Just to be clear, this is not a critique of the 60th Anniversary's Content or Quality- simply the decision to reset to Season 1 and Disney's involvement.
I feel that alot of decisions RTD has made since returning have been largely unnecessary. The disney deal, davros change, bigeneration and the rebrand to name a few.
I really don't think Disney is owning Doctor Who as much as some people think. They're a distributor and not the production company nor even the main distributor - that's BBC1. The Davros change was dumb - but Disney does not have super duper creative control - it's not like Star Wars where they straight up bought it. The situation with the snowman part was a note that RTD accepted, and notes are common for practically all distributer screenings. The prolouge scene in LOTR wouldn't have been there if lot for a note.
@@Simlan12345 I'm mostly wanting to give RTD an out because the change is so stupid and out of character for him. Other than that I agree- to an extent. I would rather Disney had NO power over the show whatsoever. Their funding is not necessary, we do not bargain with devils
See the principal of resetting the numbering idm in general. My friend once made a suggestion of how to categories it and such. But there’s a fundamental reason why this doesn’t work for me… The show really doesn’t feel like it’s made that big of a shift. If anything it’s gone more backwards than it ever has. No original logo, the title sequence is pretty standard for who, the same composer, same writer, same production team. Nothings actually hit a reset button and the tone and feel of the show doesn’t actually feel far off from what it was. Compare that to the shift from Season 26 and Series 1. There’s a clear shift in vision and outlook on the show. I think even RTD has gone slightly more traditional since his first era. Idk, I think the show should only ever reset when the creative vision behind it dictates that it should.
I 100% agree on every point. "Don't hold onto the past" is something I've heard being said but as you say we have an old actor to play the Doctor having returned, the old showrunner and production team returning and even an old logo coming back. If the show actually committed to a reset and felt different then I would not only "not mind" but I would celebrate it. As I say in the video, the idea of a seasonal reset has been something that's gone over all our minds before but if you're doing it just for the sake of doing it, I'd rather we just kept on building on what we had before.
I really think it was dumb that the 60th specials weren’t at the end of NuWho. New fans who will go straight for the new series will have a confusing bunch of episodes to say the least which are very referential to the past. They should have started with Ruby Road and just called it episode 1 🙄
The 60th isn't a part of the upcoming season 1 though, meaning new fans probably won't watch them, so this isn't really an issue. None of the specials were funded by Disney, they were just hosted on their service, so the specials are basically meant to be a goodbye to the old NuWho whilst setting up Ncuti's Doctor in the 4th special to give old fans an idea of if they want to keep watching or not. In other words, Church of Ruby Road was less a intro for new fans and more a litmus test for old fans. I'm certain that the first episode of season 1, which hasn't aired yet, will act as another reintroduction because that's when the reboot starts proper.
If Davies and the BBC really wanted to relaunch the show, then they should have actually planned it out. Make Gatwa’s Era the final act of the Revival, let audiences know the Doctor will return, and then spend the next 3-5 years planning for the show to come back in a way that really shakes up the format. This Rebrand is basically just New Who: Part 2 instead of the next step in the show’s evolution.
The rebrand/reboot to “Season 1” is as a result of Disney+ handling the streaming outside of the UK, no more, no less. Prior to the Disney merger there was no talk of a reset and fans were also assured that, once allied to the ‘House of Mouse’, there would be no influence or interference - something that was trashed once it became known that Disney had a test screening of “…Ruby Road” and insisted that the scene of Ncuti Gatwa with the falling snowman was filmed and inserted (originally this scene didn’t exist). And so it is that, for all that RTD is back and it’s still a BBC show, effectively Disney (and Disney’s cash) is “calling the shots”.
A fair and true assessment. I must confess, as a fan I feel a little betrayed and also embarrassed considering I oh-so-confidently claimed Disney would have little to no interference. Hopefully the corporate influence can be kicked to the curb as soon as possible and become a distant memory
Another good video. The only thing I really take issue with is the implication that the showrunner has much control over the episode count. I believe that has much more to do with the show's budget, so the choice is between longer gaps between seasons, fewer episodes per season, or cutting the special effects and filming time. And if Russell ditches Disney, he'd have to find a replacement cosponsor, or the show would suffer cuts in at least 2 out of 3 of those things.
@@badwolf69420 A lot of shows right now are doing 1 20 minute episode a week and for me that would be my ideal with Doctor Who but I 100% understand some people preferring 2 and I would really enjoy that too.
On the Daleks vs. Cybermen front, while I always felt like the Cybermen were underused as a kid, I still would count myself a Dalek fan. Which is why it is so weird to me that Cybermen seem to have wormed their way so deep into my psyche. No hyperbole, I have dreams about Cybermen at least once a month, while I could count on one hand the number of times a Dalek has shown up in one of my dreams in my whole life.
I kinda hate Russell purely because i spoke up about his Tales of the Tardis not being available. I think he thought i was joking because he hearted me first but then someone responded and i gave my response and then he blocked me:( Also, yeah, i have screenshots if anyone thinks im lying 😅
@@brewster_4 I looked at the screenshots and I slightly misremembered- Someone was complaining about TOTT not being available worldwide and someone told them to: "just be grateful." So I responded: "Just be grateful?" This is the comment Russell hearted for some reason. The guy then responded and basically said: "Yeah. Do you pay the license fee? No. We do. Don't expect something you're not paying for." And then I responded with: "But if I could pay for it, I would. Its not like I'm expecting it for free. I'm just expecting it as an option at all. I think it's kind of rude to tell people to: "just be grateful" while you rub what they don't have in their face." And then Russell blocked me.
@@carealoo744 weird, idk if could be a misunderstanding, and I recall maybe seeing that conversation, and your stance is the more logical and correct one, like I would pay to see the same stuff they can see on iplayer in the uk, if I could.
@@The_Nordic_Doctor If I can make an assumption on Russell's stance- And being blocked by him doesn't leave me much choice- I imagine Russell was purely acting out of a reaction to exhaustion. I saw an interview with him behind the scenes where he said: "I mean who doesn't love Christmas? And if you don't, I don't got time for you." Which is a rather out of place comment and seems to show how he's feeling- I imagine having to run this show, trying to be so ahead of the Game, trying to please everyone, write scripts, make sure everything behind the scenes is going smoothly, making sure the actors and directors and all the people working on the show are having their needs met- Not to mention anything and everything going on in his personal life, on top of dealing with Disney and trying to make sure every decision he makes is one that will hold up to an audience that won't see the Episode for 2 Years- I imagine all of that can put a lot of stress on his psyche- And apparently Tales of the TARDIS was something he made super last minute because he was worried he didn't do enough to celebrate the 60th Anniversary. So he writes a script, hires other writers, makes sure the actors are available, gets the set, films basically a short movie (if you put all 6 parts together) and gets it out to the public- Puts in all that hard work and then gets bombarded with messages on social media that it sucks because it's not available worldwide. I imagine I wasn't the only one commenting that at the time, and he probably took one look at my comment and said: "I just can't." Poor dude:(
@@carealoo744 Either there is a Disney intern using his Twitter account, or RTD has had a stroke. No need to make excuses for his attitude on social media. He's burying his own era.
The season 1 rebrand is honestly so bad it doesn’t make any sense at all and the only reason why they did it is because Disney wanted it easier for newer viewers its so completely unneeded theres like 4 different jumping on points in new who I feel like disney has just made watching doctor who more complicated when they were trying to make it more simple
This is literally what they did with DC comics in like 2011. They rebooted it, but not really so enough changed (along with the legacy numbers getting rest) and everyone one that was a long time fan was PISSED! They’d eventually rest things back to normal(sorta) and they did waaaaaaay better(…. Till the screwed that up.)
Brilliant video, really great, well thought out points. It's of note that the classic series shorts are being rested. The timing, after so many youtube videos have pointed out how much popular the shorts are to the thing on TV now being called Doctor Who, is astonishing. Someone doesn't like the fact the classic show is clearly more widely appreciated than current 'Doctor Who'. All academic now, current 'Doctor Who' is dead and beyond saving. It will surely be cancelled after 2025 plays out and then it needs to be left alone. Maybe in 5 to 10 years someone can have a go at reviving it, but right here and now it is dead and I say that as a fan of 36 years. Anyway, great video.
The mouse can go get stomped on by the Myrka. But man, i'm gonna watch all new Doctor Who content until i'm dead. Once you've seen the Twin Dilemma, anything else is at least watchable.
You know I always found RTD to be very overrated, not that he's not good or doesn't deserve praise but people act like everything he does is perfect. And with the decisions he's made, Disney influence or not, this has just been further cemented for me. I am glad to see more people call him out though!
My unpopular opinion isn't that he's overrated necessarily but that the standards for him are wayyy lower for some reason. If Chris Chibnall or even Steven Mofffat did half the things he'd done they would've been crucified at this point.
Regardless of how many 'reboots' of Doctor Who there are, it's always tied back to lore; so there's little point in rebooting/resetting it for the billionth time ESPECIALLY when arcs of previous series lead directly into each other. The re/brand/boot/set is silly and obviously 'Season 1' is Series 14.
I can see why they would call it Season 1 - for new whovians so they don't get overwhelmed but i would say 100% of the community would call it series 14 or in extreme cases, season 40
i have been watching doctor who for my entire life and it just gets to a point where i don't let bad writing ruin it because in my opnion as a fan, it is one of the most poorly written shows in the history of television. it's campy, pointless and weird and so it's hard for me to put it any higher than any other sci-fi production. i love the show to bits, i just know its crap too.
I don't think it's poorly always been poorly written. I think we've been really lucky to have acclaimed writers like RTD and Steven Moffat. I get what you're saying about not taking it seriously, but I think especially with the revival, the writing, barring a few series has been really good. Whether it's plot for Moffat or character or character for RTD, it's been solid. I don't think most of us would be into it if the characters and stories were rubbish. It being fun helps ofc.
@@jimii.doctor It being fun and campy and not a work of high-fiction is the reason why it's good. Even in the serious moments, it can be goofy. And that's charming. Like, I don't care if the writing is bad or acting's a bit silly or the plot's themes are hand over fist... It's just charming as it's honest. And that's what I see in all Doctor Who. Even Jodi. It being silly or dumb is why I like it. Something being poorly written doesn't mean it's rubbish. It can be entertainingly campy.
My main take away was why wasCripy Pro in Wandavision? Judge Dredd is a great example of the benefits of not rebooting. 45 years of a continous continuity. Totally agree the 45 minute format has hamstrung the series from Eccleston onwards, but I cant see it changing. The best they could do is make the majority of stories 2 parters
I think you're slightly overstating Disney's influence a little bit. Disney can give notes but that's it, and thus far their notes have been positive: for example originally Ncuti's Doctor was in his first episode LESS than what we ended up getting, which Disney noted to RTD that they feel the Doctor should be in it more so he wrote a new scene to insert into the episode heavily featuring Ncuti. And notes being given isn't new, the BBC would do the same thing in the past, it's part of the process really. And RTD has said that the british-ness of Doctor Who will not be changed, it will remain as quintessentially British and Doctor Who as it has always been.
