For an automatic 0-60 7.7 seconds is plenty quick! He said it's one and a half seconds slower than the manual. So the manual 0-60 = 6.35 seconds... Not slow at all for a not so pricey NA!
i was hurt on the job and became disabled, im unable to drive a manual any more. this video was helpful and insightful for me i know a large amount of people who just are not interested in getting a manual transmission car for what ever reason there are performance oriented people and then there are the vast majority of regular automobile buyers
This car is grate after you do a few things like tune, rims and tires, lower final drive ratio, springs, sway bars, exhust if you want, and intake. That makes this car a lot of fun
in the usa something like 95% of all new cars are auto's. I think in this car though there will be more manuals sold than auto's but there is still a few auto's getting around, probably like 35% or so.
I am 6-5 200 pounds. I have legroom and headroom in the BRZ. 95% of the time I am driving I am going back and forth to work or picking up grocery's. I am not snatching 2nd and drifting sideways at that point. Most WRX and Z drivers are just as responsible on public roads. Yes I take the long way home sometimes. That is when the brz shines. Driving down a winding back road at 45 mph in the middle of 5th gear is when the BRZ outperforms any of the cars you mentioned. It's "fun" My avg is 33 mpg.
Another reviewer tested the FR-S automatic, and still liked it, and has paddle shifters just like the BRZ. However, sports car purists prefer the manual transmission, and I'd prefer the manual like yourself.
This car is $27k, for $29k you can get the WRX wiith 70 more hp that is also AWD and has three more seats. This car is good but not for the price. Should be like $22k
The BRZ have a better chasis as is RWD. BRZ is a Sport car. Have a better chasis, better balance than a WRX RWD is much more fun to drive than 4WD Three more seats. Who is buying a sport coupe is not looking for seats. Not all in the car world is Horsepower Why the people cant understand ?
The WRX is far less attractive, and far less reliable. Even with less power, I'd rather have an FRS or BRZ because it's far more attractive and with some basic aftermarket performance bolt-ons it can be made sufficiently powerful enough to be an incredibly fun and reliable car, which it already is despite not being super powerful. A good car isn't always about big hp numbers. This car was engineered to be fun and practical with perfect balance and stellar handling and driver feel. It has a lot of potential and is a wonderful platform for tuners.
The only thing the BRZ has on the WRX is looks. It's one of the more attractive cars on the road so it's unfortunate they didn't give it more power. That said, I think I would still choose the BRZ over the WRX because I can modify it for more power, and because it's not ugly like the WRX. The BRZ may be lacking in horsepowee but it has everything else going for it, and it is basically a perfect tuner platform.
I am not impresed with the sound of the BRZ. The Vteck Honda's are some of the best sounding Japanese cars ever. The new Mustang and the Fiat 500 Abarth dont need no sound chamber. They sound awesome.
there is only so much you can do with a 2.0L engine with a catalytic converter and a factory intake and exhaust systems. Gotta roll with the punches and take what you can get anymore.
Mustangs are good, but any BR-Z or FR-S will dance around any Mustang and get better gas mileage. I'd love to buy and FR-S and the Mustang, but if I had to chose only one, it'd have to be the FR-S.
If it was a Toyota it would be 2 to 3k more and the dealers would load it with options and they would not met production goals. Mr Toyota did the right thing making it a scion. It is the cheapest version of the car in the world. It only comes one way for under 25k.
On the street they are awesome! Drive the car before you judge it. The Japanese just are not that great at stopping cars. The Z's brakes are sad. My last 2000 Celica GT had the worst brakes I have seen on a modern car. Slotted and drilled front rotors solved the problem. If you want nice binders American or better German is the way to go.
The STi sucks gas at twice the rate of the BRZ has turbo lag and understeer on dry pavement. The Z is to dam heavy for its size and you must be 5-9 or less to really get comfortable in it. It weighs 400 pounds more than the BRZ and you feel that weight. It also cant stop. To much motor for the braking system.
Overall fail. Costs too much underpowered. If this was sold at $20k they would have a top seller worth the money. The car sits really low and there is no lumbar support. Uses premium fuel something alot of reviewers forget to mention. Good car just costs too much for what it offers. WRX is a better deal.
"bringing the return to the pure sports car type to the market" I know they have to make interesting sound bites, but the MX-5 Miata is still here. Lighter, cheaper, a pure two seater instead of a compromised 2 + 2. I like the FRS and BRZ, but they only sound really special when you ignore the already around MX-5 Miata.
