So awesome appreciate what you’re doing I had to recover from a heart attack and stroke you guys gave me hope to get back on my feet started with a Unagi two motor and hoping to get to the bigger scooter soon my reflexes and my physical therapy are going well thanks guys for keeping my interest during this pandemic
Phenomenal effort to make this video it's ridiculous the quality it is compared to other channels. Really really appreciate the effort you guys go too to make these detailed reviews for the consumers. Thumbs up
Glad to see prices coming down a little on these higher end scooters. I’m waiting for the new Inokim OXO. If it doesn’t get decent improvement over mine, I’ll probably go for one these.
Idk why but I really enjoyed seeing his Ferrari and racing on his bike! Gives him a little more credibility other than being a old guy talking scooter specs. Also I feel like he has really refined his delivery since he started doing the reviews. I thoroughly enjoyed this review as much as the scooter
I just purchased this today. I have a 3 mile commute and live about 6 miles from Laguna Beach so I am kind of excited. This video helped me choose this one and not the bigger model
More stability is great but wider bars really does impact maneuverability in tight and narrow stretches which is more common to be in than not. I've got an Apollo Ghost and have used cruise control several times. Really comes in handy if casually riding or on long stretches.
FINALLY! a video of the Burn-E 2! I would like to say Unofficially I'm probably the first owner in Australia of the Burn-E2. I'm almost at the 1000km mark on mine and I would like to say it does not miss a beat. It is a great overall scoot. I got it originally because realistically with the Australian laws I can only go 25kmph so it was a no brainer. It's still quick off the mark and the max speed is still more than enough. I've got my settings in a really good place where I can actually get more KMs than the original Nami. I Tested that with a friend who has one and I was more than surprised. He then changed settings on his closer to mine. But to anyone who wants to get a Nami but is scared off by the price.. do test this one. Guaranteed it will blow your mind without blowing out the budget. 😁
@@mike-gear2review I have the X mode on full max so I pretty much left that. Eco I have it so my max is around 15kmph good for the congested areas I scoot through, cause you can only go through those areas at 10km. The D setting I have set at 35kmph max. Due to Au being limited at 25km and I found I got a good range doing long rides sitting between 25-35. Now with all modes (besides X) I dropped the power levels for the front motor about 10% this allowed me a smoother take off that a full torque take off. And obviously just did that with all the other settings but increased the speed level/power levels. If that made any sense 😅
@@StivenAgoubi if I'm doing an average speed between 25-35 I'm getting a max of 120km ish, 110 before it drops in and out of eco when the battery hits 25%. I'm not sure why everyone freaks out about the generic batteries. I've almost hit 1000km and I've had no problems at all with any of the machine. Once everyone gets over the whole "brand named" batteries, you'll find generic are as good as any other. Also regardless of what type of battery you have you still have to be carefu how you treat theml. Yes the max speed is roughly 72-74kmph but where I live I don't need to be getting to 100 😅. The new model came with a dampener, larger handlebars and the connectors on the deck had better water proofed connections. I'm always surprised by how much range I get on the smaller version. Defs well worth a look at.
Hey guys thanks for those videos, very informative, crazy high quality compared to most of your amateurish collegues, first time ever I feel compelled to give thumbs up! Keep it going!
I ordered mine in early March and just recently been able to ride it with the weather becoming more favorable. Although this version of the Burn-E only goes 45MPH it still maintains 72volt controllers. What does this mean ? Well, it means that you might not be able to highway this scooter but it will eat any hill you throw at it. My commute consists of 5 and 8 percent grade hills which is suicide on a bicycle…unless you are a pro athlete. I am coming from a motorcycle and still, this is some of the best fun you can have on two wheels. I find the power exhilarating which entices me to go find new terrain to tear up. This is my first electric scooter and from a price to performance standpoint I really couldn't have chosen a better option. A few things I should mention : My commute is about 21 miles round trip and my total remaining battery after that commute ranges from 67 % to 72 % when I am not hooning it. And ….. Never ever ride an e-scooter on the highway, its illegal and dangerous. Ride Safe. Have Fun.
Perfect timing Paul. I've been researching the Dualtron Thunder 2 and was going to pull the trigger on that scooter this week. Now with this great review, you just made the choice a little difficult. Back to the drawing board. Well done video I respect your expertise. Keith.
@@dallinsmith6553 I ended up getting the Nami E-2. I'm thrilled with the purchase. I have no regrets, and the E-2 is very fast. Please note my E-2 came equipped with Nutt brakes, which isn't a deal breaker.
Its just too big heavy and bulky. Some people might be fine with that, but i want something i can carry up and down a flight of steps, something that fits in my Prius boot so i can take it on road trips and ride other places. It would be great if Nami made a lower performance version that was also less bulky and heavy. Like eg the Kaabo Wolf X. Or Dualtron Victor. Or Blade X Pro.
In the background of this video it shows a Nami Burn with side scrolling turn signal lights. I recently purchased a Nami Burn-E2 from FFR. They do NOT come with that feature anymore according to FFR. Mine just has solid white lights that do not blink, or change.
This is great! I see your $1500 cheaper version and raise you: To make it slimmer (While keeping it's current performance and handling specs) The EV market is only going to get better and better! So exciting!
It sounds like the most likely model to buy, for me when I need something that doesn t fit under my desk like the iron-Air with it's new design folding grips 👍
Sooo dope! Spring is DEF the time for escooter purchasing...I held off purchasing one last year... And am finally getting my scooter in a few weeks. The E Burner at the top of my list! I live near BK Fluid Ride so...now it'll be hard to decide on a new EBurner 2 or a the Refurbished e burner🤷🏽🙆🏽
Also, I would like to see a comparison between the Burn E smaller battery vs the Blast max version.. what’s faster to 45mph Debating what one i want🤷🏻♂️
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide also wanted to see if you noticed any big battery sag when doing the range test since this model is not using premium cells? I primarily ride 30-35 miles at 30+ mph in groups rides weekly.
