Same I'm familiar with both but I haven't actually watched or seen the whole thing. Wicked is truly the fanfiction boss level cause look at that world building it's insane
I love it because now I’m obsessed with Fiyero but sad for his fortune that he was turned into a scarecrow for him to survive. It reminded me a little of _Turnip Head_ in _Howl’s Moving Castle_ when Sophie kissed him without knowing that he was the lost prince of the enemy kingdom where there was a magical war. But yeah, I also can relate to Elphaba. 😅
The first book of many. I would love to see some of the other books turned into musicals or movies. Princess Ozma/Tip's storyline would be so cool to see.
Correction: Wicked is a movie (2024) inspired by a brodway show (2003), inspired by a book(1995) inspired by a movie (1939) inspired by a musical ( the wizard of oz musical 1902) inspired by a book (1900)
I have a confession to make! I’ve seenThe Wizard of Oz dozens of times, but never Wicked the play and that story. I just know Kristen Chenowith and Idina Manzell were in it. However I saw it in theaters today! I give that movie a 10/10. It was good! I think it’s so cool that this movie was done on sound stage and was BUILT no CGI was made. Also Cynthia sang live when flying, her vocal coach and the director teamed up and her vocal coach taught breathing exercises to sing while flying in a harness! It’s the things you don’t know that makes this film even better and respect and appreciate.
Oh bullshit,,what not enough movies have black people in it so you whine boo hoo,,oz is crap compared to classic original,so is annie,,the original with the WHITE GIRL,,don't like my comments to fucking bad
The book "The Wizard of Oz" was written in 1900, the movie was released in in 1939 which is based off the book. The book "Wicked" was written by Gregory Maguire in 1995 and is a prequel of the the original book AND 1939 movie. The broadway show "Wicked" opened in 2003 and is loosely based on the 1995 Maguire book. The "Wicked" 2024 movie is based on the 2003 broadway musical which was based on the 1995 book , which was based on the 1900 book and 1939 movie. So overall everything is loosely tied together. Hope this makes sense :)
Well yeah Wicked is mostly what happened before the wizard of Oz but then ends in the present day wizard of Oz. It's kinda behind the scenes as it doesn't really show Dorothy or Glinda but focuses on Alphaba's "villain" arc, well her portrayed villain arc from her point of view where she isn't the villain at all
@@a.cdiamonds8370 tbh Im pretty sure Maguire never read the wizard of Oz and thats why it doesnt have any sense with the story but a little with the movie
Yeah, I'm gonna say NO. His 4 books are so gross with a lot of what he writes in his so-called fanfic books that literally pervert the original 14 books in the Wizard of Oz series by L Frank Baum.
I read a book in 2014 called "Dorothy Must Die" about Dorothy becoming an evil dictator. That's the great thing about the land of Oz, it is so whimsical and magical and has so many possibilities that it makes such a good setting.
I went to school with Marissa Bode, who plays Nessarose in the new Wicked adaptation. I didn’t know her personally but we always made small talk in passing. My roommate had classes with her and says that she was hilarious. I am so happy for her hehe
im SICK, I used to watch Wizard Of Oz as a kid and never really got into any of the Oz stuff as an adult. After seeing Wicked today I spiraled and had sooo many questions. This video had my jaw dropped omg omg omg
I saw the WoO with my 6yr old daughter before watching Wicked to help set the stage for her, and I’m glad I did. I forgot how great of a classic it is and it also helped me understand a lot of the symbolisms in some of the Wicked scenes.
Thank you! I saw many but your video is the only one that explained it so effortlessly. I appreciate you getting to the point and not making it so complicated!
thank you for connecting the two!! i've seen wizard of oz but not in a very long time and couldn't seem to find anywhere to watch, so this was very helpful!! thanks for your time. ❤
I dont get how Im very confused and impressed at once. I love that these timelines overlap but kinda confused about it lol. Now I gotta see both back to back.
This was helpful! I’ve never been able to make it through the wizard of oz but I loved the broadway wicked and the movie. Your video makes me wanna give the original film another chance though!
Thank you so much for this video! I haven't watched anything from this movie or "world" yet but I'm planning to watch "Wicked" sometime soon, so this helps! :)
Impressive informative video. Thanks very much for summarizing everything ppl need to know in just 10+minutes. I watched Wizard of Oz 20 years ago on TCM channel and there were many iconic scenes that I still remember to date. When I watched Wicked today, I saw some Easter eggs and there were so many details put into Wicked that people might not realize. From the beginning till the end, there were parts that reminds viewers of the classic from 1939. I wudn't have guessed the red heels were Elphaba sister's shining shoes. I got the Lion but Tin Man and Scarcrow too - wow.
