Hybrid Mixing | Neve 1073 Preamp | Re-Record Test | Pt 2

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  • @FaceTheStreets
    @FaceTheStreets 2 роки тому +2

    This was one the best comparison videos I've ever seen on hardware vs software. Preamps are something that just can't be emulated. That hardware unit made a huge difference on the mix. It's night and day. Thank you for sharing.

  • @30killabeatz
    @30killabeatz 3 роки тому +2

    the difference is huge!!! cant wait till my spx comes in

  • @DamonVargas
    @DamonVargas 4 роки тому +19

    Wow! This is making me wanna run everything thru hardware. Much more depth & easier on the ears. Great video?

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  4 роки тому +7

      Thanks! Be careful! Hardware is expensive....lol

    • @DamonVargas
      @DamonVargas 4 роки тому +1

      @@HomeRecordingMadeEasy lol..yea, no doubt. Maybe soon you can do a vid showing if more affordable hardware pre-amps, or something like my old Mackie 14 channel board would give the same, or even similar results.

  • @jsasa5668
    @jsasa5668 Рік тому +2

    Massive difference. Presence, openness, depth... Plug-in couldn't compete. It was specially noticeable on drums. Thanks for the video!

  • @sheanroche2548
    @sheanroche2548 Рік тому

    I think that's what makes 500 series so special. Great videos man.

  • @matthewray5343
    @matthewray5343 4 роки тому +4

    Thank you for putting in the time to at least try to get this for us.

  • @montraix
    @montraix 2 роки тому +2

    Just got a 1073 dpx and this video has me excited to start using it!!!

  • @doc31648
    @doc31648 4 роки тому +2

    hey man..hope you are well and safe...I am excited because I bought my 1st piece of hardware, a warm audio 1073 pre and eq...man it is just super! Thx again for all you do

  • @JerMarMusicGroup
    @JerMarMusicGroup Рік тому

    Hardware sounds great. I am new also. I’ve been on my journey for 2 years! I love it! Big difference in sound, depth and warmth! 👊🏾💯

  • @vicshere99
    @vicshere99 2 місяці тому

    I’ve been re-amping through a Neve 1073N, soft synths, piano, raw guitar tracks, BFD drum samples, and the improvement is astonishing. Spatially, extra girth/body, warmth, detail, everything magically sitting better in mix, everything sounding more real. Whatever Neve do with these things, it makes me very happy.

  • @i-mixed-up
    @i-mixed-up 3 роки тому +3

    Thanks for another video and demo. The hardware definitely brings more depth, presence, and perceived volume increase ( compression) . I’ll be ordering a pair of 1073s this week! I’m really interested in seeing your journey into hybrid; I’m starting on the same path. This vid is one the best I’ve seem / heard where the comparison is so distinguishable . The plug-in wasn’t bad either but having the choice, the plug-in would go into semi-retirement.

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  3 роки тому +1

      If you want to follow my journey into hybrid, check out my other youtube channel "Mixing Music Analog"

    • @i-mixed-up
      @i-mixed-up 3 роки тому

      @@HomeRecordingMadeEasy I found it and subscribed; thank you !

  • @albertrosa9954
    @albertrosa9954 2 роки тому

    Right of the bat! I just ordered my Neve. Thanks!

  • @carbonvibes
    @carbonvibes 11 місяців тому

    Very noticeable, even through UA-cam. Good job 👏🏻 The hardware sounds like there is more space and musical.

  • @Jvhkf207
    @Jvhkf207 3 роки тому

    Finally the test I’ve been looking for smart man

  • @imuzikworkstation3530
    @imuzikworkstation3530 2 роки тому

    Yea...i m glad u found the magic what neve does in hybrid daw mix..i did this since 2018 after buying Bae 1073 mp from vintage king..👍👍👍

  • @chandlerveasey4259
    @chandlerveasey4259 3 роки тому +1

    thank you for doing this test. love the hardware

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  3 роки тому

      Thank you for watching!

