Rolex AD waitlist & how to bypass it.
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- 6 tips on how to get on the good side of your Rolex AD
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I literally walked in to my local small-town AD 8 months ago, 100% female owned and operated and got a Sub date 41mm just before the yr concluded. I assure you that the advice given in this video is 100% golden advice. I did not have a history with the AD by any means and did not spend any money before or during my wait, but when I got the call, the co-owner remembered my obvious passion for the watch I was seeking and how I interacted with the staff. All of the points presented in this video have serious merit, and at least one of them resulted in my successful acquisition of my grail watch which brings me untold amounts of joy every time I glance at my wrist.
What's the small town called?
WHY AM I SO OBSESSED WITH WATCHES...
Weirdo
What I wouldn’t like is going into a fancy restaurant and they basically tell me what I have to eat first before I can get what i really like
Great content. I walked into an AD I had no purchase history with asking for a steel Submariner and they took my name a number. I didn’t expect a call back after hearing various experiences on UA-cam. Low and behold I received a call 5 months later and now I’m the proud owner for the past 4 months. It was a smaller dealer east of Los Angeles. By the way, your intro is fantastic. 👍🏼
Great video as usual. How I got on the “preferred list”. I took two of my prior long ago purchases (Bluesy Sub and a Wimbledon Date Just) for servicing. Made sure the new manager knew I had purchased these from his long ago predecessor. Got to chatting about various topics. He knew I keep and appreciate Rolex watches and that I would always be in the market for more. 3 months later I got a call and picked up a Panda Daytona. I expressed my appreciation and not long later got a call for a Sky Dweller. Lesson, Relationships, relationships, relationships...
When are we getting your top 6 tips on how to skip the Casio waitlist?
We are just on the wrong channel
You have to develop a friendship with the watch dealer lol.
Wow what a false world! I'm happy to be on the outside.
4:53 - "This is the luxury watch market guys, the big boys game"
oh yeahhh
Some « real luxury » brands aren’t in this « game » so apparently the rules differ depending on the player :)
Some good points I totally agree, took me a few years with my AD to build a solid relationship but I agree the wait list once you tick the boxes is reduced to the point of only waiting for the delivery to the store.
There’s nothing much better than a chat with a person willing to simply lay out the truth of things. That’s what watching this video was like. Awesome job once again!
Mark
Thanks Mark!!
I am a fairly new customer of my local AD from whom I have recently bought 5 Rolex pieces (last 6 months). In fact I am now one of his 'preferred customers', so I get a shot at the Rolex Preview today! I know I am not on his list of old customers but am glad to have been invited...
Yeah you’re not a flipper
Wow! Been waiting for more than 2 years.
You have a few fine points here my friend here in Toronto got a no date sub from one of our ADs the manger of the AD had asked him if he intended to flip the watch he assured the manager that wasn't going to happen. I believe they have stock in the back but sell to people that they can trust not to flip the watches.
I did most of what you suggested and it got me a GMT Master II. In a few weeks in going to grab a Breitling Super Ocean Heritage.42mm Rose Gold. Not a mega purchase I'll get a bit of a discount. But I'll let them know I'm looking for a yacht Master steel with that Rhodium dial we both like, sometime in.the spring. Like you said spread it around.
Excellent advice....which applies equally well to many business relationships as well as authorized watch dealers.
Loving the tips you are giving us.
My AD refuses to call it a list... Its a register of interest :-)
Yep
Mine said "wish list"...
‘Register of interest’ is a term they use to pacify people, that’s what my AD told me last week. He told me if somebody is on the Register of Interest they probably haven’t even taken their details. I walked straight in and bought an Air King he had in the safe but he admitted he’d told many people he didn’t have one.
Plain truth very well told. I think this stuff applies to a lot of other areas, such as dealing with your financial advisor and others professionals you expect good service from.
I am fully agree with your recommendation! I am also in e-mail contact with my AD in Bolzano and I sent him every year kind regards to Chrismas. And he knows all the times when I visit Bolzano. THX for another great video.