And in the end of the 4th book, Glinda is freed from prison by a mysterious figure who is described as having green skin and she says to them "you wicked old thing what took you so long."
Yes she was. This is nothing more than fan fiction nonsense. No different than some guy named John Smith coming up with his own story based on oz and claiming the wicked witch is actually superman. It's nonsense
What's bizarre about all of this is that "Oz" is supposed to be Dorothy Gale's story. She's supposed to be the one who kills the wicked witches and saves the land from slavery and terror. But if you follow the logic of WICKED, Dorothy has no reason to exist. She didn't succeed in killing the Witch of the West - and not only that, she never would have had to in the first place, given that Elphaba was good all along. So, in retrospect, why was Dorothy the heroine of the original story?
She was more like a bystander or even a pawn in Wicked, being used by others for their own personal agenda (The tin man and lion, the munchkins, the wizard) without realizing it because she's just a lost kid trying to survive
@@SeasideDetective2To further manipulate her so that she would be easier to control. Dorothy spent the entire film fearing the "wicked" witch. Had Glinda not put into her head that the Western Witch was "bad", Dorothy might have actually spoken to her and had a conversation instead of blindly fearing her.
@@Rose_Bride idk about blindly fearing her. The Western Witch wanted to k!ll Dorothy to get the shoes back but also wanted to torment her first….so like…
Cool timeline! Thanks for explaining. I know the slippers were silver originally but they changed them for the technicolor film. I wish they had kept them red in the Wicked movie since that’s the association we all have in pop culture.
Even as a small child who loved the Wizard of Oz, I couldn't shake the opinion that the Wicked Witch of the West had a strong claim to the slippers she was the previous owner's next of kin. I read the novel when it was first published and when Elphaba is determined to take possession of the slippers, Glinda asks why and says, 'They won't make your father love you?'. Heartbreaking
Dorothy looks like Nessarose (Wicked Witch of the East) though (kinda), maybe she's the latter's real world counterpart/doppleganger/variant, that's why she inherited the slippers.
@chrysocolapteserythrocepha5915 Wow! I have to see the movie now (*right* now). In the book, Nessarose has no arms, and I wouldn't have made that connection. Your comment is a great twist for the movie!
no one is truly forgetting -- although it seems like we are forgetting -- that dorothy was dreaming the whole time. so is wicked a dream within a dream within a dream? are they all just experiencing inception?
the film wasn't initially supposed to end with it all being a dream -- after all, it's based on a series of books which establish that oz is indeed a real place. but the film studio who produced 'the wizard of oz' insisted that it end that way, because they were concerned that the american public at the time would not be able to conceive of a place as fantastical as oz being real. i don't know how true that actually would've been (surely in the 1930s people could still suspend their disbelief for a couple hours for the sake of enjoying a story?), but the team behind the film were told it couldn't go ahead at all unless they agreed to that condition. knowing this bit of context makes it easier to dismiss the whole dream plot as almost just not really being canon.
Its also explained in the books and musical that Glinda has to put on this front. Elphaba tells Glinda to not try and clear Elphabas name in fear that the people would turn on Glinda.
I saw it for a second time last night, and I thought I recognized the wizard voice , (which they conceal his face), when her mother cheats on her husband. Sounded like Jeff Goldblum !! And you just confirmed that for me!
Yea, they are seen because they are heading back to Oz because Dorothy just killed Elphaba. Then we go into the whole “no one mourns the wicked” number where at the end Glinda is asked about their friendship and she takes it back to when they were at Shiz. So the movie goes back in time before Elphaba is “dead”. So yes, they are seen in the beginning of the movie, because the movie starts at the end of what we see in Part 1.
I want to know on what time line of the story is the movie of "Oz, The Great and Powerful” like where is the China Glass Doll and the Monkey with wings? And Oz? And how it connected to the 3 witches Theodora, Glinda, and Evanora?
@Jacearcher27, The china village is in the Baum books, but all these movies are basically different universes from each other, just inspired by Baum in some way. (Wicked being from Gregory Maguire’s novel.)
I honestly see them as different universes due to being made by different companies. Wizard of Oz and Wicked are both made by Universal, while Oz the Great and Powerful was made by Disney.
When Elphaba sang if you care to find me look to the western sky her teeth were glowing white, and I cracked up so hard that everyone in the theater looked at me weirdly 😂
I have never seen the wizard of oz 😂 so this is very helpful. I saw wicked in the West End for my 18th birthday and had no idea it was based on the wizard of oz.
