Cuphead: The Fake Outrage
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- Опубліковано 23 лис 2017
- it is with a heavy heart that i must announce that the gamers are at it again
Content warning: mega-racist cartoons.
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"What is it with the dice?"
Black people were portrayed as compulsive gamblers to explain away generational poverty as their own fault.
Ohhhh. that makes a lot of sense. thank you
This should have more attention than what it does
Oof 😓
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Man, that's racist.
gamers: games are art!!!!!
critics: *analyse games as if they're art*
gamers: NO
who are you qouting, my friend
Let's fix the misunderstanding; it's time for everyone to learn.
gamers: games are art!!!!!
*non-gamer* critics: analyse games as if they're the art they know
gamers: NO
Horus SC
Which non-gamer critics? Because most of these articles do come from gaming websites and journalists.
Or just gamer critics rather than non gamer critics
It's more like critics analysing games as sociopolitical statements.
As a lesbian who adores walking simulators, I wholeheartedly agree with the idea that developers should only make lesbian walking simulators.
wholeheartedly agree
lmao YESSS
but seriously, walking simulators rule.
I don't like walking most simulators, not my cup of tea (Edith Finch and Firewatch rule though) but if game devs only made lesbian walking simulators it would make Gamers™ really angry so I still think it'd be a net positive
@@Mitcheck315 it would be enough if they made one lesbian walking simulator
@@Asaliuru i think the game "Gone Home" would qualify as a lesbian walking simulator, although i'm not the greatest at categorizing. The game is great either way and I definitely recommend. It has immaculate vibes and a fun story.
"They are constantly calling Cuphead racist! All the time!"
"Um...who, exactly?"
"THEM!!!"
THEM!
When a ideology refers to a "them" and they don't define who "them" is, then you know it's a bullshit ideology
Mr. weasel But even then, that is still pretty vague because SJW is just a strawman that can be anything they want. Even if it is completely contradictory.
Mr. weasel Again, still pretty vauge.
Mr. weasel
Well for one the idea that the "toxic left" makes shit up to make the right look bad is a complete lack of understanding of your opponent's arguments in an attempt of denial.
Secondly you are using leftist and toxicity pretty loosely. I'm pretty sure lots of people you are calling leftist are barely even that but you are calling them that because they said something you hate.
Thirdly, you aren't pointing to anybody directly. Because you know as soon as you do you'll get you ass laughed off to oblivion. So you stick to pointing indirectly to a vague shadowy concept that people can fill in with whoever they don't like.
Also NPC is a term unaware of its own irony. It demonstrates you are only here to call people names and spew bs. That or waste people's time with "jokes."
It's always the 'fuck your feelings' crowd who are the first to loudly complain when their feelings are hurt
3 words: arrested emotional development. Imagine how much better society would be if these guys just got off the internet and sought out a therapist lol
@@Sarah-re7cg A terapist that wasn't Jordan Peterson
@@apoliticallyincorrect4811 if my therapist acted even remotely in the same manner as JP, they’d be fired so fucking fast
@@apoliticallyincorrect4811 But I like his voice.
The same goes to the "freedom of speech is under attack" crowd always being the first to actively try and shut down (or as they say, gatekeep) anything they disagree with. Not to imply those are different groups, as the overlap is quite significant.
Gamers want to be oppressed so badly
Brianna B so badly, they manufactured an identity around it.
Just like everybody else these days. Everyone from huffington post to breitbart.
It's all so tiresome.
we live in a society
They just want busybodies to leave them alone.
Gamers rise up
I want an ASMR video that's just Shaun saying "coop-head" again and again in that smooth, sleepy Liverpoolian purr
NonCompete *Liverpudlian
@NonCompete His voice really is smooth, like damn. 😁👍
I'm here on a rewatch...that scouse lilt literally helps me sleep better than lofi chill hop or nature sounds.
@@InfiniteDeckhand Now I'm outraged 😂
@@oof-rr5nf
Is that your kink?
Critic scores for difficult games:
Dark Souls trilogy: 9/10
Bloodborne: 9/10
Cuphead: 9/10
Nioh 1 and 2: 9/10
Sekiro 9/10
GaMErS: "GAME JOURNALISTS HATE DIFFICULT GAMES BECAUSE SOMEONE WROTE AN OPINION PIECE ON IT"
Well of course, opinion is the oppsoite of fact, and good is the opposite of bad, and so if it's a fact that [game] is good, any opinion on it must be that it's bad :p
elden ring: 10/10
@@haveyoureadumineko tbh Elden Ring does make many improvements to the Souls formula.
And just recently, Elden Ring, the most difficult game of the year, was voted GOTY by critics of various media outlets. But nah man, let's keep pretending more people hate our games just to feel cooler about liking them.
And sifu, a game famous almost exclusively for its insane difficulty, is a favourite amongst game journalists and has a 9/10 on IGN and gamespot.
God, I hate "Gamers". For people, who constantly make fun of others being "triggered", they're the most emotional, easily manipulated professional victims of them all.
Which is ridicolous, because it assumes all gamers consider themselves equal.
Go on the Eve Online Forums and try to argue that WoW players are as good as them and see what happens. :P
yes, i sure do hate Those People as well
You can make a gamer do whatever you want if you say the evil SJWs are doing the opposite.
UA-camrs like LegacyKillaHD, AlphaOmegaSin, YoungYea played a big part in this. Being reactionary and siding with the players to perpetuate the narrative that gamers are oppressed, that everything is coming to get them, when in fact that their voices in gaming are just as loud and widespread as any media outlet. In this case, it actually benefits them as they rely on clicks for their income.
Tell me about it, have you seen the Diablo Immortal reaction?
This is the equivalent of the war on Christmas for "Gamers".
All this is for their side hustle(YT).
That's it
Yup.
One of the things that most frustrates me about anti-sjw types; they come real close to having valid critiques of oppressive systems, but manage to mangle them into tragically misdirected anger.
A bunch of men who feel oppressed...but, instead of realizing it's the capitalist system taking advantage of them, they blame feminism 🤦
That's the sad thing, they ARE victims. We are all victims. But instead of actually addressing the people in power, they attack other victims...only making it worse.
Ironic
And sometimes they have a legitimate grievance against leftist excesses/obnoxiousness, but then they take their grievance and rage, dial it up to 11, add a bunch of broad assumptions and lies, and start beating everyone upside the head with it.
@@andrewdussault2315 and then when that gets tired, apparently they just start making stuff up.
