btw, if youre wondering why it one shots from far sometimes. lightweights have a flat-ish diamond spread, which is similar to the shape of a sliding player. if you noticed, the guy you mapped was sliding as well
Huh! Could be on to something. A guy sliding across your view has his legs out, maybe that's what's needed to catch the pellets at the right/left corner of the diamond.
This might be intentional because lightweights are meant to be more defensive shotguns since they have higher handling for using a primary to get them half health and then quickly swapping for the clean up. So a diamond shape makes it even better against opponents sliding at you
if that's intentional it's genius. if not, it's still pretty cool makes a ton of sense. the gun is good when its spread matches the shape of the opponent
It's more than just weird, the whip animation is actually slower than usual. No reason why Bungie did it like this but that's the reason why it feels off to so many people
@@anthonymarquez7542 i thought you meant the gun for a second and then realized you weren't incorrect about the date, I was incorrect about the subject...
I feel like the Lightweight frame is the REAL Precision frame in that you need to at least have some of the pellets hit crit - which in turn leads you to need to be more accurate with your shots.
I mean, it’s fine that it can’t one shot. The reason you would take a Lightweight shotgun in the first place is for clean up kills and hotswapping. Before the change, it couldn’t even do that properly. Now it actually doesn’t stink now.
@@ericx6969 No, they dont lol. Lightweights were the meta at one point and they could never 1 shot. Shotguns are meant to swap to. If you care about 1 taps that much, you’re essentially a shotgun straight liner(not you specifically, just in general).
I agree. That shotgun model has always been one of my favorites... they don't have to give us opening shot but I'd like fragile focus or elemental capacitor
@@JH-vb1wo I still have the one I got from Season of the Seraph. I've gotten more kills with it than any other shotgun I have. But after the pellet spread changes it went into my vault
@@weebtrash3376 It's a much less common occurrence than you think. You'd have better luck in the dungeon, but it's still not a good thing, I can agree on that
I have god roll Riis and crafted Wastelander and honestly my Iron Reach Riis is not hitting as far as my Wastelander, Wastelander is far better in range, but Riis feels better to swap out to if that makes sense
It looks like you have to aim closer to the neck/head whereas other shotguns you aim for center mass, I think the swap speed and movement bonus could make it worth it with practice
The point you made about Wastelander is exactly why I run Perpetual Motion on my crafted roll. It adds to what is already a really solid shotgun, it's noticeable 👊
I like the idea of lightweights as a purely chip based shotty, which can really only 1shot when super close. Maybe make their midrange chip more consistent and give them a 3rd shot on PvP spawn, while leaving 1 shot range minimal. Gives them a unique identity and promotes a playstyle way more fun then the average SG which most players will just ape with. SGs feel pretty good right now with the exception of a few out of band options like matador, think they'll do a bit better once the zoom changes bring down SMGs a bit, and if fusions become too dominate in that absence I'd rather see those nerfed then shotguns buffed.
They're much better now. If you cant get a god roll fracty or matador, the craftable lightweights currently available (Wastelander and without remorse) are now thankfully decent alternatives. The god roll precision frames are still better, but the gap is much smaller now, the fact that you an craft the perfect lightweight in either slot is very good too. Conditional Finality is its own thing, it is just all around the best shotty in PVP right now and nothing really compares IMO.
I wish they buffed slugs because sometimes I swear I'll aim for the head and it doesn't connect, needs to be a better hit box on slugs. The iron banner ome is good
Need to check out Riiswalker, way more base range than the other lightweights with Iron Reach. It’s always been my favorite lightweight. Also has a longer barrel/gun model than Wastelander which I’ve heard affects range.
Idk but Riiswalker with iron reach seems to be the most consistent to me. As for precision frames I prefer Retold with qd over Matador despite having a god roll. Matador just seems to have this habit of taking too long to fire when you swap despite threat detector.
