something i really wish they had is lift spawners so that levels like smb1 1-2 could be made more faithfully. It will default to spitting lifts in a specified direction, and can be added to tracks to rail on the lifts that spawn from them
@@alysdexia I mean, smb is an abbreviation. It wouldn't be 'Smb'. Unless you're saying it should be 'SMB', but at that point whats the big difference between all of them being capitalized, and none of them?
Better idea than the Cosmic Clone: Cosmic Mario from SM3DL special levels, love the way it completely changes all the rules Also mini mushroom isn’t all that bad, it’s a high skill high reward power up and if we get it we’ll likely get the mega mushroom
5:03 Personally, I think that if, behind the scenes, Nintendo really did HAVE to chose *either* the Frog Suit or Hammer Suit, they chose the right power-up. Now, I wouldn't say I prefer the Frog Suit over the Hammer Suit, but I think it's a bit tunnel-visioned to think it doesn't deserve a spot at *all,* perhaps. The Frog Suit's land traversal IS certainly annoying to use, unless holding an item, but it's a radical change to Mario's moveset and mechanics, ESPECIALLY underwater; which was a style of gameplay that wasn't very fun before the Frog Suit's addition. If anything, the Frog Suit/something equivalent (like the Penguin Suit from NSMB) should be in ALL styles so that fun underwater controls aren't locked to just SMB3, in my opinion. I don't think the Hammer Suit would've shaken up the gameplay or mechanics anywhere NEAR as much as the Frog Suit, at least not without reworking some of it's mechanics. I personally like both powerups, and think they would both make good additions, but I do think the frog suit won fair and square, if we assume it has to be a competition. All that said, good vid!
Exactly this. The frog suit can make underwater levels feel amazing. And even on land, it can occasionally be a quirky change of pace (e.g. in jungle levels). I like the hammer suit in SMB3, but in mario maker wouldn't really have added much. It's basically just another fireflower-eque power up. Still would be nice to have, but the frog suit just adds so so much more.
i deff agree that the hammer suit from smb3 may not've shaken up the gameplay much, but it is actually unique in the sense it protects mario from fireballs(when crouching) and it is actually literally a stronger version of the fire flower(even if more inaccurate) since it defeats almost everything with its hammer bro hammers(even kills bowser faster) that the fire flower itself cannot w/its fireballs(boos, all bone enemies, especially mario bros 3 thwomps) but.. then again hammer suit from mario bros 3 is the one power up that has literally never been in another mario game for over 20 years, which i find pretty sad due to how cool and unique i and prob others thought it was, especially how powerful it is despite the hammers arc(the arc makes sense cuz mario literally becomes a hammer bro w/the suit).
I feel like the hammer suit wasn't chosen over the frog suit simply because it would cause too many issues with off screen set ups. Remember it can damage everything(including Thwamps) and goes through walls and more importantly the ceiling/floor. So just imagine how many levels that rely on off screen mechanisms would soft lock from the hammer suit and how hard it would be to build around.
I think having a full-on Bowser's Fury mode for 3D World that replaces the night mode in that style would be awesome, and maybe it could lead to some non-linear levels where the objective is to collect the Cat Shines instead of reaching the goal and other various gameplay elements from that expansion.
@@panwasacz2733 my guess would be removing flagpoles and time limits, replacing them with: smb1 - big stars (from 64) smb3 - shines (from Sunshine) smw - grand stars (from Galaxy) nsmbu - moons (from Odyssey) 3dw - cat shines (from Bowser's Fury) if they make more 3d styles, i say ditch the flagpoles in 3d styles in favor of these non-linear levels, using their game's respective collectible, and then just not having 2d non-linear levels
Honestly, I'd like to see whomps as added enemies in SMM3. They were in NSMB DS and I think NSMB2 as well, so it'd be nice to see them in 2D Mario again.
There are sooo many things I’d want from Mario 2 • Vegetables you can pick up and throw • Birdo miniboss • Any/All of the bosses from SMB2 • Panser • Magic potion you can use to hide items in Sub Space • Being able to put any item or enemy in the ground as a vegetable leaf just like you can put anything in an item block Just give us the whole game as its own style, really
The mini mushroom would be awesome! That's one of my favorite power ups! You can walk on water and up walls! Plus, you can bounce on enemies! Like, there's so much creative potential here!
15:01 an idea I've never heard is making the penguin suit a setting for the ice flower, like how you can make a goomba a goombrat, or a green koopa red
I could totally see them bringing over Petey Piranha from Sunshine, it's even in a bunch of other games so there's precedent. And I would like to see the poison mushroom from smb2 just for the chaos.
I'd like to see level themes be changed so we can mix and match the background, block pallets, and special features like water or lava or wind. This would give so much more customizability to levels without even adding anything new.
@@jackkawf4449 or 4 like the original Mario bros had. The original 8-4 had the starting room and then 4 sub worlds and that game came out 35 years ago, why are we limited to two
10:37 FLUDD Powerup. There was a flash game that was a 2d recreation of one of 3d Mario games and it had a FLUDD powerup, so it could work well with 2d. Basically, imagine Mario having a jetpack that can also kill enemies. It would refill when going into water or collecting the new FLUDD powerup, so it would be great for levels that are partially submerged, like we can do in SMM1.
The frog suit makes underwater levels actually bearable. And theres already several powerups that throw projectiles, but none that make you swim easily besides the frog suit. So yeah I prefer the frog suit over the hammer suit.
The shell power up from NSMBds makes you swim faster but the frogsuit lets you swim in four cardinal directions fast so you havr a good point. Also penguin suit too
One thing I want to see for the third game is a broader selection of music. Maybe let Creators choose from three tracks per game style or something. The thing is, I find it quite hard to make unique levels with the standard theme. If i want to make a haunted forest level, the theme for the forest music is just way too happy for that. A Tree Tower as a Miniboss level for the super world would also need a more hostile tune. Mario is known for its great music, zo let us choose from this library in the next Maker Game. Also this Way, Games without Game style could be featured.
