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My ex and I went to a religious 'relationship counselor'... and at the break, we discussed how the guy was a quack because it was all about 'the man should change, the woman should lead him through this change'. Even though, we decided to hear him out and went back in, after the break. As we sat down, a guy in the back called him out with "All you are saying is to do what your wife wants and all will be fine (happy wife - happy life)". Then, all the guys agreed and the guy lost control of his program. This was in the '90s.
I was a Christian for 12 years; really appreciate the episode. Look forward to reading Rollo's new book. I was disillusioned after seeing many young couples getting married, and having kids+getting divorced within the 1st year of marriage. Still in touch with someone who's unhappily married to her husband that provides a good living. Her unhappiness is the fault of his character flaws, apparently. Cheers
So true and know of many who have and are still experiencing this bondage all because of religion … it’s is so rigid and no wonder so many men and women are deprived of a purpose and expressing their true sexuality !!!
We’re you worshipping Jesus and reading the Bible or following your churches way of doing things? Don’t throw out the baby with the bath water. Your soul is on the line friend. Jesus reversed all the wrongs you did do you can be right with God. Believe, repent, and be baptized in the name of Jesus
From a Christian marriage standpoint, it’s the idea of a man and wife becoming one. Tearing that apart is damaging to those involved and there’s connections between two sexual partners of that nature that don’t always go away. Rollo even hits on this subject when he discusses in his books and elsewhere how the higher a notch count a woman has the less capable she is to commit to one man later. It’s almost as if those who wrote scripture had a better understanding of the nature of women than most men do today.
Only 14 minutes in and Rollo has completely validated my observations with regard to the current Church environment, alleged "church girls", dating in general, etc. Full disclaimer, I'm pretty Beta when it comes / came to dealing with women. Not deflecting my own faults, just putting it out there, because for the longest time I didn't quite understand how socialization with the opposite sex worked and made pretty bad assumptions. I did have a steady girlfriend for about 5 months before I could tell definitively that it was not going to work out, plus as beta as I was, I got sick and tired of the random shit tests and dumped her. I hated doing it because I always thought that getting rejected sucked, but being the rejector felt even worse. From that point on, I thought that there was something wrong on my part (which is probably still a valid self-observation), but then I found the Red Pill a few years later and things made a LOT more sense, putting into words what I had only begun to suspect.
I completely agree with you bro. The reason why you felt bad is because you have a kind heart, you never wanted to dump her but you knew deep down inside that it wasn't working out. My ex is exactly like the girl who you were with but she dumped me, and for so many months I wasn't able to let go because of how much she emotionally manipulated me and hooked me in.
25:00 I think one major reason why premarital sex is prohibited in many religions is to insure children are born into a committed marriage relationship. Until relatively recently, contraception was very limited to prevent out-of-wedlock births. Fathers wanting to insure their own paternity is no doubt a cultural factor too, as you said. Until recent DNA testing, there was always the possibility that an adulterous wife could birth a child that is not the husband's.
In islam thats pretty much the reason to ensure paternity even during divorce the woman cant marry another man for 3 months to ensure the last husbands paternity but incase of adultery its much harder as they had no dna testing and a husband had more chance to impregnate her than the afair partner she sees once a week. But if the husband was to catch his wife cheating he could do something called liaan and disown his children even though there might have been a chance its his own children kinda crazy how men Back in those times literally disowned children just on 50/50 probability and nowadays the child could come out black and the husband would still be forced to take care of it
Hi Rich and Rollo! Great meeting and cool to see you both talking about this stuff. From my experience, guys I have met who are connected somehow to religion, I can say, that are not so beta in comparison to guys spotted in public, draining themselves out in the hell of a c*hold. In the matter of fact, these church guys have the alpha mindset (as we all know, it is only matter of circumstances where beta behavior can occur, as all men make mistakes and from mistakes they rise. Even bringing simple psychology - behavior is made from experience) - because they are not bound to materialistic things, lust, but the faith, which corresponds to the mindset of TRP - because of the focus - on self-improvement, be close of the natural relationship dynamics with self and surroundings, where man is a man and woman is a woman, but I agree - nowadays even religions have that feeling of "something is not right", bringing in "new social norms", but even the Bible says - Woman was formed from the limb of man. Period. Additionally, Rollo mentioned polarities. I am self-studying and practicing already for 2 years eastern astrology and I can say that polarities really attract, but as always, complimenting each others values and "the interest" is as important.
This was a great episode Rollo & Rich.... I am very curious to see the effects of Feminism in Muslim culture in the middle east over the next 10 years.. will the (quote on quote) patriarchy prevail or will it crash and burn
You don't have to wait 10 years, feminism already destroyed the muslim society. For example in Algeria (muslim country, north africa)12 million unmaried woman from 50 milllion population country
I come from a patriarchal conservatives religious community in America. For example, women quietly stand in the back of church. When a man visits his fiancée he bows to her from the waist and she bows to him to the floor. I am 29 years old. Couples of my parents generation and older never divorced no matter what. In extreme situations a couple would separate but not divorce or date anyone else. People in my generation and younger have had several divorces. Our divorce rates are a lot lower than the American average, but are on the way up.
Good stuff Rich and listening to Rollo's extremely eloquent and sourced information is always such an intellectual high. Please never stop the discussions, guys. The Venom of feminism is spreading worldwide and men will need this more and more, and as with important subjects.....REPEAT until it takes permanent residence in the brain!
Totally agree with your point about “woke” culture being the new religion. Man, I tell ya, it’s hard to exist as a straight man in modern western society. Masculinity is toxic. Sexual expression (by men) is predatory. And self reliance (opposed to reliance on state welfare) is just plain selfish :p
I've been saved for about 5 years and attend church regularly. What I have noticed in my church is that men get ridden pretty hard about their role in the marriage, but women do not get equal time. It is talked about but it's very different. A woman will never be shamed for not living up to her Biblical requirements in the same way a man will be.
can confirm, as an athiest that i did have oneitis and was blue pilled. shockingly i was beyond miserable for most of my life until i turned it around. its like i always say everybody loves the idea of love but nobody maintains it.
In my experience growing up in a traditional church. There’s a small pool of women to have a relationship with. I had to make a choice. Leave the church to find a woman. Or stay and risk living a lonely life.
@@mike-cc3dd lol you can't actually believe that his salvation was dependent on that one particular denominational congregation. One's salvation is not based on the church they attend lol
There’s literally scriptures in the Bible that say women should keep quiet and let men lead the church. But women today will cherry pick what benefits them.
Women AND men cherry pick and gerrymander how they interpret scripture. That's one of my biggest issues with Christianity, there's no consistent methodology for interpreting scripture and applying it to our lives in 2021.
@@stealth797 women do it wayyy more then men. I grew up in the Christian church and very few Christian men I met cherry picked scriptures. Did they abide by the book fully no but they did not make excuses and cherry picked for their benefit to be accepted as much as women do
@@Understandme44 I grew up in the Christain church too, even attended a bible school where I studied scripture and theology. Men do it just as much, just in a more pseudo-intellectual (less emotional) way than the women.
But there is a lot of incest.. and if a brother is molesting his sister they usually keep it quiet. I've seen documentaries where Amish women who come out against their abusers usually get exiled from the community... It's real f***** up....