Used these tips with my timex ad got every watch i wanted immediately ty
I agree with your comments and can attest that this has been my experience too. I have been lucky in that I am in a smaller city and my local AD is close to my wife's work and other watch shops that I like to visit. I stop in there often to talk watches and to look at the empty display cases. I developed a relationship with a Sales Associate that has worked there for 20 years and is extremely knowledgeable. I would wear a different watch each time, a lot of pre-owned Rolex and Omega. Now they know me by name, know I am a collector, trust that I am not a flipper, and they want to sell to me. Last year I asked for an Explorer and had to wait 8 weeks, but got it. Then I walked in and asked about a Tudor BB58 blue.... one mysteriously appeared from the back and I walked out with it. Then I asked for a 41mm Sub and had just a 13 day wait. This is all that I've bought, no jewelry, no undesirable watches, just these. At my AD it's all about that relationship that you build with the SA.
I feel like I’m watching a video on how to pick up girls
It's code
The best way to pick up girls is with a forklift. Save your back.
Always get a kick out of your content. Keep it coming! I’m glad I have a good friendship with mine, just gives me another friend to talk watches with.
I went to my local AD for a deep sea, had it after 2 weeks, few years later went in for a sub date, had a call after 3 days and another call after 8 days. If your AD is a pretentious prick then move onto another AD.
Who is your ad
Who is your ad
You're right,on a much more ordinary level consideration and respect of the staff you're dealing with will get you remembered.I use a local cafe with tables outside,i always take my glass back whereas most people just leave them outside.I get remembered i get better service,simple.
Yes 👍🏻
Great insight and very relevant points ... Yes it's certainly a relationship ( with your AD ) that needs to be invested in ... And it's bloody good fun in doing it ... Watches, women, cars , motorbikes , food ... It's about passion and emotion .. Who doesn't love sharing that and building a relationship around what makes your heart swell :)
I got myself down on the "waiting list" for a Sub at AD in Toronto suburbs. 3 weeks later I got the call and bought the watch. I guess I got all the bases covered with them LOL.. Before that I was on a waiting list for BB58 at the same AD and the wait was around 6 month. I did get the watch as well. All you said is 100% true. You were practically telling my story. Love the content, mate. Cheers from Canada.
Which “suburb” in YYZ?
@@Treetopflyer777 Oakville
O Gadjim thx. I just bought a DJ in Mississauga. I guess I’m not spending enough. They laughed when asked about sports models.
Can you help me get what I want from them? I’ll give you the dough.
its a load of bollocks, id rather just buy a Pepsi on the grey market and not have to polish any helmets
Good point.
I'm the same I will never suck and swallow for just a watch. That's why I went grey market and I'm enjoying my new Rolex now rather than playing a silly game.
Angelo Soulas I’d rather enjoy my 4 or 5 thousand dollars instead of paying them over MSRP.
@ well I guess it depends how many watches you want. if you just want one watch then grey is probably the best way if the one you want is hard to get. if you are looking to build a collection then ad is best imo.
fine if you can justify paying ￡20k for ￡10k Daytona....personally id rather polish a few helmets & keep the other ￡10k in my account thanks....
Excellent video! Really loving this channel. Cheers!
Good advice here....I’m slowly getting there with my AD, which is lucky as I almost initially messed the whole thing up by pretty much ‘demanding’ they source me a Hulk & Pepsi as ‘I bought my wifes DJ here 2 years ago and if need be ill buy her some jewellery here today!” Omfg what was I thinking!! 🤪 Anyway I realised the error of my ways and ordered the YM 40 (deposit taken 6month wait - its actually come into the AD yesterday after only 6 weeks!) and Im also on a 12 month wait for a Batgirl. So yeah, befriending your AD is highly advised as well as a fair bit of patience. Im also thinking the eventual Sub purchase might go in the bin as just picked up an Omega SMP 300 25% off rrp...What a watch for £3k
Love the Channel
All the Best
Raymond
Ray
All points covered! 👍
Hi there, I just wanted to drop you a note on how this video has helped me got my Hulk. I received a call from Rolex today and I have to give you credit for the tips you have given me.