@@sorryifoldcomment8596 anti-sjw or conservatives or rightwingers or whatever you wanna called them, most of time know that the powerful are to blame but prefer actively to engange with minorities instead. It's more rewarding for them and they fell they can have an impact, at the heart of the debate there's a pessimist acceptance that the powerful will remain as such
Oh God, I absolutely ended up hating Dean Takahashi, I thought he just complained, I thought he criticized the game for being too hard, thus, it being bad. And this thought lasted till this very day because other people told me this information and I never gave it a second thought or checked anything. Goddammit idiot me was absolutely wrong and I feel terrible.
The important part is that you remember this for the next outrage train!
I feel the same way
Major props for confessing being incorrect! We all do it, admitting it is the real important thing. Mad respect.
Yo same! I also believed the same shit
I know me too I feel so bad and also like totally duped and also stupid for just accepting what people said about it
"developers should only make walking simulators about lesbians from now on"
what if i want this unironically tho
Now how are we going to get trans representation if we only have games about cis lesbians? Use your head comrade!
@@CheapSkateGamer96 who said the lesbians had to be cis? don't call me comrade, terf!!!
@@CheapSkateGamer96 we're not talking about trans women, mate. lesbians can be trans but not all trans women are lesbians. like squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares. thems fighting words, you wanna settle this behind a dennys?
wouldn't that make most games walking simulators?
@@GiordanDiodato OMG that is so real.
Call of Duty - Walking and gun shooting simulator
GTA - Walking and carjacking simulator
Mirror's Edge - Walking fastly on rooftops simulator
Mario - Walking and jumping around stuff simulator
You're doing it wrong. You're not supposed to calmly state an informed opinion.
This is the Internet, you're supposed to make wild assumptions and scream bloody murder.
@MadHatterMan Gr8 icon, m8 👌 Kobayashi is best girl
Honestly, the term "Wild assumptions" properly hits my funny bone. Not sure why, I just chuckle whenever I see it. Thanks for the laugh. 😂
Also, cursing. Lots and lots of cursing. And impressions of unspecified people.
anime pfp
HOW DARE YOU CALL HIM WRONG BECAUSE OF HIS HAIRSTYLE! YOU'RE NOTHING MORE THAN AN ANARCHIST MONARCHIST DELTA!
That work for you?
"Don't believe me when people say they're mad about this game? Look at this angry conversation!"
First tweet in conversation: "I'm not personally upset about this game..."
That part upset me the most in this video. This Mark person had the counter evidence to his claim right in front of him and either misread or ignored the message. How does this happen?
Shaun summarizes that right at the start
fakeoutrage people have serious reading comprehension problems. theyre actually functionally Illiterate
@@xiii.5331 " and either misread or ignored the message. How does this happen?" Unfortunately this doesn't just happen with video games T_T all people are able to (AND DO) read something then act as if they didn't read what they just read. it's so jarring that it seems intentional and the age of "sh-t posting" makes it impossible for us to know if it is or isn't.
I always laugh at the "If society was destroyed/nuked [blank] people won't survive." The people who always say that probably have no skills in being able to survive in that kind of world.
"But I'll get a sword and kill my mom so that I can stay up past 8!"
As Renegade Media pointed out in his take on Thanos (spoilers, he's not actually right to kill half of everyone, we should kill excesses of capitalism's unequal distribution of critical life-giving resources instead and then there's literally enough for 10+ billion right now), even a guy with a supposedly completely fair purge method, delete half of everyone without regard to any category, class, type, or bias.... apparently didn't include himself in the snap.
Everyone who's ever actively called for mass purges in the real world, for the apocalypse, for some grand 'cleanse' of the Earth, always assumes they're going to come out on top of it all. That's why they do it, and it's always just as pathetic.
Ok sure people would die in a nuclear holocaust, Thad how this works. Afterwords more people would die. Valuing nuking societies to get rid of different groups of people is basically a nazis way of thinking
[insert joke about how playing Fallout is actually valuable training for surviving in a post-apocalyptic nuclear wasteland or something]
i wish more people would admit that they wouldnt survive. ill start: i will absolutely off myself before living in a nuclear wasteland, no thank you
Making up fake outrage for clicks is the new counter culture yo.
Salokin it wouldn't be surprising if it were real.
Ain't that the truth man.
TiberiusNugicus But it isn't real. Stay on the facts.
If you wouldn't be surprised if it were real, then you misunderstand something about how the world works, since it isn't real. If you had a perfect understanding of the world, then ideally, no truth would surprise you and all falsehood would surprise you.
Fake outrage seems like a waste of time.
Cuphead is almost as hard as watching an entire minute of AlphaOmegaSin
I used to be subscribed to him, but then he started becoming more alt-right.
@@GiordanDiodato same. i forgot about his existence until this vid looooool
AlphaOmegaSin sounds like the username of a 14yr old Teenwolf fan tbh
I never even liked him when I was an anti-SJW.
Based on what I've seen, Cuphead is Kirby's Epic Yarn compared to that, at least now it is.
Maybe "these people" were inside our hearts all along.
These people are the ones we met along the way
@@theblackherald lmaoooo
Not cool d00d, untagged spoilers!
Maybe these people are the friends we made along the way
"Are 'these people' in the room with us right now?"
kind of inspiring
“These SJWs know no bounds!”
Hahahaha. So nice of him to inspire us like that.
AlphaOmegaSin inspires me to be the best and most social justicey social justice warrior I can (social justice) be!
I feel like there are more "Anti-SJWs" getting mad over nothing, than actual SJWs.
The matriarchy on Mars!
My favourite is "a retarded worm play better" -doge
It’s hilarious when gamers who insist that games are art hate when artistic criticism is applied to them.
what are you talking about?
lol, true.
they want to have their cake and eat it too
"artistic criticism"
@@katobytes No they want their cake, and everyone elses cake, beause if someone else got cake that somehow means they can't have any more cake and they want to eat ALL of the cake, not just theirs.
This reminds me of when I took art classes in university, and students would get really upset during critiques because they saw it as a personal insult to their work. Criticism is meant to help artists improve their craft by seeing it from another's perspective. Gamers need to realize that criticism isn't destroying the medium, but allowing it to grow.
Interesting, as a band nerd who is attempting to get a music degree I don't really see any of this, even for solo juries. I'm wondering if there's any systemic difference that would cause art majors to be more likely than music majors (like possibly the fact that musicians have to lean on each other for basically everything), or if it's just that the people drawn to both fields are influenced by the people present in each field (like how woodwinds have higher f:m ratios of incoming members than brass because of gender associations), or if it is the same and I'm just missing it on the music end of things..