I came across this channel a few days ago and have only seen a hand full of videos but I've found it to be very insightful into the behavior and physiology of women though the bit about hypergamy is super depressing and dare I say soul crushing. But I was never going to go after these types of women anyway I just thought it was interesting. The videos also affirmed a lot of my own behaviors too. In highschool I fell hard for one of my classmates and discovered what love was for the 1st time but I made a lot of mistakes. I was too jealous, gave the cold shoulder too often and attempted to rush things because I was the straight forward type of person that didn't play any games or beat around the bush. I tried to make things right by explaining my poor behavior and apologizing but she shut the door on me and it's never opened again. I let the love of my life slip through my fingers. I was Pentecostal and she was Catholic, the bible says not to marry a non believer 2 Corinthians 6:14 but I figured a Catholic was close enough though I was wrong. She led a secular life, loved to party drink get drunk, she swore a lot and didn't have a problem with premarital sex, I overlooked it because I placed her on pedestal, I didn't do any of those things. She eventually hooked up with a smooth talking bad boy type who was much taller than me and older than her by like 5 or 6 years I think. I was heart broken and fell into depression for like 7 years. I came out of it by putting value on myself and remembering the dreams I had placed on the shelf and things I wanted to do. Prayer also gave me peace of mind. But I was angry still so I said I'm just going to work on myself, get cut and slim and pursue my dreams by starting that business I had wanted to start. I decided to make a point of acquiring a younger practicing conservative christian woman no kids because that would just complicate things and no tats. I'm making sure that this time she's practicing Christian because everyone in Conservative Christianity is taught to rely on God to be their source and their provider Matthew 6:25-34 it doesn't mean that people shouldn't work it just means men and women should not become dependent on each other for money. They're also taught to not love money. It's ok to pursue a high paying career or start a big business but it can never get in the way of going to church or serving in the church or giving to the church the tithe, offering and alms because giving counters greed. A giving person can never justifiably be accused of being greedy. This increases the probability of a love marriage and not a financial security marriage. It's still not a guarantee because not everybody is a practicing Christian and are able to fool people with some great acting and lip service, so I'll have a prenup ready just in case. That's also another thing, Love, I haven't heard that be talked about in any of the vidoes I've seen or maybe I just haven't come across it yet. Love is important to me I have a lot to give and I want it in return too. Some may see it as weakness or maybe beta male qualities I don't know but it's one of the things that gives me my confidence and one of my motivations to be physically fit because I need to be able to defend my family against scoundrels, I can turn my cheek but I can't turn my families cheek that's rubbish nonsense. I live in California it's the freakin wild west over here with all the shoot outs. It also motivates me to earn so I can give the children I'd like to have a good life, I'm not trying to be that bum dad. But 1st I have to take care of myself, I can't take care of my family unless I first know how to take care of me, I wouldn't have wisdom to pass down to my would be kids otherwise.
Here's a hypothesis I need to investigate further: in the Church, gender differences/roles are lauded in speech, but not in practice. In practice, “gender roles'' simply refers to how a man and a woman each “feel” about a certain situation, which is reducing masculinity to the terms used to describe and delineate feminine qualities: “feelings."
Rich, the way you’re describing god, as “the man in the sky that you never met” shows that you’re confused what people actually believe god is. Guaranteed you haven’t put even few days into the evidence of god. Cold hard truth brotha…
@lati long I think you're barking up the wrong tree @lati long. Religion is a man-made tool to control EVERYONE in a particular society. For a Society to succeed it has to control a mans natural inclinations so they guarantee each man access to a woman who will have his offspring and that in turn also fulfills her inclinations to propagate the species and have babies which also in the process keeps the society going. The only problem is it hasn't taken into a woman's natural hypergamy which will come out when she perceives there is a better male for her to mate with. The funny thing is that as men start to pull away even more from marriage and LTR's for whatever reason the pool of men keeps on shrinking which is making more and more women desperate. The women don't realise or refuse to acknowledge that their own hypergamy and feminisation of society is what's caused this or is now making it worse. It's become Self-fulfilling Prophecy.
I know exactly what he's talking about.. single ministry also known as, young adults group... Meeting where adults between ages of 18 and 25 meet and have Bible study etc girlfriend and I were once invited to a young adults barbecue.. it's weird cuz my girl and I are in our thirties and we're looking at all these young thirsty guys surrounding one hot Christian girl.. who was pretending not to notice all these guys were thirsting over her lol
other advantage of getting married with a virgin women (not with the state, you can have a ceremony if you want to but you don't sign paperwork with the state) if she is virgin it is warranty no STD for both
Yep, even though she was committing adultery on a regular basis and abandoned the family home and children, the priest and everyone was still on her side.
I’m going through divorce (she adulterer repeatedly) am in Seminary and do not at all feel left out of church. But maybe my case is unique because she has made it known publicly on UA-cam constantly so it’s little surprising. /shrug
This is why it's so important for guys to learn Game... EVEN religious men who plan on getting married some day. Like Rollo says: "Red Pill is the theory, Game is the practice. One is incomplete without the other".
Red pill marriage: I said Honey we swore together richer or poorer in sickness and in health till death do us part. You ain't getting out of this any other way. You just remember that. I go big time for the Bible, I put it to the test, and burn't some rubber on the tires. This dog can hunt, God gives wisdom just submit and ask nice. He has your best interest at heart, remember he is making a man.
Just my take on this…What a great topic - grew up in the church - married within the church because it was the right thing to do. (Obviously it didn’t last) In those days men and women went to church to find the ‘one’ the man of G-d… many girls got married very quickly because of sex and then got divorced because they never really knew each other at all. You were not allowed to look outside the church so the choice was very beta… many have stayed in abusive and sexless marriages all because it’s under G-d … if your man is not chasing excellence which the bible talks about in the book of Daniel - that everything is done with a spirit of excellence then don’t even pursue it. Unfortunately the pulpit kept preaching the illusion of what marriage is and it was painted with rose coloured glasses of the knight in shining armour will rescue your from all your problems. And waiting forever for the perfect man which we know does not exist.
When you are talking about the spirit of excellence in the book of Daniel, you are talking about the fact that Daniel was blameless before being thrown into the lion pit? Or the strict diet he pursued?
Appreciate that Rollo has has done a lot of research. My criticism is the same for this discussion as with much of what it's discussed in the manosphere. Everything is so simplified and reductionist. Christianity is about so much more than marrying and raising a family although that's a critical part of God's plan for how man and woman should live together. They're so much more about dozens of other issues and relationships that have nothing to do with sex or marriage. Including relationship to the government relationship to one another relationship to your parents relationship to your fellow man. And most importantly our relationship to God and the pre-eminence of his design and plan for our life. I think it's important that listeners and readers of the comments understand this is a very simplistic and reductionist view of religion and especially Christianity
32:47 I am in the Orthodox Church in Romania, and here ratio is I guess about 120%, not 33% female to male ratio. But in the US it could be different.. Experience showed me that women are more attracted to social support groups provided by the evangelicals, and also women are less normative when switching the church, or accepting a new baptism.
Men leaving church because of divorce? Did either of you know that divorce isnt permitted in their religion? If they permit it, then its not really a representative of that religion. And doesnt apply. And well there goes your whole argument. "The pastor's on her side, the bible study is on her side" This is literally impossible in any devout church. You're making argument based on a non-church with unchristian belief systems.