That is crazy to think that any random dream i have could have its own world and backstories. I guess thats how you just know everything somehow and whats going on in your dream no matter how random and when you were plopped in there.
Frank Baum actually wrote many books related to the Wizard of Oz, including one about the Tin Woodman. I read this book and it tells us about his backstory. His real name was Nick Chopper. When the Tin Woodman was human he was falling in love with a girl called Nimme Amee who was living the Wicked Witch of the West, he asked the witch for her hand in marriage and she said he could only marry Nimme Amee if he built the couple a home to live in. The Tin Woodman immediately got to work chopping wood, the witch took advantage of this and bewitched the Tin Woodmans axe. Each time he swung his axe it would slip and chop one of his limbs, each time this happend he went to his friend who was a tin smith and built him a tin limb each time. Eventualy he was a man of tin, but now that he didn’t have a heart he couldn’t love Nimme Amee anymore even though she adored his body of tin. So thats when the Tin Woodman sent off to get a heart, but as he was traveling it began to rain and he rusted in place. Thats when he met Dorothy and if you’ve seen the film or watched the movie you would know what happens next. This is not me correcting Wicked, this is just me telling the original tale of the Tin Woodman for those who wanted to know (I will say the whole thing with Boq becoming the scarecrow, and Fiyero becoming the Tin Woodman did infuriate me just a little bit).
Dorothy is just an innocent young girl from another world. She doesn’t know much about the complicated politics in Oz and is driven to defeat Elphaba in her desire to go home
I may have thought that the back story of Oz years ago was Wicked until Judy Garland arrived there . Like the cyclone , usually ends act 1 in Wicked and who was below the house before it landed ? Was it Nessarose or the Wicked Witch of the East ? That started act 2 .
the reason for the Red Shoes, is because MGM Copyright the Film Until 2025 every Adaption like the Red shoes are Copyrighted wich is why wicked has silver shoes as written in the Books which are not copyrighted Anymore.
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I'm so confused. I have seen the Wizard of Oz a gazillion times. It was shown every year near Xmas time. I just saw Wicked the movie. I just don't get it😢
But the question is this how should you watch these movies? Is it like this? The wicked The wicked 2 Oz Great and powerful The Wizard of Oz Returned to Oz Or is it some other way to watch them because the ones they are getting now is going to come out the following year from now so would this be the timeline or what would you think about the timeline will be? according to the film timeline or would Oz and great and powerful will that be the beginning of everything kind of sort of I would like to know if you can give me one
The wizard of oz was written be a teacher at West Point who told his students accross the Hudson in a big house lived a witch who came for lazy cadets. The final scene with flying monkeys had done wearing similar pants with the long grey lines like West Point cadets. I think one of the scenes was taken at the hotel Thayer West Point.
I hope after part 2 of Wicked is done, they will continue to make a complete timeline with the same casts. A proper prequel to the Wizard coming to Oz, the fate of the animals, the great drought and the harvest of the Nome King’s emeralds to build the emerald city. Remake of Dorothy’s tale with the perspective of Wicked. Expand on the death of Nessa and the actual witch of the North that gave the slippers to Dorothy. Leaving room for Glinda and Elphaba to be doing something else… Sequel (Return to Oz) With the Wizard gone, the Nome king invades to retrieve the emeralds. Writers need to make a choice. Either the scarecrow return to oversee Oz shortly before the invasion. Or he stayed with “her” instead but came to help the citizens during the invasion. Rather than turn to an ornament. The scarecrow could be in hiding after evacuating the kingdom. Hiding with her… who I hope Dorothy will finally meet and get to know the truth. Rather than just Dorothy alone, the entire cast could come together to free Oz.
That's the last thing we need. Dorothy will probably be a black queer from the hood and the movie will probably end with her and the wicked witch making out.
Not me growing up who confused Alice in Wonderland and Dorothy i couldn't tell which story was which😂😂😂 now the wicked.... i first thought wicked has something to do with Hocus Pocus... i never enjoyed any of this lol... will just watch the movie as is😂😂😂
I found out in the book the good witch of the north isn’t Glinda and she meets Dorothy and tells her to go to the wiz while Dorothy doesn’t meet Glinda which is actually the good witch of the south until the end in the movie they mixed the two while in the wiz and the novel the wizard it was always different
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This is the best explanation video. So many other videos were like an hour long and not even close to making the connections like this video does.
