DoorDash Dasher Rewards Just Got WORSE (WARNING!)
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
- DoorDash Dasher Rewards is meant to provide dashers with more earnings options but does the program's strict qualifications actually making it harder for dashers?
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0:00 - Most Challenging Part Of Dasher Rewards?
0:41 - Why Unlock Platinum Status?
1:21 - First Order Request
1:44 - First Accepted Request (Increasing Delivery Count)
2:10 - Best Case Scenario On Single Offers
2:19 - High Paying Offer Add-On
2:57 - Shopping Process
4:06 - NEW Dasher Preferences
4:55 - Would You Decline This Offer?
5:51 - DoorDash Sends This To Gold Dashers?
6:52 - This Delivery Would Take An Hour
7:34 - Accepting To Stay Close To Gold Status
8:03 - Dasher Rewards Challenges
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I have tried to stay above the highest AR possible I can, without losing money and guess what doordash is going to make you lose money eventually because they will force you to take an offer otherwise your AR goes down. I've given up trying to be a top dasher I just turn on the app if something decent come in I take it if not it's okay too.
Well you only get paid a 2.00 base pay for accepting a 3 order "offer" and two of those orders won't tip so basically deliver two for free. and if you deny that offer you go back 3 orders worth of ratings. and if you lose that 70 percent you lost platinum. which takes away dash anytime instantly
My market is still Diamond zone. It's increasingly impossible to keep a high acceptance rate as I refuse to beat the crap out of my car for no tip scumbags I am currently at 57% ar. I am going to be a cherry picker from here on out. I am sick of the games.
Just got a W-2 making decent money. DD will be my side piece. They don’t deserve me full time.😎
What you mean? They don't even deserve part-time either 😂. Only use it for money to go to your favorite sushi spot on Friday 😂. DD will eat your car into extinction. A very crappy app.
@@MOCave7exactly what I’m doing now
Yep. I’m about to just take a 17 an hour w2 job to save my car. Even though I got fired a month ago, it’s not worth the wear and tear on my vehicle.
@@user-dg3mo8vp4yi completely agree.. I remember a customer telling me how find a part time job.. Please don't rip up your vehicle for DD & UE.. Respect your vehicle it has been good to you.. 😢i stopped that night
They have been saying it for years now but any common sense person knows in their heart of hearts when something is over and the life of a delivery gig worker is over. The writing has been on the wall for some time and the nails in the coffin are being hammered.
Yes I agree
Ever get a 10 mile shop for 40 items and pays $10…yeah…they need to charge people to shop like that.
Dasher rewards has to be illegal. When I think of all the things that congress defined as what makes someone an employee vs an independent contractor and this is the very definition of being punished for exercising your right to choose
It's like unequal gamification casino style..... nobody needs to be jerked around like they do their drivers. I use another word calling it "corporate usury" among other things....... remember the sweatshop laws of the past?
Contact your congress man
I was on platinum waiting on approval for catering, and I was right at 70% AR and got an order for like $6 and 18 miles. Declined it and went down to 69% and dropped to silver status. I've done 6 orders since and am still on 69% because the orders falling off are ones that I accepted 100 orders ago. Not only that, but their new policy change only counts stacked orders as one order now , so I've done multiple stacked orders and haven't gotten sh*t. The catering is literally the only reason I'm dealing with this sh*t, if I'm not getting those orders after I'm approved, there is no way I keep putting up with this.
Yeah man, they definitely will be done soon if they don’t change stuff , they definitely suck now😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
My first 3 catering orders were all base pay no tips lol
Got an email yesterday that they declined my large order status, because my equipment didn't meet the requirements: dimensions. I assume this is because my catering bag isn't the doordash branded one. So I took another picture of it next to a large ruler, which proves that it does in fact meet the requirements, and resubmitted it. In the meantime I went out last night and tried to raise my AR from 69 to 70. Completed about six orders. It's 65 now. I was willing to do some relative crap orders, only declined high mileage low pay. And those were the ones that kept popping up. I'm right at my tolerance threshold and am about to quit doordash entirely. EDIT: F*ck platinum, I'm out.