    • @chandlerveasey4259
      @chandlerveasey4259 3 роки тому

      @@HomeRecordingMadeEasy do you also have a video tutorial of how you ran it through the hardware back into the DAW? Does one 1073 neve pre amp take care of one stereo channel or do you need 2 mono mic pres for one stereo channel?

  • @drillgirl718
    @drillgirl718 3 роки тому +1

    even on small 3 inch monitors i can hear a maaaaajor difference, sounds so pleasing to the ear, i bought me a 1073 spx

  • @alsstudiocreative2102
    @alsstudiocreative2102 4 роки тому

    I am watching this clip with earbuds and the difference in pretty obvious. The hardware have so much more beef. Great video. Thank you.

  • @stehil1454
    @stehil1454 4 роки тому +1

    Wow!!!! The Hardware sounds Awesome!!!

  • @j.p.fitting9226
    @j.p.fitting9226 3 роки тому +1

    great drummer ! love this feel ! thnx for these vids ! cheers -jp

  • @velvetsound
    @velvetsound 4 роки тому +1

    Sounds fantastic and the hardware sounds so much more open and wide, with a more dimensional mix through hardware.
    I just got my AMS Neve 1073 LB and EQ 500 series racks and I have the Slate and UAD 1073’s. I think the UAD is slightly better than Slate as they more closely model the transformers, but the hardware is way better.
    Now to test my API channel strips from CAPI using the same test you just did!

  • @charliekey2979
    @charliekey2979 3 місяці тому

    The stereo field is better on the hardware and you can feel the dimension on the sound, also the definition increases. I love this video! I really want it to confirm with a second pair of ears what I found some time ago. I initially try this approach trying to get a less harsh sound of a horns virtual instrument that I like a lot and then by doing that I start noticing an improvement on the sound as well, then I took it to the next level by trying it on all my tracks.. I love hybrid mixing I couldn't have a studio without the digital world, there is a lot of digital tools and effects that it will cost thousands of dollars in the analog domain. In my experience, analog makes a bigger impact during tracking than over mixing. However, I respect the engineers that decides to work in the box, I'm not trying to say which approach is better, I'm just mentioning the facts as you can hear in this video.

  • @JasonBuffin
    @JasonBuffin 4 роки тому

    I use an SSL SiX in my studio and "reamp" tracks through it and it's like others have said, you can get there with plugins but I find that it's faster to get there just throwing it through the hardware.

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  4 роки тому

      Thanks for watching!

    • @AnthonyMartinsRock
      @AnthonyMartinsRock 4 роки тому

      Great! I do the same with my SiX. It's great for taming s's naturally and creating pretty closed to finished audio. I don't use plugins anymore unless I want special effects.

  • @preciseaudioblog
    @preciseaudioblog 2 роки тому +2

    1:39 Hi! So when you run the track through the Neve, should the Neve be at 0db gain? Or what should be the settings? Thank you!

  • @RichardGroulx
    @RichardGroulx 4 роки тому +1

    Hey David! Even on youtube, the difference is pretty apparent on my Audeze LCD-X headphones. I love the sense of space and openness you managed to get on the hardware Neve pres tracks.
    I'm still happy with what the plugins bring to the game but, at least in this demo, hardware wins!

  • @ryanweber1367
    @ryanweber1367 4 роки тому +1

    I definitely hear the difference the 1073 has more depth going through the hardware adds a nice natural compression. Would love to see you do a video on how to re record the tracks in studio one I have a couple of preamps I would like to run my tracks through what a nice difference. Thanks for the video

  • @dodo13500
    @dodo13500 4 роки тому

    I heard the same as you using headphones Sony MDR 7506. Sound did open up.Thanks for doing these. I have been toying with going that route.

  • @massimilianoasara
    @massimilianoasara Рік тому

    night and day! It's definitely a must in mastering, thanks! I'd like to listen the same test through some api 512.

  • @FrontCoverBand
    @FrontCoverBand 7 місяців тому

    Thanks so much for the video!