Wow tysm🥹
Thissss!!! I saw so many and they were long and so complicated and didn’t get to the point like this one does!
This is insane from someone who's never seen any form of wicked 😂I am so impressed
Same never seen wicked or wizard of Oz. Now I’m in a rabbit hole 😅
Welcome to the fandom!
Same I'm familiar with both but I haven't actually watched or seen the whole thing. Wicked is truly the fanfiction boss level cause look at that world building it's insane
I love it because now I’m obsessed with Fiyero but sad for his fortune that he was turned into a scarecrow for him to survive. It reminded me a little of _Turnip Head_ in _Howl’s Moving Castle_ when Sophie kissed him without knowing that he was the lost prince of the enemy kingdom where there was a magical war. But yeah, I also can relate to Elphaba. 😅
Facts cause I'm like 🧐😮
"So it's more of a love trapezium" got me CACKLING
Me too😂 thought I was the only one
😂😂😂😂
Ik its the best way to describe it
😂 Yeah never heard that before!
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Wicked is really just one big Fanfic😂
What was going to say!
The best fanfic ever
After reading Manacled….. I never want to experience another fanfic 🤣🤣🤣
100% lol
A whole trilogy of them
I once read a comment that says this
Wicked is a movie adaptation of a book, which was inspired by a movie, which was an adaptation of a book
Wicked is a movie, which was adapted from a Broadway Show, which was inspired by a book, which was inspired by a movie, which was inspired by a book.
The first book of many. I would love to see some of the other books turned into musicals or movies. Princess Ozma/Tip's storyline would be so cool to see.
Correction: Wicked is a movie (2024) inspired by a brodway show (2003), inspired by a book(1995) inspired by a movie (1939) inspired by a musical ( the wizard of oz musical 1902) inspired by a book (1900)
So what is the name of the FIRST cause ? The Ground Zero book that inspired ALL the other adaptations?
@@KatherineMosher There was movie of it before the 1939 version.
I have a confession to make! I’ve seenThe Wizard of Oz dozens of times, but never Wicked the play and that story. I just know Kristen Chenowith and Idina Manzell were in it.
However I saw it in theaters today! I give that movie a 10/10. It was good! I think it’s so cool that this movie was done on sound stage and was BUILT no CGI was made.
Also Cynthia sang live when flying, her vocal coach and the director teamed up and her vocal coach taught breathing exercises to sing while flying in a harness! It’s the things you don’t know that makes this film even better and respect and appreciate.
Oh bullshit,,what not enough movies have black people in it so you whine boo hoo,,oz is crap compared to classic original,so is annie,,the original with the WHITE GIRL,,don't like my comments to fucking bad
The book "The Wizard of Oz" was written in 1900, the movie was released in in 1939 which is based off the book. The book "Wicked" was written by Gregory Maguire in 1995 and is a prequel of the the original book AND 1939 movie. The broadway show "Wicked" opened in 2003 and is loosely based on the 1995 Maguire book. The "Wicked" 2024 movie is based on the 2003 broadway musical which was based on the 1995 book , which was based on the 1900 book and 1939 movie. So overall everything is loosely tied together. Hope this makes sense :)
Well yeah Wicked is mostly what happened before the wizard of Oz but then ends in the present day wizard of Oz. It's kinda behind the scenes as it doesn't really show Dorothy or Glinda but focuses on Alphaba's "villain" arc, well her portrayed villain arc from her point of view where she isn't the villain at all
Nope it’s fan fiction
@@a.cdiamonds8370 tbh Im pretty sure Maguire never read the wizard of Oz and thats why it doesnt have any sense with the story but a little with the movie
Yeah, I'm gonna say NO. His 4 books are so gross with a lot of what he writes in his so-called fanfic books that literally pervert the original 14 books in the Wizard of Oz series by L Frank Baum.
@@stephanie_smithDid you want to elaborate on that at all?
I read a book in 2014 called "Dorothy Must Die" about Dorothy becoming an evil dictator. That's the great thing about the land of Oz, it is so whimsical and magical and has so many possibilities that it makes such a good setting.
I read that whole story. It was sooooo good.
Those books were crazy!
I wish that would get adapted too!
@ oh! That would be awesome
@@nyx_018 yesss if they made a movie adaptation of it, sheesh. It would be crazy.