Cool car. Pretty small. Way overpriced. Dealers have a $3k+ markup. Handles pretty good but not spectacular. They talk about the handling cuz thats all they can talk about. The auto is ridiculously slow. The stick is better but for the money go get a wrx. The wrx is faster more room more versatile and costs the same.
The BRZ has far more space for the driver gets 30% better fuel economy and weighs 400 pounds less. On the street the BRZ is more fun also. On the track the z would smoke it.
i have driven a toyota gt86 and it doesn't need more power, i know its kinda sluggish if u don't trash the engine but thats fun work and what u said are so not accurate, sad fantasist
19 mpg city/31 mpg highway the brz gets closer to 34 MPG highway and 25 MPG city, trust me I love mustangs, since I was a little kid, but they have gotten way to far out of my price range, and I would feel like a pussy buying the 2013 mustang without the 5.0L but at 35-40 grand thats a bit steep but I understand. I would rather buy this and mod it up to be a fun everyday driving drift machine.
one more thing i must add, is watching and reading top gear uk 'wrong'? wtf man, for fucks sake 350 million people love them and im wrong for reading their magazine and listening to their advice?? if the internet saw this u will be flamed so hard
Good car. Prob handles great. A little overpriced I think b/c it's underpowerd But at the end of the day how will you feel when I beat you in my FUCKING MINI VAN grocery getter with my two toddlers in the back seat.
LOL, umm, not too good, not too good at all. Maybe I could at least tell myself I would have you on the corners, but that is assuming you are not a nut and I am not a shit driver...either way, being overtaken by you in your "grocery getter" while being laughed at by your toddlers actually is really going to hurt me, please, just please don't, lay off the gas and let me have the edge, if just by a small margin, just please be a nice person no need to be cruel.. :/ ;)
Not me I hate that pig motor. 18mpg and turbo lag with the exhaust from a vacuum cleaner no thank you. Next year a 300 hp turbo 2.0 will replace that hog. The WRX will also go on a 300 pound diet.
Yup don’t want to worry about clutch, downshifting, blah blah blah don’t care about tracks or canyon driving. Just like the stiff suspension and handling versus luxury comfy responsible, practical looking grown up cars. Sadly as a person who learned how to and was raised driving rear wheel drive cars in a Midwest state with winter…. It would sit during icy weather. Fun as it is in a parking lot…drivers around you in the snow are a lot less trustworthy in bad weather than the old days. With phones and misleading all wheel drive which does not include all wheel stop.
Same times as a 2013 Altima 2.5, lol what a joke. People save your money and buy a used STI, or better yet.. buy a real Japanese RWD sports coupe, a Nissan 370Z.
Who's into going fast and cares about gas mileage at the same time?, so that is irrelevant. Sure if you're a big fat ass giant you can't fit in any car, im 250 5'8 and fit in a Z just fine. Just like i been saying this "drivers car" has the same stats as most 4 banger family sedans, so its a flop in my eyes. I'd rather have a 2013 3.5 Altima be wayyy faster and still get 31 MPG, dont even need a 370Z to compete with this.
I put myself in the Genesis Coupe camp based on having seeing both cars in the showroom. This car is a big disappointment. It's underpowered, expensive for what you get(or don't get) and rather unrefined and insubstantial-feeling. The interior quality is abysmal, even for a sports car. The stereo head unit is ridiculous with far-too-small buttons and no redundant wheel-mounted controls. About the only good thing about this car is its seating position, low but still comfortable to see out of.
The Genesis Coupe is a good car but you're crazy for putting down the FR-S/BRZ. I test drove both of them, and while I really loved the power of that V6 Lambda, everything else about the car was very mediocre to me for the whole driving experience. I ended up getting the FR-S and it has been a fantastic experience. The FR-S/BRZ was still a bit cheaper than the Genesis Coupe for me, especially after taxes and other fees the dealers slap on, the price was just a tad more expensive than what a Miata would have cost me. If you were looking for power, the Mustang or Camaro is a much better deal for HP. What you are paying for the FR-S/BRZ is the best coupe chassis on the market under $40,000 USD brand new of course. Plus, the FR-S/BRZ has a much nicer manual and automatic gearboxes than the ones on the Genesis, the balance is more neutral, and not to mention is also 500-800 pounds lighter depending on which engine you have in the Hyundai. As far as interior quality, yes the FR-S/BRZ is nothing special but how is the Genesis Coupe any better? At the very least, the FR-S/BRZ gets all the good parts right, leather covers the doors at the right spots where you would normally touch, has arguably the best stock bucket seats for any coupe around that price, perfect driving position (as you mentioned) and steering wheel, and for me the layout of the gauges is perfect, analog tach + digital speedo right in the middle. All the coupes I test drove under $30,000 all had shitty interiors IMO. The Genesis Coupe had a much more refined looking interior, yes design wise, but the fitment was still super mediocre at best, hard plastics everywhere and the interior added no real additional benefit for me except looking just a tad more developed, that's it. By the way, the FR-S/BRZ headunit design was made to just be easy to swap out so no external buttons connecting to it which also made it really easy for me to install a sub. Both good cars either way.
