Can you write REAL music on an iPad? CUBASIS 3 [REVIEW]
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- Опубліковано 13 сер 2020
- CUBASIS 3 for ipad is great for those who want to compose on the go - but how easy is it to use? Can you really make proper music on an ipad? Guy Michelmore checks it out by recording some Celtic Oud and … mouth percussion? Sure… let’s see how this goes.
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The world needs more upbeat people like you.
I love this channel. One of those that makes youtube worthwhile.
Yep. I’ve been using Beatmaker 3 and Cubasis for several years now. I also know billboard songs and Grammy nominated songs that have been created only on the iPad or iPhone.
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Amazing
@@Delane21Wells yep!
Can you name some of them? Would love to see what's been done.
@@HammyHavoc Yep. Here's a few that come to mind: Henny Tha Bizness is a great one. He has a lot of videos showing how he uses it. Steve Lacy produced music for Kendrick Lamar on the iPhone. The Gorillaz made an entire album on the iPad. Madlib made an entire album on the iPad. Mannie Fresh, Just Blaze, Buckwild have all used the iPad (maybe not Cubasis specifically in any of those cases though).
You are always so entertaining! Thanks for your continued contribution to the smiles on our faces!
Happy to hear that!
Bought Cubasis just yesterday, was looking for something just like (exactly) like this and I have it today from someone who's channel I look out for every day hoping for a new amazing video. Thanks a lot, sir, you are a great inspiration for me!.
glad to help
Nice! Also check out, Pete Johns on UA-cam. He just started doing Cubasis 3 overviews a few days ago.
@@dafingaz ooh thanks a lot!. I will surely check out.
AARYAN TAJANPURE no problem!
Nice one, guy! Have StaffPad for the iPad but I haven’t yet messed around with Cubasis. Thanks a mil!
As a side note, Steinberg are very keen on updating and incorporating user suggestions and input. Updates are super fast and furious AND useful. You can now group channels which was not available in Cubasis 2; a must have when mixing an entire orchestra!
I love you because you are a Cubase user!
I love you even more for trying out my fav DAW - Cubasis!!
The only thing I would recommend and suggest if you want to use Cubasis is use a stylus/Apple Pencil. It makes navigation and editing less frustrating. Newer iPads do support mouse and trackpads so that’s good too. When I’m on the go, sometimes I’ll take a 25 keyboard or Fishman midi guitar, a usb converter and usb hub to connect storage, dongles, midi transmitter, audio interface (maybe) and headphones. I recorded a client using his midi drums, vocals, fishman midi guitar for guitar and bass as well as keys. Went to my studio and transferred it to Nuendo. Cubasis is very handy, just need less fatty fingers.
You are a top drawer bloke !! Love your attitude and upbeat nature. Well done !!
My studio is built around my ipad (an ipad mini 5 actually) using cubasis3 and it works great. Looks funny with a small ipad, but runs everything (61key midi controller, akai mpd16 for drums using pro acoustic drum samples, steinberg interface, 1Tb external HD, and a usb mouse. All plugged into a powered USB hub). Using apps like isymphonic for orchestral parts. I’m on a budget, but the end product possibilities are anything but budget sounding. 😃
I don't even have an iPad but I'm obviously going to watch this. 🤟
It's come a long way. I got my ipad pro off ebay for a quarter of the price of a brand new one
Thanks for the overview, have heard a lot of people recommending Cubasis 3 now!
Good review. Recently got an iPad Pro 2020 myself, and just got Cubasis 3 as a companion app to my PC version (not a Mac and never will), but honestly this thing works quite well.
Although there are still some smaller bugs (very randomly tracks refuse to play - just close other apps then) which will be ironed out eventually. And you can import your stuff into your Mac/PC version (needs the Cubasis Importer setup, which is available on the Steinberg homepage), It replaces the mobile instruments with GM MIDI stuff on the PC, but that should be no big deal to change those quickly.
As for spitting out ideas, this seems to work great. Now I just need to think if I should invest into the Apple Pencil as well, as for instance moving the locators by fingers can be a small hassle.
Fantastic as usual...! Thank you very much Master of Masters...! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻. Greetings from Mexico
You're welcome
Guy "I don't tan, I stroke" Michelmore. Sunscreen, Guy. Sunscreen
Great video! Now if only Cubase on desktop looked as great and modern as Cubasis, I really like the interface :)
I stared recording and mixing on my iPhone and I’m starting to get really good resorts.
i am using it with the special iRIG PRO DUO. perfect stuff for the field recordings
I down loaded a version of Cubase for the Ipad a few years ago and it wasn't the best. However, like everything things move on. Great video.