This! I don't know why this wasn't a thing to begin with, but all music should be open to all game styles and you can mix and match them how you please. I shouldn't have to pick a specific game style and specific level type to use music I want for a level. Not to mention the sound options aren't too great, also I would like to use some without the animation, example is, I like the pig sound, but I don't want the pig to pop up, I should have the option of sound only or with animation
15:16 I can definitely see where you are coming from and I kinda agree! The Ice Flower has only 1 power and that could be used for puzzle levels. But since the Penguin suit has 3 powers, like the Link Sword, it could be used for a level to showcase the powers and use them all in interesting ways. And could also be used for traditional levels as the main power up. 15:28 Also, I think the Mini Mushroom could make great gimmicks for levels. 15:39 They’re called Fake Walls.
a lot of these ideas would be amazing additions to the mario maker series. jus watching videos like these is making me even more hyped for when the direct with smm3 is shown(hopefully sometime in the next year or two!)
I would say I think they're going to save it for the next console, but not sure since Splatoon 3 is a thing. However, it does seem like Super Mario Maker 2 is more popular anyway.
For all stars: they could easily be skins. Something you set per style where you also choose your character. You can choose per style if it should override the original skin.
I really appreciate how you actually clarify "mainline" Mario games. You have no idea how many people will just say "Mario game" like that's enough information.
Main reason I want the Penguin suit over the ice flower is it would kill 2 birds with one stone. You get the ice flower and better swimming wrapped into one powerup. Because I really wish there was a frogsuit-like powerup in every style to make water level more bearable.
i think if they added the ppenguin suit they should ALSO have the ice flower. Maybe it could be a varient of the ice flower like the suberball flower is witth the fire flower
I‘m curious what Nintendo plans to do with 2D Marios in the future. Releasing a regular Mario game, even if there is some innovation on the level of one or two new power-ups, would feel redundant after the Mario Maker games so I feel like they would need something big if they want to continue the series at all.
Good video! I would also include the blue hexagonal invisible blocks from 3d world and bowser's fury where the creator in the editor can see the platform exactly but the player in-game can't see it until they step on it. (Also fixing the 3d beep blocks exactly to the beat of the music and/or adding them to the other game styles, or potentially add the rhythm stage from 3d land or 3d world. Won't that be fun?)
Something that I really want to see added are yellow and blue Koopa Troopas... not only because of more visual variety for all the game styles, but also because they could implement all their behaviors in the smw and the sm3Dw game styles.
Something I’ve always wanted was a Super Paper Mario game style. This way, you wouldn’t rely on power ups as health and you would actually have an HP system. You could also use you hammer, which I think that alone is enough to make this style distinct.
The ability to replay levels is a must, which I guess is implied if you have secret exits. Also, running out of lives should actually, you know... matter. Allowing for navigation between individual worlds would also be nice. I want power ups to carry over between levels, but that gets into a separate list of wants I have, regarding different types of levels.
I feel like a great implementation for Mario galaxy is the game as a whole. Similar to what they did for 3-D world, I feel like it would be an amazing game mode to play. It could look something like at the 12:50 minute mark on your video.
I think the ice flower is a better power up than fire flower and it most definitely should be in MM3 Anyone who disagrees can cope, seethe, or even mald🔥🔥
Well the Fire Flower is more better since it is one of the OGs but we do have the Ice Blocks and the Ice Coin Blocks so why not a Ice Flower and maybe Ice Pirahna Plants?
Why does he think that the greatest game ever made is mixed. He’s probably to busy whining and throwing a tantrum about Nin10doland’s new video in SMO2 /j ofc
Probably my most anticipated game. I didn’t even think about Mario maker 2 being announced but when it was I was so excited. If this happens my mind will be blown.
I have a couple ideas of how Star Coins can be useful, maybe if you get enough of them, you can get in-game achievement or they can be used as a new category on leaderboards so people can grind levels for star coins
Gravity changing might very well be on its way. The 2D sections of Odyssey sometimes have it. Secret exits could lead to one of those smb3 minigame houses, allowing for even more 1-ups to be collected.
Something I want is to have a pipe that can also change the game style, imagine going from Mario bros 3 to Mario bros U. I feel like this could be really fun and creative
For the 3D Mario Games addition of possible tools/assets, I found a fan made flash game (actually really good with its own level editor) incorporated a lot of the items fairly well and was overall pretty fun to play. It was called Super Mario 63 (2D "loose" replicated version of Mario 64 with additional of Mario sunshine and Mario galaxy tools).
I think they should add a gimic where if the clown car touches water it does an epic transformation into a submarine. Not just if you place it in water. Edit: or maybe you just hold down on it and choose transform, clown car, or clown sub.
I would absolutely love a music changer feature, like, being able to activate the NSMBW Final Boss theme for the final boss of your super world would be HYPE
10:10 what do you mean, strollin stews are the best things to ever appear in a mario game and the only thing stopping mario sunshine from being an absolutely terrible game.
There should be a variation for the Themes. Ex: NSMBU Castle theme rn is kinda ugly imo, so a variation can be the gray brick, bluish or the green-ish variation. Also being able to add elements with having to be night mode, like wind. And one million more things 🤩
For SMB1 and Lost Levels, I’d definitely like to see the platform that acts like a single scale platform, sinking when you stand on it and stopping when you jump off, and the Poison Mushroom (not the rotten mushroom). Also, from SMB3, I really want to see Grab Blocks, especially since SMB1 is technically the only one that didn’t have anything of that sort, (Okay, NSMBU didn’t technically have anything like that, but it had the light blocks, which act basically the same)
I know I’m late but I personally don’t think the mini mushroom is “garbage”. It’s a very well-balanced power up that has a lot of unique abilities imo.
For a more interesting nsmb2 addition, you could add the really unique backgrounds nsmb2 levels have. Alternate backgrounds in general would be pretty rad
I have an idea for how to implement both the ice flower *and* the penguin suit. You could change the ice flower into the penguin suit, just like how you can do that with a few enemies, blocks, semi-solids, and power-ups. Easiest thing to do, really.
star coins are honestly so integral to traditional level design feeling good that im really surprised they still don't have them lmao. the Penguin Suit is honestly just such a cool power up that I really wanna see in a mario maker game lol, it improves your swimming controls, provides a faster movement option, lets you stop slipping on ice, has all the benefits of the ice flower, and most importantly looks *adorable*. the only noticeable negative to it's inclusion would be if it came at the *cost* of the ice flower not being put in the game, but frankly? i kinda doubt they'd ever do that? the ice flower is literally just the penguin suit but with less features lol, it's not like adding the ice flower while you have the penguin suit would add much dev time. the question is more in reverse, is it worth adding when you just have the ice flower made? and even then my answer is still yes, because fast movement at 1 tile high that can also break through gaps and has you mostly immune to damage while performing it? it's basically just a functional remake of the blue shell but with more interesting elements added rather than *just* having a limited movement mode that's hard to control. (also the fact that the penguin suit's sliding is an active input you have to make by pressing down while running, whereas the blue shell just automatically does it after you've ran to full speed for a bit lol) that said, i simply *cannot* agree about mini-mushrooms as they simply add *so many* interesting physics changes without you having to be locked to night theme on very specific stages to get similar things from, while also allowing you to use them to give players access to optional difficulty runs of the same level. mini-mushrooms are honestly just super fun and cool and especially if they come with the mini-mushroom mini-blocks that only a mini mario can run under, that'd be so cool (especially in tandem with star coins or extra lives which you could hide behind the mini's alternate path)
I'd also like to see a tower theme. These are very different then castle theme or volcano theme, because theyre more green and don't have lava. This'd be cool to see in addition to beach, volcano, and mountain themes.
