@RunInGun Seeing how even THAT wasn't in the alpha, shows they have no fing idea on even beginner design. There are even basic tutorials in youtube how to make objects with collision. :D
This looks like my private UED project, i get the same graphical looks (Although i getting way better FPS then that), and have about the same development time. Only difference, i started last week using UED for the first time, and i actually have no utter idear what i'm doing, and figuring things out takes hours if not days, and glad i just saw how to make speedy roads and a pivoting door, THNX for the tutorial, saves alot of time actually searching for such tutorials. Whole Dreamworld feels to me as a utter n00b learning project to UED, like mine, but they sold as a game, as to anyone elses that never will be put to public, nor leaves said persons computer, as its just that, a practice project to learn
the "fix" was nothing working, The dreamworld uses a free asset, called Easy Build System they even failed to change the default icons the plugin uses, and you can't just add your BP in that, this is like attaching wheels on a car with superglue and calling yourself a mechanic
Trust me. Earth 2 is so much smarter than what Dreamworld is that the devs are merely jealous they didn't come up with the idea of that moneymaking machine
As a dev it's so funny to me, because at this point in the project there should be thousands of low-hanging fruit, you have no users to harm by just slapping fixes on everything, and all the code is fresh in your mind - your patch notes should be like 20 minor things a day. Unless of course, you've copy and pasted millions of lines and don't understand any of them
I mean it's obvious these devs either don't care or don't have any clue on what they are doing. I just want to know their marketing tactics cause I can't get anybody to look at my shit like this 🤣
Imagine how salty these guys are that they have to attempt developing a playable game now that they got exposed instead of just running off with the money.
@BaxiTube That's exactly my point lol. Before they could claim it was a failed project. Now they're obviously scammers so they have to make it look like a failed project again.
@@solosoprano they're months away from a playable alpha, and now with no support at all, they'll either admit to messing up, or waste a big pile of money on this trainwreck.
@@Desmont123 yeah true but was talking about kick starter like if they only promised a playable alpha that’s all I forgot if they did or no but at least they got the release date on time.
If you can believe what his ex girlfriend says they actually believe they can develop this and don't actually intentionally try to scam, meaning they are not scammers but incredibly simple minded. But who knows, it really doesn't make a difference I guess
I will be honest: Compared to E2 Dreamworld has actually become funny. It's like a relieve to watch our two favorite Kickstarter devs struggling with tutorial level game-dev problems. :D
E2 is the biggest scam out there, and Dreamworld makes Release Fallout 76 look like an amazing, game mechanic genius game. Having them both being dealt with at the same time is worrying, depressing, and stressful. Dreamworld is almost a meme now, but the fact they still make money off people is bad. It hurts the gaming market. (it needs shut down, silenced, removed, and sued so these idiots don't try again)
Dreamworld "devs" watching this video once you start coding in UE4 be like: "WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN!" 2 weeks later: *Patch Notes* -Doors are fixed -Speedy roads fixed XD
Oh the irony of accusing somebody of behaving a certain way and then doing the exact same thing yourself, for likes on a comment or a heart from the channel owner LMAO. When you seen Cavthree1's comment you must've thought "WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN", but i get guess you just CTRL+C, CTRL+V and then modified it some didn't you.
@@djnebuchanezzer actually no, I didn’t see the comment until now, tho thanks for taking your time to show how much of a loser you by just replying to this comment in that manner. I hope you had your fragile ego boosted.
File this under: compelling evidence. You fully deconstructed their bogus patch and work hour claims, schooled them in Unreal, AND taught us all a few tricks. All in a clean, concise, 15 minute vid. The lawyer sharks must smell blood at this point.
@@CallumUpton I wish this would be the case too, however this is unlikely to happen because of the legal-world, however it may be used in an exhibit to prove state of mind (malice) which would be required for a claim such as this one. - This video doesn't show any compelling evidence, them being idiots who cannot develop is not illegal however it may be used to prove state of mind and to back up the claim that the game was clearly fraudulent and at the very least a money laundering scheme. - They are not committing a crime by their update patch notes alone, however it could once again be used to prove they had no intent to develop a functional game, the best they could argue in this case is "good faith" which the Prosecutors would then have to rebut.
@@CallumUpton However, your video is extremely informative and interesting either way and I wish you the best of luck with your coverage on this, you're very entertaining.
Well that’s what happens when you actually want to make a game. It’s like taking a shit, no tutorial needed. You just do it for it out of necessity and things start to flow 🤷🏻♂️ 😂😂
Well, of course noone can find the chests, with 639 work hours and 55 work minutes and nothing else to do the devs are bound to find some stellar hiding spots
That chair rotation and door makes absolute sense if you are living in a "dream world" (the one that Zach and Garrison are both living in where they are legends in their own minds). I believe the two are inter-dimensional 10th Dimensional travelers caught between multiple universes where in one universe, they are professional trolls, in their own universe where they are legendary developers (which is why this thing looks so whacked to us because there are coordinates we cannot envision beyond the 3rd dimension), or professional liars in another which is what this kickstarter is in our universe.
Everything I have seen in this game is less than 20hrs of work total. Adding the multiplayer minimap is trivial, maybe about 30 minutes. This seems like literally one kid learning UE for the first time.
Hi Tywin, i have a proposal, you could start a series where you explore/promote small indie games that (in your opinion) need actual support. This could counter-balance the damage done by scam project like DW.
That speedy road and door you made as example won't actually replicate over the network. But then again, neither does the dreamworld implementation, so it's a fair example. Probably why the treasure chests don't show up as well, no replication set up. They showed up for them when they pressed play in editor and then said "yep, all good"
It's all such basic ideas that are required to even try making a networked game, I would not be surprised if half the shit was on the client and easily hackable.
