Krystal CRUSHES Saagar in Breaking Points Immigration Debate
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"They're not from here, they don't deserve anything" is a weird argument from a guy who thinks people who are from here also don't deserve anything
well, he is in favor of a much bigger social welfare state than normal republicans of previous eras. That doesn't stop him from being a piece of ...
'call me racist if you want'
5 minutes later: 'there not from here so they don't deserve anything '
Was less than 5 minutes lol
What's racist about that?
Full on mask off sociopathic racist and proud of it. He's never empathized with anyone. It's a bit terrifying that we don't have mechanisms to keep these types of people out of power but instead we fast track them into leadership roles.
@@NigelUltra It's racist because he also said "We need a racially cohesive country".
@@hanzohasashi4534 Thanks, but I wasn't asking you. Also, one thing being racist doesn't mean that you can just mention something else that was being said, and say that's racist. Also, saying you want a racially cohesive country isn't a racist statement. It's not saying anything about one race being inferior or superior to the other.
Why does Krystal, the superior being, not simply eat Saagar, the inferior one?
Thanks for making me snort my coffee thru my nose.
She simply has not realized her true power level.
Wokeness that is why
This is what the woke left has taken from us
👾 Perhaps they are saving that for sweeps. 😅
By Saagar’s own logic his parents do not deserve anything and shouldn’t be allowed to be here.
Unironically yes, the state has the power to decide who its in-group is and who the out-group is, and its only responsibility is to serve the in-group. Or in short, yes, he's not from here, he shouldn't have been here in the first place, and the fact he is, is beucase the state refused to do its job.
@@DeGreekDollmakerthe point is he's the out group by his own standards which is dumb
@@DeGreekDollmaker Why don't you just explicitly say "white ethnostate" instead of this "In group vs out group" bs?
@@jeremiahbarnes6313 Because it doesn't nessecerily have to be that.
To elaborate: there is US, and there is THEM. US and THEM can be distiguised by our culture, our ethnic group, our religion, our customs, our skin colour, etc.
There is no reified reason to pick one over the other, but there doesn't need to be one. It is my side, my group that I am born into or enter, and from which I pursue to serve its interests before the interests of outsiders.
It is postmodern reaction, that you don't need a good or justified reason to want to favour your side over the others.
Mind you, this is the background assumption of most of the world out side of the west. Ask a turkish/Armenian nationalist or an Islamist or any believer in Chinse culutral supremacy to play this soft western bullshit about tolerance and not favoring your own side and you'll see what they really think. Import too many of these people from the non-western world, and you become the non-western world.
@@DeGreekDollmaker I'm not a racist, sorry. I don't care about the skin color of someone else to decide federally wether or not some random brown person has a right to enter my country.
What about the Irish, Polish, German, Jewish, and Italian immigrants who came here, white af and were treated as "white n words" by racists who thought they were "dirty" and "less than" white Americans. We literally had "Irish need not apply" signs.
The "us" are people who care so much about tribalism and skin color they delude themselves in emotionally loaded language where they pathetically defend not allowing someone into their country because they're racist and solely because they're racist.
And also, I've had this talk with a crapton of racists (You're most likely white) and so far I've never heard an answer to this question. What's considered white? You're talking about race based tribalism instead of a national identity like what the romans did so you're obviously inexplicitly gesturing at white people, obviously. What's considered white?
I'm an immigrant. I immigrated from Wales to the US at the age of sixteen when my parents moved. My dad was programmers, granted, but my sibling (who was 11 at the time) didn't have any job skills, and my mum was a housewife who'd never been to college. We also came from one of the few regions of Wales where Welsh is still the primary language, so only my dad could really be considered "good" at speaking English.
Weird how even the most anti-immigration folks don't have an issue with us. It's almost like there's something... different about us and the people immigrating from Mexico.
It's the food that is different. It's too yummy all the way done in México
Drove me demented when I lived and worked in New Zealand that I was considered an 'expat' while my students, also living and working in New Zealand, were considered 'immigrants'. Two guesses what the difference was.
Idk mate, one of my coworkers got picked up by Immigration services while at work one day. He's a white dude from the UK. Detained him for a few months
I don't see what you're getting at sorry 🤷🏼
I'm sure you're joking right?@@stickjohnny
If this is what Saagar is saying on camera, imagine the insane shit this dude says when they're not in studio.
Especially when he's with other right-wing pundits.
@@seanwhitehall4652Especially if he is with other white people, oh wait...