@@lemmings1892 nice! Though Kaze releases Mario Maker 64 ROM hack. So we should watch that space to see if it gets taken down 🧠 Tell me though, how'd you add that cool little emoji or whatever at the end of your comment?
I feel like each level should have an individual life counter, because unless you're playing the endless challenge you have no reason to go out of your way for 1-ups and coins.
this is kinda weird but i would love to see the odyssey costumes come to mario maker, and the ability to customise mario, and maybe certain costumes would be given out through an achievement system
The hate for the frog suit tells me you don't play much Mario Maker. SMB3 is probably the least popular gamestyle because there''s so little to make it stand out compared to the others. Frog suit provided *exactly* that: a more dynamic way to play water levels. It was a great addition. Being able to throw hammers around doesn't elevate gameplay nearly as much.
I like the frog suit more than the hammer suit, but that’s because I’m a weirdo who likes water levels. I also would love to hear your thoughts on Super Mario Land 2 at some point in the future because it’s one of my favorite Mario games because I love how unique it is Edit: I also love the mini mushroom. As I kid I would try to beat the whole game as mini Mario. I’m a really weird Mario fan lol
A couple big general things I want *Item alternate skins:* fans have made skins for this game since it came out. As long as it’s not in the 3D world style, it shouldn’t be that hard and frankly, they don’t even all have to have translations between game styles. You could apply them with a paint bucket maybe and it could be just one alternate skin per piece per style. A lot of Lost levels ones for Mario 1, Mario 2 for Mario 3, the other nsmb games for nsmbu, ect. *Less 3D world support:* I know this sounds counterintuitive. Like “this guy wants less content?” Well yes I do because the 3D world style takes away a lot from the game. Lots of things that should exist in other styles don’t because those styles have things not in 3D world and they don’t want to make whole new 3D models. I’d rather have content supported in 4 styles then 1 that’s very polarizing. Also making a 3D game takes a lot more time then a 2D one generally. *more themes:* mario maker 2 did help a lot with that. We got jungle, desert, sky, ect. But although not as vital, we are missing a couple strong ones. Fortress, a less fiery castle would be really nice especially with the worlds mode we have now. Mario world has its mountain theme instead of a desert theme so I definitely think castle should be one. If they ever add climbable objects outside of 3D world it could be really cool. Of course the tropics and transitioning some 3D world ones over to the rest of the game if they decide to stop being stingy with 3D world elements. *Give people an incentive to play:* say what you will about the amiibo costumes but it actually got me to play ALOT of 100 Mario challenge for the characters. Mario maker 2 lacks any sorta player x maker stuff like this where you’re rewarded for playing. In fact your not really rewarded for playing much at all, it’s just “play Mario because Mario”. Despite my levels only improving, somehow I got alot more plays back on the Wii u and this is probably why. I’m not expecting a full new catalog of amiibo costumes but maybe a couple exclusive power ups or priory mentioned skins could be locked. Just some reason to get a maker like me out of the level designer for an hour. Thanks to the 2 people watching this video like 10 months from now and 8 months after I commented reading this mini list of features on a short list of features. I hope you liked it. Feel free to comment your opinions.
I have several ideas. They are: Super Worlds - Running out of lives actually, you know... matters - Allow levels to be replayed (kind of a given with secret exits) - Allow players to move back and forth between individual worlds - Allow powerups to carry over between levels (only really practical with super world exclusive levels) Level Types - The ability to classify a level as single player, multiplayer verses, co-op, endless, super world, etc. If the level isn't classified as being for a particular game type, it won't show up in the respective library. For instance, a level that is only marked for super worlds will only be findable/playable within a super world. Level Privacy Options - Allow levels to be posted privately, playable by code only, etc. This would allow creators to tentatively post levels for getting feedback, and allow people to post levels meant for only them and their friends. More in depth like/dislike system - Give players more options than like/dislike. A level could be really good for one game type, but not another. Give the player an option to choose what game types it would be best suited for, or like/dislike it based on the game types individually. Really, just something to differentiate. Scroll Stop - Have scroll stop operate separately from walls. Allow for the creation of scroll barriers that work independently from walls, so you don't have to make a wall spanning the entire level.
I agree with everything here, especially the “add Game Boy games to NSO” thing, as I just want to play Shrek: Hassle at the Castle come on Nintendo mAKE IT HAPPEN All jokes aside, I really hope they get added, I really want to play the first WarioWare game.
@@jaxsterminator8634 law enforcement don't give a f and puts their resources to more important fronts. Completely unenforced, especially for non current generation games
maybe also the tower theme from the nsmb games because it fits better with vertical levels. i would also like the grrol to be added since spike balls don't bounce off walls. for mario odyssey the sewer pits would be added that can lead to secrets, shortcuts or subworlds
Even though the hammer suit is objectively better, I think the frog suit is more essential. Even though there is the penguin suit, the frog suit came first.
My top 10: 10. The ice flower 9. Volcano Style. Night Gives it falling lava rocks. 8. Outside Ghost house style. Night makes it foggy. 7. Mega Mushrooms. A big ask, but a potentially fun one! 6. Pocket items. They only work in the same level, or maybe superworld 5. The moving castle blocks from NSMBDS. 4. Quicksand 3. A SMB2 style 2. The health mechanic from SMB2 1. A Zelda 2 style.
The very best thing that could be added is changing how water and lava works. Let us place independent lava/water pools outside of the main big lava/water spanning the whole stage.