I test drove both stick and auto versions of the Gen and the Sciobaru twins likely have a better clutch/shifter combo(which could be due to the undertorqued boxer engine). Because I would have to drive my car every day I look at features/amenities as well as performance and in that area the Gen is clearly superior. That and the added bonus of being able to pass slower cars going uphill as well as being able to powerslide through corners. Of course, it is heavier and is now being pushed upward to compete with the aging Infiniti Q60 coupe.
I'd much rather have the scion, the subaru seems too revised. Your buying a sports car. Don't really give a fuck about leather, LEDs and HIDs. Also I think the interior color is too Subaru cheap, not Toyota cheap. Everything has red piping and the metallic paint looks cheap like my WRX.
Intimate...referring to it's size when talking about the back seat. Based on that definition/stretching of the truth, I should ring my ex-GF's and tell them all that laughter they had when I took my clothes off was because I was just more 'intimate' than they were expecting ;-)
For an automatic 0-60 7.7 seconds is plenty quick! He said it's one and a half seconds slower than the manual. So the manual 0-60 = 6.35 seconds... Not slow at all for a not so pricey NA!
1 and a half means 1.5, so 6.2
Only a cripple or someone with brain damage would buy an automatic sports car lmfao
"For those living under a rock"
ROFL LOL
Yeah the 2017 86 and Brz run 0-60 in 6.2 1/4 mile in 14.7 for the manual ones with the new final drive ratio. There pretty quick!
i was hurt on the job and became disabled, im unable to drive a manual any more. this video was helpful and insightful for me
i know a large amount of people who just are not interested in getting a manual transmission car for what ever reason
there are performance oriented people and then there are the vast majority of regular automobile buyers
that suit is just too big for him
This car is grate after you do a few things like tune, rims and tires, lower final drive ratio, springs, sway bars, exhust if you want, and intake. That makes this car a lot of fun
I think this car was purpose built as the perfect tuner platform.
Have a grate day
Does any one know what’s the code of the blue car ? I like it.
in the usa something like 95% of all new cars are auto's. I think in this car though there will be more manuals sold than auto's but there is still a few auto's getting around, probably like 35% or so.
i grew up on this show, believe it or not - best automotive show ever!!!!
I was going by the specs, test drove the car amazing ride, only thing lacking was power and interior.
I am 6-5 200 pounds. I have legroom and headroom in the BRZ. 95% of the time I am driving I am going back and forth to work or picking up grocery's. I am not snatching 2nd and drifting sideways at that point. Most WRX and Z drivers are just as responsible on public roads. Yes I take the long way home sometimes. That is when the brz shines. Driving down a winding back road at 45 mph in the middle of 5th gear is when the BRZ outperforms any of the cars you mentioned. It's "fun" My avg is 33 mpg.
someone who appreciates the benefits of a well sorted chassis, suspension and LSD.
i drove one for a few days... and bought it to a track. It is almost perfect fool
1:40 Thank you for describing the distinction between sports cars and performance cars!
The sound generator can easily be disconnected and plugged. Most after-market intake systems on this car offer either option.
The Scion is a good buy but for $1,200 more you can get the base brz. It only adds HIDs and a nav. It is far more exclusive than the FRS.
Another reviewer tested the FR-S automatic, and still liked it, and has paddle shifters just like the BRZ. However, sports car purists prefer the manual transmission, and I'd prefer the manual like yourself.
I take back my first response, test drove it... pretty amazing. Minus the interior, lease rates are terrible, engine feels lacking but great handling.
I test drove it, very nice minus the interior, may have swayed my mind into getting one.
