Apollo Phantom V2 2022 Buyer’s Guide - V1, V2, V3: the Most Future-Proof Scooter!
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- Опубліковано 15 кві 2022
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Great follow-up on the V1. It's great to get insight on how the versions are holding up. This type of review is sorely lacking in the industry. Thanks for another great one.
Thanks for the kind words
-Vosk
I have an Apollo explore. Apollo is an amazing brand who cares about customers!
Got the phantom v2 about a week ago and it preforms like a beast.😎
Nice! Is it your first scooter?
If not, what did you have before the Phantom? -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuidethe phantom is my second scooter. My first scooter was the gotrax xr elite.
@@joselopezgonzalez714 same thing omg. I put hundreds of miles on my GoTrax XR Elite, imo best starter scooter. I then got an Apollo Explore!
I’m about to hit the trigger on the v2 myself after much thought. I live in Iceland and there isn’t a great deal of choice here (Kaabo, zero 10x (ugly as sin) or for much more money the vsett 10+). I was going to go for the warrior x because of the dual stem but want something with a smoother acceleration but still good stability. I’m not worried about super top speed. Do you think the v2 is a good choice for me? Thanks
Does yours pulsate on flat even throttle, or can it hold a smooth constant speed?
It's a luxury ride for sure
Absolutely Amazing
Thanks for the kind words! -Vosk
Some grip glue and safety wire can be found at any dirt bike shop or online and are way safer than a zip tie if you can't use a lock on grip.
Thanks for the tip!
-Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide no sweat, didn't want to come off sounding like a know it all,. Just trying to help other riders who might not know. Thanks for the Phantom info. V3 is sounding awesome! If you ever see a sunken groove in the grip usually near the inside and outside of the grips, it's for using safety wire. A company like Works Connection should sell the tool and wire kits pretty cheap. Lock on grips are usually the way to go due to easy installation/cost effective, etc ..when replacing or upgrading grips. Lot's of scooter upgrades come from motocross/mountain bike companies, especially bars and grips, but also disk brakes. You can get adapters to mount bigger disks or switch from cable to hydraulic. You guys should feature a video on disk upgrades , bars, and grips as well.
@@dc_5sauce really great tips -- thanks for sharing with the community!!
i just got my phantom v2 today, for my large body frame (5'9" 285) its been holding up so far...im loving it!
That’s awesome! Glad you like it -Vosk
Debating between the phantom v2 and the valara eagle one
Enjoy because there won't be an upgrade for anyone who owns the 60v version 👎
@@JwAirHorns they’re still working out the kinks on the upgrade kit. Also I have a kaabo wolf king gt pro so I’m good for now.
Nice video... i have the Phantom V2 , its my summer vehicle , i love it ...hope we can upgrade V2 to V3 !
Enjoy your awesome beast
-Vosk
Never gonna happen. 60v V2 owners are crap out of luck 👎
@@JwAirHorns i have the 52V loll ! but yes its sad for the 60V !
I just received my Phantom V2 last week, love the power and solid feel. I think it has a problem though, it seems to always pulsate when trying to ride at a constant speed on flat ground, it's like the power to the motor goes on, then off, on, etc. like a car running out of gas, does it on single or double motor also tried the P settings, it varies so much that with Cruise enabled, it won't lock in because it can't stay at exact same speed, does not do it going up hills or coasting down. I have a case open with Apollo, things like this can be really hard to convince someone you have a problem though, we'll see.
I’m sure they will get things straightened out for you! -Vosk
ooh this is a weird one and must be a problem with the controller and now think i'll wait until black friday for a good sale on a product that may be problematic
They never fixed it, sent back after 2 weeks saying that is normal, so guess I will try the V3 kit to help smooth out all that power, especially in sport mode, throttle is pretty much off/on, hard to ride smooth in between.
@@HikerToo yes was doing this on my V2 and now that I upgraded to V3 wow, they it should have been since day 1.
Hello! Is the v3 faster than the v2 60v?