For me the must-needs for mario maker 3 is the "Secret Walls" you can pass through, Coin Rings, and moving walls. I recently remade NSMBW 1-Tower and it was a living hell trying to recreate something as simple as a moving wall
I would add so many things! I only played NSMB Wii and NSMB U, but I still would add a ton! Prepare for a looong list! 1. The thing I want most is the flying manta ray from NSMB Wii in 5-5. Although its small, that level has a deep place in my heart, as it was my favorite at a young age. 2. Yes, the ice flower is good, but I don't think the penguin suit is that bad. It can be used for all sorts of levels! 3. Mini Mushroom and the tiny pipes would be cool to add! 4. From world 5 in NSMB U, there are many giant blocks that could be added. 5. All of these underwater creatures! The blue fish that chase you, the yellow variant, and also the green ones! The clam that snaps close would be cool too. Also, add those light up jelly fish, and the angler fish from NSMB U. Also, those pipes that shoot bubbles and push you are cool! The last thing I would add in the underwater. that giant worm like creature in NSMB U. 6. Quicksand! We need it! We could have new secrets! 7. Beach theme, mountain theme, volcano theme. 8. Add the lava, water, and quicksand spouts! 9. Crabs, rats, bats, ghost things that punch barrels, squirrels, penguin, flying beetles, fuzzy, big boos, ice bro, fire bro, mini goombas, and also the cloud guys that make fog. Add the fog too. 10. Add the climbing things. Like the cat walls in 3d world. Make that, but you can move to the other side of them, and koopas can climb on them. 11. Make enemy pop ups on super world! Also, make the mushroom houses have mini games. Canons too! 12. Add the boat in the water cave mountain level on NSMB Wii. Also, add the boat in the world 5 level where you have to have less than five enemies on the boat in NSMB Wii. 13. Add the hidden areas behind walls. 14. Add ghost house doors that you can set to disappear. 15. Add those bubbles that you can float through. 16. Star coins. 16. My final suggestion is the giant moving ice blocks in the third world of NSMB Wii.
something i really wish they had is lift spawners so that levels like smb1 1-2 could be made more faithfully. It will default to spitting lifts in a specified direction, and can be added to tracks to rail on the lifts that spawn from them
yeah that thing is even on super mario flash level editor and it would be super easy to make
There’s no smb1.
@@alysdexia what i mean by smb1 is like, the original super mario bros. the one before 2
@@switchgeer6519 then shorten and capitalize properly.
@@alysdexia I mean, smb is an abbreviation. It wouldn't be 'Smb'. Unless you're saying it should be 'SMB', but at that point whats the big difference between all of them being capitalized, and none of them?
14:25 rip Luigi he will forever be in our hearts.💚
luigi never dies
@@SillierPutty did you notice you replied to a 2 year old comment
@@Villager_Nerd did you notice i don't care
Better idea than the Cosmic Clone: Cosmic Mario from SM3DL special levels, love the way it completely changes all the rules
Also mini mushroom isn’t all that bad, it’s a high skill high reward power up and if we get it we’ll likely get the mega mushroom
And for a harder challenge, Galaxy 2 Cosmic Clones.
Plural.
@Aether Exactly
@@DrRank I always found that much better than the one clone in 3dl
@Kazin what an smg4 style
Thank you for defending one of the best power ups, the mini mushroom.
15:05 I could see the ice flower item being replaced with the penguin suit on water/snow levels like how the dry bones are replaced with dry fish
That was only in the original mario maker, now you can have dry bones underwater or fish bones on land
5:03 Personally, I think that if, behind the scenes, Nintendo really did HAVE to chose *either* the Frog Suit or Hammer Suit, they chose the right power-up. Now, I wouldn't say I prefer the Frog Suit over the Hammer Suit, but I think it's a bit tunnel-visioned to think it doesn't deserve a spot at *all,* perhaps.
The Frog Suit's land traversal IS certainly annoying to use, unless holding an item, but it's a radical change to Mario's moveset and mechanics, ESPECIALLY underwater; which was a style of gameplay that wasn't very fun before the Frog Suit's addition. If anything, the Frog Suit/something equivalent (like the Penguin Suit from NSMB) should be in ALL styles so that fun underwater controls aren't locked to just SMB3, in my opinion.
I don't think the Hammer Suit would've shaken up the gameplay or mechanics anywhere NEAR as much as the Frog Suit, at least not without reworking some of it's mechanics. I personally like both powerups, and think they would both make good additions, but I do think the frog suit won fair and square, if we assume it has to be a competition.
All that said, good vid!
Besides, we got a more unique hammer suit in the 3d world theme anyways.
Exactly this. The frog suit can make underwater levels feel amazing. And even on land, it can occasionally be a quirky change of pace (e.g. in jungle levels). I like the hammer suit in SMB3, but in mario maker wouldn't really have added much. It's basically just another fireflower-eque power up. Still would be nice to have, but the frog suit just adds so so much more.
i deff agree that the hammer suit from smb3 may not've shaken up the gameplay much, but it is actually unique in the sense it protects mario from fireballs(when crouching) and it is actually literally a stronger version of the fire flower(even if more inaccurate) since it defeats almost everything with its hammer bro hammers(even kills bowser faster) that the fire flower itself cannot w/its fireballs(boos, all bone enemies, especially mario bros 3 thwomps)
but.. then again hammer suit from mario bros 3 is the one power up that has literally never been in another mario game for over 20 years, which i find pretty sad due to how cool and unique i and prob others thought it was, especially how powerful it is despite the hammers arc(the arc makes sense cuz mario literally becomes a hammer bro w/the suit).
hammer suit is cool bruh
so it needs a spot but theres no point in suggesting themcuzz, no more updates
“The most iconic enemy in the game: Shy Guy”
Birdo: *Dies of emotional damage*
This is probably some of the best jokes, timing and just over all quality on your whole channel! Keep it up you're awesome!
Cool bowser
Jump scare freddy wasn't the most funny?
One might even say cool bowser
If we were concerned about the bad level creators then all there would be is ground blocks
@@mellohi6175 It’s about the quality of the video, so yes
I feel like the hammer suit wasn't chosen over the frog suit simply because it would cause too many issues with off screen set ups.
Remember it can damage everything(including Thwamps) and goes through walls and more importantly the ceiling/floor.
So just imagine how many levels that rely on off screen mechanisms would soft lock from the hammer suit and how hard it would be to build around.
