Over two years ago during the height of Monster Hunter World's release, I stumbled upon this video and this channel. I think that you're one of the people that helped to solidify my passion and love for game design and game development. Thank you. The growth and development of this channel, and your game Patch Quest gives me immense motivation to work hard as a software engineer so that one day I too can express my own appreciations and ideas about game design and game systems.
Wow this only got 4K views that’s so sad lmao. Good work dude. I’ve been enjoying tf out of this game and this was a good breakdown of what makes it so addictive!
@@muchiosgracias4 Late reply but yes it’s very active. They might have been talking about MHGU (on switch) which is a remaster of Monster Hunter Generations that was on 3DS. I personally love both, but there is a huge difference in graphics and detail in the environment on generations. But yes, MHW is beautiful
3:45 That reminds me of drinking potions in Zelda: Skyward Sword, which also left you vulnerable. Then, in Breath of the Wild, Nintendo said "F*** risk, now you can eat an entire buffet from the pause menu. Also, you can carry an entire buffet in your pocket." Great video!
I wouldn't consider the changes made from old MH to MHW make any game bad. MHW can have a map like this now because it has the hardware. I do enjoy MHW and the scoutflies more out of convienience, but I also like the paintballs. They're charming in a goofy way.
@@Raylightsen not clunkiness, just slower than most other games. Everything has weight to it, so you can’t just run up to a monster and cycle through combos for free-that’s a sure fire way to get knocked flat on your rear. Think of it like a fighting game: every move has end-lag, and spamming moves like a total noob-especially with characters (weapons) on the heavier end-is just going to end in you being at the utter mercy of any opponent who has a better grasp of what they’re doing than you do (the monsters). Here’s some advice from PunkDuck if you’re beginning with World or Rise: “Fuck the quests, fuck the town, fuck everything, you go to the training room and beat the ever-loving shit out of the dummy until you find a weapon you like.”
Apparently this needs to be said. Monster Hunter World is slow and deliberate compared to other fighting games. That is not the same as clunky. Clunky is having overly strict input requirements or a forced disconnect between intent and action. Not letting you cancel out of moves is a design choice to force you to be more deliberate and experience the back and forth “dance” that is monster hunter. You are fighting a behemoth with a sword, you are not the chosen one, it will kill you if you slip up, will you embrace the lifestyle of the hunter and leverage the advantages you have to come out on top? Or will you complain that the game isn’t anime enough because you can’t just hold your arms out to automatically grab the monster by it’s face and stop it mid charge
I'm struggling with it as well. I want to like the game, but the combat... At least if there was some animation cancelling, sometime I can't even roll to evade, etc.
@@PromethorYT The combat is like that by design; its supposed to make you consider your next move before committing, but it also depends on what weapon you're using. Sword and Shield or Dual blades have more reactive/mobile gameplay. Greatsword is very punishing to play but hits like a truck. Definitely not everyones cup of tea though.
@@JoeDraws5 Yes i'm very aware its designed this way, I still feel like that kind of combat is clunky. I feel like there must be other ways to make combat challenging and difficult than having long animation lock for each attacks.
Simple yes, but not ass. Witcher 3 has something MHW doesn't have. Heart, soul, story, and adventure. Which is its charm. MHW has its charm which is the combat. Don't be such an extremist. Have a lovely day and try to smile.
@@Silent_Shadow story is one thing, but are you really trying to say that there is no heart and soul behind monster hunter? if so, that is an absolutely preposterous thing to say and it's completely false
I wouldn’t say ass. I enjoyed Witcher 3s combat. Except every damn sword or axe is the SAME DAMN MOVESET. Monster hunter on the other hand has the unique weapons selection that plays completely deifferently from one another. I can use all weapons but find that I’m more attracted to the switch axe. I WAS a hardcore CB user at one point. Then I discovered that I’m actually great with th switch axe as well
@@marcheharvey2301 Don't lie to yourself. A lot of the difficulty of the game basically comes from the "clunkiness". It hasn't really changed all that much since older monster hunters. Don't worry I haven't found a game with good rpg melee combat. (not talking about fighting games like tekken)
I really wish that in the future, the developers for the Monster Hunter series, will take the combat's game design more seriously. Tachimawari in the series has actually kinda always been a joke unfortunately. There's no real way to not take damage reliably, unless of course you spend all of your time running around, using a gunner weapon. Too many monsters have attacks that aren't telegraphed enough. Add to the fact that you have to constantly sheath/unsheath your weapon, your dodges have only a couple of i-frames when a lot of the enemies' attacks have too many frames to evade. The game is made so that it isn't you who completely determines the outcome of the hunt, but rather your armor rating and statistics, when it should be that stats and perks only add to your own skill. Stupid things like iai spirit slash and the greatsword tackle, taking direct damage (not red damage) somehow found it's way into the game. Instead they rather have you rely on finite items and micro manage outside of hunts. I believe the only reason MHW became so popular in the west is because of good graphics, the hunting loop, released on consoles, and the whole thing is meant to be a shallow spectacle instead of a well thought out game that centers on combat.
