TS 157 - 2020 SNOWBIKE SETUP - JETHRO450
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- Опубліковано 22 сер 2024
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BIKE PARTS
CHAIN - Replace your junk timbersled chains with this, will have to cut it - BikeMaster 520 BMXR X-Ring Chain amzn.to/3ACt7Ay
Pivot dolly brace Polaris part number 2208170
Honda GN4 10-40w oil, no engine issue in 30+ years amzn.to/2F8DNLg
SNOWBIKE RAMP (same as timbersled) amzn.to/39oCK7A
FRONT WHEEL KIT Call Jeff @ 661-769-6686, tell him Jethro450 (jed) sent ya
RADIATOR GUARDS - many choices for other bikes, but not YZ450f's www.unabiker.com/
HEADLIGHT Many options, Iceage quite making the one I have, amzn.to/3u2neLB
THERMOSTAT shop.watt-man....
Or C3 stats are awesome c3powersports....
TEMPERATURE GAUGE amzn.to/2SAbrxF
Trailtech has adapters www.trailtech.net
3" ALUMINUM TAPE amzn.to/2PXnAyM
AIRPRO FORK BLEEDER www.airprofork...
HEAVY FORK SPRINGS Try race tech, mx tech, factory connection, Toby Till @ www.rockymounta...
FORK SEAL SAVERS - I’ve switched to using full length and don’t run fork guards anymore amzn.to/3KKguYy
TIE-DOWN STRAP HOOKS - handy! amzn.to/2tQD5Q9
HANDGUARDS - Tusk D-Flex amzn.to/33TlSbl
BAR MITTS - Powermadd Gauntlets Bar Mitts amzn.to/2Wu3ONI
ENGINE JACKETS PST is my preferred www.powersports...
Or Selkirk selkirksmx.com/
Or SXS Snow Shields (Engine Jacket) - www.sxslideplat...
Or RevvUp revvup.net/eng...
Or Drifters Engine Jacket - driftersproduc...
FOOT PEGS Fastway Adventure - amzn.to/2tJZdvI
Or C3 has some cool ones c3powersports....
Or Flo Adventure Pegs - amzn.to/30dEr3F
ECU - PR2 - pr2racing.com/
Option Buy Vortex ECU, dyno tune it (that’s what I did and it’s amazing, didn't on my 2019) www.vortexcdi....
GAS CANS - BIKE IMS for the bike, www.imsproduct...
GAS CANS - KIT MOUNTED Mountain Addiction - www.mountainad...
Rotopax for the ARO - rotopax.com/
GAS CAN KIT COVERS www.revvup.net/...
THE TUGGER amzn.to/38att1B and amzn.to/35UlfsT
POD FILTER PARTS (FOR ’14+ YAMAHA’S)
2 to 2/5” Reducer Silicone Tubing amzn.to/2T5UCjq
2.5" clamp on pod filter, 3"wide by 6" tall - Part Number UP-6245 amzn.to/2H9fleM
3.5"x6" Round Outerwears Cover w/Top Part number 20-1010 amzn.to/2BYhabj
2-3" Hose Clamps (you need 2) amzn.to/3rQDDQr
2" PVC Pipe, go to local hardware store or amzn.to/2VtZLhF
Frogzskin Material For Intake Covers, must super glue amzn.to/2BZhJkT OR amzn.to/2HeK8an OR buy Neil Smart’s YZ intake product (facebook)
1/16" ABS plastic for the front blocker thing amzn.to/309LsCx
1/8” ABS PLASTIC FOR VARIOUS BUILDING amzn.to/2XoclAW
fastfittings.com/ barbed fittings (installing radiator stuff)
CLOTHING & GEAR
GOPRO HELMET MOUNT (best mount there is) amzn.to/2VADDCB
Red Version amzn.to/2GX68XY
GOPRO HERO'S amzn.to/3KNnt2S
GOPRO Tether amzn.to/2Ui0wh2
HELMET LIGHT amzn.to/3fW6vBf or amzn.to/32wSerE
RADIOS
BCA - amzn.to/2HcvRuL
BaoFeng works better amzn.to/2HcbMVc or amzn.to/3nZoLOJ
SHOVEL amzn.to/2EsTsV1
PROBE - many options, amzn.to/3AyytfW
BEACON - DO NOT SKIMP ON A BEACON! amzn.to/3H8X4uj
AIRBAG - DON’T SKIMP amzn.to/2SG83Br
BOOTS - Klim Boa amzn.to/2TbPCK8 (bad for kick start bikes)
HEATED GLOVES - FXR Recon’s amzn.to/3F97qZv
GLOVES Klim Togwotee amzn.to/36LRdsI
BIBS - many options Klim Havoc amzn.to/3o0vgRl
JACKET - Klim Vector Parka very warm! amzn.to/3AxdXwa
HEAD SOCK/LINER - amzn.to/2IO0bOM
PORTABLE POWER PACK TO START BIKE amzn.to/3FZy2MN adapter for it amzn.to/2TtZaik bike battery adapter amzn.to/2u39gw9
509 Heated Goggles - amzn.to/3u2fDge
HJC Universal Breath Box - Black amzn.to/2sArAwf
WATER SEALANT SPRAY - amzn.to/2taPUVr
You should get a Selkirk engine cover kit or a PST engine blanket/jacket. Nevermind that Selkirk looks sick AF
Did you watch the video?
