How to Spool Braided Line onto a BFS Shallow Spool Reel
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- Опубліковано 9 лют 2021
- How to Spool Braided Line onto a BFS Shallow Spool Reel - PE line can get tricky when spooling onto a Baitcasting reel because it's thin and slippery. And on a Thin BFS reel, doing it improperly can damage your spool. You can easily spool up braided line using this method that I am sharing with you with PE line or braided line. Note to never try to pull a snagged hook with your BFS reel. You will likely warp the spool.
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This is the best video explaining braid only spool. If you (like me) are starting your bfs fishing use braid. It casts good and it is easy to pick those bird nests. 0.10mm X8 cheap braid seems to be ok. Haven't had any line digging in. I also used 50cm fluorocarbon 0.18mm leader with FG knot. My rod has small guides and Albright knot seem to interfere with casting which slows down the casting training.
A bit of background... I only started fishing last year. I was given ultralight spinning setup. And it was fun. Through UA-cam i found bfs fishing. Ordered pw100 spooled 0.16 mono line (as recommended by most "beginner" videos) and thus began my unproductive two week training. At the end of second week I was fed up with all of it and just before quitting I spooled up 30m of braid as shown in video. Today started training again for couple of hours. After easily picked first hundred nests I am actually getting the hang of it. Currently I am only managing backhand and side casting. But it is a huge step. Nest became rare. Even caught 7 perch.
Main idea is just keep rolling, keep the momentum steady. No power up at the end. No snaps. Just same momentum and nice round rolls.
Hope this helps. Because all the casting tutorials are definitely not for an absolute beginners. I wish to you all a proper video of casting lessons.
thx man! i definitely do something for beginners in the near future :)
Figures I see this video a day too late. Just yesterday I respooled my Zephyr with 6 lb mono. I used a double wrapped "Trilene" knot with 6 twists and of course that little knot sticks up and gets in the way on the super shallow spool. Your knot laying flat is so simple yet so smart! 45 years of fishing and i'm still learning, thanks Jimbo!
Glad you have found this useful! I learned a lot from the internet and fans often send stuff my way and I love it! Knowledge sharing is great!
@@rawrfishing Just got a spare spool directly from KastKing of New York. Only $12.50 and FREE SHIPPING! Received it only 3 days after placing the order, wow! THIS TIME I used your "BFS Spool Knot" with 10 lb braid and it's a real treat! Now I have one spool for mono and one for braid.
Thanks again!
@@HomesteadOnThePreserve nice! Perfect
Highly underrated tip. This video will blow up one day. I do this to all my braid setups not just my bfs
That's awesome man! I should give it a shot on heavy line via my frogging setup!
That is a good way to connect any type of line to any type reel spool.
Glad you like it :)
Great tutorial! Will be doing this from now on!
works great on shallow spools ;)
Thanks a lot, this is what i was looking for, BFS spool needs that so much!!
U are welcome :)
Sweet and simple. Good job of explaining this.
Glad you have found it useful! 👍🙌
Nice, I gotta give his a try. Awesome tips and tutorial!
Thx man i appreciate it! 👍👍
Followed this video when setting up my new Aldebaran BFS, it worked perfectly, love it, thanks!
Glad you like it
That is exactly what I am doing right now haha.
This is beyond useful! Thank you brother!
Yee Yee! Glad it helped ya
Nice tip, man!! Love it!
Glad you like it ^_^
Thanks!
You are welcome and thank you for the super! I appreciate it!
Huh. Never would've thought of that. Good tip for braid regardless of bfs
you see, i never tried it with thicker line. so i would suggest trying before committing on a full size spool. i normally back fill mono for full size spools because braided line is expensive!!! lol
@@rawrfishing haha that's true. We aren't rolling in cash like some UA-camrs 🤣🤣
definitely not me T_T
@@rawrfishing haha, definitely not most of us. Hell my channel (SlothTV) only has like 20 subscribers 🤣
@@mmancino1982 keep on the grind 💪
This is a great method! I wish I would have known this back in the late 90's when I discovered braid. I just spooled two reels using this method. It worked beautifully! Also discovered how delicate 10# braid is by breaking the line during the sinch, however the knot remained intact. I'm having a great day; thank you so much for this knowledge. BTW I subscribed to the channel and all notifications.👏👏👏✌️
Thx mate! Glad you have found it useful! Great way for shallow spool reels!
Great way to spool any and all reels. Gonna use this method on all reels moving forward. ✌️
Careful for deeper spools. During colder season and when spool shrinks... Your line will become loose! You would simply need to let line out all the way, tighten and reel aback in!