I snagged a xenoclast with cork, assault mag, slideshot rampage with a range masterwork, and it feels insanely nice, not as much oneshot range obviously but one stack of rampage makes it feel like a precision
Decided to try out strand hunter and use your play style. I’m having the most fun I’ve had in months playing destiny, although I still haven’t mastered the super lol
Riiswalker, Barrel Shroud Accurized w/ QuickDraw Iron Reach, Range Masterwork. So happy I kept it aside, feels nice to dust it off. Hard to say if I like it better than Fractethyst, but it’s giving it a run for its money.
The gun appears to be very good, its just maybe Precions are powercrept? Maybe change how you aim. I mean lightweights are giving you a movement buff so we cant make it op as precisions
With my crafted without remorse I was getting 8m kills 50/50 and 7m 100% you just gotta hit above the hip so all pellets hit. Very consistent and very good for cleanups and close range Encounters firing and moving faster.
I think I know why lightweights are inconsitant and it's because of flinch I think, because a lot of the time when wallah tried to shotgun he'd get hit at the same time as shooting, causing the gun to flinch while the pellets are being shot out, hense the no one shot
BROO!! $20???? I’m so sorry I didn’t see this! As of right now I don’t plan on working on any extra merch. Last time we did merch it went good but it’s hard to find a good website that does it without charging me an arm and a leg 😅 I think this was my first super thanks as well so thank you soooo much this is so cool lol you’re a beast brother
@@SayWallahBruh Hello. Just wanted to let you know slowbody (my husband) passed away on Friday (15th). He was battling cancer. He was in a lot of pain and couldn't do much so he watched a lot of UA-cam to pass the time and find comfort. Thank you for being there (unknowingly) during such a hard time in his life ♥️
Lightweights shouldn't have the same OHK consistency as a precision or aggressive. They give you the speed boost and are meant to be quick hitters to prime or clean up or get the kill if you use the speed to get close enough. I think the buff was good. Not OP, but a little better than before. Fits the role perfectly.
@@ericx6969you must be dumb then, lightweight shotguns are meant to be used to clean up kills more often then other archetypes. If every single shogun in the game was supposed to one shot there wouldn't be any need for different archetypes
I have an 85 range god role matador 64 and it’s the most inconsistent shotgun iv’e ever used and i played with a god roll matador in D1 so I really don’t know anymore with shotty’s
i did notice that most of the one shot moments in the vid were when slideshot was active and the one where u complained about it were mostly mid air plays so AE might still be a big factor on why you were missing shots, that and the tiny bit of range missing from slideshot. Anteus titans will enjoy wastelander.
@@kyreek2101Pretty beneficial if you're using weapons that benefit from the range. (High impact fusions/other stable fusion rifles). I wouldn't use in comp, since good players will know how to fight against it
@kyreek2101 Honestly mostly a meme exotic, funny clips of a like 25 meter chaperone headshot. But not very viable for the same reason no one uses the stag or Sanguine alchemy, it just isn't worth being forced to camp in your rift when other exotics are so good. That being said you can make it work, but it isn't remotely a meta option.
That is not a spread problem anymore, is a dmg per pullet now, lightweight shotguns have of the lowest dmg per pullet in the game that make to you hit almost all your pullets to get a one-shot kill, I think it can make the dmg of the lightweight like the dmg of the matador and reduce the dmg per pullet of the matador.
I’m glad you’re honest and saying that they aren’t to good (consistent). In my opinion, if lightweights got the consistency of precisions, they would literally just be to good. The movement/apeing is crazy with lightweights.
Yeah lightweights still don't lay people out like other frames, but I think that's fine since to me they're meant to be a high handling cleanup weapon more than anything. Someone straight up-aping with a shotty is def gonna have a better time with a precision or aggressive, but I prefer using them defensively and for cleaning up after some primary tags, this update just made them feel more consistent in that role so I'm happy with it.
this shotgun is probably best for "babys first shotgun" its easy to get from running dares so new pvpers wanting a shotgun but havent gone through any raids yet can get it
@@dylannichols3577it doesn’t only help for cleanups its less pellet spread on a craftable shotty that already can get max pretty much with enhanced slide shot and opening shot Max range*
The 61 damage you're seeing is from multiple pellets hitting the head. Instead of showing 3x crit numbers, it combines them into one. Headshots increase the OHK distance because you are doing more damage
i’ll probably use the wastelander now since i have a godroll, i absolutely hate the matador since i have a pretty mediocre roll for it so it’s time for me to switch.