@@firebrain2991 I'm studying at an art school. The way I see the difference is that music majors are often practicing a quantifiable skill, ie how well they play their instrument, how quickly they can pick up new scores, etc. A lot of visual arts students are not only critiqued on their skill within their medium of choice, but also on their style choices, the subject matter, their "taste" level. These are things which are much more subjective and often deeply personal, and although I think it's super important to receive critique on these aspects of your work when you're an artist, I think that's what can cause people to get defensive. Of course this doesn't count for music studies where composing is part of the curriculum, and I might be naively assuming wrong what things music students are judged on. I'm curious if this seems to make sense to you though! :)
@@firebrain2991 Adding onto this, many of the art projects we get critiqted on, because I'm in higher level classes, are graded on the execution of the concept as well as its aesthetics. Art pieces that say something with ALL parts of it are the ones that tend to do really well.
For example, if your concept is a critique of consumer culture through the medium of painting, a well-rendered painting on canvas might not do as well as a decently-rendered painting on candy wrappers stuck together. In the second painting, both the subject of the painting and the medium itself contribute to making your point.
But that's for the more conceptual pieces. When art is being judged on purely on execution, like a figure drawing, you've been with the piece for hours and all you can see are the mistakes. Seeing those same mistakes pointed out and more you didn't even catch can be demoralizing to say the least.
I guess to try to make a comparison to a musical preformance, it would be as if not only your musical ability was being judged, but also things like your posture and how quietly you flip the pages. It wouldn't be "how good this song can be preformed", it would be "how well does your preformance convey the emotion of the piece" if that makes sense. Art is intrinsicly personal, a little piece of yourself, which is why critiques can really hurt.
@@nightandfayeify adding onto this as another music major - a low brass player and bass singer. Although instrumentalists generally take criticism pretty well, vocalists are much more touchy, for much the same reasons listed here for visual arts. When your singing is critiqued, it’s not just your skill at singing that can be critiqued. It can be your facial expressions, the shape of your mouth, your interpretation and style choices in your genre (generally classical art songs, opera arias, jazz, and musical theatre). Plus, if someone criticizes your tone, that’s YOUR voice, not an instrument. What if they also don’t like your speaking voice? What if simply talking to people annoys them cuz of your voice???
In instrumental music there is a more apparent cultural sensitivity to criticism rather than an individual sensitivity. Imagine the outrage if someone discard Brahms, Mozart, Beethoven, Purcell, ect ect and said their writing was basic or too on the nose or whatever? Music education takes these peoples’ near deity-status as a given, and any time someone’s like “hey maybe we should actually teach more modern music, like Count Basie and stuff, with the same focus and care?” White supremacists come out of the woodwork to spout vapid defenses of the old by delegitimizing the new (see Adam Neely’s video on white supremacy).
Not an art major, but I did take a drawing (DRAW 101, Intro to Drawing) course as an elective once. The TA for the course said "a lot of these look like they were drawn by middle schoolers."
Some critique right there lmao... most of the people in the class weren't even art majors
Poor dean Takahashi, he is something everyone strive to be, self improving and rather humorous about his shortcomings. And still valuing a chellange, even if he sucks initially.
This is the whole Anti-SJW movement in a nutshell. Being offended by things that never happened.
I find it ironic that these people complain about people being too easily offended when they get offended by just about anything.
Luke Beauchamp yah anti-sjws will literally send you death threats
if you’re a feminist
some of what the anti-sjw movement is against is real. there are excesses by the left/social justice crowd that should be checked. However, that nugget of legitimacy is buried in exaggeration, demonization, and yes, a lot of fake outrage.
I just want to make sure we acknowledge the legitimate issues at the heart of toxic movements, because denying the kernels of truth only further legitimizes the movement in the eyes of its followers and moderate outsiders.
I see you have met my father
@@andrewdussault2315 this is a very thoughtful opinion I did not think of it that way before
@@andrewdussault2315 "some of what the anti-sjw movement is against is real. there are excesses by the left/social justice crowd that should be checked"
not really. Just because there are a couple videos on the internet with pale skin and purple/pink haired schizophrenic femi-nazis screaming at the top of their lungs about whatever doesn't mean that are "excesses" of the "SJW's. and leftist lipbtards"
Conservatist ideology supporters are the ones that are complaining and screaming at the top of their lungs about whatever. The "SJWS ARE RUINING MY VIBEO GAMEEEEES/ STAR WARRRS/STARK TREEEK/(INSERT POPULAR IP OR ART MEDIUM HERE)" is a daily and a very, very common occurrence on the internet.
I cringe thinking how I used to eat this Anti-sjw nonsense all the time. Ich.
zillafire101 the fact you noticed you were wrong or thinking about things in an unhealthy or even damaging way means you shouldn't be too hard on yourself. By all means remember and keep in mind even on the left we can be susceptible to some of the same things, I mean confirmation bias not ya know... Nazis. But you did something alot of people are too scared to do well into their lives. Introspection. For that you should be proud
Omg. These comments are too pure for me.
Yeah I agree. The problem is I have trouble associating with communities like this one on Shaun's channel. I feel like both sides are just so unreasonable most of the time.
Some of it had merit, to be truthful. There is some fishy stuff going on in journalism, etc, but people have gone crazy with seeing "SJW' monsters everywhere. Even in stuff that is barely affected by it.
eartianwerewolf Yeah, but can't let these people paint the entire Feminist movement as a bunch of free speech silencing idiots.
The real issue is why anyone would drink out of a coffee cup with a straw.
Bluehawk2008 is it iced coffee?
Soda is actually amazing like that. Porcelain insulates well.
hey! the dentist said I should.
bendy straw in coffee go brrrr >:)
Sour Punch Straw
The full version of “fuck your feelings” is actually “fuck your feelings, coddle mine”
I remember when I told a friend of mine I prefer games with at least the option of a female protagonist. He said "Oh you're one of THOSE people" and I explained to him that while I enjoy games with male protagonists, it's hard to immerse myself in the game. I'm glad he listened but most on the internet would have called me an SJW and ignore my argument entirely.
That would be cool
Obnoxious
@Reflet I think thats the difference between playing a character, and playing an avatar. I'm not a Metroid fan, but Samus as a character is pretty iconic in her own right (and I'm pretty sure a good chunk of her iconic-ness, at least from the outside, seems to be that she WAS, unexpectedly, a woman). But if you're playing a game where the main character is supposed to be you, the player-- idk my first thought was Pokémon, back in the old days when playing as a girl was new-- that's a huge thing for people who look at the guy sprite and think "wtf I am nothing like this human, I don't even feel right giving him my feminine name."
Omg these people exist outside of the net? Bruh that’s crazy, but honestly i hope he changed for the better or you now have better friends
The nice thing about customizable characters is that you can play as a female protagonist who isn't written weirdly
Anti-SJWs consider any kind of critique put forth by progressives as “SJW outrage” it seems.
Some, but not all of them. However, most of them that consider themselves "Anti-SJWs" probably do think like that.