Seeing as he is a big fan of Tucker Carlson, it’s not hard to imagine.
Oops, all slurs!!
@@hexcodeff6624 He's a long knife aficionado.
“Call me a racist if you want”
Brother this is some of the most blatant in your face racism that I’ve seen in a bit ☠️
The funny part is nobody said he was☠️. He knows what he's doing.
"Immigration bad" says the man, born from two Indian immigrants
*"Illegal immigration bad"
I mean, him being like this is basically the only good argument against immigration...
He's proof that assimilation works
Bro is jontron's neighbor
He's a spoiled little brat who took everything he got for granted!!!!
Saagar realizes that other anti-immigrant people think he doesn't belong here right
Not true. People do not want illegal immigration.
No.
Most anti immigration is just anti poor people with extra steps. Saagar is a DC insider so most of them couldn’t care less.
For me, a white person, saagar is the same as a Mexican immigrant, they are both non white. So it’s basically the same. It doesn’t matter to me that his parents are naturalized citizens.
If he had any idea what conservatives say when he leaves the room...
What Saager is missing when he talks about his parents and their masters degrees and professional everything is the US doesn't care about foreign degrees and professional credentials from a lot of countries. Even if you are a professional engineer in Canada you have to take the American professional engineer exam to be licensed here. It takes a lot to be a professional here if you've been educated somewhere else. Especially in countries where people have brown skin and names like Saager. The fact that he doesn't see the money that his parents had to pay is itself an example of how the American immigration system is racist is stunning.
You have to do that if you come from Northern Europe too. It’s more hyper American protectionist than racist. Vaush talked about this with the stupid libertarian “debunking universal healthcare is good” video.
You shouldn’t need a degree to come to America, morally it’s unethical to block refugees/asylum seekers and even from a self interest perspective, America needs “low skill” workers, not just people with professional degrees
@angelantayhua3096 And why would Americans feel the need to protect themselves from scary degrees by making foreigners prove their degree is actually earned? It doesn't have to be against brown people to be racist. The fact that we fear other countries degrees instead of forming actual bi-lateral agreements with institutions and governments IS a form of racism. We'd rather force you to redo in OUR schooling than to ever allow you to learn from "the other" who we think of as too dumb, poor, and underdeveloped to teach their own people. Even if you pass the test, it's not like you suddenly have an American degree... you can just practice in the US. How often do you think employers are turning down people because they learned from outside the country?
As a legal immigrant myself, most legal immigrants to America come from very privileged, pretty much top 1% backgrounds in their countries. Immigration is an extremely volatile and expensive process. It should be made easier both for legal and illegal immigrants
Is that Eilean Donan in your pic?
Saagar really thinks he's white huh
Like, given the chance, the right would kick him out too and he acts like they wouldn't lmao
They will save him for last
That’s every Indian living in the US
Immigrant Dave Ruben spotted
@@alexc8134not really . Indians overwhelmingly vote for democrats and 2nd generation indians are even more liberal . Wth are you talking about ?
@@VARMOT123 well Hindu nationalism is reaching Nazi levels of racism - especially towards Muslims- but yea its probably different for the diaspora.
That's so cute, Saagar thinks the fascists will pardon his skin tone if he acts like one of them
If he scrubs hard enough he thinks he'll fit in.
Saagar's racism is a core value of his.
@JG-MVI would say nativist
I'm native American & I see a brown man hating brown people. Bet his kids are a shade lighter than his parents.
@@angelantayhua3096I would say stfu and stop being pedantic. Jesus Christ y’all all got the ” tism “
It is. He’s bow tie jr.
does he know hes brown
I still can't get over the fact that an actual persons name is Krystal Ball.
😂😂😂😂
Saagar: "I don't care if it improves the economy; I still don't want to help!" 😭
Don’t you just love it when conservatives admit they are emotional cry babies that don’t actually care about improving society. It’s my favorite pass time.
Your statement sums up conservative mentality.
yeah he’s in his fee-fees
If the in-group cannot decide, even if it is 'good', to decline a deal, if its responsibility is to serve the out-group the moment it steps on its soil, is there much of a choice?
@@DeGreekDollmaker "serve the out-group"? you're not doing a very good job at this 'hide the ethnonationalism' game buddy
The part where sagar admits that his mom is ashamed of him being a fascist was very funny.
"Go back to where you came from, mom!"
"I was born here so I deserve everything, you were born in India and deserve nothing!"
Wonder if that's actually how he talks to her.