Still think one of the best shotguns in the game is Compass rose, it's the same archetype as Matador .I have over 1000 pvp kills on mine. Soo glad they brought it back with new perks. I just have to farm a new godroll.
Imma be honest I didn’t know lightweights were so hated, I have a 5/5 Riiswalker, and I use it on striker titan with syntho’s. (Yes I know very meta) but honestly it works so well because it leaves them low health for a follow up melee. Pretty much lightweights are a titans primer to punch people after. But honestly I love Riiswalker so much.
Looking forward to using them how i believe they are intended. To be whipped out real quick for a clean up. Looks like theyll excell in that department now. Keep the raid shotty for when supers are coming up
Dang I wanted lightweights to be good again. I loved my seventh seraph shotgun it used to feels so good and consistent. Someday they will be good again but at this rate I doubt I will be playing the game.
A little bummed hearing a few people saying the buff isn't particularly great. Wasn't sure what to expect from it! Usually with Bungie it's either god tier or pointless!! This seems like they actually got a happy medium haha, T.F!? I like using Wastelander in PVE more tbh! No Back Up Plans, Wastelander with Smallbore, Assault Mag, Pugelist & Trench Barrel, Range MW. You can demolish a whooooole bunch of enemies with it & then have an OS afterwards!
When players like Wallah say... 'What's the point in continuing on, they suck", well, shit Bungie, that aint good! I still have yet to play test all my lightweights, so I am hopeful there may be one that shines after this latest, ahem, buff.
![Lp. Сердце Вселенной #30 ДВА В ОДНОМ [Один человек]• Майнкрафт](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/nrXy15orKhY/mqdefault.jpg)
CHECKOUT APEX GAMING PC's: apexpartner.app/redirect/SayWallahBruh
LIMITED TIME OFFER!! USE CODE WALLAH FOR UP TO $250 OFF! #ad
btw, if youre wondering why it one shots from far sometimes.
lightweights have a flat-ish diamond spread, which is similar to the shape of a sliding player.
if you noticed, the guy you mapped was sliding as well
Huh! Could be on to something. A guy sliding across your view has his legs out, maybe that's what's needed to catch the pellets at the right/left corner of the diamond.
This might be intentional because lightweights are meant to be more defensive shotguns since they have higher handling for using a primary to get them half health and then quickly swapping for the clean up. So a diamond shape makes it even better against opponents sliding at you
if that's intentional it's genius. if not, it's still pretty cool
makes a ton of sense. the gun is good when its spread matches the shape of the opponent
I know it makes the handling feel weird, but I personally like the “whip” animation like the chaperone
It's more than just weird, the whip animation is actually slower than usual. No reason why Bungie did it like this but that's the reason why it feels off to so many people
Brings back to the 1700s everytime
@@anthonymarquez7542 bro☠️
@@anthonymarquez7542 i thought you meant the gun for a second and then realized you weren't incorrect about the date, I was incorrect about the subject...
I feel like the Lightweight frame is the REAL Precision frame in that you need to at least have some of the pellets hit crit - which in turn leads you to need to be more accurate with your shots.
I mean, it’s fine that it can’t one shot. The reason you would take a Lightweight shotgun in the first place is for clean up kills and hotswapping.
Before the change, it couldn’t even do that properly. Now it actually doesn’t stink now.
He also shotguns from the air at least 50% of the time w/ stomp33z on
Shotguns are suppose 1 shot
@@ericx6969 No, they dont lol. Lightweights were the meta at one point and they could never 1 shot. Shotguns are meant to swap to. If you care about 1 taps that much, you’re essentially a shotgun straight liner(not you specifically, just in general).