  • @shawnlutz7008
    @shawnlutz7008 4 роки тому +1

    Cool video. I like this topic as I also run hybrid set up. I also recently built an outboard analog chain. I use Apollo and UAD2 Plug-ins, which are great btw, that lead me to wanting to go with some hardware on the input side initially. I do this stuff for fun so I didn't whip out the cash for the real deal so I went with Warm Audio clones of Neve 1073 EQ, UA 1176LN and Pultec Tube EQ. That basically is the path with an SM-57 on various amp/cabs going straight into the 1073. I like it a lot, I cannot compare the clones to the original hardware but I can say this WA stuff on its own right sounds great. I want another of their Pultec for stereo mixing. I have one of those Samson 48 pt patch bays that I'll use to easily patch around I/O's. I like having physical knobs to turn, think we all do or we wouldn't have control surfaces.

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  4 роки тому +2

      I have heard aobut the WARM audio stuff and it seems to be pretty good for the $$$ and they are becoming very popular

  • @donniehill5688
    @donniehill5688 4 роки тому

    Great Demo. Hardware really opened it up.

  • @stereofloat
    @stereofloat 4 роки тому +1

    Really noticeable difference, it became alive thru the preamp.

  • @terrytees
    @terrytees Рік тому

    Listening to this on my tv and it's still like night and day to me, one sounds like a recording while the other sounds like a record. It gels on the rerecord. Question did you run the tracks though the line part of the 1073? Speaks volumes for the output transformer on the line output if so. I presume you did as it doesn't sound darker which I would have thought would be the case if the line was massively padded before hit a mic level.

  • @TacomaEscape
    @TacomaEscape 3 роки тому +2

    Killer review man! 🤘
    I am blown away by the differences as well. Everything just has more room to sit balanced together and that depth/phatness from to the kick & snare I love from the hardware
    How long did it take you to print all 15 tracks back into Studio?

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  3 роки тому +3

      not very long.

    • @TacomaEscape
      @TacomaEscape 3 роки тому +1

      @@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Cool that’s what I was hoping you’d say. I’ve toy’d with the idea of just getting 4 of those Neve’s in the 500 series for the drums and then just re-printing the rest of the tracks like you did. Sounds like it might be a way to save a few bucks and have a cool hybrid recording/mixing process!

    • @mrmozez1500
      @mrmozez1500 2 роки тому

      @@HomeRecordingMadeEasy I know this is an older post, but I'm wondering will I need a dual channel 73 to achieve what you've done here? Do I need something like the (Warm Audio WA273-EQ 2-channel Microphone Preamp & EQ) or can I get by with a single channel unit? Anyone free to answer my inquiry? Appreciate it!

  • @riktascale4
    @riktascale4 3 роки тому

    Yes it did come across.The hardware sounded more "alive and kicking".
    This is something l am indeed looking at this to add. Looking at the Cranborne ADAT

  • @douggroulx1525
    @douggroulx1525 4 роки тому +1

    Great video very educational thank you.
    So in my opinion the hardware does sound more open and it does sound better to Me. I don't know why it just has that certain mojo, and I am sorry I can't articulate that any better.
    Love your channel always have.

  • @jannpann4332
    @jannpann4332 2 місяці тому

    So if you have a VST synth, you can send it to the mic preamp and get it back enriched by the transformer in the 1073?

  • @jonathanstanley9070
    @jonathanstanley9070 4 роки тому

    Awesome video great job

  • @virgillray9570
    @virgillray9570 4 роки тому

    listening on Yamaha HS8s with Sonarworks running for a pretty flat room response and.... THE DIFFERENCE IS HUGE! The hardware print was louder, warmer, more crisp and open high end and made it feel like they were recorded in a big room with perfect acoustics

  • @alchemydrive
    @alchemydrive 4 роки тому

    Wonderful! Sounded better with the 1073 pre! You can kind of fake those results with plugins (tape, compressor) but why do the extra work when you can have mix ready tracks thanks to analogue tracking :)

  • @braxal6983
    @braxal6983 Рік тому

    Dave do you think running a pair mic preamps on your mix bus is a good idea? I am curious if you have change your position. I am thinking about doing this and wanted your opinion