@@jethro450 a little, sorry have on a tab to finish, I did see your blanket though. It's just there are much better and you can use your plate. That comment was meant for another video. Pardon me, idiot moving through . so what do ya say...lol
@@brinkee7674 haha I figured. Happy snowbiking! And I agree, the Selkirk stuff looks sick
@@jethro450 WATCH THE VIDEO? This is utube I don't need to watch it to comment, I already know everything. pfft EDIT: Sarcasm off
Have a Happy. Healthy and Prosperous New Year
I just purchased my first snowbike. A 2000 KX500 with a mountain horse 120. Now I need to make snowbike friends here in Utah.
Phillip Toone 7:30 am at snake creek tomorrow morning...
@@jethro450 Thank you for the invite but I've already got plans to go up Middle Canyon tomorrow morning with my family. Probably best to take it on a little trip like this first. Is there a way to send personal messages here?
How about that wood block raiser stand ! 110%
Nothing but custom stuff over here haha
Thumbs up for the slide in rad blockers.
I’ve used your videos to build my setup. Tons of your ideas have came in very handy. I’m concerned about chain tension. Everything I’ve read says tight is good. Very counter intuitive as you know. I’m nervous it’s going to take out my counter shaft seal and be hard on other motor components. That and I have a very cool intake I built from a twin air wash cover.
Mike Bates As your kit compresses, the chain loosens. So it’s good to have it tight when fully extended. Also, on the ARO and Riot kits, if your chain is too loose it’ll prematurely break the plastic chain slider on the front of the kit. I know of several guys who have broke their brand new chain slider within a few miles of the truck cause the chain was loose to begin with, then it got even more loose as it broke in. No bueno. And I disagree about the Airpro, that thing rocks as a secondary help for jumping or if you’re not a jumper, works great on stock forks.
jethro450 i put race tech gold valves and springs for my weight in my forks. A little heavier than stock. I haven’t jumped at all but am road bound due to lack of snow but I was told that the air pro has been tested to 85 psi with no adverse results. I’ve only run it at 16 psi so far but road riding isn’t a good test obviously.
I was concerned about the loose chain during compression of the TSS on my aro, so I built a chain tensioner using the original chain roller on a short arm mounted at the lower roller mounting point. This way the chain is under some tension but never super tight.
Lance Sellers, I thought about fabricating a tensioner.
That’s a great idea Lance. You should post pics on the Facebook group so we can all check it out
Drill a hole in your skidplate for the drain plug skidplate will help maintain consistent temp in the deeper snow
With five snow biking seasons under my belt on the YZ, and 10 total, for me and this set up no skid plate is best for temperature management. I’m sure other setups like the skid plate.
Thanks very much for this video. I’m brand new and so much to learn. Much appreciated.
My 2019 CRF450 is being assembled by the dealer today and my Camso DTS is on the truck, on the way to my dealer right now.
I'm so excited for snow!
My bike is fuel injected, is yours? The dealer suggested to me NOT to run an LED headlight off the battery as they said it could mess with the ECU. Thoughts?
I didn't think an LED would draw enough wattage to affect the ECU if it's being fed directly from the battery, but I'm no electrician!
I really like that new radiator guard idea, I might have to do that too. 😁
you should just buy a outawear for you air filter you complicated the thing so much!
Farfelu356 After all the years of me doing this you think I haven’t tried that?
@@jethro450 this is what i have done last season and no problem i also have frog skin at the entrance of the air box and i dont see any problem with it! i just dont see the point of buying a expensive stuff when you dont really need one! all the other stuff you have mentions was perfect but the airbox mod i dont think so! too bad i can put a picture 40$ outawear that are water repellent vs a full new air box for what 200$ ... where is the point...