@@ponger69 Yeah, but hes running slideshot and not using it
I wish the seventh seraph shotgun was included in the dungeon two seasons ago. It's pretty good but a refreshed perk pool would do it some good
I agree. That shotgun model has always been one of my favorites... they don't have to give us opening shot but I'd like fragile focus or elemental capacitor
One of the biggest blunders. Instead we got that auto rifle and HC....
@@JH-vb1wo I still have the one I got from Season of the Seraph. I've gotten more kills with it than any other shotgun I have. But after the pellet spread changes it went into my vault
@@UnsafeCoyotewhich they added to the world drop pool a season later making them completely pointless in the dungeon
@@weebtrash3376 It's a much less common occurrence than you think. You'd have better luck in the dungeon, but it's still not a good thing, I can agree on that
I have god roll Riis and crafted Wastelander and honestly my Iron Reach Riis is not hitting as far as my Wastelander, Wastelander is far better in range, but Riis feels better to swap out to if that makes sense
The Cerberus nerf to crystals did nothing, but the other nerfs to the stasis OS will hopefully stop the abuse of my favorite weappn
about time you changed your name man, i didn't think you were truly dedicated to the best gun in the game until i saw that
@@spocklesocks it is only the tag, I respect my dad's gaming skills w/ the Hangman name
@@Cerberus1141 equally based 👍
Cerberus still hits multiple times on a crystal 99% of the time so it'll shred
and Anti-barrier rounds this season make it even stronger
@@impossibleegg3689 It is still indifferent to barricades, same amount of shots
I think the reason it’s so inconsistent is because of the flinch you receive because of low stab and resil.
It looks like you have to aim closer to the neck/head whereas other shotguns you aim for center mass, I think the swap speed and movement bonus could make it worth it with practice
Yeah, plus they are really good for getting somebody weak with primary and then cleaning the kill up
The point you made about Wastelander is exactly why I run Perpetual Motion on my crafted roll. It adds to what is already a really solid shotgun, it's noticeable 👊
I like the idea of lightweights as a purely chip based shotty, which can really only 1shot when super close. Maybe make their midrange chip more consistent and give them a 3rd shot on PvP spawn, while leaving 1 shot range minimal.
Gives them a unique identity and promotes a playstyle way more fun then the average SG which most players will just ape with. SGs feel pretty good right now with the exception of a few out of band options like matador, think they'll do a bit better once the zoom changes bring down SMGs a bit, and if fusions become too dominate in that absence I'd rather see those nerfed then shotguns buffed.
5:16 I love pulling out quick 😂
as a lightweight shotgun frame im glad to be buffed (w wallah got me on strand hunter(
They're much better now. If you cant get a god roll fracty or matador, the craftable lightweights currently available (Wastelander and without remorse) are now thankfully decent alternatives.
The god roll precision frames are still better, but the gap is much smaller now, the fact that you an craft the perfect lightweight in either slot is very good too.
Conditional Finality is its own thing, it is just all around the best shotty in PVP right now and nothing really compares IMO.
Wallah is literally the Chuck Norris of Destiny 2 PVP, his movement is the best I've ever seen
I swear this archetype is crazy consistent against sliding players
they fit the diamond spread better
“Me personally Gary, I never get gunned like that.”☠️😂
I wish they buffed slugs because sometimes I swear I'll aim for the head and it doesn't connect, needs to be a better hit box on slugs. The iron banner ome is good
Need to check out Riiswalker, way more base range than the other lightweights with Iron Reach. It’s always been my favorite lightweight. Also has a longer barrel/gun model than Wastelander which I’ve heard affects range.
wastelander is better than Riis for some odd reason. idk why but Riis feels and handles like ass, and iron reach doesnt really help it that much
Riiswalker is absolutely my favorite shotgun
@@beckhamdickerson7590 lmao I would disagree but it is personal opinion
Yaaay wastloooonder is back
I'm gonna wastloooooooond
@@kalicula7718 and he wastlanded all over them
Idk but Riiswalker with iron reach seems to be the most consistent to me.
