skins is one of the shows i liked the most.. the feelings it gives you are so raw, so violent.. shows you a whole new perspective. sure, 3rd generation isn’t that great, but effy’s arc through seasons 01 to 04 and 07 is just amazing.. is one of the few shows that doesn’t have that bullshit, cliche, happy ending..
@@tyreselynch6184 i really like altered carbon's first season, nowadays i'm deep into cyberpunk and futurism but back then, before skins i was obsessed with gossip girl!
also because they were so boring i dont think anyone would stand to watch 2 hours of a charcter from gen 3 a year after the season ended that no one really connected or loved
@@courtneylou9901 Exactly I watched all of gen 3 as well and I don't remember almost anything that happaned in those 2 seasons. I know one of them was in a comma and her boyfirend like hallucinated she had woken up and he basically raped her and they brushed it off like it was nothing. But like if you ask me the reason it was so boring besides no longer being relatistic and just over the top is becuse they tried to recreate the most iconic charaters and they failed becuse that is not what anyone wanted.
Actually I think the reason why there were no gen 3 characters in season 7, is because when effy, cassie and cook were already adults, the gen 3 characters just finished school, so they wouldn’t make an episode about someone from gen 3 when they just got out of school and nothing more happened, I’m not sure, but it’s what I think
the first season was so real, relatable(ish) and so easy to bond with and i feel like they had so much potential for a season 3 where it shows where they are now as we have bonded with these characters and its hard to not like them after the first two seasons
Gen 2 was good but the ending was terrible in my opinion, the show dealt with things mostly in a very real way, but sum crazy psychiatrist taking control of effy was already rlly weird but then he gets mad at Freddie cus Freddie doesn't trust him so he kills Freddie with a bat, and u only find that out at the end and all u get is Cook getting revenge, wen Chris died in season 2 it was fore shadowed for a while and it made sense cus his brother died of the same illness and it was sad but it was built up to in a great way, they tried to make it dramatic with one of them dying, literally killing of one of the nicest most caring person in the show, I'd rather if they kept him alive, it wouldn't ruin the show
Freddie's death is foreshadowed too, it's in the scene they're reading the book in English and Naomi explains the plot line. It's on UA-cam, rewatch that scene and all of series 3&4 falls into place
Benedict Hart ye but wen Chris was in hospital and they mentioned his brother having died of that disease I was like oh yea that totally makes sense I remember that but wen Freddie was killed I just thought wait wat they’re just gunna end it
I enjoyed every generation. I can see where the criticism for gen 3 comes from and I agree with most of it. The thing I enjoyed most of gen 3 was the relationship between Rich and Grace. I think that was the purest and most non-toxic relationship of all of skins. I reccomend watching seasons 5 and 6 just for those two.
Completely honest, i enjoyed generation 3 the most after gen 1, 2 was good you seriously can’t compare them they’re all amazing it but 3 really kept being entertaining
I tried watching Skins series 5 but I just didn't enjoy the characters the same way i did for gens 1 and gens 2. When I seen seires 7, I thought that because one of the episodes was focused on Effy and the other was focused on Cassie that the third episode would be focused on someone from gens 3 but I was happy to find out that it was about Cook. I think the reason gens 1 and 2 worked was because of the Tony and Effy connection. Now I haven't seen Gens 3 but I think the only connection they have is the school. It's a shame as would've loved to of seen more of some gens 1 and 2. Especially in Cassie's story.
And the season 3 & 4 where good, more on the depressive side but I wanted to see is Effy found out about freddie’s death and cook like did he said goodbye or idk
I know right the ending was so abrupt to me i just finished watching season 4 and i have grown so attached to these characters that it is going to be hard to move on
Generation 1 was my favorite by far. The chemistry between the actors, the storylines, the characters, the music... when the creators wanted to, Jamie and Bryan were really good at making characters that were exaggerated and out there enough to be entertaining but viscerally emotional enough to be very real and easy to care about at the same time and generation one was a great example of just that. I think I was enamored with the first group in a way that I had never been enamored with a group of fictional teenagers before so when Chris died I was devastated and when the gang left I was devastated twice over. But at the end, I was content with their sendoff albeit saddened by their departure. I didn’t see it as a happy ending or a sad ending. Just.... life. The end of their ‘era’ if you will. Generation 2 was meh. It had its good moments but quite a lot of it was kind of ridiculous to watch. I think 2nd gen had the most viewers during its run which surprised me. I remember being shocked by how much of a fan favorite Cook was in middle school because I couldn’t stand him and I thought Effy’s character arc was really underwhelming and.... bland? Her characterization didn’t go the way that I thought it would, to keep it frank. And when she started losing it, it was very sobering to see how Effy’s breakdown wasn’t taken that seriously at all. It seemed as if other people watching almost immediately started romanticizing it. As gen2 went on, I really felt like Effy got to be more of an object of desire rather than someone people saw as a human being. A girl that other girls aspired to be like and emulate and a girl that boys wanted to be with. And both the audience and characters on the show projected their insecurities onto her a lot. In gen 1 I saw her as a very interesting character that I wanted to know everything about whereas when she actually became the lead protagonist I slowly lost interest in her and often pitied her. (Unpopular opinions, I know.) And that love triangle was almost a chore to watch the entirety of generation 2. By the end of season 3, I was way more into Naomi + Emily than both Freddie/Effy and Cook/Effy because their chemistry was so nicely built and progressed slowly enough to not seem rushed but also fast enough to make you want to see more of them on-screen. And then they fucked Naomily up for most of season 4 (and then permanently in season 7.... which I like to pretend never aired). I think one of the main reasons I liked the first generation the most was because it was the only generation where I was actually convinced that the group were all good friends? So it was easy for me to get comfortable with them because they had already seemed so comfortable with eachother. Not only that, but since the group’s foundation was already set, when their episode rolls around you truly got the sense that you were learning who they were as individuals apart from their respective roles within the friend group. For the first episode of generation two, it was ‘the three musketeers’ Freddie, Cook, and JJ, the twins + Naomi, and then Effy and Panda (then Thomas just kinda... shows up) and then over the series, we watch the writers try to put them together until they slowly become a friend group. But this time around, instead of focusing on getting to know them as individuals, the writers spent a lot of time writing social gatherings and party scenes and creating scenarios under which the gang is forced to interact and get to know eachother. And for a bit it almost seemed as if the characters slowly got to be defined by their misdeeds and interactions with the others rather than being able to have a full sense of self. For example: Who was Freddie besides an indecisive boy that loved Effy and weed? I didn’t like Cook but at least I felt like I got to know quite a bit of who he was as a person even though he was pretty stagnant in terms of growing from his past wrongdoings. And I adored Naomi and Emily but I still got a taste of who they were outside of their relationship. I don’t feel like I *ever* really got a sense of who Freddie was so I felt bad when I didn’t feel anything when he died although his death was very shocking (you know why). Not to mention the friendship units apart from the group weren’t even that convincing. I can count genuinely sweet ‘three musketeers’ moments on one hand and one of those moments is from a Skins Unseen/Short and not even an episode. We had to wait until season 4 to see Cook being a genuinely good friend to Freddie and even then it seemed too little, too late. Not to mention the fact that JJ hardly even interacted with Cook and Freddie in season 4. JJ was around them a lot in season 3 but it seemed more like he was around out of habit rather than because the boys actually wanted him around. ‘The Three Musketeers’ would’ve been better off being called Tom and Jerry because Cook and Freddie spent more screentime fighting than getting along and JJ was hardly ever truly appreciated by either of them or even the writers considering he hardly got any screentime outside of his own episodes. Panda and Effy had less and less interactions as the gen went on which surprised me because I thought they’d grow to be as close as Tony and Sid. Perhaps my expectations were really high for 2nd generation but I just wasn’t as into them as I was into the first lot. I won’t even go into gen 3. I do think I deserve an award for being able to push through every episode, though, when I finished it. Because it definitely took a lot of hard work and perserverance. Almost as if I was watching a parody of Skins instead of Skins itself. I tried to watch the US version and I was even fairly hopeful about its release because Bryan Elsley was involved but, alas.... the creators couldn’t even recreate something so brilliant. All in all, this was the only teen drama I was able to really get into as a teen. It was definitely a refreshing take on teen dramas as this show acted as an anti-thesis to a lot of American teen dramas that were airing on TV at the time - Gossip Girl, The O.C., 90210, Glee, that god awful Degrassi...none of them appealed to me like this one did.
