It's really sad to see what's happening to the state. I do understand that people want to move here, but I wish they would do it by getting local jobs and living as "normal" Montanans, not coming in and buying the locals out. We're always hoping for a really bad few years of winter to test the longevity of the newcomers.
I remember when there was undeveloped land between Darby, Hamilton, Corvallis, Victor, Stevensville, Florence and Missoula. Nine years ago my father came to visit and insisted on seeing that stretch because his parents had lived and passed away in Hamilton. I tried to talk him out of it but we did the road trip anyway. It had been at least 12 years since he saw it and boy was he disappointed. He was blown away because he couldn’t tell where one town ended and the other started. People leave the big cities for small towns only to make small towns into big cities. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some think that stretch is beautiful and others believe the beauty and heritage of Montana small town and country has and is being destroyed. Me? I just keep moving away trying to find those undesirable small towns with nothing to offer but good people who love the slow pace of living.
Partly Yellowstone and the other part the pandemic. People are starting to realize living in the big cities ain’t all it’s cracked up to be and looking for places like Montana to escape to. The problem is when you import big city money into smaller places, all of a sudden the locals can’t afford to live there anymore. And this is becoming a problem pretty much everywhere. So yeah, a lot like the theme of Yellowstone ironically enough 🫠
Depends. If people own already and rates are locked they will be ok. Their property will go up in value which is good. But what do they do with it if they are gonna stay and die there. Will taxes and simple necessities go up so high they cant afford to stay. Gentrification can benefit property owners but then the builders get greedy and see opportunity to start turning gods country into housing communities and suburbs. Theres good and bad. If i had enough liquid and overhead I would love have a survival homestead type of location in the middle of nowhere but the cost of supplies tools and property it will never happen unless I win the lottery
I live in Darby and I'm glad that clown show is gone. I think it presented a bad image of how we live here. It gave this area a little more attention than we really needed. Everybody flocked here to see were it was filmed. Idiots parked in the highway to take their pictures in front of the gate to the ranch. The traffic from the hundreds of people and trucks on the highway from filming was crazy. It drove rents up for housing. My property value went up but so did my property taxes. I knew a few people that moved here because they watched the show. They have all left because this place is not as glamorous as the show made it seem. In the end I don't think the average person benefited at all from the show being filmed here. I do like how you represent our state in bringing out the real truth about living here. Thank you.
My girlfriend and I took a month-long road trip out West from Maryland a few months ago. We wanted to see Montana but had no interest in getting caught up in the Yellowstone/Western Montana hysteria. We entered the state from the eastern border and enjoyed a few days there. Yes, it was flat and unassuming, but we totally enjoyed it for its own unique beauty. No regrets!!
If you get back out there take a ride from Livingston to Gardiner thru Paradise Valley! It will not be flat and unassuming!!! It has it's own unique beauty!!!
Absolutely! Californians move to Montana because it’s a farytale and less restricted than their home state but then they make changes to Californiaize it!
Will, we have 3 offices in the Bitterroot Valley. We have a very large market share. When we interview buyers, a VERY small number cite Yellowstone as a factor in their motivation for making the move. A larger percentage,yet small, cite Yellowstone in our markets and offices across the state. Now that can’t be said about the rental market including single family homes and commercial properties. The Yellowstone Effect is more romance than reality.
Probably more to do with the fact that everyone is moving out of California and many employees can work remotely these days. The invasion from California has ruined every town in Colorado. Home prices have skyrocketed, the highway to the mountains is a parking lot every weekend, and the newcomers are voting to change Colorado into the disaster they left in California.
I lived in the Bitterroot when those self-absorbed, narcissistic, entitled A-holes from Hollyweird came to our valley and wrecked our cost of living and our real estate market. I had a few run-ins with their "people" and as a Montanan...they represented all that is contrary with Montana way of life. I watched exactly one episode of that rubbish show and in the one episode is all that I need to see. I am glad that they are gone, regrettably the damage is done. I work for an international company and my colleagues all know that I am a Montanan that lives in Montana and it is very strange what people's perception is of The Last, Best Place is as they are drawing their opinions from this garbage show. Good Riddance! I left the West side and my family and I now live East of The Divide and we could not be happier.
The only way to live in Montana for regular folks is to be homeless.. Move to Bozeman and just park your camper on a side street. Sounds tempting.. I love Montana but can't afford to live there.