You won't get many catering orders that's bull also ,you might get 2 or 3 a week maybe,it's just another con job too get you to take more orders!
I don't have a catering bag, yet I got a little Caesars order for 7 pizzas.
It can be sooooooo irritating trying to keep metrics up. Yesterday doordash was only throwing me 5$ orders. They were all under a mile but if I was to decline the 20 plus orders I ran at all 5$ my ratings would've tanked. And too close to the end of the month I'm not willing to risk it. In my local market sometimes we just get crap days like that AT EVERY LEVEL from bottom all the way up to platinum.
I find it disgusting that they can send us the same offer after rejecting AND it impacts your AR. They don't even (significantly) increase the base pay to make it slightly more appealing! It feels like harassment.
Facts that I was tripping..deny order for 2 dollar it comes right back for 2.50😂
That's right, my friend, the 100 orders in the last 30 days is every day and it always runs away the next day, for those who do Doordash part-time and do multiapp it is very difficult to maintain the 100 orders
It's 200 here. Nigh impossible if you do this part time
@@DwayneBennett In NY it is difficult to make Doordash, here in California in some areas they updated it to 80% acceptance and 150 orders in the last 30 days and apart from that they removed the dash now even though it is platinum level, Doodash is a disaster
It's 100 in my market per month. I do anywhere from 20-40 orders a day depending if I do a full or half day. It's pretty easy where I am but I think they have it set that way because my local market isn't as good as other places.
@@offcenterart
Lol there is no way you are taking forty orders in a day please and even twenty orders is very tiring to try to do
@@bballah9969 whatever. I've been keeping count on a counter. I am working 12+ hours days. Maybe YOU aren't but I sure am. Some days I only do a little if I only work a little.
I like the shop and delivers better than the restaurants as I do get better pay with those orders. Also, I can use my rewards cards for stores with shop and delivers like CVS and use the e-coupons and rewards points to give the customers a discount and improve my customer service ratings.
Soon DD drivers will be the type of people that accept orders so they can feed their habit.
I turned off shop and deliver orders, and it has been amazing !!
I have been getting $5 or less orders. Then, Saturday, I got one for $3 to drive 9 miles!!! Who would ever take that one?!😅😢😅
I've been able to opt out of S&D and cash deliveries since I started over a year ago.
As to getting the same order twice in a row, the last time it happened to me, I called support. I was told it happens when you're the closest driver. When I asked if there was any way to avoid it, the answer was basically, FLEE!
A market in my area gives consistent trash orders that will take away 10 points of your AR in 5 minutes. Yes it's that bad. I try not to Dash in that zone now, but it makes it nearly impossible for anyone to raise their AR if they have to work in that zone.
I lost my rolling hundred orders yesterday, no more platinum, not having dash now sucks here. Former Drive catering dasher, 2 catering bags, hit platinum and still no filling my catering bags here.
Platinum is absolute garbage in my market now. I get the exact same offers you were getting on gold with some decent ones thrown in.... I was at 78% AR on Friday I got 3 absolute disgusting orders in a row and it's now Sunday and I'm in the mid 60's because all of the trash they keep sending me.
I was in the 80s acceptance rate and yesterday was the weirdest DoorDash day probably the second worst one I've had! But they kept throwing me orders that were 10-15 miles away with like three dollar tips and with gas being so expensive I can't afford that. I had to turn down a lot of orders Because they were so far away. I don't mind driving 7 miles for an ok tip that's not a problem for me but when they're sending me 15 miles away and 12 miles away for a three dollar tip over and over again and then knocking down my acceptance rate I don't think that's very cool!
They know dashers with high acceptance will have to accept bad orders to keep their tier so they can abuse dashers by sending bad orders to get filled since no logical dasher would take a extremely bad order.
@@TooLazy2ThinkOf1Yes.. And they slip stacked orders like that too.. You get a good order then they slip in a bs order, because they they know drivers are not taking bs orders.. So they hide it
I’ve always been platinum. Haven’t had a catering / large order since rewards program joined us in the PGH market. To be honest, don’t recall when I had one even on the old program. Haha! They just keep dangling the carrot in front of us Mike. 🤪
Hey Mike Savannah Georgia in the house. Just wanted to tell you. Thank you for the content and I feel your pain. DoorDash needs to take less of a cut or make customers pay more. I hate that they treat us this bad.