It’s quite sad actually 😢
Gotta hand it to Krystal for continuing to do this show, especially with all the right-wing trolls vilifying and degrading her in the comments sections of every BP video for no reason whatsoever.
I was an early supporter and then I realized the party turned into a CPAC Convention.
“Unsubscribe” ✅
Saagar previously justified isolationism by focusing on the economic benefits, but now when immigration is shown to provide economic benefits he changes his tune 🤔
Please stop calling not arming/trainig Ukrainians or not bombing Middle East country X “isolationism”I beg of you
It is. Isolationism is being against the idea of military alliances or foreign aid, or any foreign intervention @@donovan4222
@@donovan4222he doesn’t want to defend Taiwan. He wants more protectionist policies that bleed American money. And he does the whole “international laws aren’t real” bit. He’s a modern isolationist. Also arming Ukraine is good womp womp.
@@donovan4222"a policy of remaining apart from the affairs or interests of other groups, especially the political affairs of other countries."
That actually is what that is.
@@angelantayhua3096 “Defend Taiwan”
From what? No one attacked Taiwan, and if they did, why should the U.S. military empire be involved “defending” anything in the first place? Not sending military troops or weapons to Taiwan is what 99% of the world is already doing, do you think Spain or Ireland are “isolationist” because they aren’t arming/training proxy forces in Taiwan?
I know you think US foreign policy is good, the problem is you conflate not supporting US foreign policy with “isolationism.” You just take it as some kind of natural law of the universe that the U.S. has to control the world, and if you don’t think they should control the world, “that’s crazy isolationism!”
Sauger is not even close to being right when it comes to the world war one thing. There wasn't instances of dual loyalties or immigrants from Germany causing issues with the war effort. What he's talking about is how German immigrants were lynched in the streets for speaking German, because everyone in America was so f****** rampantly xenophobic, the traits that he is displaying now. That's why, where I live, all the Amish people say they speak Pennsylvania Dutch. Even though what they are speaking is German... They literally change the name of their language so they wouldn't it be persecuted by fellow Americans. He is just incredibly racist and has no idea what he's talking about, or he does and he's just misinforming his audience.
He’s a protectionist so yeah he is genuinely that stupid. I rather say he hates foreigners. You should see how he talks about Europe even when it just comes to food.
That's simply untrue.
It's called Pennsylvania Dutch because at the time of their arrival all Germanic speaking people were referred to as Dutch.
I live in Northeast Ohio, I live amongst the Amish, don't go making shit up.
@@grindcoreninja6527 this is true, literally talked about it in my AP US history class. And the reason why they called it Dutch was because they didn't want to be referred to as German. Because at the time there was a lot of anti-German sentiment. The Germans if you didn't know, fought for the British during the revolutionary war and the war of 1812. Then a lot of German immigrants came in, in that created a lot of xenophobia towards them. So they called themselves Dutch. That's why they called themselves Dutch, because of the anti-German sentiment my dude.... You're literally proving my point. They weren't known as Dutch. They were calling themselves Dutch to reduce the xenophobic attitude toward them. Literally there's a writing in George Washington's journal talking about the "swarthy Germans coming in and taking land and jobs from native born American Englishman." Don't come at me saying I'm making stuff up when you don't know what you're talking about. Everything that I just cited can be backed up through the historical record. Just because the Amish say something happened doesn't mean it's true. So many people do not know their own history. By the way, I live around Amish people too.
You're correct. I live in PA. The Pennsylvania Dutch are Germanic people.
Saagar doesn’t realise that most of the people who share his view would also share the opinion that he doesn’t belong in this country.
Bullshit. Explain Vivek Ramaswamy
People simply do not want illegal immigration.
@@estivel15correct me if I’m wrong but Vivek got like 4% of the gop vote even though he just parroted what trump said. Maybe there’s a reason that conservatives were predisposed to dislike him. Skin color perhaps?
@Fushigiballs6969 No dude. Why would they vote for the guy that sounds like Trump when they can vote for Trump himself? He's on the race.
@@estivel15 I’m sorry is Vivek still in the race? Was he even a serious contender?
@@estivel15 "Bullshit. Explain Vivek Ramaswamy"
hes a cringe ass pick-me yes man
simple explanation
I literally (not figuratively, literally) spit out my drink when Sagar defended 19th century nativism and xenophobia against the Irish and Germans. "Mask off" is an understatement.
I knew I was going to disagree with him but I'm honestly just disappointed by how lazy he was.