Here is what I am talking about! The line would slip as you reel in:
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Works great for spinning too
@@rawrfishing that's great info, but in my area 9° was record cold. I don't fish in those temps that usually last a day or two than en up again. 😀✌️
Great Tip! Thanks!
Glad you have found it useful:)
I spool up all my baitcasters and spinning reels like that directly from bfs to big reels. No need for backing or other materials. Great tip for those who need to know!
Awesome man!
Yeah & 3/4 of that braid will never be used 😂
That’s where backing comes in.
Awesome Tip for spooling 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
Schooling ppl on spooling is what I do lol
Man that worked out great..thank you.
Nice! Enjoy ^_^
Great Tips, Jimmy😁
Thx! Please share ;)
Awesome tip this should work for mono/fluoro backing for non BFS spools. Except with mono/fluoro don't do the twists. I like this method better than the arbor knot.
Yes it works for sure! Most ppl like arbor knot cuz its easy and quick.
Dude awesome video
Thx mate i appreciate it! 👍👍
So I been unknowningly tying backwards uni knots lol. Makes sense!!
Lol! Does it work for hooks?
@@rawrfishing yup works fine
Great tips for everybody jimbo and love the backwards uni and the two kinda half hitches Great job man.
Thx i appreciate it! 👍👍
Most excellent
thanks i appreciate it :)
well explained , looking at the curado bfs
Thx! It's a great reel. Look at the slx bfs. Same as curado, but sold in Asia. With yen down, you can get it around 150 to 160 depending on tax, shipping and the actual date of ordering. Try digitaka
I feel a little dumb for trying to tie to the spool while in the reel now. That is a great idea.
Don't feel dumb. No one born knowing everything. I consider u smart to be able to find and learn things online! Glad u have enjoyed the tip
@@rawrfishing thanks! I appreciate you sharing! My zephyr will be here next week. Have a dobyns sierra light for it. Really excited!
Should’ve done this with my super shallow vanquish spinning reel instead of having mono backing. My backing knot caught my line once the fish peeled off enough braid and the drag stopped working. Lost a big fish when it popped the leader knot 🥲
Awww that stinks, but yeah u can do this for spinnning reels too
thanks
Glad u found it useful
I've done straight braid like that for a long time, though I use the standard arbor knot instead of a uni.
It works too. I have also done it that way.
spooling my spinning reels I use several half hitches reversing direction
I tried that on BC reels and it seems to still slide.
Nice! I'll have to give this a shot and possibly just use it on all my reels moving forward. Do you find this effective for spinning reels too? BTW: I know you mentioned warping the spool, etc. Do you think this is an issue with BFS spools (that have a lot of the holes/cut-outs in them) in general when it comes to using them with braid and potentially landing bigger fish? If targeting larger models of fish, or if there's concern about hooking into an incidentally large one, is it a good idea to go with the solid BFS spools (the ones with no holes/cutouts in them) that may exist? Thinking about picking up a shallow spool for my Revo ALX...
I think it will work for spinning but I never tried as I never owned a shallow spool spinning reel. So I always add backing. Spinning reels use thinner lines so I would be wasting too much if I don't add backing. Yes the thinner and lighter the spools are susceptible to warping. There are bfs reels with thicker spools but of course it won't cast as great for light lures.
Not quite sure why you go with a uni knot when the arbor knot has such a slim profile, never had an arbor knot fail on me either.
But ima be taking your advice and applying it to my arbor knot, see what happens. Like the idea of using braid without a backing. Thanks!
Like Bruce Lee said, every martial arts got its pros and cons. Take the best that suit you and improve yourself while discarding what doesn't work! Some say he is the father of MMA! But any how, I am happy that at least one portion of this video can help ya!
Rawr recomend best line for bfs reel...
I think when it comes to line choices. It have to do a lot with an anglers equipment. Lure choices and casting style. So its very personalized. For me, I love the kastking fluorokote 4lbs. This is a copolymer line
Hi mate! Greetings from New Zealand, great video, I just received a Johncoo BFS reel and I was wondering how to spool it up! Do you put a leader on and how long would you normally have it? Many thanks!
It really depends on your fishing style and waters. I throw about a yard on. It also depends on your guides too. If you got small guides and you can't tie a thin connection knot.. you may want shorter leaders and or not use braided line at all and go straight mono/fluoro/copolymer
@@rawrfishing Thx brother. I ordered a Rosewood UL rod, so we will see how it goes.