The customers pay a lot. It's the doordash cut that's a problem.
What I want to know is why is doordash charging customers for mileage, and we get$0 of it when we are the ones driving all the miles.
I am platinum now for 2 months, and got top dasher this month. I got to 92% and the offers just got worse.
Basically no matter what you do or doing, they just selll you the idea something is good when it's exactly the same as it use to be
I have a great FT job, just looking for some extra cash. Is DD worth it? Not looking for a lot of money
I got the same email about the preferences but when I clicked the link it was exactly the same?
The more you reject...the worst orders they give it
Really , I don’t believe , because I went from platinum to silver .. after two declines .. platinum threw me 2 to 4 dollar orders .. they’re lying..
It’s a joke
Yup it's like punishment for respecting yourself & vehicle
Great channel, thanks....
Hey can you do an episode on what to do when your Red Card is declined? I had a stacked order at Meijer and when I tried to pay for it my card was declined 🤷🏻
I was trying for platinum too but I only have 137 lifetime deliveries. I have 80% AR and could probably make 100 rolling by tomorrow but I can't hit the 200 by tomorrow. Does it not go into effect during the month? I am thinking it needs to be by the end of the month. Oh well, maybe next time.
Thank you for confirming that I don't want to go back to Dashing.
Question for people who are in this new pilot program.. for catering order do you still need to take photo of your catering order? Or it just comes it as a regular order?
I believe your CR is being monitored as well. The preferences options have been available for as long as I can remember
So if I get the same order twice and decline it both times is that on my platinum status?
I’ve never gotten that email, but I do have to option to opt-out of shop & deliver (which I did). It’s next to the cash on delivery preference. Is that not standard on the app for everyone?
It is not at the moment. I only have toggle options for alcohol orders and cash on delivery.
@@NickInSanDiego It's all over the place, depending on the app version they give you to use. I have a different app option than both of you do. It's said that the ability to toggle more things is coming (I've seen it on other app versions already, way better). That would work much better for me personally. Also I don't have the catering option on my app yet they've sent me a couple of offers that I took happily as I already had the bags for it. It will work better for me if I can customize the offers and run my deliveries with my best interest and then being to them as well.
@@NickInSanDiego See there, I don’t have the option to opt-out of alcohol deliveries right now, but after reading through all that liability stuff I wish I did.
@@briilovelife22 I have called them @support and asked a couple of times about a month apart to remove me too. We all have different software versions that allow for toggling preferences. If you keep your acceptance rate up and have a buffer you can keep declining their alcohol/shop and drops offers until they kinda get the drift. But don't let yourself get to low on your AR because it can effect other things dashing wise. Just let them know why you don't want to do those kinds of offers..... it's supposed to be our choice is it not? p.s. They say the toggle buttons are coming at some point.... I can't wait till they do. Blessings..... ":^)
My theory is if you don't manually decline an order it will be repeated. Probably because they think you were too busy driving to decline yourself.
Your theory is wrong
I got up to 58 percent then door dash gave me 8 straight no tip orders dropping me down to 48 percent. I think the they start giving you more trash orders because they know you to get the rewards you will have to take them
i made top dasher 7 months in row i got dropped to gold now i cant dash anytime and app will only let me schedule an hr at a time at not busy times very frustrating
In my market, it takes 150 deliveries in the last 30 days as well as 80% acceptance to be platinum 😂😂😂
I've had them send me orders that were not worth taking and after letting the clock run out to make the order go away they sent me the same boo boo order like three times in a row and dropped my acceptance rating like 4 to 5 points in like 4 minutes 😂.... they be trippin 😡
They always send me my declines twice. Then they threaten me with my AR going down & ask if im sure and give me an extra 60 seconds to decide.
That says a lot.
I still say no.. I respect myself & my vehicle..