The cruise control on my Nami is amazing, and it engages so much quicker then say a daultron which takes 7 secs of holding the trigger at a constant speed. With the Nami you pick a speed and hold the button for only 1 sec and you're good.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Hey Thx Paul, I was just using your guide to adjust the suspension. But I dont have the nami tool, i guess ill have to hit harbor freight to pick up the hose pliers you were using
I was wondering, as a scooter enthusiast who tested both the nami burn e 2 and the klima max, what do you think are there any significant differences in the top speed, range and acceleration.
Is there a way you can do a video comparison between the long range performance versus the smaller battery burn e? Wondering how much slower it is from 0 to 30 off the line, torque.
Just got my Klima Max. I don’t see why anyone would get the non-Max E2 over a Klima Max. It would be $700 more for barely in increase in performance. If you are considering that then I suggest jumping up to the E2 Max.
There is performance difference if you look at the stats between the E2 and the Klima max on riders guide. I have the Klima and it’s pretty quick but the E2 base is even quicker but not as quick as the E2 max. Plus you get better suspension, 11” tires and stronger welded tubular frame which all contribute in ride quality. I can’t imagine how it feels floating on some PMTs on this thing
Hmm actively looking a new better scooter, i currently have a base mantis, this is an automatically fail for me cuz of weight. I think the only thing that would me make me wanna buy a new scooter is if it at least as light as my mantis faster and longer range.
@jesus, that's a really tough one. The Mantis is really hard to beat on price, weight and performance. If you have the old base model, the new V2 base model is really good, but that's not enough of a change to want to upgrade. NAMI keeps saying they may release a lighter lower power version, but for now the only thing I can think of that might be interesting for you is a base model Wolf Warrior X, but it's almost 10 lbs heavier than your Mantis. -Paul
Paul ok about stability of NAMI, but.... How can we drive a stable, solid scooter in fast way.... In motorcycle exist same basic rules (handling, turn angle..) how we put our body and that you know it better of all!!! If it possible, make a video telling us how to use our body for better, faster and safer performance with a powerful scoot..😉
Hi Anthony, This is a great question. I wrote a couple articles about racing, but they were mainly on applying motorcycle racing techniques to riding scooters. I don't have one about the body mechanics for scooter riding. I wish I had some track time to develop a feel for the right way to carry a lot of speed through corners. So far, my gut feel is that scooters feel pretty sketchy when you're trying to carry a ton of speed through corners, because the mass is so centralized in the deck. I haven't tried PMT tires yet. I think a scooter like the Wolf King GT with PMT's might be really good because the weight is spread out into the stem (motor controllers mounted on the big heavy forks). -Paul electric-scooter.guide/guides/scooter-racing-track-techniques/ electric-scooter.guide/guides/scooter-racing/
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Both articles are very helpful, trying to pass "the circuit racing movement" from a motorcycle to an e-scooter ..!! You understand exactly my question and I'm happy to yours response!! With a few words... To go to the next level of riding fast with safety, must make a lot of "rounds" to find "the best" riding style.. of course from scooter to scooter we have changes, but here we are taking about unprofessional riding... Respect Paul for all your research and helpful ideas!!👏👏
In your opinion guys, going same speed (20-30mph) which scooter should get more range? Nami Burn e 2 or Wolf King GT Pro? Deciding between the two and wondering about range at low commute speeds. And aside from price which do you guys think is a better but for the price?
I have PMTS on my 28ah Nami and I get really good range. Doing between 20-30kmph I get 120kms (day ride) altho I know a person with a wolf gt and they got 80-90km but I'm not too sure how he was riding.
I just bought the X7 Pro (because I am just starting and happen to be a 250ish individual) and love the freedom of e-scooting but I have to learn how to get more comfortable while riding in traffic. Any tips?
Tips - pay attention to the road and people! Keep your hands on the handlebars at all times and wear proper safety equipment and make sure cars see you when you cross the street! -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide learning/learned my lesson dealing with some minor injuries, but I take them as lessons learned. I definitely will keep that in mind: just need to improve my judgment on drivers to my back.
That's a great question. The CST 11" tires I've worked with have been a complete pain in the butt to change. I Think th TUOVTT tires are a little easier to install and get seated. All of the scooters should be similar in terms of brakes, though I feel like Zoom brakes go soft on us faster than Nutt, and so far the Logans still feel perfect. Anything with connectors near the controls: so called plug-and-play connectors, is going to be fairly easy to work on. The NAMI scooters have them, as do most of the recent scooter designs. The NAMI is a fairly open design, so it's easy to get to everything, and unlike some scooters, you don't have to stuff 2 pounds of wire spagghetti into a 1 lb box in order to close the lid. Suspension maintenance is a very interesting question. Hydraulic shocks like these will eventually leak and fail. The good news is that they're easy to remove and replace and are a fairly common size if you want to swap them out for something else. The Wolf scooters don't really take full advantage of having hydraulic forks and are probably less prone to leaking because they aren't causing any pressure inside the seals. Basically, I don't see a big difference between the beast-scooters in terms of maintenance. -Paul
I am trying to find information on max speeds for each mode on the nami burn e 2. It seems that no reviews or sites or videos share that info. Yes u showcase the top end performance mode speed but I am so curious on the other modes to determine range and focus for charging especially since i will use this for work and some enthusiastic riding
We haven’t tested the Lightning yet, so we aren’t able to confirm any of their claims through testing. I’ve read that it only has a 30A controller. Do you know if the larger battery version’s controller has more amps? If not, it will be much slower than the NAMI. -Paul
Hello I am in 2 minds this or the kaabo wolf king GT which one do you think I should get but I have been told that the suspension is too stiff on the GT is that true and I am from UK so the roads are not perfect here
I love the display , imo all these higher end scooters over 3k should all have screens like this or better , possibly integrated. Anything less to me is unacceptable
Good question! I would love to ride an Apex, but Rion seems to not want to send us their stuff. I've promised to be nice, but I can't hellp but feel like they don't want us to test it. -Paul
Can you purchase the motors and controllers for the Burn-E 2 Max separately and upgrade this cheaper version? Would love to get the cheaper model if I would be able to upgrade to the faster speeds in the future.