You see a lot of that. It's the whole "You're SO TRIGGERED!" thing (which has devalued the valid and important concept of trigger warnings to the point of near unusability). "Feminists are literally made of boiling acid!" "...That's plainly not true, and it's kind of stupid to think that." "GOD I TROLLED YOU SO HARD YOU'RE SO TRIGGERED YOU'RE SO MAD"
This is also why they were able to read that article a being critical in the first place : multiple viewpoints is giving weight to something other than their viewpoint, and that is just as bad as silencing them. Their entire thing is wanting to be the only voice, and got upset at journalists saying anything else at all.
IMAGINE MY SHOOOOCK! 😂
TheLaxLex you can trick these guys into defending Metroid other M by saying that Samus was a sexualised damsel in distress in that game (which she kinda was like holy shit man)
Whenever people make up fake people yelling ablism, it makes it harder for me (a disabled person) to be taken seriously when I point out actual ablism. It's gotten to the point where people think I'm making up my disabilities just so I can get mad at something. People just don't take disabled people seriously, either because they are disabled or because they are 'making it up'. Just mote excuses to be ablist
vergak your 100% correct
I'm deaf in one ear, so I can't fully experience a game which has a mechanic with surround sound. Like a horror game with a monster hunting you, for example. I'll still enjoy the game though and why do right-wingers think I want to stop their enjoyment of it? It's ludicrous.
@Soviet who Cuts That is... none of your business...
I relate, OP :( sorry you have to deal with that too
I'm so confused by the reveal at 15:39. Did the dude literally forget about his own previous opinions or something? And not only forget but then become a direct opponent of them?
Reactionaries sometimes have so little ground to stand on that they have to outright invent imaginary people who they can actually win an argument against.
"Sometimes", how generous of you.
Reactionaries never have ground to stand on. If a group has grounds to be upset, that’s not reactionary, it’s protest.
The irony here is the hatred towards sjw is that they are overly sensitive, yet the very same people are so sensitive they can't even be bothered to read the article to get triggered.
SHEAR POTTERY
The triggered broflake is the most sensitive delicate creature ever to crap its collective diapers. "anti-sjws" are an embarrassment to their species.
You're right, theyre just the same sloppy generation of modern conformists. They are deeply sensitive and upset because they dont look inside themselves for anything at all, and take on a persona of interests which is usually the slop entertainment and hivemind culture around it. They are shrieking runts because they cant begin to have an adult conversation why their persona of interests, much less the behavior and idea of self it holds up, could be problematic, and both sides use the same toxic verbal abuse depending on the situation
I feel sooo badly for their moms
@@enkidude Bro, it's been 2 years since this comment, but I have to tell you that you express your thoughts very well in written form
The anti-gambling message of Cuphead might seem to be referencing Jazz Age racist cartoons but clearly it's
a criticism of lootboxes.
Every time I come back to this video, the revelation that Ian Miles Cheong pointed out Cuphead's problematic throwbacks years before "SJWs" hits me like a ton of bricks.
What are the problematics throwbacks?
@@yulimartorrealba5851its in the video
I've never seen a group getting as easily mad and triggered as these anti-sjw gamers.
Yet we are snowflakes...
Oh boy, don't read the comments section under any news or sports article then.
and they have the audacity to call us snowflakes and say _we're_ the triggered ones :/
What even is that 'terminal illness' skit? I can't even figure out how he's got there. What are games journalists supposed to do? Start curing cancer?
I think he was trying to say that games journalists' complaints about games are barely tangible at best, and hardly hold up to something as important as someone dying of cancer. Basically:
{Strawman: OMGs! Cuphead is racist and ableist!
Cancer Patient: But I've got cancer!
Strawman: That can wait, clearly Cuphead being racist and difficult is the bigger issue!}
You know, whataboutism and all that.
It's a really common tactic that tries to make an argument look bad without actually engaging with it, by saying that if you were a dick about it, you would be a dick about it. Another example of it would be the people defend Pokemon Sword and Shield by saying that if you said the criticisms of it to a child, you'd be a dick, even though that's a strawman because no one's doing that. (I'm sure there's a non-zero percent of people who have done that but it's not a representation of the whole nor does it invalidate the arguments)
It really similar to the "first world problems" argument, why do you care about X when unrelated issue Y is worse.
Basically, the world has big problems, so you should ignore the small ones. Even if fixing the small ones wouldn't detract from the big ones in any way. Even if I don't want to personally do anything about the big ones. Just don't talk about anything that won't directly and immediately kill somebody.
@@timothymclean To translate: "your problems are stupid shut up please"
I wish our problems were cataclysmic enough to talk about, I'm jelly.
Hi. It’s me your friendly neighborhood chronically ill, significantly disabled gamer. I personally super appreciate games journalists including us in their conversations. It helps me know what games I can or cannot enjoy, and I think it has encouraged developers to include more accessibility features and to explore different innovative approaches to game difficulty, allowing games to hit their target difficultly and intended experience without unnecessarily excluding people like me. Would I love it if someone suddenly discovered a cure to my rare, devastating genetic disorder? Yes, but it’s unlikely in my lifetime. In the mean time, hot damn I really want to play some good video games. Maybe if these “angry gamers” took a minute to talk one of the people they use in their straw man arguments, they would find most of us think this is in general, a good thing for us and the world.
Hey Shaun! You probably won’t read this in the sea of comments, but I noticed your videos don’t have closed captions (well, they have auto-generated CCs which are infamously bad especially when it comes to non-American English), and I was hoping I could fix that. There’s an option to allow community-written closed captions on your videos, and if you turn that on you videos would be much more likely to be accessed by a wider array of people. This doesn’t just include English- other people can add subtitles of different languages. Just thought you would be interested!
Alison Thimmesch hey lets boost this!
Yas! Boost!
oo yes please
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People are still spreading misinformation about the Dean Takahashi thing in 2022. The gamers still think it actually happened. 😔
didn't it?? the guy sucked sh*t from a straw
Controversial opinion that shouldn't be controversial:
Saying a games journalist can't do their job properly because he's not great at one particular (very hard) game is stupid. It's like saying a literary critic is bad at their job because of how long it took them to finish reading Ulysses.
Well, that's the thing. If the literary critic didn't actually finish Ulysses, it's hard for them to write about it. I've seen many gaming journalists entirely misrepresent games I've sunk countless hours in and that I know in and out, simply because they're going off of sparse experience. I know that some games are long or hard, but if you're going to bother to give your opinion on it, at least make sure it's well founded. That's what I say, anyways.