I totally agree with everything you said! I thought I was going crazy trying to explain to others my thoughts on this show and having them disagree with everything. I do, however like the second generation better. Not in terms of events, or plot, but in terms of friendship. The teens in the first generation were such bad friends, the boys were sexist and Jal was always the one to snap some sense into the others when they did something bad, though she got nothing in return. They only seemed to truly come together when Chris passed away. Also, everything was unsanitary, they kept throwing up on each other and everyone’s room was really dirty except Tony’s and Jal’s. The chemistry was real tho, like you said. I found myself crying with the first generation cause I was really rooting for the characters, the second generation not so much. It did bother me when Effy tried to take her life by the end of that one episode and the writers just skipped that and moved on to JJ’s episode..What? Like what happened? They didn’t let us know if she was safe, and didn’t say anything about her for the whole episode, as if it never happened. They only mentioned her again after JJ’s episode.They did this many times over the season, at least in the first generation, when it was a certain character’s episode, they still picked up on where they left off in the previous one and showed the character interacting with the rest, they didn’t focus on one person and their background. Also hated the fact that only Effy’s mom visited her in the hospital. What about her dad? I get that they’re divorced, but wouldn’t he be concerned if his daughter tried to kill herself. And what about her brother?? He could’ve taken a break from college to check on her knowing they’re so close to each other. And these two really cared about Effy, I’d believe it if her mom wasn’t the one to visit cause she ignored her most of the time. Cook surprised me to say the least. I thought he’d be a lost cause since his parents were never around and he practically lived by himself. So he was never taught what was right and what was wrong, but he eventually got some sense into him when he lived with his mom shortly, though it was wayyyy too late. He still made it. I feel like if his friends confronted him more whenever he did something bad, he would’ve turned out to be a great person. But for some reason, they both seemed scared of him. Although, he was the only person putting the most effort in their friendship. Like when he got mad at Freddie when he didn’t do anything about his feelings for Effy, he just wanted him to say he loved her out loud, but he was too much of a pussy. Or when he kept checking on JJ when he started having his episodes again. The obsession with Effy is just..too much. I don’t understand why everyone loves her. If this was in a real life setting and she persistently broke someone’s heart, they’d just learn from it and move on. No one would keep themselves around someone who does nothing but hurt them. They may have been charmed with her mysterious personality, but even when both Freddie and Cook dated her. They never got a clear image of who she was as a person, I don’t think anyone would date someone who would never open up about their feelings and just exist mysteriously. And I hated Freddie, he said he had a crush on her but never did anything to win her until she came to him when she got jealous of his relationship with Katie. I don’t think he deserves that. It’s very selfish of her. Also, I remember Effy and her mother requesting a different therapist before Freddie died. But by the last episode, we see the same old one checking on her in the facility saying he needs to leave town, and she said she wouldn’t know what to do without him.. So how come they didn’t stick to that either and didn’t offer any explanation as to why she changed her mind about the therapist?
I totally agree! It blows my mind that Cook or gen 2 in general is a fan favorite. While it wasn't as bad as gen 3, it lost a lot of what made gen 1 work so well.
God I can’t tell you how much I agree with every single thing you’ve said!!! Generation one was the best by far and the other two were just disappointing and I felt detached from most of the characters watching generation 2 and 3 x
You’re right in the money on everything. Like Gen 1 is so rewatchable and never gets old to me. Gen 2 is fine cuz of some character (I’m part of those who loved Cook cuz I related to that anger that angst and craziness in my teen and I also related to the absence of Freddie his way of almost not being there and being undecisive) I fucking loved JJ cuz he was weird and grew with it not out of it embracing his weirdness. I still liked Effy and all but her arc is just unbearable to watch. Naomi and Emily relationship was just perfect until they fucked it up but hey they did the same with fucking Cassie running out to FUCKING AMAERICA!!! No I’m not upset haha Overall I loved these two generations tbh but the first is just fully superior. We ain’t talking about gen 3 but I have to say I just love Richie boy épisode but his all romance with Gracie is unrealistic in its stupidity like I can’t believe how stupid it is. Same for the all season really. Anyway loved your opinion ! I love the idea that Skins marked us all for the rest of our lives in diverse ways!
I honestly watched/watch skins for comfort because it's in many aspects (mainly season1) very relatable for me and makes me feel less alone, honestly sad it didn't turn out all that great because it definitely had more potential
I loved Gen 3. It was my favorite generation where Gen 2 - I felt Effy was a huge romanticization and so was Cassie. I loved skins a lot to the point where I actually wanted to write a series inspired by it.
@@KaiiyV2 thats really mean even let people be creative, even shit art is meaningful. im not saying that their story is automatically shit but yeah don't be mean
I’m probably the only one who enjoyed every single generation and has no problem wit. Any of it except season 7. Even the US version I enjoyed and saw so much potential for a season 2 to get better.
Honestly when i watch season 7 i didn't like it at all and it stop watching it at like the 3 episode but i decided what the heck why not finish it and tbh im glad i finished...it was different but it was a good different
I felt like there was no proper closure at the end of the second generation. It moves onto the third generation and I’m still invested in the last one wanting to know what happened. In fact WTF
Exactly although I kinda felt the same way with gen 1 when I watched it I only really liked cassie and sid, I actually didn't like Chris that much at first (but he became my fav). It was my favorite thing about skins is how they make you like characters you think you won't and that's why gen 3 was a let down for me cus I didn't end up liking them
I thought series 1 was really great. Expect for episodes 1 and 6. I know in ep 1 they were still struggling to establish the tone and developing the characters in limited time. In one bit they get invited to a girls house party so Chris steals aload of their phones and then Tony punches someone in the head, they then steal a car and drive it into a river (what a nice group), plus there's no consequences for doing that for them for any of those actions. Episode 2 though is a real improvement because it focuses in more on a few key characters. Series 3 takes longer to get going but does get good between episodes 5-8, as the conflict reaches its climax. Generally though like all good TV actions do have consequences, Sid's unintentional actions lead Cassie to attempt suicide. Tony's actions mean him losing his friends. Chris and his wild parties and drug use makes him homeless.
Season 6 has some beautiful, introspective moments that people miss because they're too busy missing "the old cast" or "how it used to be." Newsflash, but shows change and evolve. And the writing in S6 was incredible at some points. Sure, gen 3 struggles a bit during S5, but if you get through that you'll be rewarded.
Exactly! I hate when people don't watch for prejudice and cause they liked and miss effy,cooj,naomi etc. Sincerely I liked gen 3 way more then gen 2. It has a better ending and to me it has the best characters along with Chris/Cassie.. Like Rich, Grace, Mini and Alo. And also it has the best couples :Rich and Grace and Mini and Alo!!
I watched first generation (s01&s02) and ended the show. I still keep thinking about the characters, they won my heart. Didn't go any further generation because i don't wanna ruin.
The main story of season 1 was pretty simple, a love triangle thing. Sid and Tony both love Michelle, though Tony doesn't act like it. Cassie loves Sid but it's unrequited, Sid doesn't seem to realise. At the end Sid loves Cassie leaving Tony and Michelle to be together. All the controversial issues and teen shenanigans were there in the background to spice things up and add some colour, humour and edge to the show. Its one reason season 1 was so good. Season 2 though pretty much does the whole Sid Michelle Cassie story line again even though it was settled last season. Plus the characters aren't as sweet and likeable this time round. Everyone is just glum and angry in season 2. Plus all the boys cheat on their girlfriends because they become idiots suddenly, like Chris and Sid. Add to this the new characters like Michelle's step sister and Sketch who were both unnecessary and bad additions, neither are relatable or normal. Season 3 goes back to the simple love triangle concept again. Effy must choose between Cook and Freddie. JJ likes her too but its made clear he's got no chance. Pandora is also sleeping with Cook but there's no love story there, that little addition just felt strange. The fact the triangle is not properly resolved is annoying though as that's what it was building to. They obviously wanted to make you watch season 4 to find out. It becomes more complex too when when Freddie starts a separate love triangle with Katie and Effy. Fast forward to season 4 and now Cook still loves Effy but she only loves Freddie so that triangle is shut down, season 4 is partly about Cook coming to terms with that, and how he deals with that pain and anger. Again though in season 4 everything is glum and grim. Only Katie becomes a more likeable 3D character. But Emily spends the whole season crying, Naomi feeling guilty, Thomas and Pandora look fed up the whole season. Its like the writers couldn't think of a good way to build conflict in a relationship expect just have them randomly cheat on each other. The writers clearly had no idea what to do with JJ this season either. His development was finished after season 3, learning to be happier and to stop worrying about being normal. You could take him out of season 4 and it wouldn't make any difference overall. The only good exception to the relationship writing was Freddie and Effy who have serious drama, not because of cheating or lack of love, but because of Effy's mental health problems. That could have been an okay storyline without the silly Dr Evil character ruining it.
i have to say it Spoilers ish FRANKY IS SO IRRITATING Please tell my if you strongly dislike her so i can agreee with you in the comments and name my reasons
I really liked freddie he really didint do anything bad he even helped jj grow out of saying yes to cook but when he died it was out of nowhere and no one talked about it and i really cried abt it idk why but i started gen 3 and honestly im thinking of not watching it and moving on to 7 idk its too boring
I really wanted to grow with the characters you know have a good ending because just as I got to know the characters they changed them and in season 7 i didn’t feel they actually closed it well like only cook I think but I never knew if Naomi died or if effy did go to jail and if cassie did find sid or if adam came back
I think Cassie found Sid cause when her roommate asked her what she did before moving to the building she said she was in America with a boy but Cassie didn’t say the name of the boy so I COULD be Sid.
Gen 1 was my favourite of the 3, but Gen 2 had my favourite character in Cook, and Gen 3 had some great things, like the first real healthy relationship.
Some of the stuff which they wrote towards the end was so far fetched and outlandish that it gives you a renewed appreciation for series 1. They managed to base it all around pretty plausible college stuff, coursework, a few house parties, fancying your teacher, just hanging out, trying to buy cannabis but not knowing how, taking part in a music competition. Against this backdrop they also wrote a really sweet love story and developed some of the characters too like Tony and Michelle.