I'd love to hear your opinions on Spider-Man and I completely understand the point about comics and reboots in comparison to what they're doing in New Who. It happens with some series as well, where they keep the creative teams and just jump it back to a #1 issue after a year, just to try and boost the dwindling sales. Obviously, RTD wants to do the same wirh Doctor Who, but unlike with comics, we don't have any big starting points. Ncuti's whole backstory is mired in 13 and 14's history and I don't think eight episodes is enough to properly explore both he and Ruby's characters in an effective manner. I think one good comparison is with Superior Spider-Man. The Superior story was built off around five years of history prior to it, and One More day was based off decades of history before the soft reboot of Spider-Man, kinda like the break between Old and New Who, making Superior Newer Who. It is really silly to break with the series numbering for an arbitrary reason, because you can't get into Ncuti without having an awareness of what came before.
Doctor who isn't really being rebooted again it's just a number reset for Disney plus internally they still refer to the new seasons as 14 and 15 it likely won't be referred to as season 1 in the UK it's a reboot in name only and is only season one internationally So far Disney have only interfered once and it was only a note that rustle could have chosen to ignore it but it ended up being one of my favourite scenes in the Christmas specials
Honestly, I don't see a point in discussing the "reboot" of the show. Technically it meets the definition. However after Steven Moffat took over and after that Chris Chibnall, those also felt like reboots especially by a regular non Doctor who standard. Now we have another shift with showrunners and on top of that disney plus integration. Debating things like the change of the branding and other superficial things does not seems relevant considering changes in cast, look, sets, etc.are part for the course for this show. Maybe I got that wrong, but you seemed to have a big issue with restarting the numbering of the show. I really don't understand why that should be a problem or seem like too big an interference. The reasoning seems quite simple. Disney plus does not have and for the foreseeable future will not have the rights to any episodes prior to the Star Beast. If they want to promote the show for new audiences, it is hard to do, when the only content you have to start off is series 14. From a viewer perspective, you would not be interested in the show which starts with series 14 with no way of seeing series 1. I really don't think there was much else at play.
9:15 I agree with most of what you said but tbf the new seasons trailer can be seen on the Doctor Who UA-cam channel, the BBC UA-cam channel and just in adverts but the season 15 would only really get the big attraction on the Doctor Who UA-cam channel
I actually dont think this is a bad counterpoint- the trailer was uploaded on multiple channels and will be shown on Televisions. Overall more people will see it. But my point isnt really about that- Its more to highlight that the demand for Modern Who-centric content far outweighs the demand for a reboot. The trailers for the 60th Anniversary also did better than the one for Season 1 and those too were uploaded to multiple channels. Again though, I don't think anything you said is remotely wrong whatsoever
cl i did not expect the one piece jump scare but it was welcome. If dwfan91 was to make a one piece channel or something cus i like ur yappin and id like to hear a 4 hour nonsensical yap session on one piece
The season 15 trailer got more views because it was only accessible on UA-cam, whilst the new Season 1 trailer was watched by most after the Xmas special aired, and then was uploaded to every single social media platform, so thats why the UA-cam upload didnt get loads of views. The season 15 trailer was an anomaly compared to the usual upload on the official UA-cam channel, which garnered attention due to popular iconography in the thumbnail and title (daleks, timelords, gallifrey), which is undeniable when compared to the views on other season collection trailers. Also I'm not too happy with the rebrand myself, but it makes sense as long as RTD brings in new concepts and villains, and retires Daleks, Cybermen and the Master for a few good years.
12:10 As someone who really just started to get into the classic series last year (watched all the Hartnell episodes and I'm currently in the middle of the Troughton era), I would like to try making my own show or webseries that's a throwback/homage to sci-fi serials like Doctor Who, or even Flash Gordon. I can't really think of a lot of shows nowadays that are less than 45 minutes, other than maybe animated shows and sitcoms. It would be interesting if they went back to to the classic 20 minute serial format, but I don't think it's likely to happen.
Sadly, they have chosen against it. I understand why in 2005 the decision was made to switch to 45 minute episodes and why for all of the years since its remained at that length (more or less) but with the opportunity provided for them with this second reboot, I just find it baffling that they would decide against it. No one in their right mind would take eight 45 minute episodes over eighteen 20 minute episodes.
I don't see what is the issue here. Like for us hardcore whovians it doesn't matter whether we watch season 40 series 14 or season 1 We just want new Doctor Who content. This change is superficial it won't affect quality of the incoming stories. And it can be helpful for those who are joining on Disney+ so they don't have to be confused where are previous 13 series
It’s a funny one because the 60th anniversary specials are an end and a beginning End of 2005 Who which is fine, ties everything up but having Ncuti there means it’s the beginning of this new era, with Rose and Mel and Unit all in series 1, people need to watch The Giggle so they understand but you also need to watch Wild Blue Yonder but you also then need to watch The Star Beast It’s a bridge There really wasn’t a need to change it back to series 1 but I can see why they did it, Disney only having 2023 and after would look weird being numbered as series 14 and in England you couldn’t carry on and call it series 14 because it might get confusing if the same show is labeled as Doctor Who series 14/Season 1 It’s barely a reboot, if it was series 14 then it would only be considered a soft reboot, like series 5 and 11 but because it’s series 1, everyone is scared They were rumours series 11 was going to be called series 1, obviously that didn’t happen but if it had, it wouldn’t have made any difference, maybe look a tad better but thats literally it and it nature things will get look better, 2005 CGI and picture quality looks terrible in comparison to CGI and picture quality in 2010, and that looks bad compared to 2020 CGI and picture quality and it continues
I was actually going to mention this in my video- what would people's thoughts have been if Series 11 reset to Season 1. I personally think it would've been terrible
@@doctorwhoproductions834 Ironically 2017 would've been the perfect time period to have done a reset. If you look on UA-cam, interest in the show took a massive spike at around that time (although this was because it went to Netflix which is far bigger than Disney Plus.) And I actually don't mind Series 11 in fact I think a lot of the episodes in that series are pretty good. But it wouldn't have worked as a reset, not at all.
Yoir point is very muddled. You say that people dont want franchises, citing the MCUs recent failure as an example, but then say that audiences want something familiar and long running - which I'd say also describes the MCU fairly well. A big factor in The Marvels underperformance seems to be audience assumption that the Disney+ shows were homework to understand what happens (among other factors that a lot of content grifters are applying to Dr Who). Surely the same problem would be present if trying to sell the 14th season of a show. Season 1 feels like, from marketing so far, it's using the concept of jumping on points in the show and bringing them front and center to a new audience (the fact that the specials barely accommodate that audience notwithstanding, I say this with the assumption that S1x01 is going to be a perfect jumping on point for new viewers) Honestly, I'd personally do away with the numbering at this point and just go with subtitles like Flux did. As they're banking this in advance, they know how connected different seasons could be, so they could make sure Arcs full under the same banner, similar to what Big Finish do with their box sets. Call series 5-6 The Silence Arc Chapters One through Three and let the die hards argue over the numbers 😂
Sadly I think you misunderstand. The words I use is people "barely want franchises," which is true. A lot of people *say* they want something original but we all know that franchises do sell the best regardless of what people say. Whats important to note however is the fact that we've had so many big franchise movies (from DC to Marvel to even the 'Monsterverse' and the Sonyverse, Disney Animated Movies, Pixar etc) underperform- so much so to the point where it becomes clear you can't really get away with it as much anymore. On a different note- I agree that the subtitle approach would be far more appropriate, especially given the reduced episode count.
I can't believe this needs to be explained but I can guarantee the soft reboot is happening ENTIRELY due to the fandom's overall poor reception to the Chibnall era and the Timeless Child, specifically. People forget that for the past three series in a row the BBC was outright threatening cancellation. THAT'S why RTD has accepted the Disney funding. It's because the BBC has simultaneously cut funding to DW. Without this lifeline it's entirely likely the series wouldn't be getting a new "Season 1" at all right now.
I disagree. If that were true when why are we continuing the timeless child plotline? It was resolved at the end of Flux, there is no reason to pursue it outside of Russell T Davies wanting to. We all know by now that Doctor Who was in danger of being put on hiatus after Series 10 and after COVID and that Chris Chibnall saved the show twice, but I don't remember there being talks that the show was in trouble after S11.
@@dwfan91- I mean, it's not so much that they're shying away from that part of the storline as much as they just want an otherwise clean sweep from the entire production of Chibnall Who. That's the reason they made sure to ditch all the previous companions, didn't even have Jodie in the 60th, and have barely mentioned anything about the aftermath of the Flux. It seems that Timeless Child just happens to be one plot thread that RTD does like and apparently he plans to play around with it in the future. But even that's been heavily toned down.
@@video-luver769 It'd be pretty weird to bring Jodie back one episode after she left- Flux was name dropped 2 times in three episodes and the timeless child stuff has arguably been toned *up* I don't think theres any evidence that this is in response to "Chibnall Who," if anything their clear respect of the era that just came before is one of the positives. They've already acknowledged it far more than they needed to or I ever expected them to
This isn't true. Doctor Who contributed to the BBC making record profits in 2021. It was the second most streamed show on BBC Iplayer in 2022, and Doctor Who Flux toped the Official TV On Video Chart for three consecutive weeks in a row; it was in the top 10 for ten, and Jodie Whittaker nearly dethroned David in the 2020 Radio Times Top Doctor poll. Saying that the fandom had an overall poor reception of the Chibnall era and the Timeless Child doesn't make it true. It may have been divisive online, but most things are. Besides, if something is divisive, it means that there are people who don't like it, but it also means that there are those who do. As for the funding, it wasn't cut. Doctor Who has always had a comparatively low budget; nothing had changed.
The show faced the threat of cancellation every time a showrunner left. If you have something to say beyond “rip Doctor Who chinballs bad” then I’m struggling to find it
Exactly. They don't need to reset the counter; both series 5 and series 11 functioned as soft resets despite not being 'series 1'. This reeks of Disney not wanting to confuse people by having something on their service marked as 'series 14'.
Tbh, I think of this as more of a soft reboot. While Im currently enjoying the many adventures Big Finish have put out, I gotta admit it's been a hot while since I sat down and watched the revival era and just wanted to enjoy something without too much baggage, even if I enjoyed it up to this point.
how to fix dr who? put an appealing actor in the role that people want to see, good stories, classic bad guys. it's not that hard. the Xmas special was unwatchable trash and probably turned more people off the show.
Loki season one and two (payoff in two) is one of the best marvel stories ever. I enjoyed Wanda Vision. I’d say a small percentage of marvel tv is good but most is crap. Same with Star Wars…Mandolorian season 1 and 2 was great. After that the Disney formula killed it. Andor was great….but I fear for season 2. And Doctor Who does not feel like Doctor Who. Ncuti does not seem to be the Doctor to me. The stories are spotty…some enjoyable some not. But none feel like Doctor who. Almost. But not really. And the only thing I can see that is different is Disney.
Eh, Russel bringing David back is like resurrecting Romeo and Juliette; takes the punch out of the tragedy. His regeneration and Donna's Meta-crisis arcs are now pretty much worthless. And for what? 3 episodes? RTD lost his edge. Seems like a fantasy projection to blame Disney when Russel is literally writing his best work out of existence. I just hope he doesn't write #15 as "Doctor Weeaboo", but we all know Disney is where great I.P.'s go to die. =(
Not really keen on the Disney thing but i really believe that doctor who can be saved after the chibnall era. I might be wrong but I’d rather be delusional than realistic
@@dwfan91- I agree with this, since dr who can always survive even after death, irl the show, and in the show's universe too the dr can heh. if the show gets like reaally baad some time will pass and some fan will have grown up and could bring the show back in some form or another.