You can tell they jumped into Unreal with no tutorials, no practice concepts, and no knowledge whatsoever for even basic map design. Like what the hell, it takes a 5 second search to find hundreds of video tutorials on youtube.
Yeah, another dreamworld series while waiting for Earth2 update. I hope community effort like this can help cleaning the environment of gaming community from these kind of scam.
@@XraynPR Yeah, in term of damage Earth 2 is more toxic. people got scammed in Dreamworld can be identified as Gamer, but Earth2, its mixed with a bunch of people trying to get rich quick without effort, even effort for doing proper due diligence and think rationally.
Most people spend WEEKS and MONTHS building stuff in the engine if they are making custom original games. If you make a custom game, its alot of work involved. This game reminds me of ET which they buried down in the rubbish dump because it wouldn't sell. The Arena was the worst thing I thought about this game. i think that's the only original thing they made in the whole map.
ET sold really well for its time. ATARI did burry games but it was not just ET games they try to burry in secret many games in attempt to empty their warehause
@@paradoxzee6834 The fans that brought the ET game got upset with the developer because the game was bad but the game was also buggy... Unless you knew how to get around all the glitches in the game the ET game was just unplayable. I don't think updating Dreamworld is going to improve much. So the fixes only take someone who knows what they are doing just a couple of minutes to implement. How can it take hundreds of hours of time between 4 people just to do these quick 2 minute updates?. Reminds me of what I put in my own dialog in my own project:. "Skynar: Well speaking of uniform, I'm hoping the glow of my uniform will scare off the enemy so I won't be attacked. They will know I'm a no attack zone. Storm: Huh? That doesn't make any sense to me Skynar, You're all lit up like the Telorian Globas Worms. They can see you a mile away with bad flickering. If the fans start going full blast, you know Skynar is coming." Rex: Let me know when you get the blue screen. I like to be informed. I did put that into the dialog of my game. So are the fans already going full blast on people's machines when people are playing Dreamworld when there's only about 3-4 people online?
@@germanslice honestly dude, you don't even need to know what you're doing. i'm gonna be honest, i could probably find a tutorial for literally each of these things they want to do online and then just implement it myself
@@germanslice I have a lot of respect for the developer of ET. Was it a good game? No. Was it developed in 36 days to make the holiday rush, on a videogame console that didn't have enough onboard memory to store this sentence? Yes.
The funniest part is that, if I remember correctly from the week I spent playing around in UE4, there's literally a better door implementation in the in-engine tutorial that they could've copied.
The part where you showed what they programmed, and then you programmed something that actually works, was awesome and reminded me of channels that debunk 5-minute-crafts hacks xDD loving this, subbed to you ASAP
It's "games" like dreamworld that make me, a self-taught intermediate-level developer, confident that no matter how shite of a job I do of things, there are still worse "games" out there.
You have no idea how bad it gets out there. I also get an amazing amount of catharsis out of stuff like this. Similar to watching Cops; "thank god that isn't me and I guess I'm not so bad after all."
You see Callum, it took them so long because they don't have any concept of how blueprints work and their little minds take so long to process a simple interactions system.. Great video as always!
With detailed breakdowns like this including you actually doing what they attempted to implement either equivalently or better makes me wish you had a higher sub count, you really deserve more exposure. For the area of YT you've decided to go into you really to put out better quality videos with a lot more fact checks than the average person in your area, keep up the good work, can't wait to see the next one
Hey man, never heard of you before but I'm impressed at your levelheaded approach and how you provide evidence to us laymen. Keep it up, scammers need to be held accountable, ESPECIALLY if they're scamming children.
Great video as always! Would really enjoying seeing videos with you explaining some elements of game design, you have a great way of talking through steps.
This is a fantastic format. Read update - discuss what it means - replicate it yourself in engine. You're teaching the community what to look out for and keeping it interesting and engaging. Great video, I'd love to see more like this.
I can't even imagine the amount of work needed to even make their build stable. This guy dug is own grave, but can't just admit and apologize or the backers will eat his lunch money. He needs to declare bankruptcy.
Okay but they promised ridiculous size and scale, and instead cant handle making a tiny candyland walking simulator with 10 fps. Mobile mmorpgs have done far more with less. They can’t make a simple game, yet they promised a million people online at once. I still think they are entirely scam artists, and had no intention of reaching that.
i'm tired as hell because i've been cramming all night and thought you were referring to one of the devs as "dug", as in "this guy, dug" and wondered who the fuck dug was before remembering you're supposed to read an entire phrase and not stop randomly I'm passing my finals to become a librarian by the way
This was great video man, gave a new perspective as you were building yourself the update within the studio. reminded me analytic workflows i built with alteryx in the past when manipulating data. more of this please!
7:38 "This is the laziest implementation of a door I have ever, ever seen". This is one of my favourite lines on youtube not related to a ghost hunting show.
Mind sharing a ghost hunting quote? My favorite ghost hunting moment was the time a group set up EMF outside during a thunderstorm, and were amazed that there was, in fact, electrical energy.
I built a fully functioning f16 mod, with animations, code for vtol vr I’m around 250 hours with no prior knowledge of unity, c#, or modelling. Plus I’m old as lucifer. Keep the pressure on
Let's not forget the 300 second timer they put in to make it look like someone new was logging into Dreamworld to attempt to make it look popular than it will never be.