It's so weird for someone called "Saager" be anti immigration and say this is a land of opportunity for people born here. When did your family arrive dude? Have some perspective.
People will accept Italians after what we did to Jesus Christ but good Christians seeking a life better than El Salvador are the real problem apparently
“And people who live here… or obtained residence”
@@angelantayhua3096and people that got their country destabilized by the United state ?
Do you really expect them to just stay in their country and get buttfk
@@angelantayhua3096Funny how they say that and then turn around and try to completely destroy ANY pathway to citizenship. Just admit it, you don't like brown people. Not hard to do.
@@alexc8134No, I’m saying what Saagar also said to better address his entire claim. I support immigration because most of the countries in Latin America are sh*t because of their own corrupt government and elite class culture. Everyone is either a neoliberal that robs the tax payers, a populist who robs tax payers, or a wannabe dictator who robs tax payers, working with career congressman who want no change to the status quo and rob tax payers.
Crushing Sagar is not hard. His morals are as firm as tinfoil.
'just because it exists, doesn't mean it's good' wow, saagar, that's pretty woke
It's so refreshing to see somebody just calling a spade a spade. Too often people sugarcoat this kind of stuff. Like Vaush said, this guy is just racist and a fascist, period.
If you want change conservatives minds then you also say his arguments are unfounded factually, more violently xenophobic than racist, and his solutions don’t even work.
@@angelantayhua3096 You can't change the minds of conservatives. They're in all in a cult.
It’s astounding to see Saager dismiss the plight of Latin American migrants who come from nothing while expecting people to feel deeply for his PHD parents.
Conservatives hate poor people. They expect others to sympathize more with “they did it the right way” no matter the internal system .
Saager's parents did not break the law to come here, while illegal migrants have
@@DieNibelungenliad And that’s relevant to what I said how?
@civilengineer3349 Try again. Saagar himself admitted that he thinks legal immigration should be stopped as well should this whole talk about legality is completely irrelevant. I wish people would save themselves and their interlocutors the trouble by correcting their own arguments and reducing them to their actual substance instead of focusing on the irrelevant fluff. The vast majority of arguments Saagar brought up against immigration could be made against his own immigrant parents.
@@a_random_voice_in_the_void the Latin American migrants in this context are illegal
Ugh is this what politics is? One is trying to make reasonable arguments while the other is just unapologetically a fascist?
Unfortunately that seems to be the case more and more, I worry for the future of this country and the world in general 😭😖😣😭
I like the bit where he basically says outright "citizens of other countries are responsible for their own countries problems, even when those problems are directly caused by the U.S, who is not responsible for anything"
This is like a high school bully saying "Did I take your lunch money? Sure! But that's not my problem. Deal with your own problems "
Yeah, that's just blatant evil.
4:29 that cancer point is f***ing perfect Vaush. Thats my go-to argument now. "There wasnt a cure for me, why should anyone get 1?"💯💯
Absolutely agree! Works for almost all the gop rhetoric against student loan relief, immigration processes etc
Conservatives will actively make their own life harder to keep other people's lives harder.
"We can't allow the world to be made better because people in the past had it bad" is one of the worst arguments imaginable and so easy to effortlessly destroy tbh. The kind of brainrot that passes for conservative logic is ridiculous.
Democrat: "Scientific studies prove that controlled immigration is good."
Republicans: "But I FEEL that any immigration is bad."
Normal People: "Well I guess it's a he-said she-said. Both are right and both are wrong. Hyuck."
We are ALL fucked.
True. But we should stress we want controlled immigration. Anyone who wants it should be on our side not conservatives. I’m tired with leftists implicitly agreeing we “pro open borders”
@@angelantayhua3096"Open borders to refugees from countries in which the US destabilized at least one governmental regime"
@@angelantayhua3096Open borders is one of the few things I disagree with TJ on, every nation has a right to protect its borders.
That being said, I think we should have a modern equivalent to Ellis Island.
@grindcoreninja6527 This "every nation has a right to this or to that" line is such a moronic thought-terminating cliche. No it doesn't, unless the outcomes are meaningfully beneficial. Nations have no inherent rights or value.
@@angelantayhua3096Why? Make an argument.
Love how Saagar jumped between "It's not fair because my parents had to work to get here" and "Life's not fair they don't have a right to be here" whenever his points were dismantled.