As for precision frames I prefer Retold with qd over Matador despite having a god roll. Matador just seems to have this habit of taking too long to fire when you swap despite threat detector.
I snagged a xenoclast with cork, assault mag, slideshot rampage with a range masterwork, and it feels insanely nice, not as much oneshot range obviously but one stack of rampage makes it feel like a precision
Decided to try out strand hunter and use your play style. I’m having the most fun I’ve had in months playing destiny, although I still haven’t mastered the super lol
Riiswalker, Barrel Shroud Accurized w/ QuickDraw Iron Reach, Range Masterwork. So happy I kept it aside, feels nice to dust it off. Hard to say if I like it better than Fractethyst, but it’s giving it a run for its money.
The gun appears to be very good, its just maybe Precions are powercrept? Maybe change how you aim. I mean lightweights are giving you a movement buff so we cant make it op as precisions
Precisions are not power crept lmao. Precisions pale in comparison to old shotguns. I just think everything needs to be brought up to them
@@Nosavot’s a fine line though, if they make the lightweights to consistent they’re instantly best in slot for the movement/handling buffs
@@Geechi_ Correct, the current buff they just made is enough
Id also point out that alot of his whiffs he got flinched pretty hard, they seem a fair bit better than before
hey wallah i was wondering what the best legendary non slug shotgun is in your opinion
It can't be hitting ranged one shots, or it would make presccions worthless. It has its moments but it's more a clean up or combo maker
With my crafted without remorse I was getting 8m kills 50/50 and 7m 100% you just gotta hit above the hip so all pellets hit. Very consistent and very good for cleanups and close range
Encounters firing and moving faster.
ADS'ing a shotgun doesn't do anything anymore right? Unless you have Full Choke?
My favorite lightweight shotgun I have is my Riiswalker with 83 range, quickdraw, and iron reach.
But have you tried riiswalker with iron reach? It feels god tier on controller
Isnt inconsistent if u hit all ur pellets which u should be doing
Hey, chat, is recovery or resilience better to spec into?
I think I know why lightweights are inconsitant and it's because of flinch I think, because a lot of the time when wallah tried to shotgun he'd get hit at the same time as shooting, causing the gun to flinch while the pellets are being shot out, hense the no one shot
This man saving that malfesance review for the season finally
I use this shotgun a lot and I like it better than my frac but my wastelander got full choke so maybe that’s why it wasn’t so consistent in the vid
Thanks for all the great content! you provide great information and laughs. Are you working on any shirts or other merchandise?
BROO!! $20???? I’m so sorry I didn’t see this! As of right now I don’t plan on working on any extra merch. Last time we did merch it went good but it’s hard to find a good website that does it without charging me an arm and a leg 😅 I think this was my first super thanks as well so thank you soooo much this is so cool lol you’re a beast brother
haha cool man, I totally understand the merch thing. Take care, love your stuff and just wanted to pay it forward a bit.
@@SayWallahBruh Hello. Just wanted to let you know slowbody (my husband) passed away on Friday (15th). He was battling cancer. He was in a lot of pain and couldn't do much so he watched a lot of UA-cam to pass the time and find comfort. Thank you for being there (unknowingly) during such a hard time in his life ♥️
Lightweights shouldn't have the same OHK consistency as a precision or aggressive. They give you the speed boost and are meant to be quick hitters to prime or clean up or get the kill if you use the speed to get close enough. I think the buff was good. Not OP, but a little better than before. Fits the role perfectly.
Shotgun that cant 1 tap are not shotguns
@@ericx6969you must be dumb then, lightweight shotguns are meant to be used to clean up kills more often then other archetypes. If every single shogun in the game was supposed to one shot there wouldn't be any need for different archetypes
@@ericx6969 use a primary
I have an 85 range god role matador 64 and it’s the most inconsistent shotgun iv’e ever used and i played with a god roll matador in D1 so I really don’t know anymore with shotty’s
5:13 it does WHAT!?!