I went to school with Marissa Bode, who plays Nessarose in the new Wicked adaptation. I didn’t know her personally but we always made small talk in passing. My roommate had classes with her and says that she was hilarious. I am so happy for her hehe
For someone who never saw Wicked, this was PERFECT! Thank you so much! 🙏🏽💚
im SICK, I used to watch Wizard Of Oz as a kid and never really got into any of the Oz stuff as an adult. After seeing Wicked today I spiraled and had sooo many questions. This video had my jaw dropped omg omg omg
Literally me rn, I watched wicked an hour ago and came home to google this
This is elite level storytelling. Thank you!
I saw the WoO with my 6yr old daughter before watching Wicked to help set the stage for her, and I’m glad I did. I forgot how great of a classic it is and it also helped me understand a lot of the symbolisms in some of the Wicked scenes.
I agree on the "horror film for children" take on Return to Oz. That movie scared the crap out of me as a kid.
The things with wheels and jack
Ha ha ha! It scared me, too, but I still loved it!
Return to oz was the kids movie that my gran had on vhs. It got a lot of rewatches. Its even more traumatising watching as an adult 🤪
Thank you! I saw many but your video is the only one that explained it so effortlessly. I appreciate you getting to the point and not making it so complicated!
This had to have taken a long time to put all this together the visual fx and all. Well done and thank you!!!!!!
The Wicked movie is so emotional 😭
So is the show on Broadway 😊. I'm glad they made a movie though so other ppl can see and appreciate it
I just watched it and cried towards the end during Defying Gravity.
try watching the play !!
thank you for connecting the two!! i've seen wizard of oz but not in a very long time and couldn't seem to find anywhere to watch, so this was very helpful!! thanks for your time. ❤
I dont get how Im very confused and impressed at once. I love that these timelines overlap but kinda confused about it lol. Now I gotta see both back to back.
This makes so much more sense thank you 😅
Excellent explanation… but I had to watch it several times to fully comprehend..
Thank you for this timeline. I haven't watched any of the 2 movies yet so this is helpful guide. 😊
You have never seen the wizard of oz .? How
This was helpful! I’ve never been able to make it through the wizard of oz but I loved the broadway wicked and the movie. Your video makes me wanna give the original film another chance though!
Thank you so much for this video! I haven't watched anything from this movie or "world" yet but I'm planning to watch "Wicked" sometime soon, so this helps! :)
Everyone is wicked except elphaba fr
100%. I hated almost everyone in that movie but her.
Impressive informative video. Thanks very much for summarizing everything ppl need to know in just 10+minutes. I watched Wizard of Oz 20 years ago on TCM channel and there were many iconic scenes that I still remember to date.
When I watched Wicked today, I saw some Easter eggs and there were so many details put into Wicked that people might not realize. From the beginning till the end, there were parts that reminds viewers of the classic from 1939.
I wudn't have guessed the red heels were Elphaba sister's shining shoes. I got the Lion but Tin Man and Scarcrow too - wow.
YOU MEAN TO TELL ME THE WITCH WAS NEVER DEADDDD
No
And in the end of the 4th book, Glinda is freed from prison by a mysterious figure who is described as having green skin and she says to them "you wicked old thing what took you so long."
yes remember the two stories are related but its not a true prequel.
Yes she was. This is nothing more than fan fiction nonsense. No different than some guy named John Smith coming up with his own story based on oz and claiming the wicked witch is actually superman. It's nonsense
@ChrisNewman-z8o okay there buddy, calm down. She isn't dead in Wicked. No need to be a downer
Oh no I just spoiled myself for Wicked part 2 😂
Lmaoo me too I feel like I’ll still be surprised when I see it lol
Wicked was one of the best musical films of the 21st century!
and i thought wizzard of oz universe belongs in the fantasy genre....
What's bizarre about all of this is that "Oz" is supposed to be Dorothy Gale's story. She's supposed to be the one who kills the wicked witches and saves the land from slavery and terror. But if you follow the logic of WICKED, Dorothy has no reason to exist. She didn't succeed in killing the Witch of the West - and not only that, she never would have had to in the first place, given that Elphaba was good all along. So, in retrospect, why was Dorothy the heroine of the original story?
She was more like a bystander or even a pawn in Wicked, being used by others for their own personal agenda (The tin man and lion, the munchkins, the wizard) without realizing it because she's just a lost kid trying to survive
@@keylimepiee But there's more! If Glinda knew that ugliness wasn't a sign of badness, why did she tell Dorothy that?
@@SeasideDetective2To further manipulate her so that she would be easier to control. Dorothy spent the entire film fearing the "wicked" witch. Had Glinda not put into her head that the Western Witch was "bad", Dorothy might have actually spoken to her and had a conversation instead of blindly fearing her.