Sylvester G Harold Perhaps, but this wasn’t the case here, and it’s monetarily impossible for games journalists to explore every part of a game. A good book takes perhaps a dozen hours to complete, a good game can take upwards of a hundred even before you add in side-quests. In my opinion (and this is pure opinion) the onus is on you, the reader, to take the reviewer’s opinion as their truth, knowing that they were forced to rush through. Don’t get angry at them, just acknowledge that reviews are imperfect, it’s impossible for someone to perfectly describe a game to you before you play it, and move on. Admittedly, not that I play that many games or read that many reviews, but several of the ones I have read have noted at some point in the article that they either ignored the side quests or didn’t finish the main story. I think that also show’s Shaun’s poiny about people not understanding how to read. Reading has context, and doesn’t impart unfiltered truth.
Yeah, but this is more akin to a book critic not being able to read or not understanding very basic vocabulary words.
@@sylvestergharold7265 Did you listen to this part of the video? 6:44
@@cathsaigh2197 I did indeed. This isn't about this particular cuphead run, though. I was speaking more generally, to games journalism as a whole. As to address earlier counter points, I do agree that it is impossible for them to 100% complete every game, or even complete them 50%. It's to be expected that sometimes they misrepresent the games, as a result. However, that doesn't excuse the fact that they're still giving what is essentially misinformation. I wouldn't want my book reviews to be faulty due to the fact that I didn't experience all that the story had to offer.
The ultimate irony of Alpha Omega Sin is that he loves Persona. A game series where you play as literal warriors of social justice and progress.
Can you explain because I thought persona was about stoping the world from falling in utter chaos.
Do you honestly think he actually cares enough about games to realize that?
Well, real enemies can actually push back so fighting the made up ones is so much better.
Dan Morgan Peta
Perhaps they felt that real enemies are "exclusionary."
I thought they were all about a challenge since HARD games is what they are all about. Interesting...
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342
It's like the guy in highschool that was always so proud to be the best at games, and then you watched him in the arcade and he kept slamming in quarters.
Disappointing sight!
My eyes are slowly being opened to the fact that my view of Gamers (tm) as just guys who don't like women in video games was the tip of a goddamn iceberg
Well, more and more women started playing mainstream multiplayer videogames, prime examples being Valorant and League of legends. With both sexes becoming more balanced in the scene, mysoginy will become less
They don't care about women in video games as long as they stick to gaming against each other, it seems. The field of professional gaming follows the route of traditional sports: standardized by every other means but somehow still unequal due to "financing issues".
@@lukebrainmanwhat a naive thing to say lol
Omg poor Dean. He was self-deprecating and was still attacked as if people thought he was claiming to be good at it
why do these people always "rant", why are they so angry all the time. and what do people get out of subscribing to someone whos entire joke is "screams at camera very loud"
I think it might be their testosterone pills.
They're Status Quo Warriors, ironically they get "triggered" just as much as the SJWs they make fun of
except for the fact, that "triggered" (I fucking despise that word in contexts like that) SJWs are not really a wide-spread phenomenon while nearly all of these people make their living out of spitting and screaming their disgust at their screens. If it weren't so sad, it would be kinda funny.
They rant because that's one way of getting more views for their rant videos. What the subscribers get out of it is their own satisfaction of being angry. Example: The Dark Tower
"these people", "always"...did you even watch the video? You are adapting the exact behavior that is beeing critizised by shaun. You are literally the person you are ranting about.
i swear these reactionaries literally argue against cardboard cutouts..lol
More like cardboard cutouts arguing against imaginary people.
Yeah these people are the worst
THESE PEOPLE
THEY
Just because someone puts an feminist, historical or even a generally critical analysis on to something doesn’t always means there is a sudden declaration that person is claiming it’s bad. It’s pinning down a point to think about it based from a particular kind of thinking.
I think the AlphaOmegaSin guy deleted his video. I wonder if it was because of Shaun
"Alot of people online simply don't know how to read properly." Welcome to the internet.
anyone who uses the word "social justice warrior" seriously should be laughed out of existence
Is it okay if I self-identify as an SJW
@@michaels70171 But it isn't meant to be positive, an activist is basically and sjw but with a positive connotation and sjw is a negative connotation.
@@dontgotovideos5560 I was told that SJW was originally a positive term
Sarah D Don’t use it as a positive in any online argument, it is practically suicide
Okay social justice warrior
I’m an animator and I studied animation history in school. As a genuine lover of old animation and the origins of hand drawn...I honestly full heartedly agree with the racist reading of the style of animation used in cuphead. If you want to be a part of an artistic tradition: whether it’s film or animation or music or painting, it’s important to understand the history and it’s problematic aspects as well as it’s triumphs. What people don’t want to understand is you can like cuphead, you can like classic animation, but you can also criticize it.
Thanks for your perspective
No
@@user-lp7tx1fe6t facts don’t care about your feelings?
I’m very curious to know what you consider racist about the animation.
@@Raspieberry I feel like the problems with the cuphead inspirations was very well explained in the video.
One minor counterpoint to an otherwise strong video: King Dice, to me, is very clearly modelled on the black bandleader, singer and impresario Cab Calloway, from his demeanour to his dress sense and facial hair; Calloway and his band also famously performed his song "Minnie the Moocher" in a very early Betty Boop cartoon, a sequence which was hugely important for a number of reasons, not the least being that it was one of the first sound cartoons *and* soundtracked by black performers. (The song in question is also a dark, dark story about gambling addiction and basically a dirge.) While many of the tropes taken on by the designers of Cuphead do have some dubious overtones, I feel like that's one of the more respectful nods, although I do think it could have been more carefully handled perhaps.
I appreciate this take! I can see what you mean about the apparent omage to Mr. Calloway. I think it fits nicely with the general persona and character that King Dice plays.
King Dice was created by a black person Joseph Coleman and his literal art is in the thumbnail
a "walking simulator about lesbians" would be nice though
Would you Go Home to play it?
i sure would!
I would love it
I'd play it
Big fax, when someone makes one I'm def gonna be there at the release
That AlphaOmegaSin is so cringe to watch
I can't help but skip over whenever anyone includes clips like that.
and i mean...his name is AlphaOmegaSin
he was the only reason i knew gamer gate was a thing and i bought into it at the time, so it's horrific to hear his voice again
@@joebeard4498 IDK what would be worse to revist; him or that other guy Rags.
Did anyone notice that AlphaOmegaSin’s video is unavailable now?
I've been a gamer my whole life and I really hate how angsty some people are getting about the simple act of making some games more inclusive. Games journalism isn't the problem.
The most ironic thing about anti-sjws is that each and every single trait they ascribe to sjws is far more appropriate when ascribed to them. Psychological projection at its finest.
What's the phrase? "Sargon's law applies to Sargon's law."
wow I missed all that 'controversy'. The lack of self awareness is just... astounding... they're literally complaining about manufactured outrage with manufactured outrage, except that what they're complaining about doesn't exist? It's like they've transformed into their own self-constructed stereotype
4:31 Something about a person getting mad at SJWs while talking about how much they like Borderlands 2 feels ironic in a way I can't quite put my finger on
Orbital Frame that game written by that anti-Skub SJW brown person?