When you place a door down in this "game" and interact with it: You spin me right 'round, baby Right 'round like a record, baby Right 'round, 'round, 'round You spin me right 'round, baby Right 'round like a record, baby Right 'round, 'round, 'round
@@ReverendUncleRuckus I only typed half. I copy pasted the lyrics because I can never guess them correctly. And if you dont like my silly little joke, good for you, we all have our own tastes Have a nice day
"Something will happen" The government doesn't care about scammers Callum. Not in the USA. It only cares if they are scamming the rich. I think the best you can hope for is that word of this will get out to their funders and they will stop sending money.
I didn't know that unreal engine had a labview interface, that's kinda neat. Still embaressing on dreamworlds part lol, I could make their doors and sidewalks in unity effortlessly lol. I shouldn't feel like I as a hobbyist can do better then the people who raised tens of thousands of dollars to make the most ambitious game in history in 5 minutes lol
This was hilarious to watch, really like when you're losing it a little there, thanks for making me laugh with you there. I might check out other Dreamworld videos, and part of me wishes that E2 had something similarily playable as well just so I could see you take that apart in such a fashion as well. :-D
His Gary leaving him reminds me of when my father, Gary, left me I do not mourn his loss, for he is an artist-poet who wanted for me to be raised on buddhism and coldplay, and whom, upon hearing i was accepted in medical school, chastised me, called me racist, and told me going to art school was my destiny I think we can all afford to lose a few Garys here and there
Now I'm imagining Bob Ross doing game dev tutorials; "we'll put a little tree here and another one beside it because every little tree needs a friend...now we'll do the gibbing and gore effects where we'll blow the devil out of our little NPCs..."
They have no experience with Unreal, the entire DreamWorld looks like a weekend project from a first-semester undergrad student. It's like one of those people that want to try game development for the first time but don't want to start simple and build upon it, they want an MMO as a first project, the most challenging type of game to develop, right now they are glueing assets on the go and hoping people eat them and shut the fuck up.
Me taking notes on door implementations for my own hobby game..... "Oooooooooh! That's how it's done" -nods- Edit: I had been trying to do all door movement implementation in blender and transfer it into unreal without success.... I was following a turorial.... but this seems to be a much better way of doing it....
80 hours a week would also mean they are overworking people which would also be bad. Overworking your employees is also morally wrong. Thankfully it's obvious they didn't actually work 80 hours. LOL
The only way this isn't a scam is if these guys have zero knowledge of game design and are learning as they go, in which case they should have taken a step back and not gone public with the project, even for funding, until they had the base knowledge and product to show as a pre-alpha, and label it as such. Also, if that were the case, they should have clearly disclosed that before asking for money. It's one thing to say "this hasn't been done before, we don't know how, so bear with us while we figure it out" and totally another to say "ThIs Is GoNnA bE gReAt!!!" when you don't know your right foot from your left on the project
keep it up callum I love that you know more about game design than these two clowns.... its embarrassing how easy it was to setup a properly working door
I just want to mention again: A guy created a diablo clone in one week! And now look at the "great dreamworld team" again and see what the "did" after two weeks....
That's not very interesting as tons of people have been caught buying pc games and then going into the pictures and changing them to something else and calling it a new game. If they did a 24 hour livestreams of them coding from scratch I eould.eatch that.
@@azinyefantasy4445 I know and maybe that is the case but like I said before: it doesn't matter because it works at least. Even if all is copy-paste and just here and there a change it's more work than what dreamworld took to make it.
Hey, I really appreciate you showing off making the door and sidewalk like that. People like me can look at what Dreamworld is showing off and think "um, that SEEMS really strange to need to spend so much time on..." But it's breakdowns like this that really help put things into perspective and spread knowledge. I think part of the reason these types of devs can con so many people is the amount of us who really have little to no understanding of what it takes to make the final product. Anyway can't wait to see you fully recreate the Kingdoms of Elyria alpha in 10 minutes lol. Thanks for sharing this.
they are not lazzy.. they are scamming. A lazy person still know how to do whatever they are not doing. A scammer pretend to know how to do something he does not know.
Thanks for the breakdown of all this! I wasnt aware of this latest "early access" asset flip scam, and the programmer/designer knowledge is very cool. Big sub from me my man, wish I could like this more than once lol
Given a couple weeks, with only the free assets Epic has given away and things that are just free utilities...even a beginner ue4 user could make something better than this with zero coding and only a basic understanding of the blueprints ststem. I've only been playing around in unreal for a couple months and I understand more about it than these geniuses did in like, a year, they're con artists and not even good ones
The lack of effort put into the game is extremely odd, even for a scam. It's almost as if they have no interest whatsoever in gaming or game development, and can't even be bothered to follow a couple UA-cam tutorials. I'm not even a game developer, nor ever plan to be, yet I still watch tutorials because I have a general interest in gaming.
Imo they never planned to release a full game. Hence the loophole about not having to deliver a full game, just an alpha to backers. Now the medie attention got so big, they have to deliver cause their faces are all over the internet, no chance to just slink away with the money. But maybe that's all just suspicion. Maybe they ARE that stupid. Who knows 🤷
Wow, their BUYING assets now instead of just using free ones? Huh...an improvement??? Nahh... As someone loves working in the Unreal Engine. Specifically, implementing my own art assets, this entire shitshow this hurts my soul. This really is not hard to do. You just have to know what your doing.
If the entire team is doing 80 hours a week, that's a major red flag. Within a couple of weeks everyone will be burned out and they'll have no developers left.