At last, people are about to stop calling my black arse a bigotic racist loudmouth just to call a straw cat a straw cat. This series has become a *mess.*
Disney is a corporation that I hate even before it started going shit I always hated it, I'd see something then I see Disney then I do not watch it, doctor who is special though but if this quality keeps up, I'd still watch it but enjoy it less and I think it would get cancelled pretty quickly
As a non-UK fan, canceling the Disney+ deal will be devastating for me. Finally after almost ten years there's a place I can watch new episodes in my country and I wouldn’t want to go back to how it was before. I don't believe Doctor Who will ever become like a Disney+ show, as it has the ability to tell more imaginative stories than any other intellectually bankrupt Disney franchise. I think that the season one reset is unnecessary and I would want future series to have more than 8 episodes, but other than that I believe in the future of the show, even on Disney+.
Idk mate sure I would like it to say series 14 to but I have seen a lot of people who I know have never cared about doctor who in years don’t do again and my younger cousins and there friends are into doctor who now after the Christmas special that’s how you make new fans I do think it’s needed after the chibnial era where they would not get out of the lore box that’s good every once and awhile but when you base an entire story arc on it it just gets messy and makes the show impossibly to follow without 60 years wroth of this show to follow so I do think a general reset would do this show wonders cause chibnals era was very stuck in the past trying to be Russell era but I’m really hoping Russell himself wants to try something different and get new people into cause it gets daunting to try a new show 14 seasons I think that’s something we forget as long time fans
My only problem with your reasoning is that just because you say something is a series 1 doesn't necessarily mean it is one. Those 13 series do still exist, the show is still directly following on from them and actual new viewers will be completely lost as to what is happening. There are times when its good to fall back on legacy and times when its good to stand on your own two feet and I think right now, resetting to Series 1 is just about the worst decision they could've made
@@purefoldnz3070 I agree. Partly why I'm disappointed with this one- all bark but no bite. Speak of change and yet all I see is reversion, even the logo reverted back and yet they're saying its Season 1. If it *was* an actual reboot I'd be all in but its very clear someone (cough cough) forced their hand
What choice did they have. disney didnt want classic or modern who and wanted a fresh clean slate to edge away the broading complexities of doctor who lore and create its own identity is that too much to ask?
Clinging onto the past after a literal nostalgia trip is childish and unnecessary we've literally gotten out fair share of nostalgia it's time for new content the new viewers will come internationally and Disney is there for that and if you want another nostalgia trip wait until 2033 and I'll be sure to wheel in Smith and tennant so you can lick their toes 😂
@@dwfan91- it's my opinion I feel we should ofc honour the past but also pave the way for the future as we're going to face tomorrow not yesterday and we have to adapt as fans of an ever changing show the changing of numbers or a soft reboot shouldn't cause you to whine unnecessarily it seriously makes me lose hope in the fandom not that you need any help with that right-wing rasists have already destroyed my perception. Aside that I feel strongly that it's nessacary for doctor who to utilise this leverage of platform I understand Disney isn't doing that well in terms of ratings on TV shows but the viewing figures that got leaked from 2022 Thailand (7.1M) for she-hulk say otherwise doctor who needs the views and adaptation in vital this is a step in the right direction there isn't a point in crying over spilt milk and season 1 is what it'll be known as universally I apologise for coming across as strange in the previous comment.
I just cannot see one person pulling up and being like ooooo new lovely jubly show called doctor who let’s give this a watch. And even if they did they are going to be instantly bamboozled by this fella being the FIFTEENTH doctor and what the fuck is a timeless child?!!!
The thing is, the 2023 specials never refer to Gatwa as the 15th Doctor, and never mention the Timeless Child. No one in 2005 were bamboozled by Christopher Eccleston being the 9th Doctor either
@@brewster_4 lol was kinda just joking. But still the 2005 reboot was actually made as a reboot. It was designed so you just jump on there. But this is essentially is just series 14, and it’s likely that all the recent events and continuity will continue to referred to. So the whole reboot is just silly. Don’t really know how this could attract new viewers.
@@ManiBatchelor But season 1 is being designed so viewers can jump on here too. The season hasn't even aired yet, so we don't know whether it will refer to recent events. I'm guessing it will connect back to the 60th through the characters of Kate, Mel, and Rose, but it wouldn't be that hard to reintroduce those character through the eyes of Ruby like how Rose met Sarah Jane in series 2. In terms of attracting new viewers, imagine they see this show on Disney+ called Doctor Who. They click on it, and the first thing they see is listed as series 14. Now probably two things will pop into their heads. 1. Where's series 1-13? 2. I have to watch 13 other series on a different streaming service just to watch this new Disney+ stuff Most people wouldn't decide to watch based on just these two things alone, but if it's listed as season 1 this will give new viewer the immediate impression that this is a start, and that no prior knowledge is need (like what Moffat did naming Series 10 Episode 1 the Pilot)
I don’t know if he can get away from Disney. I think the BBC sold Doctor Who to them because they foresee the corporation becoming sold off when the license fee runs out. Doctor Who sold to Disney in order to save it.
It's that UK (if not RoW) TV and movie writing is now so crap and formulaic that no one wants to watch them. You saw this start in the Smith era. Capaldi couldn't make it good consistently. Still think they should reboot to him and lose the following seasons.
Nothings really gonna change, we have RTD back, some of the same writers, some new ones, the formats gonna be the same, the Christmas specials are back, a fantastic looking new TARDIS, which I must admit had my daughter and myself cheering and going wow, Disney won’t be fundamentally changing things, just making it more accessible to more people and throwing some money at it to give it a more polished feel, all I’m saying is really is to give it a chance, I really don’t know how anyone can judge and condemn a show after the 60th anniversary trilogy, which I got for Christmas on Blu-ray, and the Christmas special. RTD brought the show back, us who are old enough remember it being taken off the air in 1989, and. I seriously hope that doesn’t happen again, it might though if you negative Nancy’s out there start hating on it again so soon after the Chibnell era, you may as well get yourselves a hammer and a bag of nails and start bashing them into Dr Who’s coffin lid now. Stop hating on it because they’ve reverted to season 1 again, it’s just a number, doesn’t mean they discount all that’s gone before, and stop hating on Disney, are the ones who are going to financially back the program and show it to a larger audience, I for one am really looking forward to the new season and I’m old school, I grew up with Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker, and personally I don’t think the show has diminished, there have been good and bad episodes in the new Who run, we had that back in the 70’s, didn’t mean it was all rubbish and was doomed to fail, it only failed first time around because of Michael Grade, who hated sci-fi in all its forms, he even tried to get it banned for good when RTD was trying to resurrect it; and you never know, there may be a Michael Grade type waiting in the wings to do it all over again, don’t give them any help in the matter.
I'm not hating. For the record, if I didn't make it clear in the video enough, I have nothing against the new era, Russell T Davies, Ncuti Gatwa or anyone. In fact I was very positive to all the episodes. I'm glad you and your daughter enjoyed the reveal of the new TARDIS interior, I similarly enjoyed it. My argument is simply that if we're reverting the logo, have old faces coming back constantly and are continuing on the plotlines of the previous series, why would we reset the numbering? I don't want Disney to get their paws on my favourite show in the world, simple as that
I think the writing of the specials was atrocious. Tennant shouldn’t have come back and the Bi-Generation was bloody awful. If they want to reboot it so that new fans can jump onboard then why have the Doctor angst ridden over the timeless child plot line? RTD should never have returned. An Unearthly Child was the perfect jumping on point. Rose was too silly a pilot but Christopher Eccleston held it all together and as soon as he left it all went downhill fast until RTD left. I agree with you about Disney. It’s sad that Doctor Who wasn’t kept British. RTD has lost his mind and become an egotistical delusional maniac.
@@friendlyotaku9525 No. the sexualisation of the Doctor started with the TV Movie (American BBC co-production. American side wanted the Doctor romantic) and was made worse under Tennant and RTD. For the first 7 Doctors that never happened. Whether it’s the influence of Universal or Disney or the Producer trying to create a more Hollywood version it all weakens the series.
@@friendlyotaku9525 He was very much the alien eccentric in Classic Who and it worked far better that way. Why drag the Doctor down to a human level? The companions are there for that.