Ah, I was trying to figure out where that $1,500 number came from. I went ahead and added a dash to the title, so it reads "New $1,500-Cheaper version" instead of "New $1,500 Cheaper version" Thanks for pointing that out. -Paul
Can this be ridden in the rain? I just dont wanna buy it, it starts raining before I head home from work and it craps out on me. It will be my main source of commuting.
What are the best brake upgrades for the nami burn e2 max? My one the brakes have a 2cm dead zone! Which means the levers have to be really far away from the grips… I want no dead zone like like my mountain bike so I can make the levers really close… cheers guys for any help :)
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide yeah they are decent but compared to my mountain bike they are nowhere close! And also the thumb throttle is annoying as it affects the grip on handlebars, also the buttons are all evelated far away from thumb and they have put buttons on the wrong side lol
To use turn signals or horn you have to take finger off throttle? It’s nuts! No thought into ergonomics… I had to switch all the buttons around to make it usable… the buttons should be flush with the bar and placed all on the left….
Just seems so obvious to me I can’t understand why they would design something with such obvious flaws… if anyone fancies hiring me on product development let me know! I’ve found lots of other faults with the scooter which would easily improve it…
I know you explicitly say this is the best ride quality and suspension you've used, but more specifically, how would you compare it to let's say a wolf warrior x pro in terms of ride quality and suspension? It is worth noting the x pro does not have the same controller as this either, it uses the more jerkey one. Range and ride quality are by far the most important thing to me and considering an offer for $1800 for my used ww x pro to go ahead and upgrade to this. I just want to make sure the upgrade is not super small. I don't anticipate performance to be much different, of at all.
That's a tough one. The Wolf Warrior X and Pro are still two of the most underrated scooters ever. they are ridiculously good for the price. The X and X pro are a bit more nimble than any 11" tire scooter. Because the suspension is so good on the X and X Pro, to me, the big difference is that the BURN-E 2 has gobs of acceleration. The X takes 1.5 times as long to get to 35 mph as the BURN-E 2. (5.5 sec vs 8.1sec) The NAMI suspension is way better than most scooters, but only a little better than the Wolf scooters. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide What about the fact my version of wolf warrior x, as in the pro it uses the minimotors controller? Does the smoother acceleration factor into my decision much for ride quality? I should note I’m in a pretty dense urban city with a huge range in road conditions. From very poor city road littered with pot holes and uneven surfaces to beautiful silky smooth city fresh roads. I find the wolf warrior x pro to have pretty jerky acceleration and fairly poor suspension for speeds above 20 mph if road conditions are poor. I’d like to worry slightly less about pot holes and uneven road surfaces at 30 mph and higher, which 11 inch tires and adjustable suspend suspension would seem to do. The sine wave controller, the dashboard display, and others just seem like a bonus but a welcomed one. I agree though that the wolf warrior x the none pro model is a beast of a deal. Unfortunately for me even the x pro is teetering on insufficient battery range, so no way the base model worked for me. Range is another reason I’m strongly considering this scooter as an upgrade. P.S I’d consider my self a huge scooter enthusiast and the idea of absolutely best in class dedicated non portable commuter electric scooter is one I’m okay with.
Hi Jacob, Yeah, the throttle is way way better on the NAMI. I've gotten used to the MiniMotors controllers on the X Pro, but the NAMI is smoother as butter, but also huge huge power, which is the best combination. The 11" tires, better suspension and super solid frame also make the worst potholes feel way better. We did get 25% more range out of the BURN-E 2 than the WW X Pro, while also going faster on the NAMI. So the range improvement will be noticeable on the BURN-E 2 vs X Pro. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide So I purchased and received and tested this scooter in the video. I can say it's actually a pretty significant upgrade for the specific things I care about, range, dealing with poor roads, and throttle/break ergonomics. The size of the tires and the superior suspension is specifically very noticeable when coming across poor road conditions.
@@jacobkemple7747 I've been looking at the WWX base model (due to sinewave controller and fact I'd put a second battery on it anyway) for quite some time. I was about to pull the trigger on it but then this cheaper Nami came around and I've read the above comments between you and Paul at ESG and now I'm not sure which route to go. I'm a small (5'5" 120 lbs) scooter nerd and I feel like quality is the most important to me. I really do want the Max to be able to go above 50 MPH but not sure if it's worth the extra $1,400.....Since you now have both the WWX and the Nami Burn-E 2 which one do you prefer? Is the extra cost on the Nami worth it compared to the WWX? Even Paul is saying that WWX is super under-rated and for $2k it's hard to argue with...I would hate to spend $2k though and then be upset that I didn't spend the extra $1,400 for the Nami but was hoping it might be similar to the feeling of not spending the extra $1,400 on the Max....Is 45 MPH max top speed enough?
Will you guys be reviewing the Wolf King GT Pro? Debating between the Nami Burn E-2 Lite and the Wolf King GT Pro. Specifically looking for which has better range.
Actually, we did! At the time Voro wasn’t using the full name, so we left the Pro off of the thumbnail, but the one we reviews is the Pro! :-) Here’s the link! ua-cam.com/video/7oousNwubV8/v-deo.html -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I did, they expect me to send it back instead of expecting the video evidence. As it would take a week to get to them and God knows how long for it to get to the maker and back with shipping so stuffed it would be a month if not longer to get it back and as I've no other transport or the ability to walk to the nearest shop with failing cartilage in my feet being the reason for buying it in the first place I can only assume that they don't trust the computer to give correct information. So I'm left to assume the dealer (Cruise Australia) is crap support. Do you know if the computer is trustworthy so I'm not waiting my money on another new one?
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I already purchased mine this morning. Can you just apply it to my account? I reached out to your customer service. Hope it gets adjusted
Would you upgrade to the new NAMI BURN-E 2? Let us know in the comments below!