I moved here from northern CA seeking constitutional rights that CA wasn’t willing to allow me to maintain. I am still treading lightly because the people who live here are deeply connected with there land and way of life and I intend to respect that. I didn’t even vote for 2 years until I understood more of what MT needs from me. Never watched a single episode of the show.
Once your state shows up on the ''best states to move to '' list it is already game over. New York and New Jersey retirees,...plus ''halfbacks'' have become the death knell for your state. Selling their homes for armored car-worthy amounts of cash,...and driving up prices has made it impossible for locals to compete. And it doesn't even feel ''southern '' there anymore.
Basically what happened to Montana only a decade sooner. The Northerners ruined it by bringing their politics with them. Turned a red state purple. Trying to get out of here…
I saw the same thing playout in Idaho. No, there wasn't a TV show, but word got out about the quality of life, and yes, we had a lot of celebrities that lived there, and it eventually ruined that space. I would travel up to Montana each spring and fall to fish, and I could see what was playing out. I didn't watch the show, just can't, but when I saw the advertising for it, I knew immediately what was going to occur, and now here we are. I hate it, absolutely hate it. It's ruining the lives of the locals, and what's more frustrating is that many don't grasp it, more importantly those in the real estate market.
Now that Yellowstone show is over the area can get back to the way it was. It will be interesting to see what direction the Chief Joseph ranch goes now that production is finished.
Good job on showing the actual numbers. I first stayed in Darby in 2019 and wanted to move there when I retired in 2021. Sadly by that time it was already over my budget and very little inventory was to be found. I still try to stay for 10 days or so a couple of times a year. Cheers, Kevin
Having lived in Whitefish for 5 years during early mid 1990s, I witnessed the impact the movie "A River Runs Through It" made on growing populations and the illusion that it represented what living in Montana was like. Many out of staters began pouring in in search of that idyllic life and the consequence was increased property values and property taxes to such an extent it squeezed out the locals.
Great way to tie in RE stats with the popularity of Yellowstone! Only go to Zootown when absolutely necessary 😂 Bitterroot is nice but seems like everyone is stacking up on top of each other there. Thanks for sharing ✌🏻
I wanted to move to Hamilton or Missoula to be closer to my mom in Kellogg, ID. Then I heard about Yellowstone and what it did to the area. Nope! Never mind. Not gonna be part of the problem.
Thank you, I am noting the episode. By the way, this episode was very informative. The money amounts are staggering but the biggest surprise to me are the number of people involved that are never seen. That number sounds like a major movie set, I wonder what those numbers would look like.
Let’s not forget, housing and real estate is nuts all over the country. This bubble NEEDS to burst! Back in 2013 I bought small house in Arizona about 50 miles out of Kingman. Stick built, stucco, on a couple acrea of ground. Paid less than 50K, sold if a acouple months ago for 180 K. Still came up with a negative because in Texas I bought a home on 1/3 acre for 235K. But I am closer to shopping and health care, which was a must. Also, Kevin Costner and dances with wolves turned Deadwood and the Black Hills into a shithole too!
We bought our house in Dillon in 2002 for $100,000 it was our vacation cottage. We sold the house in 2018 for $185,000. Now I bet the house would sell for close to $375,000.
I was in Yellowstone National Park and couldn't stand the tourists stopping, blocking my journey on my motorcycle with a sidecar viewing the wilderness and wildlife. Too many idiots have no respect for the common people anywhere, no matter where you go. I loved the landscape and wildlife and common residents. Not the idiots that show no respect. I think Yellowstone Lake needs a volcanic eruption to help straighten things out for the future.
I’ve seen bits and pieces of the show. My family loved it, but doesn’t like the cost affect. All homes are much more expensive. When we moved here 25 years ago from the east, housing was expensive here. That hasn’t changed. It’s beautiful. Quite a few stars have homes here as well which contributes to the high cost.
When I lived in the high country of the Rockies a bit south of Montana many years ago we would always see the fully loaded moving trucks coming up the canyons in the summertime. The following spring after a normally occurring hard winter before all the snow melted off we would see fully loaded moving trucks going back down those same canyons. A huge percentage of people that move to the mountains because of the beauty they see when they visit in summer aren't mentally or physically prepared for the sub zero temperatures and the 3 and 4 foot deep snows. Winters are much worse further north up there in Montana. These people come in and and stay just long enough to drive up the real estate prices then leave. We used to call them, "ear mites" because they have the same effect on an area as ear mites have on an animal if left untreated.