Theres two targets near me and one when you shop and pay it shows the item’s aisle but the other doesnt
I hear ya, the Target I shop & deliver at will have the aisle # for about 80% of the items. The other 20% it only lists the section of the store like “Dairy” or “Health & Beauty”. For Target and some Grocery stores I have those apps downloaded so I can quickly look up an item’s location if need be.
I had almost 450 orders this last month, 100% acceptance and 100% completion, 4.97 customer rating, and I’ve never got the invite for the catering or large orders programs. May 7 we get the new deal (Fairbanks Alaska) I don’t know to be excited or not after reading some of these comments!
In my local Erie market I have noticed their appears to be a longer wait time but I got a double stacked order for 7 mi for $17 today and that is an example of double digit payouts that take me 20 minutes or less now it doesn't guarantee you're going to get three of them in an hour to make 60 bucks an hour but hey I made 20 bucks and went and bought lunch in 15-17 minutes
Saw $2 offers as a platinum dasher and just equivalent disgusting offers. Sure would be nice if people implemented a modicum of common sense. You know delivery companies using first principles thinking rather than throwing their monkey 🐒 feces all over. If only 😢
Going to stay in the single digits to low teens for AR. TD exploit was worth it. This doesn’t appear to be worth the stress.
I have Shop and Deliver priority currently, but havent seen that email
Has anybody else noticed that if they send you an order with a really low tip or no tip, and it's really far away and you decline it they will resend it back to you within a couple of minutes for like a dollar more LMAO and you know that it's the same order when you check the address
I just don’t have the time nor patience to deal with DD mind games they like to play for crumbs. It’s just not worth it to me.
by the time you get to platinum, the large order program will be completely dried up. But hey! You are on the road to platinum, where once you get there in a slow market, all you will use DD for will be to do your 5 deliveries a day you have to do to keep your 100 a month, and then youll shut it off to protect your 70 ar.... yay.
Where can I see how many deliveries I have done for the month, I don't see it on the Doordash app.
As far as I know there’s not a place where you can look at how many deliveries you’ve done in the last rolling month. But you can calculate it yourself. Tap on ‘Earnings’ tab at bottom right of app. Scroll down, and underneath ‘Earnings History’ graph it shows you weekly totals for each previous week. Tap on a week and it will give you stats about that week including # of deliveries completed. Tap on one of the days of the week and it will tell you info about each individual order.
A tally would be nice, right?
Go to Ratings section, it is the last number... Shows last 30 days and yr lifetime deliveries total
@@gilborgesrj Mine shows only the lifetime deliveries, what's up with that? 😕
@@RUHDD4HVN thats weird... does Your market have the new dasher reward rolled out? Silver/Gold/Platinum status ?
What’s wrong with $1/mile if A. Your in your jurisdiction (side of the city) B. Increments in the small things C. Algorithm will notice your habits and reward you as such (theory)
Shop and delivery drops pay to national minimum wage and perfect experience. I got 15.00 for two hours yesterday spent so yes 7.50/ hour
Trust me y’all this is not real. It is design banners. These programmers do not have the patience nor incentive to program the entire app so the algorithm sends to “high tier” dashers knowing the driver is farther away from pickup. It will always come down to pickup proximity. Period. Decline decline decline. Do not be fooled. Find the highest paying parts of your market and park it
I have been platinum since it started here and overall I have not been impressed. Many times I still receive the $6 or $7 orders. Also I have noticed more offers with less than a dollar per mile ratio. It's sad what is happening to DD
Same here with a twist. My area is low on dashers, but the dashers we do have are all platinum. Everyone shares in the suck.
I seems that no matter your AR, DD will still send you a flood of trash orders. Hard pass!
You are already able to take shop and delivery out I thought for a long time now?
Not everybody's DD software version has the same selection icons for opting in and out of offers.
I've been platinum the whole time and it's trash. The only reason I have to keep it is because I can't even schedule if I drop down. There's never any open slots to work if I don't keep it.
Imagine a hurricane impacted area (Florida to Louisiana) well there goes your ratings
I have been at 69% and it took like 13 deliveries just to get to 70% the rolling 100 is BS!
Accept then unassign it Mike. Then in the reason section explain you declined that order... I did and I got my AR back to the previous decline.