Okay, but did you try it with Full Choke?
dude that play at 6:48 with the grapple was cracked wtf wallah????
"Run it back run it back run it back Wallah"
*fucking dies*
"Aight"
i did notice that most of the one shot moments in the vid were when slideshot was active and the one where u complained about it were mostly mid air plays so AE might still be a big factor on why you were missing shots, that and the tiny bit of range missing from slideshot. Anteus titans will enjoy wastelander.
DAMN WHAT WAS THAT MAP!
I noticed in many shots which should have been oneshots, that you have flinched. Maybe that was the reason for some situations.
You should play around with lunafaction empowering rift! It doubles the range of all weopons in your rift!
How beneficial are those boots in pvp(comp vs 6s)? Never really used them and exotics that tie me to my rift feel kinda restricting. Just wondering
@@kyreek2101Pretty beneficial if you're using weapons that benefit from the range. (High impact fusions/other stable fusion rifles).
I wouldn't use in comp, since good players will know how to fight against it
@kyreek2101 Honestly mostly a meme exotic, funny clips of a like 25 meter chaperone headshot. But not very viable for the same reason no one uses the stag or Sanguine alchemy, it just isn't worth being forced to camp in your rift when other exotics are so good. That being said you can make it work, but it isn't remotely a meta option.
That is not a spread problem anymore, is a dmg per pullet now, lightweight shotguns have of the lowest dmg per pullet in the game that make to you hit almost all your pullets to get a one-shot kill, I think it can make the dmg of the lightweight like the dmg of the matador and reduce the dmg per pullet of the matador.
I’m glad you’re honest and saying that they aren’t to good (consistent). In my opinion, if lightweights got the consistency of precisions, they would literally just be to good. The movement/apeing is crazy with lightweights.
Do lightweights still buff mobility?
Yeah lightweights still don't lay people out like other frames, but I think that's fine since to me they're meant to be a high handling cleanup weapon more than anything.
Someone straight up-aping with a shotty is def gonna have a better time with a precision or aggressive, but I prefer using them defensively and for cleaning up after some primary tags, this update just made them feel more consistent in that role so I'm happy with it.
This shit is about to be chaotic 😂
I js played a match and got absolutely shit on by multiple wastlanders
I hated the new shotgun changes because although it made more barrel options usable it also made a lot of shotguns UNUSABLE
i like the wastelander after da buff but imma stick wit found verdict bc its ma fav
Did they not fix the radar bug
this shotgun is probably best for "babys first shotgun" its easy to get from running dares so new pvpers wanting a shotgun but havent gone through any raids yet can get it
It might be better with full choke, this being the decreased pellet spread even further
I already did that just to see how it feels. Can’t wait to try it out.
Full choke only helps for cleanups, if you are going for one shots then more range is better.
@@dylannichols3577it doesn’t only help for cleanups its less pellet spread on a craftable shotty that already can get max pretty much with enhanced slide shot and opening shot
Max range*
It seems to whiff and does not enough dmg, but then again many times my Matador whiffs completely as well, especially hipfire
What kinetic shotgun did he recommend when he said “raid shotgun”
would it make a difference if you shot from the hip?
Same spread but shorter distance for damage falloff, so if you have the opportunity to ADS, you should.
Ive been using seventh seraph cqc for years now and theres no other shotty that i like using besides maybe heritage
can you do a video on the immortal after the target lock and rangefinder nerf?
Is it normal for a single pellet to hit 61 damage to the head? Thats kinda nuts. Could explain why headshots are needed to increase the OHK range.
The 61 damage you're seeing is from multiple pellets hitting the head. Instead of showing 3x crit numbers, it combines them into one.
Headshots increase the OHK distance because you are doing more damage
@@smogan4135 ahh makes sense
They should give Lightweight frame shotguns a +25 AE Bonus.