I don’t believe at all there is a WL and like you said the AD decides who they want to sell it to. I got mine in less than 3 months.!!
Great stuff Victor! Enjoy your new watch!
Not sure where you came from, you just showed up out of the blue..lol, but your videos are bloody fantastic. Excellent videography and your insights are spot on. This is a must watch for those who can't establish relationships with AD staff normally. Especially the part about not being an over obsessive weirdo, focusing only on the watches. The staff are people....talk to them. Looking forward to the next vid!
Hey man, i love your thoughts on this. I'm a kid in college and i got my first steel sub date back in 2017, maybe it was 18. I worked on putting money on lay away for long time and the AD saw that i was stocking away a bunch of money with them. I have been back their several times since i bought the watch and they say they haven't gotten a single watch in a long time. I thought theres no way, but their display cases have been empty for months. How i got the sub was rather odd, they said i would have to wait almost a year before i could get the one they had put on order for me. Two days after the order, they called and said it came early i put a bunch of money down and financed the little bit that was left. I was wondering, being young and with limited funds, should i just keep doing the same thing i've been doing? or did i just get lucky. Love the channel by the way.
Great advice. Thank you I appreciate this advice. We (I) are so busy rushing through life we forget these things do matter!
I placed an order for my first Rolex, (a Submariner) in late December of 2019 and got the call in late July of 2020. My strategy was to develop a relationship by sending a quick email on a monthly basis. In your opinion, was this relatively short waiting period a result of my strategy or rather others (ahead of me) wanting to wait for the updated Sub and passing on a 116610LN ?
I would also add that whilst making a relationship with an AD try to also make it with more than one person and/or their boss. Go to their events to meet their team. Like selling, if your single contact leaves so does a good part of that relationship.. IMO
I'm a little worried about this aspect. What's the best way to spread the attention around a bit, perhaps go in when they aren't working and ask to see a few pieces?
@@aussieexpat which aspect are you worried about? And what do you mean by spread the attention around a bit?
@@marktime61 Exactly as you said, spending a lot of time and money with a person, but if they leave, you're swol.
@@aussieexpat Ah ok, thought you may be looking for guidance :-).. Yes whilst you will be on their database and if you spend a lot its easy enough to get re aquainted but if you are an occasional buyer you will not be remembered unless you take the effort to get known. Not an easy trait for everyone but its human nature. Hopefully when we get back to normality relationships can continue and built upon.
Magnificent the entrance of the videos, beautiful and very interesting your reviews!!
Thanks listened to your advice and got a paul newman daytona for £500
Appreciate it 👍🏼👍🏼
Great video !! Keep it up!
You are on the $ - I have been acting as such naturally for some years and its paying off for me. Your comments are genuine
I text with AD guys all the time and that took about 5 to 6 months to build .
Thank you
Fascinating content from a true ‘insider’ watch collector. I used to be in international sales and it was very interesting talking to watch sales guys at their level all around the world and in airports killing time. Being knowledgeable about watches and putting that passion across can open doors. I was very complimentary to an AD in Seattle who had a great attitude to letting me try on pieces. I complimented them about their great city and all the places I’d visited like the original Starbucks. Also my love for travelling in America and meeting real American characters and how welcoming and hospitable they were. Basically I was just being my charming complimentary self (haha!) and the store manager registered my interest in a Daytona by getting one out of the safe there and then to purchase. Can you fucking believe that? Guys, these days the salesmen hear your waiting list sob story 1,000 times per day and twice that at weekends. Put the hard yards in. One little tip. If the guy likes you and offers you a cup of tea or something stronger *never* turn their hospitality down. Basically it’s an invitation to stay a while and shoot the shit and they are enjoying your company. If you say no and walk away they’ll mutter “asshole” under their breath. I used to...
Realistic review,thanx for the video.