Thanks for the tip! I picked up that same reel. I’ll be throwing 1/32 daredevil spoons only. New to Bfs. Targeting trout at lakes. Would you recommend maybe 2-4 lb line all the way through or braid to leader? Thanks for what you do.
No problem. But there is a problem. This reel at best is a L reel, not UL going down past 2 grams. 1/32 Oz going to be tough even with bearing upgrades and the thinnest lines. I would first suggest getting a different reel. Such as the Tsurinoya Dark Wolf Ultra, then roro micro bearings. Then the thinnest braid out there into leader. Anything below 0.6 gou for your braid
Thanks for what you do 🤙🏾.
Great tip - Thanks! How much line do you typically put on your BFS reels? I've got an SLX BFS and I can never seem to get the amount right. Either I have too little or too much.
Thx, 125 to ft for UL, 150 for L are my starting point
I’ve used the tiniest bit of sellotape for over 20 years and never had any adhesive problems 😂
Good for u. Not everyone uses the right one
Does this reel cast better (farther) with straight fluoro, or braid to leader?
I was thinking about using 6ib fluoro, or 6ib braid. Thanks for the videos and tips
Braid will be best because it's softer and lighter. Fluoro can cause some problems especially in the cold. They seems to spiral and puff out and cause a bit of bird nests when the spool slows down. At least for me. I stick with braid or soft mono. Braid to fluoro is best when u use lighter lures
@@rawrfishing
Thanks, appreciate it 👍
Jimbo how many yards of line do you put on the Zephyr spool?
Too much line and backlash is much more likely to occur?
One more question for you...
SLX BFS
or
Zephyr BFS
Which reel do you like better?
Thank you.
Thank you for advice.
SLX hands down. I may have helped make the Zephyr BFS.. But right now the price of YEN is down... Slx is a steal! I add enough line for what lures I need to throw plus I try to factor in fish running. So often I put 125 0.6 gou line for my UL and L for lures 2 to 3.5 grams.
@@rawrfishing Mahalo Jimbo your advice is always appreciated
@@rawrfishing 125 is in feet, yards or meters??
Jimbo what knot do you think I should use for some 10lbs braid to 6lbs fluoro? Keep up up the good work mah brother..
If u got micro guides, fg knot! Else you got ton of knots to play with! Slim beauty is nice
And thx for the love!
Definitely micro. Awesome. Just got two zephyr clicker models, absolutely stunning I have to say. 🙏 stay blessed jimbo..
@@karannaipaul157 sweet! enjoy the reels!
Hi, how much line should I put on my new Zephyr either 8 or 10 braid or 4lb P-Line?
Maybe 1/3rd spool or less If you are trying to achieve max distance for lures under 2.5 grams. Probably even less for lures under 1.75 grams. I spool 1/3rd at 4lb mono and I cast lures around 2.75 and up with this reel normally
@@rawrfishing , thank you for the quick reply. I’m trying to figure out what 1/3 spooled would be. Would that be that say an 8th of an inch of the side of the spool is showing, not spooled full?
@@joepicasso69 I don't normally measure. it's all about the eye estimation lol! #thefishdontwait and I don't waste time on exact formulas :P
What gauge and how many meters would you recommend on this reel or something slightly larger capacity? Like a BMC100?
Don't know that reel, but it depends on your lures your throw and the fishery... Trial and error lead me to do 125 to 150 feet for most of my setups
Is the kastking zephyr good for 1/32 ounce lure if i paired it with the correct rod? And do you know a good rot to pair it with? (im on a budget)
No, this reel is better for 1/16thx jigs plus a plastic. I would suggest 2.5 grams and up and on a L rod rather than UL.
It you want a budget reel and rod for bfs for UL, try the Tsurinoya Dragon C602UL rod and Tsurinoya dark wolf ultra with the Roro micro bearings! Can do the 1 gram stuff with little line spooled on
@@rawrfishing Thanks man
Would the line slip if the spool gets wet?
Depending on line it may a bit. But since I don't over spool, I normally can cast out far as I can and then pull the line out until I hit the end and readjust. Probably happened only a few times only. Zero problems with thicker line
I stop using backing in every type of baitcaster after a Koi almost out spool me. As long as it is tight and X4 or X3 braid it is good to go
Lol them Kois are beasts!
Why didnt you put the knot over one of the holes in the spool? Then it gets pushed into the hole instead of creating a lump in your line lay.
Thin line here so it is virtually not there but I do that too. Just Left it off the video... ooops!