On one hand I understand that a week's progress can sometimes (or even often) not amount to not a lot to show, like I don't think anybody would be hyped up hearing "oh yeah guys, we just refactored our audio library integration". But that's the kinda stuff you really ought to know after _all those years of experience as a programmer_ so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Like, I remember Notch doing his "seecret friday updates", but I still think that's far from what you should realistically aiming for; after all, even those faded out once the feature list got too complex. If this was a genuine project (and that's a big fucking "if") I'd be happier with monthly updates and knowing that in the mean time they get shit done. Y'know, kinda like the actually good early access games do it.
As a layman what I gather from this is Unreal tools are weirdly easy to use These devs are less competent than I was learning to use adobe audio my summer at a radio station. Yikes.
I've made more playable games from the Unreal Editor back when I was 16 years old, 10 years ago. I'm calling it now, next week we will have working doors as they franticly copy what you coded in this video.
Hopefully we keep getting updates on this garbage. I want to see what happens in some months lmao.
Trust me i'll follow this wreck into the grave
@@CallumUpton 9:33 Im beginning to think you are going to make us the dreamworld we ALWAYS wanted, but not the one we deserved
They are absolutely working 80 hour weeks. That isn't a lie. That is how much time they spend on Minecraft servers talking to 14 year old girls.
With their garbage updates combined....we get Epic garbage!!
@RunInGun Seeing how even THAT wasn't in the alpha, shows they have no fing idea on even beginner design. There are even basic tutorials in youtube how to make objects with collision. :D
Dreamworld Devs watching Callum fix the door..."WRITE THAT DOWN, WRITE THAT DOWN!!!"
Hey, it's free, why not?
I believe 100% this is exactly what they're going to do.
kekw
This looks like my private UED project, i get the same graphical looks (Although i getting way better FPS then that), and have about the same development time.
Only difference, i started last week using UED for the first time, and i actually have no utter idear what i'm doing, and figuring things out takes hours if not days, and glad i just saw how to make speedy roads and a pivoting door, THNX for the tutorial, saves alot of time actually searching for such tutorials.
Whole Dreamworld feels to me as a utter n00b learning project to UED, like mine, but they sold as a game, as to anyone elses that never will be put to public, nor leaves said persons computer, as its just that, a practice project to learn
the "fix" was nothing working, The dreamworld uses a free asset, called Easy Build System they even failed to change the default icons the plugin uses, and you can't just add your BP in that, this is like attaching wheels on a car with superglue and calling yourself a mechanic
I hope Earth 2 licenses DreamWorlds amazing tech so they can have billions or even trillions of players online!
If aliens ever contact us, it is because they want to borrow the awesome tech man! >.> ... aliens are gamers too!
i want no neck to say this. some how if he says it it'll become ready player one.
... with biomes on the blockchain.
Trust me. Earth 2 is so much smarter than what Dreamworld is that the devs are merely jealous they didn't come up with the idea of that moneymaking machine
Right???
Them frames would be amazing
As a dev it's so funny to me, because at this point in the project there should be thousands of low-hanging fruit, you have no users to harm by just slapping fixes on everything, and all the code is fresh in your mind - your patch notes should be like 20 minor things a day.
Unless of course, you've copy and pasted millions of lines and don't understand any of them
This, so much this
I mean it's obvious these devs either don't care or don't have any clue on what they are doing. I just want to know their marketing tactics cause I can't get anybody to look at my shit like this 🤣
Imagine how salty these guys are that they have to attempt developing a playable game now that they got exposed instead of just running off with the money.
@BaxiTube That's exactly my point lol. Before they could claim it was a failed project. Now they're obviously scammers so they have to make it look like a failed project again.
Question didn’t they promised to just release a playable alpha??
@@solosoprano they're months away from a playable alpha, and now with no support at all, they'll either admit to messing up, or waste a big pile of money on this trainwreck.
@@Desmont123 yeah true but was talking about kick starter like if they only promised a playable alpha that’s all I forgot if they did or no but at least they got the release date on time.
If you can believe what his ex girlfriend says they actually believe they can develop this and don't actually intentionally try to scam, meaning they are not scammers but incredibly simple minded. But who knows, it really doesn't make a difference I guess
I will be honest: Compared to E2 Dreamworld has actually become funny. It's like a relieve to watch our two favorite Kickstarter devs struggling with tutorial level game-dev problems. :D
E2 is Giovanni, Dreamworld are Jesse and James
tune in ext week to find out how these boys cope with whatever other BS they try to add
E2 is the biggest scam out there, and Dreamworld makes Release Fallout 76 look like an amazing, game mechanic genius game. Having them both being dealt with at the same time is worrying, depressing, and stressful. Dreamworld is almost a meme now, but the fact they still make money off people is bad. It hurts the gaming market. (it needs shut down, silenced, removed, and sued so these idiots don't try again)
They might not be struggling to figure out game development. They might just be really lazy. Or you know, both.
Yeah they definitely find their bank accounts funny to look at.
This breakdown, especially with the speedrun, really took your coverage to a new level.
I swear, your content quality gets better with every upload.
thank you! i really appreciate the kind words
@@CallumUpton please keep it up your own programming! Even with mistakes its fantastic!
@@duckmeat4674 yeah, but that is bullshit, not programming. It wouldn't actually work with the built in build system of that "game"
Absolutely - It's one thing to say it's an easy update, it's a whole other level to give an actual demonstration
Dreamworld "devs" watching this video once you start coding in UE4 be like:
"WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN!"