Effy's character was just bs from season 3 on. She was a cool mysterious ingredient in season 1/2 but from then on she was just pure cliche and unrealistic plot lines
Season one and two is pretty relatable. I’m from Bristol in my early 30s. Trust me there is that much rugs in Bristol. Massive drum and bass raves all the time then. I knew at least 2 of the actors.
I can’t be the only one that thinks that on season 7 they should have focused on another person than cook. I would of liked to someone like anwar or maxxie.
i think doing cook made sense cause season 4 was left on such a cliffhanger. while gen 1 had a good ending gen 2's was just too ambiguous i wanted to know if cook was alive or dead
Gen 3 was the worst as most of the characters weren’t relatable & were kinda boring but other than that skins was an amazing show & the best of Teen shows
skins is one of my favorite series, but i feel like the 3rd generation was missing something...like, there was no friendship that wasn't toxic at least a little bit. and it was WAYY more drama than generations 1 and 2.
Most people like season 1,2,3,4,7 and dislike season 5 and 6. I love season 1 to 6 (all generations) and I'm so disappointed about season 7. Season 7 could have make it a cult series but it's for me a random completely separated story without an outcome.
You must live in the matrix, ppl who didnt do drugs growing up will never realize how many people are doing drugs and living like this (season 3-4) hits me like a brick every time, like family, friends kids in ur class, I hate people who start there videos with, even tho its un realistic, people definitely did all of this and worse, like in a town with no real “gang set” just a bunch of thugs with no real direction this is exactly it, why do u think juice wrld is so popular cause this is real
Season 1: Perfect character building, real, deep and meaningful. Season 2: Watched when I was in late school/early college. Could relate to the situations, not so much the drug and alcohol abuse, but still great to get on with! Seaosn 3: SHITE.. Couldn't even relate to the metalhead who I was excited to see on screen, but he wasn't metal! Latest spin off seasons: Cooks spinoff was quality!
I know personally too and have heard lots of others talk about the effect characters have on an audience. When you're a kid you might watch a cowboy film or a superhero film and want to dress up and pretend to be that character afterwards. Teenagers though still get influenced too by TV and films which I think is why it was important to show in Series 1 that the cool popular leader Tony who you might think in ep 1 and 2 is the one we're meant to aspire to be, well, that's not actually the case. He's introduced as the handsome, well dressed, intelligent guy who has the beautiful girlfriend, the loyalty of his best mate/loser friend Sid, everyone seems to worship him. But through the series we see how he uses his charm and good looks to bully and manipulate people. He's selfish, egotistical and cruel. His actions lead to him eventually losing his popularity and he's forced to confront the results his bad actions have had on other people. He then starts to change as a character into a more mature, caring and reflective person. It's the same kind of character arc which Jamie gets in Game of Thrones, Steve in Stranger Things and Hank in Breaking Bad. Sid, while becoming more confident in season 1 is still basically remains the good well intentioned boy he was in S1E1, in the end it looks like he's rewarded by getting the girl. S3 though is more complex. Effy seems to be the main female character. I know she had a bit of an influence on girls at the time though but her character is not necessarily a very healthy one that people should want to copy. She seems so wild, apathetic and distant from people. Right from series 1 where we see her at 14 partying all night, playing with fire on a bus, not communicating and engaging in risky behaviour without caring about the wellbeing of herself or others. This should really be setting alarm bells ringing if this was your sister or daughter. As you get older though you learn it's best not to try and act like a fictional character, just be yourself. A fictional character is always going to be impossible to emulate.
But Shameless is just your preference. Skins is more relatable in the sense that once everyone grows up, they also tend to grow apart. That is why the generations changed every 2 seasons because it wouldve been just unrealistic for them all to still be around each other especially when u consider that at the end of gen 2 Thomas and Pandora went to America, Freddie died, they all finished school and not only was Cook expelled but he was also on the run from the police. Skins is skins. Shameless is shameless and for the recored I actually liked the 3rd gen because I could relate to a character like Nick in so many ways.
Skins made a big impact when it came out, it felt timely and spoke to a young audience. It wasn't a Kevin and Perry take on teenagers. It's not making fun of them. If anything it's the adults in the show who mostly are there for the comedy and to show how dysfunctional families are. There was nothing like Netflix back then so everyone was talking about it because there wasn't much else out there. Season 2 and 4 were too gloomy and far fetched for me, much less sense of fun. Seasons 1 and 3 did a better job at balancing the fun with the more serious issues and knew how to hint at subtler emotions and problems without hitting the audience over the head with heavy handed dialogue. The writers mostly couldn't think of good ways to develop conflict inside a relationship expect by just randomly have them cheat on each other. Thomas cheats on Pandora in S4Ep1 and in S4E2 it's revealed Naomi cheated on Emily, so they just spend the rest of the season doing the whole will they/won't they get back together. The whole Sid/Michelle/Tony love triangle was pulled out again in S2 even though it was dealt with perfectly and resolved in S1. Michelle also sort of regresses as a character in S2 and her actions seem messy and not true to her character. I think the show also put too much weight on it's leading love triangles and there were some characters who felt a bit like like secondary characters. For instance the season 1 finale is all about Sid/Tony/Michelle and Cassie sorting things out between them really. I can't even think of what Jal was doing in that one. With Season 3 again they made Cook/Freddie and Effy do much of the heavy lifting in terms of the plot and the writers maybe underestimated the popularity among fans of the Emily/Naomi love story. It was pretty big at the time to have this big lesbian love story on tv and everyone was routing for them which is partly why S4 felt annoying when they suddenly have Naomi cheat on Emily. In S4 though the writers maybe understood the fans wanted more screen time for characters like Emily, Pandora and Thomas. It was kind of disrespectful the way they weren't even in the finale of S3. What happened then was Effy and Freddie get pushed out a bit from S4, I don't think Effy even shows up for 3 episodes. So by the time you get to Freddie's episode in the middle you as a viewer actually want to see them again because it takes some weight off the other story lines which weren't really going anywhere. The best thing about S4 was Katie's character becoming a more fleshed out 3 dimensional person. Overall though as well as tackling the big issues and seeing the cute relationship dramas work themselves out all good shows need good character development. S1 had this for both Tony and Sid, it sort of drops off though in S2. Tony by the end of S2 is basically the same person as he was at the end of S1, so is Sid. I stopped watching after S4. I liked the way the show was filmed too. Maybe because it was low budget they filmed a lot of it in real suburban homes in Bristol. It helped give it a sense of realism that way. Like this could be you and your friends. I liked the dinner scenes with the parents and teens because they were funny but also kind of normal and relatable. Overall though it was a pretty unrealistic take on teen life. Where was all the studying, the part time work, the driving lessons, the trips out with your family? Of course after a year of non-stop partying they all get pretty much get great results.
Another weird thing I didn't get about the finale of S3 as well as the weird setting, gloomy weather, etc was the way Effy just disappears for weeks. She's still a minor at the time. Has she stopped going to School since Ep8? Aren't Social Services involved? Doesn't her mother mind? It just doesn't quite make sense to me and they never really explain it.
First 3 series - Fantastic. Series 4 - too dark, very melodramatic and silly. Series 5 - weaker characters, relationship dynamics didn’t make sense. Series 6 - even worse, early pointless character death, more random relationships that contradict previous ones A Meas
To me season one generations is the best because they where friends before the plot needed them to, there was a smoother transistion to gen 2 because of effy and the friends seem like they chould be real, but in season 5 they just seem to be friends just to be friends and the plot, their interactions seem so forced.
The 1st and 2nd generation were great imo. The 1st generation was the complete package, just great. I found the end of the second generation with the mental psychiatrist a bit bizarre and rather off-putting, there were much better (more realistic) ways to kill off a character. I would also have liked to see more of Panda's development, and I didn't find Freddie's character relatable, I didn't feel he developed. The 3rd generation was okay. There were some repetitions and some characters didn't really show enough development either, like Liv, Alex, Matt, Rich (after Grace's death) weren't really relatable anymore. Several plots did not make much sense and everything went back to drug abuse. I really can't think of a memorable moment in the 3rd gene 🤷, whereas the first two generations had many unforgettable bits.
Gen 1 was great and had a realistic vibe, and the ending was satisfying. I was sad that in season 3 there will be nobody from gen 1 except Panda and Effy, but after watching few episodes, gen 2 became my favourite. The problems of gen 2 pepole were less realistic and harder to relate to, but it was just so great. Seeing everyone of them change and grow at some point, their troubles, their moments of happiness was just something else. But then, the ending. ;-; that was the worst way possible to end this series!!! Omg, they’ve destroyed such amazing plot, Freddie’s death was like a hit with a brick to the head, and then the emptyness after the final scene… I was so frustrated with that, so I didn’t watch gen 3, I felt that it won’t be any good like the rest. Season 7 was a totally different thing, it was good. It showed that adult life can be so dissapointing (Effy’s episodes) and dully (Cassie’s episodes), can be hard to change it for better and escape demons from the past (Freddie’s episodes). The show makes you bond with characters soooooo much if you’re young person, but it just cuts off the connection you have with them at some point
A bit like the Simpsons, the earlier seasons revelled in some of the fun antics the group would get up to, house parties, drugs, winding their parents up. This was fine for a bit but they couldn't just do another season with the same stuff, it no longer shocks, delights or entertains. They felt they had to keep oneuping themselves each time. This was fine for a while till it started to get really far fetched. Opening scene of season 1 boy wakes up, works out, walks to school, phones his friends. Season 2, big dance number. Season 3, boy skateboards down Park Street Season 4 person leaps to their death in a nightclub. Season 5 girl is chased to college by a gang of bigoted schoolboys, she jumps on a mobility scouter and crashes into the School.... Each one gets bigger and therefore more fantastical and ungrounded.