@@Rose_Bride idk about blindly fearing her. The Western Witch wanted to k!ll Dorothy to get the shoes back but also wanted to torment her first….so like…
@@pennisss9433 I mean, if I was under the assumption that someone murdered my sister and then stole her shoes, I would probably be livid as well
Cool timeline! Thanks for explaining. I know the slippers were silver originally but they changed them for the technicolor film. I wish they had kept them red in the Wicked movie since that’s the association we all have in pop culture.
I think they are copyrighted that’s why they did silver
they did add some red shoes though; Glinda shows them to Elphaba as an option when she sings "Popular" I thought that was kind of cute
@@wh0liI didn’t catch that
It's so freakin magical 😭 I love it so much ❤️
Even as a small child who loved the Wizard of Oz, I couldn't shake the opinion that the Wicked Witch of the West had a strong claim to the slippers she was the previous owner's next of kin. I read the novel when it was first published and when Elphaba is determined to take possession of the slippers, Glinda asks why and says, 'They won't make your father love you?'. Heartbreaking
It's fan fic. IT has nothing to do with L. Frank Baums work.
Dorothy looks like Nessarose (Wicked Witch of the East) though (kinda), maybe she's the latter's real world counterpart/doppleganger/variant, that's why she inherited the slippers.
@chrysocolapteserythrocepha5915 Wow! I have to see the movie now (*right* now). In the book, Nessarose has no arms, and I wouldn't have made that connection. Your comment is a great twist for the movie!
Thank you for making this. I think the connections between the two films is a beautiful aspect of this work.
I was searchingggg for a video like this a few days ago, the title verbatim is in my search history 😭 thank you so much
Please go see Wicked in the theaters. IMAX if possible. Oh my OZZZZZZ it’s unbelievable. 👏👏👏
I did and watched it 4 times! So good!
Im at 3:36 and not sure if i want to continue lol.... this is goooooood teaaaaaaaA😂
no one is truly forgetting -- although it seems like we are forgetting -- that dorothy was dreaming the whole time. so is wicked a dream within a dream within a dream? are they all just experiencing inception?
the film wasn't initially supposed to end with it all being a dream -- after all, it's based on a series of books which establish that oz is indeed a real place. but the film studio who produced 'the wizard of oz' insisted that it end that way, because they were concerned that the american public at the time would not be able to conceive of a place as fantastical as oz being real. i don't know how true that actually would've been (surely in the 1930s people could still suspend their disbelief for a couple hours for the sake of enjoying a story?), but the team behind the film were told it couldn't go ahead at all unless they agreed to that condition. knowing this bit of context makes it easier to dismiss the whole dream plot as almost just not really being canon.
6:34 its a very good movie but a terrible story of how they film it :( like the toxic snow in the poppy field
In Wizard of Oz, Glinda looks quite happy that Elphaba is dead. Their friendship must have gone south really quick
in wicked, glinda actually looked a bit bothered and like she wanted the whole “witch is dead” celebration to be over with
Its also explained in the books and musical that Glinda has to put on this front. Elphaba tells Glinda to not try and clear Elphabas name in fear that the people would turn on Glinda.
She's not actually dead
@@phillipisthebest26and she's holding her tears while saying goodness know when she burns it doesn't wanted to answer any questions
Glinda was most likely faking it
"Return to Oz" is one of my favorite movies of all time! It is so underappreciated.
I saw it for a second time last night, and I thought I recognized the wizard voice , (which they conceal his face), when her mother cheats on her husband. Sounded like Jeff Goldblum !! And you just confirmed that for me!
This is great. I haven't seen Wicked yet so had no idea who the Wicked Witch of the East was since Dorothy smashed her and Glenda snatched her shoes.
Well in the wizard of oz the wicked witch of the west does say that the wicked witch of the east is her sister so yeah
She says something like WHO KILLED MY SISTER or something
@@CookiemonsterElmoASMR Wrong, in the original story the Wicked witches are not sisters
So we just gonna ignore the fact that Dorothy and the others in the wizard of oz was shown at the start of the movie?
Yessss great point! Tinman, scarecrow and lion are workers in the family farm.
They were the workers when she came back from Oz it was basically a dream@@steel148
Yea, they are seen because they are heading back to Oz because Dorothy just killed Elphaba. Then we go into the whole “no one mourns the wicked” number where at the end Glinda is asked about their friendship and she takes it back to when they were at Shiz. So the movie goes back in time before Elphaba is “dead”. So yes, they are seen in the beginning of the movie, because the movie starts at the end of what we see in Part 1.