You can plug a small midi keyboard in to the iPad using the usb adaptor and then it becomes much easier. I do this with GarageBand when I’m traveling.
You can then import the raw idea in to Logic when you get back to your studio DAW.
Yes but the joy of the ipad for me is it is always there and doesnt need anything else. I prefer a laptop but this is a great always with your kind of thing
Hello. Glad to see you so happy with Cubasis 3... Did you (or anyone here) face the problem with crashes? I've bought full version and the same day I had a little 1h session with one of my students... And in this hour Cubasis 3 crashed... 6 times.... Is this normal?
Just splurged a little stupidly on this just on the spur, I got the $35. (USA) version, which I think was the "premiere" version in the Apple store. Hey, I was lucky to happen on this review 1st, lol. You're one of the cooler reviewers yet; you made me giggle, lol. And you clarified a couple of things, very good, guy! Having just got it, I'll say str8 away that it's the most "DAW-like" app I've seen for iPad so far. Garageband would be great if they didn't impose the weird time restrictions. Idk how long my "song" (*koff koff* noise slab 🙄) is going to be. What am I, Kreskin? And it has DAW-like accoutrements; actual mastering limiters, mixer channels, EQs, compressors...I'm a hard Joe Meek poseur; gotta have my compressors... even tape/tube warmer-uppers. Can't wait to have time to go exploring it in depth. Sorry yakking too much. Music gear is fascinating all round, lol, makes me giddy. Greetings from Texas. 😁
Can you save/ load files from external drive? My iPad storage is limited, and will be mixing around 10GB wav files. My next option is laptop, using Reaper. Thanks
Cool vid.
Verry useful 👍🙏
50 quid for the android version. Considering how close in price cubase elements is to cubasis 3, do they compare feature wise?
Thanks guys, a goodie for an old Steinberg 16 user :)
Thats going back a bit
The challenge is now on for Michael to create some really proper music on just the iPad. Oh and not over a week but on a day train trip or day at the beach etc.
Yes you can. I can knock out one decent backing track with about 2 days work on an ipad with cubasis.
I thought your ice cream was a rose in the begining haha
Unlike FL Studio Mobile, does it have multi-Part (track) selection in piano roll? This is essential if you work with piano roll exclusivly.
Just got this app yesterday as it seems to be reduced in price, its certainly workable however I did just order a stylus to use for editing the midi notes which is a bit clumsy just using your fingers.
One suggestion, pick a drum part first, unless you have a riff that just spontaniusly came to you. this helps when making a loop for rhythm and timing
how can we import multiple audio files from mediabay to the project in cubasis? I got stems from a client which have 40 stems and i have to drag it individually from the audio foler in mediabay to the project which is frustrating!!
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the mic doesnt work , or the whole device doesnt work just because of this.
This guy gets UA-cam. Just discovered him. He rocks!!!!
Guy, your entering a whole new world here. Ive been in the IOS music community for many years. I have beta tested many of the new music , and sound design apps that get released. great music apps in AU and inter app audio format can be chained and used together. I have Cubasis and rarely ever use it. there are many other great apps. I pretty much Run and sync and link all apps and midi sequencers etc. in an App called AUM
check it out I think you will like it a lot. if you have any questions let me know. it’s so fun
Thank you! Ill defnitely check it out
Guy Michelmore also another great resource for IOS music apps is the audiobus forum. forum.audiob.us
they have all the latest releases, upcoming apps, and direct contact with developers of these great apps. it’s free and a great place to check out new stuff
I was in trouble because I didn't know how to operate the iPad. UP Thank you.
So glad you done this... I've been using cubasis 2 for around 4 years and done many songs... adding plug ins help. great video guy....you may find one or two bits on my channel if you want to take a look guy?..
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hi can you tell me how cubasis scribe for string or Orchestral,thanks .i find it not work when I scribe at Modulation part
Can i import audio there and edit it? Are these VST instruments actually included in software?
It may well be very good, but when I'm not working on my main desktop workstation, I still want to be able to use a proper library, open a proper DAW, and use all the same tools I have on the desktop for compatability. Have a Surface Pro 6, fanless, 8GB RAM, 128 SSD, Windows 10, you can get them for £600 in the sales, proper USB support etc, and I can't see anything turning my head away from that for portability and compatability.