@@-whackd The Bible does mention divorce, although not too much imo (I believe it only talks about how divorce is a no no and is really only permitted if one cheats on the other. After that, I think one can only remarry if the other spouse is dead and nothing was done wrong between the two of them. It's not a lot, but the info is there.)
Can you and your UA-cam associates create a book list of things you guys are reading... Or give us some ideas on how you find these interesting titles.
Rollo, the prohibition of eating bacon is not “magical thinking” or faith like you’re saying. It’s Law, and it hasn’t changed for Jews till today. So there is no kosher stamp buddy
Hi guys, hi Richard, What can we do to make the family laws fair? The government is making huge mistakes on fiscal policies, monetary policies, family policies... I don't understand this wide established Inustice. Are some politicians trying to change something??
More RP need to get involved in politics, but it seems politics is just as much of a headache, lol. Possibly pass a bill that if women have a choice of abortion then men can also have a choice of financial abortion and are allowed to not be financially liable for the mother and child if he chooses not to, or if the women choose not to tell him and doesn't want him except for financial support. (this can be reflective along the same timeline from conception to birth). Just an idea.
I don't have time for an 1:30 video, but I do have time for a few mins comment on the subject. Women's fertility starts to decline at 30, and most of them are pretty much sterile at 40. Men's sperm quality starts to significantly decrease at 50, but there is no maximum age that stops a man from being able to father a child. Keep this in mind when you seek marriage, you men out there.
If your church doesn't kick you out forever for divorce, it's part of the problem. (Don't even get me started on "DivorceCARE" or as my old preacher called it, Dating pool for failures)
Guys 32:27, it is not FATIMA, it is FATIHA as the guy wrote, which is a chapter in the QURAN. this chapter muslims read when they get married. FATIMA on the other hand is just a female name!
Despite what the religious leaders preach, Institutional Religion has never helped men in their spiritual development. By nature it is an individual pursuit.
I'm a Christian and stopped going to church because, as Rollo says, there's nothing for me as a believer in Jesus Christ,,the ultimate Alpha. Now I meet with men on Zoom and study the Bible.
God isn’t real as far as we can tell. Humans have had plenty of time to prove the existence of some higher power yet there is no strong evidence. There’s no such thing as an infalible perfect book and certainly no strong evidence the supernatural is even possible. People need to be honest with themselves. Now if someone can prove it definitively, then fine, but until then God, gods, ghosts, the devil, demons, heaven, hell, afterlife, and so on were very likely made up by humans. What’s so surprising about this? Humans are really good storytellers, that’s for sure, and humans have come up with various religious stories as well.
@@carlospalma_ I’ll grant you that there likely was someone (a mere human) named Jesus and that the Bible can be used as a book of history to “certain” degree. What we should absolutely discount as “likely false” is anything that relates to the supernatural such as talking animals, turning water into wine, levitating in the air, resurrecting the dead, parting the sea, etc. So in other words, there probably was a human Jesus, but no way can you prove there was a supernatural Jesus or supernatural anything. Prove that the supernatural is possible first. You know you can’t. Nobody can as far as we’re concerned.
The Cultural War in Islam was fought in the 1970's in Iran. In the mid-1970's there were College women in Western attire with skirts at the top of the knee. Not a burka to be found and the the radical Traditionalists attacked. The removal of the Shah was the Traditionalists win over the Modernists and signified the real start of the War on Civilization. the Meccans have been raised above National Law in many Western countries with predictable results. Notice that while the West is locked down to Citizen travel the Voldemorts can move feely across any Border...
By the way, in Islam, women can actually divorce their husbands via the Sharia court on the accusation of the husband not performing all the daily prayers or missing fasts in Ramadan. He can even be accused of devil worship. Also, these women tend to have very large and protective families which makes the husband trying to visit his kids, especially if they are young, will be quite difficult, to say the least. In short, it never was as rosy in Islam even before feminism. Muslim men, in Muslim or Muslim majority counties don’t usually talk about this kind (embarrassing) stuff with other men.
It's not as easy as you think Graham. In islam, a man has the right to divorce his wife anytime, he holds the key to divorce. A woman does not. She cannot divorce her husband unless he accepts the divorce or in EXTREME cases she goes to the courts to prove he has fallen short on his rights, such as prayer, physical abuse etc. These are extreme cases. In short, in islam a woman dosnt have the right to suddenly get a divorce for no reason. And even in the extreme case she gets a divorce (its called a khula in islam) she must give back the DOWRY her husband once gave her. So she is the one that loses money. Nothing else. Also, if a woman stops her ex husband from seeing the children, this is impermissible in Islam and she will be sinning & if taken to Islamic courts most often than not it gets sorted out. I hope that clears your misconception, if you have any other questions I'm glad to discuss. Thanks!
@@abufuturetrunks5630 The reality is, with perhaps the exception of places like rural Afghanistan and Pakistan, the wife can simply walk out of the husband’s house (with the kids) and she will have the protection of an army of relatives. The cops or religious police are not going to drag her back kicking and screaming. That never happens. At best, he will be told to “pray” that she comes back to him. If she doesn’t come back in four years, just about any Sharia court will automatically grant the divorce and make him pay child support too (including for previous ‘missed’ years, in many cases). And he may STILL not get to see his kids or have to go through a bunch of her unruly relatives each time. The cops won’t help the man and the Sharia courts won’t either, even after years of ‘he said she said’ trials about visitation. He will be alone and she will have ten relatives all willing to lie and even die for her. Never mind the brainwashing of the kids. In short, it’s really not all that much better these days for Muslims.
@@grahamashe9715 you're giving a very specific circumstance in which rarely ever happens. The woman cannot go up and leave islamically and take the kids for no reason. In a sharia country this is swiftly sorted. She may get away with it in the west but NEVER in a muslim country. That in of itself is totally haram (not allowed). You mention she'll have a bunch of relatives defending her. You'd be suprised how often men and practising Muslims in general give precedence to the religon compared to whims and desires. If a woman takes the kids and leaves and alienates the father she will be punished, either in the courts or On judgement day. This is a big sin. You've also forgotten a man will have this family too. I will say this rarely ever happens in muslim countries. I agree that it has happend a few times in the west, I am from the UK and I've heard many stories like this. Nevertheless, Islam gives a solution for that. Its just about whether people implement it or not. If she wants a divorce she can get it. Nobody wants to keep a woman that dosnt want to be there. He pays alimony and that's it. In the west a father won't be stopped to seeing his kids without solid proof. So she can run away all she wants with the kids, he'll still get visitstion
@@abufuturetrunks5630 Most Muslim and Muslim majority counties are highly feminised now. There are even female Sharia court judges now, believe it or not. Half or more of the people who work at the court are probably women too. If she wants out and wants the kids, she will get them. Especially if they’re young.
@@grahamashe9715 I think you're very mistaken. Most muslim countries are not feminised. From what i know the ones that are lenient towards women (not feminised) is Tunisia. And they hardly follow sharia nor do the people there follow islam. I also havent heard of female sharia courts in a muslim country, not even 1. Maybe you can show me 1. But I do know some Muslims in France and America are trying to alter the religon to fit western values. But in regards to muslim lands, I'm open to see the proof
that guy at 46:08 had me laughing so hard. Yeah I'll just bet she was . That should go on your list that if you believe things like that you're still a plugged in beta
This dude seems nice and I’m sure he is but is he a Mormon? and what’s going on with the ponytail hat combo? choose ONE brother and rock it! love and appreciate your stuff Rich, keep doing what you do, take care and as you would say peace
A hadith (Prophetic narration) in Islamic eschatology: "The False Messiah (Anti-Christ) will come upon this marsh of Marriqanat (near Medina, Saudi Arabia). Most of those who go out to him will be women, until a man goes back to his wife, his mother, his daughter, his sister, and his aunt to shackle them tightly, fearing they would go out to him." (Source: Musnad Ahmad) We're approaching the endgame, men.