Hey bro? I just want to ask if The Kastking Zephyr is a saltwater approved? Nice video btw🔥
I don't think it is. Didn't say on the product page. But I know that won't stop ppl lol. Just ensure to do more maintenance
@@rawrfishing true, with some maintenance some people will use it, for me I think it can be use in saltwater because it has a double shielded SS ball bearing right?? just my opinion, anyway thanks for the info bro!
i think so too! I think if you just ask the question on amazon, they should get back to ya pretty quickly.
@@rawrfishing yeah, thanks bro❤️
how much do you put on? I always followed the rule of 1/8 of an inch from the top of the spool but these spools are only 1/8 of an inch deep
about 20 to 25% more line than you can cast if you doing braided line to keep weight low. Should be more than enough for a season when adding leader materials.
@@rawrfishing thanks for the reply, how do you monitor that while winding it on?
@@kyfisher3662 either have a line counter tool or count rotation. Every reel got an average inch per turn estimate;)
@@rawrfishing thanks mate!
I’m waiting for mu Zephyr to arrive, does anyone know how much 0.04mm braided line goes on the spool? I’m using Climax u-light iBraid on my spinning reel, and thought that it would be great on baitcasting reel too.
It should hold a lot, but depending on your application.. Do you need more than 100 ft? I certainly do not when fishing UL
@@rawrfishing 100ft should be enough.
@@NakkiJuustus you will find that there will be plenty of room for more than 100 ft of thin 0.04mm line!
I put 10lb yellow Power Pro on my Zephyr. I did the knot that you explained, but noticed even after 3 wraps; the line still slips on the spool. I put a thin strip of electrical tape to hold the line from slipping.
Oh that is interesting
i did the same way like you
Awesome! I think most ppl does it as well. But many new folks joining the bfs community and I promised to make a ton of useful content for everyone. Let me know if there are anything you would like me to make for any beginners;)
i was confused when i started to learn baitcaster. i cant threw micro lure because i use regular deep spol reel. maybe you could make a video about bfs takle setup if you have not make it yet.
@@eriksalipadang7878 I can whip something up to introduce bfs shallow spools and explain it if that is what you are looking for :)
What line thickness do you recommend for this reel? I always hear pounds or lbs, but in my country we use the thickness like 0,10 of 0,08. Do you know that?
Sorry I do not on the top if my head. My country uses line rating on what it can handle before warping/breaking. I am sure every brand will give you both line diameter and rating. With that said 4lb mono seems to be a sweet spot for this reel as it have a low chance of line getting into the spool.
I just grabbed my spool of Sufix siege 4lb spool and it says it is .008 inches in diameter! The line almost never goes into the spool, but it can happen with this diameter at very low percentage.
@@rawrfishing that is 0,20 mm. And you can throw small baits with that? On all my rods i fish 0.06mm and 0.08mm that is : 0,0023inch and 0,0031 inch and around 15 pounds.
I wanted to buy smaller braid , but i think im gonna buy some bigger then otherwise its gonna stuck betwrrn my spook
@@geertwilders5566 yes, you can reference my cast testing videos or my plain fishing vids with the Zephyr to see what I throw
I’ve tried 6 lb test P Line flourocarbon and it lodge in between the spool and the reel. Then I read about this problem with cheap Chinese bfs reels on UA-cam and the cure is to use 15 lb braid and can still throw 2 gram lures so going to try that.
Can zephyr baitcasting fishing on saltwater?
Sure! Rinse well and do Maintenance after several trips like any reels and it will be good to go
@@rawrfishing please make video how u maintenance it , because im new using this bc
@@rozariorubin794 perhaps in the future but right now I do not have the capacity
How many feet of line do you usually spool up?
Depends what your goals are. If I am casting 1 gram for my most UL reels. 75 ft. 2 grams 100, 3 grams 125. 4 grams 150. Those are base line and then I factor in fish I am targeting and location as there might be big fish to play. Add additional for fish that runs.
Any opposition with using tape method?
depending on what tape. some folks use electrical tape. saltwater surf casters have done it and I have seen a few UA-cam tutorials and they all use it... but i am telling you that is bad! Some tape have poor adhesives and will come off and go into your reel. I would hate to clean that!
@@rawrfishing thanks for the reply Jimmy. Will stop using tape then. I usually do an arbor knot with one half hitch on each side of the spool
No problem! how does your version work compared to this?
How much line to you put on a bfs reel
Depends! But when in doubt... 75, 100, 125 and 150 ft of PE line depending on what I am doing.
The lighter the lure, the less Line one need and should have to keep the total spool weight low. So for my 1 gram and below adventures, I do 75 ft.
My standard for UL and L is 125 ft. My L to ML can also do 150 ft.
Kastking
Yes?