Have thought about moving to Dillon for hubby’s work. Saw what 400,000$ gets in a home and changed our minds. Took a drive up to chief Joseph ranch and had lunch in town. The people were wonderful!
I don't think you can attribute most of the property increases to Yellowstone. I live in St Louis and we have also experienced great property increases.
Your commentary about housing costs and inventory would have been better if you had compared it to the national average for the same period. Because at the same time that housing prices in Montana were no doubt increasing because of the show, housing prices in general across the country have gotten really out of control, and comparing the two would have given some much needed context.
The next year will be interesting what with interests rates, insurance rates, natural disasters (fire/drought), MT taxes, challenging infrastructure, Kalifornia migration, investment groups building new MT resorts/master planned communitues, ... We were planning to buy a second home there a couple of years back. I'm so glad we decided to take it slow and just keep an eye on things. It turns out we really like where we live. No insurance issues and have more flexibility to travel the world.
TV shows are often promoters of real estate booms. For Boston it is Cheers. For Minneapolis it is the Mary Tyler Moore Show. For Seattle it is Frasier. For Dallas it is Dallas. For Miami it is Miami Vice. Other real estate promoters have been Sex and the City; Friends, and Beverly Hills 90210. It is really endless. The only thing different with Montana is the show is not in a big city, yet market forces were happening even before the show Yellowstone, with Hollywood stars taking refuge in ranch properties as well as billionaires.
I was born and raised in Bozeman, 4th generation...the silicon valley tech (elites & famous) peeps came creepin' in (1990's) and pushed a lot of locals out. That was a true beginning of the 'Rocky Mountain Boom', that started the big chain of developing (causing the cost of living to rise for the regular folks) and pushing people away from their lands...bringing in celebrities and rich who also made it worse by posting social media and publicity info about Montana...that never stopped to this day
The migration and demand you're experiencing in Montana also happened through most of the west, as people tried to escape the plandemic, the draconian totalitarian response to a flu, and the subsequent poisoning of 60 percent of the people. Looking for a place that is conservative, with self determined individuals who think for themselves and don't buy into the official narrative will keep demand strong for these rural areas.
Well... For the last 15 years, I have had a plan to move to MT. Before the show hit, when people asked me about my future plans and I would tell them, they would respond with "That sounds like a beautiful plan, but it's so remote" Now... If I mention that same plan, people refer to the show😄 and this would typically take place at a bar where I would be drinking my typical go to, which is Bulleit, not to mention I'm a blue collar guy where my go to apparel reflects that😄 Now.. I have to add "And NO!! It's not because of the F☆☆KIN show😂" IMO, the show did ruin it 💯
definitely a perfect storm of factors but it’s happened nearly elsewhere across the west in scenic areas, as well…..coof19/blue state refugees,remote working from home going big,investment real estate in mtn areas blowing up everywhere and I’m sure the show played a small part in your area, as well. I’m going to miss that show. I don’t think the spinoffs are going to capture it again. We’ll see.
I grew up the son of a Kansas Law Man then after high school joined the Navy and spent six years in California. I am retired now and me and the wife decided to see some of the United States. I googled national parks and Glacier was the top pick, we hitched up to our trailer and spent a month on the road mostly in Montana it was amazing. We bought local when we could and even stopped to pick up trash a time or two (such a beautiful place but people would leave trash bags in the turn outs). I could see myself living in Montana but my 8 grandkids live California and I love them. Just a side note I live in the other California not as bad as the coastal idiots. Not sure what I am getting at here but Montana is a great state and I hope it stays that way.
Your part of the problem Montana is over exposed.I grew up her been here 60+.The younger gen is priced outfits a joke.I grew up with loggers and cowboys.Now they hardly exist and we have forest blowing over and rotting away.I spent plenty of time on real ranches in MT.No never watched, ya I live under a rock.familiar with the housing issue, built my own.Yes its worth a stupid amount of money taxes are insane and not being addressed.Friend of mine at college,father was sheriff, in Victor.Stock farm didn't exist then, just ranch land
As a refugee from Portland, we moved to Hamilton in 2018 after I retired. We thought this was a spectacular place to live. It still is, as far as I'm concerned, warts and all.
Mostly the pandemic, although maybe a small part due to the show. But a very small part. I moved to Montana in 2021, and I’d never even seen a commercial for the show, had no idea what it was about, and I actually thought it was a show based in Yellowstone, Wyoming.