Because Oz is a dream in the 1939 movie (but real in the book it’s based upon).
The beginning of Wicked is after Dorothy gets her red slippers and goes to the City and the Glinda starts talking about the past.
I want to know on what time line of the story is the movie of "Oz, The Great and Powerful” like where is the China Glass Doll and the Monkey with wings? And Oz?
And how it connected to the 3 witches Theodora, Glinda, and Evanora?
right, like is this all happening in the same universe?
@@leafletanonI think they are different universes, elfaba isn't in Oz great and powerful I think
@Jacearcher27, The china village is in the Baum books, but all these movies are basically different universes from each other, just inspired by Baum in some way. (Wicked being from Gregory Maguire’s novel.)
I honestly see them as different universes due to being made by different companies. Wizard of Oz and Wicked are both made by Universal, while Oz the Great and Powerful was made by Disney.
@@RavenStarMedia _The Wizard of Oz_ was made by MGM. I really think they're all AUs to each other because the stories don't match, though.
So far, I understood the connection between two stories because of this video. 😊
Glad you brought up Return to Oz. I love that film!
When Elphaba sang if you care to find me look to the western sky her teeth were glowing white, and I cracked up so hard that everyone in the theater looked at me weirdly 😂
Are you 12?
I forgot nessarose was the Wicked Witch of the east! AND SHE DIED! 😭😭😭😭😭😭
I love this now I hope they remake the wizard of oz so we can see the 3rd POV 😩 it would be amazing
I have never seen the wizard of oz 😂 so this is very helpful. I saw wicked in the West End for my 18th birthday and had no idea it was based on the wizard of oz.
That is crazy to think that any random dream i have could have its own world and backstories. I guess thats how you just know everything somehow and whats going on in your dream no matter how random and when you were plopped in there.
Great video, im still lost tho lol
This now makes wicked make total sense thank u! .
Beautiful explained..your voice is so soothing to listen..hope u get to use it more like in audio books n all .best of wishes
Frank Baum actually wrote many books related to the Wizard of Oz, including one about the Tin Woodman. I read this book and it tells us about his backstory. His real name was Nick Chopper. When the Tin Woodman was human he was falling in love with a girl called Nimme Amee who was living the Wicked Witch of the West, he asked the witch for her hand in marriage and she said he could only marry Nimme Amee if he built the couple a home to live in. The Tin Woodman immediately got to work chopping wood, the witch took advantage of this and bewitched the Tin Woodmans axe. Each time he swung his axe it would slip and chop one of his limbs, each time this happend he went to his friend who was a tin smith and built him a tin limb each time. Eventualy he was a man of tin, but now that he didn’t have a heart he couldn’t love Nimme Amee anymore even though she adored his body of tin. So thats when the Tin Woodman sent off to get a heart, but as he was traveling it began to rain and he rusted in place. Thats when he met Dorothy and if you’ve seen the film or watched the movie you would know what happens next. This is not me correcting Wicked, this is just me telling the original tale of the Tin Woodman for those who wanted to know (I will say the whole thing with Boq becoming the scarecrow, and Fiyero becoming the Tin Woodman did infuriate me just a little bit).
I finally understand the story. Thank you
All im saying is Hollywood has a way to make evil look good and good look questionable. Classic
Possibly the best comment here. Thanks.
Dorothy is just an innocent young girl from another world. She doesn’t know much about the complicated politics in Oz and is driven to defeat Elphaba in her desire to go home
I may have thought that the back story of Oz years ago was Wicked until Judy Garland arrived there . Like the cyclone , usually ends act 1 in Wicked and who was below the house before it landed ? Was it Nessarose or the Wicked Witch of the East ? That started act 2 .
Someone needs to merge these two movies together so it all makes sense, i would love to see that
very interesting
You were right about the return to oz being horror for kids that freaked me out as a kid😭
3:13 and then there’s the fact that, in the book, Galinda and Elpheba had a thing too 😂😂
I'm guessing the writer of wicked was a pedophile
I never realized the tea was this HOT
This just blew my mind.
The connection is vocabulary, rituals, and tone. Connection with characterization whether its synchronization or picked attributes.
I watched Wicked today. I was intirgue how it came up the story the Wizard of Oz and Return of Oz i watch during my childhood 😊❤
the reason for the Red Shoes, is because MGM Copyright the Film Until 2025 every Adaption like the Red shoes are Copyrighted wich is why wicked has silver shoes as written in the Books which are not copyrighted Anymore.