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no it's too slow
i'm looking to get this as my first e scooter, mainly cause it has the range I need and the power to get up those steep hills.
@@adhochero6619 make sure you get a damper for it
@@Cashfizzy what scooters would you suggest over 50mph?
So awesome appreciate what you’re doing I had to recover from a heart attack and stroke you guys gave me hope to get back on my feet started with a Unagi two motor and hoping to get to the bigger scooter soon my reflexes and my physical therapy are going well thanks guys for keeping my interest during this pandemic
That’s awesome! Thanks so much for sharing. Glad you are doing better and you are enjoying your scooter
Phenomenal effort to make this video it's ridiculous the quality it is compared to other channels. Really really appreciate the effort you guys go too to make these detailed reviews for the consumers. Thumbs up
Wow! Thank you so much Ryan! I’ll share this with the team. It really means a lot! -Paul
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Glad to see prices coming down a little on these higher end scooters. I’m waiting for the new Inokim OXO. If it doesn’t get decent improvement over mine, I’ll probably go for one these.
Enjoy your scooter
-Vosk
What scooter do you have right now Beaver? -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide OXO. I love it. Just want more range. 50-60 real world miles is what I want. Other than that it’s perfect.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide and more top speed. If I’m being honest. Lol.
@@Beaver-be8vk You're a god amongst men if you're able to manage a 60 mile ride on ANY scooter.
Idk why but I really enjoyed seeing his Ferrari and racing on his bike! Gives him a little more credibility other than being a old guy talking scooter specs. Also I feel like he has really refined his delivery since he started doing the reviews. I thoroughly enjoyed this review as much as the scooter
Thanks for the kind words
-Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide is all you sir! Look forward to watching for years to come!
@@CoinRingsUSA relative sir
I just purchased this today. I have a 3 mile commute and live about 6 miles from Laguna Beach so I am kind of excited. This video helped me choose this one and not the bigger model
That’s awesome! Enjoy your new ride. -Vosk
More stability is great but wider bars really does impact maneuverability in tight and narrow stretches which is more common to be in than not. I've got an Apollo Ghost and have used cruise control several times. Really comes in handy if casually riding or on long stretches.
FINALLY! a video of the Burn-E 2! I would like to say Unofficially I'm probably the first owner in Australia of the Burn-E2. I'm almost at the 1000km mark on mine and I would like to say it does not miss a beat. It is a great overall scoot. I got it originally because realistically with the Australian laws I can only go 25kmph so it was a no brainer. It's still quick off the mark and the max speed is still more than enough. I've got my settings in a really good place where I can actually get more KMs than the original Nami. I Tested that with a friend who has one and I was more than surprised. He then changed settings on his closer to mine. But to anyone who wants to get a Nami but is scared off by the price.. do test this one. Guaranteed it will blow your mind without blowing out the budget. 😁
Very cool! Enjoy
Awesome news and what settings do you have yours on? I just ordered one
@@mike-gear2review I have the X mode on full max so I pretty much left that. Eco I have it so my max is around 15kmph good for the congested areas I scoot through, cause you can only go through those areas at 10km. The D setting I have set at 35kmph max. Due to Au being limited at 25km and I found I got a good range doing long rides sitting between 25-35. Now with all modes (besides X) I dropped the power levels for the front motor about 10% this allowed me a smoother take off that a full torque take off. And obviously just did that with all the other settings but increased the speed level/power levels. If that made any sense 😅
@@s2mc-w899 how much max range you getting? I'm debating between the pro or this version e 2 and battery size and generic cells scare me off a bit
@@StivenAgoubi if I'm doing an average speed between 25-35 I'm getting a max of 120km ish, 110 before it drops in and out of eco when the battery hits 25%. I'm not sure why everyone freaks out about the generic batteries. I've almost hit 1000km and I've had no problems at all with any of the machine. Once everyone gets over the whole "brand named" batteries, you'll find generic are as good as any other. Also regardless of what type of battery you have you still have to be carefu how you treat theml. Yes the max speed is roughly 72-74kmph but where I live I don't need to be getting to 100 😅. The new model came with a dampener, larger handlebars and the connectors on the deck had better water proofed connections.
I'm always surprised by how much range I get on the smaller version. Defs well worth a look at.
Hey guys thanks for those videos, very informative, crazy high quality compared to most of your amateurish collegues, first time ever I feel compelled to give thumbs up! Keep it going!
Wow thanks so much! We do our very best to release the best content. -Vosk
Awesome thanks , getting mine Wednesday
Thanks for the kind words
-Vosk
Sweet! Enjoy your scooter!
Let us know what you think of it! -Paul
I ordered mine in early March and just recently been able to ride it with the weather becoming more favorable. Although this version of the Burn-E only goes 45MPH it still maintains 72volt controllers. What does this mean ? Well, it means that you might not be able to highway this scooter but it will eat any hill you throw at it. My commute consists of 5 and 8 percent grade hills which is suicide on a bicycle…unless you are a pro athlete. I am coming from a motorcycle and still, this is some of the best fun you can have on two wheels. I find the power exhilarating which entices me to go find new terrain to tear up. This is my first electric scooter and from a price to performance standpoint I really couldn't have chosen a better option.
A few things I should mention :
My commute is about 21 miles round trip and my total remaining battery after that commute ranges from 67 % to 72 % when I am not hooning it.
And …..
Never ever ride an e-scooter on the highway, its illegal and dangerous.
Ride Safe. Have Fun.
Glad you are enjoying your ride. It’s definitely a awesome scooter! Stay safe
-Vosk
I weigh 225lbs. Will it still be able to go up hills easily or will it struggle?
Perfect timing Paul. I've been researching the Dualtron Thunder 2 and was going to pull the trigger on that scooter this week. Now with this great review, you just made the choice a little difficult. Back to the drawing board. Well done video I respect your expertise. Keith.
Thank you so much Keith!
-Paul
What did you end up deciding buddy? I'm was looking at the Segway GT1 and then found this video and I'm currently back to my drawing board too.
