Lol that's what I'm here to find out 🤣 Trying to figure out which scooter to get 10+, 11+, wolf king...🤔 or something else. Without breaking the bank lol.
I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on one for my wife. I ride a thunder. Im more into range/ride suspension than speed. We live in downtown Los Angeles. I think the 10x is a great value. I rode the 10 and loved the ride smoothness riding around staples center where the lakers play.
Hey did you have to bleed the breaks yet if so how hard or easy would it be to someone who isn’t mechanically incline I just watched the walkthrough from revrides YT page and I’m so confused me being in northern Virginia it’s hard to find good electronic scooter shops
I cant believe you guys are in San Fran, so am I. i'm new to the Scooter community but I fell in love when i got my first cheap scooter, now im going to get one of these or the Mantis Pro and i've only had my scooter for about a week. lol. Its crazy addicting! Thanks for all the awesome content, you guys have helped me a lot in finding a new one.
great review, I've been looking at getting an electric ride for many months, watching countless videos, can't decide, then I discovered the VSETT 10+. !!!! THIS IS IT, like you said, it's the Porsche 911 of scooters! I'm sold!
It was between the VSett or Dualtron Eagle Pro on CL for $1600 with 130 miles. Had a couple extras too like Carbon fender and handle. The Eagles pro I've hit 38 mph on long stretches of road and 42 downhill. I'm 230 lbs so it still moves me quick. VSett is no joke it's a VERY good scooter which I highly recommend to anyone looking for one. I might have gone with it if it weren't for the great deal I got with the Eagle Pro. But now that I want that Strom!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Normally I don't like to hop on the hype bandwagon but the VSett sure hits the sweet spot. In fact maybe you can do a video of Scooters hall of Fame. Maybe a few will float to the top. Segway Ninebot Max & Emove to start. Segway for starting the scooter market and Emove for it's water resistance, long range and the entire package. Apollo maybe. We'll see in it's 2023 model. Not there yet. Almost. Minimotors too I just can't think of a reason. 😂 Not just the speedy ones. Good luck if you do!
Gps confirmed 46mph with turbo mode, 50psi tires, was not at peak volts at 64, P settings 3, did this as to not get as much voltage sag, weight 180, oh this is the kicker that was sight up hill too. Would not be surprised to hit 48mph or a little more with peak conditions.
I want Kaabo to update their Mantis line. Like 1400 or even 2000 watt dual motors and the same (or close!) weight of 60lbs. Nutt brakes as well. 11 and/or 12 inch tires.
I desperately want the mantis updated with hall sensored motors.... that's its weakest link IMO right now and make the folding mechanism better, it's terrible lol
I rode VSETT10+ at 12-15 mph on flat paved sidewalk 60 miles. mostly on cruise control. 28amp battery. I'm 210lbs. and top speed ever achieved was 43mph after proper magnet & tire size calibration. suspension is just right to my taste.
Oh wowI've been missin' out but shout out to the experts aka ESG for finally reviewing this :) I reviewed it back in July and gave this channel a shout. Good to see those data analysis and expert comparison with other scooters!!
love this comparison good job but VERY disagree on 5:54 :) come on guys - you can adjust it obviously and lover the gas lever towards brake lever - I done it on mine and it is good now. peace
This is all the way adjusted. Throttle touching master cylinder. I'm looking for an adapter bracket that would let them go closer without colliding. -Paul
Thank you ESG for reviewing the VSETT 10+. Been waiting for this review since March / April. You guys should do a scooter showdown with the VSETT 10+ vs Apollo Phantom 🛴🛴
@@jjayguy23 i know the VSETT has a higher top speed, but I’m curious on the build quality between these two. Also, would like to know which one is better at going up hills?
@@jjayguy23 the problems on Vsett would be - not locking handle in folded state and pathetic sound of its horn.. Maybe in the problems list would be some vibrations in mottor on throtle down
I’m at 1850 miles on my 10+ and still love it but the handlebars needed to be replaced as well as the suspension. The vinyl inserts on the shock mount points are worn down needing replacement and the metal coils aren’t hardened properly so as you increase the resistance it doesn’t last long and you end up having to do it more, I have already lost half the travel distance just trying to keep it stiff. The loose handlebar wobble mixed with the suspension issue makes for a very unstable ride especially at 40+ so unfortunately they will need to be replaced and in my opinion sooner is better, I haven’t wiped but I got really close to a high speed crash because of the combination of those issues. As for the speed limits I’m not sure what’s up with the differences between the results of this video versus my scooter because I ride on a 45mph road that everyone does 50-55 on and I keep up with traffic so my scooter definitely seems closer to if not faster than 50mph based on traffic but I realize that’s just anecdotal so I’ll have to gps that later to see, also I’m only 155lbs and I imagine that they hit those speeds with a light rider. My car has been sitting in the parking space for 3 months without driving it once… I actually look forward to my daily commute now and that’s something I never thought id hear.. yes the 10+ is awesome! Can’t say anything about the 10x because the 10+ is my first scooter but I don’t have any buyers remorse.✌️🛴💨
Great review but I disagree with the whole break throttle thing. You can adjust the throttle and lower it some more. It has 4 screws and the throttle and break will be at a great angle. I purchased two of yhese scooters and have had them for months now. I'm hitting 28 mph in gear 1, single motor so I know this thing can hit 50mph if you are 150lbs easily. 😀
you forgot to say the 60v zero 10x has 1200w motors, the vsett 10+ is nice, but there is no chance i would sell my zero 10x to get that, with the upgraded clamp and pad, steering damper and my lovely thumb throttle the zero 10x is a perfect beast that i love.