tbf some numbers that haven't watched it on yt could've seen the trailer elsewhere like tv or then don't wanna get spoiled. also idk but maybe the right wing mob lies/twisted things/constant hate and propaganda vids could influence a tad bit? thankfully it aint a full reboot and it's the same continuity, that's the top priority and important thing, tho kind of annoying or like disappointing 15th's first series is gonna be an introduction way again and kind of written like that, I just would prefer good writing and stories, but disney probs demands the writing to be introducing a bit... oh and the people that have not seen dw before kind of influence that pressure to do that even unkowingly. btw I agree I want the disney influence to be minimal, and seeing the kind of part rise of prime with em gathering series, idk maybe some other place could or could've been in some aspects a better home, also I don't want the other shows on disney+ to influence dr who at all, rather I wanna see dr who being peak and tumbling/ making the other shows stumble because of how great dr who is being an outside standalone with upcoming spin offs I do hope they eventually add the rest (past) to disney+ and have 3 volumes, classic, revival(new who), new new who/vol III
I call out bad faith actors attacking the show for political reasons all the time- I'm not even criticising the quality of episodes. Again I want to reiterate, I like Russell T Davies and Ncuti Gatwa. I'm just calling a spade a spade. I don't like that Disney is involved and I want to speak out against it
@@dwfan91- yea I get that, heh oops if my stupid fast typing style made it seem that I was stamping you to be some stuff I mentioned or that I wouldn't have gotten your side/view correctly
RTD2 is what RTD1 would have been without Eccleston to push back against the hebephilia. Say what you will about Disney, but they learned a thing or two from _Hannah Montana._
Please show me those examples of hebephilia in RTD2 And please show me those examples of Eccleston ever talking about him pushing back against hebephilia
@@brewster_4 Thank you very much for asking me questions instead of jumping to conclusions as your fellow travelers have done. Alas, you only get half credit, as only one question is fair, so I am entitled to a smidgeon of contumely. I'll answer your second question and then the first. Then I'll give you some information on why this is particularly important to me and another chance to think about what I am saying and respond. This opportunity is only for you and not any idiot fellow travelers. First, the second question is in extremely bad faith, and I daresay you knew that when you asked it. Eccleston signed a contract with the BBC. As they all do, it contains a non-disclosure or do not discuss clause. If Eccleston were to talk about it, he could be held liable for all the money they paid him plus nine times that amount for punitive damages. He is not so stupid as to break that. His "sack Russel T. Davies" moment came close, but was legalistically worded so that he could defend himself against court action and probably win. I am certainly not going to endanger him by disclosing private information, because I respect him. Now for the first question. I am limiting my answer to text and paratext, things you can easily verify for yourself. I'm going to cover _Queer as Folk,_ the Eccleston year, and the four 60th specials or three 60th specials plus Christmas special or first episode, whatever, depending on whether we've always been at war with Eastasia or Eurasia this week. Note that _QaF_ and the reboot are not definitive or disposative; they just provide additional information consistent with the rest. I have only seen snippets of _QaF,_ so I can't give corroborating evidence others have told me about. But that was when Rose 0 was introduced. She was the _little red girl_ so sexy that a 100% gay man could go for. Now for Rose 1 in the Eccleston era. She was young enough to stay at home. Rose's mother flirted with him and then did the "you're what, 40?" thing, of course to remind us that The Doctor is way over 40. This resembles the mother/daughter sexual tension and competition common in dysfunctional families. I've seen people say that Rose should have been creeped out by when The Doctor took her hand. Then there's the "You need a Doctor" scene, which others complained was too sexual. Note that people objected to McGann's Doctor's kiss, which to me seemed natural, and Eccleston's was evidently steamier. This is not definitive precisely because Eccleston is such a good actor and was able to keep the nookie at bay with acting, as I mentioned in my OP. Now for "The Star Beast." Rose 2 is a _15-year-old kid._ That's too young to consent to sex or bottom surgery in the UK. She's played by Finney, who was 19 but may have been 18 at the time (I don't know) but clearly an adult. She's dolled up in a way that the cash-strapped Nobles would not have been able to afford for a shopping trip. The result is that she looks older. In more natural photos, she looks her age, which is still a bit of a stretch but might have been fixed with behavioral affectations of youth, which Finney did not use at all. We know how Donna uses the term _gorgeous_ because she applied it to her mostly virtual husband back in the Vashta Nerada days. It's clearly sexualizing, as it is in almost all instances. Even when applied to, say, artwork, it connotes a certain lush. We also know from the same days that she would be an excellent mother. Yet Donna and the rest of the family consistently calls Rose _gorgeous._ Not _pretty_ or even _cute,_ which would be age-appropriate, though the latter has sexual connotations for adults but none for children, and Rose 2 is between. Sylvia wonders if it's sexist to keep calling Rose 2 _gorgeous._ Of course it is. It's Gender Studies 101 that you don't repeatedly call attention to a teenage girl's looks because it makes her believe her sexual appeal is her only positive attribute and often leads to self-destructive behaviors such as bulemia and cutting. When we get the dead-naming scene, it looks and is intended to look like a bunch of kids hassling an adult. RTD also did a publicity photo shoot with Finney dolled up as Rose 2 carrying a shopping bag with a smiley face with hearts for eyes. Perhaps actual Kubrick _Lolita_ glasses would lack subtlety. I won't say much about _Wild Blue Yonder,_ because the problem with that is mostly racism. Now for _The Giggle._ The Toymaker establishes that _little red girl all grown up_ Donna always had the balls in the relationship. At the end, Tennant's Doctor is put to pasture as bottom to Donna's top. Now for _The Church on Ruby Road._ Reportedly, the nightclub scene was a long-time fantasy by RTD. Consider a new viewer, who has no idea who The Doctor is, seeing that for the first time. 31-year-old Gatwa has been stalking Ruby, a 19-year-old Ruby, another _little red girl._ He uses an admittedly clever alcohol-based pick-up line on Ruby, and it isn't long before she is jumping in his arms. The United States, where Disney is located, has a federal minimum drinking age of 21. It is not _crazy_ so say that the falling snowman scene, establishing that The Doctor is a good guy on the side of The Law, shifts away enough cringe to be palatable. We also have the fact of a stated subplot where Gatwa's Doctor was going to _plook_ Ruby's boyfriend or at least try. Not only is this kinda sus, but it would have taken a great deal more setup than the remnant of Ruby's character will be allowed, belying the idea that Ruby was planned only to appear a few times in the first season. Once again, it is not _crazy_ to suggest that only strangulation of the purse strings by Disney could have made such a change. There's more, but I'll stop here, because that is enough. As Haruki Murakami said, if you can't understand it without an explanation, you can't understand it with an explanation. Now, it would be preternaturally stupid to try to argue with me, by saying that isn't *real* hebephilia or I'm overreacting or overthinking or it's just a teevee show or kids wouldn't notice or whatever. For one thing, you haven't asked what my opinions on those statements are, which is good, because neither yours or mine are relevant in the slightest. What *is* relevant is that RTD has tied up with a pretty red ribbon a thermonuclear device for the Right to use to genocide LGBTQ+ people. After RTD put all this up on the screen, it will never again be possible to counter the Right's claims associating LGBTQ+ with grooming. Part of the reason that _QaF_ and the reboot are not determinative is that both are considered adult shows in the United States. Yet RTD has specifically stated that the 60th onward is explicitly for sending messages to kids. When the Right wants to say, "they're coming for your kids," all they'll have to do is point. No claims that they are making it up will work. Neither I nor anybody will be able to point to any LGBTQ+ influencers and presenters who are pushing back on this transphobia and homophobia, *because there evidently aren't any.* This is a misstep greater than Oscar Wilde turning a losing defamation lawsuit into pontification over The Love that Dare Not Speak Its Name. The Right is retarded, but if you do not think they will get around to it, consider this. They are already showing _Kill the Moon_ in churches to put across their pro-death anti-abortion policies, and that is typically the only episode their flock ever sees. Now here's why I care so much. Though you lot all seem to be picking your noses over this, *I personally do not want to accelerate the genocide.* I particularly do not want to give the right free ammunition. This is why I pay attention to messages you lot simply cannot be arsed to think about at all. I have a particular stake in the matter because *I am a casualty in the genocide.* This is why I am Dead Man. If you look at the top, you will see a little circle next to my name. It contains an image of the *written death threat* issued to me about halfway into being physically tortured by being prevented from sleeping for more than three weeks into pleading guilty to doing something which I did but which was *not against the law.* Please do not bother telling me that you cannot believe this based on your experience with sleep deprivation. You have already demonstrated your brain isn't all that, though it is evidently better than your fellow travelers, which is why this message is for you. I'm sure it's too long for them to read anyway. I've learned from Robert Sapolsky that neurogenesis happens in the hippocampus, but it still took a year for mine to grow back to a level of basic competence. I published a book with my writings during that time partially to demonstrate how brain damage affected me. I'm writing another book nobody will read which will go with my channel nobody watches, but I have no idea how I'm going to pay to print it. I do have a small pension from my stint as a university professor, but I only have $201 after monthly rent, and getting a supplementary income as a convicted felon on the registry is not as easy as you may assume. If you click on that and get some information from my videos and think a bit about what I have clearly and truthfully said, then I will be willing to continue the conversation. If that's just too much for you, and you continue to insist on believing the first impression that ding-dongs into your consciousness, then not so much.
Doctor who didn't fail because of this reset or reboot it people dont want and fed up with bad writing and crap story and low budget crap with poor CGI compared to shows we have today and lets face it Ncuti Gatwa is so missed cast for this character. We have the Mandalorian and strange new worlds which are so much better and professional made with great CGI on a much bigger budget and then we get doctor who enough said its a poor show with more woke and making the character gay is just a disaster waiting to happen
I don’t think you can really call him miscast when he has a single episode under his belt. A lot of people disliked early Capaldi as well but he’s probably the crown jewel of New Who Doctors.
@@idle_speculation What i am saying is wrong actor for the part and to young for me David Tennant was the jewel crown Matt smith to young and i couldn't take him as dr who and that's the same with Ncuti Gatwa. As for capaldi is was a miserable Dr hardly smile moans all the time didn't add a good sense of humour maybe it was the boring story writing they done with him. Why for me Tennant was the all rounder he had a lot of tom baker into the character yet he still made it his own. Unfortunately they didn't really used him that well with the three episodes he was let down with bad writing and woke yet again
Side note- i could listen to you forever 💙💙✨🫶 but yes ...i agree in 2005 is made sense, Heck! Moff pushed to take Doctor Who global and pushed it on ... And it worked in 2013 it broke records and had colossal acclaim ... 2018 chibnall did similar too snd thst worked ... Now this seems to be more of the samr FLUX was a start of where we could go ... But yet eek! Ill watch it because Doctor Who is my fave ....love thsr you brought Buffy up too its so influential .... Doctor Who needs to be the leader now not following
indeed, dr who needs to lead not follow, and hope Russel has realized this and makes dr who on disney a superior show on there by quality and being an outside stand alone with quality and it's own spin offs, rather than just trying to fit in.
@@The_Nordic_Doctor I mean .... Besides the fans watching it anyway HOW would those episodes we've just had appeal to new eyes?! The eleventh hour, the woman who fell to earth etc harnesses a huge audience and nailed it whilst still referring to what happened before and remained unique and not to bogged down with prior knowledge needed as such ...whereas we got three hours of nothing much happening followed by the start of the new era that very much is tied to those said specials ....it's not EXCITING new show it's ...tired sadly it needs new voices
Just to be clear, this is not a critique of the 60th Anniversary's Content or Quality- simply the decision to reset to Season 1 and Disney's involvement.
I feel that alot of decisions RTD has made since returning have been largely unnecessary. The disney deal, davros change, bigeneration and the rebrand to name a few.
As the days pass, the more and more I am convinced the davros decision was mandated by Disney.
I really don't think Disney is owning Doctor Who as much as some people think. They're a distributor and not the production company nor even the main distributor - that's BBC1. The Davros change was dumb - but Disney does not have super duper creative control - it's not like Star Wars where they straight up bought it. The situation with the snowman part was a note that RTD accepted, and notes are common for practically all distributer screenings. The prolouge scene in LOTR wouldn't have been there if lot for a note.
@@Simlan12345 I'm mostly wanting to give RTD an out because the change is so stupid and out of character for him. Other than that I agree- to an extent. I would rather Disney had NO power over the show whatsoever. Their funding is not necessary, we do not bargain with devils
still better than anything during the Chibnall era or as we know it the dark times.
whats happened with davros
@@dwfan91-
See the principal of resetting the numbering idm in general. My friend once made a suggestion of how to categories it and such. But there’s a fundamental reason why this doesn’t work for me…
The show really doesn’t feel like it’s made that big of a shift. If anything it’s gone more backwards than it ever has. No original logo, the title sequence is pretty standard for who, the same composer, same writer, same production team. Nothings actually hit a reset button and the tone and feel of the show doesn’t actually feel far off from what it was.
Compare that to the shift from Season 26 and Series 1. There’s a clear shift in vision and outlook on the show. I think even RTD has gone slightly more traditional since his first era.
Idk, I think the show should only ever reset when the creative vision behind it dictates that it should.
I 100% agree on every point. "Don't hold onto the past" is something I've heard being said but as you say we have an old actor to play the Doctor having returned, the old showrunner and production team returning and even an old logo coming back. If the show actually committed to a reset and felt different then I would not only "not mind" but I would celebrate it. As I say in the video, the idea of a seasonal reset has been something that's gone over all our minds before but if you're doing it just for the sake of doing it, I'd rather we just kept on building on what we had before.
very true. there was a bigger shift between series 4 and 5 in terms of tone, production, etc than the changes now
I really think it was dumb that the 60th specials weren’t at the end of NuWho. New fans who will go straight for the new series will have a confusing bunch of episodes to say the least which are very referential to the past. They should have started with Ruby Road and just called it episode 1 🙄
The 60th isn't a part of the upcoming season 1 though, meaning new fans probably won't watch them, so this isn't really an issue. None of the specials were funded by Disney, they were just hosted on their service, so the specials are basically meant to be a goodbye to the old NuWho whilst setting up Ncuti's Doctor in the 4th special to give old fans an idea of if they want to keep watching or not. In other words, Church of Ruby Road was less a intro for new fans and more a litmus test for old fans. I'm certain that the first episode of season 1, which hasn't aired yet, will act as another reintroduction because that's when the reboot starts proper.