@@dallinsmith6553 I ended up getting the Nami E-2. I'm thrilled with the purchase. I have no regrets, and the E-2 is very fast. Please note my E-2 came equipped with Nutt brakes, which isn't a deal breaker.
Watching all the nami vids while patiently waiting for my nami 😀
Hope you enjoy it!
Its just too big heavy and bulky. Some people might be fine with that, but i want something i can carry up and down a flight of steps, something that fits in my Prius boot so i can take it on road trips and ride other places.
It would be great if Nami made a lower performance version that was also less bulky and heavy. Like eg the Kaabo Wolf X. Or Dualtron Victor. Or Blade X Pro.
Thanks for the feedback
-Vosk
I just bought this scooter. I have an Apollo Pro, Wolf X Pro and now the Nami.
Enjoy your new scooter!
-Vosk
@BearClawEV, you are a true connoisseur of scooters. Those are literally three all time favorites around here. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Thank you Paul I respect you guys alot
In the background of this video it shows a Nami Burn with side scrolling turn signal lights.
I recently purchased a Nami Burn-E2 from FFR. They do NOT come with that feature anymore according to FFR.
Mine just has solid white lights that do not blink, or change.
That might have been updated in recent batches!
I hope we see some water proof scooters soon these look so fun but England has very different weather conditions to California lol
Good point!
-Vosk
Great video Paul!
Thank you Sam! A new one to play in endless loops at the scooter shop!
-Paul
This is great!
I see your $1500 cheaper version and raise you:
To make it slimmer (While keeping it's current performance and handling specs)
The EV market is only going to get better and better! So exciting!
Looking forward! Thanks for sharing. -Vosk
It sounds like the most likely model to buy, for me when I need something that doesn t fit under my desk like the iron-Air with it's new design folding grips 👍
Always good to hear from you Ash! -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide 👍
Sooo dope! Spring is DEF the time for escooter purchasing...I held off purchasing one last year... And am finally getting my scooter in a few weeks. The E Burner at the top of my list! I live near BK Fluid Ride so...now it'll be hard to decide on a new EBurner 2 or a the Refurbished e burner🤷🏽🙆🏽
Enjoy your new scooter
-Vosk
I wouldn’t need the speed but the extremely sturdy and reliable stem build alone is souring me on any other scooter.
Yes it’s an excellent scooter. -Vosk
Also, I would like to see a comparison between the
Burn E smaller battery vs the Blast max version.. what’s faster to 45mph
Debating what one i want🤷🏻♂️
We don’t have the blast!
Just ordered thanks to your awesome video 🎉
Enjoy your awesome new scooter!
-Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide also wanted to see if you noticed any big battery sag when doing the range test since this model is not using premium cells? I primarily ride 30-35 miles at 30+ mph in groups rides weekly.
Mike, it felt strong to the end.
I’ll look at the range test data Monday to confirm.
-Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide fantastic news and thank you so much 👍
Good newa Mike, I just checked the data and my speed was consistent all the way through. -Paul
The cruise control on my Nami is amazing, and it engages so much quicker then say a daultron which takes 7 secs of holding the trigger at a constant speed. With the Nami you pick a speed and hold the button for only 1 sec and you're good.
Enjoy your awesome Nami!
-Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Hey Thx Paul, I was just using your guide to adjust the suspension. But I dont have the nami tool, i guess ill have to hit harbor freight to pick up the hose pliers you were using
Thank you for the recommendation
I ordered mine today because of this video
That’s awesome! Glad we can help you select the perfect beast scooter. -Vosk
I mean it kinda performs like a 10 inch performance scooter with the bulk of the 11 inchers.
I would like to see 11 inch scooters on a 35 kg frame
We are sure many new scooters will be released in the near future!
Can you upgrade to a bigger battery in the future and turn it into a max ? Besides the battery is there any difference like motors and controllers ?
The motors are smaller on this version
-Vosk
cool video thanks for the info and work involved.
Thanks so much Rob! -Paul
I was wondering, as a scooter enthusiast who tested both the nami burn e 2 and the klima max, what do you think are there any significant differences in the top speed, range and acceleration.
We like the Klima better to be honest!
Is there a way you can do a video comparison between the long range performance versus the smaller battery burn e?
Wondering how much slower it is from 0 to 30 off the line, torque.
Unfortunately not currently! We are too busy with many many reviews.
Just got my Klima Max. I don’t see why anyone would get the non-Max E2 over a Klima Max. It would be $700 more for barely in increase in performance. If you are considering that then I suggest jumping up to the E2 Max.
Very true!
There is performance difference if you look at the stats between the E2 and the Klima max on riders guide. I have the Klima and it’s pretty quick but the E2 base is even quicker but not as quick as the E2 max. Plus you get better suspension, 11” tires and stronger welded tubular frame which all contribute in ride quality. I can’t imagine how it feels floating on some PMTs on this thing
Hmm actively looking a new better scooter, i currently have a base mantis, this is an automatically fail for me cuz of weight. I think the only thing that would me make me wanna buy a new scooter is if it at least as light as my mantis faster and longer range.
Thanks for the honest feedback
-Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide any recommendations? Lighter or as heavy as a mantis with more range and power that not wayy more money?
@jesus, that's a really tough one. The Mantis is really hard to beat on price, weight and performance. If you have the old base model, the new V2 base model is really good, but that's not enough of a change to want to upgrade. NAMI keeps saying they may release a lighter lower power version, but for now the only thing I can think of that might be interesting for you is a base model Wolf Warrior X, but it's almost 10 lbs heavier than your Mantis. -Paul
These guys are great. Perfect video! Thanks!
Our pleasure! -Vosk
Generic cells=never buy for me. Great looks and other features though. Thank you for reviewing this. Cheers.
Thanks for the feedback
-Vosk
Just ordered one and looking forward to the fun!
Glad you got it! Enjoy your new scooter.
-Vosk
How does it stack up to the 60V Blast? which one is faster & better?