@@georgemcmonkey1887 mine does 40 to 45mph, but you have to not care about dying or the law, to do over 30mph on any of them lol(all of a sudden you realise your on a tiny thing) if you use a seat its different though
Hey did you have to bleed the breaks yet if so how hard or easy would it be to someone who isn’t mechanically incline I just watched the walkthrough from revrides YT page and I’m so confused me being in northern Virginia it’s hard to find good electronic scooter shops
2:09 ESG Database has top speed at 53mph so not sure why this testing has it 10mph slower. Please update the database since it was a serious contender for me at $2290 compared to the $2700 Victor
The 53 number is what the manufacturer claims. Top speed is 43. I tried several times. All on flat ground, averaging back to back runs in opposite directions. -Paul
Can't believe they advertise the vsett10+ for 50mph when it barely does 42, I'm sticking to my zero10x heck my bf bought a varla eagle one (a zero10x clone) then he built an external 35ah battery pack for a mindboggling 52volt55ah battery all for $2000 great investment.
For the live show, I think it affects the reliability of the stream, but I'll check with the guys. I always appreciate higher definition, myself. Thanks for the feedback! -Paul
I'm looking forward to trying it out soon....awesome review...nice that they got the light to a useful level for night rides....Cheers from BC Canada :)
the range depends on how fast you drive, plus if there's a person that weight much or alot of upwards hills, i've tested this myself and the range is longer that what is look like here
The finger throttle worries me in time of emergency braking with the other three fingers. Also, disappointed that the display is hard to read in daylight. I do like the Yellow on Black colors though.
after 2 years and about 4700km of distance, i'm planning to upgrade my m365 pro 2 to vsett 10+. actually dualtron was my dream but after i see reviews and videos (and needless to say, how it looks) now i consider DT might be overpriced for its specs. (feel free the prove me wrong everyone. to me, DT is rolls-royce of the scooters, but i am greatly shifting to this model - also i really dont need speed over 60ish km/h.) does vsett 10+ still a good deal in '23? also do you have knowledge about its maintenance easy as the pro 2? because for last 2 years i did all the maintenance of mine (except i couldnt figured out the creaking sound comes from/around the folding mechanism and i couldt replece front tire to solid one alone) final one (i'm sorry); how does vsett's 10x3 inch tires cope up with the wet surface (or any, in general) compared to 8.5 inch-as the pro 2 uses? (because i never rided before) any answer would be greatly appreciated - have a great ride!
Definitely a nice scooter I just recently got a used Varla eagle one for $900, I love the way it rides, I plan to beat on it and take if off roading, I would be too scared to take the vsett off roading but when I need to upgrade I will definitely consider that Vsett, love the color combo.
Thank you so much James! Those are both great scooters, but very different rides. The Ghost is super sporty and has adrenaline-rush inspiring acceleration. The Cruiser will get you places just as fast, but is much less intense on acceleration and is much more of a chill ride. Longer range for the cruiser, but higher top speed for the Ghost. The Ghost will handle huge bumps better than the Cruiser, but the Cruiser has all the suspension you need for normal on-road riding. -Paul
Great review Paul and ESG. Will the vsett 9+,9,8+,8 get the same review treatment?? Better ip rating and high mounted front light and high mounted turn signals, and thumb throttle options are all the vsetts are missing!
Thank you so much. We're not sure when we'll get to the other ones. We don't have the other scooters in house. The closest we've done to the 8 is the Splach Turbo. -Paul ua-cam.com/video/XyKM0dEBfMU/v-deo.html
really wish there was a video top 10 of like ultra portable scooters, prioritizing: folds up neatly, under 30 lbs or so, 15+mi range, ride comfort/quality. 40 lbs gets a bit heavy at times.
This is a good idea. It's been a while since we've looked at Ultra-Portables, and I don't know if we've done a larger-sized comparison. Chuck's first scooter was an ultra-portable! -Paul ua-cam.com/video/ea4k9mi1Xcc/v-deo.html
Waiting on the 60V Phantom so we can do a full performance comparison. We didn't feel like it made sense to compare the 52V verison of the Phantom with the 60V Vsett10+ when the 60V Phantom is coming (we hope) soon. -Paul
I'm curious if segway are the only ones that know how to make a quality stem clip for portability... you'd think if you pay over 1000 it would be better quality. My low end Es4 holds up nicely and that was just 700$..
Does the vsett have a sinewave controller or smooth control over the throttle like sinewave, and how about the phantom? Finally, what about the Inkom OXO, compared to the phantom and vsett?
