Why do they never stick to one name for the Wicked Witch? In Wicked, her name is Elphaba, in Oz the Great and Powerful, her name is Theodora, and here, her name is Zelena. What's next?
+Arthus850 Each of those incarnations are copyrighted, they would get sued if they reused any of the names. The Wizard of Oz is in public domain through the original book, so anyone could still retell the story. There was also Bastinda in the Russian plagiarism and Evilene in The Wiz.
Jansci7G Not really. Just use different names. The Muppets' Wizard of Oz and Witches of Oz both used the unofficial names of the Witch of the North, Locasta and Tattypoo.
Revenge of Bcraig5 That is another debate. Some fans, myself included, prefer Locasta because it is the name Baum chose; others prefer Tattypoo because it is from the books, albeit ones published after Baum's death. Also, this discussion was about the Wicked Witch of the West, who does not have any original name.
Jansci7G Well, not in the sense of copyright like you said earlier, because 1. They DO use the names in different adaptations yet don't use/find ways around things form other adaptations like the Wicked Witch's skin color and the ruby slippers in the 1939 which are more widely known and popular and 2. The books and basically everything unrelated to the 1939 film is public domain so use can use it freely to an extent.
On second thought, I'm fine with Dorothy being a red herring. That subplot with Dorothy and Ruby was so bad, I didn't cringe at Bo Peep the warlord that much.
@@EtherealdjinnI honestly love the movie version too. Either way, this didn’t even look bad. The only cgi that looks “bad” is the crazy backgrounds and some certain creatures and stuff but that’s cause of their small budget. Either way idc. I just use my imagination.
She doesn't even throw the water onto the fire, she just straight up splashes it onto her dress like girl I get you're panicking but maybe try and aim better
well this is an adaptation. this is not wizard of oz. the title is called once upon a time not wizard of oz. rumple is considered as the beast in beauty and the beast and the crocodile in peter pan. so how does that make sense. why not get a real beast or crocodile? but lets be for real. if it aint something you can live with to watch then dont watch it
It’s kind of sad that they couldn’t use elphie and Fierro’s name but they could use Glenda and Dorothy’s name that doesn’t make any sense I mean yes it’s in the public domain but you shewill always be elphaba and I do not care what you say
The feud between Dorothy and Zelena is not over but left unfinished. Zelena still hates her as Hades revealed, all proving Zelena never redeemed like none of the other villains never fully changed either. This loose end will only end properly with one of them in a revival.
When i first watched this i laughed so loud when Dorothy said "It's just water!" 😂😂😂
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According to Chemistry, she's dissolving
According to life: stfu
Nope, it's melting then evaporation
@@azul1964 She's dissolving lol
Dorothy kinda looks like gypsy rose
The *witch is dead
That's because she is gypsy rose, are you blind or something?
In each witch episode of once apon a time the witch seems to be a different person every time.
Why do they never stick to one name for the Wicked Witch? In Wicked, her name is Elphaba, in Oz the Great and Powerful, her name is Theodora, and here, her name is Zelena. What's next?
Arthus850 She never had a name in the book so that's why.
+Arthus850 Each of those incarnations are copyrighted, they would get sued if they reused any of the names. The Wizard of Oz is in public domain through the original book, so anyone could still retell the story. There was also Bastinda in the Russian plagiarism and Evilene in The Wiz.
Jansci7G Not really. Just use different names. The Muppets' Wizard of Oz and Witches of Oz both used the unofficial names of the Witch of the North, Locasta and Tattypoo.
Revenge of Bcraig5 That is another debate. Some fans, myself included, prefer Locasta because it is the name Baum chose; others prefer Tattypoo because it is from the books, albeit ones published after Baum's death. Also, this discussion was about the Wicked Witch of the West, who does not have any original name.
Jansci7G Well, not in the sense of copyright like you said earlier, because 1. They DO use the names in different adaptations yet don't use/find ways around things form other adaptations like the Wicked Witch's skin color and the ruby slippers in the 1939 which are more widely known and popular and 2. The books and basically everything unrelated to the 1939 film is public domain so use can use it freely to an extent.
I don't really like what they did with Oz and Dorothy. We hardly see *any* of Oz, and Dorothy was relegated to little more than a red herring.
Well we're gonna see more oz and the battle between Zelena and adult Dorothy for oz in season 5b
Starrz are Dreamz You know this? How?
On second thought, I'm fine with Dorothy being a red herring. That subplot with Dorothy and Ruby was so bad, I didn't cringe at Bo Peep the warlord that much.
You'd think they could have done it a little better. It looks like someone had fun with the warp button on their computer.