Andy Nicholson Apple turns my head away from your portability and compatibility solution 24/7 ;)
I'm new to composing and I have a Surface Pro 6 (for business) and I'm quite impressed how good it's been so far
How does Cubasis 3 app compare with free GarageBand for iPad?
Great presentation style! God bless
You should check out the StaffPad app for iPad.
It's something I've been looking into and it seems absolutely amazing (for those of us who like to write music with pen and paper.)
It has built-in sample player featuring libraries from Spitfire, Cinesamples, Orchestral Tools and more, all reworked to work on iPad.
I am checking it out now actually
@@ThinkSpaceEducation
Oh great!
I hope you'll make a video about it :)
@@MiloPaulus thats the plan
@@ThinkSpaceEducation
Awesome!!
StaffPad is awesome. Probably the best orchestral libraries on iOS.
This is an awesome recording app but I still don’t understand how Steinberg priced V3 at $50 because I can’t see how it’s that much different from V. 2, which I’m still using. When it goes on sale at 50% off again, I may spring for it but even that seems over-priced if you already bought V.1 or 2. 🤬
I got a sharpy marker but it does not seem to write on iPads to well
This video is good but I would suggest to get a Rode Wireless Go for better mic....
Great app GUY now i don't need to rely on 60 free days DAW whenever I need to travel xD
I scored music for an entire film (93 min) using Cubasis 2 and 3 on an iPad 5th gen. So, ya...it's a thing. Miroslav Philharmonik 2 is a must-have for scoring in Cubasis. It's incredible.
Crikey thats amazing - what was the movie?
@@ThinkSpaceEducation Due to be released next year...Can't release the name as I'm on a gag order, but I can tell you it's about the resurrection of Jesus. Indie film company seeking backers for it as we speak. All done on Cubasis! To be honest, Guy, I didn't use the on-screen keyboard, I used my M-Audio Oxygen 49 as a MIDI controller, an AKG C-414 for any vocals, a FocusRite 2+2 Audio Interface, and Waves mastering plugins. Completely portable setup. BTW, I LOVE your videos, and am also one of your subscribers. Keep them coming!
Yours In Harmony,
-Poke.
I forgot all about Philharmonik! What movie did you score? Is the soundtrack available?
@@dafingaz Not available yet, the film is supposed to be released sometime next year. I'm supposed to be keeping hush-hush about it, but because of the premise of this video, I had to chime in just to say that anything can be done with today's technology. It just gets better day by day, year by year.
EDIT:
BTW, I used Philharmonik 1 and 2 through Sample Tank. Phenomenal.
Slow Poke Productions That’s awesome! Congratulations! I’m hoping to convince Spitfire Audio to bring some of their stuff over to iPad (outside of StaffPad; more like brining LABS and BBC Discover over as AUV3 apps). Embertone was doing some for a while. I mainly use iSymphonic, BeatHawk, and Pure Synth Platinum for orchestral sounds...forgot I had Philharmonik collecting digital dust. LOL...
Ok, but I still don't get why this app costs like a desktop daw? What you've shown can be done in garage band which is free.
How's the stream deck working?
"Blockbuster on an ipad" Hanz Zimmer
Guy, try opening an orchestral midi file with Cubasis, see what you think.
great video!
Please do this but with staffpad
Great for a sketchbook, can you transfer the projects in to Cubase in your studio?
yes.. you can transfer projects. i think they are cbp files
Can you get kontakt and other vst ?
That fact is you need a Bluetooth midi keyboard, perhaps a 49 or 61 key preferably, foldable ones even better if there ever exists in the market. You can then take them anywhere and start jotting ideas. You should then import them onto Cubase and do serious work there.
im just curius, does it have a function like you can draw a chord instantly on the midi?
nope
I am not a musician, i Pad or Cubase owner/user - But I love your energy. PS could you send one of those lollies along the coast. Boy it's close.
Solero smoothy lolly coming up
out of context Guy, have you *any* recomendation for Linux DAW's?
thanks and cheers from Portugal
I'm certainly not an authority on the subject, but I would personally recommend Ardour. It's open source, and free. It's honestly really powerful. If you check out a guy here on UA-cam called Unfa, he has a lot of videos where he uses Ardour as well as other free software to make electronic music.
@@FenlonAcoustic thanks, I think I've stumbled with him a couple of days ago.
