What happened to TF2 updates?

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  • Опубліковано 28 сер 2024
  • Remember when Team Fortress 2 actually got frequent updates? Well... you might not actually, it's been that long. With a gigantic community of passionate workshop users, why doesn't Valve simply make community updates? Join me, indie, as we go over the history of TF2's workshop, it's failed community update efforts, and what's in store for TF2 updates in the future.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 258

  • @_indii
    @_indii  Рік тому +138

    EDIT: I'm still proud of this video, but it's no longer a representation of my opinion on Zesty Jesus. Don't wanna go super into it but after the Tran S Wright door incident I no longer feel comfortable associating with him. Still wish him the best, and hope you enjoy the video.
    I had some help with this video:
    www.youtube.com/@AzelleTown - a teeny bit of editing I needed help with
    www.youtube.com/@Felandil - A lot of the SFM animation you see
    discord: discord.gg/TzNaJXXSnu
    Hope you guys enjoyed!!!!!!!!!

  • @LukiKruki
    @LukiKruki Рік тому +43

    I think Valve should only give a theme and let community create whatever they want with the theme. Let's say "Give us a new game mode, maps with summer theme" Then Valve chooses some things of them into an update.

  • @Wigion
    @Wigion Рік тому +445

    sorry... it was me 😔

  • @AzelleTown
    @AzelleTown Рік тому +117

    Can't wait for The Madcap to make it to this summer event!!!

  • @goldenmansion1012
    @goldenmansion1012 Рік тому +87

    My hopes for the summer update is that there are good quality items added to the crates, and some quality of life improvements. I’m hard pressed to ask for something as impactful as Love & War or Jungle Inferno or anything that big, just some quality of life and bug fixes, minor as they may be. Perhaps at best a Blue Moon styled update that reworks weapons as well as readding content, perhaps the lost arena gamemode or some other maps that got removed from the queue, or maybe finishing Cactus Canyon and/or Asteroid.

  • @chaosagent999
    @chaosagent999 Рік тому +30

    An update I was wating for a while that got cancelled was the Frontline! update. The theme is very cool and the maps too. Great vid btw (:

    • @Rustillery
      @Rustillery Рік тому +1

      Frontline will be missed :,(

    • @TheVampireFishQueen
      @TheVampireFishQueen Рік тому

      @@Rustillery Tho they are still working to get the Frontline! update.

    • @Rustillery
      @Rustillery Рік тому

      @@TheVampireFishQueen yea, there's a bunch of cool stuff, and constantly more coming. Now we are just missing the part where Valve gives a fuck.

  • @Felippexlucax
    @Felippexlucax Рік тому +28

    More than 2000 days, the only ones that "care" about the game in valve are the potted plant and the janitor, both discussing about adding the big slappy to the game or not
    Also you need more subs!

  • @BonesInBroth
    @BonesInBroth Рік тому +160

    Actually, in hindsight the robotic boogaloo & End of the Line really wasn't that bad and without the hypetrain I think the community would've been a bit less angry about it. It wasn't supposed to be anything more than just some hats and in a time where the game actually got updates that was fine.

    • @anon9469
      @anon9469 Рік тому +21

      Yeah... Robotic Boogaloo would be seen as a content bonanza at this point in the game's lifecycle, but at the time, the expectation was that an update would come with a full suite of maps, items, etc. and not just several dozen hats.

    • @technical_difficulties_
      @technical_difficulties_ Рік тому

      @@anon9469 Because it was supposed to come out with a map and weapons, but Valve either stole or rejected them. I believe that the Tide Turner was supposed to be in this update, for example. The map, Snowplow, was cut for being "too confusing for new players," but was at least added eventually.

  • @jonnysmiles7533
    @jonnysmiles7533 Рік тому +51

    Loved the video dude. Not only was zesty just as good as he always is but the quality of the video is also extremly good. I really hope valve does something with this update that fixes some of the most glaring problems of the game. (bots, buged weapons, bugs in general, performance ect.)

    • @_indii
      @_indii  Рік тому +7

      Thank you for the kind words :)

  • @timmythepinky9137
    @timmythepinky9137 Рік тому +128

    The tf2 workshop is an example of why we should never let the community update the game in any way. They put out better items for the summer update but I remember what they did for these past years

    • @fenneck9676
      @fenneck9676 Рік тому +1

      Do you know why he do just this ? Because it's just that Valve and the F community want to have.