For sure. Waiting on the 60V Phantom for that. All of the scooters we included in the test were 60V. Phantom build and ride quality are excellent, but at 52V the current version won't be as fast as the Vsett 10+ for sure. -Paul
There is no seat option for the VSETT 10+ and I want to ride seated sometimes, my Zero 10x with a seat is perfect for those "long" high speed runs and for even longer runs I´m waiting on my new Dualtron X2 UP ;)
Hey ESG I have a idea regarding the testing, pros and cons conclusions on these scooters and thought maybe one more thing that can be implemented in the videos is reliability ratings from 1/10 by researching customers complaints or problems or there reviews and what not? Alot ppl like performance scooters but want to know if they reliable for longer terms
I want to spend less than 2k. I am looking at this, Wolf Warrior X, Apollo Ghost, Varla Eagle One, and Blade X Pro or Blade 10. Looking for something over 40mph but under 80lbs. Which do you think is the best? I would like to see you guys do a review of the Blade scooters.
in 02.36, may i ask what speed you used to test range? was it full speed without "turbo" mode / dual/single motor or a speed like 40-50 km/h which both scooters easily achieve?
I’m looking for something with a suspension that is relatively soft due to my riding style. Would this be a good option? If not, could you make a suggestion.
It wouldn't be hard at all to change the handlebars. I actually like them a lot though, and wouldn't change them out if I had one. I've heard that there is a right angle adapter for the throttle that could really help the angle, but I haven't seen one in person yet to confirm. -Paul
Can we get a review and test comparison on the Vsett9+ with others in the same price range!? Please can't decide which to get vsett9+, mantis 10 or new emove cruiser
It's much better than the 10X suspension wise. The 10X feels too floaty to me. The Vsett 10+ has damping in the rear and stiffer springs overall. -Paul
Im thinking about getting this scooter, the only downsides i hear is the short deck and the weirdly placed throttle. Would you guys recommend any other scooters thats around this price with good specs and better throttle and deck? Thanks
Can you do a a scooter video with all the different scooters with detachable battery. I'm having a lot of trouble trying to figure out which one is best for me. Trying to commute to school with 20+ miles round trip, and being able to charge the battery while in class with the scooter locked outside
Just got this as my first scooter, My question is why is the right hand brake controlling the front wheel?.... isn't it supposed to control the rear wheel?
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Vosk its soo trippy....First ride almost did a front wheel stand lol. All life riding bikes and even motorcycles, all of them have right hand brakes that are responsible for rear wheel, it's actually a US standard.. Can't get used to it ...dumb
I got a $1500 saved up so far, can't want to save up more to buy this.... coming from the Hero X8 which starting to fall apart on me and don't feel safe riding anymore.....
Hi Shaun, Apollo Ghost is going to be the best bang for the buck, performance wise at around $1,500 -Paul electric-scooter.guide/reviews/apollo-ghost-review/
In Australia 🇭🇲 The electric scooter top speed is just 15 mph, I find it's too slow 😑!! I already have Vsett 10+ and Zero 10x. Moreover, I've already remove speed limiter!! And it goes faster!! I reach up to 35 mph (when no police officers, speed cameras and no one else nearby e.g. cyclist 🚲).
Yes, and you can adjust the level. Honestly, e-ABS is worthless though. True ABS interrupts the brake line and makes it so you can't lock the brakes. You can totally still lock the brakes with e-ABS on. I'm glad the scooter companies are trying things like this, but I don't think e-ABS is useful at all on any scooter, yet. -Paul
Braking-wise, either one is going to get the job done. I would say not that big of a deal. The main place I notice is that the reserviors take up more space, forcing the trigger to be higher. This bugs some people more than others and some aren't bothered by it at all. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide i heard zoom brakes have longer lever travel distance and with short fingers it harder to reach, cant compare them, because i dont have Nutt
Great question! I love both scooters. The Wolf King is freaky-fast, and just on another level in terms of acceleration. But, the King also has a much more abrupt throttle and is an absolute beast to move around. If you are a total throttle junkie, the King may be worth it. But the 10+ is still super fun on the throttle and satisfying to ride. I'm looking at both of them in the office right now. If I think about grabbing them and riding them, I look at the Vsett10+ and say "lets go". I look at the King and say "are you sure you're up for this right now?" It's that much of an intense machine, that if you are on the King in top performance mode, you have to keep all of your attention on the ride all the time. The Vsett10+ is still sporty, but lets you chill for a minute if you need to. I'm looking forward to the King GT, to see if the throttle has smoothed out. If so, it could be best-of-both-worlds amazing. -Paul
Why does a scooter costing this much still manage to have so many basic design flaws? The manufacturers seem to lack a lot of very basic mechanical and electrical knowhow, and just choose to put together a bunch of outsourced components that work together after a fashion, but do not inspire any confidence that they will still be working well in a couple of years time.
We're very picky when we look scooters over and no matter how good scooters get, we're going to find places where we think they could be even better. I love riding the Vsett 10+. It's one of the better scooters I've ever ridden. -Paul
Thanks For Your Knowledgeable Scooter Specifications... (I Always Learn New Things Watching Your Videos) ... OG GONE ELECTRIC ... ...... OG ON WHEELS ......