Thank you! This video was very helpful.
i hope someday they make a movie that connect wizard of oz and wicked in the same timeline, movie 3 hrs long. i will watch that
Needed this fr 🤩
This is waaaaay more complicated than I thought it was going to be
someone please make a paragraph explaining it all again❤
3:10 love trapezium LOL
Great video 🎉🎉
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Chlorophyll... More like Bore-ophyll
I like prequels in the sense that it’s always interesting to see how the story gets reversed engineered and everything comes together.
I was born in 1994 in eastern Europe and used to watch Wizard of Oz on repeat. I had no idea the movie is this old :-o
A love trapezium! Ha! Im stealing this phrase
I find it sad that the cowardly lion doesn’t even know that the wicked witch actually saved him.
I'm still wondering how Dorothy are going to met the Coward Lion, Scarecrow (Fiyero) and Tin Man (Boq) in her/their way to kill Elphaba 😳
For this you have to rewatch the 1939 wizard of oz movie or they would have to make a reboot of the wizard of oz 😂
That's told in the original movie. I'm wondering more about how they got to where she found them.
I'm so confused. I have seen the Wizard of Oz a gazillion times. It was shown every year near Xmas time. I just saw Wicked the movie. I just don't get it😢
@@StaciSchuck you don’t get which part? How they became what they are in the wizard of oz or how Dorothy met them?
@@StaciSchuck Wicked has nothing to do with the Wizard of Oz.
But the question is this how should you watch these movies? Is it like this?
The wicked
The wicked 2
Oz Great and powerful
The Wizard of Oz
Returned to Oz
Or is it some other way to watch them because the ones they are getting now is going to come out the following year from now so would this be the timeline or what would you think about the timeline will be? according to the film timeline or would Oz and great and powerful will that be the beginning of everything kind of sort of I would like to know if you can give me one
Can't wait to watch part2
The wizard of oz was written be a teacher at West Point who told his students accross the Hudson in a big house lived a witch who came for lazy cadets. The final scene with flying monkeys had done wearing similar pants with the long grey lines like West Point cadets. I think one of the scenes was taken at the hotel Thayer West Point.
I hope after part 2 of Wicked is done, they will continue to make a complete timeline with the same casts.
A proper prequel to the Wizard coming to Oz, the fate of the animals, the great drought and the harvest of the Nome King’s emeralds to build the emerald city.
Remake of Dorothy’s tale with the perspective of Wicked. Expand on the death of Nessa and the actual witch of the North that gave the slippers to Dorothy.
Leaving room for Glinda and Elphaba to be doing something else…
Sequel (Return to Oz)
With the Wizard gone, the Nome king invades to retrieve the emeralds.
Writers need to make a choice. Either the scarecrow return to oversee Oz shortly before the invasion.
Or he stayed with “her” instead but came to help the citizens during the invasion.
Rather than turn to an ornament. The scarecrow could be in hiding after evacuating the kingdom.
Hiding with her… who I hope Dorothy will finally meet and get to know the truth.
Rather than just Dorothy alone, the entire cast could come together to free Oz.
That's the last thing we need. Dorothy will probably be a black queer from the hood and the movie will probably end with her and the wicked witch making out.
Very well said!!!!
Not me growing up who confused Alice in Wonderland and Dorothy i couldn't tell which story was which😂😂😂 now the wicked.... i first thought wicked has something to do with Hocus Pocus... i never enjoyed any of this lol... will just watch the movie as is😂😂😂
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There’s a scene at the start with a flyby or Dorothy and co on the yellow brick road 3:53
Wicked is the best I love you💖 wicked
so wicked is a movie adaptation of a broadway musical, which is inspired by a novel, inspired by a movie thats is inspired by book.
Great video. Can you please see what the connection is to Oz The Great & Powerful?
Different studio. That's Disney, Wicked and Wizard of Oz are Universal.
Random but I finally get “Emerald City” reference at the end of the movie Enough 😩😂😂😂
I just hate how no one will ever know the truth as to why Elphie actually did what she did and became “evil”. Like, I know it’s a film, but still
The Glinda and elphaba from the original are in this they sing about the grimmery
I found out in the book the good witch of the north isn’t Glinda and she meets Dorothy and tells her to go to the wiz while Dorothy doesn’t meet Glinda which is actually the good witch of the south until the end in the movie they mixed the two while in the wiz and the novel the wizard it was always different
Thank you for this video
We will definitely get a wizard of oz remake (3rd installment of wicked)!!! Honestly kinda looking forwards to it if they decide to do it
Omg this is crazy 😭✋