Saagar "pullin' up the ladder" Enjeti
"For the next 40-50 we had very little immigration" It's almost like there we some MASSIVE WORLDWIDE events occurring that maybe prevented immigration from occurring between 1900-1950. Just a thought
Yeah, I think it was bc when the Titanic sank, people were afraid to be on ships, so they stopped migrating. That really shook the world for 40 years. /s
Ww2 drove a lot of immigrants actually we just turned a lot of them away for national security reasons
Just a reminder, the USA deported millions of Mexicans under FDR to help US farmers, back when the American Government actually cared for legacy americans instead of importing millions of 'Americans'
That’s…that’s the opposite of why. Like, the World Wars actually pushed more people to migrate.
The real reason American immigration numbers dropped in the first half of the twentieth century was due mostly to racist laws restricting the number and ethnicities of who we allowed.
Idk how she stands even having conversations with this dude. 90% of his takes are god awful and the other 10% only view issues based on economic completely disregarding the human factor.
Because he has DC insider connections and to this date is most reasonable right wing commentator which isn’t saying a lot but still.
I think it's great for these two to have a conversation.
The way she handles the conversation doesn't give any room for people who would agree with her to take Saagar's side.
@@hexcodeff6624 That's not the point. Having a show with him is implicitly supporting him. There's responsible platforming, and then there's just presenting fascist and non-fascists as two sides that should be equally considered in these discussions.
@@scoutbane1651 As long as the fascist side outweighs the leftist side in audience numbers, that is appropriate, sadly.
I am not very involved in this, but as far as I can tell, it's Krystal that is being platformed, not Saagar, and it's him who could always get another leftist co-host if he wanted to, while Krystal would have a much harder time finding someone of that prominence to have a show with.
@@hexcodeff6624 "As long as the fascist side outweighs the leftist side in audience numbers, that is appropriate, sadly."
WHAT?!
My great grandparents came here when my grandma was born. Never left. Never got hassled for being "illegals" in the USA. They were white and from Canada.
*4:17** "I actually don't support legalizing Immergrants."*
So Saagar supports not having a system that allows you to legally enter the United States? Ain't he an Immergrant himself?
The venn diagram between people who are anti-immigration and hypocrites is basically a circle
Disclaimer: I don't actually agree with him in the slightest.
He doesn't want zero immigration. He wants potential immigrants to go through lengthy and costly processes to weed out the undesirables before they even ever step foot in the country. And he wants anyone who even attempts illegal immigration to be deported and barred for life from trying even the legal way. Because illegal immigration is a crime and we don't give visas to foreign criminals. They are not "their best people".
His parents were immigrants he was born here. He does say his mother disagrees with him.
Unironically yes, the state has the power to decide who its in-group is and who the out-group is, and its only responsibility is to serve the in-group. Or in short, yes, he's not from here, he shouldn't have been here in the first place, and the fact he is, is beucase the state refused to do its job.
He thinks he's white. As a brown person myself, I know many brown people who think like him.
Are we surprised? Saagar has never struck me as overly intelligent. Like many of the right wing talking heads, some are very articulate speakers, but their fancy speech is lacking in logic and/or a purposeful attempt to push an agenda over sticking to the facts.
You can't be a right winger and be overly intelligent. Mutually exclusive
Word salad
Yeah, he doesn't seem that bright to me. And that's fine. He can be stupid on his own time. But his viewers expect him to have some intelligence. He doesn't.
It's not fair to walk in illegally and just get papers
::Cubans have entered the chat::
😂
Saagar's "We need a racially cohesive country" line is something you'd hear from a Nick Fuentes rant.
“They can fix their own problems by voting for different leaders.”
Uh, Americans can’t even do that.
Vaush's arguments here really show just how xenophobic the mind of the average person is.
Like, I never even thought about how most supposed problems with higher immigration rates should be analogous to higher birth rates.
That I had that be pointed out for me to realize is indicative of a xenophobic bias.
Not sure I understand what you are saying? Are you saying vaush is xenophobic or the people disagreeing with his points?
@@smada9711I'm saying I myself have a xenophobic bias, otherwise I would never have differentiated between newborns growing up and immigrants.
But yes, most people who argue against immigration, which isn't me, are xenophobic.
To be fair, they're not directly analogous because people born in America *are born* and immigrants are often fully grown adults ready to work, but that's actually another point in the coffin for anti-immigration stances because it means the immigrants don't spend 18 years as a dependent.