I get jealous of the thumb throttle on the Apollo. Wonder why trigger throttle even exist because I can't think of anything good with trigger throttle to be honest.
I agree! I can’t think of any good reason to have a trigger throttle. -Paul
I agree.
I'm also with you on that one
When using a thumb throttle you cant wrap your entire hand around the grip. On bumpy roads or downhill etc i like to actually have a hold on the scooter, ive got 3 extra fingers to wrap around if im using 1 for the throttle, there is only 1 thumb.
@@Futurebound_jpg It makes sense but I feel less in control if I really hold the handlebar to stay on the scooter so to speak like you don't hold the steering wheel to be still in the car if that makes sense.
But what I really don't like with trigger throttle is the awkward position you have to place the brake handle if you want a good throttle position and vice-versa. I mean the position for both throttle and brake will be a compromise because it's impossible to have both in a good position, at least for me. Also I want to use my index finger for brakes or at least be ready with it which I can't in the same way with trigger throttle.
Anyway I guess it's a preference thing in the end. 🙂
It's nice that upgrade kits are available.
For sure! Thanks for watching
-Vosk
Actually upgrade kits are not available. Everyone which is everyone who buys the 60v ludo version won't even get the V3 upgrade. Just 52v owners. False advertising!!!
I just bought the V2 and have never even used a kick scooter. Talk about jumping in with both feet. 😳
That’s awesome! It’s a great scooter for sure. -Vosk
I need a Phantom 🤘
So you have a scooter now, Michael? If so, which one? -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I don't have anything electric yet. I'm kinda just letting the technology get better as I'm saving money to purchase something in 2023.
Wanted one of these but didnt want to wait and got mantis v2,
Not disappointed at all
It’s a excellent scooter
-Vosk
V1 here! Did not upgrade the throttle because I love the key, but will v3 proof it when the time comes, as a heavy weight 280 lbs guy + backpack this scooter feels 👍
Very insightful! Thanks for sharing.
Nope. If you bought the same 60v version as everybody else, you will not be getting an upgrade.
Looking forward for a comparison with Vsett 10+. Everyone's favorite 2021 scooter.
We did a review of the Vsett10+
Great scooter. It’s faster than the V2. I just wish the Vsett deck was a little longer and that it had a thumb throttle and better display.
Not sure we’ll get to a head to head comparison. -Paul
Thanks Paul/ESG. Is the VSETT faster than the 60V V2?
v3 upgrade kit seems to be live for preorder but not the V3 itself yet. Hoping it will be the goldilocks scooter for my needs.
Should be coming in Q4! -Vosk
Appreciated the video. I am stuck between the Phantom V2, V3 or INOKIM OxO. I ride mostly in the city, a little off road but in NYC the roads are rough, always have cover plates, bumps, pot holes, buses and taxis to dodge. Any ideas?
Phantom V3 for the WIN all the way! -Vosk
Get an escooter with 12" wheels!! Won't regret it.
Awesome video. About to purchase one. Do you know of any other PhantomV2 discount codes that work? Save a dime where ever I can.
Currently there are no codes unfortunately! But it’s an awesome scooter.
It’s on the website
Whats the maximum hight from the deck to the top of the handles. I'm 6foot 7 and can't find anything about it on there website
about 40 inches from deck to handlebars. It will be tight but you should be ok. -Vosk
how did you get the two bottom lights of the phantom to stay on with the headlamp the whole time in the video?
Great question! You can change the on-time for the whole scooter in the P-Settings. I can’t remember which p-setting off of the top of my head though. -Paul
What is a good walkaway price for the Apollo Phantom V2? I am moving to Miami in a week and have my sights set on buying a V2. Are there discounts available or coupons one should know about? What is the best channel (website) to buy the Apollo V2? Great video man!
Directly from apollo is an option or from fluidfreeride is another option
Will you guys be reviewing the updated mantis pro v2 as well?
Possibly
Do you think the V2 is sufficient for a rider at a 215 combined payload, 650 feet elevation gain, for a 13 mile commute? I’m nervous it’s gonna go slow as hell up hills. I’ve been on scooters and they’re horrible on hills.