Orbital Frame is it because of Mikey?
AlphaOmegaSin getting unreasonably angry while the cup head music plays in the background is high comedy
People: "Dude, I think this thing that has some weird implications could have been better executed"
Anti-SJWs: "ThEsE sJwS aRe So EaSiLy OfFeNd"
My soul left my body when I found out there are still gamergaters in 2017
Let me tell you about the dark days of *now-
Let me tell you about 2019
Boy oh boy, 2020 and they’re still there
@SpursFan214 Some scuffles on twitter, Peter Coffin and Jack Saint got involved, nothing actually interesting, just the ususal old rubbish.
They still exist in 2020
Theres nothing wrong with difficult games
Theres nothing wrong with easy games
Carson Reddick exactly. It’s all about having fun. What one person might like might be totally different from what someone else likes, and that’s ok.
But if walking simulators are OK and people who play them get to come into the gamer clubhouse, how will I feel special for beating Dark Souls in three hours?
I use a walkthrough for almost every game I play because I hate the idea of wandering around not knowing what to do. And I still love all the games I play! My friend, on the other hand, loves open world games that you have to play multiple times to get all the info, and she doesn’t use a walkthrough. Both are fine!
@@timothymclean Simple; join the "beating Dark Souls in three hours" club.
Unless you're one of those dummies who like Cuphead >:(((((((((((((((((
... God dammit.
I remember this. I was a shithead in college and wound up on the wrong side of this fake controversy. I didn't even know the whole thing was fake.
I wish I found this video then, it might have saved me a year or so of guilt.
I swear, gamers are the most fragile community.
Yup, it's frustrating how they're always picking out fringe lunatics and the abject silliest controversies as a justification to generalize entire groups
Well you know, there’s different gamer communities. Mobile gamers, console gamers, pc gamers, and there are countless sub groups within them. I never like it when people generalize gamers as whole and connect them all to the cringy anti sjws just because both of them enjoy games, not counting the differences in view points.
Only the boy gamers. The rest of us are normal and just want to have fun
@@Lauren-rl4eu no offense but you saying all boy gamers are not normal and fun is dishonest and very overgeneralizing
@@Lauren-rl4eu only female gamers are normal? If you think girls don’t get annoyed by stupid shit in some of these communities you haven’t played enough games.
I will never forgive you for bringing back my terrible memories of AlphaOmegaSin. I've spent at least two years trying to forget about his existence
AlphaOmegaSin, from what I've watched of him, is one of those horrible UA-camrs that jumps on a bandwagon of hatred (the Nintendo fangame thingy, the Assassin's Creed Unity thingy) and spews a lot of words and anger and bull manure to much fanfare and little effect.
In other words, he's like quite a few other UA-camrs in the gaming news niche. And that's just depressing.
AlphaOmegaSin
I...always wondered why I never actually saw anyone outside a few 'real' tumblr posts saying cuphead was racist. Thanks for going in depth on this stuff, Shaun, You're one of my favorite channels as of late.
Maybe the real, “these people”, was the friends we made along the way
Honestly the series of tweets that show the three people discussing cupheads artstyle seem so much more level headed and approachable than the dude who was retweeting it lol.
Funny enough, I try and explain to people on Chrisraygun's vid that critics are not decrying Cuphead as racist but decrying Cuphead for taking influence from racist media (which I don't think is problematic). Then I get told I'm definitely an SJW even though I don't think the developers of Cuphead are racist for borrowing elements from rubberhose animated cartoons that were racist because I consider Cuphead's use of those elements transformative.
Doesn't matter how much I try to explain that I don't think Cuphead is neither racist nor problematic, I have to be an SJW who disagrees with them because I'm not outraged about SJWs. I must submit and fit into the SJW box for disagreeing!
That'll show me for rattling the hornet's nest.
Yeah chris video is basically: I have read the headline of the article, thats enough for me.
Fucking unbelievable, gotta love how people go” hey chris ray guns realky smart, look at him argue about feminists when their not crying out
@GutsGetter I see the Cuphead developers take elements from racist cartoons, similar to a director taking technical elements from the movie "Birth of a Nation" for their movie. What I mean by technical is, the special effects they used, or the cinematography they used. It's not racist to me at all to do that. As long as you leave the garbage out.
ChambleeShow- True, but how can a person do that when the racists caricatures are such a big influence on these mediums that it’s nearly inseparable? I used to some art based of these cartoons because I grew up watching them(even the racists ones) and also because I found the character tar baby adorable. Even though I’m black and I thought it was normal my siblings were weirded out. Although I was at first defensive I began to think,”What makes their reaction less valid than mine?”
don't worry spartacus, they are just oppresors
This video reminded me that I'm still subbed to AlphaOmegaSin even I haven't watched him in like 2+ years. Thanks for reminding me to unsub from that guy, Shaun.
SilvarusLupus I'd never even heard of him, this was not a good first impression; don't think I'll be watching more from him.
I tried to watch the video of him, that is in the description, but i think he deleted it. He probably realized that people saw thru his bullshit.
I used to really like his videos, maybe because we had similar taste in video games and he'd talk about stuff I liked. But eventually it became more and more about angry anti-SJW conspiracy theories, and spouting vitriol, and I just lost interest. Not only did it make for crappy videos, but as someone who also avidly paid attention to the gaming sphere, I was acutely aware of how shallow and mistaken his analysis of events was.
Yeah I was subbed to him for some time pre-#gamergate. I felt like he became really insufferable during and after. Maybe he was always like that idk, I only really remember the sjw rants at this point
Well said Living Legend. I too felt the same way about a few youtubers I used to watch who did gaming videos. They often make a lot of good points. Which games are good... Which companies are greedy... Etc etc... But they also say some really stupid shit and hypocritical shit. In the end you weigh the good with the bad and the bad won so you had to stop supporting them... Sucks but that's how it goes...
>Epilepsy
>I might just lose control
Didn't Joy Division do a song about that?
hotelmario510 if I remember correctly, the lead singer was known to have epileptic seizures during shows. Some people would go just to see if he'd have one.
Yup.
So embarrassingly enough, I used to fall for shit like this. I was primed to expect the next “SJW shitstorm” so if you said “feminists wanted to ban Zelda because it’s sexist, I would’ve believed you and would’ve taken to Twitter to complain about this “ultra-pc SJW-dominated world”. Ugh I was insufferable. I mean I still am but for other reasons.