Pretty sure I'll go to my grave still grumbling about how dirty they did my boy Freddie lol Edit: Love seeing fellow Freddie fans in the comments grumbling with me nice.
I loved all generations, seasons 1 to 6. Season 7 was shit and disappointing for me. It's like a total different story, it's not good for skins fans who have been following the series from the very first episode. Not an outcome at all.
Totally agree with you, the 3rd gen of teens just didn't hit quite right for me, they seemed so flat and boring compared to the first two generations, just couldnt relate to them or feel anything for them
Just finished watching season 4 Honestly I found gen 2 super interesting in season 3. I liked them so much better than gen 1. But then season 4 was so boring
@@DebbieSanna lol I was about 20 or 21 then in 2007 but I still remember Madison twatter (series 1) and hearing characters speaking the same god awful Bristol accent as me sounding like farmers / pirates lol
Great video, I’m really late to the party with Skins, completely passed it when it was first on TV but catching it now through Netflix. Season 1 and 2 were superb, the writing of season 1 especially is so relatable and profound so many of the episodes are embedded on my brain; just moved to season 3 and it honestly put me to sleep, the shift in approach to characterisation and overall development is one I’m having trouble with. Will try to make it through 3 and 4 but really interested in the final season for revisiting characters especially from the 1st gen
Ottima analisi. Skins è sempre stata una delle mie serie preferite, ormai da 10 anni circa, ma questo vale solo per la prima generazione che avrò visto mille volte... non condivido il giudizio secondo il quale sarebbe irrealistica ed esagerata, a tratti, perché in quel contesto sociale ci sta che sia così, penso che sia una rappresentazione credibile. Il giudizio è giusto, invece, a partire dalla seconda generazione, a mio modo di vedere, che è veramente eccessiva e a tratti senza senso. La terza è semplicemente inguardabile. Comunque sia, le prime due stagioni sono un capolavoro per quanto riguarda questo genere... mi fa piacere che ci sia ancora qualcuno che ne parli e la apprezzi
Anche Nicholas Hoult in un'intervista condivideva il tuo parere sull'esagerazione che però rimane nei limiti del realismo. Purtroppo "Skins" era qualcosa di unico ed innovativo ed è veramente un peccato che sia caduto in basso così velocemente
Sono d'accordo, potenzialmente poteva essere una serie rivoluzionaria nel mondo delle televisione... e invece si è sprecata sul più bello. Davvero un peccato. Sicuramente è riuscita ad essere innovativa.
I loved the 3rd generation a bit more by now and think series 6 is of one of the best series of the show coz it was real. U lose a friend and it showed everyone’s reaction and how to deal with it. Other subplots were great too .
It was always going to fail eventually, since its the same set up for every generation.. Like Season 5 imo starts off pretty good, then it felt like they wanted to really push what they've been doing with a super early character death with is felt through all of season 6. I think Euphoria S1 picks up from the legacy of Skins but in a far more dramatic way.. I remember Australia had its own version called "Slide" although it was far more realistic to what actually happens in your teens.. Sadly never got renewed for a season 2 since well.. no one watches Australian TV shows haha
I know everyone loves to shit on the 3 gen of skins and in my opinion it is the weakest one mostly cuz of series five but I found series six to be amazing in showing the different ways the cast would have to deal with the loss of their lover/best friend. Sure we got a lil on that in series 2 but it kinda all ended at the funeral. In series six we got to see the long terms effects of grief, survivors guilt, and the various coping mechanisms that the characters used which skins never tackled b4 cuz the characters deaths were usually at the end.
i was a late comer to skins, i was aware of of it back in 07' but being 14 i didn't really get chance to watch it at the time, i found a boxset of seasons 1-3 recently and watched them during lockdown, loved the first gen seasons, cleverly written but also cynical and humourous, gen 2 was just frustrating as the kids never really learnt anything and there wasn't much payoff for most of what season 3 was trying to build, plus that episode where freddie's sister goes on that weird show was mega cringe, i get that it was a satire of decadent reality television but i just couldn't wait for that to end, which is a shame because i found karen attractive. i'm probably not going to bother carrying on because skins kept killing my favourite characters, first sid's dad, then chris, and in season 4 freddie gets killed.
The 1st generation was by far the best, great group of diverse characters with brilliant storylines. The 2nd generation, season 3 was 5 stars absolutely incredible but season 4 was where the cracks began to show and where the shows downfall began, I found that season pointlessly dark. The 2nd gen was almost too dependent on Cook. The 3rd generation was so unwatchable. I think I gave up after 3 episodes, the majority of my friends in school at that time also gave up on the show.
It Took me more than two months to finish the third generation which speaks for itself. The only interesting characters didnt get enough screen time and the plot and character developement was just awful
Yes Cassie is missing from some pictures but there’s the character Sketch included instead and the character Abigail too even though they weren’t main characters
@@hypeuprise7026 may be I will watch S03 and S04 in future but right now where ever I saw the ratings of the show only the first 2 get excel in everything
@@yashdotania yeah ok, but don't always go by the ratings. Riverdale has good ratings but it is without a doubt one of the worst written, acted, and even edited shows on the planet.
@@hypeuprise7026 my frnd told me exactly the same abt Riverdale I think people watched the show bcoz of cast thank btw. I also started the skins just for effy plus I watched the ratings too then I found out abt the rest of the cast Nicholas ,Joe ,Hannah,Daniel,Dev that makes me so excited & if I continue the show the soul reason would be Kaya .
in the pilot, and even in the second episode when Michelle’s stepdad says that she doesn’t eat anything and even Michelle calls her a “bitch that doesn’t eat anything”.
Killing Freddie off felt very unrealistic
That's what Mike Bailey said
Didn't like him anyway 😅
@@itzcolm8737 plot twist! The killer was you!!!
@@TheJonasMacedo i wish 😂
I watched that episode last night, and the blood splatter on the frosted glass looks so fake lol they could have made that look way better!
skins is one of the shows i liked the most.. the feelings it gives you are so raw, so violent.. shows you a whole new perspective. sure, 3rd generation isn’t that great, but effy’s arc through seasons 01 to 04 and 07 is just amazing.. is one of the few shows that doesn’t have that bullshit, cliche, happy ending..
Daniel Peralta couldnt have put it better
Same....what tour to favourite show then?
@@tyreselynch6184 i really like altered carbon's first season, nowadays i'm deep into cyberpunk and futurism but back then, before skins i was obsessed with gossip girl!
@@DanielPeraalta oh cool cool, futurisms huh so u must have watched some of the black mirror stuff?
@@DanielPeraalta altered carbons been cancelled by Netflix unfortunately, I really liked that show
I feel like gen 3 tried so hard to recreate the most iconic charaters from gen 1 and 2, which is why there were no gen 3 charaters in season 7.
also because they were so boring i dont think anyone would stand to watch 2 hours of a charcter from gen 3 a year after the season ended that no one really connected or loved
@@courtneylou9901 Exactly I watched all of gen 3 as well and I don't remember almost anything that happaned in those 2 seasons. I know one of them was in a comma and her boyfirend like hallucinated she had woken up and he basically raped her and they brushed it off like it was nothing. But like if you ask me the reason it was so boring besides no longer being relatistic and just over the top is becuse they tried to recreate the most iconic charaters and they failed becuse that is not what anyone wanted.
they tried to make franky like effy!
Actually I think the reason why there were no gen 3 characters in season 7, is because when effy, cassie and cook were already adults, the gen 3 characters just finished school, so they wouldn’t make an episode about someone from gen 3 when they just got out of school and nothing more happened, I’m not sure, but it’s what I think
Season 3 repeated the "Jal is pregnant and doesn't tell Chris" plot with Mini and Alo. But dragged it out to the point of being cringeworthy.
the first season was so real, relatable(ish) and so easy to bond with and i feel like they had so much potential for a season 3 where it shows where they are now as we have bonded with these characters and its hard to not like them after the first two seasons
Gen 2 was good but the ending was terrible in my opinion, the show dealt with things mostly in a very real way, but sum crazy psychiatrist taking control of effy was already rlly weird but then he gets mad at Freddie cus Freddie doesn't trust him so he kills Freddie with a bat, and u only find that out at the end and all u get is Cook getting revenge, wen Chris died in season 2 it was fore shadowed for a while and it made sense cus his brother died of the same illness and it was sad but it was built up to in a great way, they tried to make it dramatic with one of them dying, literally killing of one of the nicest most caring person in the show, I'd rather if they kept him alive, it wouldn't ruin the show
Freddie's death is foreshadowed too, it's in the scene they're reading the book in English and Naomi explains the plot line. It's on UA-cam, rewatch that scene and all of series 3&4 falls into place
Benedict Hart ye but wen Chris was in hospital and they mentioned his brother having died of that disease I was like oh yea that totally makes sense I remember that but wen Freddie was killed I just thought wait wat they’re just gunna end it
Couldn't agree more!!
Plus Dr Evil helpfully leaves the evidence of his murder all wrapped up in his house for anyone to drop in and look at....
Effys mental ilness was foreshadowed but agree about the crazy killer therapist 😜....