Yes you should have no issues at all!
did Apollo addressed the issue of connection between deck and stem cracking and breaking?
That was addressed immediately , issue has been resolved
Last year they released the phantom near the end of the summer. Now again they will release a new version near cold season. Is it tropical in Canada that they don't know when is the beat time to release a scooter?
Watching the V3 video Apollo made, my guess is that the motor controllers ended up going through at least one more revision than they expected. So this could have pushed things back a couple months. That’s just a guess though. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I appreciate that they try to improve their scooters. I need a scooter for this summer, but I am going to have to go with a different brand. I like the phantom it's the one I want from the time of pre-order which Inhad to cancel because it was delayed multiple time. Which people started receiving them near the end of the summer. That wouldn't be a problem if the battery won't die sooner because of the cold
No it's not tropical just in July & august. 🔥😎.
The west coast is ridable all year around. 👍👍🎉
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide They used to brag about triple inspections of their products!!! A 2 year warranty has been dropped! We hope Apollo won't end up as the BLACKBERRY OF CANADA!???
@@CyberOrganic Batteries don't perform well in the cold!!! They should improve on them in the north.
I'm currently trying to decide between the vsett 10 pro or the phantom v2. Any pointers?
Can’t go wrong with either honestly! Both are excellent in many ways. -Vosk
The VSETT PRO IS LONGER & MORE STABLE.
as real Phantom v2 owner i wished their customer service in Canada can be more helpful with lowered the cost.
Thanks for your input
Hi what scooter would you recommend for a budget of around 2500 to 2900 euro? Im new to all this. Any help would be much appreciated 🙏
Mantis King GT/Apollo Phantom V3 or Nami Klima would be great choices. -Vosk
I just ordered the Apollo Ghost not knowing about the Apollo Phantom. Will I be happy with the Ghost, or should I get the Phantom instead? PLEASE HELP!
Both are awesome! Ghost is a good scooter! -Vosk
I had the ghost and loved it. I was unfortunately assaulted and robbed of it and got the Phantom after. I really liked the ghost but honestly I think you'll be happy either way. The Phantom is great. It's very smooth and the tires are an improvement. My main complaint is that they got rid of the key ignition. I really liked having that, because living in a city you don't necessarily want to lock your scooter just to grab some milk or whatever. I liked that someone couldn't just press a button and drive off. All in all I'm pretty happy overall. Good luck to you
Planning on buying this thing, I do kinda wish the key thing was still there but whatevs
It’s a awesome scooter for sure
I would like to see the V4 with less weight, higher acceleration with firm folding handle bar with less wobble. I don't mind bargains 5 miles of range for 5kg less weight. We can manage that. I think they can build a premium version with less weight without hurting performance if they built the frame with titanium. It'll be more pricy but there will be a ton of buyers who love to carry less weight after paying a big chunk of money.
Very insightful! Thanks for sharing.
-Vosk
Very unlikely, and they would go to carbon fiber not Titanium that would ×3 the price.
It would be a way more expensive with titanium frame etc.Not enough demands on it.Too bad.Some other company will do that.
I am looking at purchasing an electric scooter and wanted it to be as future proof as possible.
After watching a ton of your videos I’ve come to the conclusion that Apollo is the brand I should get but, as a person who hasn’t ridden one in 30 years, I don’t know which one to get…the beginner Air Pro or the best they offer the Phantom V2?
I do own an ebike that tops out around 22 miles an hour and im okay with the speed.
I am a bit heavier @ 225 so I wasn’t sure about the Air Pro’s weight limit being able to deliver max fun/capabilities.
I welcome any feedback and can’t wait to jump on the scooter revolution! 😃
I would recommend the Apollo phantom version 2! If you get a beginner scooter it’s just a matter of time until you will want to upgrade , phantom has good
suspension , speed , build , etc to keep you happy for quite a long time
-Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thank you!
I was thinking the same thing about wanting more power after awhile 😅
Thanks for the response, now I just need to find the best deal out there 🤔
Thanks for the info Vosk, can’t wait to get rolling!