    • @joyhally7754
      @joyhally7754 Рік тому +17

      The goal of every community workshop creator is to have their items put into the game. So when they see what items VALVe has been putting into the game they start changing things up to meet the new demands. Ever since the Potassium Bonnet got put into the game, creators have been racing to make more and more garish cosmetics, it doesn't help that VALVe rewards them by actually letting in these joke items into the game.

    • @TheTdw2000
      @TheTdw2000 Рік тому

      TF2C is also further proof of this. The AA gun is one of the dumbest ideas for an unlock yet they added it anyway.

    • @self-proclaimedanimator
      @self-proclaimedanimator Рік тому

      @@TheTdw2000 what's the AA gun

    • @TheTdw2000
      @TheTdw2000 Рік тому +1

      @@self-proclaimedanimator a shitty attempt at a new weapon the TF2C devs implemented that has nothing to do with "classic" TF2 (unlike actual scrapped content like the dynamite pack or the tranq gun). It's essentially a hitscan sticky spam weapon that never needs to reload, and it's about as cancerous to fight against as you can imagine. The devs clearly don't understand the importance of class distinction and just want to add their own ideas anyway, completely ruining the whole "TF2 from 2008-09" feel they were going for.

  • @UnisRapper
    @UnisRapper Рік тому +17

    The workshop isnt bad its valve using a random number generator to decide what items get in.
    Their laziness to do anything with the game has cost them to overely on other players for their "content"

  • @Paracosm
    @Paracosm Рік тому +1

    ngl i just watched like maybe the first 40 seconds of your video and decided to instantly subscribe. Your editing is AMAZING

  • @willropa4226
    @willropa4226 Рік тому +10

    Feels like a bit of a mixed bag with TF2, the gamers should be grateful that they still have developers working on it, but at the same time the developers should be grateful that they still have gamers who care so much about the game. I really hope the teased Heavy Update from that blogpost can mend the bond between the two parties, this content drought has been slowly sapping away at the game.

  • @Karma_Miguel
    @Karma_Miguel Рік тому +12

    Was cool to see zesty in this video

  • @abba9881
    @abba9881 Рік тому +2

    three things tf2 needs imho: 1) absence of random critz, 2) new maps, 3) arena mod in casual

  • @ben0073_
    @ben0073_ Рік тому +4

    This aged well

  • @randomprimary
    @randomprimary Рік тому +32

    hey this video is very well produced for the amount of likes it's got, nice job :3

  • @SirNarax
    @SirNarax 8 місяців тому +1

    The Robotic Boogaloo wasn't the community deciding what was to be picked. There was already a community of people making fake updates for the hell of it and Valve liked Robotic Boogaloo and selected it to be the first community driven update.

  • @MissngTexture
    @MissngTexture Рік тому +1

    This better be the 100ker!
    Great video as always inde major improvement in everywhere!

  • @BreadmannYT
    @BreadmannYT Рік тому +8

    I really don't like all this crossing guard slander, its one of my fav meele weapons

  • @ZestyJesus
    @ZestyJesus Рік тому +19

    I really need to buy a new chair...

    • @afaniscool
      @afaniscool Рік тому +1

      What you really need is to buy a new perspective 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @Goallpeashooters
    @Goallpeashooters Рік тому +3

    love the use of the Sam and Max ost in the background lmao

    • @_indii
      @_indii  Рік тому +2

      YEEEEEEEEES! LOVE SAM AND MAX

    • @Goallpeashooters
      @Goallpeashooters Рік тому +1

      @@_indii same! Glad to see some of the ost being used outside the game!

  • @lyra9597
    @lyra9597 Рік тому +10

    TF2 updates? Sure you just forgot to take your medications.
    (great video btw (by the way))

  • @crazybird199
    @crazybird199 Рік тому

    Nice video! I didn't know much about TF2 updates to begin with, so I really enjoyed this.

  • @pozigaming3443
    @pozigaming3443 Рік тому +5

    so u tell me if it wasnt for those goofy ahh coordinators , tf2 would still get community driven ACTUAL updates ?

  • @OofeyTheBee
    @OofeyTheBee Рік тому +1

    Short Explaination:
    Gone, reduced to atoms.

  • @neosketch27
    @neosketch27 Рік тому +10

    Great video Zesty Jesus!

  • @IntroMan96
    @IntroMan96 Рік тому +1

    Bro let his intustive thouts win at 2:46💀💀

  • @Roge9
    @Roge9 Рік тому +2

    Today I learned this game is still getting updates. I'm surprised.