100% agreed!!!
If Davies and the BBC really wanted to relaunch the show, then they should have actually planned it out. Make Gatwa’s Era the final act of the Revival, let audiences know the Doctor will return, and then spend the next 3-5 years planning for the show to come back in a way that really shakes up the format.
This Rebrand is basically just New Who: Part 2 instead of the next step in the show’s evolution.
Part 1.1 tbh
I haven’t even eaten breakfast yet and I’m hearing some vile phrases like “Disney doctor who” man I not even hungry no mo.
Disney Doctor who won't (hopefully) be a thing - but it still isn't now.
@@Simlan12345 It's actually Disney Who lol. Looking forward to seeing the Zygons redesigned with Mickey ears!
@@mondovisionoh god that looked cursed in my mind if they were made of flesh lmao
Basically, Disney's fault.
Both Disney and the BBC.
When in doubt...
Disney and bbc wanting there agenda in it
Disney, Chibnall, RTD, Tenant and BBC are all complicit in killing this franchise
The rebrand/reboot to “Season 1” is as a result of Disney+ handling the streaming outside of the UK, no more, no less. Prior to the Disney merger there was no talk of a reset and fans were also assured that, once allied to the ‘House of Mouse’, there would be no influence or interference - something that was trashed once it became known that Disney had a test screening of “…Ruby Road” and insisted that the scene of Ncuti Gatwa with the falling snowman was filmed and inserted (originally this scene didn’t exist). And so it is that, for all that RTD is back and it’s still a BBC show, effectively Disney (and Disney’s cash) is “calling the shots”.
A fair and true assessment. I must confess, as a fan I feel a little betrayed and also embarrassed considering I oh-so-confidently claimed Disney would have little to no interference. Hopefully the corporate influence can be kicked to the curb as soon as possible and become a distant memory
Another good video. The only thing I really take issue with is the implication that the showrunner has much control over the episode count. I believe that has much more to do with the show's budget, so the choice is between longer gaps between seasons, fewer episodes per season, or cutting the special effects and filming time.
And if Russell ditches Disney, he'd have to find a replacement cosponsor, or the show would suffer cuts in at least 2 out of 3 of those things.
Considering this is a reboot, a format change would've solved all these problems. 18 20 minute episodes >> 8 45 minute ones.
@@dwfan91- Ah, I get what you're saying now. Would you envision them being released two at a time, or just one per week?
@@badwolf69420 A lot of shows right now are doing 1 20 minute episode a week and for me that would be my ideal with Doctor Who but I 100% understand some people preferring 2 and I would really enjoy that too.
On the Daleks vs. Cybermen front, while I always felt like the Cybermen were underused as a kid, I still would count myself a Dalek fan. Which is why it is so weird to me that Cybermen seem to have wormed their way so deep into my psyche. No hyperbole, I have dreams about Cybermen at least once a month, while I could count on one hand the number of times a Dalek has shown up in one of my dreams in my whole life.
I kinda hate Russell purely because i spoke up about his Tales of the Tardis not being available. I think he thought i was joking because he hearted me first but then someone responded and i gave my response and then he blocked me:(
Also, yeah, i have screenshots if anyone thinks im lying 😅
Well what exactly did you say in your initial post and in your response?
@@brewster_4 I looked at the screenshots and I slightly misremembered-
Someone was complaining about TOTT not being available worldwide and someone told them to: "just be grateful."
So I responded:
"Just be grateful?"
This is the comment Russell hearted for some reason.
The guy then responded and basically said: "Yeah. Do you pay the license fee? No. We do. Don't expect something you're not paying for."
And then I responded with:
"But if I could pay for it, I would. Its not like I'm expecting it for free. I'm just expecting it as an option at all. I think it's kind of rude to tell people to: "just be grateful" while you rub what they don't have in their face."
And then Russell blocked me.
@@carealoo744 weird, idk if could be a misunderstanding, and I recall maybe seeing that conversation, and your stance is the more logical and correct one, like I would pay to see the same stuff they can see on iplayer in the uk, if I could.
@@The_Nordic_Doctor If I can make an assumption on Russell's stance- And being blocked by him doesn't leave me much choice-
I imagine Russell was purely acting out of a reaction to exhaustion. I saw an interview with him behind the scenes where he said:
"I mean who doesn't love Christmas? And if you don't, I don't got time for you."
Which is a rather out of place comment and seems to show how he's feeling-
I imagine having to run this show, trying to be so ahead of the Game, trying to please everyone, write scripts, make sure everything behind the scenes is going smoothly, making sure the actors and directors and all the people working on the show are having their needs met- Not to mention anything and everything going on in his personal life, on top of dealing with Disney and trying to make sure every decision he makes is one that will hold up to an audience that won't see the Episode for 2 Years-
I imagine all of that can put a lot of stress on his psyche- And apparently Tales of the TARDIS was something he made super last minute because he was worried he didn't do enough to celebrate the 60th Anniversary.
So he writes a script, hires other writers, makes sure the actors are available, gets the set, films basically a short movie (if you put all 6 parts together) and gets it out to the public- Puts in all that hard work and then gets bombarded with messages on social media that it sucks because it's not available worldwide.
I imagine I wasn't the only one commenting that at the time, and he probably took one look at my comment and said:
"I just can't."
Poor dude:(
@@carealoo744 Either there is a Disney intern using his Twitter account, or RTD has had a stroke. No need to make excuses for his attitude on social media. He's burying his own era.
Dude the only way disney could hurt me any more is if they made an pixar style berserk adaptation
The season 1 rebrand is honestly so bad it doesn’t make any sense at all and the only reason why they did it is because Disney wanted it easier for newer viewers its so completely unneeded theres like 4 different jumping on points in new who I feel like disney has just made watching doctor who more complicated when they were trying to make it more simple
ERIC
This is literally what they did with DC comics in like 2011. They rebooted it, but not really so enough changed (along with the legacy numbers getting rest) and everyone one that was a long time fan was PISSED! They’d eventually rest things back to normal(sorta) and they did waaaaaaay better(…. Till the screwed that up.)
It's also kinda happening with the movies but we've yet to see how that'll go
Disney should be taking inspiration from British shows if they want to make shorter seasons like Sherlock
Brilliant video, really great, well thought out points.
It's of note that the classic series shorts are being rested.
The timing, after so many youtube videos have pointed out how much popular the shorts are to the thing on TV now being called Doctor Who, is astonishing.
Someone doesn't like the fact the classic show is clearly more widely appreciated than current 'Doctor Who'.
All academic now, current 'Doctor Who' is dead and beyond saving. It will surely be cancelled after 2025 plays out and then it needs to be left alone.
Maybe in 5 to 10 years someone can have a go at reviving it, but right here and now it is dead and I say that as a fan of 36 years.
Anyway, great video.
The mouse can go get stomped on by the Myrka. But man, i'm gonna watch all new Doctor Who content until i'm dead. Once you've seen the Twin Dilemma, anything else is at least watchable.
You're under no obligation to do that
You know I always found RTD to be very overrated, not that he's not good or doesn't deserve praise but people act like everything he does is perfect. And with the decisions he's made, Disney influence or not, this has just been further cemented for me. I am glad to see more people call him out though!
My unpopular opinion isn't that he's overrated necessarily but that the standards for him are wayyy lower for some reason. If Chris Chibnall or even Steven Mofffat did half the things he'd done they would've been crucified at this point.
Regardless of how many 'reboots' of Doctor Who there are, it's always tied back to lore; so there's little point in rebooting/resetting it for the billionth time ESPECIALLY when arcs of previous series lead directly into each other. The re/brand/boot/set is silly and obviously 'Season 1' is Series 14.
While RTD is obviously collaborating with Disney, did he have any direct involvement or control over the original BBC decision to work with Disney?
this is something I would like to know
I can see why they would call it Season 1 - for new whovians so they don't get overwhelmed but i would say 100% of the community would call it series 14 or in extreme cases, season 40
i have been watching doctor who for my entire life and it just gets to a point where i don't let bad writing ruin it because in my opnion as a fan, it is one of the most poorly written shows in the history of television. it's campy, pointless and weird and so it's hard for me to put it any higher than any other sci-fi production. i love the show to bits, i just know its crap too.
I don't think it's poorly always been poorly written. I think we've been really lucky to have acclaimed writers like RTD and Steven Moffat. I get what you're saying about not taking it seriously, but I think especially with the revival, the writing, barring a few series has been really good. Whether it's plot for Moffat or character or character for RTD, it's been solid. I don't think most of us would be into it if the characters and stories were rubbish. It being fun helps ofc.
@@jimii.doctor It being fun and campy and not a work of high-fiction is the reason why it's good. Even in the serious moments, it can be goofy. And that's charming. Like, I don't care if the writing is bad or acting's a bit silly or the plot's themes are hand over fist... It's just charming as it's honest.
And that's what I see in all Doctor Who. Even Jodi. It being silly or dumb is why I like it. Something being poorly written doesn't mean it's rubbish. It can be entertainingly campy.
My main take away was why wasCripy Pro in Wandavision?
Judge Dredd is a great example of the benefits of not rebooting. 45 years of a continous continuity.
Totally agree the 45 minute format has hamstrung the series from Eccleston onwards, but I cant see it changing. The best they could do is make the majority of stories 2 parters
I think you're slightly overstating Disney's influence a little bit. Disney can give notes but that's it, and thus far their notes have been positive: for example originally Ncuti's Doctor was in his first episode LESS than what we ended up getting, which Disney noted to RTD that they feel the Doctor should be in it more so he wrote a new scene to insert into the episode heavily featuring Ncuti. And notes being given isn't new, the BBC would do the same thing in the past, it's part of the process really. And RTD has said that the british-ness of Doctor Who will not be changed, it will remain as quintessentially British and Doctor Who as it has always been.
I'd love to hear your opinions on Spider-Man and I completely understand the point about comics and reboots in comparison to what they're doing in New Who.
It happens with some series as well, where they keep the creative teams and just jump it back to a #1 issue after a year, just to try and boost the dwindling sales.
Obviously, RTD wants to do the same wirh Doctor Who, but unlike with comics, we don't have any big starting points. Ncuti's whole backstory is mired in 13 and 14's history and I don't think eight episodes is enough to properly explore both he and Ruby's characters in an effective manner.
I think one good comparison is with Superior Spider-Man. The Superior story was built off around five years of history prior to it, and One More day was based off decades of history before the soft reboot of Spider-Man, kinda like the break between Old and New Who, making Superior Newer Who.
It is really silly to break with the series numbering for an arbitrary reason, because you can't get into Ncuti without having an awareness of what came before.