Typical pick me behaviour. My parents are the same. „We‘re the GOOD immigrants, the right wing party would never kick us out, they’re only after the BAD ones.“
The cringiest thing about this isn't that he's being selective enough to use arguments that can't be applied to his parents. Most of the arguments could be leveled against his parents, "if your country sucks it's your responsibility to fix it" being a primary example
Florida and Texas don’t have a state income tax, they make most of their money on sales taxes which everyone has to pay. So wouldn’t that mean undocumented immigrants pay high of an effective state tax rate if not higher than anyone else, while not benefiting from it as much?
Correct.
Absolutely, but I don't think the racists care about facts and logic.
Sorry in advance for the rant. There is nothing I hate more than anti immigrant reasoning. All of data and common sense points to immigration being good for a country. Yet I see this shit everywhere. In Sweden there is a huge problem with anti Islam racism. I see well paid, high up politicians spout straight racism about immigrants that are specifically Arabic. “Every other immigrant is fine but not the Arabs”. WHY!? Politicians will lie and stick to conspiracy theories to justify brutal legislation that serves only to hurt immigrants (and poor ppl get caught in the crossfire). Shits dumb. Spread love not hate
Tbf there is a massive crime issue within certain areas of those communities. It obviously shouldn't be blamed on race though but socio economic and cultural teething issues.
Swedish politicians are right to want to fix or call out these issues but they're obviously doing it for the wrong reasons. Same thing in the UK here. As soon as the spirit of windrush ended, gang culture immediately started to become prevalent in deprived areas.
Also Ironically our PM, Rishi sunak and former cabinet minister suella braverman are both massively anti immigration.
IMO because both sides have become too fearful of engaging in a rational discussion about immigration. Those on the right are unwilling to say "some immigration good" because it would have to go against the sort of nationalistic sentiments often found on the right in most countries, and those on the left, are unwilling to say "immigration good BUT within limits" because they dont want to get dragged into conversations that will essentially separate immigrants into the "worthy vs unworthy". Hence, we get both extremes that do nothing but infuriate the other side, and the whole topic becomes irreconcilable, with no hope of finding a sensible position, and instead causing dramatic swings of policy as power changes hands.
But they afe religious extremists that hurt lgbt rights, it's written into their dna, But also drag queens are corrupting/grooming the youth with their agenda... smh.
How do people not see through this shit.
@@RHLWIMO, the left does not have to always preface what they are saying with "We don't literally mean the whole world should come." We are not even close to the point where to many are coming, placing such emphasis on it is stupid.
Also I hate how immigration is seen as a national issue and not an international one. But I guess this will be the case as long as the modern nation-state prevails.
@@adamlagerqvist8111 I would agree that they dont have to preface it such EXCEPT, theres no meaningful qualifier offered at any point generally. Nothing about numbers, or limits, or work skills, or language requirements... They dance around never committing to anything that would serve as a limiting factor, and thus either appear to either not believe in any kind of "limiting qualification", or leave themselves open to attack from the right who claim they "want unlimited numbers", only to then fumble any defence against such an accusation.
Saagar does the same faux-populist grift as Vivek he's just less blatant about the fact he's grifting.
Wow, I honestly though Vaush's distain for Sagar was exaggerated, but I guess I just hadn't seen enough. What a disgusting person.
22:00 “we do not relate to one another whatsoever.”
No, Saagar, you don’t relate to the working class. You know, the people who actually make money for the country. We relate to eachother fine.
Saagar Enjeti, Vivek Ramaswamy, Nimarata 'Nikki' Haley, Dinesh D'Souza... All these first generation Indian-American right wing ghouls. India definitely isn't sending their best.
He thinks he's white. As a brown person myself, I know many brown people who think like him.
They came from elite rich families that came over here. They were already conservatives.
@@briannelson27 Being rich doesn't mean you support Trump or even have to be a conservative but yes, Saagar is a POS!
Saagar: I don't care if poor people are suffering, if they're not already American.
Not caring is not a point in refutation of immigration good. You WANT them not to come.
Saagar is really revealing his racism power level today
when my great grandfather and his siblings were fleeing the holocaust, they didnt have enough money for all of them to come to the US so my great grandfather came and built a business and was able to send money back to latvia to help his siblings come over one by one. being against remitence is so crazy. saves lives fr
Saagar is a pick-me idiot with no self-awareness.
I'm not sure if this is racism, a ''fuck you, got mine'' attitude, or a mix of both.
I know just replying "yes." is cutesy and played-out. But.... yes
Racism largely stems from “fuck you, got mine” attitude so yes yes it does
Both.
Wow, Saagar is a complete ghoul.
Yeah, but being a ghoul is super popular and well received by people broadly.