  • @llmkursk8254
    @llmkursk8254 Рік тому +3

    Honestly, it'd be nice if we could get a weapon balance update or a new Strange weapons crate, but after they debuted cases it seems like strange crates are never gonna happen again, and older weapons with limited stranges just keep getting more expensive and unattainable by the day.

  • @chrxstt
    @chrxstt Рік тому +1

    bub games footage made me feel happy

  • @donanilao7724
    @donanilao7724 Рік тому +1

    "You know what they say:
    A few bad apples ruin the batch!"
    -Gaben

  • @butterlol5464
    @butterlol5464 Рік тому +1

    nice colab with zesty :)

  • @kptparker
    @kptparker 9 місяців тому

    One thing one has to remember about Valve, is they dont have many people at staff. A few hundred at most. And they dont only make games (HL: Alex is a game after all) but also hardware like VR headsets, steam deck and even a mini console-stream device for TV. With them doing it all, this small amount of people is not enough to be used on permanent duty to update games till end of the world. Does not help that they have free movement of stuff, in meaning employees chose them selfs on which project they work, some prefer to work on cutting edge stuff rather to maintain old games. (Apart from doing so once in blue moon)
    They could do the way they done with Counter Strike Global Offensive, which is to have outside dev team to help out with that task, but so far there is only one studio that Valve trust for such task and even now, I dint hear much that Hidden Path (Outside dev team I mentioned) is involved with anything regarding CS2.
    The only way for TF2 to regain "old standard of updates" is by Valve hiring/making outside studio to work on TF2 exclusively. Problem with that is who Valve could trust with such idea along with people willing to make that a permanent job till heat death of universe when other option is to work on new stuff. Many would say "community should be that team!" but lets be honest. In ocean of people, how can one find people not only willing to remain on single project, but also be good enough to not screw things over by greed or by they bad character? Valve tried a few times to hire community and you saw what happened in TF2 cases, there are other ones in regard of other Valve games.

  • @catke590
    @catke590 Рік тому +18

    We should started calling the End of the line update the "Sabotaged" update just as a reminder that Valve was involved with it's doomed.

    • @MrBelaska
      @MrBelaska Рік тому

      i remember that time when i was very excited about it and we all know how it ended then....

  • @okaychud
    @okaychud Рік тому +3

    rent free zesty haters losing as usual

  • @Ashthepassedcat
    @Ashthepassedcat Рік тому +1

    The weapon for end of the line is most likely the air strike like cmon look at it it's a bomb and whats end of the line about bombs

  • @Ayahuasca98
    @Ayahuasca98 Рік тому +1

    Good vid. I hope to see them make the new update good

  • @Sarmathal
    @Sarmathal Рік тому +1

    At least we'll probably get at least one semi decent map in the Summer update.

  • @RGBFurry
    @RGBFurry Рік тому +5

    this kind of editing quality is like million-subscriber worthy, how the hell are you merely 2k!?

  • @subjectdelta7210
    @subjectdelta7210 Рік тому +1

    The update is still 9 years in development

  • @megamanmegamanmegamanmegam8725

    :Team fortress 2 when it was getting updates:
    Team fortress 2 players: Wow these updates suck!
    :Team fortress 2 no longer gets any new updates to get new content:
    :Team fortress 2 players: Wait why is there no new updates for this game? we need new content for this game!

  • @eatpant4ever
    @eatpant4ever Рік тому +3

    2:45 Damn, Sam. cheating on Max like that. 😳
    Very nicely structured and fun video. You earned a sub. 😎
    I really wonder how this "summer update" will turn out.

    • @_indii
      @_indii  Рік тому +3

      You crack me up eat pant! Thank u for da kind words :3

  • @someweirdlookingdude7901
    @someweirdlookingdude7901 Рік тому +6

    Good video i like that it features zesty

  • @UnisRapper
    @UnisRapper Рік тому +1

    I literslly cant believe its been 1 year since tf2 tweeted out that they "heard the community" im starting to lose hope here

  • @RVIC.O.
    @RVIC.O. Рік тому

    Hey! I just wanted to say that you have the best About section (channel description) that I have ever seen on UA-cam

  • @attackonhollywood1808
    @attackonhollywood1808 Рік тому +1

    Indie time indie time!