  • @pedroparussolo9723
    @pedroparussolo9723 2 роки тому

    I wonder if running the master output to a pair of this neve preamps would have the same effect than run each track at the time. That would be much faster

  • @laestancia6219
    @laestancia6219 4 роки тому

    I'm listening trough my cell phone speaker. HW tracks seem already mixed. I will listen in my studio. But right now I listen a huge difference even in my phone

    • @laestancia6219
      @laestancia6219 4 роки тому

      On my headphones the HW Neve tracks seem brighter and kind of less transients beeing captured. Which is great. They feel a bit naturally compressed. Maybe the transformers do that. I could say the preamp tracks would be easier and faster to mix. Great video!

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  4 роки тому

      Thanks for watching

  • @Espresso101
    @Espresso101 4 роки тому +1

    The difference is very apparent, even on cellphone speakers. Only slight flaw in your test is your raw tracks themselves since these are tracks already recorded with (I'm assuming) a lower qaulity preamp, maybe stock preamp on a interface. Which is an already limited audio source. If you really want to hear what they do, use a Y split cable so you can split the microphone signal, one to a stock preamp on the interface, and the other to the Neve preamp going into the line input of your interface. Do that on multiple sources and you should see an even bigger difference.

  • @paulallen6849
    @paulallen6849 4 роки тому

    The difference was clear on youtube. Interesting test. Makes me want to try this with my Rupert Neve 5012 with silk engaged. What do you think? I also wonder what the difference would be with the UAD Neves? Thanks

    • @paulallen6849
      @paulallen6849 4 роки тому +1

      Also been trying this type of thing with the SSL fusion, using the vintage drivevand engaging the transformers. The fusion has many applications beyond the mixbus.

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  4 роки тому

      Go for it!

  • @PurpleMusicProductions
    @PurpleMusicProductions 3 роки тому +1

    The hardware by all comparison was far better. The kick became more pronounced, rounder and fuller. The vocals and guitar were made smooth and the bass played nicer with the drums. The entire mix became bigger and more enveloped. I am learning to hybrid mix as well so I will be on this journey with you.
    What you just witnessed is why I roll my eyes at all of the big name engineers that claim they are completely in the box yet hardware or racks full of gear in the background. What they also do not tell you is they may stay in the box, but the tracks came from the studio "outside of the box" and have already been printed so they are mainly leveling and tweaking. To tell us otherwise would put the software companies out of business. Sorry for the rant lololol
    How do you like the 1073 with the inducer eq alongside it?

  • @mixedbypricha7327
    @mixedbypricha7327 4 роки тому

    This is very dope. Thanks for the video. Whats DAC are you using?

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  4 роки тому

      Universal Audio Apollo x6

    • @mixedbypricha7327
      @mixedbypricha7327 4 роки тому

      Home Recording Made Easy dope. And when you ran your levels did you target any sweet spot like -18dbfs or did you go much hotter because you were going line in as opposed to mix in?

  • @chandlerveasey4259
    @chandlerveasey4259 3 роки тому +1

    I love this video so much I bought a Neve 500 series and am printing through like you are. question do you have a work around if you wanna send a stereo track through it or do you have 2 units?

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  3 роки тому

      I dont. I actually dont do this anymore as it takes far too long.

    • @30killabeatz
      @30killabeatz 3 роки тому +1

      You would have to record the left and right output separately and aftering hearing the sound quality i hear a huge differece !

    • @MS-vy8ks
      @MS-vy8ks 2 роки тому +1

      @@HomeRecordingMadeEasy thanks for doing this video,.... does your answer to Chandler here mean you don't re-record your raw tracks through the line input on your Neve pre anymore to add the hardware depth/sonics? if so, what do you do now when the hardware seemed so much better in this comparison video ? thanks!

    • @georgeconte5607
      @georgeconte5607 2 роки тому

      Dave bought the SSL Origin console in 2021 and uses that instead.

  • @johnsommarstrom3756
    @johnsommarstrom3756 4 роки тому +1

    Plenty more saturation with the hardware 😍

  • @DarrinNoNAME
    @DarrinNoNAME 3 роки тому

    Wow.. Insane of a difference....what are you recording through initially? What audio interface are you using.