I enjoyed every generation. I can see where the criticism for gen 3 comes from and I agree with most of it. The thing I enjoyed most of gen 3 was the relationship between Rich and Grace. I think that was the purest and most non-toxic relationship of all of skins. I reccomend watching seasons 5 and 6 just for those two.
Tbh i think the entire show was good.... season 7 was kinda odd at first but once i push tru to watch it i thing it was a good way to wrap things up
Completely honest, i enjoyed generation 3 the most after gen 1, 2 was good you seriously can’t compare them they’re all amazing it but 3 really kept being entertaining
@@geeswithane7yrago303 exactly! Season 1 >3>2 for me! I love Mini and Alo!
@@tyreselynch6184 I just wished Effy found closure. It doesn’t sit right with me how she probably still thinks that Freddie ran away :(
@@MusicChanneI1738 Freddie’s remains would’ve been found.
I tried watching Skins series 5 but I just didn't enjoy the characters the same way i did for gens 1 and gens 2. When I seen seires 7, I thought that because one of the episodes was focused on Effy and the other was focused on Cassie that the third episode would be focused on someone from gens 3 but I was happy to find out that it was about Cook. I think the reason gens 1 and 2 worked was because of the Tony and Effy connection. Now I haven't seen Gens 3 but I think the only connection they have is the school. It's a shame as would've loved to of seen more of some gens 1 and 2. Especially in Cassie's story.
I definitely enjoyed the 2 first seasons, then i just hated it because the characters were changed and also it was too repetitive
Leyla LBBH the shiw was about addiction, addiction is repetitive
@@brianwilloughby298 the show wasn't about addiction in fact that wasn't even a major theme
Leyla LBBH i just watched the show becuz of Kaya Schodelario....... she is just amazing ... i can't describe her in words
YESS IM CRYINGG I WANT THE OLD CHARACTERS BACK
Ikrrr!!!
And the season 3 & 4 where good, more on the depressive side but I wanted to see is Effy found out about freddie’s death and cook like did he said goodbye or idk
I know right the ending was so abrupt to me i just finished watching season 4 and i have grown so attached to these characters that it is going to be hard to move on
Generation 1 was my favorite by far. The chemistry between the actors, the storylines, the characters, the music... when the creators wanted to, Jamie and Bryan were really good at making characters that were exaggerated and out there enough to be entertaining but viscerally emotional enough to be very real and easy to care about at the same time and generation one was a great example of just that. I think I was enamored with the first group in a way that I had never been enamored with a group of fictional teenagers before so when Chris died I was devastated and when the gang left I was devastated twice over. But at the end, I was content with their sendoff albeit saddened by their departure. I didn’t see it as a happy ending or a sad ending. Just.... life. The end of their ‘era’ if you will.
Generation 2 was meh. It had its good moments but quite a lot of it was kind of ridiculous to watch. I think 2nd gen had the most viewers during its run which surprised me. I remember being shocked by how much of a fan favorite Cook was in middle school because I couldn’t stand him and I thought Effy’s character arc was really underwhelming and.... bland? Her characterization didn’t go the way that I thought it would, to keep it frank. And when she started losing it, it was very sobering to see how Effy’s breakdown wasn’t taken that seriously at all. It seemed as if other people watching almost immediately started romanticizing it. As gen2 went on, I really felt like Effy got to be more of an object of desire rather than someone people saw as a human being. A girl that other girls aspired to be like and emulate and a girl that boys wanted to be with. And both the audience and characters on the show projected their insecurities onto her a lot. In gen 1 I saw her as a very interesting character that I wanted to know everything about whereas when she actually became the lead protagonist I slowly lost interest in her and often pitied her.
(Unpopular opinions, I know.)
And that love triangle was almost a chore to watch the entirety of generation 2. By the end of season 3, I was way more into Naomi + Emily than both Freddie/Effy and Cook/Effy because their chemistry was so nicely built and progressed slowly enough to not seem rushed but also fast enough to make you want to see more of them on-screen. And then they fucked Naomily up for most of season 4 (and then permanently in season 7.... which I like to pretend never aired).
I think one of the main reasons I liked the first generation the most was because it was the only generation where I was actually convinced that the group were all good friends? So it was easy for me to get comfortable with them because they had already seemed so comfortable with eachother. Not only that, but since the group’s foundation was already set, when their episode rolls around you truly got the sense that you were learning who they were as individuals apart from their respective roles within the friend group.
For the first episode of generation two, it was ‘the three musketeers’ Freddie, Cook, and JJ, the twins + Naomi, and then Effy and Panda (then Thomas just kinda... shows up) and then over the series, we watch the writers try to put them together until they slowly become a friend group. But this time around, instead of focusing on getting to know them as individuals, the writers spent a lot of time writing social gatherings and party scenes and creating scenarios under which the gang is forced to interact and get to know eachother. And for a bit it almost seemed as if the characters slowly got to be defined by their misdeeds and interactions with the others rather than being able to have a full sense of self.
For example: Who was Freddie besides an indecisive boy that loved Effy and weed? I didn’t like Cook but at least I felt like I got to know quite a bit of who he was as a person even though he was pretty stagnant in terms of growing from his past wrongdoings. And I adored Naomi and Emily but I still got a taste of who they were outside of their relationship. I don’t feel like I *ever* really got a sense of who Freddie was so I felt bad when I didn’t feel anything when he died although his death was very shocking (you know why). Not to mention the friendship units apart from the group weren’t even that convincing. I can count genuinely sweet ‘three musketeers’ moments on one hand and one of those moments is from a Skins Unseen/Short and not even an episode. We had to wait until season 4 to see Cook being a genuinely good friend to Freddie and even then it seemed too little, too late. Not to mention the fact that JJ hardly even interacted with Cook and Freddie in season 4. JJ was around them a lot in season 3 but it seemed more like he was around out of habit rather than because the boys actually wanted him around. ‘The Three Musketeers’ would’ve been better off being called Tom and Jerry because Cook and Freddie spent more screentime fighting than getting along and JJ was hardly ever truly appreciated by either of them or even the writers considering he hardly got any screentime outside of his own episodes. Panda and Effy had less and less interactions as the gen went on which surprised me because I thought they’d grow to be as close as Tony and Sid. Perhaps my expectations were really high for 2nd generation but I just wasn’t as into them as I was into the first lot.
I won’t even go into gen 3. I do think I deserve an award for being able to push through every episode, though, when I finished it. Because it definitely took a lot of hard work and perserverance. Almost as if I was watching a parody of Skins instead of Skins itself. I tried to watch the US version and I was even fairly hopeful about its release because Bryan Elsley was involved but, alas.... the creators couldn’t even recreate something so brilliant.
All in all, this was the only teen drama I was able to really get into as a teen. It was definitely a refreshing take on teen dramas as this show acted as an anti-thesis to a lot of American teen dramas that were airing on TV at the time - Gossip Girl, The O.C., 90210, Glee, that god awful Degrassi...none of them appealed to me like this one did.
I totally agree with everything you said! I thought I was going crazy trying to explain to others my thoughts on this show and having them disagree with everything.
I do, however like the second generation better. Not in terms of events, or plot, but in terms of friendship. The teens in the first generation were such bad friends, the boys were sexist and Jal was always the one to snap some sense into the others when they did something bad, though she got nothing in return. They only seemed to truly come together when Chris passed away. Also, everything was unsanitary, they kept throwing up on each other and everyone’s room was really dirty except Tony’s and Jal’s. The chemistry was real tho, like you said. I found myself crying with the first generation cause I was really rooting for the characters, the second generation not so much.
It did bother me when Effy tried to take her life by the end of that one episode and the writers just skipped that and moved on to JJ’s episode..What? Like what happened? They didn’t let us know if she was safe, and didn’t say anything about her for the whole episode, as if it never happened. They only mentioned her again after JJ’s episode.They did this many times over the season, at least in the first generation, when it was a certain character’s episode, they still picked up on where they left off in the previous one and showed the character interacting with the rest, they didn’t focus on one person and their background.
Also hated the fact that only Effy’s mom visited her in the hospital. What about her dad? I get that they’re divorced, but wouldn’t he be concerned if his daughter tried to kill herself. And what about her brother?? He could’ve taken a break from college to check on her knowing they’re so close to each other. And these two really cared about Effy, I’d believe it if her mom wasn’t the one to visit cause she ignored her most of the time.
Cook surprised me to say the least. I thought he’d be a lost cause since his parents were never around and he practically lived by himself. So he was never taught what was right and what was wrong, but he eventually got some sense into him when he lived with his mom shortly, though it was wayyyy too late. He still made it. I feel like if his friends confronted him more whenever he did something bad, he would’ve turned out to be a great person. But for some reason, they both seemed scared of him. Although, he was the only person putting the most effort in their friendship. Like when he got mad at Freddie when he didn’t do anything about his feelings for Effy, he just wanted him to say he loved her out loud, but he was too much of a pussy. Or when he kept checking on JJ when he started having his episodes again.
The obsession with Effy is just..too much. I don’t understand why everyone loves her. If this was in a real life setting and she persistently broke someone’s heart, they’d just learn from it and move on. No one would keep themselves around someone who does nothing but hurt them. They may have been charmed with her mysterious personality, but even when both Freddie and Cook dated her. They never got a clear image of who she was as a person, I don’t think anyone would date someone who would never open up about their feelings and just exist mysteriously.