This car is $27k, for $29k you can get the WRX wiith 70 more hp that is also AWD and has three more seats. This car is good but not for the price. Should be like $22k
Wat. It starts out at 25k, and none of the options are what people would buy anyways.
The BRZ have a better chasis as is RWD.
BRZ is a Sport car. Have a better chasis, better balance than a WRX
RWD is much more fun to drive than 4WD
Three more seats. Who is buying a sport coupe is not looking for seats.
Not all in the car world is Horsepower
Why the people cant understand ?
The WRX is far less attractive, and far less reliable. Even with less power, I'd rather have an FRS or BRZ because it's far more attractive and with some basic aftermarket performance bolt-ons it can be made sufficiently powerful enough to be an incredibly fun and reliable car, which it already is despite not being super powerful. A good car isn't always about big hp numbers. This car was engineered to be fun and practical with perfect balance and stellar handling and driver feel. It has a lot of potential and is a wonderful platform for tuners.
The only thing the BRZ has on the WRX is looks. It's one of the more attractive cars on the road so it's unfortunate they didn't give it more power. That said, I think I would still choose the BRZ over the WRX because I can modify it for more power, and because it's not ugly like the WRX. The BRZ may be lacking in horsepowee but it has everything else going for it, and it is basically a perfect tuner platform.
I like these cars, They look cool in person.
If I get one the first thing thats going is those weak small tires and then I need a turbo.
Got it as a gift, can't complain tbh
I am not impresed with the sound of the BRZ. The Vteck Honda's are some of the best sounding Japanese cars ever. The new Mustang and the Fiat 500 Abarth dont need no sound chamber. They sound awesome.
Does any one know what’s the code of the blue car ? I like it.
In my opinion the 370z is so much better then the 350z in interior and exterior looks alone that it is worth the price difference.
of course, without a question you would pick the manual, it's just necessary for the driving pleasure ...mhhm yeah
there is only so much you can do with a 2.0L engine with a catalytic converter and a factory intake and exhaust systems. Gotta roll with the punches and take what you can get anymore.
It's rear wheel drive, unlike the rest of the Subaru line-up.
Mustangs are good, but any BR-Z or FR-S will dance around any Mustang and get better gas mileage. I'd love to buy and FR-S and the Mustang, but if I had to chose only one, it'd have to be the FR-S.
Not one from 2003. If you're in the market for this kind of car, a used Boxster is perfectly legit. And a hell of a lot cheaper.
Love this car...
If it was a Toyota it would be 2 to 3k more and the dealers would load it with options and they would not met production goals. Mr Toyota did the right thing making it a scion. It is the cheapest version of the car in the world. It only comes one way for under 25k.
Is this me or is the BRZ the first Subaru without All Wheel Drive?
After @92CamryLE reminded me of the FWD Imprezas, yes!
On the street they are awesome! Drive the car before you judge it. The Japanese just are not that great at stopping cars. The Z's brakes are sad. My last 2000 Celica GT had the worst brakes I have seen on a modern car. Slotted and drilled front rotors solved the problem. If you want nice binders American or better German is the way to go.
Scion re badged the Toyota GT86 in the USA.
Consider the torque your friend's gmc makes and the rpm it comes on at.
It needs more power or a drop in price. Great mpgs though.
That is slow!...my frs manual is way faster.
The STi sucks gas at twice the rate of the BRZ has turbo lag and understeer on dry pavement. The Z is to dam heavy for its size and you must be 5-9 or less to really get comfortable in it. It weighs 400 pounds more than the BRZ and you feel that weight. It also cant stop. To much motor for the braking system.
A Boxster is a lot more expensive than the BRZ (49,500 Boxter base vs. 25,495 base BRZ).
which country ?
I love Motorweek!!!!!
Overall fail. Costs too much underpowered. If this was sold at $20k they would have a top seller worth the money. The car sits really low and there is no lumbar support. Uses premium fuel something alot of reviewers forget to mention. Good car just costs too much for what it offers. WRX is a better deal.
Add a Rocketbunny bodykit to the BRZ and it's a street racing car.
"bringing the return to the pure sports car type to the market"
I know they have to make interesting sound bites, but the MX-5 Miata is still here.
Lighter, cheaper, a pure two seater instead of a compromised 2 + 2.
I like the FRS and BRZ, but they only sound really special when you ignore the already around MX-5 Miata.
"Automatics are much more popular than manuals" except that 80% of Toyobaru's sold are manuals....