2 weeks later:
*Patch Notes*
-Doors are fixed
-Speedy roads fixed
XD
-World healing delayed so players can have a chance to explore the new door mechanics.
lol
Oh the irony of accusing somebody of behaving a certain way and then doing the exact same thing yourself, for likes on a comment or a heart from the channel owner LMAO. When you seen Cavthree1's comment you must've thought "WRITE THAT DOWN WRITE THAT DOWN", but i get guess you just CTRL+C, CTRL+V and then modified it some didn't you.
@@djnebuchanezzer actually no, I didn’t see the comment until now, tho thanks for taking your time to show how much of a loser you by just replying to this comment in that manner. I hope you had your fragile ego boosted.
@@djnebuchanezzer "Miserable" definitely fits your personality. Someone's frustrated with his life...
File this under: compelling evidence. You fully deconstructed their bogus patch and work hour claims, schooled them in Unreal, AND taught us all a few tricks. All in a clean, concise, 15 minute vid. The lawyer sharks must smell blood at this point.
thanks! im honestly loping a lot of my videos will be usable if a court case arises
@@CallumUpton I wish this would be the case too, however this is unlikely to happen because of the legal-world, however it may be used in an exhibit to prove state of mind (malice) which would be required for a claim such as this one.
- This video doesn't show any compelling evidence, them being idiots who cannot develop is not illegal however it may be used to prove state of mind and to back up the claim that the game was clearly fraudulent and at the very least a money laundering scheme.
- They are not committing a crime by their update patch notes alone, however it could once again be used to prove they had no intent to develop a functional game, the best they could argue in this case is "good faith" which the Prosecutors would then have to rebut.
@@CallumUpton However, your video is extremely informative and interesting either way and I wish you the best of luck with your coverage on this, you're very entertaining.
@@awesomeplays9074 I would love to see the evidence of them taking 10 hours to do something that Callum took 2min to do lol.
Gary: Watches 8 times in slow motion to fix the doors then Downvotes video
Another 80 hours well spent.
Downvotes? This is UA-cam son, we call em dislikes around these parts. *tips strawhead*
@@boneman-calciumenjoyer8290 the youtuber moderator
@@nottheenglishguy2923 I was trying to sound like a hillbilly, I suspect I failed at that...
Everquest had every door in the world fully functioning, with sound effects, the day it launched 21 years ago.
And yet wow still doesn't have functioning door technology. It's clearly a lost art.
@@Rei-Rei Well it looks easy in the video, but doors are actually a real PITA to add in
@@user-oo3oi9ki2j not really
Well that’s what happens when you actually want to make a game. It’s like taking a shit, no tutorial needed. You just do it for it out of necessity and things start to flow 🤷🏻♂️ 😂😂
We all know Callum is just gunning for a job at Dreamworld studios
im sending them this as my resume
There is a rumor going around that Dreamworld is trying to recruit the devs from Raid legends. lol
@@muajin tbf Raid Shadow Legends is a viable, functional and profitable product. DW isn't.
@@davlos8138 I was joking. Lol I’ve made basic Godot stuff better then this. And I suck at design.
@@muajin embrace the suck of design, become intentionally garish and disturbing
im very up for this new speedrun category, programing dreamworld any%
The speedruns would just be based on how fast people can download assets.
I wonder if the "New player joined" is also faked and just put in by a fix time, like it pops up every 5 minutes.
yes! its actually on a 300 second timer. i was supposed to mention it on this video but got carried away with my speedrun
@@CallumUpton Is the game multiplayer at all? Like are the things that you made actually visible to anyone else
@@CallumUpton Can you play it offline, but it still would say "Player joined"? That would make it the first MMOfflineRPG xD
Well, of course noone can find the chests, with 639 work hours and 55 work minutes and nothing else to do the devs are bound to find some stellar hiding spots
That chair rotation and door makes absolute sense if you are living in a "dream world" (the one that Zach and Garrison are both living in where they are legends in their own minds). I believe the two are inter-dimensional 10th Dimensional travelers caught between multiple universes where in one universe, they are professional trolls, in their own universe where they are legendary developers (which is why this thing looks so whacked to us because there are coordinates we cannot envision beyond the 3rd dimension), or professional liars in another which is what this kickstarter is in our universe.
Thanks I'll be seeing whatever that is on the right of the thumbnail in my nightmares now.
Thats zach 😘
Everything I have seen in this game is less than 20hrs of work total. Adding the multiplayer minimap is trivial, maybe about 30 minutes. This seems like literally one kid learning UE for the first time.
Hi Tywin, i have a proposal, you could start a series where you explore/promote small indie games that (in your opinion) need actual support. This could counter-balance the damage done by scam project like DW.
ofcourse! a Lanister always pays his debts
That speedy road and door you made as example won't actually replicate over the network.
But then again, neither does the dreamworld implementation, so it's a fair example.
Probably why the treasure chests don't show up as well, no replication set up. They showed up for them when they pressed play in editor and then said "yep, all good"
yeah they added those 2 things client-side which is exactly why i cloned their method
It's all such basic ideas that are required to even try making a networked game, I would not be surprised if half the shit was on the client and easily hackable.
@@lennysmileyface They don't have any experience in video games or video game design. I have no idea why they're even trying.
You can tell they jumped into Unreal with no tutorials, no practice concepts, and no knowledge whatsoever for even basic map design. Like what the hell, it takes a 5 second search to find hundreds of video tutorials on youtube.
I love that actual developers are calling them out for their shadiness. Makes this much more interesting lol
Yeah, another dreamworld series while waiting for Earth2 update.
I hope community effort like this can help cleaning the environment of gaming community from these kind of scam.
