I stay here in south Texas now. I use this hover rig for the speckle sea trout here when they want nothing but small baits and during the winter cold fronts. Ive been slamming them
Nice! I wanna fish Texas! The Core tackle hover rig is more of mid strolling and bottom strolling. They do have a few weights that can do hover strolling... But the design makes it very limited in the ways lures can be presented! Try the owner range roller Jig!
I've been doing well with rigging those baits as you would a drop shot but with no weight. Start the hook (I'm using a heavy 1/0 or 2/0 octopus hook for the weight) just behind the eye so it kinda acts as a diving bait, then it will ether just hover or slowly float back to the top.
It get hit well on all species! Made a few trips out and gonna edit em soon! Wanted to throw this out there first ;) Oh yeah... I did do two live streams and I did fish it and did extremely well for slabs lol
@@rawrfishing for weight i used "G7 Tungsten Straight Screw Sinker Nail Weight" my two best size is 1/64oz and 1/32oz, it a screw in nail weight so stay in the plastic much more firm than insert nail weight, for hook i used fly fishing hook "Umpqua X-Series XT500 BN Jig Hook" it comes 25pcks; i used size 4 for the 2" minnow and size 6 for 1" minnow
Haven't tried yet! I just gotten back to it as I found it cheaper now to do it than before. So I am starting fresh and exploring my way around what's available in the market! It would be cool to find larger ones as we know Americans love to throw big stuff... Finesse with big baits is a niche itself lol
@@rawrfishing I haven't seen many of the channels I follow talk about the conventional size strolling baits. Only recently I've seen Matt and Tim talk about it. It would be interesting to hear if there is any difference with between conventional size and BFS. And do you fish them exactly the same.
I tuned out American Strolling as they have been mixing things up. Great example is how core tackle call their spine rig Jig the Hover Rig! Not the same thing and their tackle is too heavy (thick, weight and hook sizes) for hover Strolling. The action they feature is what the spine rig does, which is the spiral effect when the lure falls on slack line, like a tube bait. It doesn't roll at all in most cases.
I saw! A lot of folks use the okashira screw head Jig for mid Strolling wobble and flash, but that Jig is too heavy for Strolling. So I will likely have to diy it for small light weighed ones!
Not familiar with walleye fishing and tackle. But key for me so far is by putting the Jig hook high as possible to the plastic and around the eye area and the weight low as possible
Sure let's talk! What weight did u use? How about lines? And hook size? Note Lightest weight is hard cuz it doesn't allow the lure to be going back to the balanced position quick enough. I use 0.6 grams a lot but I believe One size down shouldn't be too bad
I was using the size 2 fish arrow hooks with the 3” fish arrows. I was running a 1/32 oz and didn’t have much luck. I’ve tried midstrolling with the owner jigs and had good luck with those. For line, I was using braid with about 7ft of leader.
@@rawrfishingI’m using Nako nail weights. I have tsuryinoya. Is there a difference? Also my line is 6lb flouro with 10lb braid. I don’t know if that’s what you were referring to with the thickness
Brand doesn't matter. Weight is weight! 6lb fluoro could be too thick for the lighter weights. Fujita uses mainly 4lbs. But I find 6 lb is fine for 0.6 grams
I have started experimenting just a tiny bit with the hover rig by rigging a couple of baits. The jig hooks I bought are plain 90degree hooks from a flyfishing brand with no type of keeper or anything on the shank like your ones here, and I find the plastic kinda twists on the hook very easily the few times I've tried fishing with them. Will a bit of super glue prevent this or would I need a hook with "something" on the shank to make them sit more robust without turning? Just got my Genius (+ hybrid bearings) + Dragon C662L combo btw, as my first BFS gear ever. The Swedish spring can't come fast enough, but we'll be iced over until mid April. Maybe I can find some small stream to wet the line in before that. I already started practicing short flicking casts from the hall to the living room sofa :)
I think we can certainly add a few wraps of thread on the shank so that when you super glue, it can bind better, keeping the lure from twisting after a bite! The spine hook seems to have that heat shrink and also epoxy to kinda cause the plastic to pinch harder. But DIY is the way to go if you got the stuff at home as you can save a lot more money doing it yourself :) I am shoveling snow this afternoon... first real snow for the season. kiddo is 4 and this is his first time out playing snow LOL
@@rawrfishing Lightning fast reply :) Yep, that's what is was just thinking, just DIY threading something on the shank with some glue to make it a bit thicker and "rougher" to make the plastic sit tighter.