I had considered moving to Montana upon retiring, but learning what has happened to the state, and the real estate prices, that will not happen. I've been on a couple of trips to the state in the mean time, but everything is out of control price wise, and all those who have moved into the state are changing the proverbial "Montana Lifestyle" to be more and more like the over populated regions of the country from which they came. Sad to see, but not for me any more.
oh poor montana. poor you. oregon has been enduring californication for 30 years. you’re just now getting swept up. sorry for your loss but your crowing is no different than anyone else’s. imagine how the native peoples before you felt when your ancestors “bought” their homelands
Montana and Wyoming are on my bucket list of places to visit, no way I would ever live there though. As for a TV show ruining Montana that's a pretty good fairytale if the state needs someone to blame.
25 MILLION people move to California in my lifetime. You don’t hear us constantly crying about it and trying to find somebody to blame. Reality check; It’s developers that are destroying your states… not the people buying the houses….. obviously!!!!!!
Developers and county/city councils. Happening in my town w/ developers (hired by owners of land who changed their mind about valleys of sagebrush) pushing for annexation of property to take it from 1 house per 20-100 acres to 6-20 houses per acre. Not to mention the complete lack of infrastructure that has to travel through long distances of rural areas to these "exclusive enclaves." Why is a simple "no" never an acceptable answer for the big developers but is suitable to a smaller landowner (aging farmer) that has land right next to an already developed area. Sophisticated developers with global reach (including that of their state legislature buddies) and experience are preying on county and city councils made up of long-time locals with minimal to none big-city/international experience that clearly are out of their depth.
I’ve watched maybe a few episodes of Yellowstone, but I went to college in Montana and hope to either move up there or get a second home if I can afford it 😕
I had a dream of retiring to the Flathead Valley but with the high Housing cost, that dream will not happen. Might be able to to North Idaho or Spokane area.
North Idaho is just as expensive, if not more. Beautiful though. Look into Bonners Ferry, those mountains are gorgeous and sometimes you can find great places at reasonable prices. But they go quickly. Sandpoint is also gorgeous, but it is more difficult to get places with views. We love living in N. Idaho! And, you are really close to Montana and can visit the area often.
25 MILLION people move to California in my lifetime. You don’t hear us constantly crying about it and trying to find somebody to blame. Reality check; It’s developers that are destroying your states… not the people buying the houses….. obviously!!!!!!
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It's really sad to see what's happening to the state. I do understand that people want to move here, but I wish they would do it by getting local jobs and living as "normal" Montanans, not coming in and buying the locals out. We're always hoping for a really bad few years of winter to test the longevity of the newcomers.
I remember when there was undeveloped land between Darby, Hamilton, Corvallis, Victor, Stevensville, Florence and Missoula. Nine years ago my father came to visit and insisted on seeing that stretch because his parents had lived and passed away in Hamilton.
I tried to talk him out of it but we did the road trip anyway. It had been at least 12 years since he saw it and boy was he disappointed. He was blown away because he couldn’t tell where one town ended and the other started.
People leave the big cities for small towns only to make small towns into big cities. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Some think that stretch is beautiful and others believe the beauty and heritage of Montana small town and country has and is being destroyed.
Me? I just keep moving away trying to find those undesirable small towns with nothing to offer but good people who love the slow pace of living.
Partly Yellowstone and the other part the pandemic. People are starting to realize living in the big cities ain’t all it’s cracked up to be and looking for places like Montana to escape to. The problem is when you import big city money into smaller places, all of a sudden the locals can’t afford to live there anymore. And this is becoming a problem pretty much everywhere. So yeah, a lot like the theme of Yellowstone ironically enough 🫠
I checked real estate prices up there. Holy crap, it's pricey. I feel so bad for those locals.
Depends. If people own already and rates are locked they will be ok. Their property will go up in value which is good. But what do they do with it if they are gonna stay and die there. Will taxes and simple necessities go up so high they cant afford to stay. Gentrification can benefit property owners but then the builders get greedy and see opportunity to start turning gods country into housing communities and suburbs. Theres good and bad. If i had enough liquid and overhead I would love have a survival homestead type of location in the middle of nowhere but the cost of supplies tools and property it will never happen unless I win the lottery
💯 Lockdowns & vaxx mandates ruined affordability.