As a muslim I can get married islamically I do not havr to get married under the state. Islamic marriages are simple. Marriage is easy, divorce is easy, if you divorce their is no alimony, rather if SHE divorces you she has to give back the dowry you once gave her. If you have kids you pay child support that's it. Muslims that get married legally in the west don't help themselves! I know many muslims that get married islamically ONLY.
At 48:48, Evolution and God: God created Everything, and we are now discovering "Evolution", which God created because he was too "lazy/busy" to have to tell that male crab to go get the female crab... And for "Creation took 7 days"? How long is a "day" to the One who is the Beginning and the End?
You know quite an enormous amount about cars, finance, and women. However, your knowledge of Christianity is lacking in accuracy. Going by a denomination does not give a precise description of Christianity. All denominations of Christianity are man made, therefore flawed. Christianity at its core is vastly different from Catholicism. Which is where most people get their information on Christianity because they do not know the differences between them. This is known as the liberal view of Christianity, or Hollywood Christianity. Of course if one was too study, not just read, the Bible they would know their facts. If your going to try and blame religion, I recommend studying the religion.
haha my ex gf dragged me to bible study & church with her... but she still lied to me the whole relationship and then left me, great example of a church girl right there. Oh can't forget about the no physical affection what a joke...
I mean this sincerely... but why can't more people be leaving church because there has never been good evidence that a god exists? Maybe that's why ppl are walking away from religion, makes sense to me. Also, God should never make it into intersexual dynamics in the first place. Men that say "I'm waiting for God to bring me a good woman" Or new Christian women that say "now im done partying and I want to get right with god." These are completely invalid because there is no evidence that a God exists in the first place. Men and women don't just get to insert god... there needs to be evidence for a god first before said god can be a position in intersexual dynamics. They don't just get to skip that step of providing evidence.
No lol. Being a man is taking responsibility, in control of your life, and proud of who you are. You can easily be a father and husband but still be those things
What y'all may not know is that knowledgeable Muslims aren't surprised in the least bit by the spread of gynocentric orders, feminist distortions and emasculation. We have explicit Prophetic ﷺ prophecies mentioning that in the end times there will be: 1. Movements to corrupt women, 2. Men and women imitating each other, 3. Women who are covered and yet naked who lean towards evil and cause their husbands to lean towards evil (emasculated males), 4. That men will have to physically restrain their womenfolk when the anti-Christ emerges and reaches the outskirts of Medina, because the women will flock to him. So, we don't expect this stuff to slow down. We see it all as signs of the end times and yet we know what we must do in it's face. And, we also believe we will ultimately overcome it. This drives the psychology of most religious Muslim men. As you can see in areas of the world where entire superpowers have been resisted for decades, orthodox Muslims are much more committed to our beliefs than most others.
Anyone ever hear the term poor as a church Mouse just being a devout Christian isn't an easy in for men you still need the finances to afford a wife I've had a Pastor tell me that if you don't have the money to support her the rest of her life she's probably not even going to give you a Second Glance Christian women like Michael Kors bags and getting their nails done too go to any church and tell me you don't see that.
I will not be patronized by the squire who lies about court waiting to be feted with gift upon gift upon gift and risks nothing - nothing. He may acquire more property in this world, find more favor, eat more, drink more, bed more and otherwise call himself a man of arms. But in this hall and any other in my company, he will call me sir - sir, sir.
48:00 I did read the book the black box or something like that about Darwin's god etc... but it was full of shit, a mix of facts and huge jumps, like if I tell you these facts about Darwin and then add "that doesn't exclude him believing in god" without any need to back it up, that doesn't make it true... that book is full of THAT shit. I cant remember the exact name though, "Darwin's dark box" "The dark box" "the black box" anyhow, it is a good read but the arguments are full of it; based a lot on what Darwin didn't know at the time etc etc etc. I mean, yes, evolution is in fact a theory, but the use of that word in daily life is wayyyyyy different than what that theory is, all data so far matches that "theory" so much that is pretty much a fact... much of it is that you cannot find what isn't THERE. It is not the same as saying to your pals, "hey guys, I got a theory about how this cat got here"
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"Responsibility without authority is slavery" what a line.
Men today
The actual definition of marriage today.
My ex and I went to a religious 'relationship counselor'... and at the break, we discussed how the guy was a quack because it was all about 'the man should change, the woman should lead him through this change'. Even though, we decided to hear him out and went back in, after the break. As we sat down, a guy in the back called him out with "All you are saying is to do what your wife wants and all will be fine (happy wife - happy life)". Then, all the guys agreed and the guy lost control of his program. This was in the '90s.
a blue pilled beta male counselor is even worse than getting counseling from a typical female counselor
So basically you had a bad counselor. But that doesn't rule out the religious perspective on relationships.
I was a Christian for 12 years; really appreciate the episode. Look forward to reading Rollo's new book. I was disillusioned after seeing many young couples getting married, and having kids+getting divorced within the 1st year of marriage. Still in touch with someone who's unhappily married to her husband that provides a good living. Her unhappiness is the fault of his character flaws, apparently. Cheers
So true and know of many who have and are still experiencing this bondage all because of religion … it’s is so rigid and no wonder so many men and women are deprived of a purpose and expressing their true sexuality !!!
We’re you worshipping Jesus and reading the Bible or following your churches way of doing things? Don’t throw out the baby with the bath water. Your soul is on the line friend. Jesus reversed all the wrongs you did do you can be right with God. Believe, repent, and be baptized in the name of Jesus
@@danielaion2457 In case you haven’t noticed we do not support sexual liberation here.
From a Christian marriage standpoint, it’s the idea of a man and wife becoming one. Tearing that apart is damaging to those involved and there’s connections between two sexual partners of that nature that don’t always go away. Rollo even hits on this subject when he discusses in his books and elsewhere how the higher a notch count a woman has the less capable she is to commit to one man later. It’s almost as if those who wrote scripture had a better understanding of the nature of women than most men do today.
I'd recommend reading the book "Sex At Dawn" by Christopher Ryan.
Only 14 minutes in and Rollo has completely validated my observations with regard to the current Church environment, alleged "church girls", dating in general, etc. Full disclaimer, I'm pretty Beta when it comes / came to dealing with women. Not deflecting my own faults, just putting it out there, because for the longest time I didn't quite understand how socialization with the opposite sex worked and made pretty bad assumptions. I did have a steady girlfriend for about 5 months before I could tell definitively that it was not going to work out, plus as beta as I was, I got sick and tired of the random shit tests and dumped her. I hated doing it because I always thought that getting rejected sucked, but being the rejector felt even worse. From that point on, I thought that there was something wrong on my part (which is probably still a valid self-observation), but then I found the Red Pill a few years later and things made a LOT more sense, putting into words what I had only begun to suspect.
