'd have dropped it far sooner.
you were weaker while ill, that's why you started thinking of this mental virus lol
@@sionbarzad5371 LOl, now you may have hit the nail on the head then.
I actually never thought they were intentionally trying to scam. They really do seem like two guys who are way overconfident in their skills and thought they could pull this off.
Dunning-Kruger in full effect.
Oh, i felt they were. Right after they got the money for the project, they went on vacation!! Shady from the very beginning.
Right? Also with Zach's other failed crowdfunded projects, you just know he did it on purpose. Don't sympathize with this guy - he ran off with literal a shit ton of cash
The best thing that came out of this whole thing was you, Callum. I love your videos and much love + support your way!
Me: "It couldn't be that cringe. I've seen E2 and all kinds of crypto nonsense."
Me after 30 seconds of a guy dead-panning his relationship troubles: "I always underestimate these people"
I still love this line "and the only new thing we showed us was grass... and THAT was buggy as hell!" LOL
He gets hit by a taxi while wearing earbuds, so the dude invents the kind of useless gadget found in 3AM infomercials (or late-90s Sharper Image), puts together a Kickstarter campaign to get it funded and even produces a trailer for it.
Instead of, say, wearing only one earbud.
I wonder how deaf people manage to cross roads safely without using his amazing device?
29:45 The inflatable man in the background banging his head against the building is funnily resonating with what Skiazos has to say in that particular segment.
I think you broke my back with laughter, Callum..
Not sure If I'm supposed to sue or donate now xD
Thanks for this wild ride!
How did I miss the thrilling conclusion to this disaster? How did I miss "Enums?" Oh boy... Enums will now be my response to anything I don't understand
As I really enjoy all of your content, I guess in a way I really am grateful for Dreamworld for giving their project a go. What a strange world that I'm thankful to these devs!
Any genre any art style reads to me as 'we bought dozens of unrelated art packs and are't going to do anything to unify them.'
We Looked at "The Death of DreamWorld"
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Now I'm waiting for "The Rise of NightmareWorld"
We're still working super hard on NightmareWorld for you all! - Lore Team member :D x
@@TheKindKitten Can't Wait!! :DD
Tactical comment for the algotythm.
Nice video, Callum.
I'm always laughing when you tell Josh what they messed up in Dream World again in your Tangent Tavern episodes. 😂😂
If Dreamworld somehow made it out alive, it will have the same energy of your typical old Minecraft anarchy servers made by 10 year olds. The world is going to be full of destruction, upside down T's, the funny moustache man symbol, and oh my god that supporter names engraved on the walls, That's very minecrafty, i remember playing Minecraft PE server that has a lot of those.
Lmao loving the V8-Engine in grandma's mobility scooter line
Also: I would LOVE more of this kind of videos :)
Correction to 25:50. Peer to peer doesn't necessarily mean that every peer trusts every other peer. Factorio multiplayer was initially peer to peer, and every client validated the same rules that a sever would. If a client sent an invalid state transition, this would cause a "desync" as it was rejected. That Dreamworld did not do the same isn't due to peer to peer.
This was a great recap! I watched all the content when it was still fresh but honestly hadnt heard anything for a while. thanks for filling me in. your content is really solid.