One More Day was really popular right! /s
This was a very articulate and intelligent video post. I very much appreciated it as well as being fully engaged.
Doctor who isn't really being rebooted again it's just a number reset for Disney plus internally they still refer to the new seasons as 14 and 15 it likely won't be referred to as season 1 in the UK it's a reboot in name only and is only season one internationally
So far Disney have only interfered once and it was only a note that rustle could have chosen to ignore it but it ended up being one of my favourite scenes in the Christmas specials
Honestly, I don't see a point in discussing the "reboot" of the show. Technically it meets the definition. However after Steven Moffat took over and after that Chris Chibnall, those also felt like reboots especially by a regular non Doctor who standard. Now we have another shift with showrunners and on top of that disney plus integration. Debating things like the change of the branding and other superficial things does not seems relevant considering changes in cast, look, sets, etc.are part for the course for this show. Maybe I got that wrong, but you seemed to have a big issue with restarting the numbering of the show. I really don't understand why that should be a problem or seem like too big an interference. The reasoning seems quite simple. Disney plus does not have and for the foreseeable future will not have the rights to any episodes prior to the Star Beast. If they want to promote the show for new audiences, it is hard to do, when the only content you have to start off is series 14. From a viewer perspective, you would not be interested in the show which starts with series 14 with no way of seeing series 1. I really don't think there was much else at play.
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9:15 I agree with most of what you said but tbf the new seasons trailer can be seen on the Doctor Who UA-cam channel, the BBC UA-cam channel and just in adverts but the season 15 would only really get the big attraction on the Doctor Who UA-cam channel
I actually dont think this is a bad counterpoint- the trailer was uploaded on multiple channels and will be shown on Televisions. Overall more people will see it. But my point isnt really about that- Its more to highlight that the demand for Modern Who-centric content far outweighs the demand for a reboot. The trailers for the 60th Anniversary also did better than the one for Season 1 and those too were uploaded to multiple channels. Again though, I don't think anything you said is remotely wrong whatsoever
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The season 15 trailer got more views because it was only accessible on UA-cam, whilst the new Season 1 trailer was watched by most after the Xmas special aired, and then was uploaded to every single social media platform, so thats why the UA-cam upload didnt get loads of views. The season 15 trailer was an anomaly compared to the usual upload on the official UA-cam channel, which garnered attention due to popular iconography in the thumbnail and title (daleks, timelords, gallifrey), which is undeniable when compared to the views on other season collection trailers.
Also I'm not too happy with the rebrand myself, but it makes sense as long as RTD brings in new concepts and villains, and retires Daleks, Cybermen and the Master for a few good years.
I agree that the video got its views due to the popular iconography
12:10 As someone who really just started to get into the classic series last year (watched all the Hartnell episodes and I'm currently in the middle of the Troughton era), I would like to try making my own show or webseries that's a throwback/homage to sci-fi serials like Doctor Who, or even Flash Gordon. I can't really think of a lot of shows nowadays that are less than 45 minutes, other than maybe animated shows and sitcoms. It would be interesting if they went back to to the classic 20 minute serial format, but I don't think it's likely to happen.
Sadly, they have chosen against it. I understand why in 2005 the decision was made to switch to 45 minute episodes and why for all of the years since its remained at that length (more or less) but with the opportunity provided for them with this second reboot, I just find it baffling that they would decide against it. No one in their right mind would take eight 45 minute episodes over eighteen 20 minute episodes.
I don't see what is the issue here.
Like for us hardcore whovians it doesn't matter whether we watch season 40 series 14 or season 1
We just want new Doctor Who content.
This change is superficial it won't affect quality of the incoming stories.
And it can be helpful for those who are joining on Disney+ so they don't have to be confused where are previous 13 series
Disney involvement is terrible for all of us.
Lets hope that Russel after he leaves wont come back and reboot it again
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Good video !
Thank you!
I strongly disagree about Wandavision, it was one of the best things Marvel released since Endgame.
Nah bro, I’m the Dalek fan #1
I’mma call it season 40 lol
A great example of a comic series that is kept going it had continuity and journey Walking Dead great
Classic who, new who, and now disney who
Disney does not understand consumer behaviour?
Judging by the fact they had like 5 flops in the last year and are currently undergoing drastic changes at the top of their leadership, maybe idk tho
It’s a funny one because the 60th anniversary specials are an end and a beginning
End of 2005 Who which is fine, ties everything up but having Ncuti there means it’s the beginning of this new era, with Rose and Mel and Unit all in series 1, people need to watch The Giggle so they understand but you also need to watch Wild Blue Yonder but you also then need to watch The Star Beast
It’s a bridge
There really wasn’t a need to change it back to series 1 but I can see why they did it, Disney only having 2023 and after would look weird being numbered as series 14 and in England you couldn’t carry on and call it series 14 because it might get confusing if the same show is labeled as Doctor Who series 14/Season 1
It’s barely a reboot, if it was series 14 then it would only be considered a soft reboot, like series 5 and 11 but because it’s series 1, everyone is scared
They were rumours series 11 was going to be called series 1, obviously that didn’t happen but if it had, it wouldn’t have made any difference, maybe look a tad better but thats literally it and it nature things will get look better, 2005 CGI and picture quality looks terrible in comparison to CGI and picture quality in 2010, and that looks bad compared to 2020 CGI and picture quality and it continues
I was actually going to mention this in my video- what would people's thoughts have been if Series 11 reset to Season 1. I personally think it would've been terrible
@@dwfan91- I agree somewhat because series 11 was very flat, if it was the best we’ve had in years then maybe it would of been different
@@doctorwhoproductions834 Ironically 2017 would've been the perfect time period to have done a reset. If you look on UA-cam, interest in the show took a massive spike at around that time (although this was because it went to Netflix which is far bigger than Disney Plus.) And I actually don't mind Series 11 in fact I think a lot of the episodes in that series are pretty good. But it wouldn't have worked as a reset, not at all.
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Yoir point is very muddled. You say that people dont want franchises, citing the MCUs recent failure as an example, but then say that audiences want something familiar and long running - which I'd say also describes the MCU fairly well.
A big factor in The Marvels underperformance seems to be audience assumption that the Disney+ shows were homework to understand what happens (among other factors that a lot of content grifters are applying to Dr Who). Surely the same problem would be present if trying to sell the 14th season of a show.
Season 1 feels like, from marketing so far, it's using the concept of jumping on points in the show and bringing them front and center to a new audience (the fact that the specials barely accommodate that audience notwithstanding, I say this with the assumption that S1x01 is going to be a perfect jumping on point for new viewers)
Honestly, I'd personally do away with the numbering at this point and just go with subtitles like Flux did. As they're banking this in advance, they know how connected different seasons could be, so they could make sure Arcs full under the same banner, similar to what Big Finish do with their box sets. Call series 5-6 The Silence Arc Chapters One through Three and let the die hards argue over the numbers 😂
Sadly I think you misunderstand. The words I use is people "barely want franchises," which is true. A lot of people *say* they want something original but we all know that franchises do sell the best regardless of what people say. Whats important to note however is the fact that we've had so many big franchise movies (from DC to Marvel to even the 'Monsterverse' and the Sonyverse, Disney Animated Movies, Pixar etc) underperform- so much so to the point where it becomes clear you can't really get away with it as much anymore. On a different note- I agree that the subtitle approach would be far more appropriate, especially given the reduced episode count.
When are you going to give us your ranking of all dalek stories?
I'll be on that right away!
He's just gonna complain anyway what's the point
I can't believe this needs to be explained but I can guarantee the soft reboot is happening ENTIRELY due to the fandom's overall poor reception to the Chibnall era and the Timeless Child, specifically. People forget that for the past three series in a row the BBC was outright threatening cancellation. THAT'S why RTD has accepted the Disney funding. It's because the BBC has simultaneously cut funding to DW. Without this lifeline it's entirely likely the series wouldn't be getting a new "Season 1" at all right now.
I disagree. If that were true when why are we continuing the timeless child plotline? It was resolved at the end of Flux, there is no reason to pursue it outside of Russell T Davies wanting to. We all know by now that Doctor Who was in danger of being put on hiatus after Series 10 and after COVID and that Chris Chibnall saved the show twice, but I don't remember there being talks that the show was in trouble after S11.
@@dwfan91- I mean, it's not so much that they're shying away from that part of the storline as much as they just want an otherwise clean sweep from the entire production of Chibnall Who. That's the reason they made sure to ditch all the previous companions, didn't even have Jodie in the 60th, and have barely mentioned anything about the aftermath of the Flux. It seems that Timeless Child just happens to be one plot thread that RTD does like and apparently he plans to play around with it in the future. But even that's been heavily toned down.
@@video-luver769 It'd be pretty weird to bring Jodie back one episode after she left- Flux was name dropped 2 times in three episodes and the timeless child stuff has arguably been toned *up*
I don't think theres any evidence that this is in response to "Chibnall Who," if anything their clear respect of the era that just came before is one of the positives. They've already acknowledged it far more than they needed to or I ever expected them to
This isn't true. Doctor Who contributed to the BBC making record profits in 2021. It was the second most streamed show on BBC Iplayer in 2022, and Doctor Who Flux toped the Official TV On Video Chart for three consecutive weeks in a row; it was in the top 10 for ten, and Jodie Whittaker nearly dethroned David in the 2020 Radio Times Top Doctor poll. Saying that the fandom had an overall poor reception of the Chibnall era and the Timeless Child doesn't make it true. It may have been divisive online, but most things are. Besides, if something is divisive, it means that there are people who don't like it, but it also means that there are those who do. As for the funding, it wasn't cut. Doctor Who has always had a comparatively low budget; nothing had changed.
The show faced the threat of cancellation every time a showrunner left. If you have something to say beyond “rip Doctor Who chinballs bad” then I’m struggling to find it
They should have renamed it to ‘Dr. Who’ - just for the bants.
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What is this background song?!
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Dr Who was bad way Before Disney entered the picture. The entire Jodie Whittaker run was boring and preachy.
Disagree
does that make this New New Who?
honestly the fact that people are still calling this New Who is indicative of how pointless it is
Exactly. They don't need to reset the counter; both series 5 and series 11 functioned as soft resets despite not being 'series 1'. This reeks of Disney not wanting to confuse people by having something on their service marked as 'series 14'.
alongside series 10 it also was meant to be a soft reboot, that's why the first episode was called pilot.@@michaelfraser1073
Tbh, I think of this as more of a soft reboot. While Im currently enjoying the many adventures Big Finish have put out, I gotta admit it's been a hot while since I sat down and watched the revival era and just wanted to enjoy something without too much baggage, even if I enjoyed it up to this point.
how to fix dr who? put an appealing actor in the role that people want to see, good stories, classic bad guys. it's not that hard. the Xmas special was unwatchable trash and probably turned more people off the show.
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Loki season one and two (payoff in two) is one of the best marvel stories ever. I enjoyed Wanda Vision. I’d say a small percentage of marvel tv is good but most is crap. Same with Star Wars…Mandolorian season 1 and 2 was great. After that the Disney formula killed it. Andor was great….but I fear for season 2. And Doctor Who does not feel like Doctor Who. Ncuti does not seem to be the Doctor to me. The stories are spotty…some enjoyable some not. But none feel like Doctor who. Almost. But not really. And the only thing I can see that is different is Disney.