Reaper
The Gorillaz had made the album ‘the fall’ on their iPad 2 in the year 2010
Yep. iOS production is nothing new. I’ve been making music with iOS for over 10 years. 🙌🏾
I got a record deal in the early nineties and used only an amiga.
Pieter Auper that’s awesome!
@@dafingaz which daw for ipad is the best?
@@thescreenviewer1349 Beatmaker 3 for me
Cubasis is nice for a few things. I use it for rehearsing musicals. Send the new mic back. ;)
i remember the very first incarnation of cubasis, it was truly woeful
Richard James ..so was the first Cubase
thank you.. but I'll stick to garage band or even roland zenbeats, which are free..
True
Zenbeats is pretty limited on the free version!
I use GarageBand. It’s pretty damn good for a free daw
Also GB has guitar strumming and whatnot
Why did they make it to only work with certain interfaces? Can’t get out of demo mode unless I have one of their approved interfaces. I was really hoping it would be a daw that I could use.
Henny Tha business: Hold my beer
That phaser on the mouth percussion was actually going somewhere.
Wait until developers port their iOS/iPadOS apps back to desktop with the new architecture Apple is going to introduce, LOL.
Not sure about other apps but you would definitely see Cubasis on desktops!
Are you saying we're going to be able to use our ipad apps on our macbooks? That would be something.
Zibbe Zabba yep, watch recent keynotes by Apple
@@MobileMusic Excellent news. Thanks.
Celtic Oud Boomchika!
👏🏻 Bravo
Now, it is not fair to compare the onscreen keyboard of the iPad with your computer, that has several mechanical keyboards attached. To compare, either play the keyboard on the computer screen with your mouse, or attach you mechanical keyboard to the iPad! Also, it is not fair to compare the meager stuff within CuBasis to you desktop sound and effect library. To compare, better use better additional Apps as IAA or AU plugin, for example the piano App Ravenscroft 275 Piano and lots and lots of other fantastic stuff!
I like the look of this app but it’s limited as far as sound design which is a must for real producers. Beat maker 3 is far better. It’s like REASon for iPad
Check out Doug at the soundest room, for all you need to know about making music on an iPad. I recorded my last accordion and bagpipe cd just on iPad. Also get a camera connection kit to allow to plug an audio interface and midi keyboard in, via a powered usb hub. Check out isymphonic for top orchestral sounds, and also notion for score writing which uses sounds sampled from the London symphony orchestra.
LOL 😂 at 2:07.
yes! One for the iPad!
I think cubasis 3 is broken on ios 14 on the ipad.
I can’t record anything when using sampletank as an interapp device,I see level on the mixer but when in recording mode,there is no midi or audio files recorded.
Lost to what I have to do to grt it recording,the tracks are armed as well.
Prefer just using a daw on my PC,Apple very flaky,PC takes anything you throw at it.
You could still connect a midi keyboard to the ipad by using a camera adapter
yes
Guy Michelmore still a useful video
I just want Apple to port Logic over to iPad, or at least support AU instruments in GarageBand
Garageband picks up my AU instruments and efx okay. I think if you tried it again, it should sort on that.
@@gwugluud It does on Mac, but I was talking about iPad
@Nathaniel Walker Oh nice thanks! It would just be nice though if I could use Spitfire products
Just wait a couple years when the Macs get a change to the processors. With the same chip running in the computers and iPad it would be REALLY easy to have full desktop applications on the iPad (Ableton/Maschine/FL) That is if Apple allows it which there has been no word on that (which I have seen anyway); I really wish they do allow it as iPads outsell Macs by a huge margin.
I want an iPad with a quick dock station where I don't have to plug anything in just set it down/in and its all connected. Have that go to two monitors and usb hub and that's the home setup. Need to go on a trip grab the iPad and a controller powered through USB C and run the full version of Ableton/Maschine/Logic Pro/FL whatever your flavor.
No need for the "is it a real daw" as it would be the same as the desktop version.
The first thing I notice in every Cuba’s is demo is their eyes being dragged all over the place by these hidden icons instead of just clicking on the clip of audio or midi . And nothing ever seems “locked” because of the minutia of navigating these objects on the entire circumference of the timeline. It’s the fidgety protocols that kill my work flow deader than dead. It’s too needy. Peace Christo👽
I have lot off music production apps for Ipad, mostly instruments, chords cheaters and mangle effects, but cubasis, and other daws are not good for mixing inside Ipads.
I beg to differ. Cubasis is incredibly powerful for mixing/mastering. IMHO, there's no better portable DAW for iOS or any other mobile platform.