We have not tested the blast yet!
Let's go!! Summers almost here
Let’s go
Paul ok about stability of NAMI, but....
How can we drive a stable, solid scooter in fast way....
In motorcycle exist same basic rules (handling, turn angle..) how we put our body and that you know it better of all!!!
If it possible, make a video telling us how to use our body for better, faster and safer performance with a powerful scoot..😉
Will do our best
Thanks
Hi Anthony,
This is a great question. I wrote a couple articles about racing, but they were mainly on applying motorcycle racing techniques to riding scooters. I don't have one about the body mechanics for scooter riding. I wish I had some track time to develop a feel for the right way to carry a lot of speed through corners. So far, my gut feel is that scooters feel pretty sketchy when you're trying to carry a ton of speed through corners, because the mass is so centralized in the deck. I haven't tried PMT tires yet. I think a scooter like the Wolf King GT with PMT's might be really good because the weight is spread out into the stem (motor controllers mounted on the big heavy forks). -Paul
electric-scooter.guide/guides/scooter-racing-track-techniques/
electric-scooter.guide/guides/scooter-racing/
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Both articles are very helpful, trying to pass "the circuit racing movement" from a motorcycle to an e-scooter ..!!
You understand exactly my question and I'm happy to yours response!!
With a few words... To go to the next level of riding fast with safety, must make a lot of "rounds" to find "the best" riding style.. of course from scooter to scooter we have changes, but here we are taking about unprofessional riding...
Respect Paul for all your research and helpful ideas!!👏👏
Thanks Paul for your great videos , is it have off-road tires?
That’s an option on some sites! Check the link in description
I don’t understand how this topped out at basicly 44 mphs when i hit that in my Apollo city pro ? This thing has much more power
Maybe km per hour! Apollo city pro won’t get to 44mph! Not even close.
Bang Bang! Burn E gang.
Awesome scooter
I feel like they should at least have made it to go at least 46-48 mph
Try it downhill 😀
-Vosk
At that point you might as well say 50 mph
@@catgirlow might as well just say 60 at this point
@@davejohnson8338 nah 46-48 isn’t rounded to 60
In your opinion guys, going same speed (20-30mph) which scooter should get more range? Nami Burn e 2 or Wolf King GT Pro? Deciding between the two and wondering about range at low commute speeds.
And aside from price which do you guys think is a better but for the price?
Nami has a better suspension overall! Range should be very similar
-Vosk
I have PMTS on my 28ah Nami and I get really good range. Doing between 20-30kmph I get 120kms (day ride) altho I know a person with a wolf gt and they got 80-90km but I'm not too sure how he was riding.
No comparison between the Wolf suspension and ride comfort to the Nami. Nami is Worlds better
So tempted, but I would just be using it to commute... and it's not cheap.
Should I wait for the new apollo pro? Or at least wait for BF deals.
This is def an awesome scooter! There will be deals for BF most likely.
I just bought the X7 Pro (because I am just starting and happen to be a 250ish individual) and love the freedom of e-scooting but I have to learn how to get more comfortable while riding in traffic. Any tips?
Tips - pay attention to the road and people! Keep your hands on the handlebars at all times and wear proper safety equipment and make sure cars see you when you cross the street! -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide learning/learned my lesson dealing with some minor injuries, but I take them as lessons learned. I definitely will keep that in mind: just need to improve my judgment on drivers to my back.
In this class of scooter which one is easiest to maintain? In terms of tire changes, brake, and suspension maintenance.
That's a great question. The CST 11" tires I've worked with have been a complete pain in the butt to change. I Think th TUOVTT tires are a little easier to install and get seated.
All of the scooters should be similar in terms of brakes, though I feel like Zoom brakes go soft on us faster than Nutt, and so far the Logans still feel perfect.
Anything with connectors near the controls: so called plug-and-play connectors, is going to be fairly easy to work on. The NAMI scooters have them, as do most of the recent scooter designs.
The NAMI is a fairly open design, so it's easy to get to everything, and unlike some scooters, you don't have to stuff 2 pounds of wire spagghetti into a 1 lb box in order to close the lid.
Suspension maintenance is a very interesting question. Hydraulic shocks like these will eventually leak and fail. The good news is that they're easy to remove and replace and are a fairly common size if you want to swap them out for something else. The Wolf scooters don't really take full advantage of having hydraulic forks and are probably less prone to leaking because they aren't causing any pressure inside the seals.
Basically, I don't see a big difference between the beast-scooters in terms of maintenance.
-Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I appreciate the detailed answer, and the good content. Thanks!
Hey, thank you for the review. Have you had a chance to review the NANROBOT LS7+? if so what are your thoughts? is it comparable to the Burn E?
We have not had a chance but we will try to obtain one to possibly review. -Vosk
Looks better built then my Apollo Phantom V1.
Good quality
I am trying to find information on max speeds for each mode on the nami burn e 2. It seems that no reviews or sites or videos share that info. Yes u showcase the top end performance mode speed but I am so curious on the other modes to determine range and focus for charging especially since i will use this for work and some enthusiastic riding
We only test on top speed mode! -Vosk
In Chile, the 28ah one will be called "Sport" 👌
Nice!
Please can you do an acceleration and a range test between the burn e2 max and gt pro? Thank you.
We will do our best
I just spent the extra and got the name burn e 40ah because I just couldn’t bare to think about buying Chinese brand cells incase they were crap
That’s awesome! Enjoy your new scooter.
-Vosk
Wish you guys would test the Bluetran Lightning against these other $3000 72v scooters!
Hopefully we can
shame they didnt mention the lightning which should have a similar top speed, longer range, weighs less and costs 400 less for the 72 v 35 ah version
We haven’t tested the Lightning yet, so we aren’t able to confirm any of their claims through testing. I’ve read that it only has a 30A controller. Do you know if the larger battery version’s controller has more amps? If not, it will be much slower than the NAMI. -Paul
Nice ... Now give me a single motor version with the smaller battery! That should push it under 2500 bucks right
Good idea
Can I install the 50a controllers on the e2 with xt90 on the battery?