@@XraynPR Yeah, in term of damage Earth 2 is more toxic. people got scammed in Dreamworld can be identified as Gamer, but Earth2, its mixed with a bunch of people trying to get rich quick without effort, even effort for doing proper due diligence and think rationally.
@@fatewalker4341 I fear the day when actual game companies adopt that model, and some will ...
Thats our goal!
@@fatewalker4341 wait, where did my comment go?
What's so depressing isn't even these scammers, it's the people who buy all in and believe them
Most people spend WEEKS and MONTHS building stuff in the engine if they are making custom original games. If you make a custom game, its alot
of work involved.
This game reminds me of ET which they buried down in the rubbish dump because it wouldn't sell.
The Arena was the worst thing I thought about this game. i think that's the only original thing they made in the whole map.
ET sold really well for its time.
ATARI did burry games but it was not just ET games they try to burry in secret many games in attempt to empty their warehause
@@paradoxzee6834 The fans that brought the ET game got upset with the developer because the game was bad but the game was also buggy... Unless you knew how to get around all the glitches in the game the ET game was just unplayable.
I don't think updating Dreamworld is going to improve much. So the fixes only take someone who knows what they are doing just a couple of minutes to implement.
How can it take hundreds of hours of time between 4 people just to do these quick 2 minute updates?.
Reminds me of what I put in my own dialog in my own project:.
"Skynar: Well speaking of uniform, I'm hoping the glow of my uniform will scare off the enemy so I won't be attacked. They will know I'm a no attack zone.
Storm: Huh? That doesn't make any sense to me Skynar, You're all lit up like the Telorian Globas Worms. They can see you a mile away with bad flickering. If the fans start going full blast, you know Skynar is coming."
Rex: Let me know when you get the blue screen. I like to be informed.
I did put that into the dialog of my game.
So are the fans already going full blast on people's machines when people are playing Dreamworld when there's only about 3-4 people online?
@@germanslice honestly dude, you don't even need to know what you're doing. i'm gonna be honest, i could probably find a tutorial for literally each of these things they want to do online and then just implement it myself
@@germanslice I have a lot of respect for the developer of ET. Was it a good game? No. Was it developed in 36 days to make the holiday rush, on a videogame console that didn't have enough onboard memory to store this sentence? Yes.
@@AjaxGb 36 days, that's not long.
was it written in assembly code
callum over here making tutorials for the Google, Facebook, Apple engineer 🤔😆
The funniest part is that, if I remember correctly from the week I spent playing around in UE4, there's literally a better door implementation in the in-engine tutorial that they could've copied.
The part where you showed what they programmed, and then you programmed something that actually works, was awesome and reminded me of channels that debunk 5-minute-crafts hacks xDD loving this, subbed to you ASAP
i really wish more people would show exactly how long things should take and exactly how its done correctly.... fantastic job
6 hours. God i cant wait
New GOTY haha
lol, love the dev speedrun. Great content, keep up the goodwork man.
It's "games" like dreamworld that make me, a self-taught intermediate-level developer, confident that no matter how shite of a job I do of things, there are still worse "games" out there.
You have no idea how bad it gets out there.
I also get an amazing amount of catharsis out of stuff like this. Similar to watching Cops; "thank god that isn't me and I guess I'm not so bad after all."
@@cosmiccoffee8497 HAHA gonna keep this in mind from now on
You see Callum, it took them so long because they don't have any concept of how blueprints work and their little minds take so long to process a simple interactions system.. Great video as always!
Dreamworld developers are going to use this video as a tutorial.
god i hope so....
I imagine them watching this video :
"Wait, wait ! How did he do this door thingie again ?"
With detailed breakdowns like this including you actually doing what they attempted to implement either equivalently or better makes me wish you had a higher sub count, you really deserve more exposure. For the area of YT you've decided to go into you really to put out better quality videos with a lot more fact checks than the average person in your area, keep up the good work, can't wait to see the next one
If every I decide to learn coding and start a Kickscam for a game, the "team" will be called Togglebox Studios.
Yay!
Hire me! I'm an artist IRL, and not a digital one. I have never programmed or coded anything in my life, so I'm qualified, yes?
Hey man, never heard of you before but I'm impressed at your levelheaded approach and how you provide evidence to us laymen. Keep it up, scammers need to be held accountable, ESPECIALLY if they're scamming children.
Great video as always! Would really enjoying seeing videos with you explaining some elements of game design, you have a great way of talking through steps.
I love how you use the Blueprint as well, instead of C++, shocking development updates, Blueprint is *so easy*.
Gigabear soon to be the only player in Dreamworld, his Dream come true. Mabey they will make him a GM and a Mod on discord!
This is a fantastic format. Read update - discuss what it means - replicate it yourself in engine.
You're teaching the community what to look out for and keeping it interesting and engaging. Great video, I'd love to see more like this.
I can't even imagine the amount of work needed to even make their build stable. This guy dug is own grave, but can't just admit and apologize or the backers will eat his lunch money.
He needs to declare bankruptcy.
Okay but they promised ridiculous size and scale, and instead cant handle making a tiny candyland walking simulator with 10 fps. Mobile mmorpgs have done far more with less. They can’t make a simple game, yet they promised a million people online at once. I still think they are entirely scam artists, and had no intention of reaching that.
i'm tired as hell because i've been cramming all night and thought you were referring to one of the devs as "dug", as in "this guy, dug" and wondered who the fuck dug was before remembering you're supposed to read an entire phrase and not stop randomly
I'm passing my finals to become a librarian by the way
@@Proserpira Ohh no, dug is a real person. Dug is dead, I guess you're the new dug now...