I am 230lbs and years ago found dualtrons... Trying to get something not so expensive but something that also has range... Do you recommend this?
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide me too i need help coz im planning to get one still thinking which one to get the Ghost or the phantom v2,can't decide whiche one!
How would an idle phantom v2 hold up after a year?
Should be fine it was stored properly and battery was drained till 20% or so
I am having super hard time deciding between city and phantom. I placed a preorder for city pro, but still deciding if I should cancel, and go with phantom.
Can’t go wrong with either but the performance on the phantom will be better then the city! -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Did you have to do any maintenance like change tires or breaks after 1k miles? I like feature of the city with their healing tires, and electric break throttle, makes it very low maintenance.
Is there going to be any vsett 11+ reviews coming?
Possibly
-Vosk
Have you been caught out in heavy rain on the phantom before? If so how did it handle the heavy rain?
With IP54 water resistance, it's honestly not great. I used my Phantom in all conditions this year but it took some significant water damage over time. I didn't ride through puddles or anything, but rain and wind and road splash can definitely get in there. Granted, I did leave the scooter outdoors overnight during the summer/fall, but I kept it indoors during the winter.
Water damage caused the complete failure of my rear motor this winter, and also damage to the battery, controllers, and more. Repair costs would be over $1700 CAD to replace the parts.
So what I've learned: If you're hoping to use a scooter in variable conditions, you really want IP55 as the minimum for water resistance. IP55 is rated for water splashes from all directions without taking damage, which your scooter will certainly be taking if you use it in the rain.
Sadly there aren't a lot of IP55 scooter's on the market, but the Nami Burn-E 2 is an expensive example. IP56 is even better as it can take a water jet from every direction, and Apollo's new City or City Pro would provide that and probably last a lot longer than the Phantom. However the City Pro comes with 2x 500w motors which isn't in the same class as the Phantom, so if you're looking for something that can keep up with local traffic, it might not be enough.
We have not used it in heavy rain
@@Agedude the City 2022 Pro/Phantom decision is my dilemma right now. Been leaning towards the City 2022 just because of the IP56 rating but the Phantom's extra range and speed fit what I'm looking for perfectly. Appreciate the insight!
@@coleharris822 I just discovered the Kaabo Mantis V2 comes with an IPX5 rating, which might be what you're looking for. The X5 instead of 55 just means it wasn't tested for dust resistance, but it's safe to say that dust won't be a problem.
The downside is you're looking at a trigger throttle instead of a thumb throttle, and the build quality isn't as impressive as Apollo's. It doesn't have the nice center screen or the regen brake control from the upcoming Apollo City or upcoming Phantom v3. but it's also less expensive and it can still hit 60km/h with 2x 1000w motors (less than Phantom's 2x 1200w but still probably good for commuting).
Can you recommend any discount codes for this product?
There are none currently! There is a free lock with purchase in its current promo
Size wise (dimensions), would the Apollo Ghost be bigger or the Phantom?
Ghost is slightly bigger!
The Ghost is longer lighter with mechanical brakes.Also has way better torque & eccelleration!!!
The Discount code doesn’t work, is there an expiration date?
Unfortunately the coupon code has expired! However you can still purchase is now as they are on sale currently. -Vosk
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Will the v3 actually be available at some point?
Should be 4th quarter of this year
-Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Awesome! Thank you bc im looking to replace my Inokim OXO
Hi, maybe someone knows when the v3 model might come out?
Should be Q4 of this year!
Is charging really 12 hours? Is it worth buying a second charger, I want one really bad lol
Yes worth getting a second charger! -Vosk
this company has really changed from their inception. I bought a scooter from them (explore v1) because of their tremendous customer service before and after purchase and also because of their warranty, which was free at the time. Their customer service is still excellent but I hate that you have to pay for the warranty now, that blows. I had to get something done for my scooter and it felt great knowing that I wouldn't have to pay for it because it was within the two year purchase period. If I were to buy another scooter from them I will not buy the warranty, I'd rather just pay for it outright.