I'd just leave the spool in place without removing it from the frame... thread the tag end of the main line through the line-guide and INTO one of them holes on the spool ....go 2-3 rotations round the spool.... AND then pull out the tag end from the spool hole and tie a Uni Knot . When ready , just pull the Uni knot in snug.... and you're done .... alot faster.... without line twist too
This way , you dont need to suffer the grief of removing and then re-seating a tight tolerance frame/spool like the Aldebaran or the Conquest which takes a alot of sweat and wriggling to seat it back just right later
That's not always a good way to do it as some bfs spools are thin and that can result on two things... line being cut or spool being warped. But you know your gears better than me! So as long as you find success and ease with your method then that is all good. Lastly... not all bfs spools have holes.
@@rawrfishing haha read carefully what I wrote.... i never said tie the braid into the holes .... just use the holes to hold and roll over the line first THEN remove it and do your uni knot...same end result as you without removing the spool
@@en8718 "into one of them holes on the spool"
@@rawrfishing "...AND then pull out the tag end from the spool hole..." never mind lol
@@en8718 that's still bad because the force will be distributed at the hole area of that spool and also line can rub on it to cut.
Do I have to take out my spool?
Yes as portrayed
How much 6 lb braid line should I expect to put on this reel??
Measurements in feet, yards or meters??
A lot... They said 110 yards for 8lb braid on their website. You can find more details on their website
@@rawrfishing would 100 yds of 10 lb work safely to spool on this reel??
@@baileycoach as stated, you can check the website for line capacities. But I don't think one can utilize more than 50 yards on this reel. You are not going to cast far for small lures anyway.
@@rawrfishing thank you for your sound advice.
This may be a stupid question but does this work with regular baitcasters?
i never tried it with thicker line, but if you spool on thin braided line on a full sized spool, then you probably should add backing. braided line cost too much, which is why shallower spools are the way to go! There are ton of reels (especially the japanese ones) that are shallow spool that isn't bfs. For instance, look at the Tatula models from Daiwa. Ton of small capacity spools but isn't at BFS level. Spool plenty of braided line on those :)
also, if it's in the budget, Lew's has the Pro SP that has a shallow spool designed for skipping and pitching (SP). Got one with a gift card and so far I'm pleased.
@@rawrfishing thanks!
i saw that one. that one you get to tie onto the spool. need it to jack those stuff out of heavy cover :P
Not that your way isn’t the better way, but if you apply the electrical tape to the braided line, ie. folded onto itself like a flag, instead of the spool you don’t need to worry about the adhesive residue.
That could work! i got hot summers here and i store my stuff in my car and go fishing after work. i think that would definitely melt the residue lol. the water you fish could also have ton of chemical runoff that can get into the tape and help break it down. risks that i wish to avoid. but that is a great tip! I hope if people can find this useful! thanks for sharing!
@@rawrfishing if you’re fanatical like me you can also dip the end of the line in Plasti Dip 24 hours before you spool up 😜
@@briansumma528 ohhhhhhhh snaps! That's epic idea!
Have replayed how he ties that knot 2:38 multiple times and still can't follow it. Considering this is a key element on how to spool the reel, you'd think this point would be a lot clearer. For us new anglers, knot tying isn't second nature.
This is just a specialized uni knot. Feel free to watch a few more times. You can slow down the video if you like using the player! It helps!
Sorry to say this: the sample knots at 2:11 mark is big because you are showing us like 30 lb mono.
When using PE Braid for BFS Reel, that wont happen because of how thin the braid you will use (e.g. Varivas PE .6).
I used thicker line so you can see the knot easier on video. It was not used for fishing. Line was removed after this video was done.
Yes I usually use 0.6 gou for my UL and L bfs fishing
I also noticed that the line is not even across the spool and a bit bulging in the center. Dont feel comfortable with this. The line should be even and tightly reeled to avoid bird nesting 😢
@@pequenioedgarito3067 as stated... Thicker line was used for your video consumption sakes
While this is a great tip for spooling line I think you're totally missing the whole point of bfs. Why would ever even use braid for bfs?
Because it keeps the total weight of the spool light so that you can achieve the best casting experience for light lures for both distance and accuracy. That said, i think you missed the point of bfs 😜
Braid is far superior when it comes to weight, casting distance, accuracy, strength to diameter ratio, it’s low diameter allows for more line capacity, lack of spool memory and overall better line manageability.
The real question is, based on that, why wouldn’t you use it? If the answer is you don’t want to tie braid directly to your baits, tie on a fluorocarbon or mono leader with an FG knot, or mark the braid up with a sharpie.