I live in Darby and I'm glad that clown show is gone. I think it presented a bad image of how we live here. It gave this area a little more attention than we really needed. Everybody flocked here to see were it was filmed. Idiots parked in the highway to take their pictures in front of the gate to the ranch. The traffic from the hundreds of people and trucks on the highway from filming was crazy. It drove rents up for housing. My property value went up but so did my property taxes. I knew a few people that moved here because they watched the show. They have all left because this place is not as glamorous as the show made it seem. In the end I don't think the average person benefited at all from the show being filmed here. I do like how you represent our state in bringing out the real truth about living here. Thank you.
My girlfriend and I took a month-long road trip out West from Maryland a few months ago. We wanted to see Montana but had no interest in getting caught up in the Yellowstone/Western Montana hysteria. We entered the state from the eastern border and enjoyed a few days there. Yes, it was flat and unassuming, but we totally enjoyed it for its own unique beauty. No regrets!!
If you get back out there take a ride from Livingston to Gardiner thru Paradise Valley! It will not be flat and unassuming!!! It has it's own unique beauty!!!
PLANdemic or PANICdemic will do but not pandemic!
So many fools drank the cool aid😂
@@jaymontgomery3330, not funny at all.
Never watched the show, but thankfully moved here beforehand. Prices are ridiculous now!
I've never seen a single episode of "Yellowstone", but Montana and I go back almost 50 years, even though I've never been there. But in my dreams...❤
Absolutely! Californians move to Montana because it’s a farytale and less restricted than their home state but then they make changes to Californiaize it!
As more Californians move to Montana, Montana becomes more Republican.
Californians ruined idaho too
Will, we have 3 offices in the Bitterroot Valley. We have a very large market share. When we interview buyers, a VERY small number cite Yellowstone as a factor in their motivation for making the move. A larger percentage,yet small, cite Yellowstone in our markets and offices across the state. Now that can’t be said about the rental market including single family homes and commercial properties. The Yellowstone Effect is more romance than reality.
Probably more to do with the fact that everyone is moving out of California and many employees can work remotely these days. The invasion from California has ruined every town in Colorado. Home prices have skyrocketed, the highway to the mountains is a parking lot every weekend, and the newcomers are voting to change Colorado into the disaster they left in California.
I lived in the Bitterroot when those self-absorbed, narcissistic, entitled A-holes from Hollyweird came to our valley and wrecked our cost of living and our real estate market. I had a few run-ins with their "people" and as a Montanan...they represented all that is contrary with Montana way of life. I watched exactly one episode of that rubbish show and in the one episode is all that I need to see. I am glad that they are gone, regrettably the damage is done. I work for an international company and my colleagues all know that I am a Montanan that lives in Montana and it is very strange what people's perception is of The Last, Best Place is as they are drawing their opinions from this garbage show. Good Riddance! I left the West side and my family and I now live East of The Divide and we could not be happier.
AMEN!!!!
The only way to live in Montana for regular folks is to be homeless.. Move to Bozeman and just park your camper on a side street. Sounds tempting.. I love Montana but can't afford to live there.
Missoula is as liberal as Bozeman. Homelessness abounds.
I moved here from northern CA seeking constitutional rights that CA wasn’t willing to allow me to maintain. I am still treading lightly because the people who live here are deeply connected with there land and way of life and I intend to respect that. I didn’t even vote for 2 years until I understood more of what MT needs from me.
Never watched a single episode of the show.
Don't even get me started on what has happened to North Carolina the past 10 years!
Once your state shows up on the ''best states to move to '' list it is already game over. New York and New Jersey retirees,...plus ''halfbacks'' have become the death knell for your state. Selling their homes for armored car-worthy amounts of cash,...and driving up prices has made it impossible for locals to compete. And it doesn't even feel ''southern '' there anymore.
Basically what happened to Montana only a decade sooner. The Northerners ruined it by bringing their politics with them. Turned a red state purple. Trying to get out of here…
Yea really our way of life is being ruined
I saw the same thing playout in Idaho. No, there wasn't a TV show, but word got out about the quality of life, and yes, we had a lot of celebrities that lived there, and it eventually ruined that space. I would travel up to Montana each spring and fall to fish, and I could see what was playing out. I didn't watch the show, just can't, but when I saw the advertising for it, I knew immediately what was going to occur, and now here we are. I hate it, absolutely hate it. It's ruining the lives of the locals, and what's more frustrating is that many don't grasp it, more importantly those in the real estate market.