Is it true it has high speed wobbles sum say yes others say they’ve never had this issue while most say a damper is absolutely necessary. Can anyone confirm please???
the 10x is very dated now wheras the 10+ is a brand new beast. a better comparison would have been against the mantis pro or something along those lines.
The other scooters included in the review are the Mantis Pro and the Dualtron Eagle Pro. :-) But we thought the contrast with the 10X was interesting because of the Vsett's lineage. -Paul ua-cam.com/video/tO_8cr_ELvA/v-deo.html
Ok, PLEASE guys, I need your help here!! I'm trying to decide which scooter to buy, but after 1 month dedicating my spare time to this, I JUST CAN'T DECIDE! Vsett 10+ 25.6Ah with the new display/throttle, OR this new Nami Klima 25Ah. They are exactly the same price. Does anyone have (or have tried) both scooters to help me with this?!
Do you think the VSETT 10+ ( geni.us/GauBgh?track=yt ) is a level up from the Zero 10x? Let us know in the comments below.
Yes, everything about it is more refined
Lol that's what I'm here to find out 🤣 Trying to figure out which scooter to get 10+, 11+, wolf king...🤔 or something else. Without breaking the bank lol.
@@Arderick I'd go for Wolf King since it's 72v. The prices are similar so it's always worth it to go for more.
nope, it's a minor improvement in some areas and a let down in others.
@@Arderick 10+ or D6+ good options and similar price points
That's the bumble bee of all the scooters.
Awesome video and I'm thrilled you all reviewed our Vsett 10+! 👽🖖
Thanks so much for loaning it to us. Really enjoyed it! -Paul
I'm getting ready to pull the trigger on one for my wife. I ride a thunder. Im more into range/ride suspension than speed. We live in downtown Los Angeles. I think the 10x is a great value. I rode the 10 and loved the ride smoothness riding around staples center where the lakers play.
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Do you recommend the Apollo Ghost or the VSETT10+ for MORE reliable LONG-TERM and better customer service?
Hey did you have to bleed the breaks yet if so how hard or easy would it be to someone who isn’t mechanically incline I just watched the walkthrough from revrides YT page and I’m so confused me being in northern Virginia it’s hard to find good electronic scooter shops
I love my vsett 10+ in my opinion it's the best scooter ever
I cant believe you guys are in San Fran, so am I. i'm new to the Scooter community but I fell in love when i got my first cheap scooter, now im going to get one of these or the Mantis Pro and i've only had my scooter for about a week. lol. Its crazy addicting! Thanks for all the awesome content, you guys have helped me a lot in finding a new one.
great review, I've been looking at getting an electric ride for many months, watching countless videos, can't decide, then I discovered the VSETT 10+. !!!! THIS IS IT, like you said, it's the Porsche 911 of scooters! I'm sold!
It’s an excellent scooter overall! -Vosk
It was between the VSett or Dualtron Eagle Pro on CL for $1600 with 130 miles. Had a couple extras too like Carbon fender and handle.
The Eagles pro I've hit 38 mph on long stretches of road and 42 downhill. I'm 230 lbs so it still moves me quick.
VSett is no joke it's a VERY good scooter which I highly recommend to anyone looking for one. I might have gone with it if it weren't for the great deal I got with the Eagle Pro.
But now that I want that Strom!
I would take the Vsett for sure!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide
Normally I don't like to hop on the hype bandwagon but the VSett sure hits the sweet spot. In fact maybe you can do a video of Scooters hall of Fame.
Maybe a few will float to the top.
Segway Ninebot Max & Emove to start. Segway for starting the scooter market and Emove for it's water resistance, long range and the entire package. Apollo maybe. We'll see in it's 2023 model. Not there yet. Almost.
Minimotors too I just can't think of a reason. 😂
Not just the speedy ones.
Good luck if you do!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuideI just bought one for $800
Gps confirmed 46mph with turbo mode, 50psi tires, was not at peak volts at 64, P settings 3, did this as to not get as much voltage sag, weight 180, oh this is the kicker that was sight up hill too. Would not be surprised to hit 48mph or a little more with peak conditions.
I want Kaabo to update their Mantis line. Like 1400 or even 2000 watt dual motors and the same (or close!) weight of 60lbs. Nutt brakes as well. 11 and/or 12 inch tires.
I desperately want the mantis updated with hall sensored motors.... that's its weakest link IMO right now and make the folding mechanism better, it's terrible lol
Wow i want one", nice dive for reviewing the vsett 10 +
I rode VSETT10+ at 12-15 mph on flat paved sidewalk 60 miles. mostly on cruise control.
28amp battery.
I'm 210lbs.
and top speed ever achieved was 43mph after proper magnet & tire size calibration.
suspension is just right to my taste.
It’s a nice scooter
Oh wowI've been missin' out but shout out to the experts aka ESG for finally reviewing this :) I reviewed it back in July and gave this channel a shout. Good to see those data analysis and expert comparison with other scooters!!
love this comparison good job but VERY disagree on 5:54 :) come on guys - you can adjust it obviously and lover the gas lever towards brake lever - I done it on mine and it is good now. peace
This is all the way adjusted. Throttle touching master cylinder. I'm looking for an adapter bracket that would let them go closer without colliding. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide by looking on the side view I can tell you can still go 2 cm down
Thank you ESG for reviewing the VSETT 10+. Been waiting for this review since March / April. You guys should do a scooter showdown with the VSETT 10+ vs Apollo Phantom 🛴🛴
@@jjayguy23 i know the VSETT has a higher top speed, but I’m curious on the build quality between these two. Also, would like to know which one is better at going up hills?