Eh, Russel bringing David back is like resurrecting Romeo and Juliette; takes the punch out of the tragedy. His regeneration and Donna's Meta-crisis arcs are now pretty much worthless. And for what? 3 episodes? RTD lost his edge. Seems like a fantasy projection to blame Disney when Russel is literally writing his best work out of existence. I just hope he doesn't write #15 as "Doctor Weeaboo", but we all know Disney is where great I.P.'s go to die. =(
Not really keen on the Disney thing but i really believe that doctor who can be saved after the chibnall era. I might be wrong but I’d rather be delusional than realistic
Doctor Who will be fine
@@dwfan91-it somehow always is
@@dwfan91- I agree with this, since dr who can always survive even after death, irl the show, and in the show's universe too the dr can heh.
if the show gets like reaally baad some time will pass and some fan will have grown up and could bring the show back in some form or another.
At last, people are about to stop calling my black arse a bigotic racist loudmouth just to call a straw cat a straw cat.
This series has become a *mess.*
Disney is a corporation that I hate even before it started going shit I always hated it, I'd see something then I see Disney then I do not watch it, doctor who is special though but if this quality keeps up, I'd still watch it but enjoy it less and I think it would get cancelled pretty quickly
Oh well
I don't get why people don't like the Mandoverse it's not perfect it does have it's flaws but I've loved it from start to finish.
I liked season 1. Season 2 onwards was more fanservice rather than story but I'm glad you like it
As a non-UK fan, canceling the Disney+ deal will be devastating for me. Finally after almost ten years there's a place I can watch new episodes in my country and I wouldn’t want to go back to how it was before. I don't believe Doctor Who will ever become like a Disney+ show, as it has the ability to tell more imaginative stories than any other intellectually bankrupt Disney franchise. I think that the season one reset is unnecessary and I would want future series to have more than 8 episodes, but other than that I believe in the future of the show, even on Disney+.
Oh! WandaVision slander? Interesting…
WandaVision is GOAT
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The shame of you!
Cybermen are supreme!
Idk mate sure I would like it to say series 14 to but I have seen a lot of people who I know have never cared about doctor who in years don’t do again and my younger cousins and there friends are into doctor who now after the Christmas special that’s how you make new fans I do think it’s needed after the chibnial era where they would not get out of the lore box that’s good every once and awhile but when you base an entire story arc on it it just gets messy and makes the show impossibly to follow without 60 years wroth of this show to follow so I do think a general reset would do this show wonders cause chibnals era was very stuck in the past trying to be Russell era but I’m really hoping Russell himself wants to try something different and get new people into cause it gets daunting to try a new show 14 seasons I think that’s something we forget as long time fans
My only problem with your reasoning is that just because you say something is a series 1 doesn't necessarily mean it is one. Those 13 series do still exist, the show is still directly following on from them and actual new viewers will be completely lost as to what is happening. There are times when its good to fall back on legacy and times when its good to stand on your own two feet and I think right now, resetting to Series 1 is just about the worst decision they could've made
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Ive heard alot of people call the ncuti season “neo who”
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@@dwfan91- uh idk ive heard a couple of youtubers call it that, like harbo wholmes
CDW, MDW, DDW
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every time the Doctor regenerates its a rebrand.
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@@dwfan91- thats the joy of the show.
@@purefoldnz3070 I agree. Partly why I'm disappointed with this one- all bark but no bite. Speak of change and yet all I see is reversion, even the logo reverted back and yet they're saying its Season 1. If it *was* an actual reboot I'd be all in but its very clear someone (cough cough) forced their hand
@@dwfan91- well lets wait until the actual series comes out first. All we have seen is the Christmas special which are always hit and miss.
@@purefoldnz3070 Sure
Dr who season 1 to 4 and the specials where the best years of the show after that it has been going down hill fast.
series 2 was mid
What choice did they have. disney didnt want classic or modern who and wanted a fresh clean slate to edge away the broading complexities of doctor who lore and create its own identity is that too much to ask?
yes
Clinging onto the past after a literal nostalgia trip is childish and unnecessary we've literally gotten out fair share of nostalgia it's time for new content the new viewers will come internationally and Disney is there for that and if you want another nostalgia trip wait until 2033 and I'll be sure to wheel in Smith and tennant so you can lick their toes 😂
@@Nomiplus123 what a strange thing to say
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@@dwfan91- it's my opinion I feel we should ofc honour the past but also pave the way for the future as we're going to face tomorrow not yesterday and we have to adapt as fans of an ever changing show the changing of numbers or a soft reboot shouldn't cause you to whine unnecessarily it seriously makes me lose hope in the fandom not that you need any help with that right-wing rasists have already destroyed my perception. Aside that I feel strongly that it's nessacary for doctor who to utilise this leverage of platform I understand Disney isn't doing that well in terms of ratings on TV shows but the viewing figures that got leaked from 2022 Thailand (7.1M) for she-hulk say otherwise doctor who needs the views and adaptation in vital this is a step in the right direction there isn't a point in crying over spilt milk and season 1 is what it'll be known as universally I apologise for coming across as strange in the previous comment.
I just cannot see one person pulling up and being like ooooo new lovely jubly show called doctor who let’s give this a watch. And even if they did they are going to be instantly bamboozled by this fella being the FIFTEENTH doctor and what the fuck is a timeless child?!!!
The thing is, the 2023 specials never refer to Gatwa as the 15th Doctor, and never mention the Timeless Child. No one in 2005 were bamboozled by Christopher Eccleston being the 9th Doctor either
@@brewster_4 lol was kinda just joking. But still the 2005 reboot was actually made as a reboot. It was designed so you just jump on there. But this is essentially is just series 14, and it’s likely that all the recent events and continuity will continue to referred to. So the whole reboot is just silly. Don’t really know how this could attract new viewers.
@@ManiBatchelor But season 1 is being designed so viewers can jump on here too. The season hasn't even aired yet, so we don't know whether it will refer to recent events. I'm guessing it will connect back to the 60th through the characters of Kate, Mel, and Rose, but it wouldn't be that hard to reintroduce those character through the eyes of Ruby like how Rose met Sarah Jane in series 2.
In terms of attracting new viewers, imagine they see this show on Disney+ called Doctor Who. They click on it, and the first thing they see is listed as series 14. Now probably two things will pop into their heads.
1. Where's series 1-13?
2. I have to watch 13 other series on a different streaming service just to watch this new Disney+ stuff
Most people wouldn't decide to watch based on just these two things alone, but if it's listed as season 1 this will give new viewer the immediate impression that this is a start, and that no prior knowledge is need (like what Moffat did naming Series 10 Episode 1 the Pilot)
I don’t know if he can get away from Disney. I think the BBC sold Doctor Who to them because they foresee the corporation becoming sold off when the license fee runs out. Doctor Who sold to Disney in order to save it.
evidence?
It's that UK (if not RoW) TV and movie writing is now so crap and formulaic that no one wants to watch them. You saw this start in the Smith era. Capaldi couldn't make it good consistently. Still think they should reboot to him and lose the following seasons.
I will take UK TV and film over Disney any day, no contest
Nothings really gonna change, we have RTD back, some of the same writers, some new ones, the formats gonna be the same, the Christmas specials are back, a fantastic looking new TARDIS, which I must admit had my daughter and myself cheering and going wow, Disney won’t be fundamentally changing things, just making it more accessible to more people and throwing some money at it to give it a more polished feel, all I’m saying is really is to give it a chance, I really don’t know how anyone can judge and condemn a show after the 60th anniversary trilogy, which I got for Christmas on Blu-ray, and the Christmas special. RTD brought the show back, us who are old enough remember it being taken off the air in 1989, and. I seriously hope that doesn’t happen again, it might though if you negative Nancy’s out there start hating on it again so soon after the Chibnell era, you may as well get yourselves a hammer and a bag of nails and start bashing them into Dr Who’s coffin lid now. Stop hating on it because they’ve reverted to season 1 again, it’s just a number, doesn’t mean they discount all that’s gone before, and stop hating on Disney, are the ones who are going to financially back the program and show it to a larger audience, I for one am really looking forward to the new season and I’m old school, I grew up with Jon Pertwee and Tom Baker, and personally I don’t think the show has diminished, there have been good and bad episodes in the new Who run, we had that back in the 70’s, didn’t mean it was all rubbish and was doomed to fail, it only failed first time around because of Michael Grade, who hated sci-fi in all its forms, he even tried to get it banned for good when RTD was trying to resurrect it; and you never know, there may be a Michael Grade type waiting in the wings to do it all over again, don’t give them any help in the matter.
I'm not hating. For the record, if I didn't make it clear in the video enough, I have nothing against the new era, Russell T Davies, Ncuti Gatwa or anyone. In fact I was very positive to all the episodes. I'm glad you and your daughter enjoyed the reveal of the new TARDIS interior, I similarly enjoyed it. My argument is simply that if we're reverting the logo, have old faces coming back constantly and are continuing on the plotlines of the previous series, why would we reset the numbering? I don't want Disney to get their paws on my favourite show in the world, simple as that
@@dwfan91-do your research
@@shemdellashemygd29 I researched your mother last night if you know what im saying
@@dwfan91- see can't even do your research. Clearly the Disney news has been stated for 2 years now stay delusional. Get a life
@@shemdellashemygd29 ok ill stay delusional
I think the writing of the specials was atrocious. Tennant shouldn’t have come back and the Bi-Generation was bloody awful. If they want to reboot it so that new fans can jump onboard then why have the Doctor angst ridden over the timeless child plot line? RTD should never have returned. An Unearthly Child was the perfect jumping on point. Rose was too silly a pilot but Christopher Eccleston held it all together and as soon as he left it all went downhill fast until RTD left. I agree with you about Disney. It’s sad that Doctor Who wasn’t kept British. RTD has lost his mind and become an egotistical delusional maniac.
"It’s sad that Doctor Who wasn’t kept British" except it was.
@@friendlyotaku9525 No. the sexualisation of the Doctor started with the TV Movie (American BBC co-production. American side wanted the Doctor romantic) and was made worse under Tennant and RTD. For the first 7 Doctors that never happened. Whether it’s the influence of Universal or Disney or the Producer trying to create a more Hollywood version it all weakens the series.
@PaulRichards-vz4pl ah yes, as we know british don't have romance.
@@friendlyotaku9525 He was very much the alien eccentric in Classic Who and it worked far better that way. Why drag the Doctor down to a human level? The companions are there for that.