Now that Yellowstone show is over the area can get back to the way it was. It will be interesting to see what direction the Chief Joseph ranch goes now that production is finished.
I played a news camera man in season 5. It was definitely an interesting experience.
Good job on showing the actual numbers. I first stayed in Darby in 2019 and wanted to move there when I retired in 2021. Sadly by that time it was already over my budget and very little inventory was to be found. I still try to stay for 10 days or so a couple of times a year.
Cheers,
Kevin
Having lived in Whitefish for 5 years during early mid 1990s, I witnessed the impact the movie "A River Runs Through It" made on growing populations and the illusion that it represented what living in Montana was like. Many out of staters began pouring in in search of that idyllic life and the consequence was increased property values and property taxes to such an extent it squeezed out the locals.
Great way to tie in RE stats with the popularity of Yellowstone! Only go to Zootown when absolutely necessary 😂 Bitterroot is nice but seems like everyone is stacking up on top of each other there. Thanks for sharing ✌🏻
💯true about Zootown & Bitterroot!
I wanted to move to Hamilton or Missoula to be closer to my mom in Kellogg, ID. Then I heard about Yellowstone and what it did to the area. Nope! Never mind. Not gonna be part of the problem.
North Idaho is way better anyway.
Hi Will, what episode or season were you in? I am just starting to watch the series now.
Season 5, episode 1
Thank you, I am noting the episode. By the way, this episode was very informative. The money amounts are staggering but the biggest surprise to me are the number of people involved that are never seen. That number sounds like a major movie set, I wonder what those numbers would look like.
Let’s not forget, housing and real estate is nuts all over the country. This bubble NEEDS to burst! Back in 2013 I bought small house in Arizona about 50 miles out of Kingman. Stick built, stucco, on a couple acrea of ground. Paid less than 50K, sold if a acouple months ago for 180 K. Still came up with a negative because in Texas I bought a home on 1/3 acre for 235K. But I am closer to shopping and health care, which was a must.
Also, Kevin Costner and dances with wolves turned Deadwood and the Black Hills into a shithole too!
We bought our house in Dillon in 2002 for $100,000 it was our vacation cottage.
We sold the house in 2018 for $185,000. Now I bet the house would sell for close to $375,000.
I was in Yellowstone National Park and couldn't stand the tourists stopping, blocking my journey on my motorcycle with a sidecar viewing the wilderness and wildlife. Too many idiots have no respect for the common people anywhere, no matter where you go. I loved the landscape and wildlife and common residents. Not the idiots that show no respect. I think Yellowstone Lake needs a volcanic eruption to help straighten things out for the future.
I’ve seen bits and pieces of the show. My family loved it, but doesn’t like the cost affect. All homes are much more expensive. When we moved here 25 years ago from the east, housing was expensive here. That hasn’t changed. It’s beautiful. Quite a few stars have homes here as well which contributes to the high cost.
Good afternoon from Lone Grove Oklahoma my friend! Great job as always.
Montana is beautiful but it’s coooooooooold.
Or did Yellostone just pick up where A River Runs Through It left off?
When I lived in the high country of the Rockies a bit south of Montana many years ago we would always see the fully loaded moving trucks coming up the canyons in the summertime. The following spring after a normally occurring hard winter before all the snow melted off we would see fully loaded moving trucks going back down those same canyons. A huge percentage of people that move to the mountains because of the beauty they see when they visit in summer aren't mentally or physically prepared for the sub zero temperatures and the 3 and 4 foot deep snows. Winters are much worse further north up there in Montana. These people come in and and stay just long enough to drive up the real estate prices then leave. We used to call them, "ear mites" because they have the same effect on an area as ear mites have on an animal if left untreated.
Have thought about moving to Dillon for hubby’s work. Saw what 400,000$ gets in a home and changed our minds. Took a drive up to chief Joseph ranch and had lunch in town. The people were wonderful!
I don't think you can attribute most of the property increases to Yellowstone. I live in St Louis and we have also experienced great property increases.
Possibly if that show brought in certain voters from states like California.
As soon as they keep Montana red fair away from all this BS I don’t think property is bad !
By the way need some help
Whitefish x Bozeman ?
I really enjoyed this reality-check video! Fascinating first-hand information.
Your commentary about housing costs and inventory would have been better if you had compared it to the national average for the same period. Because at the same time that housing prices in Montana were no doubt increasing because of the show, housing prices in general across the country have gotten really out of control, and comparing the two would have given some much needed context.