@@jjayguy23 the problems on Vsett would be - not locking handle in folded state and pathetic sound of its horn.. Maybe in the problems list would be some vibrations in mottor on throtle down
@@milordas I returned mine, too dangerous.
@@milordas sounds like minor issues to me. There's scooters like zero 10x where there's no locking mechanism or horn.
I’m at 1850 miles on my 10+ and still love it but the handlebars needed to be replaced as well as the suspension. The vinyl inserts on the shock mount points are worn down needing replacement and the metal coils aren’t hardened properly so as you increase the resistance it doesn’t last long and you end up having to do it more, I have already lost half the travel distance just trying to keep it stiff. The loose handlebar wobble mixed with the suspension issue makes for a very unstable ride especially at 40+ so unfortunately they will need to be replaced and in my opinion sooner is better, I haven’t wiped but I got really close to a high speed crash because of the combination of those issues. As for the speed limits I’m not sure what’s up with the differences between the results of this video versus my scooter because I ride on a 45mph road that everyone does 50-55 on and I keep up with traffic so my scooter definitely seems closer to if not faster than 50mph based on traffic but I realize that’s just anecdotal so I’ll have to gps that later to see, also I’m only 155lbs and I imagine that they hit those speeds with a light rider. My car has been sitting in the parking space for 3 months without driving it once… I actually look forward to my daily commute now and that’s something I never thought id hear.. yes the 10+ is awesome! Can’t say anything about the 10x because the 10+ is my first scooter but I don’t have any buyers remorse.✌️🛴💨
My zero10x have 4,000 miles on it and never had problems with the suspension
@@destinacecilia4422 vinyl in suspension? wtf.. is there any bearing at all?
Great review but I disagree with the whole break throttle thing. You can adjust the throttle and lower it some more. It has 4 screws and the throttle and break will be at a great angle. I purchased two of yhese scooters and have had them for months now. I'm hitting 28 mph in gear 1, single motor so I know this thing can hit 50mph if you are 150lbs easily. 😀
Insightful! Thanks for sharing. -Vosk
I’ve hit 48 on the speedometer but not sure if that’s actual 48mph. I’m 160
you forgot to say the 60v zero 10x has 1200w motors, the vsett 10+ is nice, but there is no chance i would sell my zero 10x to get that, with the upgraded clamp and pad, steering damper and my lovely thumb throttle the zero 10x is a perfect beast that i love.
Wao that's nice
Did they upgrade it from the factory?
@@KazuyaST no upgraded it it myself
What's the top speed?
@@georgemcmonkey1887 mine does 40 to 45mph, but you have to not care about dying or the law, to do over 30mph on any of them lol(all of a sudden you realise your on a tiny thing) if you use a seat its different though
VSETT 10+ is easily one of our favourite e-scooters 🙌🏼
Hey did you have to bleed the breaks yet if so how hard or easy would it be to someone who isn’t mechanically incline I just watched the walkthrough from revrides YT page and I’m so confused me being in northern Virginia it’s hard to find good electronic scooter shops
How are the mudguards on the VSETT? The zero 10x guards don’t really do much of anything you’ll get dirty
The vsett 10+ is a blast love it
I honestly enjoy Paul's reviews more than Chuck's. For me, the speed at which he speaks makes it easier to watch
Thanks for the feedback! One of my favorite features of UA-cam is being able to watch at 1.5X to 2.0X regular speed :-) -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I just tested one of his at 1.25, idk why I didn't think of this before lol. Thanks!
2:09 ESG Database has top speed at 53mph so not sure why this testing has it 10mph slower. Please update the database since it was a serious contender for me at $2290 compared to the $2700 Victor
The 53 number is what the manufacturer claims. Top speed is 43. I tried several times. All on flat ground, averaging back to back runs in opposite directions.
-Paul
Can't believe they advertise the vsett10+ for 50mph when it barely does 42, I'm sticking to my zero10x heck my bf bought a varla eagle one (a zero10x clone) then he built an external 35ah battery pack for a mindboggling 52volt55ah battery all for $2000 great investment.
For the live show, I think it affects the reliability of the stream, but I'll check with the guys. I always appreciate higher definition, myself. Thanks for the feedback! -Paul
Excellent Video Presentation With Great Professional Communication And Knowledge Will Definitely Be Ordering Soon After Watching This Video.
Thanks for the kind words
-Vosk
Finally figured out how to work a shot of my (former) red car into a video!
Can you guys do a review of vest 9+ please?
Perfect review, thanks!
I'm looking forward to trying it out soon....awesome review...nice that they got the light to a useful level for night rides....Cheers from BC Canada :)
Thank you! -Paul
excelente review
the range depends on how fast you drive, plus if there's a person that weight much or alot of upwards hills, i've tested this myself and the range is longer that what is look like here
You are absolutely correct!