I witnessed this fake outrage in action when on Reddit someone made a post about how men are really oppressed and women are the oppressors. Poster claimed he received death threats and horrible messages as a result. People in the thread were all in agreement about how horrible feminists are and how brave the OP was for posting what he did. Within the thread were heavily downvoted comments calling him a liar, so I tried a different tactic. Laughed along and asked to see screenshots so we could all laugh. Suddenly the OP went dead silent on the thread. My comment was the only one he hadn’t responded to. People began to join in asking for screenshots and before you knew it, the post was deleted. So basically if you want to call these people out, play along and ask for screenshots not in a way that shows you don’t believe them, but in a way that sounds like you want to laugh along. This is just one experience I’ve had using this method. It works surprisingly well. Oh and if I can find screenshots proving the story I just told you, I will add them in an edit.
“OMG DUDE can I have screenshots?? That shit is soo funny to me!”
…
“Dude?”
*post deleted*
This is the Cuphead of UA-cam channels.
Dark Souls is the Shaun and Jen of Cuphead
Top Pupperanian This comment is the Dark Souls of cup-shapes anthromorphic people
HOLY SHIT GHOST TRICK AVATAR!
Sorry, it's just that this game is so underappreciated. It's like christmas morning whenever I see someone who acknowledges its existence.
This is the TOP POMERANIAN of youtube comments.
Lmao
oh man when you faded in the reveal that ian "inches" cheong posted i nearly shat myself
what a slug
Top 10 Anime Plot Twists
slug vs ants
He didn't mention it in the video, but Ian was a big progressive back then and was being constantly pressured by people in those groups, and had a change in heart later that year or in 2015 I think
I mean, you can read all you want into his motivations for doing so, but not being willing to believe someone can change their mind on something over the course of 3 years all because you have a grudge against them for saying things you don't like just kinda makes you a toxic asshole
It is a little weird that they were calling him a Nazi, but when Tauriq Moosa (sp?) criticized Witcher 3, he joined up with the people who were insulting him.
Lazypackmule Ian's progressive streak was just a facade he put up because he thought it would further his career. It didn't work.
I'd like to add a couple of examples.
Mass Effect: Andromeda
Claim: "SJWs are ruining my games".
That's really happened: Troubled development history, new game engine lacking important features, major game rescopes -> most development were done in last 2 years -> timelines for writers, animators and testers shifted to the very end, hence poor quality of the final product. Gator folks blamed a number of individuals among people working at BioWare, "SJWs", for ruining "their" game.
Among them a motion capture actress, who was misrepresented as the lead animator. I'm not sure if the twitter message presented as confirmation was legit, but she was not.
A writer, who happened to be a woman and a feminist (the horror!). Writing is done by a team of people, it's 5-10 people. We know that it had a number of writers from ME3, what we don't know is how much she contributed and what parts. She was hired relatively late.
And the guy, Manveer Heir one of the developers, who was misrepresented as a manager who forced "diversity hires" and hence ruined the game. One of a few brown guys on the project, of course, wasn't a manager, on the project, nor he was in a position to force hires, an easily verifiable fact. I tried to explain that to one gater guy, presented the evidence, a (strikingly white) photo of development team & the managers. He kept grasping at straws, trying to find an excuse to still blame him.
PUBG
Claim: "Some girls complained about a shirts model with camel toe, PUBG apologised and fixed that, therefore SJWs are distracting PUBG from real issues like improving the networking code. SJWs are ruining my games."
Engine development and 3D design is done by different people. Given the fact that selling skins is PUBG's business model they likely have an entire team of 3D designers. People didn't like something, they spoke out, they got it fixed. No harm is done.
It's easier to blame imaginary things then to point the blame at the real things that will include you among them.
Did PUBG fail because of "SJWs," or because the devs took lessons from EA when it came to monetization?
Yeah these skeptics sure don't let feelings lead them to their conclusions...
I'm an animator and I really like the animation style of Cuphead - but I acknowledge the roots of it that are wrapped up in racist disgust.
Also that terminal illness thing happened to my Dad. He died in late July, leaving my mother and I with grief and financial turmoil, but I still found a moment to agree that Cuphead is problematic in some ways. People think about lots of things, I REALLY don't get the comparison. That guy is a fuckhead.
It's the latest evolution of "#firstworldproblems". Can't actually argue a point? Imply that it's a moot one anyway because oh look over here, there's people dealing with far worse things than being "loltiggered" over "made up fake sjw anti-free-speech problems" or whatever new buzzwords they've designed.
Personally, as someone whose friend routinely denied herself the right to vent to others or lean on them for moral/emotional support for those very reasons, fuck people who use this argument. It's garbage, and exists solely to justify refusing to acknowledge someone.
AlphaOmegaSin is one of those gaming channels I am kinda embarrassed that I had ever subscribed to. He was a long line of channels that became ruined by obsessing over Anita Sarkeesian and calling everything "SJW".
Forced to reevaluate his channel, I realized that his content was fairly mediocre. A lot of his videos come off as unscripted rants that are highly repetitious. Sure, he name-dropped some great games, and he has an impressive collection, but he really lacks the intelligence and critical vocabulary to articulate what makes a game good or bad.
I used to sub to him too. Agreed with him completely about many things in gaming.
We both hate EA for being super greedy and making broken games.
We both hate quick time events as they don't add anything very interesting to game play "Press A to beat the game"
We both agree that super man 64 is trash lol.
But..... That being said........ He's still a horrible person. Mainly because of the stuff you just mentioned David Torre. Lol my name is David too.
I saw him also say some silly things like how he thought xbox one did the best at E3 in 2017. UHHH NO! lol. PS4 is killing xbox one.
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 I read "Superman 64" as "Super Mario 64"
What’s wrong with unscripted rants?
The plot twist of Ian Miles Cheong being one of the earliest critics of Cuphead's artstyle is amazing
i was genuinely taken aback
Also there is debate about whether Cuphead is Ablest or not, not, surprisingly because of it's difficulty level but of visual and GUI elements that made it hard to decipher for players with certain visual or reading conditions. Game Maker's Toolkit has an excellent series on Designing for Disability in games that touches on this issue (spanning all games, not just Cuphead)
Watch out mate, you're messin' with the Gamers™!!!
Also does AlphaOmegaSin frequently go up to people on their death bed and complain about his problems? In what world does anyone do this???
Right? Even if that scenario magically did pop up... No one would talk like that to sick folks. They would shut their mouths and feel bad about their troubles. Even guys like trump would know their place in a situation like that.
it's frustrating to see conversations of video games get polluted by all these cries of "SJWS ARE RUINING GAMES". we're missing out on good discussions about game design and cultural portrayals.
shaun completely decimating an argument by pointing out the other side’s inability to read boosts my hp every time (see lauren southern, sargan, etc.)