And I hated Freddie, he said he had a crush on her but never did anything to win her until she came to him when she got jealous of his relationship with Katie. I don’t think he deserves that. It’s very selfish of her.
Also, I remember Effy and her mother requesting a different therapist before Freddie died. But by the last episode, we see the same old one checking on her in the facility saying he needs to leave town, and she said she wouldn’t know what to do without him.. So how come they didn’t stick to that either and didn’t offer any explanation as to why she changed her mind about the therapist?
I totally agree! It blows my mind that Cook or gen 2 in general is a fan favorite. While it wasn't as bad as gen 3, it lost a lot of what made gen 1 work so well.
God I can’t tell you how much I agree with every single thing you’ve said!!! Generation one was the best by far and the other two were just disappointing and I felt detached from most of the characters watching generation 2 and 3 x
You’re right in the money on everything. Like Gen 1 is so rewatchable and never gets old to me. Gen 2 is fine cuz of some character (I’m part of those who loved Cook cuz I related to that anger that angst and craziness in my teen and I also related to the absence of Freddie his way of almost not being there and being undecisive) I fucking loved JJ cuz he was weird and grew with it not out of it embracing his weirdness. I still liked Effy and all but her arc is just unbearable to watch. Naomi and Emily relationship was just perfect until they fucked it up but hey they did the same with fucking Cassie running out to FUCKING AMAERICA!!! No I’m not upset haha Overall I loved these two generations tbh but the first is just fully superior. We ain’t talking about gen 3 but I have to say I just love Richie boy épisode but his all romance with Gracie is unrealistic in its stupidity like I can’t believe how stupid it is. Same for the all season really. Anyway loved your opinion ! I love the idea that Skins marked us all for the rest of our lives in diverse ways!
Your view and description of gen 2 is on point!
My least favourite part was when
Spoilers
Freddie straight up died and no one fricking noticed or cared!!
Exactly that was dumb
What do u mean??... cook cared
Tyrese Lynch true but it didn’t make sense no one payed attention and there was nothing in the end about how they felt about it
@@saints_ yeah true they messed up there
@@tyreselynch6184 and his sister
I honestly watched/watch skins for comfort because it's in many aspects (mainly season1) very relatable for me and makes me feel less alone, honestly sad it didn't turn out all that great because it definitely had more potential
I loved Gen 3. It was my favorite generation where Gen 2 - I felt Effy was a huge romanticization and so was Cassie.
I loved skins a lot to the point where I actually wanted to write a series inspired by it.
glass cherries if u loved gen 3 ur idea of a series would go to shit
@@KaiiyV2 thats really mean even let people be creative, even shit art is meaningful. im not saying that their story is automatically shit but yeah don't be mean
I’m probably the only one who enjoyed every single generation and has no problem wit. Any of it except season 7. Even the US version I enjoyed and saw so much potential for a season 2 to get better.
Honestly when i watch season 7 i didn't like it at all and it stop watching it at like the 3 episode but i decided what the heck why not finish it and tbh im glad i finished...it was different but it was a good different
I felt like there was no proper closure at the end of the second generation. It moves onto the third generation and I’m still invested in the last one wanting to know what happened. In fact WTF
i loved skins first generation but just the first episode of generation two was such a turn off.
Exactly although I kinda felt the same way with gen 1 when I watched it I only really liked cassie and sid, I actually didn't like Chris that much at first (but he became my fav). It was my favorite thing about skins is how they make you like characters you think you won't and that's why gen 3 was a let down for me cus I didn't end up liking them
I thought series 1 was really great. Expect for episodes 1 and 6. I know in ep 1 they were still struggling to establish the tone and developing the characters in limited time. In one bit they get invited to a girls house party so Chris steals aload of their phones and then Tony punches someone in the head, they then steal a car and drive it into a river (what a nice group), plus there's no consequences for doing that for them for any of those actions. Episode 2 though is a real improvement because it focuses in more on a few key characters. Series 3 takes longer to get going but does get good between episodes 5-8, as the conflict reaches its climax. Generally though like all good TV actions do have consequences, Sid's unintentional actions lead Cassie to attempt suicide. Tony's actions mean him losing his friends. Chris and his wild parties and drug use makes him homeless.
Gotta be fucking kidding
Season 6 has some beautiful, introspective moments that people miss because they're too busy missing "the old cast" or "how it used to be." Newsflash, but shows change and evolve. And the writing in S6 was incredible at some points. Sure, gen 3 struggles a bit during S5, but if you get through that you'll be rewarded.
Exactly! I hate when people don't watch for prejudice and cause they liked and miss effy,cooj,naomi etc. Sincerely I liked gen 3 way more then gen 2. It has a better ending and to me it has the best characters along with Chris/Cassie.. Like Rich, Grace, Mini and Alo. And also it has the best couples :Rich and Grace and Mini and Alo!!
I watched first generation (s01&s02) and ended the show.
I still keep thinking about the characters, they won my heart.
Didn't go any further generation because i don't wanna ruin.
The main story of season 1 was pretty simple, a love triangle thing. Sid and Tony both love Michelle, though Tony doesn't act like it. Cassie loves Sid but it's unrequited, Sid doesn't seem to realise. At the end Sid loves Cassie leaving Tony and Michelle to be together. All the controversial issues and teen shenanigans were there in the background to spice things up and add some colour, humour and edge to the show. Its one reason season 1 was so good. Season 2 though pretty much does the whole Sid Michelle Cassie story line again even though it was settled last season. Plus the characters aren't as sweet and likeable this time round. Everyone is just glum and angry in season 2. Plus all the boys cheat on their girlfriends because they become idiots suddenly, like Chris and Sid. Add to this the new characters like Michelle's step sister and Sketch who were both unnecessary and bad additions, neither are relatable or normal. Season 3 goes back to the simple love triangle concept again. Effy must choose between Cook and Freddie. JJ likes her too but its made clear he's got no chance. Pandora is also sleeping with Cook but there's no love story there, that little addition just felt strange. The fact the triangle is not properly resolved is annoying though as that's what it was building to. They obviously wanted to make you watch season 4 to find out. It becomes more complex too when when Freddie starts a separate love triangle with Katie and Effy. Fast forward to season 4 and now Cook still loves Effy but she only loves Freddie so that triangle is shut down, season 4 is partly about Cook coming to terms with that, and how he deals with that pain and anger. Again though in season 4 everything is glum and grim. Only Katie becomes a more likeable 3D character. But Emily spends the whole season crying, Naomi feeling guilty, Thomas and Pandora look fed up the whole season. Its like the writers couldn't think of a good way to build conflict in a relationship expect just have them randomly cheat on each other. The writers clearly had no idea what to do with JJ this season either. His development was finished after season 3, learning to be happier and to stop worrying about being normal. You could take him out of season 4 and it wouldn't make any difference overall. The only good exception to the relationship writing was Freddie and Effy who have serious drama, not because of cheating or lack of love, but because of Effy's mental health problems. That could have been an okay storyline without the silly Dr Evil character ruining it.
i have to say it
Spoilers ish
FRANKY IS SO IRRITATING
Please tell my if you strongly dislike her so i can agreee with you in the comments and name my reasons
SO TRUE UGHH
I hate her omg thought I was the only one
i actually loved her in the start but the writing ruined her character totally
I hated her so muchhhhhh
i agree gen 3 was the worst one but it isnt as bad as people say it is
So basically gen 3 sucks... glad to know before I waste my time as I just finished season 4
animefangirl the season 4 gen was soooo sad when it ended
animefangirl definitely watch season1-4 and 7
i liked gen 3 :(
Lol just finished season 4 I won’t be watching season 5 and 6
Meyah Chery same
I really liked freddie he really didint do anything bad he even helped jj grow out of saying yes to cook but when he died it was out of nowhere and no one talked about it and i really cried abt it idk why but i started gen 3 and honestly im thinking of not watching it and moving on to 7 idk its too boring
Dudee I didn’t like that I never got closure like season 1 and 2 where my favorites but I got pissed that I never knew wtf happens later
I really wanted to grow with the characters you know have a good ending because just as I got to know the characters they changed them and in season 7 i didn’t feel they actually closed it well like only cook I think but I never knew if Naomi died or if effy did go to jail and if cassie did find sid or if adam came back
I think Cassie found Sid cause when her roommate asked her what she did before moving to the building she said she was in America with a boy but Cassie didn’t say the name of the boy so I COULD be Sid.
Gen 1 was my favourite of the 3, but Gen 2 had my favourite character in Cook, and Gen 3 had some great things, like the first real healthy relationship.
Some of the stuff which they wrote towards the end was so far fetched and outlandish that it gives you a renewed appreciation for series 1. They managed to base it all around pretty plausible college stuff, coursework, a few house parties, fancying your teacher, just hanging out, trying to buy cannabis but not knowing how, taking part in a music competition. Against this backdrop they also wrote a really sweet love story and developed some of the characters too like Tony and Michelle.
Effy's character was just bs from season 3 on. She was a cool mysterious ingredient in season 1/2 but from then on she was just pure cliche and unrealistic plot lines
Season one and two is pretty relatable. I’m from Bristol in my early 30s. Trust me there is that much rugs in Bristol. Massive drum and bass raves all the time then. I knew at least 2 of the actors.
Teenagers life is pretty much the same back then?
@@NeedleWorkerMore yes in Bristol for sure if you was into this sort of thing. Maybe if anything this is a little toned down.