Not sure what you are referring to! What do you mean pay for warranty? -Vosk
Sitting on the money for the V2 but I want the V3.
Haha true
Get the v2 and upgrade later if u want. Upgrade will be at cost and be the same or less total price than buying a v3 standalone they unofficially said.
Same here
So when's the V3 supposed to be released?
4TH Quarter
Does anyone know the dimensions of the deck and how tall it is from the deck to the handle bar?
Roughly 39 inches
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thanks bro
The range on the apollo Phantom v2 is bad that's the main reason I did not buy it. If it's gonna cost like $2,399 whatever it was then it better give me more range then 40 miles. Doesn't make sense in a way too because there selling the 52v model and the 60v but both have same range?
An average commute for a electric scooter is 5 miles a day so the 40 miles is plenty for the vast majority of users!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide oh true haha I understand you but me on the other hand on my days off work I love to travel at high speeds for a while. I mean 40 miles isn't terrible still manageable to me but yea man should of have more juice then 40 miles for that price.
I just want to let you know my UA-cam algorithm is filtering all of your videos... It started about 5 months ago
Haha thank you
I think $2100 is way too expensive for a scooter that's 52 Volt and has mechanical brakes.
$1,900 with the $200 coupon code. ESGPhantomApril
-Paul
Try not to compare volts to volts, instead compare the watts. Phantom has 2x 1200w motors with peak wattage even higher. The 60v version might have more power, but that doesn't mean the 52v version is necessarily less powerful than another 60v scooter.
As for the mechanical brakes, I haven't had any problems with them, but you will be using the Regen brake most of the time on the v3 anyways.
@@Agedude No you're actually quite wrong, Volts absolutely do matter, Apollo Phantom Dual 1200w motors 52 Volt system goes 0-30 mph in 8.5 seconds. Mantis pro Se DUAL 1000W (less) is a 60 Volt system and goes 0-30mph is 5.8 seconds. That's a huge difference even though the Kaabo has less watts. Also I have owned several scooters with hydraulic and mechanical brakes, mechanical brakes are definitely subpar for any scooter going over 30mph.
@@Agedude Volts x Amps = Watts
@@raulespinoza8668 Don't forget the electronic brake combo with mechanical one! They work very well.🤣😅
Until when is the discount code effective?
It has expired a while ago! -Vosk
I'm going to upgrade form my current scooter, the Gyrocopter Flash 3.0 to the Phantom once I graduate school next month. I am not sure if I should wait until the V3 comes out should I buy it and upgrade. This is my dilemma lol.
V3 prob won’t be till end of year but V2 is also an excellent scooter
-Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I'm thinking I will get the V2 and then upgrade. I really want it for this summer.
Thanks for the reply.
V2 now
@@kalebrobinson9988 Buy the V2 NOW. 👍👍😎🎉😂
The promo code doesn’t work I see!?
It expired most likely
I don’t know. I wouldnt feel comfortable high speed cornering on these things
Not for everyone! Stay Safe out there.
-Vosk
Only if you're 18!!!?
Good scooter but Vsett 10+ is still better overall
Both excellent scooters
-Vosk
I guess you cant ship these to Germany?
They possibly can! Please contact Apollo at support@apolloscooters.co
Nice scooter, would you like to review one of our scooters?
Which scooter ?
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide The techtron Ultra 5000. DM us on Instagram for more info.
These are great until it rains….
Thanks for the feedback
Just to let everyone know that the code has expired
Yes it has! This is an older video. -Vosk
Can I get a electric scooter
Start with getting a dictionary, first! 🤓
V2 or vsett 10
Can’t go wrong with either! Both excellent. -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide iv got a vsett 10+ 25ah but iv had nothing but problems with it, like I'm getting error 8 (throttle) I brought a new one but still not working saying error 8. Iv had to change the controller as well (not cheep) so I was look at this v2 to replace my beloved vsett.
The V1 & V2s' diamond display is way better looking against the DULL looking new one!!!Shame.
We like both! Thanks for stopping by. -Vosk