Soo... if you aren't drifting or tracking, buy the new Mazda 3?
I am not comfortable pushing my car to over 7000 rpm to get any kind of power.
This car is only good with manual.
If you buy this car with an auto, you should really take a look at yourself in the mirror.
thats completely missing the point, im not gonna bore u with a long composition but go and read up about this car before giving stupid comments
Cool car. Pretty small. Way overpriced. Dealers have a $3k+ markup. Handles pretty good but not spectacular. They talk about the handling cuz thats all they can talk about. The auto is ridiculously slow. The stick is better but for the money go get a wrx. The wrx is faster more room more versatile and costs the same.
The BRZ has far more space for the driver gets 30% better fuel economy and weighs 400 pounds less. On the street the BRZ is more fun also. On the track the z would smoke it.
i have driven a toyota gt86 and it doesn't need more power, i know its kinda sluggish if u don't trash the engine but thats fun work and what u said are so not accurate, sad fantasist
Just wait for the BRZ turbo to come out. Drifting? I thought this car was all wheel drive?
No, it's RWD
rockauto has the best prices no joke.
Automatic is far more popular than manual ? Are you kidding me?!
Don't know why you would even consider buying an automatic for a car marketed toward driving enthusiasts.
I was js about to say the same,but you beat me. Its a great show.
Is there an AWD option?
No
the Toyota 86 is the best version of this car. Too bad its sold as a scion in the USA
It is just not your thing. If you can deal with some reliability issues the VW GTI is far more entertaining than the 3i.
19 mpg city/31 mpg highway the brz gets closer to 34 MPG highway and 25 MPG city, trust me I love mustangs, since I was a little kid, but they have gotten way to far out of my price range, and I would feel like a pussy buying the 2013 mustang without the 5.0L but at 35-40 grand thats a bit steep but I understand. I would rather buy this and mod it up to be a fun everyday driving drift machine.
Just drove a BRZ and my god it's slow. Just save yourself $10k and get a Boxster which is just as slow and handles better to boot.
one more thing i must add, is watching and reading top gear uk 'wrong'? wtf man, for fucks sake 350 million people love them and im wrong for reading their magazine and listening to their advice?? if the internet saw this u will be flamed so hard
I did not say I "want a practical sports car for daily use."
Save the Manuals!
Who would even buy this... rather get a mustang rear wheel 2013 v6 has 305hp and crazy good
fuel consumption
referring to your nismo buddy i see?
Good car. Prob handles great. A little overpriced I think b/c it's underpowerd But at the end of the day how will you feel when I beat you in my FUCKING MINI VAN grocery getter with my two toddlers in the back seat.
LOL, umm, not too good, not too good at all. Maybe I could at least tell myself I would have you on the corners, but that is assuming you are not a nut and I am not a shit driver...either way, being overtaken by you in your "grocery getter" while being laughed at by your toddlers actually is really going to hurt me, please, just please don't, lay off the gas and let me have the edge, if just by a small margin, just please be a nice person no need to be cruel.. :/ ;)
They could have atleast had different styling !! Two fantastic cars but they both look the same
Anyone that chooses the auto over the manual, punch yourself in the face
I got
Was it a Vette? Because that's what old, balding, overweight men drive nowadays ...
It... it requires premium fuel?
Tim Pryor it does
"Intake mounted sound generator" FAIL!
Gotcha
Not me I hate that pig motor. 18mpg and turbo lag with the exhaust from a vacuum cleaner no thank you. Next year a 300 hp turbo 2.0 will replace that hog. The WRX will also go on a 300 pound diet.
What man wants to be seen in a v6 mustang?
its only 200hp dude what did you expect.... its not a WRX/STi...
72k usd in malaysia
Only girls or girlymen or will buy an automatic BRZ. Turbo version please!!
Yup don’t want to worry about clutch, downshifting, blah blah blah don’t care about tracks or canyon driving. Just like the stiff suspension and handling versus luxury comfy responsible, practical looking grown up cars.
Sadly as a person who learned how to and was raised driving rear wheel drive cars in a Midwest state with winter…. It would sit during icy weather. Fun as it is in a parking lot…drivers around you in the snow are a lot less trustworthy in bad weather than the old days. With phones and misleading all wheel drive which does not include all wheel stop.
my stock corsa opc do it 15.1 at 1/4 mile...
If I were not hitched, I would have bought one ... with a slushbox ...