The next year will be interesting what with interests rates, insurance rates, natural disasters (fire/drought), MT taxes, challenging infrastructure, Kalifornia migration, investment groups building new MT resorts/master planned communitues, ...
We were planning to buy a second home there a couple of years back. I'm so glad we decided to take it slow and just keep an eye on things. It turns out we really like where we live. No insurance issues and have more flexibility to travel the world.
I watched part of an early episode of the show... made my skin crawl... never again.
Glad to see. Now Darby can get back to Normal.
TV shows are often promoters of real estate booms. For Boston it is Cheers. For Minneapolis it is the Mary Tyler Moore Show. For Seattle it is Frasier. For Dallas it is Dallas. For Miami it is Miami Vice. Other real estate promoters have been Sex and the City; Friends, and Beverly Hills 90210. It is really endless. The only thing different with Montana is the show is not in a big city, yet market forces were happening even before the show Yellowstone, with Hollywood stars taking refuge in ranch properties as well as billionaires.
Really liked this video! So glad you did it.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I was born and raised in Bozeman, 4th generation...the silicon valley tech (elites & famous) peeps came creepin' in (1990's) and pushed a lot of locals out. That was a true beginning of the 'Rocky Mountain Boom', that started the big chain of developing (causing the cost of living to rise for the regular folks) and pushing people away from their lands...bringing in celebrities and rich who also made it worse by posting social media and publicity info about Montana...that never stopped to this day
Hey's thanks for this video! Will is full of great information!!
Man, I wish I could get from the Chief Joseph Ranch to Missoula in a short car ride.
I always love these VIDEOS. ❤❤❤❤😊😊😊😊😊
Glad you like them!
The migration and demand you're experiencing in Montana also happened through most of the west, as people tried to escape the plandemic, the draconian totalitarian response to a flu, and the subsequent poisoning of 60 percent of the people. Looking for a place that is conservative, with self determined individuals who think for themselves and don't buy into the official narrative will keep demand strong for these rural areas.
I would love to own a ranch with beautiful highland cows one day 😢
I would love to move to the area, but if I did I wouldn’t have my happy place to go to.
Well... For the last 15 years, I have had a plan to move to MT.
Before the show hit, when people asked me about my future plans and I would tell them, they would respond with "That sounds like a beautiful plan, but it's so remote" Now... If I mention that same plan, people refer to the show😄 and this would typically take place at a bar where I would be drinking my typical go to, which is Bulleit, not to mention I'm a blue collar guy where my go to apparel reflects that😄
Now.. I have to add "And NO!! It's not because of the F☆☆KIN show😂"
IMO, the show did ruin it 💯
Has the supply come back up because people have left or they have built more houses?
Both
nice. information. both did.
good research always interesting
Wonderful State.
definitely a perfect storm of factors but it’s happened nearly elsewhere across the west in scenic areas, as well…..coof19/blue state refugees,remote working from home going big,investment real estate in mtn areas blowing up everywhere and I’m sure the show played a small part in your area, as well.
I’m going to miss that show. I don’t think the spinoffs are going to capture it again. We’ll see.
Well said
❤❤❤
How does the price changes look, compared to the rest of the US? It seems to mirror the overall market.
Californians, thats what is ruining Montana.
Idaho too
As the Eagles song The Last Resort goes "Call some place paradise Kiss it good bye".
I worked on far and away in 1990 for about 16 days , and I made 65.00 per day and they were long days .
I tuned in because I thought the Super Volcano was about to explode.....I have never watched the TV series.
Missoula I have been there as I had family there was very pretty there tho in the 60's I was like 9 yrs old.
We are Penn state 😂
You drove up there. 😅
We are
Which came first, Yellowstone or Montana, am sure Yellowstone will still be there when Montana is no more. Just thinking.
He's talking about the TV SHOW Yellowstone, not the National Park.
There is literally nothing in Darby
Two lane road, doubt many Californians would like it
WE are...
Yes it did.
COVID not Yellowstone.
Very interesting numbers … so the lesson ? When the economy it’s slowing down just invite the Hollywood people to make a long series… 😂
Town pump making bank
Stay in California, Minnesota., Washington. Montana is full !!