Literally came over here from the Doom Outrage video because it showed up in my recommended videos and I really don't remember there being any "outrage" about Cuphead so this is gonna be good
Also, want to point out the Game Grumps relayed the same fake accusation about people calling Mario Oddesey Racist for the Sombrero hat when in reality there was only ever one tweet and it just said "it would be nice if we stopped doing this", to which Breitbart, The daily caller, and the blaze all wrote articles about it.
Honestly this fake hardcore vs casual ooo look at me I play dark souls all these walking simulators trend made me quit gaming.
It's just so boring.
I mean, wouldn't most games be walking simulators?
It's so funny how Shaun needs to repeatedly stress that he isn't attacking Cuphead. It won't actually work, of course, because as the video shows, conservatives will just make up something to be mad about, but you've always got to try, just in case. Sort of like when a kid is on the verge of a tantrum and the parent is trying to talk them down from it.
used to watch alphaomegasin in high school. seeing him now after many years removed, its hard to ignore how reactionary he is and how his whole “rant” structure is no different than tucker carlson or sean hannity talking out of their asses to get their audience angered.
It was really hard to watch the AlphaOmegaSin bits. Watching someone who obviously hasn't acquainted himself with the "controversy" get needlessly worked up about something he could just as easily ignore is horribly cringeworthy. That's the anti-sjws for ya though.
and sadly when we call him out on that, his fantards get angry.
I'd be down for a walking simulator with lesbians lol
AlwaysGonnaSing Life is Strange sort of fits that if you squint
He’s referencing Gone Home. It’s a really great game, absolutely recommend it.
Yes, "walking".
I'll be walking with one hand holding my joystick
oh i thought you meant overwatch :/
I came across a Polygon's video about Sekiro's difficulty where a bunch of people voice their opinions for and against having an easier mode. It didn't present any conclusion to the question and was purely speculative in nature. And holy shit did gamers hate the very idea of an easy mode. The comment section pretty much consisted of "How dare Mr. Polygon even suggest such blasphemy? Someone needs do pay with their blood for this!"
It's weird. If the 'Gamers' hate easy games so much, why don't they just play it on Hard Mode? It's almost as if that's not their reason for the argument at all, & they are actually looking for an excuse to gatekeep...
Kind of insane how cuphead's devs were like "we got rid of the garbage!" but kept the capitalist propaganda about poverty being 1) caused by gambling and 2) a moral failing of the poor
"That was before the ant colony decided to nest in his head, I guess." That is brilliant, and I'm going to henceforth use it in casual conversation, even if the context doesn't call for it.
Cuphead drama is obviously a reverberation of the gamergate drama which was just a overzealous culture war. The only thing being pushed here is the narrative that games journalists aren't real gamers and shouldn't have influence in the games industry.
To be fair, it's very hard to take the opinion of someone who has trouble finishing a tutorial seriously. Basic dexterity and understanding of mechanics should be a bare minimum requirement in the job description.
@@PSspecialist True, but that was a single guy, hardly a representative of all games journalists, though these angry shouty men on the internet would have you believe otherwise
@@flossimoth I had probably made that comment before even watching Shaun's video having some pre conceived notions about that whole situation. Something I had found out much later was that, originally, Dean didn't even want to upload the gameplay video thinking it was worthless and it was his co-workers that nudged him to do it because they thought it'd be funny. I was flabbergasted when I realised the same people who ridicule folks for not having a sense of humour got so upset over a joke gameplay video that wasn't even aimed at their expense! I also felt ashamed that I fell for their rhetoric even though I should have known better. (didn't send the guy death threats over it though, Jesus)
I still stand by what I said that reviewers should be skilled at games but I realize now how pointless that statement is because... they are! No one is saying that they shouldn't be!
@@PSspecialist Haha, very true. it can be easy to fall for that type of rhetoric because it takes a lot more research and effort to find the truth than it does for them to throw out such attacks. having to be on guard all the time is exhausting, and I don't blame you for falling for it. I likely would have too, if my first exposure to this whole thing wasn't from people refuting said rhetoric. also, I din't know that he didn't want to upload it originally, that's interesting! poor guy got his original intent twisted around so badly that even people who would have been understanding got misled into hating him
Kind of weird revisiting this controversy, since I myself was a part of that anti-SJW crowd back then. Now in 2022 I'm a leftist and I feel like I was denied so many important details about stories like this back in 2017....
I've seen hundreds of comments just like you and, tbh, I'm surprised that some grown ass people were actually convinced by this crowd (and still do) when they were either 16 or 30 or whatever.
I'm 13 and I never went through that phase, i didnt even know this side of youtube existed till a year ago. I think it's silly that so many people got pursuded by them.
But it might be because I'm a girl and the anti-SJW crowd doesn't try to cater to me, I suppose. Still baffles me though
@@metropunklitan That was the culture of youtube back then and it was hard finding any other perspectives. The edgyness was also appealing to me. I was like 14 back then.
@@metropunklitan for context, I'm 17 and a full-on leftie trans lady who at age 11-13 was a racist PewDiePie fan who hated "da SJWs!!"
A couple of years ago, popular internet media was hardly pushed towards the alt right. And still is. So many children got indoctrinated into the "I don't care how you feel" ideology and some have never gotten out. The internet didn't breed a generation of snowflakes, it breeded a generation doomed to fall into the same failures as the previous gen x.
As someone who is very good friends with "the SJW scene" literally everyone there was talking about how great cup head is, including several friends LPing or Streaming it.
I'm offended that you would associate Miles "Tails" Prower with that Ian Chong joker. Apologise to our fine foxy friend immediately.
Hi I'm from the future. You've hit the nail on the head when you said "Ian Chong joker" since joker is pretty much synonymous with his type.
Tails is awesome
I literally saw NO ONE losing it at cuphead, not even the people I consider "irrational leftists" said a damned thing. I feel like this dude saw a troll or some random off the handle person in a comment? or tweet? and thought it must've been a trend he could latch onto. Which not only does that show how desperate for clicks he and others like him are, but also how little the commenters and audience to do any actual research or bother looking into anything.
Ok does that person with epilepsy who beat Borderlands 2 (from the comments at the start of the video) also not realize there are different types and levels of epilepsy?? Like not everyone has the same level or frequency of seizures and usually people have different triggers so like...DO you have epilepsy Lilith??
Ngl the flashing lights in borderlands two aren't even that bad compared to most shooter games. There is the occasional flash of light or two, but it's really not sustained. The average cod game has far more flashing. I'm not epileptic so I can't speak on it but I can't imagine it being that bad in comparison to most games in its genre
I've got to be honest... I clicked this video cos I wanted to hear you say "Cuphead". Very endearing in your accent. ^_^
And great video, btw, as ever. I'm subscribed!