I thoroughly enjoy your channel. Thank you. Just bought myself a 114060, my first Rolex. Hoping it will be my one and only Rolex. Now up to 12 watches in total, it has to stop. Looking for “one more” - the exit watch. Probably doesn’t exist....I seem to remember you said you are a musician. Are you on Spotify?
It’s great advice. The best point is about buying watches from the same AD over time. I’’ve bought a Hulk and Batgirl over two years from the same AD and she has told me she’s on the look out for my next watch. She knows this guy is gonna be down with payment same day wearing the same watch I sold him last year. That money/commission/honesty (I don’t flip) in AD relationships beats hell out of any “waiting list”. It’s like every time you buy a watch it sets you up for getting your next watch (and there s ALWAYS another watch to buy, lol). Good luck.
In other words: if I have to explain this process to you- you're not going to understand anyway. But this is how it's done... If you were the kind of guy that you're not- you could do this too!
LOL. Brilliant comment.
I’m a rather big fella and I convinced the AD even a Datejust didn’t look right on me. So a two tone Everose Yachtmaster was the watch that started the relationship that slowly led to the all stainless models. And even then it was the standard black Sub I was notified if I was interested. But at the moment there are more important people than me getting the Pepsi.
Oisin is spot-on here. Although I haven't reached the level he is describing, I have been able to acquire a couple of pieces within my first calendar year of working with my local AD... generally following his advice here.
It happened to Panerai years back, I was lucky was not listed then. It can happen again and again, and will happen again as history just repeats itself.
Tried on a Pepsi recently used and bought March 2019. Most of the plastic intact and the warranty card present. Seems Rolex are giving the AD the final say on who to ‘trust’ with the piece at the point of sale. Passed on the Pepsi - after all they were asking a sky scraping £17K ono on a £7K list. Kermits (yes plural) and a Hulk now appearing on the used market in High Street windows which is an indicator that some are finally offloading hot steel sports pieces. Some market adjustment but Rolex will endure in the medium to long haul. But interesting times we live in, as ever...
I went to the Rolex AD in Vancouver looking for Tudor because it said online that they should have it, and like you said you would think they might carry it. I thought there was a chance they might have some. When I asked the employee looked at me like i asked him where he keeps the latest Citizens LOL. And said they ONLY have Rolex here. lol.
Man you are spot on. I already had a relationship with the sales person at the AD from a previous watch establishment he used to work at. He told me very honestly that I would have to buy something from them before he could start offering me Rolex pieces. I bought the Longines that I dented and asked him for an Explorer. A month later he let me know he had one and I bought it. Now just waiting on a call for a couple more I am interested in but I am also buying other pieces here and there from him. Just picked up a Bronze Oris a couple weeks ago just to keep it going. Keep up the good work!
This video is so valuable here it’s not even funny. Also this works with a lot of other things in life.
Listening to your advice, they call me in for the 50th sd43. Thank You sir for the wisdom.
Congrats!
In your opinion, do you believe the 5 digit sports models will decline, stay or go up in value? Thank you
I love that you wear shades indoors! 😎 as hell!
Great video, like the vibe!
Very good video. Unfortunately, most people will disregard and then complain.
Yes, they can be friended and once a charisma is born between you and the manager your watch will be around the corner. I’m saying that from my own experience. I’m not a VIP, nor I’m parking a Porsche or a Ferrari in front of the Rolex boutique, I don’t even had a Rolex when I first entered the store for one a year ago. In one year, I was offered the following: GMT Pepsi, GMT BLNR. Sub date and no date. A Datejust and a Sea Dweller 50th anniversary. The myth of Rolex sport steal is unobtainable is not accurate. Good relationship, friendly approach and charisma can do wonders.
I have a different opinion. Many people say that there's snobbery at Rolex and won't want to have to make an effort to court the sales executives. Everyone always talks about being or acting fake. However you don't have to be fake to establish relationships. Whatever happened to just being friendly. It goes a long way and that's not being "fake"
I discovered your channel whilst you're walking across your town and then you flash out your green-faced Aqua Terra.