@@DrakeOola all work and no play makes a librarian dug
@@Proserpira haha legit made me laugh
This was great video man, gave a new perspective as you were building yourself the update within the studio. reminded me analytic workflows i built with alteryx in the past when manipulating data. more of this please!
This is inspiring me to start learning Unity again. Just for funsies - you won't see me running a kickstarter soon.
Love the intro edits in this one
7:38 "This is the laziest implementation of a door I have ever, ever seen". This is one of my favourite lines on youtube not related to a ghost hunting show.
Mind sharing a ghost hunting quote?
My favorite ghost hunting moment was the time a group set up EMF outside during a thunderstorm, and were amazed that there was, in fact, electrical energy.
if i had planned on scamming people like this i most def would NOT put my face on camera.
I built a fully functioning f16 mod, with animations, code for vtol vr I’m around 250 hours with no prior knowledge of unity, c#, or modelling. Plus I’m old as lucifer. Keep the pressure on
Let's not forget the 300 second timer they put in to make it look like someone new was logging into Dreamworld to attempt to make it look popular than it will never be.
I was wondering if that was a glitch or something. Also, could you imagine that on an actual MMO? Annoying af
Oh boy can't wait for the vid
Plot twist; Callum lead developer of DW incoming. Game actually lives up to it's motto, and KiraTV shaves his head.
lol
When you place a door down in this "game" and interact with it:
You spin me right 'round, baby
Right 'round like a record, baby
Right 'round, 'round, 'round
You spin me right 'round, baby
Right 'round like a record, baby
Right 'round, 'round, 'round
Imagine being so boring that you really typed that.
@@ReverendUncleRuckus I only typed half. I copy pasted the lyrics because I can never guess them correctly.
And if you dont like my silly little joke, good for you, we all have our own tastes
Have a nice day
"Something will happen"
The government doesn't care about scammers Callum. Not in the USA. It only cares if they are scamming the rich. I think the best you can hope for is that word of this will get out to their funders and they will stop sending money.
yeah i dont think its going to be gov related.
How about getting kids to fund a kickstarter, that can't be legal surely?
@@Rob2k22 Not their fault. Its a Kickstarter Thing if they pledge and are Not 18
I didn't know that unreal engine had a labview interface, that's kinda neat. Still embaressing on dreamworlds part lol, I could make their doors and sidewalks in unity effortlessly lol. I shouldn't feel like I as a hobbyist can do better then the people who raised tens of thousands of dollars to make the most ambitious game in history in 5 minutes lol
they call it bleuprints and it is a fully node based c++ its incredible!
@@CallumUpton one of them must of stumbled across it
This was hilarious to watch, really like when you're losing it a little there, thanks for making me laugh with you there. I might check out other Dreamworld videos, and part of me wishes that E2 had something similarily playable as well just so I could see you take that apart in such a fashion as well. :-D
I'm so happy that Gary and Zack are back together!! When is the wedding? You see guys? Love will always win in the end!!
Aww true love ❤️💐💋
His Gary leaving him reminds me of when my father, Gary, left me
I do not mourn his loss, for he is an artist-poet who wanted for me to be raised on buddhism and coldplay, and whom, upon hearing i was accepted in medical school, chastised me, called me racist, and told me going to art school was my destiny
I think we can all afford to lose a few Garys here and there
ive been up till 3am cramming for my finals today and you all have to suffer my stupid comments no mercy
Your the man, Hitler! I hope for France you pass ur finals
@@ight6269 how rude! I live in Switzerland, not Austria!
1:07 I'm surprised by the syllable stress here. Presumably they mean "axes" (acksees) as in plural of "axis", not the plural of ax/axe.
Yeah, I know this video is here to mock the devs and all, but not knowing how to recognise or pronounce the plural of “axis” is not on them.
Some might say it's beating a dead horse, I say you're giving me good times
They still charging money so its far from dead.
and the speed run is Bob Ross style too, so you can probably subtract a minute at least lmao
Now I'm imagining Bob Ross doing game dev tutorials; "we'll put a little tree here and another one beside it because every little tree needs a friend...now we'll do the gibbing and gore effects where we'll blow the devil out of our little NPCs..."
They have no experience with Unreal, the entire DreamWorld looks like a weekend project from a first-semester undergrad student. It's like one of those people that want to try game development for the first time but don't want to start simple and build upon it, they want an MMO as a first project, the most challenging type of game to develop, right now they are glueing assets on the go and hoping people eat them and shut the fuck up.
Me taking notes on door implementations for my own hobby game..... "Oooooooooh! That's how it's done" -nods-
Edit: I had been trying to do all door movement implementation in blender and transfer it into unreal without success.... I was following a turorial.... but this seems to be a much better way of doing it....
I love how I'm watching a 1080p 60fps video but the game looks like a slideshow.
80 hours a week would also mean they are overworking people which would also be bad. Overworking your employees is also morally wrong.
Thankfully it's obvious they didn't actually work 80 hours. LOL
The only way this isn't a scam is if these guys have zero knowledge of game design and are learning as they go, in which case they should have taken a step back and not gone public with the project, even for funding, until they had the base knowledge and product to show as a pre-alpha, and label it as such. Also, if that were the case, they should have clearly disclosed that before asking for money. It's one thing to say "this hasn't been done before, we don't know how, so bear with us while we figure it out" and totally another to say "ThIs Is GoNnA bE gReAt!!!" when you don't know your right foot from your left on the project
So they did less than 5 minute's worth of work and called it '2 weeks' worth of work?