Good idea
Last month I also received the same order right after I declined the same order. I thought (No FAIR) . Called in to support and told them what took place. They claimed it was a bug or glitch and the engineers are working to resolve it. I indicated that my Acceptance Rate was negatively affected and the representative told me to indicate that the issue was not resolved when I called in and why. So that way I could describe what had happened and how it adversely affected me. I did just that. Nothing! No response on the issue!
This exact same thing happened to me on two duplicate order to the same store! YES it’s a dirty new DD trick to drop your AR! This is bad Dash business!
DD does this on purpose to punish and scare danshers to not know if they decline the bad order that it will come back again.
Training dashers like dogs to fetch that bad order or take the possibility of lowering your rating!
I think they know that you have to keep acceptance rate at certain levels so they know they can force you to take bad orders that no one would.
I've literally had the same order pushed out to me like three times after declining it... if I'm not mistaken even a fourth time in a row can you believe that.... I dropped down like four or five points in my acceptance rating in like 5 minutes lol
what I do is that if they send me an order that's not worth taking, after I let the clock run out and the order is gone I pause my doordash and wait like 10 minutes to minimize me not getting the order again
I am looking forward to the new dasher rewards in Akron, Ohio
I dont remember who it was whether it was C moto or bull city dasher that said DD doesnt tell u that you need to have 200 deliveries a month to really acheive the large order program. I use to do 450 -520 a month on DD and sometimes ID get 3-5 caterings orders a day , but atleast getting 1 catering order a day for months and months. My AR was always bad but I still did the mass deliveries to acheive 1200 a week or so.
Goodluck with the grind
Let me summarize all of your tier program videos. The tier system is for one reason and one reason only and that is to get tier program members to take more trash orders. That’s it. I have a 9% or less AR and I get the same orders you’re getting. Until I start seeing videos from you and others with high AR making $300 plus in a few hours I’m not going to bother to get my AR higher.
I've started Doordash as just something to do and also make a buck. I This Tier system is fair, it sucks but its fair. I can say honestly im surprised there arent more cash tips. My very first delivery was my only cash tip and it was $2. But im at 27 deliveries but what I want to ask is about the shop and deliver. I've done a grocery store and it was just a pickup. If you do the shop and deliver how does it get paid for? you take your money and they pay you back??
6:17 so yeah, the AR is a psycological game. I dont pay much attention to it yet I do over 350 deliveries a month on DD and get a catering order daily, I mean every day and I been dashing over 6 months. I busted 276 yesterday and busted 196 today. I am lucky to dash in citys where its hard to keep drivers lmao. You can make 20 an hr working a cash register where I live and cook chicken wings for 21an hour is why its hard to keep dashers where I live, I meet so many dashers that quit after a day or so. I dont blame em but I ussually pull 1,200 a week dashing but it comes with a price Id say after 6months in full time!!!! I have learned a lot!!!!
Welcome to the GAME OF DD. It's a JOKE!
I got the email weeks ago and shut off my shop and pay....hate it!!! I am in Boston.
yah I had a beach towel in my car and just draped it over them for the 3 mile drive
Ya door dash has been driving me crazy. And I am platinum. I am struggling to make $60. A day. I don't do shop and deliever don't like it.
sir pls reply my cmnt pls... percentage of govt taken from doordash income at the end
Oh you think that's bad I'm over here in stockton Ca and they took away dash anytime for Platinum drivers now it's some stupid top priority when dash anytime is available BS man what's the incentive now???????
Let’s remember none of these updates are in the benefit of the driver. It’s always In Doordash’s benefit
w3e're getting dasher reward tier in Minneapolis area on May 7
I notice in the orders it doesn't show the approx time it takes to do the delivery, just the distance. Here it shows both
I don’t know where to comment to this but want this information to go out.
It’s 10pm in Tulsa Oklahoma Door dash is getting ready to roll out the new priority system here next month. 2 things I noticed tonight. First of all my friend was out of his area on a delivery and caught another delivery to be picked up in even another area going back to his original area. Here’s the strange deal with this there is a Chick Fila 2 miles from the customers address so why did they send them 8 miles out of the way. Here’s what I discovered they were paying $2 promo at the Chick Fila that was 2 miles away so they had my friend drive an extra 8 miles so door dash could save $2
This disregarded the dashers income as well as the customer expediency it getting the order.