  • @user-wj4ph2ht5c
    @user-wj4ph2ht5c 11 місяців тому +1

    YAY ZESTY APPEARED I LOVE HIM

    • @stinkster
      @stinkster 10 місяців тому

      i dont

    • @apealican
      @apealican 8 місяців тому

      @@stinkster how come?

  • @titodrawstuff2180
    @titodrawstuff2180 Рік тому

    great quality of evrything, keep it up :)

  • @ashyofficial23
    @ashyofficial23 9 місяців тому

    1:01 weezer

  • @felixftw4702
    @felixftw4702 9 місяців тому

    have to disagree completely on robotic boogaloo. it was the 2nd part of the mann vs machine update where we got robotic versions of already existing hats. what's wrong with that? i really like it when it came out. had no idea about valve keeping profits from the community though. i stopped playing tf2 from 2014-2018 so i'm not fully informed on that era but i know about jungle inferno and whatnot

  • @PENNERCREW
    @PENNERCREW Рік тому

    This was a really nice Video you deserve more attention

  • @Mr_Sega
    @Mr_Sega Рік тому +1

    0:28 Not really. If there was a huge problem with an older game, they would have to make a revision and sell that.

  • @UnisRapper
    @UnisRapper Рік тому +1

    What game where you playing in the back ground?

  • @The_Qcumber
    @The_Qcumber Рік тому +1

    to answer the question in the title, vale stopped making them.

  • @EpicevanXD
    @EpicevanXD 11 місяців тому

    If there gonna update something major they need to make a free way to get keys or mvm tickets

  • @JeffarryLounder
    @JeffarryLounder 10 місяців тому

    Just thinking back, if we had more competent people in charge of the Invasion update that weren’t as selfish, we may have had more updates; perhaps even with better balance changes. But the greed of a few individuals ruined it for everyone.

  • @landlockedcroat1554
    @landlockedcroat1554 Рік тому +1

    we all know what happened boy it aint the time for another "wot hapen 2 teefteu" video

  • @engineer_focus1889
    @engineer_focus1889 10 місяців тому

    Surprised to see bub games in the start lmao

  • @jeff_-
    @jeff_- Рік тому

    that spy cosmetic really sus bro

  • @engineer_focus1889
    @engineer_focus1889 Рік тому

    Didnt expect a bub games clip

  • @bananbananowy3552
    @bananbananowy3552 Рік тому +2

    who's that "team fortress 2" guy anyway?

  • @litedadelite5769
    @litedadelite5769 Рік тому

    "Hey barry do you remember that one game that you loved? It was me barry."

  • @ARandomPersonFromTheNet
    @ARandomPersonFromTheNet Рік тому

    "gone, reduced to atoms"

  • @The_X-PO_Center
    @The_X-PO_Center Рік тому

    0:05 *oops*

  • @luuksimons6369
    @luuksimons6369 Рік тому +1

    love the intro. hahaha. (whoopsie)

  • @SirSerSor
    @SirSerSor Рік тому

    WAS THAT THE AIR SHOT OF 2007?!?!

  • @0mi
    @0mi Рік тому

    i love your pfp

  • @Gardeningismypassion833
    @Gardeningismypassion833 Рік тому +1

    2:41 why u gotta do Sam like that 💀

  • @vitotorres1743
    @vitotorres1743 Рік тому +1

    Not a big fan of Zesty Jesus… that being said, that insert with him was GENIUS

  • @NotSoProfessionalGuy
    @NotSoProfessionalGuy Рік тому +1

    It was a pretty good video. Honest to God the reason why I've basically been, pets be real here, licking Valve's boots for nearly a whole year was because well...I want to those big updates that Valve used to do. Started playing this game as soon as the bot invasion really kicked in (April of 2020), which is also why I was so hopeful for SaveTF2. And when I first saw that blog post I was so fucking happy you have no idea. "Finally!" I told myself "We're getting an actual TF2 update, holy shit" But as soon as they changed it from "update-sized update" to "holiday sized update" well...all that excitement that I had was immediately crushed.
    Personally, I don't think this upcoming update will be any better than the holiday themed updates we've been getting for the past , like what, 7 years now? I really want to be wrong but given Valve's track record, I'm probably going to be proven right sadly.
    Also how come I feel like what's said about the Invasion update was just the tip of the iceberg.

    • @TheVampireFishQueen
      @TheVampireFishQueen Рік тому

      You should still be excitement about the summer update and its likely it will be better than the holiday themed updates we've been getting for the past.