SayGaryBruh
Seems like aiming to put your shot into their low neck/shoulder level is the best bet, 90% of pellets hit and 2-3 pellets land headshots
I'll still use the wastelander...lever actions are my favorite types of guns so, I might be biased
It’s the slide shot that allows for it to reach its max range
i’ll probably use the wastelander now since i have a godroll, i absolutely hate the matador since i have a pretty mediocre roll for it so it’s time for me to switch.
My snapshot sights and QuickDraw seraph shotgun will be good one day.
My biggest complaint is why is wastelander not a energy shotty i hate kinetic shotguns 😬 cause i hate energy primary
Honestly I’ll probably start using it again, the raid shotty is nice but ima need that lightweight buff 👀
Still think one of the best shotguns in the game is Compass rose, it's the same archetype as Matador .I have over 1000 pvp kills on mine. Soo glad they brought it back with new perks. I just have to farm a new godroll.
what's funny is that i prefer lightweights over aggressive cause i think the aggressive archetype is way too lacking in consistency in pvp
It's the opposite, u probably just don't know how to properly shotgun tbh
@@Destiny0Hero maybe it's a matter of playstyle my dude. Not everyone feels the need to be a meta slave
@danielwilliams7562 it has nothing to do with being a meta slave u said something that was flat out wrong bud
@@danielwilliams7562 so I corrected it
@@Destiny0Hero please expound on the Dao of shotgunning. This junior humbly asks for your guidance
Does it suck or are we spoiled by how OP the spread pattern is on precision frames?
Imma be honest I didn’t know lightweights were so hated, I have a 5/5 Riiswalker, and I use it on striker titan with syntho’s. (Yes I know very meta) but honestly it works so well because it leaves them low health for a follow up melee. Pretty much lightweights are a titans primer to punch people after. But honestly I love Riiswalker so much.
can't wait for next seasons comp lightweight shotty that rolls with gutshot
Looking forward to using them how i believe they are intended. To be whipped out real quick for a clean up. Looks like theyll excell in that department now. Keep the raid shotty for when supers are coming up
Dang I wanted lightweights to be good again. I loved my seventh seraph shotgun it used to feels so good and consistent. Someday they will be good again but at this rate I doubt I will be playing the game.
What is that Hawaiian shader?
It might have to do with the internal timer of Opening Shot.
06:45 Perfect Bruh
My riiswalker has never not been consistent, it’s super easy to kill with 2 shots
wastelander is my fave gun in the game so i wouldve been spamming it even without the buffs, free upgrades tho
Feels like this shotgun is a mis between a slug and precision when it comes to how to use it
So, wait. You mean to say that Precision shotguns are more... precise?
My mind is blown right now.
A little bummed hearing a few people saying the buff isn't particularly great. Wasn't sure what to expect from it! Usually with Bungie it's either god tier or pointless!! This seems like they actually got a happy medium haha, T.F!?
I like using Wastelander in PVE more tbh! No Back Up Plans, Wastelander with Smallbore, Assault Mag, Pugelist & Trench Barrel, Range MW. You can demolish a whooooole bunch of enemies with it & then have an OS afterwards!
It's not right to compare lightweights that have opening shot. Need to look into non opening shot rolls to see if they any good
Throw on anti flinch mod you’re getting flinched to the heavens.
you should try the without remorse with enhanced perks i have a god one if you wanna use my account lol
It might be good with arc hunter so you can get them weak and finish them with a melee
just got an 5/5 riiswalker yesterday hehehe
that hunter fit is HARD
When players like Wallah say... 'What's the point in continuing on, they suck", well, shit Bungie, that aint good!
I still have yet to play test all my lightweights, so I am hopeful there may be one that shines after this latest, ahem, buff.
Even before the buff of Wastelander, remained loyal to it🙏🏼
Lightweights could probably benefit from Full Choke now.
Man's got enhanced slideshot & reload after every gunfight xD
Wallah is the lore accurate hunter