I can’t be the only one that thinks that on season 7 they should have focused on another person than cook. I would of liked to someone like anwar or maxxie.
yess
i think doing cook made sense cause season 4 was left on such a cliffhanger. while gen 1 had a good ending gen 2's was just too ambiguous i wanted to know if cook was alive or dead
rich and grace are still one of the best couples ever written on television
Gen 3 was the worst as most of the characters weren’t relatable & were kinda boring but other than that skins was an amazing show & the best of Teen shows
I mean gen 3 was bad but rich is the best character in all of skins and he has the best ark spoiler.
Show goes to total shit when grace dies
skins is one of my favorite series, but i feel like the 3rd generation was missing something...like, there was no friendship that wasn't toxic at least a little bit. and it was WAYY more drama than generations 1 and 2.
Most people like season 1,2,3,4,7 and dislike season 5 and 6. I love season 1 to 6 (all generations) and I'm so disappointed about season 7. Season 7 could have make it a cult series but it's for me a random completely separated story without an outcome.
You must live in the matrix, ppl who didnt do drugs growing up will never realize how many people are doing drugs and living like this (season 3-4) hits me like a brick every time, like family, friends kids in ur class, I hate people who start there videos with, even tho its un realistic, people definitely did all of this and worse, like in a town with no real “gang set” just a bunch of thugs with no real direction this is exactly it, why do u think juice wrld is so popular cause this is real
Season 1: Perfect character building, real, deep and meaningful.
Season 2: Watched when I was in late school/early college. Could relate to the situations, not so much the drug and alcohol abuse, but still great to get on with!
Seaosn 3: SHITE.. Couldn't even relate to the metalhead who I was excited to see on screen, but he wasn't metal!
Latest spin off seasons: Cooks spinoff was quality!
You mean gen not seasons
@@apenstaartjeanna3889 Same thing
I know personally too and have heard lots of others talk about the effect characters have on an audience. When you're a kid you might watch a cowboy film or a superhero film and want to dress up and pretend to be that character afterwards. Teenagers though still get influenced too by TV and films which I think is why it was important to show in Series 1 that the cool popular leader Tony who you might think in ep 1 and 2 is the one we're meant to aspire to be, well, that's not actually the case. He's introduced as the handsome, well dressed, intelligent guy who has the beautiful girlfriend, the loyalty of his best mate/loser friend Sid, everyone seems to worship him. But through the series we see how he uses his charm and good looks to bully and manipulate people. He's selfish, egotistical and cruel. His actions lead to him eventually losing his popularity and he's forced to confront the results his bad actions have had on other people. He then starts to change as a character into a more mature, caring and reflective person. It's the same kind of character arc which Jamie gets in Game of Thrones, Steve in Stranger Things and Hank in Breaking Bad. Sid, while becoming more confident in season 1 is still basically remains the good well intentioned boy he was in S1E1, in the end it looks like he's rewarded by getting the girl. S3 though is more complex. Effy seems to be the main female character. I know she had a bit of an influence on girls at the time though but her character is not necessarily a very healthy one that people should want to copy. She seems so wild, apathetic and distant from people. Right from series 1 where we see her at 14 partying all night, playing with fire on a bus, not communicating and engaging in risky behaviour without caring about the wellbeing of herself or others. This should really be setting alarm bells ringing if this was your sister or daughter. As you get older though you learn it's best not to try and act like a fictional character, just be yourself. A fictional character is always going to be impossible to emulate.
But Shameless is just your preference. Skins is more relatable in the sense that once everyone grows up, they also tend to grow apart. That is why the generations changed every 2 seasons because it wouldve been just unrealistic for them all to still be around each other especially when u consider that at the end of gen 2 Thomas and Pandora went to America, Freddie died, they all finished school and not only was Cook expelled but he was also on the run from the police. Skins is skins. Shameless is shameless and for the recored I actually liked the 3rd gen because I could relate to a character like Nick in so many ways.
Skins made a big impact when it came out, it felt timely and spoke to a young audience. It wasn't a Kevin and Perry take on teenagers. It's not making fun of them. If anything it's the adults in the show who mostly are there for the comedy and to show how dysfunctional families are. There was nothing like Netflix back then so everyone was talking about it because there wasn't much else out there. Season 2 and 4 were too gloomy and far fetched for me, much less sense of fun. Seasons 1 and 3 did a better job at balancing the fun with the more serious issues and knew how to hint at subtler emotions and problems without hitting the audience over the head with heavy handed dialogue. The writers mostly couldn't think of good ways to develop conflict inside a relationship expect by just randomly have them cheat on each other. Thomas cheats on Pandora in S4Ep1 and in S4E2 it's revealed Naomi cheated on Emily, so they just spend the rest of the season doing the whole will they/won't they get back together. The whole Sid/Michelle/Tony love triangle was pulled out again in S2 even though it was dealt with perfectly and resolved in S1. Michelle also sort of regresses as a character in S2 and her actions seem messy and not true to her character. I think the show also put too much weight on it's leading love triangles and there were some characters who felt a bit like like secondary characters. For instance the season 1 finale is all about Sid/Tony/Michelle and Cassie sorting things out between them really. I can't even think of what Jal was doing in that one. With Season 3 again they made Cook/Freddie and Effy do much of the heavy lifting in terms of the plot and the writers maybe underestimated the popularity among fans of the Emily/Naomi love story. It was pretty big at the time to have this big lesbian love story on tv and everyone was routing for them which is partly why S4 felt annoying when they suddenly have Naomi cheat on Emily. In S4 though the writers maybe understood the fans wanted more screen time for characters like Emily, Pandora and Thomas. It was kind of disrespectful the way they weren't even in the finale of S3. What happened then was Effy and Freddie get pushed out a bit from S4, I don't think Effy even shows up for 3 episodes. So by the time you get to Freddie's episode in the middle you as a viewer actually want to see them again because it takes some weight off the other story lines which weren't really going anywhere. The best thing about S4 was Katie's character becoming a more fleshed out 3 dimensional person. Overall though as well as tackling the big issues and seeing the cute relationship dramas work themselves out all good shows need good character development. S1 had this for both Tony and Sid, it sort of drops off though in S2. Tony by the end of S2 is basically the same person as he was at the end of S1, so is Sid. I stopped watching after S4. I liked the way the show was filmed too. Maybe because it was low budget they filmed a lot of it in real suburban homes in Bristol. It helped give it a sense of realism that way. Like this could be you and your friends. I liked the dinner scenes with the parents and teens because they were funny but also kind of normal and relatable. Overall though it was a pretty unrealistic take on teen life. Where was all the studying, the part time work, the driving lessons, the trips out with your family? Of course after a year of non-stop partying they all get pretty much get great results.
Another weird thing I didn't get about the finale of S3 as well as the weird setting, gloomy weather, etc was the way Effy just disappears for weeks. She's still a minor at the time. Has she stopped going to School since Ep8? Aren't Social Services involved? Doesn't her mother mind? It just doesn't quite make sense to me and they never really explain it.
First 3 series - Fantastic. Series 4 - too dark, very melodramatic and silly. Series 5 - weaker characters, relationship dynamics didn’t make sense. Series 6 - even worse, early pointless character death, more random relationships that contradict previous ones A Meas
To me season one generations is the best because they where friends before the plot needed them to, there was a smoother transistion to gen 2 because of effy and the friends seem like they chould be real, but in season 5 they just seem to be friends just to be friends and the plot, their interactions seem so forced.
Series 3 has been my favorite so far! Its the only cast that has got me so emotionally invested.
The 1st and 2nd generation were great imo. The 1st generation was the complete package, just great. I found the end of the second generation with the mental psychiatrist a bit bizarre and rather off-putting, there were much better (more realistic) ways to kill off a character. I would also have liked to see more of Panda's development, and I didn't find Freddie's character relatable, I didn't feel he developed.
The 3rd generation was okay. There were some repetitions and some characters didn't really show enough development either, like Liv, Alex, Matt, Rich (after Grace's death) weren't really relatable anymore. Several plots did not make much sense and everything went back to drug abuse. I really can't think of a memorable moment in the 3rd gene 🤷, whereas the first two generations had many unforgettable bits.
Gen 1 was great and had a realistic vibe, and the ending was satisfying. I was sad that in season 3 there will be nobody from gen 1 except Panda and Effy, but after watching few episodes, gen 2 became my favourite. The problems of gen 2 pepole were less realistic and harder to relate to, but it was just so great. Seeing everyone of them change and grow at some point, their troubles, their moments of happiness was just something else. But then, the ending. ;-; that was the worst way possible to end this series!!! Omg, they’ve destroyed such amazing plot, Freddie’s death was like a hit with a brick to the head, and then the emptyness after the final scene… I was so frustrated with that, so I didn’t watch gen 3, I felt that it won’t be any good like the rest. Season 7 was a totally different thing, it was good. It showed that adult life can be so dissapointing (Effy’s episodes) and dully (Cassie’s episodes), can be hard to change it for better and escape demons from the past (Freddie’s episodes). The show makes you bond with characters soooooo much if you’re young person, but it just cuts off the connection you have with them at some point
A bit like the Simpsons, the earlier seasons revelled in some of the fun antics the group would get up to, house parties, drugs, winding their parents up. This was fine for a bit but they couldn't just do another season with the same stuff, it no longer shocks, delights or entertains. They felt they had to keep oneuping themselves each time. This was fine for a while till it started to get really far fetched. Opening scene of season 1 boy wakes up, works out, walks to school, phones his friends.