I think having a full-on Bowser's Fury mode for 3D World that replaces the night mode in that style would be awesome, and maybe it could lead to some non-linear levels where the objective is to collect the Cat Shines instead of reaching the goal and other various gameplay elements from that expansion.
Non-linear levels in general are definitely something I'd like added
@@casualschmurr sounds cool but like how would you be able to do that ?
@@panwasacz2733 my guess would be removing flagpoles and time limits, replacing them with:
smb1 - big stars (from 64)
smb3 - shines (from Sunshine)
smw - grand stars (from Galaxy)
nsmbu - moons (from Odyssey)
3dw - cat shines (from Bowser's Fury)
if they make more 3d styles, i say ditch the flagpoles in 3d styles in favor of these non-linear levels, using their game's respective collectible, and then just not having 2d non-linear levels
@@deadgrass2299 I say green stars for 3d world
this would take years because its not 3d like 3d world + bowser fury
15:07 I think the penguin suit could be a variant of the ice flower, like the fire flower and the superball flower
Honestly, I'd like to see whomps as added enemies in SMM3. They were in NSMB DS and I think NSMB2 as well, so it'd be nice to see them in 2D Mario again.
thwimps would also be cool
Also mario 64, oddisey had a variant...
@@vik.o1598 they were talking about 2d games
what about the holdable blocks
@@Thedevil412 You mean like those Stone blocks in story mode? Those would be cool as a physics block.
There are sooo many things I’d want from Mario 2
• Vegetables you can pick up and throw
• Birdo miniboss
• Any/All of the bosses from SMB2
• Panser
• Magic potion you can use to hide items in Sub Space
• Being able to put any item or enemy in the ground as a vegetable leaf just like you can put anything in an item block
Just give us the whole game as its own style, really
The mini mushroom would be awesome! That's one of my favorite power ups! You can walk on water and up walls! Plus, you can bounce on enemies! Like, there's so much creative potential here!
I agree
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I totally agree, the Mini Mushroom is actually one of my favorite Power Ups in the New Super Mario Bros games.
Imagine how the mini mushroom could affect the puzzle levels!
geez finally someone else who loves it
15:01 an idea I've never heard is making the penguin suit a setting for the ice flower, like how you can make a goomba a goombrat, or a green koopa red
Honestly, for NSMB2, I'm surprised you didn't mention the dry bones versions of enemies. Dry goombas and dry piranha plants would be cool.
Yeah. They're immune to fire, so they'd make for great enemies in traditional levels
Goombas have bones?
@@miscellaneousrat4049I think you should be more concerned about the piranha plants
@@warioplush They have bones in SMBW though
Dry Bones for smash
I could totally see them bringing over Petey Piranha from Sunshine, it's even in a bunch of other games so there's precedent. And I would like to see the poison mushroom from smb2 just for the chaos.
I'd like to see level themes be changed so we can mix and match the background, block pallets, and special features like water or lava or wind. This would give so much more customizability to levels without even adding anything new.
Agree and 2 sub world's instead of one
@@jackkawf4449 or 4 like the original Mario bros had. The original 8-4 had the starting room
and then 4 sub worlds and that game came out 35 years ago, why are we limited to two
This would fix the water only in forest levels problems.
Weird idea, but that also means that we could have ships on water in the airship theme.
10:37 FLUDD Powerup. There was a flash game that was a 2d recreation of one of 3d Mario games and it had a FLUDD powerup, so it could work well with 2d. Basically, imagine Mario having a jetpack that can also kill enemies. It would refill when going into water or collecting the new FLUDD powerup, so it would be great for levels that are partially submerged, like we can do in SMM1.
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Ice flower would’ve made some amazing levels, I still think we were robbed of it in SMM2
I wish they had a boss map and more bosses, also making tracks invisible/speed settings, shy guys, waterfall's/sand geysers, and music options.
pretend this is a rickroll
@@SaddyYT. not only is that joke dated, but it doesn't even fit here
@@jackkawf4449 pretend my little brother didnt comment that
The frog suit makes underwater levels actually bearable. And theres already several powerups that throw projectiles, but none that make you swim easily besides the frog suit. So yeah I prefer the frog suit over the hammer suit.
You make good points, I’m on the fence, since over never experience either really
The shell power up from NSMBds makes you swim faster but the frogsuit lets you swim in four cardinal directions fast so you havr a good point. Also penguin suit too
@@TheLonelyGhost. I'm specifically talking about in Mario Maker
You could hold something.
@@TheLonelyGhost. faster -> swiftlier; ok as in awk as in you’re awkward.
One thing I want to see for the third game is a broader selection of music. Maybe let Creators choose from three tracks per game style or something. The thing is, I find it quite hard to make unique levels with the standard theme. If i want to make a haunted forest level, the theme for the forest music is just way too happy for that. A Tree Tower as a Miniboss level for the super world would also need a more hostile tune.
Mario is known for its great music, zo let us choose from this library in the next Maker Game. Also this Way, Games without Game style could be featured.
This! I don't know why this wasn't a thing to begin with, but all music should be open to all game styles and you can mix and match them how you please.
I shouldn't have to pick a specific game style and specific level type to use music I want for a level.
Not to mention the sound options aren't too great, also I would like to use some without the animation, example is, I like the pig sound, but I don't want the pig to pop up, I should have the option of sound only or with animation
yeah i want that too, idk if they would even add it tho. im tired of having to use the night time theme for all my ghost levels
15:16 I can definitely see where you are coming from and I kinda agree! The Ice Flower has only 1 power and that could be used for puzzle levels. But since the Penguin suit has 3 powers, like the Link Sword, it could be used for a level to showcase the powers and use them all in interesting ways. And could also be used for traditional levels as the main power up.
15:28 Also, I think the Mini Mushroom could make great gimmicks for levels.
15:39 They’re called Fake Walls.
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I don't see what the Mini-Mushroom could do that the Frog Suit can't (they both jump high and walk on water)
I love the mini mushroom and agreee that it would be great to add it to mm2
I don't get the hate for the mini mushroom. It's unique and interesting power-up.
08:05 - BUT THERE IS A SPACE THEME IN SMM2: THE SKY NIGHT THEME!
a lot of these ideas would be amazing additions to the mario maker series. jus watching videos like these is making me even more hyped for when the direct with smm3 is shown(hopefully sometime in the next year or two!)