The finger throttle worries me in time of emergency braking with the other three fingers. Also, disappointed that the display is hard to read in daylight. I do like the Yellow on Black colors though.
after 2 years and about 4700km of distance, i'm planning to upgrade my m365 pro 2 to vsett 10+. actually dualtron was my dream but after i see reviews and videos (and needless to say, how it looks) now i consider DT might be overpriced for its specs. (feel free the prove me wrong everyone. to me, DT is rolls-royce of the scooters, but i am greatly shifting to this model - also i really dont need speed over 60ish km/h.)
does vsett 10+ still a good deal in '23? also do you have knowledge about its maintenance easy as the pro 2? because for last 2 years i did all the maintenance of mine (except i couldnt figured out the creaking sound comes from/around the folding mechanism and i couldt replece front tire to solid one alone)
final one (i'm sorry); how does vsett's 10x3 inch tires cope up with the wet surface (or any, in general) compared to 8.5 inch-as the pro 2 uses? (because i never rided before)
any answer would be greatly appreciated - have a great ride!
I have ridden this Vsett10+ scooter and its acceleration is very fast, it is sometimes underestimated, and it goes fast for me as a 105 kg guy...
What kind of Range do you get? I'm 95kg and this review is saying a measly 54km but on the website that sells it says a lot more?
Definitely a nice scooter I just recently got a used Varla eagle one for $900, I love the way it rides, I plan to beat on it and take if off roading, I would be too scared to take the vsett off roading but when I need to upgrade I will definitely consider that Vsett, love the color combo.
Esg as always amazing content! What would you recommend between apollo ghost and the emove cruiser? I'm trying to decide which one to get.
Thank you so much James!
Those are both great scooters, but very different rides. The Ghost is super sporty and has adrenaline-rush inspiring acceleration. The Cruiser will get you places just as fast, but is much less intense on acceleration and is much more of a chill ride. Longer range for the cruiser, but higher top speed for the Ghost. The Ghost will handle huge bumps better than the Cruiser, but the Cruiser has all the suspension you need for normal on-road riding. -Paul
Great review Paul and ESG. Will the vsett 9+,9,8+,8 get the same review treatment?? Better ip rating and high mounted front light and high mounted turn signals, and thumb throttle options are all the vsetts are missing!
Thank you so much. We're not sure when we'll get to the other ones. We don't have the other scooters in house. The closest we've done to the 8 is the Splach Turbo.
-Paul
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really wish there was a video top 10 of like ultra portable scooters, prioritizing: folds up neatly, under 30 lbs or so, 15+mi range, ride comfort/quality. 40 lbs gets a bit heavy at times.
This is a good idea. It's been a while since we've looked at Ultra-Portables, and I don't know if we've done a larger-sized comparison. Chuck's first scooter was an ultra-portable! -Paul
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If you're braking does the throttle power cut out so you don't end up pulling the throttle and brake at the same time?
Zero 10x 3k in nz is what I've got vsett $3500 i was going to get the vsett but na i want the hero 10x it's a beautiful machine.
We like the Vsett line!
What do you think of the Vsett 10 Apex? We are talking about an improved version of the Vsett 10 +.
We have not tested the apex one
I hope they send you guy’s the updated versions with the new throttle & display.
Hopefully! -Vosk
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Compared to Apollo Phantom?
Waiting on the 60V Phantom so we can do a full performance comparison. We didn't feel like it made sense to compare the 52V verison of the Phantom with the 60V Vsett10+ when the 60V Phantom is coming (we hope) soon. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide I hope the Ludo Phantom will come sooner than later.
To me best scooter for the mony, compact, you can cary him. Spead is 60km +sport mode for skuter that Is more than I need .
It’s an excellent scooter for sure! -Vosk
I think the upcoming Apollo Phantom V2 is a more polished product over the VSETT 10+ , they are also equal in price and spec's
Have any experience with either. I’m looking at both.
I really would love to see the comparison between Nanrobot D6+ vs VSETT 10+ and Zero 10X, possible ?
Which is a better scooter? The vsett 10+ or the wolf warrior 11
10 inch tires vs 11? are you serious?
I'm curious if segway are the only ones that know how to make a quality stem clip for portability... you'd think if you pay over 1000 it would be better quality. My low end Es4 holds up nicely and that was just 700$..
Cool
Apollo Phantom V2 (with V3 upgrade kit later on) or Vsett 10+ :D? If suspension and ride comfort is of utmost importance
Both excellent! Can’t go wrong with either to be honest. Depends what you like better when it comes to looks. -Vosk
Does the vsett have a sinewave controller or smooth control over the throttle like sinewave, and how about the phantom?
Finally, what about the Inkom OXO, compared to the phantom and vsett?
What about a Vsett 10+ vs the Apollo Phantom? That's something many are looking forward to.
For sure. Waiting on the 60V Phantom for that. All of the scooters we included in the test were 60V. Phantom build and ride quality are excellent, but at 52V the current version won't be as fast as the Vsett 10+ for sure. -Paul
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And now that the Phantom V2 60V is available, what is your verdict if we compare it with the Vsett 10+?
I remember i read somewhere that they are both made in the same factory apollo and vsett
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Yes! Exactly!