Maybe they invested the time but have no clue what they are doing.. Yea i dont believe that either
It’s so embarrassing for them. You literally fixed what they tried to do in a couple minutes. What a savage😂 You gained a sub just for that man.
keep it up callum I love that you know more about game design than these two clowns.... its embarrassing how easy it was to setup a properly working door
i have zero experience with the stuff you did at the end, but damn you made it look easy in such a short amount of time
I just want to mention again: A guy created a diablo clone in one week!
And now look at the "great dreamworld team" again and see what the "did" after two weeks....
That's not very interesting as tons of people have been caught buying pc games and then going into the pictures and changing them to something else and calling it a new game. If they did a 24 hour livestreams of them coding from scratch I eould.eatch that.
Don't fool for those I made this AAA game in 1 week videos.
@@DavidBarlowDavido01 Doesn't matter if it's one week or one year its still better than everything these guys from dreamworld created ^^
@@azinyefantasy4445 I know and maybe that is the case but like I said before: it doesn't matter because it works at least. Even if all is copy-paste and just here and there a change it's more work than what dreamworld took to make it.
Hey, I really appreciate you showing off making the door and sidewalk like that. People like me can look at what Dreamworld is showing off and think "um, that SEEMS really strange to need to spend so much time on..." But it's breakdowns like this that really help put things into perspective and spread knowledge. I think part of the reason these types of devs can con so many people is the amount of us who really have little to no understanding of what it takes to make the final product.
Anyway can't wait to see you fully recreate the Kingdoms of Elyria alpha in 10 minutes lol. Thanks for sharing this.
they are not lazzy.. they are scamming. A lazy person still know how to do whatever they are not doing. A scammer pretend to know how to do something he does not know.
I lost my shit at the intro, best laugh I’ve had in a while
Haha That intro was golden 😆 Sums it all up.
Thanks for the breakdown of all this! I wasnt aware of this latest "early access" asset flip scam, and the programmer/designer knowledge is very cool. Big sub from me my man, wish I could like this more than once lol
They're def using your video as a tutorial for the next patch :')
"previous updates will no longer work"
Given the state of the project, future releases won't ever work either.
Given a couple weeks, with only the free assets Epic has given away and things that are just free utilities...even a beginner ue4 user could make something better than this with zero coding and only a basic understanding of the blueprints ststem.
I've only been playing around in unreal for a couple months and I understand more about it than these geniuses did in like, a year, they're con artists and not even good ones
The intro is hilarious. Instant sub
The lack of effort put into the game is extremely odd, even for a scam. It's almost as if they have no interest whatsoever in gaming or game development, and can't even be bothered to follow a couple UA-cam tutorials.
I'm not even a game developer, nor ever plan to be, yet I still watch tutorials because I have a general interest in gaming.
Imo they never planned to release a full game. Hence the loophole about not having to deliver a full game, just an alpha to backers. Now the medie attention got so big, they have to deliver cause their faces are all over the internet, no chance to just slink away with the money.
But maybe that's all just suspicion. Maybe they ARE that stupid. Who knows 🤷
The moment you started goin' in on their implementation of a door, I subbed haha :D
Wow, their BUYING assets now instead of just using free ones? Huh...an improvement??? Nahh...
As someone loves working in the Unreal Engine. Specifically, implementing my own art assets, this entire shitshow this hurts my soul. This really is not hard to do. You just have to know what your doing.
If the entire team is doing 80 hours a week, that's a major red flag. Within a couple of weeks everyone will be burned out and they'll have no developers left.
They will update the game tonight with these fixes thanks to your free tutorial 😂
On one hand I understand that a week's progress can sometimes (or even often) not amount to not a lot to show, like I don't think anybody would be hyped up hearing "oh yeah guys, we just refactored our audio library integration". But that's the kinda stuff you really ought to know after _all those years of experience as a programmer_ so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Like, I remember Notch doing his "seecret friday updates", but I still think that's far from what you should realistically aiming for; after all, even those faded out once the feature list got too complex. If this was a genuine project (and that's a big fucking "if") I'd be happier with monthly updates and knowing that in the mean time they get shit done. Y'know, kinda like the actually good early access games do it.
They should hire Callum
I know it's like gawping at a car crash but I can't help myself.
I know they're a meme, but "axes" is actually the correct pluralisation of "axis", you just read it wrong :P "Ack-sees"
yeah i meant to swap that with a different clip as that was my first time reading it and i missread what they meant
@@CallumUpton 😂 I could hear you were unsure about it haha
Our man callum is getting better at editing and Better Bringing a news too!
*SteamVR fix* I can't imagine playing that game with a VR headset with such low FPS.
As a first time watcher of your channel, just got a sub bro. this was REALLY GREAT CONTENT
you may have literally spent more time developing dreamworld than they have
theyre gonna use his door blueprint now after watching this
Something tells me they're going to steal this door code, now that they can see how and present it in patch 4, lol
Another great video mate, keep them coming!!
As a layman what I gather from this is
Unreal tools are weirdly easy to use
These devs are less competent than I was learning to use adobe audio my summer at a radio station. Yikes.
8:45
DreamWorld "Team": "Write that down, write that down"
At this point, it feels like 2 kids who're "playing game development". And they are obviously not very good in this game lol.
Nothing wrong with just playing around… until you’re charging people retail prices for the privilege.
I feel like the people behind this game wanted to actually make a good game but just failed
I don't know how to use Unreal Engine. But just by watching how simple you made it look, with making a proper door was very entertaining.
The true DreamWorld were the friends we made along the way.
I've made more playable games from the Unreal Editor back when I was 16 years old, 10 years ago.
I'm calling it now, next week we will have working doors as they franticly copy what you coded in this video.