I would say I think they're going to save it for the next console, but not sure since Splatoon 3 is a thing. However, it does seem like Super Mario Maker 2 is more popular anyway.
For all stars: they could easily be skins. Something you set per style where you also choose your character. You can choose per style if it should override the original skin.
Let’s hope SMM3 happens! It would be hype if it does get announced! :)
splatoon 3 came out on the same system as 2 so who knows
I really appreciate how you actually clarify "mainline" Mario games. You have no idea how many people will just say "Mario game" like that's enough information.
Main reason I want the Penguin suit over the ice flower is it would kill 2 birds with one stone. You get the ice flower and better swimming wrapped into one powerup. Because I really wish there was a frogsuit-like powerup in every style to make water level more bearable.
What did water level do to you?
@@wohao_gaster7434 Water levels are pretty slow and boring without powerups
@@davinchristino he said WATER LEVEL without S, thus being a person
The penguin suit also removes slipping on ice
i think if they added the ppenguin suit they should ALSO have the ice flower. Maybe it could be a varient of the ice flower like the suberball flower is witth the fire flower
I‘m curious what Nintendo plans to do with 2D Marios in the future. Releasing a regular Mario game, even if there is some innovation on the level of one or two new power-ups, would feel redundant after the Mario Maker games so I feel like they would need something big if they want to continue the series at all.
I doubt they'd do another like Mario Land 1 or that they'd even bring what NSMB DS was meant to be in the first place.
the answer is finally answered after a year
Good video! I would also include the blue hexagonal invisible blocks from 3d world and bowser's fury where the creator in the editor can see the platform exactly but the player in-game can't see it until they step on it.
(Also fixing the 3d beep blocks exactly to the beat of the music and/or adding them to the other game styles, or potentially add the rhythm stage from 3d land or 3d world. Won't that be fun?)
Something that I really want to see added are yellow and blue Koopa Troopas... not only because of more visual variety for all the game styles, but also because they could implement all their behaviors in the smw and the sm3Dw game styles.
Something I’ve always wanted was a Super Paper Mario game style. This way, you wouldn’t rely on power ups as health and you would actually have an HP system. You could also use you hammer, which I think that alone is enough to make this style distinct.
The ability to replay levels is a must, which I guess is implied if you have secret exits. Also, running out of lives should actually, you know... matter. Allowing for navigation between individual worlds would also be nice. I want power ups to carry over between levels, but that gets into a separate list of wants I have, regarding different types of levels.
I feel like a great implementation for Mario galaxy is the game as a whole. Similar to what they did for 3-D world, I feel like it would be an amazing game mode to play. It could look something like at the 12:50 minute mark on your video.
I'm surprised there still hasn't been a beach theme. It's iconic and yet overlooked.
I think the ice flower is a better power up than fire flower and it most definitely should be in MM3
Anyone who disagrees can cope, seethe, or even mald🔥🔥
but minimush is better than both >:)
Well the Fire Flower is more better since it is one of the OGs but we do have the Ice Blocks and the Ice Coin Blocks so why not a Ice Flower and maybe Ice Pirahna Plants?
10:49 my nostalgia filled heart sunk
Why does he think that the greatest game ever made is mixed. He’s probably to busy whining and throwing a tantrum about Nin10doland’s new video in SMO2 /j ofc
Probably my most anticipated game. I didn’t even think about Mario maker 2 being announced but when it was I was so excited. If this happens my mind will be blown.
My idea for Sunshine would be Fludd. It works, see Super Mario 63. Amazing fangame, and it works wonders.
Secret exits would be such a boon for traditional levels and super worlds. Great suggestion.
I've been wanting blue coins added to Mario Maker since before the prequel to this video, super excited that we share that idea!
I have a couple ideas of how Star Coins can be useful, maybe if you get enough of them, you can get in-game achievement or they can be used as a new category on leaderboards so people can grind levels for star coins
Gravity changing might very well be on its way. The 2D sections of Odyssey sometimes have it. Secret exits could lead to one of those smb3 minigame houses, allowing for even more 1-ups to be collected.
Something I want is to have a pipe that can also change the game style, imagine going from Mario bros 3 to Mario bros U. I feel like this could be really fun and creative
I didn’t watch the whole video before I wrote this lol
Maybe before going into it, the pipe looks like how it would look in the other game style
Powerups. *WHAT ABOUT POWERUPSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!?*
For the 3D Mario Games addition of possible tools/assets, I found a fan made flash game (actually really good with its own level editor) incorporated a lot of the items fairly well and was overall pretty fun to play. It was called Super Mario 63 (2D "loose" replicated version of Mario 64 with additional of Mario sunshine and Mario galaxy tools).
I think they should add a gimic where if the clown car touches water it does an epic transformation into a submarine. Not just if you place it in water.
Edit: or maybe you just hold down on it and choose transform, clown car, or clown sub.
Genius
I don’t know how that would work if there were enemies inside, but that does sound pretty cool.
I would absolutely love a music changer feature, like, being able to activate the NSMBW Final Boss theme for the final boss of your super world would be HYPE
I think the rotating circular platforms from 1-3 in nsmb wij would be great
actually that was 1-1, 1-3 is the yoshi level
Moving terrain options would be great in general
10:10 what do you mean, strollin stews are the best things to ever appear in a mario game and the only thing stopping mario sunshine from being an absolutely terrible game.
that's not fair the speedruns are cool to
There should be a variation for the Themes. Ex: NSMBU Castle theme rn is kinda ugly imo, so a variation can be the gray brick, bluish or the green-ish variation. Also being able to add elements with having to be night mode, like wind. And one million more things 🤩
that last idea was so perfect, I'm amazed no one had that idea yet
For SMB1 and Lost Levels, I’d definitely like to see the platform that acts like a single scale platform, sinking when you stand on it and stopping when you jump off, and the Poison Mushroom (not the rotten mushroom). Also, from SMB3, I really want to see Grab Blocks, especially since SMB1 is technically the only one that didn’t have anything of that sort, (Okay, NSMBU didn’t technically have anything like that, but it had the light blocks, which act basically the same)
I know I’m late but I personally don’t think the mini mushroom is “garbage”. It’s a very well-balanced power up that has a lot of unique abilities imo.
I LOVE SMM2 I really hope SMM3 happens
Hopefuly...