I cant believe I left that out.... It's 2.95g for the plastic, then 3.1g with hook and depending on your weight it can vary. The one portrayed was 3.6 g.. Which is interesting! Damn Tsurinoya is off a bit lol. I used their 0.6g weights.
Folks I will tell you everyone that is thinking about getting in the the Ultra Light side of BFS get .6 PE line and do not put over 125 feet of line on your reel. Jimmy is the person that has walked me through this from my start in the BFS journey. And do not be afraid to ask him questions. He is a great person and will do what he can to help you. And Jimmy if you do end up reading this there is a rod that was sent to you that is no longer in production that I would like to buy from you if you still have the Original Jenko Double Down. If you do want to sell it would you let me know how to contact you. Thanks brother
Thx for the kind words mate! Ahh the double down! Great rod! I plan on using it more this upcoming season for larger finesse treble hook lure fishing, I really like using it to throw the baby giron!
@@rawrfishing if you ever get ready to sell it I would really appreciate it if you would keep me in mind. I just wish I could find an Original Double Down.
@@rawrfishing from what I understand they discontinued it. And I heard talk that they were going to make another one. But to my knowledge they never have.
Hey jim I hope all is well i need your help with a project that i am trying to do so i have a Old school Abu Garcia winch i want to use it for my small crank baits like a 1.0 and less but i want to get a shallow spool spool for it but I don't know what to get for it can you recommend one for me and i wanted to change the handle what would you advise thanks
Mmm... Not familiar with that reel. But Aliexpress got ton of spools. You can check brands like amo or rays studio. If you can find out which reel it is like, it would be easier. There's tons of abu spools for revo and black max. So maybe there is one for that!
So i assume weight range between 2 grams and up? You can check out the Tsurinoya Dragon Line up and perhaps the Tsurinoya Genius. That would run you a bit over 100
it's more than that! you have a plastic that is hollow and floats in a way so it will be presented horizontal. you have a nail weight placed at the bottom you have an UNWEIGHTED jig hook and rigged at the most top part of the plastic you slow roll and jiggle the rod tip
I stay here in south Texas now. I use this hover rig for the speckle sea trout here when they want nothing but small baits and during the winter cold fronts. Ive been slamming them
Nice! I wanna fish Texas! The Core tackle hover rig is more of mid strolling and bottom strolling. They do have a few weights that can do hover strolling... But the design makes it very limited in the ways lures can be presented! Try the owner range roller Jig!
Thanks for sharing this technique. Will definitely have to try it.
You bet! Let Me know how it goes for ya
@@rawrfishingquestions could it work with bigger baits like a fluke jr size 3 in bait. Or small deps bait 3.5 in
@@paulbarry7760 u can fiddle, but not all baits works. Most lures sinks too fast and you will end up not presenting the life correctly
I've been doing well with rigging those baits as you would a drop shot but with no weight. Start the hook (I'm using a heavy 1/0 or 2/0 octopus hook for the weight) just behind the eye so it kinda acts as a diving bait, then it will ether just hover or slowly float back to the top.
They are great lures for upper water column fishing!
Ty for showing both
I will show everything :)
Just need the time to film and edit
Alright ty Japanese fishing techniques get overlooked they should receive credit also the OG's
I really like this !
It's hot technique
Nice one, Ive been using conventional jig heads. I've been meaning to use that type or HWS for deeper water
Thx, Strolling techniques are fun!
A perfect lure for a dropshot. I'd love to use it just with a split shot too on a spinning reel. Be dynamite for crappie this spring.👍😄
This plastic here seemed to be more popular for drop shot than hover strolling. But now that you know how to roll... It's time to stroll
@@rawrfishing anxious to see a trip on the water with it soon . The way you rigged it I can't imagine a bass not pulverizing it. Good luck 👍
It get hit well on all species! Made a few trips out and gonna edit em soon! Wanted to throw this out there first ;)
Oh yeah... I did do two live streams and I did fish it and did extremely well for slabs lol
Should get the 1 inch j flash and target trout!!!
u should see what I got laid out on my desk right now ;)
@@rawrfishing that’s what I like to hear!