I completely agree with you bro. The reason why you felt bad is because you have a kind heart, you never wanted to dump her but you knew deep down inside that it wasn't working out. My ex is exactly like the girl who you were with but she dumped me, and for so many months I wasn't able to let go because of how much she emotionally manipulated me and hooked me in.
25:00 I think one major reason why premarital sex is prohibited in many religions is to insure children are born into a committed marriage relationship. Until relatively recently,
contraception was very limited to prevent out-of-wedlock births. Fathers wanting to insure
their own paternity is no doubt a cultural factor too, as you said. Until recent DNA testing,
there was always the possibility that an adulterous wife could birth a child that is not the husband's.
In islam thats pretty much the reason to ensure paternity even during divorce the woman cant marry another man for 3 months to ensure the last husbands paternity but incase of adultery its much harder as they had no dna testing and a husband had more chance to impregnate her than the afair partner she sees once a week.
But if the husband was to catch his wife cheating he could do something called liaan and disown his children even though there might have been a chance its his own children kinda crazy how men
Back in those times literally disowned children just on 50/50 probability and nowadays the child could come out black and the husband would still be forced to take care of it
This is possibly my favorite of Rollo’s books
She always has the Leverage. The state will always coke down on her side. "Not all Women will, but ANY WOMAN CAN...."
Hi Rich and Rollo! Great meeting and cool to see you both talking about this stuff. From my experience, guys I have met who are connected somehow to religion, I can say, that are not so beta in comparison to guys spotted in public, draining themselves out in the hell of a c*hold. In the matter of fact, these church guys have the alpha mindset (as we all know, it is only matter of circumstances where beta behavior can occur, as all men make mistakes and from mistakes they rise. Even bringing simple psychology - behavior is made from experience) - because they are not bound to materialistic things, lust, but the faith, which corresponds to the mindset of TRP - because of the focus - on self-improvement, be close of the natural relationship dynamics with self and surroundings, where man is a man and woman is a woman, but I agree - nowadays even religions have that feeling of "something is not right", bringing in "new social norms", but even the Bible says - Woman was formed from the limb of man. Period.
Additionally, Rollo mentioned polarities. I am self-studying and practicing already for 2 years eastern astrology and I can say that polarities really attract, but as always, complimenting each others values and "the interest" is as important.
good topic, religion is getting subverted by feminism, Rolo is always very through and eloquent, doing great research
Islam isn't.
This was a great episode Rollo & Rich.... I am very curious to see the effects of Feminism in Muslim culture in the middle east over the next 10 years.. will the (quote on quote) patriarchy prevail or will it crash and burn
I am also curious in south asian islamic countries. What would happen in the next 10 years.
You don't have to wait 10 years, feminism already destroyed the muslim society. For example in Algeria (muslim country, north africa)12 million unmaried woman from 50 milllion population country
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Eeeeeeveryone
Mostly will spread in urban areas.
Remember Iran?
I come from a patriarchal conservatives religious community in America. For example, women quietly stand in the back of church. When a man visits his fiancée he bows to her from the waist and she bows to him to the floor. I am 29 years old. Couples of my parents generation and older never divorced no matter what. In extreme situations a couple would separate but not divorce or date anyone else. People in my generation and younger have had several divorces. Our divorce rates are a lot lower than the American average, but are on the way up.
I wonder how satisfied are the married men compared to men successfully spinning plates with attractive women tho...
Good stuff Rich and listening to Rollo's extremely eloquent and sourced information is always such an intellectual high.
Please never stop the discussions, guys. The Venom of feminism is spreading worldwide and men will need this more and more, and as with important subjects.....REPEAT until it takes permanent residence in the brain!
"Paint your pills whatever you like you bozos"
Frustrated Rich cracks me up
Beta
@@jaykay4766 so your an alpha then?
Totally agree with your point about “woke” culture being the new religion.
Man, I tell ya, it’s hard to exist as a straight man in modern western society.
Masculinity is toxic.
Sexual expression (by men) is predatory.
And self reliance (opposed to reliance on state welfare) is just plain selfish :p
I've been saved for about 5 years and attend church regularly. What I have noticed in my church is that men get ridden pretty hard about their role in the marriage, but women do not get equal time. It is talked about but it's very different. A woman will never be shamed for not living up to her Biblical requirements in the same way a man will be.
can confirm, as an athiest that i did have oneitis and was blue pilled. shockingly i was beyond miserable for most of my life until i turned it around. its like i always say everybody loves the idea of love but nobody maintains it.
In my experience growing up in a traditional church. There’s a small pool of women to have a relationship with. I had to make a choice. Leave the church to find a woman. Or stay and risk living a lonely life.
So you put your companionship over your everlasting soul? Thats a pretty sad thing, bro
@@mike-cc3dd I know stat’s say women out numbers men in church but the little old ladies with blue hair are not exactly dating material.
@@mike-cc3dd lol you can't actually believe that his salvation was dependent on that one particular denominational congregation. One's salvation is not based on the church they attend lol
There’s literally scriptures in the Bible that say women should keep quiet and let men lead the church. But women today will cherry pick what benefits them.
Women AND men cherry pick and gerrymander how they interpret scripture. That's one of my biggest issues with Christianity, there's no consistent methodology for interpreting scripture and applying it to our lives in 2021.
@@stealth797 women do it wayyy more then men. I grew up in the Christian church and very few Christian men I met cherry picked scriptures. Did they abide by the book fully no but they did not make excuses and cherry picked for their benefit to be accepted as much as women do
@@Understandme44 I grew up in the Christain church too, even attended a bible school where I studied scripture and theology. Men do it just as much, just in a more pseudo-intellectual (less emotional) way than the women.
I would like to see amish statistics as far I can see their women are much better and as far as I know there is no divorce over there
@Shop Rat #92 theyre definately happier than non amish women
But there is a lot of incest.. and if a brother is molesting his sister they usually keep it quiet. I've seen documentaries where Amish women who come out against their abusers usually get exiled from the community... It's real f***** up....
@@moneytroco3204 They're happier than the AVERAGE non amish woman. Doesn't mean the amish lifestyle is the best path to happiness for women tho.
I came across this channel a few days ago and have only seen a hand full of videos but I've found it to be very insightful into the behavior and physiology of women though the bit about hypergamy is super depressing and dare I say soul crushing. But I was never going to go after these types of women anyway I just thought it was interesting. The videos also affirmed a lot of my own behaviors too. In highschool I fell hard for one of my classmates and discovered what love was for the 1st time but I made a lot of mistakes. I was too jealous, gave the cold shoulder too often and attempted to rush things because I was the straight forward type of person that didn't play any games or beat around the bush. I tried to make things right by explaining my poor behavior and apologizing but she shut the door on me and it's never opened again. I let the love of my life slip through my fingers. I was Pentecostal and she was Catholic, the bible says not to marry a non believer 2 Corinthians 6:14 but I figured a Catholic was close enough though I was wrong. She led a secular life, loved to party drink get drunk, she swore a lot and didn't have a problem with premarital sex, I overlooked it because I placed her on pedestal, I didn't do any of those things. She eventually hooked up with a smooth talking bad boy type who was much taller than me and older than her by like 5 or 6 years I think. I was heart broken and fell into depression for like 7 years.