@@viewsandratesSadly yes
@@viewsandrates I for one am fairly optimistic about this. The people who responds well to Sagaar's talking point are more numerous than they were before, because republicans have gone from despicable to actually insane this last decade, but overall they are a dwindling minority. They make up only a third of the country. The broader public is disgusted by their ideas, especially the younger generations.
The "silent" majority is moving away from republicans, time is running short for the GOP.
I bet his mother is pissed she came to this country, worked her ass off and sacrificed everything in order for her son to get indoctrinated by Tucker Carlson.
Sounds like the American dream to me!
Between the Henry Kissinger comments, the denial about whether the events in Gaza constitute as an ethnic cleansing, and this debate among other things. Saagar has been pissing me off more and more lately. It’s just wild (though probably not surprising) how insane and how often the comments on their channel going after Krystal are.
I would bet Sagar is like Uncle Ruckus everytime he seems himself in the mirror "WHY LORD, WHY?!!!"
Saggar was told, "he was one of the good one's".
He thinks he's white. As a brown person myself, I know many brown people who think like him.
It seems like Kyle was the first guy I history to say “I can fix her” and succeed.
By the way, Vaush vs Saagar debate when?
Just ask the UK how rejecting low-skilled immigrant workers turned out! Now the whole of Europe is suffering from the lemon curd shortage 😩
Saagar has had so much work done he looks unrecognizable at this point from how he was only a few years ago.
I agree with Saager. We should deport Saager.
I can't wait until someone tells him HE doesn't look like he belongs here.
3:15 mask is right off
"It's a philosophical difference..."
my dog heard that whistle all the way at home...
My great grandfather came to the US from germany right around the start of the first world war, and he fully supported the US.
Then his son (my grandfather) fought in WW2.
Largely agree with what you're saying, Vaush. But it's also the classic "My parents waited in line, thus everyone else must, too." bs. As if everyone is waiting in an incredibly short line, and just a bare minimum of patience will ultimately net a family citizenship.
And also “the line” is not the same line structured 2 decades ago and that has nothing to do with refugees. Conservatives unironically don’t understand how government systems works.
Did sagaar look into the mirror before acting this racist?
He doesn’t seem to realise that the people he’s supporting would like to kick him out of the country as well…
@@deanlowdon8381Sagaar seems to be under the impression that his parents having gotten PHDs makes them more deserving of being in the country than anyone else. As well as by birthright of that fact and his own being born an American that he is just like all the other right wingers with these views and that he simply is an American and that's enough to not be on the firing line alongside everyone else they don't like. Which. Is. Stupid.
You know Krystal did a good job in this one because the comments are mostly against her
That’s Breaking Points in general. They try to paint themselves as a balanced outlet but it is about 80% right wingers that watch it. It’s basically Fox’s The Five if you got rid of 3 of the people.
@Downphoenix In their very early days the audience was progressive. It was during the primary where both of them would bash Biden and then Krystal would say 'and that's why I'm supporting Bernie' and Saagar would nervously laugh and go back to bashing other dems (but never Bernie). It came as a shock to many people when Saagar made it clear that he's a republican but after Bernie lost, the show became more and more right wing
@@leikfroakiesI’d argue most shows after Bernie lost became either right wing or doomers. The united online left basically died in 2020 only after the mid terms have various channels rallied against conservatives specifically.
@@leikfroakiesAny BP viewer who watched any of his rhetoric when those two were on The Hill and still didn’t realise he was a far Right Republican had their head up their arse. Ten minutes of watching the first episode of BP’s made that obvious. And the audience was never mostly Progressive, what a ridiculous thing to say. They just weren’t so blatantly Rightwing
@zachariahwade8482 You're just wrong on this. By the time BP came around the audience was right wing but in the very beginning of rising, Saagar never had the chance to insert any right wing beliefs because they mainly covered the primaries.
The format would be that they'd both spend time attacking the dems for being useless and vapid but Krystal would then promote Bernie and Saagar was too smart to challenge her on that. The shift happened when Bernie lost and the focus really was just purely anti-Biden. That's when the right wingers started to come in
The whole "immigrating was hard for my parents so it's not fair to make it easier now" argument is completely insane. It's like arguing that ending slavery was unfair to those who already lived and died under slavery.
It’s always funny hearing republicans talk about “fairness”
He really does sound like a Disney villain, talking about street urchins in poor countries, like he's planning on killing Aladdin.
Sagaar after his fascist friends win: WhAt ArE YoU DoInG?