So caught them at this.
Second my friend is at 99% acceptance and I am at 90 % acceptance the promo offer me is $1 and the promo offered them for is $2 for the same zone at same time.
If I'm not wrong, customers pick the restaurant that they want to order from
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Uber's average offer in San Francisco is 2 dollars so this means your earning Prop22 payments only, Minimum Wage. Doordash is doing like 90 percent shop and pay at Safeway, Hot Food is non existent. Uber is asking me what I think about their company to improve the servive, they dont know the can of worms this is.
And I STILL DONT UNDERSTAND those AR vs decline percentages. I accept 5 orders in a row and AR did not change; I decline 1 order and my AR drops 1%
I’ll never figure it out
I has 13 orders the other day, 11 were shop and deliver orders, and 2 were food stacked with s&d in 6 hours the other day. I think everyone opts out and those of us willing to take them are getting used and abused. Of course, trying to keep my platinum status so I can't turn them down. This is BS.
My zone they will send me HIGH end for a few hours then at lunch i get crap. Bumps my my ar down. My zone so over saturated.
It's the same on platinum. Some days better than others but I'm literally still getting 5 dollar orders.
I'm getting base 2.5 no tip orders on platinum
I think the tier system is BS, its just their way to be able to manipulate and control drivers to take terrible deliveries.
Nothing they put out or do will ever benefit dashers but only the companies bottom line.
Hey Mike not only are they looking closely at your AR but Have you recieved a message on your screen after your shift about breaking hard and accelerating fast? I think that is beyond messed up! They want to track you with everything you do.
Been getting that. They told me I was accelerating too fast, but I was getting on a busy highway and had to speed up fast in order to not get run over. Their metrics are way off.
Have been able to disable shop and deliver for years in my market.
I just hit Gold last night. Looking forward to seeing what I get now
I don't know how they get away with sending the same offer to us that we already declined. It's not right. It's kinda rare but I've had it happen to me multiple times and at least one time it happen to me with a stacked order! I was so upset!
DD controls and rigs it in their favor.
It's easier for them to try and force dashers to take bad orders when their are tiers one must maintain.
These orders are beyond ridiculous!!! I git disgusted last week. Today i got an order for $15.50 for 16 miles!!! Are u serious?? My dang AR is like 62% and I’m at 97 orders. Its ridiculous. A $20 offer for 18 miles. Are they crazy??? It wasnt this bad when I started.
Just got the email that they are changing the top dasher program here in central Jersey instead of diamond it will be silver gold platinum
I personally have had dash preferences for a while now it’s beautiful! I toggle alcohol on/off all the time
It's a different software version to toggle more or less prefs.
I downloaded the target app and use the map or search to help sometimes.
It’s hair too much work to constantly analyze, and too
Much loss with the bad orders,
Too many games, too much gaslighting, and having to be the stooge
for the pitifully low “pay offs”. It’s a game that no one can win because the game is stacked
Against the driver. DD does not want drivers to succeed.
I have 30% AR and Im still cherry picking offers. I am in a big market though. So maybe thats different compared to small markets.
I’m at Platinum and they won’t allow me into Large Order Program.
And still getting $5.00 orders galore. Rarely get anything over $13.00 in Los Angeles.
After a few weeks at 70%+ I'm down to 21% in these 100 deliveries. Life has never been better. Making the same money doing 5 fewer deliveries per day.
I just want to reach out and shake you Mike: Please. Stop. Taking. The. Bait. 👏🏼
You deliver like 3 orders a day then make a video about gig work like you are pro. 100 orders in 30 days is a piece of cake.
There is no difference. I'm platinum and 89 acceptance rate. 90 completion. 90 speed. And 4.95 customer rating. 😅😂❤
thanks for the videos Mike, I see Door dash not worth it
I keep cash on delivery off
Cash on delivery is a way for people to avoid a tip when they have like exactly enough/ or not enough money!
If you can’t do 3-4 deliveries a day to get 100, something is wrong