There is no seat option for the VSETT 10+ and I want to ride seated sometimes, my Zero 10x with a seat is perfect for those "long" high speed runs and for even longer runs I´m waiting on my new Dualtron X2 UP ;)
Enjoy your new scooter
Can you do a video with solar p1 pro? Btw very good presentation😊
We will do our best! Thank You. -Vosk
Hey ESG I have a idea regarding the testing, pros and cons conclusions on these scooters and thought maybe one more thing that can be implemented in the videos is reliability ratings from 1/10 by researching customers complaints or problems or there reviews and what not? Alot ppl like performance scooters but want to know if they reliable for longer terms
Thanks for the suggestions
I want to spend less than 2k. I am looking at this, Wolf Warrior X, Apollo Ghost, Varla Eagle One, and Blade X Pro or Blade 10. Looking for something over 40mph but under 80lbs. Which do you think is the best? I would like to see you guys do a review of the Blade scooters.
We will try to review a blade scooter in the future! In the list you have the ghost is a excellent choice. -Vosk
Mantis pro means the mantis king gt or is another model?
The height of the handle bars looked short when Ramier was riding it.
They are very good height for RAMIER! -Vosk
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Can you guys review the Vsett 8? There are barely any reviews on it and it seems like a pretty decent commuter scooter
It’s an older scooter! No reviews planned. Sorry about that.
in 02.36, may i ask what speed you used to test range? was it full speed without "turbo" mode / dual/single motor or a speed like 40-50 km/h which both scooters easily achieve?
Speed test is average 18-20mph
The best onne i ever seen !!
I’m looking for something with a suspension that is relatively soft due to my riding style. Would this be a good option? If not, could you make a suggestion.
What’s up with the ergonomics? Can it not be adjusted or altered to other components ?
It wouldn't be hard at all to change the handlebars. I actually like them a lot though, and wouldn't change them out if I had one.
I've heard that there is a right angle adapter for the throttle that could really help the angle, but I haven't seen one in person yet to confirm. -Paul
Can we get a review and test comparison on the Vsett9+ with others in the same price range!? Please can't decide which to get vsett9+, mantis 10 or new emove cruiser
Vsett 9+ for leisure summer including offroading, Emove for heavy rain commuting, mantis for a stressful life
Vsett 10 plus honestly I was un the same boat as you. Picked vsett 9 plus in Sweden then upgraded to 10 plus lost 100 euros in the process
Is the suspension as good as with the Zero 10x?
It's much better than the 10X suspension wise. The 10X feels too floaty to me. The Vsett 10+ has damping in the rear and stiffer springs overall. -Paul
Im thinking about getting this scooter, the only downsides i hear is the short deck and the weirdly placed throttle. Would you guys recommend any other scooters thats around this price with good specs and better throttle and deck? Thanks
Deck is decent! It’s not short! -Vosk
I didn't understand how to handle a wet road! Is VSETT 10+ water friendly?
Not very
Don't let anything stop you, all VSETT models are IP54 water resistant.
You should test solar R1 from uk it would match the vendetta scooter
Can you do a a scooter video with all the different scooters with detachable battery. I'm having a lot of trouble trying to figure out which one is best for me. Trying to commute to school with 20+ miles round trip, and being able to charge the battery while in class with the scooter locked outside
Interesting idea! We will do our best. -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide you guys awesome
Just got this as my first scooter, My question is why is the right hand brake controlling the front wheel?.... isn't it supposed to control the rear wheel?
That is correct way on scooters! -Vosk
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Vosk its soo trippy....First ride almost did a front wheel stand lol. All life riding bikes and even motorcycles, all of them have right hand brakes that are responsible for rear wheel, it's actually a US standard.. Can't get used to it ...dumb
So big angle from throttle and brake lever is because its Zoom brakes, Nutt brakes have less angle
I have a question about the Scooter Vsett 10+ Is it waterproof can I use it when it rains I hope to get a clear answer Thanks
Light rain should be okay!
Can I change the restriction on the speed ? Because where I'm from we can't go more the 25kms an hour
Yes there should be a way how to!
You had me pausing and saying nope right after you said the price... dont they make any that are equal in quality but cheap in price?
I got a $1500 saved up so far, can't want to save up more to buy this.... coming from the Hero X8 which starting to fall apart on me and don't feel safe riding anymore.....
Hi Shaun,
Apollo Ghost is going to be the best bang for the buck, performance wise at around $1,500 -Paul
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The electric scooter top speed is just 15 mph, I find it's too slow 😑!!
I already have Vsett 10+ and Zero 10x. Moreover, I've already remove speed limiter!! And it goes faster!!
I reach up to 35 mph (when no police officers, speed cameras and no one else nearby e.g. cyclist 🚲).
Very insightful! Thanks for watching. -Vosk
how would u compare it to the NAMI Burn e, which would u recommand?
Nami overall is a better scooter
Suspension , battery , top speed , build
-Vosk
You can take the handle bars off can you move the break an throttle
Insightful! Thanks for sharing. -Vosk
When can we expect a VSETT 9+ review?
hi! after 2 minutes in sport mode, you can press again to be in sport mode? or you wait some minutes and after you can press again?