BRZ FOR THE FUCKIN WIN! FUCK ALL HATERS!
Minivans are faster than a miata. Have you autocrossed a Miata with a frown on your face?
No they don't they do it the old fashion way.
Same times as a 2013 Altima 2.5, lol what a joke. People save your money and buy a used STI, or better yet.. buy a real Japanese RWD sports coupe, a Nissan 370Z.
Who's into going fast and cares about gas mileage at the same time?, so that is irrelevant. Sure if you're a big fat ass giant you can't fit in any car, im 250 5'8 and fit in a Z just fine. Just like i been saying this "drivers car" has the same stats as most 4 banger family sedans, so its a flop in my eyes. I'd rather have a 2013 3.5 Altima be wayyy faster and still get 31 MPG, dont even need a 370Z to compete with this.
man that thing costs 49000 dollars in my country
Put a turbo on it and I'll buy it..
just give it the damn wrx engine and everyone would buy one
the trousers are definitely too long
$26k? Sports cars are getting expensive. I'll find a used S2K for half the price.
Pao S And how did that work out for you?
I put myself in the Genesis Coupe camp based on having seeing both cars in the showroom. This car is a big disappointment. It's underpowered, expensive for what you get(or don't get) and rather unrefined and insubstantial-feeling. The interior quality is abysmal, even for a sports car. The stereo head unit is ridiculous with far-too-small buttons and no redundant wheel-mounted controls. About the only good thing about this car is its seating position, low but still comfortable to see out of.
The Genesis Coupe is a good car but you're crazy for putting down the FR-S/BRZ. I test drove both of them, and while I really loved the power of that V6 Lambda, everything else about the car was very mediocre to me for the whole driving experience. I ended up getting the FR-S and it has been a fantastic experience. The FR-S/BRZ was still a bit cheaper than the Genesis Coupe for me, especially after taxes and other fees the dealers slap on, the price was just a tad more expensive than what a Miata would have cost me. If you were looking for power, the Mustang or Camaro is a much better deal for HP. What you are paying for the FR-S/BRZ is the best coupe chassis on the market under $40,000 USD brand new of course. Plus, the FR-S/BRZ has a much nicer manual and automatic gearboxes than the ones on the Genesis, the balance is more neutral, and not to mention is also 500-800 pounds lighter depending on which engine you have in the Hyundai. As far as interior quality, yes the FR-S/BRZ is nothing special but how is the Genesis Coupe any better? At the very least, the FR-S/BRZ gets all the good parts right, leather covers the doors at the right spots where you would normally touch, has arguably the best stock bucket seats for any coupe around that price, perfect driving position (as you mentioned) and steering wheel, and for me the layout of the gauges is perfect, analog tach + digital speedo right in the middle. All the coupes I test drove under $30,000 all had shitty interiors IMO. The Genesis Coupe had a much more refined looking interior, yes design wise, but the fitment was still super mediocre at best, hard plastics everywhere and the interior added no real additional benefit for me except looking just a tad more developed, that's it. By the way, the FR-S/BRZ headunit design was made to just be easy to swap out so no external buttons connecting to it which also made it really easy for me to install a sub. Both good cars either way.
I test drove both stick and auto versions of the Gen and the Sciobaru twins likely have a better clutch/shifter combo(which could be due to the undertorqued boxer engine). Because I would have to drive my car every day I look at features/amenities as well as performance and in that area the Gen is clearly superior. That and the added bonus of being able to pass slower cars going uphill as well as being able to powerslide through corners. Of course, it is heavier and is now being pushed upward to compete with the aging Infiniti Q60 coupe.
Hakeem Kazak thank you for your statement
wow it has shitty brakes... didn't know that... disappointing for a 2800 lbs car indeed
No I haven't have you auto crossed a GTR with a frown on YOUR face?...
I'd much rather have the scion, the subaru seems too revised. Your buying a sports car. Don't really give a fuck about leather, LEDs and HIDs. Also I think the interior color is too Subaru cheap, not Toyota cheap. Everything has red piping and the metallic paint looks cheap like my WRX.
if u dont have anything else logical to say, dont say it, simple as that
holy shit my 95 pickup runs 15s
the host's pants are way too long :D
Intimate...referring to it's size when talking about the back seat. Based on that definition/stretching of the truth, I should ring my ex-GF's and tell them all that laughter they had when I took my clothes off was because I was just more 'intimate' than they were expecting ;-)