I enjoyed your dialogue and then you hit me in the knees with that beautiful watch.
Enjoyed your vlog ever since.
Great video. Recently found your channel, keep up the good work!
Funny you say that you got to pick. I just got an 116610. Now that you mention it, my AD said "we just got a shipment". I had my pick of YachtMaster blue dial, Batgirl or Sub.
How did that happen? I called about the Rhodium YM. What are the chances they would get a shipment with no stainless in the case.
This is Rolex #2 from the AD. I tried to buy the Tudor GMT and BB58 but they didn't have it. I let them know that I found them elsewhere. Your relationship advice is spot on.
If that's "all the money you have in the world," please don't be out shopping for luxury items.
Great advice, the wait lists seem like complete nonsense either they want to get the watch for you for one reason or another or they don't. Yeah, they aren't getting tons in but they are getting them and selling them to whoever they want. Not really that complicated, would you sell a hard to get item to a good customer or some random one and done that happens to walk in?
Cheers bud! Great video and much appreciated. I’m on the wait list and I’m not interested in flipping shit.
I’m finally in the position where i can buy a Rolex so i don’t mind waiting. I enjoy buying jewelry for the family once in a while. Waiting for a green sub - wish me luck. I just hope they continue to make it next year!
Have u got the Hulk?
How many pieces did you have to buy to dissolve the waitlist for you?
Question should be:,do you want to be part of this BS Rolex buyer/seller world? Lot’s of nice watches out there.
Dude.... spot on. Not everyone gets this.
You basically have to build a connection with your local AD, spend a good amount of money over a long period of time with them, and make them think you are somebody with social status and a good person for them to sell their rare watches to.
You’re just telling people the absolute truth. They’re running a business AND they don’t like uncouth people. If this offends you enjoy the grey market.
Producer Michael don’t build relationships with the AD, the AD builds relationship with Producer Michael 😂
But he buys 200k watches. I bet it helps
My husband brought me a date just diamond dial, I emailed the same AD and kept asking for a Batman for my husband and that it was for my husbands birthday I dropped an email once a month and called a couple times, within 3/4 months I got the call and went and picked it up same day, they don’t messing about they want you to go in there and hand over the cash. I still can’t believe I got hold of it so quickly, he even said he would be able to help me in future I want to try and get hold of a Daytona next
Great video. Finally a cool watch channel. The first cool one! This guy is mix of Bonno, Bond and Ewan McGregor. Entertaining relatable and not wanky bollocks like the other channels.
Excellent taste, Dave!! Thanks for watching!
Here is my story. Bought my wedding ring from local AD, a few years later bought myself an omega aqua tera and my wife a new datejust. I wanted a sub but even then you couldn't just order one. At the same time I had my explorer 2 which I bought used and elsewhere serviced by this same AD. This was all in Jan 2017. Mar/Apr 2019 I lost my wedding ring at the gym and went back to order a new one, at the same time filled in a form registering my interest in the new BLNR, 19th Dec they called and offered me one.
Spot on mate
Another great video with rich content.
Great solid advice .
You are so right😁
I have done everything you recommend but I am still awaiting for the GMT blue/red. I contacted the AD within four minutes of the watch being released.
That is a particularly hard model to get. Maybe the hardest. Don’t hold your breath.
Might it also help that you have a social media presence?
Thd Rolex experience is not complete without being on a waitlist. Yeah, right.
I think the waiting adds to the experience 😀
The problem is that to make this relationship you need to have a lot of money to buy your first more normal watches in order to dont wait on the list for the hottest one, so if you are not rich enough if you are like normal people that saves for a hot watch like a sub for example it seems dificult to achieve in a short period of time; maybe during some years is more affordable to have that good relation.
I like your content friend!