  • @officialpoppyperson
    @officialpoppyperson Рік тому

    Epic video, I enjoyed :)

  • @rouzeeetv
    @rouzeeetv Рік тому

    Nice video, i subscribed

  • @leogoedicke8368
    @leogoedicke8368 Рік тому

    he had bionicle piraka nice what is his favorite also i love the video

  • @captain3413
    @captain3413 Рік тому

    9:52 why spy isn't blinking?

  • @KingShibaa
    @KingShibaa Рік тому

    People talkin bout the heavy update, like we still waiting on the guard dog update get in line bud

  • @dise8785
    @dise8785 7 місяців тому +1

    I ate them all

  • @xChillDudex
    @xChillDudex Рік тому +2

    Xbox one tf2 stayed with 0 updates and it's still active today. Little longer than 8months lol. Imo stock tf2 is better. 8 v 8 is more fun than 12 v 12 and especially 16 v 16. Sure I miss some weapons but there's a lot of gimmick bs items that can kill you and don't get me started about snipers on PC that instantly kill you after seeing you. Then you have the whole issue of people using cheats in every game and then pc tf2 starts to get annoying.

  • @TannerNatoli
    @TannerNatoli Рік тому

    Yo I didn’t know steam was born on the same day as my birthday (ofc not the same year but, same day!)

  • @theoktoberscarf
    @theoktoberscarf Рік тому

    Thnx for being nice to zesty

  • @ThePoptartPrince
    @ThePoptartPrince Рік тому

    good video made me cry half way

  • @Derglebom
    @Derglebom Рік тому

    I haven't seen anyone suggest this so I'll say it. I think Valve slowed updates on TF2 because of Counter-Strike 2. Think about it! Valve would want to shift their priorities from a game they released 15 years ago to the newest Counter-Strike game on their newest engine! A game like that would take a pretty long time to make. They most likely worked on it alongside Half-Life: Alyx, but it's just that Counter-Strike 2 is taking longer because it's a more complex multiplayer game. This is all just speculation on my part though...

  • @TheVampireFishQueen
    @TheVampireFishQueen Рік тому +1

    I know some are worried but I think the summer update will be great.

  • @justampeg4file
    @justampeg4file Рік тому

    11:51 where do i get those fans?

  • @AnnaSue81
    @AnnaSue81 Рік тому +1

    It was all his fault
    IT WAS ALWAYS HIM
    DAMN YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

  • @CaelumHarrison
    @CaelumHarrison Рік тому +1

    We need a TF3

  • @TheDunsparceGames
    @TheDunsparceGames Рік тому +3

    i see that people in this comment section have started to withdraw from their copium addiction and understand that there is no chance we ever get a major update again
    this “”””””update”””””” will be robotic boogaloo 2.0, nothing more

    • @thebushbros6626
      @thebushbros6626 Рік тому +1

      Give it a couple months, they’ll go back to that copium.

  • @WeaselOnaStick
    @WeaselOnaStick Рік тому

    Sam & Max OST my beloved

  • @Mr.SpicyIce
    @Mr.SpicyIce Рік тому +2

    The clip at 0:05 is by Bub Games. You failed to credit them in the video and in the description.

  • @cryogen654
    @cryogen654 Рік тому

    clip at the beginning is bubgames

  • @balls3289
    @balls3289 Рік тому

    NOT THE CLIP FROM BUB

  • @UnisRapper
    @UnisRapper Рік тому

    Great video zesty jesus!

  • @systemhalodark
    @systemhalodark Рік тому

    Motherly Father would look almost normal these days.

  • @mfillest
    @mfillest 9 місяців тому

    in full honesty i would have liked the game to be abandoned post love & war just because i hate matchmaking so much

  • @W4rch3st
    @W4rch3st Рік тому

    we need more weapons .. atleast one for each merc and each slot

  • @PacMania67
    @PacMania67 Рік тому

    the valve civilian

  • @pipimipeanuts2112
    @pipimipeanuts2112 Рік тому

    Never knew he had fumos

  • @GabrielLopez-pc9io
    @GabrielLopez-pc9io 5 місяців тому

    End of The Line was Kill by valve

  • @juanpaulocadayona8311
    @juanpaulocadayona8311 Рік тому

    I want the chat system back for f2p CUZ I CANT CHAT AND I CANT CALL FOR MEDIC THEY JUST IGNORE ME WHEN IM LOW AND I DIE

  • @tarbamichaelwijesunderajr
    @tarbamichaelwijesunderajr Рік тому

    How Be Bad For Fail