Not sure!
I would like to see the MAX review for the BURN E2 please. God bless.
Will do our best
How much miles would I get on the lowest settings?
We don’t test on lowest settings! You should get plenty
What makes the WKGT Pro more difficult to ride? I’ve been considering one as my first PEV for recreational riding.
They are both awesome scooters but with the Nami carving is much easier!
Nothing lol. The WKGT is Amazing
Not bad. I wish the fix that footrest
What’s wrong with it ?
Please make a guide on buying a second hand escooter
Nice call
-Vosk
NICE REVIWE THANKS
COOL SCOOTER.
Thank you Dennis!
-Paul
finger pinching is really scary
For sure
-Vosk
Hello I am in 2 minds this or the kaabo wolf king GT which one do you think I should get but I have been told that the suspension is too stiff on the GT is that true and I am from UK so the roads are not perfect here
Nami has a better suspension overall
-Vosk
Had mine for 3 days, rear motor broke.. fantastic for 3600€. So dissapointed..
We are sure they will help you replace it!
Did you review the DUALTRON X2 ELECTRIC SCOOTER boss? thx!
Not yet
I love the display , imo all these higher end scooters over 3k should all have screens like this or better , possibly integrated. Anything less to me is unacceptable
We agree
would you recommend the burn-e 2 or mantis king gt, if I'm trying to get about 20-30 miles of range
Burn E 2 for the win! -Vosk
Rion Apex or this beast?
Good question! I would love to ride an Apex, but Rion seems to not want to send us their stuff. I've promised to be nice, but I can't hellp but feel like they don't want us to test it. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide How come?! You're such a nice guy who's a scooter, supercar, and motorhead enthusiast.
Does the 28 amp version Nami have speed limiter wires like the previous version?
Depends on the country you are in
-Vosk
@Electric Scooter Guide any plans on reviewing the Bluetran Lightning by Dualtron? I have one on the way
We will try to do the review
-Vosk
Can you purchase the motors and controllers for the Burn-E 2 Max separately and upgrade this cheaper version? Would love to get the cheaper model if I would be able to upgrade to the faster speeds in the future.
Not sure! You would have to ask your Nami dealer
Nope! I contacted fluidfreeride and they said the battery for the burn e max 2 alone is $3200….. which is a major deterrent
@@pittdtc8580 That's incredibly Absurd and I believe it
It looks like now seat can be installed on it?
Have not seen it yet
I'm sorry. Perhaps I missed the $1,500 Nami. Can you send me the link to the $ 1.500 nami?
Ah, I was trying to figure out where that $1,500 number came from. I went ahead and added a dash to the title, so it reads "New $1,500-Cheaper version" instead of "New $1,500 Cheaper version"
Thanks for pointing that out. -Paul
@electric scooter guide thank you Paul. It was a bit confusing. I have version 1 and I love my nami.
Nice! Such great scooters! -Paul
Can this be ridden in the rain? I just dont wanna buy it, it starts raining before I head home from work and it craps out on me. It will be my main source of commuting.
It should be fine in light rain
-Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide awesome. Im not trying to be riding around in a downpour anyway.
was about to buy it but in my country not realese it.. omg. such deal breaker
Andreas, where are you located? Is it just the BURN-E 2 that's not available? Or is it all NAMI scooters? -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide both :( ! lol
What are the best brake upgrades for the nami burn e2 max? My one the brakes have a 2cm dead zone! Which means the levers have to be really far away from the grips… I want no dead zone like like my mountain bike so I can make the levers really close… cheers guys for any help :)
The hydraulic brakes should be good enough! To be honest
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide yeah they are decent but compared to my mountain bike they are nowhere close! And also the thumb throttle is annoying as it affects the grip on handlebars, also the buttons are all evelated far away from thumb and they have put buttons on the wrong side lol
To use turn signals or horn you have to take finger off throttle? It’s nuts! No thought into ergonomics… I had to switch all the buttons around to make it usable… the buttons should be flush with the bar and placed all on the left….
Just seems so obvious to me I can’t understand why they would design something with such obvious flaws… if anyone fancies hiring me on product development let me know! I’ve found lots of other faults with the scooter which would easily improve it…
Great deep dive!
Thanks for the kind words.
-Vosk
Thanks John! Good to hear from you. Miss everyone from the love show!
-Paul
Has anyone had to replace a tyre on one of these yet? Is it the same type two peace split rim. Kinda like the kaabo Mantis? :)
This is a tubeless tire! Not split rim
-Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide thanks vosk :) long time no speak bud. Hope things are well for you.
So have they sorted the problem with the motors burning out?
We believe so! -Vosk
Thanks. That's definitely a Huge concern, and relief as I'm about to order through Fluid. I hope you're right..
I know you explicitly say this is the best ride quality and suspension you've used, but more specifically, how would you compare it to let's say a wolf warrior x pro in terms of ride quality and suspension? It is worth noting the x pro does not have the same controller as this either, it uses the more jerkey one.
Range and ride quality are by far the most important thing to me and considering an offer for $1800 for my used ww x pro to go ahead and upgrade to this. I just want to make sure the upgrade is not super small. I don't anticipate performance to be much different, of at all.
That's a tough one. The Wolf Warrior X and Pro are still two of the most underrated scooters ever. they are ridiculously good for the price.
The X and X pro are a bit more nimble than any 11" tire scooter. Because the suspension is so good on the X and X Pro, to me, the big difference is that the BURN-E 2 has gobs of acceleration. The X takes 1.5 times as long to get to 35 mph as the BURN-E 2. (5.5 sec vs 8.1sec) The NAMI suspension is way better than most scooters, but only a little better than the Wolf scooters. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide What about the fact my version of wolf warrior x, as in the pro it uses the minimotors controller? Does the smoother acceleration factor into my decision much for ride quality? I should note I’m in a pretty dense urban city with a huge range in road conditions. From very poor city road littered with pot holes and uneven surfaces to beautiful silky smooth city fresh roads.