  • @vivianpaton5408
    @vivianpaton5408 2 роки тому

    Would be interesting to chain 2-3 of the slate 73s in a row to see if that got closer.

  • @mehlek23
    @mehlek23 Рік тому

    How do you connect the neve preamp to the interface to be used as an insert?

  • @BoboRenthlei
    @BoboRenthlei 4 роки тому

    I think the slate 1073 has a alot of mud while the hardware 1073 sound open and a bit brighter in a good way imo.

  • @gmreynoldsjr
    @gmreynoldsjr 3 роки тому

    In your opinion, which is the bigger difference-maker: 1073 on each track or the 542 on the master?

  • @mixedbydense
    @mixedbydense 4 роки тому

    Hello , i hope you are staying safe 😀 can you just share your studio one pref. preset ? i liked your customizations and colors . thank you have a nice day

  • @manos6426
    @manos6426 3 роки тому

    Hello there, I liked the video. I think the hardware 1073 made the mid mid - high more alive.
    Did you do any experiments with the 542's Tape emulators at the master Buss?
    I'd like to hear your opinion about them.
    Thanks again, keep up the good work.

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  3 роки тому +2

      Yes I have. They are really amazing. I highly recommend them

    • @manos6426
      @manos6426 3 роки тому

      @@HomeRecordingMadeEasy Thank you.

  • @step62
    @step62 2 роки тому

    Nice content ! +1Sub ! I receive mine this week. But how can you pass your stereo mix inside 1 preamp ?

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  2 роки тому

      You can't. You need to of these units for stereo

    • @step62
      @step62 2 роки тому

      @@HomeRecordingMadeEasy ok cuz we only see one Neve in the video

  • @julioclaudio8714
    @julioclaudio8714 4 роки тому

    Hardware definitely more open separated dimensional .i have hardware eqs and pres api , capi , and neve plus the tape emulators and summing mixer love this setup on live instruments great video comparison

  • @KeyzConClase
    @KeyzConClase 4 роки тому

    Great Video, I have ordered a set of neve hardware, Its clear you get a better sound right away, not that you cant get similar results with plugins, however you have to go spend a lot more time mixing and testing. I noticed you only have one preamp, are you able to get away with it into a stereo channel?

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  4 роки тому

      did you use my Sweetwater link in the description? Thanks for watching

  • @AmarokOfficial
    @AmarokOfficial 2 роки тому

    Did you use only one mono 1073LB ?

  • @preciseaudioblog
    @preciseaudioblog 3 роки тому

    What a great vid! Than you! Question here... how did you record the raw tracks? I mean... they had to get into the daw through a pre right?

  • @nocuelatio9798
    @nocuelatio9798 Рік тому

    The difference was so big that i did wanted to do the same test running audio thru my 1073 SPX and i don't see that difference, why? is the 500 series better?

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  Рік тому

      Thanks for watching

    • @nocuelatio9798
      @nocuelatio9798 Рік тому

      bro? you think is much difference between apollo twin x and apollo X6 when comes to using analog gear? maybe thats the reason?@@HomeRecordingMadeEasy

  • @codycreepcore
    @codycreepcore 4 роки тому

    Yes, alot more open and a bit more wide, but everything seems brighter to me (maybe because of extra saturation).

  • @geevee7823
    @geevee7823 2 роки тому

    So much more definition with the hardware Neve.

  • @1erwayne
    @1erwayne 4 роки тому

    More and more people are going totally itb. To each their own but for me, I'm very hybrid. Lots of hardware eq's, pre's, compressors. Not cause I want to spend the money but the issues I have itb are solved by adding hardware.
    Anyway, clear difference what the Neve added to the sound. Once you get to the point you have enough analog to tweak the sounds in context, there will be a bigger difference. Maybe some sounds you were a little conservative with the neve and could have added more grit to make it speak in the mix a little more. You won't know that until you have faders up and are mixing in context.
    Good Video.