Gonna happen for sure in spring
Yup been there, done that; pretty fun fishing surface 2inch under the water
my favorite size is the 2" it's lighter so stay up in the water column longer kinda waking
nice! Sounds like it be a killer for my shallow ponds fishing! what weight do you use on that?
@@rawrfishing for weight i used "G7 Tungsten Straight Screw Sinker Nail Weight" my two best size is 1/64oz and 1/32oz, it a screw in nail weight so stay in the plastic much more firm than insert nail weight, for hook i used fly fishing hook "Umpqua X-Series XT500 BN Jig Hook" it comes 25pcks; i used size 4 for the 2" minnow and size 6 for 1" minnow
Cool, i tried with the zman Flashback Mini trailers lol. Gonna try the smaller flash j
Have you had any luck with larger 4 to 5 inch hover strolling baits? Thanks sharing your BFS hover strolling rig.
Haven't tried yet! I just gotten back to it as I found it cheaper now to do it than before. So I am starting fresh and exploring my way around what's available in the market! It would be cool to find larger ones as we know Americans love to throw big stuff... Finesse with big baits is a niche itself lol
@@rawrfishing I haven't seen many of the channels I follow talk about the conventional size strolling baits. Only recently I've seen Matt and Tim talk about it. It would be interesting to hear if there is any difference with between conventional size and BFS. And do you fish them exactly the same.
I tuned out American Strolling as they have been mixing things up. Great example is how core tackle call their spine rig Jig the Hover Rig! Not the same thing and their tackle is too heavy (thick, weight and hook sizes) for hover Strolling. The action they feature is what the spine rig does, which is the spiral effect when the lure falls on slack line, like a tube bait. It doesn't roll at all in most cases.
This rolling action reminds me of Dou spybaits. Can you figure a way to put a prop in the front of that Hoover strolling rig. 😮
U thinking like a mad man! I like it :p! Let me see what I can do
I already done that, it crazy bites when water die out and no ripples or currents
I saw! A lot of folks use the okashira screw head Jig for mid Strolling wobble and flash, but that Jig is too heavy for Strolling. So I will likely have to diy it for small light weighed ones!
I was just wondering if the short shank jig hook(the kind walleye anglers use)would give it more of a shimmy?
Not familiar with walleye fishing and tackle. But key for me so far is by putting the Jig hook high as possible to the plastic and around the eye area and the weight low as possible
@@rawrfishing I'm looking forward to what type of baits that you use besides the arrow cause I fish similar waters here in central NJ
I will be up finding spruce, Merrill and rvr and even potentially manasquan this spring into summer!
I can’t get mine to roll. I’ve rigged the weight as low as possible, but it just comes straight in. Any tips?
Sure let's talk!
What weight did u use? How about lines? And hook size?
Note Lightest weight is hard cuz it doesn't allow the lure to be going back to the balanced position quick enough. I use 0.6 grams a lot but I believe
One size down shouldn't be too bad
I was using the size 2 fish arrow hooks with the 3” fish arrows. I was running a 1/32 oz and didn’t have much luck. I’ve tried midstrolling with the owner jigs and had good luck with those.
For line, I was using braid with about 7ft of leader.
How thick?
It should work. I get mine to roll perfectly using even 0.6 gram nail weight.
@@rawrfishingI’m using Nako nail weights. I have tsuryinoya. Is there a difference?
Also my line is 6lb flouro with 10lb braid. I don’t know if that’s what you were referring to with the thickness
Brand doesn't matter. Weight is weight!
6lb fluoro could be too thick for the lighter weights. Fujita uses mainly 4lbs. But I find 6 lb is fine for 0.6 grams
I have started experimenting just a tiny bit with the hover rig by rigging a couple of baits. The jig hooks I bought are plain 90degree hooks from a flyfishing brand with no type of keeper or anything on the shank like your ones here, and I find the plastic kinda twists on the hook very easily the few times I've tried fishing with them. Will a bit of super glue prevent this or would I need a hook with "something" on the shank to make them sit more robust without turning?