Yes please
Probably not on Switch though
@@IcyDiamond true
it most likely won't happen ever
For a more interesting nsmb2 addition, you could add the really unique backgrounds nsmb2 levels have. Alternate backgrounds in general would be pretty rad
I think Mario Sunshine could work as it's game-style. Or atleast the F.L.U.D.D could be added as really cool power-up
It's game style is ass though
The carrot power up. It's similar to the cape, but you can only float. Could be useful for a SMB only power up.
I think the carrot power up would be really fun in SMM3. If you are a good enough spammer you can essentially fly infinitely.
(laughs in turbo button)
I scrolled down my recommended from this video, I found 8 Odyssey central videos.
I have an idea for how to implement both the ice flower *and* the penguin suit. You could change the ice flower into the penguin suit, just like how you can do that with a few enemies, blocks, semi-solids, and power-ups. Easiest thing to do, really.
star coins are honestly so integral to traditional level design feeling good that im really surprised they still don't have them lmao.
the Penguin Suit is honestly just such a cool power up that I really wanna see in a mario maker game lol, it improves your swimming controls, provides a faster movement option, lets you stop slipping on ice, has all the benefits of the ice flower, and most importantly looks *adorable*.
the only noticeable negative to it's inclusion would be if it came at the *cost* of the ice flower not being put in the game, but frankly? i kinda doubt they'd ever do that? the ice flower is literally just the penguin suit but with less features lol, it's not like adding the ice flower while you have the penguin suit would add much dev time.
the question is more in reverse, is it worth adding when you just have the ice flower made? and even then my answer is still yes, because fast movement at 1 tile high that can also break through gaps and has you mostly immune to damage while performing it? it's basically just a functional remake of the blue shell but with more interesting elements added rather than *just* having a limited movement mode that's hard to control.
(also the fact that the penguin suit's sliding is an active input you have to make by pressing down while running, whereas the blue shell just automatically does it after you've ran to full speed for a bit lol)
that said, i simply *cannot* agree about mini-mushrooms as they simply add *so many* interesting physics changes without you having to be locked to night theme on very specific stages to get similar things from, while also allowing you to use them to give players access to optional difficulty runs of the same level. mini-mushrooms are honestly just super fun and cool and especially if they come with the mini-mushroom mini-blocks that only a mini mario can run under, that'd be so cool (especially in tandem with star coins or extra lives which you could hide behind the mini's alternate path)
I'd also like to see a tower theme. These are very different then castle theme or volcano theme, because theyre more green and don't have lava. This'd be cool to see in addition to beach, volcano, and mountain themes.
eh, i feel like you should just be able to change the liquid type. Personally im fine w vertical castle levels for now
Hear me out: not Mario Maker 3... Mario Maker 3d
Mario Maker 64 or Galaxy
@@lemmings1892 nice! Though Kaze releases Mario Maker 64 ROM hack. So we should watch that space to see if it gets taken down 🧠
Tell me though, how'd you add that cool little emoji or whatever at the end of your comment?
@@WrappedInPlasticine I just used the emoji button integrated in UA-cam, under the comment bar
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What about…. Mario Kart Maker!!!!
How long until Nintendo adds fantastic Fuzzies? How will we rate levels without a scale of 1-5 fuzzies?
Perhaps even their rare and valuable variant, the beautiful Rainbow Fuzzy
@@failure4452 Or the Glorious Crown fuzzies. Plus a ticket to redeem a normal fuzzy.
The double cherry is similar to what happens when you scan a yarn amiibo into yoshi’s woolly world. They already know how to implement it
I feel like each level should have an individual life counter, because unless you're playing the endless challenge you have no reason to go out of your way for 1-ups and coins.
Hope you reach 100k! Only 1.2 thousand left to go!
Another thing is that the penguin suit would make for some fun underwater levels
For some reason, I just love hearing ideas for a potential Mario Maker 3! Great video!
I love your content it makes me laugh and also puts great ideas in my head. Keep of the great work
Thanks so much for liking my comment I am a big fan
Mini mushrooms could only be good on the condition that it comes with mini pipes/doors and mini ground blocks.
A mario odyssey theme in mm3 would be goated
this is kinda weird but i would love to see the odyssey costumes come to mario maker, and the ability to customise mario, and maybe certain costumes would be given out through an achievement system
When it comes to the Bullet Blaster, I think it would be cool if you could put it in pipes like in Mario Land.
The hate for the frog suit tells me you don't play much Mario Maker. SMB3 is probably the least popular gamestyle because there''s so little to make it stand out compared to the others. Frog suit provided *exactly* that: a more dynamic way to play water levels. It was a great addition. Being able to throw hammers around doesn't elevate gameplay nearly as much.
I know I'm a year late but if you still agree with this opinion proves you have never been on this guys channel
@@balls_gamingno, I've been on his channel alot, and I agree with this comment
I like the frog suit more than the hammer suit, but that’s because I’m a weirdo who likes water levels.
I also would love to hear your thoughts on Super Mario Land 2 at some point in the future because it’s one of my favorite Mario games because I love how unique it is
Edit: I also love the mini mushroom. As I kid I would try to beat the whole game as mini Mario. I’m a really weird Mario fan lol
Nah, you're cool, not weird
A couple big general things I want
*Item alternate skins:* fans have made skins for this game since it came out. As long as it’s not in the 3D world style, it shouldn’t be that hard and frankly, they don’t even all have to have translations between game styles. You could apply them with a paint bucket maybe and it could be just one alternate skin per piece per style. A lot of Lost levels ones for Mario 1, Mario 2 for Mario 3, the other nsmb games for nsmbu, ect.
*Less 3D world support:* I know this sounds counterintuitive. Like “this guy wants less content?” Well yes I do because the 3D world style takes away a lot from the game. Lots of things that should exist in other styles don’t because those styles have things not in 3D world and they don’t want to make whole new 3D models. I’d rather have content supported in 4 styles then 1 that’s very polarizing. Also making a 3D game takes a lot more time then a 2D one generally.
*more themes:* mario maker 2 did help a lot with that. We got jungle, desert, sky, ect. But although not as vital, we are missing a couple strong ones. Fortress, a less fiery castle would be really nice especially with the worlds mode we have now. Mario world has its mountain theme instead of a desert theme so I definitely think castle should be one. If they ever add climbable objects outside of 3D world it could be really cool. Of course the tropics and transitioning some 3D world ones over to the rest of the game if they decide to stop being stingy with 3D world elements.