I find the wolf warrior x pro to have pretty jerky acceleration and fairly poor suspension for speeds above 20 mph if road conditions are poor. I’d like to worry slightly less about pot holes and uneven road surfaces at 30 mph and higher, which 11 inch tires and adjustable suspend suspension would seem to do. The sine wave controller, the dashboard display, and others just seem like a bonus but a welcomed one.
I agree though that the wolf warrior x the none pro model is a beast of a deal. Unfortunately for me even the x pro is teetering on insufficient battery range, so no way the base model worked for me. Range is another reason I’m strongly considering this scooter as an upgrade. P.S I’d consider my self a huge scooter enthusiast and the idea of absolutely best in class dedicated non portable commuter electric scooter is one I’m okay with.
Hi Jacob,
Yeah, the throttle is way way better on the NAMI. I've gotten used to the MiniMotors controllers on the X Pro, but the NAMI is smoother as butter, but also huge huge power, which is the best combination. The 11" tires, better suspension and super solid frame also make the worst potholes feel way better.
We did get 25% more range out of the BURN-E 2 than the WW X Pro, while also going faster on the NAMI. So the range improvement will be noticeable on the BURN-E 2 vs X Pro. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide So I purchased and received and tested this scooter in the video. I can say it's actually a pretty significant upgrade for the specific things I care about, range, dealing with poor roads, and throttle/break ergonomics.
The size of the tires and the superior suspension is specifically very noticeable when coming across poor road conditions.
@@jacobkemple7747 I've been looking at the WWX base model (due to sinewave controller and fact I'd put a second battery on it anyway) for quite some time. I was about to pull the trigger on it but then this cheaper Nami came around and I've read the above comments between you and Paul at ESG and now I'm not sure which route to go. I'm a small (5'5" 120 lbs) scooter nerd and I feel like quality is the most important to me. I really do want the Max to be able to go above 50 MPH but not sure if it's worth the extra $1,400.....Since you now have both the WWX and the Nami Burn-E 2 which one do you prefer? Is the extra cost on the Nami worth it compared to the WWX? Even Paul is saying that WWX is super under-rated and for $2k it's hard to argue with...I would hate to spend $2k though and then be upset that I didn't spend the extra $1,400 for the Nami but was hoping it might be similar to the feeling of not spending the extra $1,400 on the Max....Is 45 MPH max top speed enough?
The generic Chinesium battery has me apprehensive. Batteries are the biggest expense on these scooters--and they are very expensive to replace.
Depends on who makes it! Segway max also had China cells but excellent quality.
-Vosk
Disagree. The svett 10+ has better performance similar shocks. 50 mph and 50 miles. And can be found for 1800 on sale.
There are several excellent options out there for sure! Thanks for watching.
Where can i buy this scooter? Thank you..
Here you go 🔗geni.us/AbeVr7Q?track=yt
Pauleeeeeeeeeee. (Nice review Paul)
Thanks for the kind words.
-Paul
Where is the Nami viper range extender
What do you mean ?
How do I get one in the U K ?
www.rideandglide.co.uk/product/nami-burn-e-electric-scooter/
Will you guys be reviewing the Wolf King GT Pro? Debating between the Nami Burn E-2 Lite and the Wolf King GT Pro. Specifically looking for which has better range.
Most likely!
-Vosk
Actually, we did! At the time Voro wasn’t using the full name, so we left the Pro off of the thumbnail, but the one we reviews is the Pro! :-)
Here’s the link!
ua-cam.com/video/7oousNwubV8/v-deo.html
-Paul
Please tell me I can ride this being 5' 2"...?
Might be slightly tall for you!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Does that mean I will be unable to use it?
bruh this scoot is tall(handlebars) when your feet is on the ground 😂 i'm 5'7", you better try it first..
Can I use this in Germany?
Depends on your local scooter laws!
burn-e2 vs klima?
Klima is smaller! Lighter. Depends on what you are looking for. Both are great options. You can get $100 off the Klima with code RIDERGUIDE100
I'll still take my Nanrobot LS7+(New Edition) over all these, j/s.
Enjoy your scooter
Congratulations
It looks like the Nanrobot doesn't have Sinewave controllers or "Self-sealing" tires which are huge downsides.
@@davejohnson8338 The LS7+ has sine wave controllers, also the new D6+ 2.0 uses sine wave.
Mine came with a rear motor that doesn't work 😒
Please contact your dealer and they will for sure assist you on that one!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I did, they expect me to send it back instead of expecting the video evidence. As it would take a week to get to them and God knows how long for it to get to the maker and back with shipping so stuffed it would be a month if not longer to get it back and as I've no other transport or the ability to walk to the nearest shop with failing cartilage in my feet being the reason for buying it in the first place I can only assume that they don't trust the computer to give correct information.
So I'm left to assume the dealer (Cruise Australia) is crap support.
Do you know if the computer is trustworthy so I'm not waiting my money on another new one?
I'm here! 15 minutes late :)
Thanks for watching and commenting Lungu! -Paul
Not sure I consider nami or any scooters like them the Ferrari of the scooter world. Maybe more like the dodge SRT line of scooters
Haha! Thanks for watching. -Vosk
I’ll just go with king gt,same price but faster and more stable
Thanks for your feedback
-Vosk
More Stable? How so...
Just bought it.
That’s awesome! Enjoy your new beast
-Vosk
where is the 100 discount? i ordered mine earlier but then saw this video. i tried using the link but discount is not applied
You have to add the discount code at checkout
-Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I already purchased mine this morning. Can you just apply it to my account? I reached out to your customer service. Hope it gets adjusted
is it me but what is the discount Code? i dont see it on the the description.. lol
ESGBURNE2
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide still waiting from Fluid to get back to me about this discount code. they are a bit slow on responding.
If you think the Nami Burn-E is the Ferrari of electric scooters. What is the Rion ?
Lamborghini!
Vice Versa