All of them as they blindfold him: Giving you your reward. Your ETERNAL reward.
Immigration isn’t a real issue. Race is. Just look at their opinion on Barack HUSSEIN Obama. Liberals and leftists shouldn’t waste time debating conservatives on an issue that neither side cares about.
Saager is like “what would Tucker say?” and that’s always his default position
Saagar: my source is... I made it the fck up!
What I’ve found after talking to numerous legal immigrants is that when they say “it was very difficult for us to become citizens” they mean they paid a lot of money to get in.
Cool how Saager has the same politics as the bad guy from Gangs of New York, really cool.
Saager should take out one if his own eyes and put in some crazy 1776 ivory prosthetic thing tho, otherwise it's just a knockoff schtick.
what happened to "the birthrate is too low omg?!"
Normies realized how it's just Great Replacement of the White's. Bs
Immigration isn’t a permanent solution as second and third generation immigrants have kids at the same rate as other Americans. The right also doesn’t care about birth rates; they care about the idea of nuclear family unit.
That always meant White birthrate.
Saagar being like “I don’t support a pathway to citizenship cause mommy had it tougher”
Kyle Kulinski has been a great influence for Krystal, she's been way more based since they are together!
I ship them together
Saagar reminded me of a conversation I had with a friend in college who came to the US as a young kid from India. She once told me "immigrants should stop coming to the US" and I said "but you're from India" and she responded "especially the Indians!!!"
Saagar's take is Replicanism in a nutshell. "Hey bud, how'd you get up in that tree?" "Oh the ladder?, I pulled it up behind me."
“My parents had to work hard to give me a good life, so now I’m working hard to make sure no young immigrant parents have the opportunity to do that.”
The bottom line is that the anti immigrant position isn't based on facts. It's only based on "I don't like those people." The point isn't to convince Saagar but to inform the audience.
Saagar believes citizenship is solely a meritocratic ladder. What a ghoul.
Conservatives believe everything in society is solely a meritocratic ladder.
my dad always tries to tell me that immigrants come here and are immediately put on welfare. like idk about that one bro
Has the same energy as illegal immigrants are voting.
If Saagar was principled he would deport himself since he thinks neither of his parents belong here ✌️😎
56:10 literally I got mine mentally
I find it interesting that if saagar gets his way with immigration policy eventually those same forces will come for people like him next. And on and on and on until there are only what they perceive as pure. It’s nazism at its core
Always amazing to see a brown person that has clearly benefited from immigration vehemently opposed to immigration.
absolutely love how immigrants are supposedly lowering wages ...in minimum wage jobs
Even Charlie Kirk....CHARLIE KIRK thinks every international student visa should come with a green card application. He said that ON STAGE. Why because the other country raised that person for free.
More people means more productive capacity, more innovation, more advancement.
Saagar projects his sociopathy, saying that "we" can't relate to people who aren't citizens and vice versa. No bro, that's a you thing.
Saagar: "There is so much wrong in this world that I cant' fix that I want to actively oppose fixing the wrongs that we CAN fix".
Flawless logic, truly impeccable.
I didn't get my immigrants in your America, you got your America in my immigrants.
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That sounded better in my head...
If an argument starts with the "I suffered so other people should have too" immediately no. Not worth my time or patience
What do you expect from a dude that fawns over Joe Rogan.
"they are not from here they don't deserve anything" is so fucking vile
Friendship ended with Ethan. Now Krystal Ball is my new best friend.
Is it just coincidence that anti-immigration rhetoric is also always incredibly dehumanizing rhetoric? I try to hear out a conservative argument but your mind literally has to detach people from being actual humans to agree with their beliefs.
Saager is not a leftist, non of his views amount to that, He's weirdly anti marijuana, Anti immigration. He's always been insufferable to listen to.
He's not supposed to be, that's the whole point of the show to not just have a usual circle jerk or a bubble
@@NJ-wb1cz the comments section says a lot different. lot of right wing nonsense
@@KingJT80that’s because “populist unity” isn’t real. Populists are just conservatives who hate rich people as much as they hate foreigners and foreign governments.
@@KingJT80 this actually reflects better on them. It hints that right wingers may handle a show better where someone disagrees with them
@@NJ-wb1czMore like right wingers range from insufferable to harassment/intimidation/threats when you disagree with them too hard
I kept thinking Vaush was saying Saagar and Jenny. I was wondering who Jenny is, I finally realized his full name is Saagar Enjeti.