*Give people an incentive to play:* say what you will about the amiibo costumes but it actually got me to play ALOT of 100 Mario challenge for the characters. Mario maker 2 lacks any sorta player x maker stuff like this where you’re rewarded for playing. In fact your not really rewarded for playing much at all, it’s just “play Mario because Mario”. Despite my levels only improving, somehow I got alot more plays back on the Wii u and this is probably why. I’m not expecting a full new catalog of amiibo costumes but maybe a couple exclusive power ups or priory mentioned skins could be locked. Just some reason to get a maker like me out of the level designer for an hour.
Thanks to the 2 people watching this video like 10 months from now and 8 months after I commented reading this mini list of features on a short list of features. I hope you liked it. Feel free to comment your opinions.
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I'm sorry, but the hammer suit will never be more than a less fun fire flower to me. The frog suit is WAY better and is an actually unique item.
The only problem with the Hammer Suit being added is the overlaps with the New hammer power up
I have several ideas. They are:
Super Worlds
- Running out of lives actually, you know... matters
- Allow levels to be replayed (kind of a given with secret exits)
- Allow players to move back and forth between individual worlds
- Allow powerups to carry over between levels (only really practical with super world exclusive levels)
Level Types
- The ability to classify a level as single player, multiplayer verses, co-op, endless, super world, etc. If the level isn't classified as being for a particular game type, it won't show up in the respective library. For instance, a level that is only marked for super worlds will only be findable/playable within a super world.
Level Privacy Options
- Allow levels to be posted privately, playable by code only, etc. This would allow creators to tentatively post levels for getting feedback, and allow people to post levels meant for only them and their friends.
More in depth like/dislike system
- Give players more options than like/dislike. A level could be really good for one game type, but not another. Give the player an option to choose what game types it would be best suited for, or like/dislike it based on the game types individually. Really, just something to differentiate.
Scroll Stop
- Have scroll stop operate separately from walls. Allow for the creation of scroll barriers that work independently from walls, so you don't have to make a wall spanning the entire level.
One thing I really want to see if they make a Super Mario Maker 3 is the tower/fort theme. They even added verticle subareas, which is a perfect fit!
Odyssey, you’re so close to 100K! Congratulations man, I’m so happy to see your channel grow!!! :)
I agree with everything here, especially the “add Game Boy games to NSO” thing, as I just want to play Shrek: Hassle at the Castle come on Nintendo mAKE IT HAPPEN
All jokes aside, I really hope they get added, I really want to play the first WarioWare game.
Emulate it
@@arzfan29 I don’t want to go to jail, thank you.
@@jaxsterminator8634 you won't go to jail though
@@hurou But emulation is piracy????
@@jaxsterminator8634 law enforcement don't give a f and puts their resources to more important fronts. Completely unenforced, especially for non current generation games
Awesome video! Just to point out, a Fangame called SMM: World Engine that has most of these things.
4:05 😂😂😂
maybe also the tower theme from the nsmb games because it fits better with vertical levels.
i would also like the grrol to be added since spike balls don't bounce off walls.
for mario odyssey the sewer pits would be added that can lead to secrets, shortcuts or subworlds
3:20 actually, Doki Doki Panic was built off of a Mario game IIRC
Even though the hammer suit is objectively better, I think the frog suit is more essential. Even though there is the penguin suit, the frog suit came first.
19:15 No Im Mad cuz You Didn't Include mArio maker 1 and luigi u!!! Btw this is a joke
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my favourite part in the whole video is seeing all the youtubers that i am subbed to appear on screen (all of them)
the penguin is like a blue shell and ice flower mixer together (with a bit of the frog too)
The mario wonder style is a great idea
My top 10:
10. The ice flower
9. Volcano Style. Night Gives it falling lava rocks.
8. Outside Ghost house style. Night makes it foggy.
7. Mega Mushrooms. A big ask, but a potentially fun one!
6. Pocket items. They only work in the same level, or maybe superworld
5. The moving castle blocks from NSMBDS.
4. Quicksand
3. A SMB2 style
2. The health mechanic from SMB2
1. A Zelda 2 style.
The very best thing that could be added is changing how water and lava works. Let us place independent lava/water pools outside of the main big lava/water spanning the whole stage.
For me the must-needs for mario maker 3 is the "Secret Walls" you can pass through, Coin Rings, and moving walls. I recently remade NSMBW 1-Tower and it was a living hell trying to recreate something as simple as a moving wall
I would add so many things! I only played NSMB Wii and NSMB U, but I still would add a ton!
Prepare for a looong list!
1. The thing I want most is the flying manta ray from NSMB Wii in 5-5. Although its small, that level has a deep place in my heart, as it was my favorite at a young age.
2. Yes, the ice flower is good, but I don't think the penguin suit is that bad. It can be used for all sorts of levels!
3. Mini Mushroom and the tiny pipes would be cool to add!
4. From world 5 in NSMB U, there are many giant blocks that could be added.
5. All of these underwater creatures! The blue fish that chase you, the yellow variant, and also the green ones! The clam that snaps close would be cool too. Also, add those light up jelly fish, and the angler fish from NSMB U. Also, those pipes that shoot bubbles and push you are cool! The last thing I would add in the underwater. that giant worm like creature in NSMB U.
6. Quicksand! We need it! We could have new secrets!
7. Beach theme, mountain theme, volcano theme.
8. Add the lava, water, and quicksand spouts!
9. Crabs, rats, bats, ghost things that punch barrels, squirrels, penguin, flying beetles, fuzzy, big boos, ice bro, fire bro, mini goombas, and also the cloud guys that make fog. Add the fog too.
10. Add the climbing things. Like the cat walls in 3d world. Make that, but you can move to the other side of them, and koopas can climb on them.
11. Make enemy pop ups on super world! Also, make the mushroom houses have mini games. Canons too!
12. Add the boat in the water cave mountain level on NSMB Wii. Also, add the boat in the world 5 level where you have to have less than five enemies on the boat in NSMB Wii.
13. Add the hidden areas behind walls.
14. Add ghost house doors that you can set to disappear.
15. Add those bubbles that you can float through.
16. Star coins.
16. My final suggestion is the giant moving ice blocks in the third world of NSMB Wii.
Yes! YES! We need a beach theme! I swear, I’ve been wanting to create a level using the Sunshine music, but I can never seem to make it work.
I actually love the frog suit,.. it makes for fun rage worthy platforming