I came out of it by putting value on myself and remembering the dreams I had placed on the shelf and things I wanted to do. Prayer also gave me peace of mind. But I was angry still so I said I'm just going to work on myself, get cut and slim and pursue my dreams by starting that business I had wanted to start. I decided to make a point of acquiring a younger practicing conservative christian woman no kids because that would just complicate things and no tats. I'm making sure that this time she's practicing Christian because everyone in Conservative Christianity is taught to rely on God to be their source and their provider Matthew 6:25-34 it doesn't mean that people shouldn't work it just means men and women should not become dependent on each other for money. They're also taught to not love money. It's ok to pursue a high paying career or start a big business but it can never get in the way of going to church or serving in the church or giving to the church the tithe, offering and alms because giving counters greed. A giving person can never justifiably be accused of being greedy. This increases the probability of a love marriage and not a financial security marriage. It's still not a guarantee because not everybody is a practicing Christian and are able to fool people with some great acting and lip service, so I'll have a prenup ready just in case.
That's also another thing, Love, I haven't heard that be talked about in any of the vidoes I've seen or maybe I just haven't come across it yet. Love is important to me I have a lot to give and I want it in return too. Some may see it as weakness or maybe beta male qualities I don't know but it's one of the things that gives me my confidence and one of my motivations to be physically fit because I need to be able to defend my family against scoundrels, I can turn my cheek but I can't turn my families cheek that's rubbish nonsense. I live in California it's the freakin wild west over here with all the shoot outs. It also motivates me to earn so I can give the children I'd like to have a good life, I'm not trying to be that bum dad. But 1st I have to take care of myself, I can't take care of my family unless I first know how to take care of me, I wouldn't have wisdom to pass down to my would be kids otherwise.
Here's a hypothesis I need to investigate further: in the Church, gender differences/roles are lauded in speech, but not in practice. In practice, “gender roles'' simply refers to how a man and a woman each “feel” about a certain situation, which is reducing masculinity to the terms used to describe and delineate feminine qualities: “feelings."
I would say that hypergamy is a consecuence of the fall.. Genesis 3:16
Wow thats crazy has the translation was changed and lots of versions remove the " contrary to her husband" part
Rich, the way you’re describing god, as “the man in the sky that you never met” shows that you’re confused what people actually believe god is. Guaranteed you haven’t put even few days into the evidence of god. Cold hard truth brotha…
Truth
I guarantee you haven’t met the man in the sky. Cold hard truth brotha…
@@playac1712 cringe atheism?
@@mike-cc3dd no I’m probably agnostic and grew up in church but I’ve never met the man in the sky 😂
@lati long I think you're barking up the wrong tree @lati long. Religion is a man-made tool to control EVERYONE in a particular society. For a Society to succeed it has to control a mans natural inclinations so they guarantee each man access to a woman who will have his offspring and that in turn also fulfills her inclinations to propagate the species and have babies which also in the process keeps the society going. The only problem is it hasn't taken into a woman's natural hypergamy which will come out when she perceives there is a better male for her to mate with. The funny thing is that as men start to pull away even more from marriage and LTR's for whatever reason the pool of men keeps on shrinking which is making more and more women desperate. The women don't realise or refuse to acknowledge that their own hypergamy and feminisation of society is what's caused this or is now making it worse. It's become Self-fulfilling Prophecy.
“Let’s trap her and see if we can clone her.” Made me laugh out loud, good stuff
I understood that reference.
I know exactly what he's talking about.. single ministry also known as, young adults group... Meeting where adults between ages of 18 and 25 meet and have Bible study etc girlfriend and I were once invited to a young adults barbecue.. it's weird cuz my girl and I are in our thirties and we're looking at all these young thirsty guys surrounding one hot Christian girl.. who was pretending not to notice all these guys were thirsting over her lol
That scene sounds creepy. I never understand how that works but hope triumphs reality in their thinking.
Ohhh how I remember those creepy groups
Good show, getting the book as I write; looking forward to the read.
other advantage of getting married with a virgin women (not with the state, you can have a ceremony if you want to but you don't sign paperwork with the state) if she is virgin it is warranty no STD for both
Correct the Indian way…
With unmarried sex you typically have a soul bond with that person you had sex with.
The best duo
Yep, even though she was committing adultery on a regular basis and abandoned the family home and children, the priest and everyone was still on her side.
Well then the priest was reject the precepts of his religion. Which is not likely.
I’m going through divorce (she adulterer repeatedly) am in Seminary and do not at all feel left out of church. But maybe my case is unique because she has made it known publicly on UA-cam constantly so it’s little surprising. /shrug
Wow she posted on youtube admitting what she did?
This is why it's so important for guys to learn Game... EVEN religious men who plan on getting married some day. Like Rollo says: "Red Pill is the theory, Game is the practice. One is incomplete without the other".
Red pill marriage: I said Honey we swore together richer or poorer in sickness and in health till death do us part. You ain't getting out of this any other way. You just remember that. I go big time for the Bible, I put it to the test, and burn't some rubber on the tires. This dog can hunt, God gives wisdom just submit and ask nice. He has your best interest at heart, remember he is making a man.
Just my take on this…What a great topic - grew up in the church - married within the church because it was the right thing to do. (Obviously it didn’t last) In those days men and women went to church to find the ‘one’ the man of G-d… many girls got married very quickly because of sex and then got divorced because they never really knew each other at all. You were not allowed to look outside the church so the choice was very beta… many have stayed in abusive and sexless marriages all because it’s under G-d … if your man is not chasing excellence which the bible talks about in the book of Daniel - that everything is done with a spirit of excellence then don’t even pursue it. Unfortunately the pulpit kept preaching the illusion of what marriage is and it was painted with rose coloured glasses of the knight in shining armour will rescue your from all your problems. And waiting forever for the perfect man which we know does not exist.
When you are talking about the spirit of excellence in the book of Daniel, you are talking about the fact that Daniel was blameless before being thrown into the lion pit? Or the strict diet he pursued?
When Rollo mentions Pork is Halal (permissible) he should have said Haraam (impermissible) in Islam.
Appreciate that Rollo has has done a lot of research. My criticism is the same for this discussion as with much of what it's discussed in the manosphere. Everything is so simplified and reductionist. Christianity is about so much more than marrying and raising a family although that's a critical part of God's plan for how man and woman should live together. They're so much more about dozens of other issues and relationships that have nothing to do with sex or marriage. Including relationship to the government relationship to one another relationship to your parents relationship to your fellow man. And most importantly our relationship to God and the pre-eminence of his design and plan for our life. I think it's important that listeners and readers of the comments understand this is a very simplistic and reductionist view of religion and especially Christianity
Oneitis is the religion of love. Love is your god.
Covered that in book 4.
Rollo is a good theorist and author, for sure. Regarding actionable advice, not so sure. But he provides some value, for sure.
32:47 I am in the Orthodox Church in Romania, and here ratio is I guess about 120%, not 33% female to male ratio. But in the US it could be different.. Experience showed me that women are more attracted to social support groups provided by the evangelicals, and also women are less normative when switching the church, or accepting a new baptism.
Love you Two. thanks a lot.
Men leaving church because of divorce? Did either of you know that divorce isnt permitted in their religion?
If they permit it, then its not really a representative of that religion.
And doesnt apply. And well there goes your whole argument.
"The pastor's on her side, the bible study is on her side"
This is literally impossible in any devout church. You're making argument based on a non-church with unchristian belief systems.