Regards
This is on point 😎🥃
Thank you for this, I have 9 watches on order with AD’s & a WhatsApp relationship too, but I purchased a Yachtmaster Everose Oysterflex bracelet from the Grey Market. 🙏😎
Hey bro. Great tips and love the channel. What do you propose i do in the case my local ad wont even give an entry level datejust or yacht etc to start that relationship? Like literally theres not a single mens watch in there (at least they say)
great Vid. I walked into an AD that I have been in before and looked at there diminished supply of watches and the clerk asked what I was wearing. I told her Sub 116610LN and she said very nice.. She then proceeded to ask if I would like her to clean it for me.. I said Oh no that's fine. Thank you anyway. Would you give your timepiece over to a clerk to clean your Rolex? I bet it would come back with more scratches than when I gave it to her.
When they do it at my AD it comes back spotless.
I had a great AD for Cartier and Rolex. That's probably why they lost the contracts with Cartier and Rolex. They gave discounts (15-30%), actually sold watches to anyone, and would call if an interesting piece came in. They did wait lists for rare catalog watches. But you could walk in, say do you have any Rolex Daytonas, and magically from the back room would appear all they had. They were also honest with customers about making realistic expectations about watch collecting.
Very informative! Thanks.
Thanks for your advice iy will be ready helpful for sure. I'm getting ready to buy a Rolex for my birthday I'm leaving in London so it will probably be hard with the waiting list.
I'm sure they wouldn't sell me a sports model, but I walked into a very fancy AD in Manhattan yesterday wearing my $200 Orient and asked (just to see what it looked like) if they had any of these. He was nice about it and said they don't last and they go to preferred customers. I was expecting him to be like fuck off, but he showed me around, let me try on as many Omegas and Longines as I wanted. It wasn't busy, so maybe it wouldn't have been as pleasant if more high rollers were in, but they were super nice.
You cannot underestimate the importance of building that relationship in the present market....if you are a flipper they will smell you a mile away and get the usual polite refusal...I don't and will not kiss anyone's ass.. but they have to know your are serious and wont mess about if they call you..i cannot divulge my sources but believe me they have these pieces in stock you just have to convince them to sell you one...
To be fair as it is a register of interest you’re not going to develop highly expensive items if their is no market to sell your product into.
Primo ! Great content. Still amazed you can speak italian.
sethmorley1969 If you live in Italy it’s a must!😁
@@mrp9498 30 minutes away from Venice ... (I had to listen a second time). Thank you!
It helps to have an entourage, you, your football agent, make up! lol
I would agree with you on the video it’s all about relationships, no different then building a sales relationship with accounts. I would much rather be on the inside vs the outside always looking in. You can’t put a price tag on a relationship, same rings true here. I even called AMEX concierge service about helping me buy a Rolex. They have no influence over the Rolex retail shops.’’retail.
If you're a real highroller, you can afford to pay the premium for grey market and skip the BS.
You are 100% correct.
5:23 This is the only way to go!😏😆
Btw: I had a longer conversation with an AD and they don't have waiting list any longer. Other AD's already erased their lists due to othe reasons. If you want to buy a rolex steal sport model, you have to go the way as mentioned in this video!
So to buy a 10K watch you have to be the seller...👏👏👏
It's quite absurd, the world upside down.
In my job, every day I have to sell, I am not interested in making any effort to buy a watch and less, what it represents that watches.
I already have my Datejust, my Speedy and maybe the next one will be a JLC or a Seamaster 300, sellers of those AD's will be happy to sell them to me and even give me a good discount.
That said, good video and excellent channel. Thanks for sharing.
I live on a tiny island very close to Italy. We only have one Rolex authorised dealer and I have a great relationship with them. After seeing your video on the Rhodium YM, I called my contact and she said it could take months or even a year to get it!
I hate waiting, so I bought an unworn one at retail price on Chrono 24. It was on my wrist within 24 hours.
F##k wait lists!
yes, the beautiful thing about the YM is that no one has realized yet that it's the perfect sports Rolex. So it sells for just under retail. Congratulations on a beautiful acquisition!!
@ Agree 100% the YM 40 is so under appreciated at the moment. I've also got the blue version 😉..... Both equally stunning in my opinion.
Good tip thanks
Always a fab view