There are many powerfull DAWs, Instruments , FXs, Mastering tools available for iPad. In a blind test, nobody could tell an iPad from a computer or a hardware synth . A lot of great youtubers have already made music and demos that leave no doubt about it. The only enormous problem is Apple policy about file transfert. Korg Gadget alone, has made the iPad indispensable for me.
I have several hundred also. Lol. I do fine with mixing (mainly in Beatmaker 3 or Cubasis. Sometimes Auria Pro).
Slow Poke Productions You would never be Mastering on an iPad... 👀 🙄
@@leetronix Then I must've spent the last 3 years of my life in limbo, because, yes indeed, I did. If you know what you're doing, it's no different than mastering in Logic Pro X on a laptop, or Pro Tools anywhere.
Can you help me. I am late with this comment. I yesterday got the BBC Symphony Orchestra and Same time the book from Walter Piston Orchestration, what will be very difficult to read for me because i speak no english. Means reading and translation take decades. I search since a longer time the Sound of a flute with a Double tounge like Ian Anderson from Yethro Tüll ( Lokomotive Breath). Maybe you know a resource and make a flute special for double tounge with the flute. I guess a Lot of Fans understand and love a review because this technique is crazy and still popular. Thanks in advance Daniela.
VSL's Flute library has a fluttertongue articulation, which, I believe, is what you are looking for. It is not available for IPad, though, but for Windows/Mac.
@@nickie_katharina_foenshauge I do not have iPad Problem i see is the USB key again. I use very often Reaper and Fairlight in Davinchi. cubase i have the elements but here i am pretty new. most i use realy opensource if possible.
@@nickie_katharina_foenshauge any other idea?
I'm afraid not. Sorry.
The audio from that headset mic is shocking!
So much mic noise! Great content as always but this time it was such a relief on the ears when it stopped.
Sorry - truth is - Im on holiday this week! (shhh) so I was building up several videos so I could have some time off so things went through quickly
Guy Michelmore And here we viewers are grumbling about sound problems! Ingrates! Have a great holiday, mate.
the other mic is really loud :)
The iPad is more expensive than the 16 GB ram gaming laptop I use for working and for music.
True but sometimes having something that portable more so than a laptop makes it doable
@@ThinkSpaceEducation I do agree...but I couldn´t afford it! Thankfully the laptop is still quite portable. I love your videos, by the way.
I dont understand why they cant just put cubase on the ipad, im so sick of those weird mobile versions of daws like why? We live in 2022 and still not possible to work like on a pc on an ipad
it has apple pencil support now. much better to work with.
REAL™ music)))
Yes you can. I use other programs and wrote full arrangements on my iPad.
Cool
Yes you can, also with Korg Gadget 2, and even write scores with the BBC Symphonic Orchestra and other industry standard libraries with #StaffPad 😁
Yes Im looking at Staffpad now
WAIT Staffpad's got BBC?
Mr. Cat yes as add-ons, also the “Cinematic” libraries, and the Berlin series. And the articulations is played according to the score notation. Hence no need to have multiple sample tracks. 😁 I really love it!
StaffPad on iPad requires Apple Pencil though
@@dennisrudin6907 I wish there was a list of all the available libraries anywhere
Kelts in Turkey?
Actualy, yes. Around 270 BC they invaded what is known today as Galatia, a Turkish province.
who knew.... !
I would love Cubasis on iPad if you could look at your plugins to adjust things. It's quite useless.
Good video but disappointing app that makes punching impossible to do with any efficiency. In short, every time your re-record over a new section (punch in or just doing it manually) the prior recorded layer (event) is kept active. Then on playback you get all re-recorded layers playing back at once, with no way to mute them, or exclude from mix down. This is one of the most bizzare oversights in design of a DAW I have come across. In short if you need to edit recordings by re-recording sections or doing punches, DO NOT get this app.
Second viewer, I feel so special :)
You are special Paul - obviously
I have Cubasis le2 with the option of upgrading to 3. It’s awkward to use and the editing isn’t that much better than GarageBand. Also lots of extras to pay for including exporting wav files.
Audio and mixing is good in cubase
But programming is much easier on fl studio
Bum boom chiken chicka
I've never believed English men and now... it's not an exclusion! ))
GUUUUUUY! Move the mic away from yer head, you blowin' inta my ears, dude.
Sorry
@@ThinkSpaceEducation No offence, I just want to hear you clearly. Loving the content, thank you.