See, this is what happens when fans are spoiled. Compared to the movie, this is a major upgrade with actual melting instead of sinking to the floor >>
@@EtherealdjinnI honestly love the movie version too. Either way, this didn’t even look bad. The only cgi that looks “bad” is the crazy backgrounds and some certain creatures and stuff but that’s cause of their small budget. Either way idc. I just use my imagination.
This scene was in one of my dreams
I'm glad that they actually put it the Witch melting and making her I just down
That explains so much
But Zelenas fireballs are green
Kaidan Abernathy they change I've noticed when she's angry they are green and when she shows being Wicked they are yellow...
@@geovannyz7238 how come you sopose she ever took a shower?
She doesn't even throw the water onto the fire, she just straight up splashes it onto her dress like girl I get you're panicking but maybe try and aim better
The Wicked Witch of the West is dead.
@@seanohearn6237 no
Way to go, QUAT. You successfully fucked up The Wizard of Oz.
They still didn't fuck this up as badly as they did with that AWFUL Ruby/Dorothy romance. Not even Bo Peep the Warlord made me cringe as much.
Ruben T how many times are you going to mention that? 😂😂
well this is an adaptation. this is not wizard of oz. the title is called once upon a time not wizard of oz. rumple is considered as the beast in beauty and the beast and the crocodile in peter pan. so how does that make sense. why not get a real beast or crocodile? but lets be for real. if it aint something you can live with to watch then dont watch it
@@Emper0rH0rde what was wrong with the ruby and dorothy romance?
@@Emper0rH0rde homophobic much?
You now the name Zelena comes from the macedonian word зелена which means green
She called her...green???
Doge Well, before she turned green, she did live in Oz and let's face it, that world is very green oriented.
One of the actresses who played Elphaba is called Teal.
What a shame they didn’t use these characters from the Wicked universe, it would have been so cool to see more of “Elphie, Glinda & Fiyero”
It’s kind of sad that they couldn’t use elphie and Fierro’s name but they could use Glenda and Dorothy’s name that doesn’t make any sense I mean yes it’s in the public domain but you shewill always be elphaba and I do not care what you say
Elphaba and Fiyero aren’t the characters real names though
I don't think they had the rights to that
@@moriahistoria714 Disney couldn’t even use the same shade of green makeup Margaret Hamilton used
Elphaba is good. Zelena wasn't, she was the true Wicked Witch, evil and wicked.
How is it possible that Zelena melts when Dorothy or someone else but mostly Dorothy throws water at her but then comes back to life?
Zelena is just pretending to make sure Dorothy goes away.
2:22 well, f@$k...
No she is already dead because of the water.
Wicked Witch And The West She Have A 3 Sisters
Daisy the Diesel Railcar as Zelena Mills
She melted way too quickly. It was realistic but it was too quick
That was a quick meltdown
So she can never bathe?
She was just pretending to make Dorothy go away from Oz lol
She is supposed to smell like sulfur
No, Elphaba!
No Zelena
@@l.r.5255 No, Theodora!
@@Julie86Mac how come u sopose she ever took a shower?
The feud between Dorothy and Zelena is not over but left unfinished. Zelena still hates her as Hades revealed, all proving Zelena never redeemed like none of the other villains never fully changed either. This loose end will only end properly with one of them in a revival.
How does the wicked witch have a name?!
What kind of substance is the witch made of????
sugar🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Zel bodied this word ( her nickname)
Baby just needed a shower
why the fuck did they give dorothy black hair lol
wished she said “what a world”
does she melt every time she takes a shower?
No, she just faked it
Rowan Blanchard
Good she deserved it
She just acted like she died
@@l.r.5255 how come u sopose she ever took a shower?
How the fuck did this show get 7 seasons? This shit is like something a high-school girl would dream up.
How was she not crying in pain from melting?
is that rowan blanchard
No really Blanchard is so stupid she would never act like this dorothys acting is so much better than hers
she sounds like her
henry and peter pan swiched body on Neveland is peter pan evil or good
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What movie is this called?
its the show Once Upon a Time
@@danielsouthern7920 she's dead u killed her.
Eveline
Don’t it doesn’t rain in Oz?
why is the Wicked Witch of the West afraid of water so much . it doesn't make sense . it's just water
Wtf She's not afraid of water
The wicked witch's soul is unclean, so water which is pure and thrown by and innocent pure girl will melt her.
@@rosering02 im melting.
@@rosering02 she did not yet bleed she was so wicked her blood dried up long ago.
@@rosering02 not water now look what you done u horrible little brat im melting.
I don’t think this is season 3
Its season 3B on the Oz arc
They can't act
zelena most def can act
Wft
What even was this show
so bad
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