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  4 роки тому

      There is no right or wrong here and I always hesitate to say that one is so much "better" because people get all pissed off.....LOL For me, I am enjoying experimenting with hardware and I am only going to keep and purchase pieces that can do things that my current plugins cant do.

  • @anthemmakersmusic
    @anthemmakersmusic 4 роки тому

    But at this point the left or your hybrid flow gets it done quicker
    Right?

  • @tonyalbertson8379
    @tonyalbertson8379 4 роки тому

    Why didn’t you use the UAD 1073?

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  4 роки тому

      Because most people dont have that they use the Slate stuff. The result would be similar

  • @TheCUBICLESTUDIO
    @TheCUBICLESTUDIO 4 роки тому

    Neve sounds deeper. Which input you run? Mic in or line in?

  • @kankantandikaigorotan1496
    @kankantandikaigorotan1496 3 роки тому

    nice one

  • @maddogtungate6740
    @maddogtungate6740 4 роки тому

    A good bit of difference between the 2. The Neve sounds much better. Even through UA-cam.

  • @paultp12cora24
    @paultp12cora24 4 роки тому

    Sounds Much Better On the Neve Mix

    • @HomeRecordingMadeEasy
      @HomeRecordingMadeEasy  4 роки тому

      Thank you so much for watching! I really appreciate your support! Be sure to check out my website for even more training. Also, a brand new home recording podcast is available
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  • @BrewerShettles
    @BrewerShettles 2 роки тому

    Simple - More Presence with the hardware!!

  • @preciseaudioblog
    @preciseaudioblog 2 роки тому

    I feel the Neve tracks have more “weight”... Anyone?

  • @anthemmakersmusic
    @anthemmakersmusic 4 роки тому +2

    I know for a fact that the tracks on the left can me made to sound like those on the right.
    Besides I hear you do it on other video's. I think it's just more immediate getting there using the hardware.

  • @FrontCoverBand
    @FrontCoverBand 7 місяців тому

    More punch and snap going through the Neve.

  • @lukedavis2889
    @lukedavis2889 4 роки тому

    You can really hear it on the snare

  • @alejandroestrella69
    @alejandroestrella69 3 роки тому

    You can even tell the difference with crappy iPhone speakers. Through the Neve, suddenly the snare and bass drum jump from the mix and there is saturation in the high frequencies. Will listen to it through monitors. Impressive. Plugins cannot touch it.

  • @metatron333ascension
    @metatron333ascension 2 роки тому

    analogue made a big difference

  • @PatFleck
    @PatFleck 4 роки тому +1

    I can definitely hear a difference between the raw and the Neve on my KRK 5's. Not so much with the plugin. And not a massive difference between the plugins and the Neve.

  • @richiefamus8778
    @richiefamus8778 4 роки тому

    Much more weight on the hardware tracks. Software was thin in comparison.

  • @anthemmakersmusic
    @anthemmakersmusic 4 роки тому

    And nothing clipped so the hybrid helps get there easier. It's more expensive, so the only way to do it on the cheap is STUDY!

  • @anthemmakersmusic
    @anthemmakersmusic 4 роки тому

    You will see those tracks on the left catch up on the mastering side even in plug ins.

  • @brettcooney7958
    @brettcooney7958 2 роки тому

    thanks a lot, now i have to find 5k 😂

  • @michaeldavis9196
    @michaeldavis9196 4 роки тому

    True open and drums are punchy

  • @michaeldavis9196
    @michaeldavis9196 4 роки тому

    Hardware Sounds more open and punchier

  • @backspin6698
    @backspin6698 4 роки тому

    Yep, big difference. For $3000 it should be.

  • @texasbound7089
    @texasbound7089 3 роки тому

    Hardware > Software

  • @theant8855
    @theant8855 4 роки тому

    why ? I like slate much more

  • @maddogtungate6740
    @maddogtungate6740 4 роки тому

    Not so much on the 1073

  • @anthemmakersmusic
    @anthemmakersmusic 4 роки тому

    The left was clear louder puncher. More in your face.