Doctor who is a sinking ship
tbf some numbers that haven't watched it on yt could've seen the trailer elsewhere like tv or then don't wanna get spoiled.
also idk but maybe the right wing mob lies/twisted things/constant hate and propaganda vids could influence a tad bit?
thankfully it aint a full reboot and it's the same continuity, that's the top priority and important thing, tho kind of annoying or like disappointing 15th's first series is gonna be an introduction way again and kind of written like that, I just would prefer good writing and stories, but disney probs demands the writing to be introducing a bit... oh and the people that have not seen dw before kind of influence that pressure to do that even unkowingly.
btw I agree I want the disney influence to be minimal, and seeing the kind of part rise of prime with em gathering series, idk maybe some other place could or could've been in some aspects a better home, also I don't want the other shows on disney+ to influence dr who at all, rather I wanna see dr who being peak and tumbling/ making the other shows stumble because of how great dr who is being an outside standalone with upcoming spin offs
I do hope they eventually add the rest (past) to disney+ and have 3 volumes, classic, revival(new who), new new who/vol III
I call out bad faith actors attacking the show for political reasons all the time- I'm not even criticising the quality of episodes. Again I want to reiterate, I like Russell T Davies and Ncuti Gatwa. I'm just calling a spade a spade. I don't like that Disney is involved and I want to speak out against it
@@dwfan91- yea I get that, heh oops if my stupid fast typing style made it seem that I was stamping you to be some stuff I mentioned or that I wouldn't have gotten your side/view correctly
@@dwfan91- and yea I agree, disney shouldn't be involved except only to broadcast/stream
Disney,.... its not only sex and gender swaps. It is the storieswho are dump. Alien pronouns? For mee too much
RTD2 is what RTD1 would have been without Eccleston to push back against the hebephilia.
Say what you will about Disney, but they learned a thing or two from _Hannah Montana._
What
Please show me those examples of hebephilia in RTD2
And please show me those examples of Eccleston ever talking about him pushing back against hebephilia
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@@brewster_4 Thank you very much for asking me questions instead of jumping to conclusions as your fellow travelers have done. Alas, you only get half credit, as only one question is fair, so I am entitled to a smidgeon of contumely.
I'll answer your second question and then the first. Then I'll give you some information on why this is particularly important to me and another chance to think about what I am saying and respond. This opportunity is only for you and not any idiot fellow travelers.
First, the second question is in extremely bad faith, and I daresay you knew that when you asked it. Eccleston signed a contract with the BBC. As they all do, it contains a non-disclosure or do not discuss clause. If Eccleston were to talk about it, he could be held liable for all the money they paid him plus nine times that amount for punitive damages. He is not so stupid as to break that. His "sack Russel T. Davies" moment came close, but was legalistically worded so that he could defend himself against court action and probably win. I am certainly not going to endanger him by disclosing private information, because I respect him.
Now for the first question. I am limiting my answer to text and paratext, things you can easily verify for yourself. I'm going to cover _Queer as Folk,_ the Eccleston year, and the four 60th specials or three 60th specials plus Christmas special or first episode, whatever, depending on whether we've always been at war with Eastasia or Eurasia this week. Note that _QaF_ and the reboot are not definitive or disposative; they just provide additional information consistent with the rest.
I have only seen snippets of _QaF,_ so I can't give corroborating evidence others have told me about. But that was when Rose 0 was introduced. She was the _little red girl_ so sexy that a 100% gay man could go for.
Now for Rose 1 in the Eccleston era. She was young enough to stay at home. Rose's mother flirted with him and then did the "you're what, 40?" thing, of course to remind us that The Doctor is way over 40. This resembles the mother/daughter sexual tension and competition common in dysfunctional families. I've seen people say that Rose should have been creeped out by when The Doctor took her hand. Then there's the "You need a Doctor" scene, which others complained was too sexual. Note that people objected to McGann's Doctor's kiss, which to me seemed natural, and Eccleston's was evidently steamier. This is not definitive precisely because Eccleston is such a good actor and was able to keep the nookie at bay with acting, as I mentioned in my OP.
Now for "The Star Beast." Rose 2 is a _15-year-old kid._ That's too young to consent to sex or bottom surgery in the UK. She's played by Finney, who was 19 but may have been 18 at the time (I don't know) but clearly an adult. She's dolled up in a way that the cash-strapped Nobles would not have been able to afford for a shopping trip. The result is that she looks older. In more natural photos, she looks her age, which is still a bit of a stretch but might have been fixed with behavioral affectations of youth, which Finney did not use at all.
We know how Donna uses the term _gorgeous_ because she applied it to her mostly virtual husband back in the Vashta Nerada days. It's clearly sexualizing, as it is in almost all instances. Even when applied to, say, artwork, it connotes a certain lush. We also know from the same days that she would be an excellent mother.
Yet Donna and the rest of the family consistently calls Rose _gorgeous._ Not _pretty_ or even _cute,_ which would be age-appropriate, though the latter has sexual connotations for adults but none for children, and Rose 2 is between.
Sylvia wonders if it's sexist to keep calling Rose 2 _gorgeous._ Of course it is. It's Gender Studies 101 that you don't repeatedly call attention to a teenage girl's looks because it makes her believe her sexual appeal is her only positive attribute and often leads to self-destructive behaviors such as bulemia and cutting.
When we get the dead-naming scene, it looks and is intended to look like a bunch of kids hassling an adult.
RTD also did a publicity photo shoot with Finney dolled up as Rose 2 carrying a shopping bag with a smiley face with hearts for eyes. Perhaps actual Kubrick _Lolita_ glasses would lack subtlety.
I won't say much about _Wild Blue Yonder,_ because the problem with that is mostly racism.
Now for _The Giggle._ The Toymaker establishes that _little red girl all grown up_ Donna always had the balls in the relationship. At the end, Tennant's Doctor is put to pasture as bottom to Donna's top.
Now for _The Church on Ruby Road._ Reportedly, the nightclub scene was a long-time fantasy by RTD. Consider a new viewer, who has no idea who The Doctor is, seeing that for the first time. 31-year-old Gatwa has been stalking Ruby, a 19-year-old Ruby, another _little red girl._ He uses an admittedly clever alcohol-based pick-up line on Ruby, and it isn't long before she is jumping in his arms. The United States, where Disney is located, has a federal minimum drinking age of 21. It is not _crazy_ so say that the falling snowman scene, establishing that The Doctor is a good guy on the side of The Law, shifts away enough cringe to be palatable.
We also have the fact of a stated subplot where Gatwa's Doctor was going to _plook_ Ruby's boyfriend or at least try. Not only is this kinda sus, but it would have taken a great deal more setup than the remnant of Ruby's character will be allowed, belying the idea that Ruby was planned only to appear a few times in the first season. Once again, it is not _crazy_ to suggest that only strangulation of the purse strings by Disney could have made such a change.
There's more, but I'll stop here, because that is enough. As Haruki Murakami said, if you can't understand it without an explanation, you can't understand it with an explanation.
Now, it would be preternaturally stupid to try to argue with me, by saying that isn't *real* hebephilia or I'm overreacting or overthinking or it's just a teevee show or kids wouldn't notice or whatever. For one thing, you haven't asked what my opinions on those statements are, which is good, because neither yours or mine are relevant in the slightest.
What *is* relevant is that RTD has tied up with a pretty red ribbon a thermonuclear device for the Right to use to genocide LGBTQ+ people. After RTD put all this up on the screen, it will never again be possible to counter the Right's claims associating LGBTQ+ with grooming. Part of the reason that _QaF_ and the reboot are not determinative is that both are considered adult shows in the United States. Yet RTD has specifically stated that the 60th onward is explicitly for sending messages to kids.
When the Right wants to say, "they're coming for your kids," all they'll have to do is point. No claims that they are making it up will work. Neither I nor anybody will be able to point to any LGBTQ+ influencers and presenters who are pushing back on this transphobia and homophobia, *because there evidently aren't any.* This is a misstep greater than Oscar Wilde turning a losing defamation lawsuit into pontification over The Love that Dare Not Speak Its Name.
The Right is retarded, but if you do not think they will get around to it, consider this. They are already showing _Kill the Moon_ in churches to put across their pro-death anti-abortion policies, and that is typically the only episode their flock ever sees.
Now here's why I care so much. Though you lot all seem to be picking your noses over this, *I personally do not want to accelerate the genocide.* I particularly do not want to give the right free ammunition. This is why I pay attention to messages you lot simply cannot be arsed to think about at all.
I have a particular stake in the matter because *I am a casualty in the genocide.* This is why I am Dead Man.
If you look at the top, you will see a little circle next to my name. It contains an image of the *written death threat* issued to me about halfway into being physically tortured by being prevented from sleeping for more than three weeks into pleading guilty to doing something which I did but which was *not against the law.* Please do not bother telling me that you cannot believe this based on your experience with sleep deprivation. You have already demonstrated your brain isn't all that, though it is evidently better than your fellow travelers, which is why this message is for you. I'm sure it's too long for them to read anyway.
I've learned from Robert Sapolsky that neurogenesis happens in the hippocampus, but it still took a year for mine to grow back to a level of basic competence. I published a book with my writings during that time partially to demonstrate how brain damage affected me. I'm writing another book nobody will read which will go with my channel nobody watches, but I have no idea how I'm going to pay to print it. I do have a small pension from my stint as a university professor, but I only have $201 after monthly rent, and getting a supplementary income as a convicted felon on the registry is not as easy as you may assume.
If you click on that and get some information from my videos and think a bit about what I have clearly and truthfully said, then I will be willing to continue the conversation. If that's just too much for you, and you continue to insist on believing the first impression that ding-dongs into your consciousness, then not so much.
Doctor who didn't fail because of this reset or reboot it people dont want and fed up with bad writing and crap story and low budget crap with poor CGI compared to shows we have today and lets face it Ncuti Gatwa is so missed cast for this character. We have the Mandalorian and strange new worlds which are so much better and professional made with great CGI on a much bigger budget and then we get doctor who enough said its a poor show with more woke and making the character gay is just a disaster waiting to happen
I don’t think you can really call him miscast when he has a single episode under his belt. A lot of people disliked early Capaldi as well but he’s probably the crown jewel of New Who Doctors.
@@idle_speculation What i am saying is wrong actor for the part and to young for me David Tennant was the jewel crown Matt smith to young and i couldn't take him as dr who and that's the same with Ncuti Gatwa. As for capaldi is was a miserable Dr hardly smile moans all the time didn't add a good sense of humour maybe it was the boring story writing they done with him. Why for me Tennant was the all rounder he had a lot of tom baker into the character yet he still made it his own. Unfortunately they didn't really used him that well with the three episodes he was let down with bad writing and woke yet again
Side note- i could listen to you forever 💙💙✨🫶 but yes ...i agree in 2005 is made sense, Heck! Moff pushed to take Doctor Who global and pushed it on ... And it worked in 2013 it broke records and had colossal acclaim ... 2018 chibnall did similar too snd thst worked ... Now this seems to be more of the samr FLUX was a start of where we could go ... But yet eek! Ill watch it because Doctor Who is my fave ....love thsr you brought Buffy up too its so influential .... Doctor Who needs to be the leader now not following
indeed, dr who needs to lead not follow, and hope Russel has realized this and makes dr who on disney a superior show on there by quality and being an outside stand alone with quality and it's own spin offs, rather than just trying to fit in.
@@The_Nordic_Doctor I mean .... Besides the fans watching it anyway HOW would those episodes we've just had appeal to new eyes?! The eleventh hour, the woman who fell to earth etc harnesses a huge audience and nailed it whilst still referring to what happened before and remained unique and not to bogged down with prior knowledge needed as such ...whereas we got three hours of nothing much happening followed by the start of the new era that very much is tied to those said specials ....it's not EXCITING new show it's ...tired sadly it needs new voices
yeah that trailer failed due to three words, alright. Black Time Lord.
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