Season 2, big dance number.
Season 3, boy skateboards down Park Street
Season 4 person leaps to their death in a nightclub.
Season 5 girl is chased to college by a gang of bigoted schoolboys, she jumps on a mobility scouter and crashes into the School....
Each one gets bigger and therefore more fantastical and ungrounded.
Gen 1 was great loved the begging and end. Gen 2 loved it but the ending just made me mad but I did get emotionally attached to everybody.
Pretty sure I'll go to my grave still grumbling about how dirty they did my boy Freddie lol
Edit: Love seeing fellow Freddie fans in the comments grumbling with me nice.
What do you think of the end on being human
How are you comparing skins to shameless USA ? When there’s a shameless uk first ?
I loved all generations, seasons 1 to 6. Season 7 was shit and disappointing for me. It's like a total different story, it's not good for skins fans who have been following the series from the very first episode. Not an outcome at all.
Totally agree with you, the 3rd gen of teens just didn't hit quite right for me, they seemed so flat and boring compared to the first two generations, just couldnt relate to them or feel anything for them
2nd generation was my favorite, honestly wanted to cry when it ended
piepe 18 same new generation is shit
Just finished watching season 4
Honestly I found gen 2 super interesting in season 3. I liked them so much better than gen 1. But then season 4 was so boring
2nd gen IS the best
Hearing 2007 makes me feel old.
It was just 3 years ago... right? 🫣
@@DebbieSanna lol I was about 20 or 21 then in 2007 but I still remember Madison twatter (series 1) and hearing characters speaking the same god awful Bristol accent as me sounding like farmers / pirates lol
Great video, I’m really late to the party with Skins, completely passed it when it was first on TV but catching it now through Netflix. Season 1 and 2 were superb, the writing of season 1 especially is so relatable and profound so many of the episodes are embedded on my brain; just moved to season 3 and it honestly put me to sleep, the shift in approach to characterisation and overall development is one I’m having trouble with. Will try to make it through 3 and 4 but really interested in the final season for revisiting characters especially from the 1st gen
Why do British women put on thick makeup I never understood it living there
Ottima analisi. Skins è sempre stata una delle mie serie preferite, ormai da 10 anni circa, ma questo vale solo per la prima generazione che avrò visto mille volte... non condivido il giudizio secondo il quale sarebbe irrealistica ed esagerata, a tratti, perché in quel contesto sociale ci sta che sia così, penso che sia una rappresentazione credibile. Il giudizio è giusto, invece, a partire dalla seconda generazione, a mio modo di vedere, che è veramente eccessiva e a tratti senza senso. La terza è semplicemente inguardabile. Comunque sia, le prime due stagioni sono un capolavoro per quanto riguarda questo genere... mi fa piacere che ci sia ancora qualcuno che ne parli e la apprezzi
Anche Nicholas Hoult in un'intervista condivideva il tuo parere sull'esagerazione che però rimane nei limiti del realismo.
Purtroppo "Skins" era qualcosa di unico ed innovativo ed è veramente un peccato che sia caduto in basso così velocemente
Sono d'accordo, potenzialmente poteva essere una serie rivoluzionaria nel mondo delle televisione... e invece si è sprecata sul più bello. Davvero un peccato. Sicuramente è riuscita ad essere innovativa.
I loved the 3rd generation a bit more by now and think series 6 is of one of the best series of the show coz it was real. U lose a friend and it showed everyone’s reaction and how to deal with it. Other subplots were great too .
It was always going to fail eventually, since its the same set up for every generation.. Like Season 5 imo starts off pretty good, then it felt like they wanted to really push what they've been doing with a super early character death with is felt through all of season 6. I think Euphoria S1 picks up from the legacy of Skins but in a far more dramatic way.. I remember Australia had its own version called "Slide" although it was far more realistic to what actually happens in your teens.. Sadly never got renewed for a season 2 since well.. no one watches Australian TV shows haha
That Interstellar poster tho. Great video!
Great video, agreed on pretty much everything. Also, I love your make up.
Thank you so much!!
The show totally jumped the shark with the absurd evil therapist plot in season 4
Hearing Peter Capaldi's name pronounced like an Italian, that was a first for me :-)
I feel like skins borrowed alot from the show "As if" another channel 4 teen drama that came out in 2001 and doesn't really get talked about alot.
Can everyone agree that first season was the best by far
Am I the only one that actually loves 3rd generation like it was cool i know it wasn't like other gens but I really liked it
3 gen was running scenes glued together
I know everyone loves to shit on the 3 gen of skins and in my opinion it is the weakest one mostly cuz of series five but I found series six to be amazing in showing the different ways the cast would have to deal with the loss of their lover/best friend. Sure we got a lil on that in series 2 but it kinda all ended at the funeral. In series six we got to see the long terms effects of grief, survivors guilt, and the various coping mechanisms that the characters used which skins never tackled b4 cuz the characters deaths were usually at the end.
Definitely agree with almost all your points. I thought S7 was amazing and I just skipped S5/S6 as they were beyond awful.
I cried so hard when Freddy died...
Is skins is worth watching ?
If anyone else know
Please tell 🙏🥺
i was a late comer to skins, i was aware of of it back in 07' but being 14 i didn't really get chance to watch it at the time, i found a boxset of seasons 1-3 recently and watched them during lockdown, loved the first gen seasons, cleverly written but also cynical and humourous, gen 2 was just frustrating as the kids never really learnt anything and there wasn't much payoff for most of what season 3 was trying to build, plus that episode where freddie's sister goes on that weird show was mega cringe, i get that it was a satire of decadent reality television but i just couldn't wait for that to end, which is a shame because i found karen attractive. i'm probably not going to bother carrying on because skins kept killing my favourite characters, first sid's dad, then chris, and in season 4 freddie gets killed.
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That was the point of skins the older ones moved on it was just based when they was in college...
Sid's story is unresolved.
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The 1st generation was by far the best, great group of diverse characters with brilliant storylines.
The 2nd generation, season 3 was 5 stars absolutely incredible but season 4 was where the cracks began to show and where the shows downfall began, I found that season pointlessly dark. The 2nd gen was almost too dependent on Cook.
The 3rd generation was so unwatchable. I think I gave up after 3 episodes, the majority of my friends in school at that time also gave up on the show.
Season 1to 4 are my favorite i just hate how abrupt the last episode was
I just finished the gen 2 and bruh wtf was this ending?
It did not fail, this was just my life, from first to last episode.
It Took me more than two months to finish the third generation which speaks for itself. The only interesting characters didnt get enough screen time and the plot and character developement was just awful
0:50 who is that in the front and WHERE IS CASSIE?
Yes Cassie is missing from some pictures but there’s the character Sketch included instead and the character Abigail too even though they weren’t main characters
Enjoyed Gen 1. Put up with Gen 2. Gave up on Gen 3.
TBH fire should have has more references to cook, freddy, tony, etc etc. it was just a wannabe continuation with no purpose.
Only good thing about the show are all the great actors that came out
The first 2 sessions were the best session 4 started to be , the down fall of it .
does anybody know how many years pass for season 7?
I am so happy that I left the show after first 2 seasons
Season 3 and 4 were the best imo, including season 7
@@hypeuprise7026 may be I will watch S03 and S04 in future but right now where ever I saw the ratings of the show only the first 2 get excel in everything
@@yashdotania yeah ok, but don't always go by the ratings. Riverdale has good ratings but it is without a doubt one of the worst written, acted, and even edited shows on the planet.
@@hypeuprise7026 my frnd told me exactly the same abt Riverdale I think people watched the show bcoz of cast thank btw.
I also started the skins just for effy plus I watched the ratings too then I found out abt the rest of the cast Nicholas ,Joe ,Hannah,Daniel,Dev that makes me so excited & if I continue the show the soul reason would be Kaya .
I stopped watching in the middle of season 3 because that one episode with Thomas was very offensive.
I dont understand what's happening in gen 2, its really so boooring, explain to me what do you like in it? Gen 1 is my favorite❤ gen 3 didnt watch
Ok, hear me out.
Frankie. 🤢🤮
Thank you for joining me today.
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The one offs with Cook, Effy, and Cassie were all kind of shit too.
Your beautiful, thanks for this review. I enjoyed what I seen of the show
WHERE CAN I WATCH SKINS UK?
Netflix
When exactly was cassie bullied?
Mattis Stürner the notes telling her to EAT and messages saying the same thing, unless that was her going insnane
in the pilot, and even in the second episode when Michelle’s stepdad says that she doesn’t eat anything and even Michelle calls her a “bitch that doesn’t eat anything”.
@@dobmeista7193 Hello! Actually, in season 7, in Cassie's story, she mentioned that those messages of "EAT" where sent by her mother :')
Mattis Sturner Michelle also called Cassie a “crazy bitch”
When Tony sits down in front of and asks "How's dippy world?"
Your a delight to watch 😊
Gen 1 is the best
Gen 2 is rrly good but rrly shows some sciences as overplayed
Gen 3 is rrly BAD can’t be birthed to watch it
Gen 3 wasnt bad. I just couldnt relate to it.. because it wasnt my generation.
my most unpopular opinion:
i don't like effy lol
From seson 5 it went just down