Farfelu356 My pod filter parts are $50. No new air box. No cutting of the airbox or airboot. If you ride super deep powder, I don’t care what you’ve done to seal all the holes, powder gets in. This setup is bullet proof and cheap and safe! Let me explain the safe part. When you do get powder in your stock airbox, and you will, and you don’t get it all out.... guess where that melts and goes to? Straight to your carb. Right down the airboot. Then you have lots of water sitting on the carb throttle body waiting for you to crack the throttle. Not good. You can keep your stock setup. I’ll choose this one every time. It’s really not that hard to make and you’re not modifying anything stock (airboot, air box). It all goes back to stock for the summer for me.
@@jethro450 what is you bike and wich year? 2020? i wont have this probleme because mine is injection i have think you had a wr450f 2016+ wr and yz are injection since 2012 if im right... anyway im not the only one using outawear and we never had any problem i have see way to much people overkill there setup for expensive price ... like the pst jacket... you can get a crazycrapet for 6$ in the color of your choice instead of 200$ + for a jacket but i dont complain about that its there choice ;)
Great video. Learned some awesome tips that I'll employ on my 19' 450FX/ ARO 137. Thanks for the links as well. I'm out of Idaho Falls, would love to ride with you sometime!
instablaster...
Hopefully I didn't just overlooked it, but I didn't see your link to your new radiator guards in the info area.
Oh I forgot that one! I just added it.
Perfect, I just ordered a set 😁
Good video. Thanks!
Hey guys - put the extra front spindle bracket in the holes more forward of where I did in this video. I guess not having that bracket actually provides more strength, this is according to inside sources at Timbersled... so I will obey!
Hello i have a problem with my yz450f 17 on my timbersled riot. My temperature is running too low . I have an engine jacket, thermostat and 1 radiator blocked. Im running not more than 60-65 deg and my tstat is a 88 deg. Do you have an idea for me?
Thanks
I’ve never heard of a thermostat that low. I have a 180 in mine. My best guess is you’ve got your thermostat plumbed wrong or it’s not working at all.
Any reason why you went with pod filter over an older setup video with just a frog skinned intake + prefilter in place of foam filter? Just ordered the components to do the later to a '17 yz450f I just picked up. Great videos, helped me figure out what I needed to setup my first timbersled!
Richard Johnson Yes. No matter how good you are sealing every little crack, big powder days you’ll still get snow in there. And if you leave it, it melts in the garage. Then it drains down your air intake. Then you have water sitting on the carb body... ask me how I know?! There’s no one out there who wished the stock setup would work more than me! It just wasn’t bullet proof.
@@jethro450 thanks for the tip! I will have to pick up what you have listed locally and save myself some $, shipping is killer to where I live.
@@jethro450 another quick question, is there an air temp sensor or anything to worry about on the yz450f or is it just a straight up tube to pod filter? I haven't even put the bike on the stand for the first time yet, waiting for everything to arrive
Richard Johnson there is a sensor but you keep that portion where it installs so it all works out
How do you like the riot? You have had ridden lots of bikes why the Yamaha? I have a 05 honda want to upgrade. Was thinking Yamaha but honda makes more power your thoughts.
Dustin
I like the riot a lot. I will also be getting an aro3 (and keeping the riot) for my next bike. The 19+ Honda’s are awesome. I wouldn’t hesitate getting one. They do have more power. I’m still a dirt biker and the Yamaha has the best off-road suspension, hence the reason I got the Yamaha.
@@jethro450Thanks for the response. I think I will go riot Honda 2019. Thanks for the reply can't wait to see your riot videos
No more NOS? ;)
It never really worked great. Couldn’t keep the bottle warm enough and the external battery that ran the electronics was very touch and go. Plus it screwed up the battery voltage of the bike and made it ridiculously hard to start.
Ps. My 2022 setup is gonna be sick. New riot3 pro plus lots of motor work on the 19’ yz.
@@jethro450 cant wait to see the reveal !!
The 129 rhiot pro looks nuts!
@@sampep ya I can’t wait
@@jethro450 any high compression piston and hot cam planned?
You’re garage looks like a Yamaha snowbike shop!!👍
Doing our snow dances here in NorCal 🤞
Lance Sellers there is a husky in there of you look close haha
Hey man, awesome video.
I’m looking for mappings for my Wr450.
Was wondering if you had any advice?
Ryan Posusta Sorry I’m not much help on WR mapping. I’ve dyno tuned my bikes in the past to get best results and it’s never ended up a straight -3, +3 across the board like a lot of guys do. All I can say is don’t be afraid to play with the tuner, it’s designed so you can’t blow up your bike.
how meny bikes do u have? any 2 strokes
Lots of 2 strokes in the house. I have more of them than I do four strokes. I like them all. See my other videos, I have some good comparison videos.
@@jethro450 ok that’s awsome ima try and watch all the oldest vids
Do all the benefits of the yzf overwhelming outweigh the E-start on the WR?