You have to wait 5 min to cool down! -Vosk
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How will this compare with the upcoming Kaabo Mantis King GT ?
Full review is coming shortly!
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide Great, thanks. I'm pretty sure I want to buy either the Vsette 10+ or the Mantis King GT. I just can't decide which one !
I really this scooter , is it American made ?,how fast is the shipping ?
Thankyou
Not US made! Made in China. -Vosk
Great video! I think I'm about to get one. Does the vsett10+ have ABS?
Yes, and you can adjust the level. Honestly, e-ABS is worthless though. True ABS interrupts the brake line and makes it so you can't lock the brakes. You can totally still lock the brakes with e-ABS on. I'm glad the scooter companies are trying things like this, but I don't think e-ABS is useful at all on any scooter, yet. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide how exactly does e-abs work? I'm guessing it applies torque to the wheels to overcome brake pressure.
how big of a deal are the zoom vs nutt brakes?
Braking-wise, either one is going to get the job done. I would say not that big of a deal. The main place I notice is that the reserviors take up more space, forcing the trigger to be higher. This bugs some people more than others and some aren't bothered by it at all. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide i heard zoom brakes have longer lever travel distance and with short fingers it harder to reach, cant compare them, because i dont have Nutt
Would you suggest the vsett 10 over the phantom v3
Both are good but we like the phantom better. It’s actually on sale right now geni.us/ApolloPhantomV3
How do your feet stay on. How did Raimer like them?
Did you test the top speed in sport mode?
Yes. For sure. -Paul
Do you guys think the wolf king is worth the 700 dollars more than the vsett 10+
Great question! I love both scooters. The Wolf King is freaky-fast, and just on another level in terms of acceleration. But, the King also has a much more abrupt throttle and is an absolute beast to move around. If you are a total throttle junkie, the King may be worth it. But the 10+ is still super fun on the throttle and satisfying to ride. I'm looking at both of them in the office right now. If I think about grabbing them and riding them, I look at the Vsett10+ and say "lets go". I look at the King and say "are you sure you're up for this right now?" It's that much of an intense machine, that if you are on the King in top performance mode, you have to keep all of your attention on the ride all the time. The Vsett10+ is still sporty, but lets you chill for a minute if you need to. I'm looking forward to the King GT, to see if the throttle has smoothed out. If so, it could be best-of-both-worlds amazing. -Paul
WK is heavy
Vsett 10+ or the Apollo Phantom V2?! Which is better?
Vsett overall better, you're looking for reliability when it comes to scooters.
Where can i order a vsett10+ if i live in Romania ?
No idea to be honest!
Why does a scooter costing this much still manage to have so many basic design flaws? The manufacturers seem to lack a lot of very basic mechanical and electrical knowhow, and just choose to put together a bunch of outsourced components that work together after a fashion, but do not inspire any confidence that they will still be working well in a couple of years time.
We're very picky when we look scooters over and no matter how good scooters get, we're going to find places where we think they could be even better. I love riding the Vsett 10+. It's one of the better scooters I've ever ridden. -Paul
@@ESG-ElectricScooterGuide That’s a glowing review. I want one!!!
Huh?
Thanks For Your Knowledgeable Scooter Specifications... (I Always Learn New Things Watching Your Videos)
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Thanks so much for the kind words!
Is it true it has high speed wobbles sum say yes others say they’ve never had this issue while most say a damper is absolutely necessary. Can anyone confirm please???
A dampener would definitely make it a smoother ride for sure! -Vosk
Could i use the Zero 10x throttle on the Vsett 10+?
Please ask your local dealer
I wonder if the newer 2023 version is any faster?
We have not tested that one yet!
Why its the same 30-35a controller, no difference🤷♂️
How many flat tires have you had?
can you make video review vsett 9+?
Will try our best
Hi I'm just curious why the Vsett 10+ wasn't included on the best scooters of 2021 list? Seems like it checks all the boxes.
Good question
I have a vsett 10 with a burnt out controller in my garage. The company wouldn’t send me a new one. It’s completely off my list forever
Where did you purchase it ?
I love my Vsett 10+ R 28 MH. A lot better then my E-Move cruiser on build quality and mechanic maintenance… 🔧 🔨 🔩
It’s a great scooter
the 10x is very dated now wheras the 10+ is a brand new beast.
a better comparison would have been against the mantis pro or something along those lines.
The other scooters included in the review are the Mantis Pro and the Dualtron Eagle Pro. :-)
But we thought the contrast with the 10X was interesting because of the Vsett's lineage. -Paul
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Why not the varla one?
Ok, PLEASE guys, I need your help here!! I'm trying to decide which scooter to buy, but after 1 month dedicating my spare time to this, I JUST CAN'T DECIDE! Vsett 10+ 25.6Ah with the new display/throttle, OR this new Nami Klima 25Ah. They are exactly the same price. Does anyone have (or have tried) both scooters to help me with this?!
Wow! That’s tough. Raw performance: Klima all the way. But the Vsett has nice build quality and I think it’s a fair amount lighter. -Paul
I just got my 10+ it’s crazy fast
Yep it’s a nice scooter for sure
-Vosk