Son (16 ) watched the show but wants to move there are Wyoming
I grew up the son of a Kansas Law Man then after high school joined the Navy and spent six years in California. I am retired now and me and the wife decided to see some of the United States. I googled national parks and Glacier was the top pick, we hitched up to our trailer and spent a month on the road mostly in Montana it was amazing. We bought local when we could and even stopped to pick up trash a time or two (such a beautiful place but people would leave trash bags in the turn outs). I could see myself living in Montana but my 8 grandkids live California and I love them. Just a side note I live in the other California not as bad as the coastal idiots. Not sure what I am getting at here but Montana is a great state and I hope it stays that way.
Uhh, YES ! 5th generation Montanan.
No, YS just ruined Westerns
It's a good thing that Montana is put on the map in a positive way. Cheers, Will!
Your part of the problem Montana is over exposed.I grew up her been here 60+.The younger gen is priced outfits a joke.I grew up with loggers and cowboys.Now they hardly exist and we have forest blowing over and rotting away.I spent plenty of time on real ranches in MT.No never watched, ya I live under a rock.familiar with the housing issue, built my own.Yes its worth a stupid amount of money taxes are insane and not being addressed.Friend of mine at college,father was sheriff, in Victor.Stock farm didn't exist then, just ranch land
As a refugee from Portland, we moved to Hamilton in 2018 after I retired. We thought this was a spectacular place to live. It still is, as far as I'm concerned, warts and all.
Mostly the pandemic, although maybe a small part due to the show. But a very small part. I moved to Montana in 2021, and I’d never even seen a commercial for the show, had no idea what it was about, and I actually thought it was a show based in Yellowstone, Wyoming.
I had considered moving to Montana upon retiring, but learning what has happened to the state, and the real estate prices, that will not happen. I've been on a couple of trips to the state in the mean time, but everything is out of control price wise, and all those who have moved into the state are changing the proverbial "Montana Lifestyle" to be more and more like the over populated regions of the country from which they came. Sad to see, but not for me any more.
the LEAST BEST PLACE,....sorry but Montucky is backwards at best.
Keep the non residents out, you don't want them messing your state up.
We have kept them out here.
oh poor montana. poor you.
oregon has been enduring californication for 30
years. you’re just now getting swept up. sorry for your loss but your crowing is no different than anyone else’s.
imagine how the native peoples before you felt when your ancestors “bought”
their homelands
Montana and Wyoming are on my bucket list of places to visit, no way I would ever live there though. As for a TV show ruining Montana that's a pretty good fairytale if the state needs someone to blame.
25 MILLION people move to California in my lifetime.
You don’t hear us constantly crying about it and trying to find somebody to blame.
Reality check;
It’s developers that are destroying your states… not the people buying the houses….. obviously!!!!!!
No, it’s the idiot voters that move in from liberal states like California that screwed it all up
Developers and county/city councils.
Happening in my town w/ developers (hired by owners of land who changed their mind about valleys of sagebrush) pushing for annexation of property to take it from 1 house per 20-100 acres to 6-20 houses per acre. Not to mention the complete lack of infrastructure that has to travel through long distances of rural areas to these "exclusive enclaves." Why is a simple "no" never an acceptable answer for the big developers but is suitable to a smaller landowner (aging farmer) that has land right next to an already developed area.
Sophisticated developers with global reach (including that of their state legislature buddies) and experience are preying on county and city councils made up of long-time locals with minimal to none big-city/international experience that clearly are out of their depth.
awwwwwwwww tears are a flowing like a river running through it lmfao lololol
I’ve watched maybe a few episodes of Yellowstone, but I went to college in Montana and hope to either move up there or get a second home if I can afford it 😕
Winter is great for skiing and of course summers are spectacular… Spent the last two summers up in Northwest Montana and British Columbia
I had a dream of retiring to the Flathead Valley but with the high Housing cost, that dream will not happen. Might be able to to North Idaho or Spokane area.
Don’t go to Spokane or come to Washington state unless you wanna give up all your rights. We have morons running our state and morons voting
Please stay away
North Idaho is just as expensive, if not more. Beautiful though. Look into Bonners Ferry, those mountains are gorgeous and sometimes you can find great places at reasonable prices. But they go quickly. Sandpoint is also gorgeous, but it is more difficult to get places with views. We love living in N. Idaho! And, you are really close to Montana and can visit the area often.
25 MILLION people move to California in my lifetime.
You don’t hear us constantly crying about it and trying to find somebody to blame.
Reality check;
It’s developers that are destroying your states… not the people buying the houses….. obviously!!!!!!