Gearing is a big deal. Close ratio is what you want for snow biking. 18 and up and you get electric start too on the yzf. Having said that, I’ve ridden wr’s and they aren’t all that bad. If you see a fantastic deal on a wr, go for it
Can't wait!
what map are you using for the 2018 yz450f
It’s a 19’. I’ve ran the TP 2.0 map as well as the -3, +3 map and haven’t noticed much of a difference between either of them. They both seem to work fine.
@@jethro450 does the 19 use the same smart phone app as the 18. I'm not sure what the -3 +3 map is.
@@JMServicePros yes, same app.
-3’s all across the board on fuel mapping, +3’s all across the board on ignition timing.
@@jethro450 I'll try that. Thank you so much
Jethro what length did you run the tss on the older mountain horse?
Robert Zenisek I ran exactly what Timbersled recommended. I can’t remember what length that was but I know that was one of the only kits I’ve had that I didn’t have to mess with TSS length. One of my other videos might have that info
jethro450 okay thanks buddy!
Ive found no more than a 1/4inch + or - from the reccomended length
Do the seal savers just zip up or do you take the ski off?
Minnesota Snowbiking they are installed from the top down, with the forks off the bike.
jethro450 do you think the zip up ones would also work good?
@@minnesotasnowbiking283 I've never tried them so I can't say. You're gonna have to be the guinea pig on that one my friend
Shock Sox Velcro on. I’ve ran them since the bike was new in 14. Can’t imagine my seals lasting 70+ hours without them.
Would an 09 yz450 be a decent snow bike platform? Carb a problem?
Jay bray It’ll work great, just wrap the carb with some sort of jacket to keep it warm and you’re golden. I rode my carbed 08 Honda for many years, zero issues. In some ways a carb is better than EFI. It won’t over fuel the motor for one
@@jethro450 Thanks man. Gonna pick up a timbersled or camso kit as I have been wanting to buy one for a while.
What was the brand of the front wheel kit? I dont think you mentioned it or listed in the description. Huge amount of knowledge in this video!
Clayton Farrell why thanks for watching! So the info is there (there’s a lot to sort through) it’s a phone number for Jeff Rydalch, he has a machine shop and makes them.
@@jethro450 Ope. Sorry I missed it! Thanks for the help! This video just made me spend a lot of money on parts 😂
No problem! First ride was pretty deep powder yesterday. I had my blockers in all day and it was still fairly cold, aluminum radiator guards didn’t work as good as I hoped, but it was still better than the plastic guards
What weight of oil you running in winter?
Dan Raby I put this info in the “info section”. Just hit the little down arrow on the bottom right side of the video, by the video title.
Hey, could you help me find this Neil smart guy. Having a hard time lots of people on facebook with that name
ty bulkley sure his email address is nsmart2668 at gmail dot com
Hello I like your setup just wondering why you don’t use the trio shock?
$$$$$$$
With the air pro snobike kit. It is totally a waste of cash.
Is this only a 120 track? How does it do in the deeper snow? Deciding on a kit soon.
Mitchell Hubert it does just fine but if you ride deeper snow more often than not, get an ARO3
Which video do you talk about the TSS length and track sitting flat? i didn't see it when i searched
SkiandBike episode 132!
Great video.
Question on the x tune.
How do you measure you have 400lbs of air?
The gauge only goes to 300psi.
I can't find another fox pump to go that hi.
Are you still liking the tss over the fixed strut?
Thanks
mark reuss just guessing based on the distance between marks that it’s 400 when you pump it all the way around tell it hits the stop post.
No jumping, no need for the tss. Jumping, I like it. Mine is pumped up so much that it pretty much doesn’t move until I started jumping or hitting g-out kinda stuff.
@@jethro450 I'm not jumping that much. Hell not even enough on the east coast to ride yet.
I had the tax from old kit so sent it out.
Already installed it .
A bit of a pia if I have to keep checking air pres.
I'll try it .
Thanks for the quick response.
Great videos keep up the good work
Do you have the x tune on the TSS?
mark reuss 11:15 I mentioned that. Yes, X-tuned
@@jethro450 with the valving I would have thought you would use suggested air.
Its a pia keeping it up to 400psi . And I'm probably 250 with gear
Whats wrong with the old one?
ytalytal nothing, it rocks too! It’s not mine, just put a riot on it for a friend
I've got his old 2014 yz450f and just went out for a snow bike ride today and it's still running strong too. 😁❄️🌲
That 14’ has more power than my 16 and 19... 🤔
Where about did you get your 6.2 springs from?
Jeremy Deschamps Toby till, there’s a link in the info section of the video