Just got my Genius (+ hybrid bearings) + Dragon C662L combo btw, as my first BFS gear ever. The Swedish spring can't come fast enough, but we'll be iced over until mid April. Maybe I can find some small stream to wet the line in before that. I already started practicing short flicking casts from the hall to the living room sofa :)
I think we can certainly add a few wraps of thread on the shank so that when you super glue, it can bind better, keeping the lure from twisting after a bite! The spine hook seems to have that heat shrink and also epoxy to kinda cause the plastic to pinch harder. But DIY is the way to go if you got the stuff at home as you can save a lot more money doing it yourself :)
I am shoveling snow this afternoon... first real snow for the season. kiddo is 4 and this is his first time out playing snow LOL
@@rawrfishing Lightning fast reply :) Yep, that's what is was just thinking, just DIY threading something on the shank with some glue to make it a bit thicker and "rougher" to make the plastic sit tighter.
U got me at a good time! Was responding to several comments at the same time lol
How many grams does that total rig weigh? Just curious.
I cant believe I left that out.... It's 2.95g for the plastic, then 3.1g with hook and depending on your weight it can vary. The one portrayed was 3.6 g.. Which is interesting! Damn Tsurinoya is off a bit lol. I used their 0.6g weights.
Would you recommend this for bank fishing? Thanks for the info
Yes, absolutely! A pond slaying lure!
The Japanese mainly fish this rig bank fishing
Yeppers!
Do they have these on Temu I just want free shipping lol
I don't use temu. But I have used knock offs.. They don't roll the same. Sorry, no bueno
Folks I will tell you everyone that is thinking about getting in the the Ultra Light side of BFS get .6 PE line and do not put over 125 feet of line on your reel. Jimmy is the person that has walked me through this from my start in the BFS journey. And do not be afraid to ask him questions. He is a great person and will do what he can to help you. And Jimmy if you do end up reading this there is a rod that was sent to you that is no longer in production that I would like to buy from you if you still have the Original Jenko Double Down. If you do want to sell it would you let me know how to contact you. Thanks brother
Thx for the kind words mate!
Ahh the double down! Great rod! I plan on using it more this upcoming season for larger finesse treble hook lure fishing, I really like using it to throw the baby giron!
@@rawrfishing if you ever get ready to sell it I would really appreciate it if you would keep me in mind. I just wish I could find an Original Double Down.
Did they really discontinued it? Maybe they are working on a revision?
@@rawrfishing from what I understand they discontinued it. And I heard talk that they were going to make another one. But to my knowledge they never have.
I can ask since I am curious what they will bring out before icast
Hey jim I hope all is well i need your help with a project that i am trying to do so i have a Old school Abu Garcia winch i want to use it for my small crank baits like a 1.0 and less but i want to get a shallow spool spool for it but I don't know what to get for it can you recommend one for me and i wanted to change the handle what would you advise thanks
Mmm... Not familiar with that reel. But Aliexpress got ton of spools. You can check brands like amo or rays studio.
If you can find out which reel it is like, it would be easier. There's tons of abu spools for revo and black max. So maybe there is one for that!
@@rawrfishing Its like a black max but a slower gear ratio
There are ton of black max spools out there! Amo is one of em! Check em out I Aliexpress!
@@rawrfishing THANKS
Can you use this technique all year round?
If it's not frozen... Yes! Check out my videos as I will portray fishing fall into winter
Spring? Summer as well?
fish it fast for warmer temp. it's totally a sub surface technique! I will continue to portray those as spring and summer comes around
Do you know any bfs combos that would work great for small swim baits like those under 100$
Unfortunately, I don't use anything that would add up to below 100 dollars. But, how light are we talking about?
@@rawrfishing something for around medium light to light for crappie and panfish
But still could handle small bass
So i assume weight range between 2 grams and up? You can check out the Tsurinoya Dragon Line up and perhaps the Tsurinoya Genius. That would run you a bit over 100
@@rawrfishing thank you
Very interesting, feel brain dead can't convert .6 grams to fractional ounce.
I think metric is easier once u get the hang of it. But if 1/32nd oz is around 0.9 grams.... Then I would say it's around 1/48.. Or closer to 1/47!
So it's basically just a neko weighted jig? Lmao
it's more than that!
you have a plastic that is hollow and floats in a way so it will be presented horizontal.
you have a nail weight placed at the bottom
you have an UNWEIGHTED jig hook and rigged at the most top part of the plastic
you slow roll and jiggle the rod tip