@@-whackd The Bible does mention divorce, although not too much imo (I believe it only talks about how divorce is a no no and is really only permitted if one cheats on the other. After that, I think one can only remarry if the other spouse is dead and nothing was done wrong between the two of them. It's not a lot, but the info is there.)
Can you and your UA-cam associates create a book list of things you guys are reading... Or give us some ideas on how you find these interesting titles.
Rollo, the prohibition of eating bacon is not “magical thinking” or faith like you’re saying. It’s Law, and it hasn’t changed for Jews till today. So there is no kosher stamp buddy
Hi Rich. I would be grateful if you can put the list of the books you and rollo mentioned in the description box. Thanks
Hi guys, hi Richard,
What can we do to make the family laws fair? The government is making huge mistakes on fiscal policies, monetary policies, family policies... I don't understand this wide established Inustice. Are some politicians trying to change something??
More RP need to get involved in politics, but it seems politics is just as much of a headache, lol. Possibly pass a bill that if women have a choice of abortion then men can also have a choice of financial abortion and are allowed to not be financially liable for the mother and child if he chooses not to, or if the women choose not to tell him and doesn't want him except for financial support. (this can be reflective along the same timeline from conception to birth). Just an idea.
Rollo is the last person I’d take advice from when it comes to religion and marriage
Who is the first person?
@@kebinyo lol
He is not giving anyone advice.
He is married lmao
Why chase excellence and not women: Vikings S4:E18 Revenge @ 7 minutes…. Exactly what you always say
I don't have time for an 1:30 video, but I do have time for a few mins comment on the subject. Women's fertility starts to decline at 30, and most of them are pretty much sterile at 40. Men's sperm quality starts to significantly decrease at 50, but there is no maximum age that stops a man from being able to father a child. Keep this in mind when you seek marriage, you men out there.
If your church doesn't kick you out forever for divorce, it's part of the problem.
(Don't even get me started on "DivorceCARE" or as my old preacher called it, Dating pool for failures)
Guys 32:27, it is not FATIMA, it is FATIHA as the guy wrote, which is a chapter in the QURAN. this chapter muslims read when they get married. FATIMA on the other hand is just a female name!
Despite what the religious leaders preach, Institutional Religion has never helped men in their spiritual development. By nature it is an individual pursuit.
I disagree.there’s ,God .but a person who talks about it must be spiritual this guy’s are not.
I'm a Christian and stopped going to church because, as Rollo says, there's nothing for me as a believer in Jesus Christ,,the ultimate Alpha. Now I meet with men on Zoom and study the Bible.
Hey man what do you think about Gnostic books such as the Books of Thomas and Enoch ? I looking into Christianity myself, thanks.
God isn’t real as far as we can tell. Humans have had plenty of time to prove the existence of some higher power yet there is no strong evidence. There’s no such thing as an infalible perfect book and certainly no strong evidence the supernatural is even possible. People need to be honest with themselves. Now if someone can prove it definitively, then fine, but until then God, gods, ghosts, the devil, demons, heaven, hell, afterlife, and so on were very likely made up by humans. What’s so surprising about this? Humans are really good storytellers, that’s for sure, and humans have come up with various religious stories as well.
@@thereviewer4173 LMAO the life of Jesus is proven historically. Your comment shows you have no education in regards to this topic.
@@thereviewer4173 you start your comment with a claim that you cant prove. But expect other people to prove their claim?
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I’ll grant you that there likely was someone (a mere human) named Jesus and that the Bible can be used as a book of history to “certain” degree. What we should absolutely discount as “likely false” is anything that relates to the supernatural such as talking animals, turning water into wine, levitating in the air, resurrecting the dead, parting the sea, etc. So in other words, there probably was a human Jesus, but no way can you prove there was a supernatural Jesus or supernatural anything. Prove that the supernatural is possible first. You know you can’t. Nobody can as far as we’re concerned.
By far, the best episode I ever seen on Entrepreneurs in Cars. Thank you Rich Cooper and Rollo Tomasi!
Excellent show
The Cultural War in Islam was fought in the 1970's in Iran. In the mid-1970's there were College women in Western attire with skirts at the top of the knee. Not a burka to be found and the the radical Traditionalists attacked. The removal of the Shah was the Traditionalists win over the Modernists and signified the real start of the War on Civilization. the Meccans have been raised above National Law in many Western countries with predictable results. Notice that while the West is locked down to Citizen travel the Voldemorts can move feely across any Border...
By the way, in Islam, women can actually divorce their husbands via the Sharia court on the accusation of the husband not performing all the daily prayers or missing fasts in Ramadan. He can even be accused of devil worship. Also, these women tend to have very large and protective families which makes the husband trying to visit his kids, especially if they are young, will be quite difficult, to say the least. In short, it never was as rosy in Islam even before feminism. Muslim men, in Muslim or Muslim majority counties don’t usually talk about this kind (embarrassing) stuff with other men.
It's not as easy as you think Graham. In islam, a man has the right to divorce his wife anytime, he holds the key to divorce. A woman does not. She cannot divorce her husband unless he accepts the divorce or in EXTREME cases she goes to the courts to prove he has fallen short on his rights, such as prayer, physical abuse etc. These are extreme cases. In short, in islam a woman dosnt have the right to suddenly get a divorce for no reason.
And even in the extreme case she gets a divorce (its called a khula in islam) she must give back the DOWRY her husband once gave her. So she is the one that loses money. Nothing else.
Also, if a woman stops her ex husband from seeing the children, this is impermissible in Islam and she will be sinning & if taken to Islamic courts most often than not it gets sorted out.
I hope that clears your misconception, if you have any other questions I'm glad to discuss. Thanks!
@@abufuturetrunks5630 The reality is, with perhaps the exception of places like rural Afghanistan and Pakistan, the wife can simply walk out of the husband’s house (with the kids) and she will have the protection of an army of relatives. The cops or religious police are not going to drag her back kicking and screaming. That never happens. At best, he will be told to “pray” that she comes back to him. If she doesn’t come back in four years, just about any Sharia court will automatically grant the divorce and make him pay child support too (including for previous ‘missed’ years, in many cases). And he may STILL not get to see his kids or have to go through a bunch of her unruly relatives each time. The cops won’t help the man and the Sharia courts won’t either, even after years of ‘he said she said’ trials about visitation. He will be alone and she will have ten relatives all willing to lie and even die for her. Never mind the brainwashing of the kids. In short, it’s really not all that much better these days for Muslims.
@@grahamashe9715 you're giving a very specific circumstance in which rarely ever happens. The woman cannot go up and leave islamically and take the kids for no reason. In a sharia country this is swiftly sorted. She may get away with it in the west but NEVER in a muslim country. That in of itself is totally haram (not allowed). You mention she'll have a bunch of relatives defending her. You'd be suprised how often men and practising Muslims in general give precedence to the religon compared to whims and desires. If a woman takes the kids and leaves and alienates the father she will be punished, either in the courts or On judgement day. This is a big sin. You've also forgotten a man will have this family too. I will say this rarely ever happens in muslim countries. I agree that it has happend a few times in the west, I am from the UK and I've heard many stories like this. Nevertheless, Islam gives a solution for that. Its just about whether people implement it or not. If she wants a divorce she can get it. Nobody wants to keep a woman that dosnt want to be there. He pays alimony and that's it. In the west a father won't be stopped to seeing his kids without solid proof. So she can run away all she wants with the kids, he'll still get visitstion
@@abufuturetrunks5630 Most Muslim and Muslim majority counties are highly feminised now. There are even female Sharia court judges now, believe it or not. Half or more of the people who work at the court are probably women too. If she wants out and wants the kids, she will get them. Especially if they’re young.
@@grahamashe9715 I think you're very mistaken. Most muslim countries are not feminised. From what i know the ones that are lenient towards women (not feminised) is Tunisia. And they hardly follow sharia nor do the people there follow islam. I also havent heard of female sharia courts in a muslim country, not even 1. Maybe you can show me 1. But I do know some Muslims in France and America are trying to alter the religon to fit western values. But in regards to muslim lands, I'm open to see the proof
All this red pill started from one guys rib.
that guy at 46:08 had me laughing so hard. Yeah I'll just bet she was . That should go on your list that if you believe things like that you're still a plugged in beta
What is the schedule for the TUA?
"A Devout Atheist."- Sam Harris
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Rollo says burkas are make arting?
What on earth is make arting? Anyone please?
Mate guarding
This dude seems nice and I’m sure he is but is he a Mormon? and what’s going on with the ponytail hat combo? choose ONE brother and rock it!
love and appreciate your stuff Rich, keep doing what you do, take care and as you would say peace
A hadith (Prophetic narration) in Islamic eschatology:
"The False Messiah (Anti-Christ) will come upon this marsh of Marriqanat (near Medina, Saudi Arabia). Most of those who go out to him will be women, until a man goes back to his wife, his mother, his daughter, his sister, and his aunt to shackle them tightly, fearing they would go out to him."
(Source: Musnad Ahmad)
We're approaching the endgame, men.
Jo yaqeen ki rah pe chal pade unhain manziloon ne panaah di
Jinhe was wasoon ne dara diya wo qadam qadampe behaq gaye
For the algo.
By the way, thanks gents.
Eating pork is “ haram” not “ halal”. Halal means a merciful killing of an animal. Haram means something that is forbidden or wrong.
I think he meant is they are supposed to eat halal diet like Jews do kosher
As a muslim I can get married islamically I do not havr to get married under the state. Islamic marriages are simple. Marriage is easy, divorce is easy, if you divorce their is no alimony, rather if SHE divorces you she has to give back the dowry you once gave her. If you have kids you pay child support that's it.
Muslims that get married legally in the west don't help themselves! I know many muslims that get married islamically ONLY.
At 48:48, Evolution and God: God created Everything, and we are now discovering "Evolution", which God created because he was too "lazy/busy" to have to tell that male crab to go get the female crab...
And for "Creation took 7 days"? How long is a "day" to the One who is the Beginning and the End?
I'd really recommend reading the book "Sex At Dawn".
A lot of the abandonment of the church was due to the rampant child sexual abuse committed by priests worldwide, it’s unforgivable
Nope. The abandonment of the church came from the destruction of the family and the abandonment of objective reality.
treat all snakes as lethal animals even if not are like that.
same as guns, treat them all as if there were loaded even if they are not
Empty barrel shoots the loudest.
This would make a great weekly show.
You know quite an enormous amount about cars, finance, and women. However, your knowledge of Christianity is lacking in accuracy. Going by a denomination does not give a precise description of Christianity. All denominations of Christianity are man made, therefore flawed. Christianity at its core is vastly different from Catholicism. Which is where most people get their information on Christianity because they do not know the differences between them. This is known as the liberal view of Christianity, or Hollywood Christianity. Of course if one was too study, not just read, the Bible they would know their facts. If your going to try and blame religion, I recommend studying the religion.
haha my ex gf dragged me to bible study & church with her... but she still lied to me the whole relationship and then left me, great example of a church girl right there. Oh can't forget about the no physical affection what a joke...
I mean this sincerely... but why can't more people be leaving church because there has never been good evidence that a god exists? Maybe that's why ppl are walking away from religion, makes sense to me. Also, God should never make it into intersexual dynamics in the first place. Men that say "I'm waiting for God to bring me a good woman" Or new Christian women that say "now im done partying and I want to get right with god." These are completely invalid because there is no evidence that a God exists in the first place. Men and women don't just get to insert god... there needs to be evidence for a god first before said god can be a position in intersexual dynamics. They don't just get to skip that step of providing evidence.
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Very interesting conversation. Rich asked some great questions too
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Is it Beta to be a Father or get married?
No lol. Being a man is taking responsibility, in control of your life, and proud of who you are. You can easily be a father and husband but still be those things
What y'all may not know is that knowledgeable Muslims aren't surprised in the least bit by the spread of gynocentric orders, feminist distortions and emasculation. We have explicit Prophetic ﷺ prophecies mentioning that in the end times there will be:
1. Movements to corrupt women,
2. Men and women imitating each other,
3. Women who are covered and yet naked who lean towards evil and cause their husbands to lean towards evil (emasculated males),
4. That men will have to physically restrain their womenfolk when the anti-Christ emerges and reaches the outskirts of Medina, because the women will flock to him.
So, we don't expect this stuff to slow down. We see it all as signs of the end times and yet we know what we must do in it's face.
And, we also believe we will ultimately overcome it.
This drives the psychology of most religious Muslim men.
As you can see in areas of the world where entire superpowers have been resisted for decades, orthodox Muslims are much more committed to our beliefs than most others.
All "ism's" are religions aka Chathism, musilism, athism extra. Christianity is a life style how to live ones like in with each other, nature and god
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Rollo writing a book on game lmao.
Even tho Rollo isn't out cold approaching, most of what he says lines up with what us guys who ARE approaching regularly experience in the real world.
@advancedapathy those who can, do. Those who can’t…teach.
4 da algo
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"Ministry" has typically more abusive situations. Mental and/or physical.
1:11:20 fat building and muscle burning 😂
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Latin mass Catholic Churches
FFSP Or SSPX
Don’t have these problems
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I’m gonna change my name to dr piper
Hey rich
Anyone ever hear the term poor as a church Mouse just being a devout Christian isn't an easy in for men you still need the finances to afford a wife I've had a Pastor tell me that if you don't have the money to support her the rest of her life she's probably not even going to give you a Second Glance Christian women like Michael Kors bags and getting their nails done too go to any church and tell me you don't see that.
I will not be patronized by the squire who lies about court waiting to be feted with gift upon gift upon gift and risks nothing - nothing. He may acquire more property in this world, find more favor, eat more, drink more, bed more and otherwise call himself a man of arms. But in this hall and any other in my company, he will call me sir - sir, sir.
TRP? If you need TRP that's probably why you're in your feelings about past women troubles.
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I did read the book the black box or something like that about Darwin's god etc... but it was full of shit, a mix of facts and huge jumps, like if I tell you these facts about Darwin and then add "that doesn't exclude him believing in god" without any need to back it up, that doesn't make it true... that book is full of THAT shit. I cant remember the exact name though, "Darwin's dark box" "The dark box" "the black box" anyhow, it is a good read but the arguments are full of it; based a lot on what Darwin didn't know at the time etc etc etc.
I mean, yes, evolution is in fact a theory, but the use of that word in daily life is wayyyyyy different than what that theory is, all data so far matches that "theory" so much that is pretty much a fact... much of it is that you cannot find what isn't THERE.
It is not the same as saying to your pals, "hey guys, I got a theory about how this cat got here"