@@mattpweston There are literally no hit runs for every single monster. In fact, there are literally naked (no armor) playthroughs, which makes your argument bunk. You are, and I mean this emphatically, just absolutely shit at the game and are making stuff up to defend your bruised gamer ego.
@@iyze8792 Post a video with you consistently dodging Nergigante without sheathing or attacking for three minutes and not getting hit. If not, shut the fuck up
Sorry mate, but youre 100% in the wrong here. If you said the menus were a bit much i wouldve agreed with you but nah, you probably got shit on by small monsters after picking a heavy weapon and expecting it not to have any weight
@@goodtimesgivecancer1 Whats up with all you mhw crybabys defending the shitty combat system in the comments? You dont even give a reason on why its good. You dont even try to understand why not everyone likes it. You just cry and bitch at anyone who doesn't like the combat. Bet you're a no life whos HR is 999.
@@incelmagnet1737 because ppl whining abt the combat gets the game changed in the next one, which makes the game worse for its preexisting fanbase. Its a p simple concept to grasp imo
It's fucking sad that most western action games fan's experience and standard of action games are probably only based on the classic GoW combat and the Batman games lmao.
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Over two years ago during the height of Monster Hunter World's release, I stumbled upon this video and this channel. I think that you're one of the people that helped to solidify my passion and love for game design and game development. Thank you. The growth and development of this channel, and your game Patch Quest gives me immense motivation to work hard as a software engineer so that one day I too can express my own appreciations and ideas about game design and game systems.
Great work and awesome breakdown
Wow this only got 4K views that’s so sad lmao. Good work dude. I’ve been enjoying tf out of this game and this was a good breakdown of what makes it so addictive!
Is the coop multiplayer still active? This looks like a beautiful game but a lot of people say the graphics are bad. I'm confused?
@@muchiosgracias4 Late reply but yes it’s very active. They might have been talking about MHGU (on switch) which is a remaster of Monster Hunter Generations that was on 3DS. I personally love both, but there is a huge difference in graphics and detail in the environment on generations. But yes, MHW is beautiful
@@pumpkinpeen5937 haha thanks
@@muchiosgracias4 sooo did you ever get one of them?
@@pumpkinpeen5937 yeah I got world but been playing red dead online for so long it's hard to break away
3:45 That reminds me of drinking potions in Zelda: Skyward Sword, which also left you vulnerable. Then, in Breath of the Wild, Nintendo said "F*** risk, now you can eat an entire buffet from the pause menu. Also, you can carry an entire buffet in your pocket." Great video!
0:28 BIRD UP!!! *DUN DUN DUN DUN*
I wouldn't consider the changes made from old MH to MHW make any game bad. MHW can have a map like this now because it has the hardware. I do enjoy MHW and the scoutflies more out of convienience, but I also like the paintballs. They're charming in a goofy way.
Im a dark souls guy this sounds similar to it combat wise
Feed the algorithm!
Is the combat similar to devil may cry as it was developed by capcom?
Not really. I've played both Iceborne and Devil May Cry 5, and personally they are two different experiences.
DMC is fast and fluid.
Monster hunter is worse than dark souls in clunkiness.
@@Raylightsen not clunkiness, just slower than most other games. Everything has weight to it, so you can’t just run up to a monster and cycle through combos for free-that’s a sure fire way to get knocked flat on your rear.
Think of it like a fighting game: every move has end-lag, and spamming moves like a total noob-especially with characters (weapons) on the heavier end-is just going to end in you being at the utter mercy of any opponent who has a better grasp of what they’re doing than you do (the monsters). Here’s some advice from PunkDuck if you’re beginning with World or Rise: “Fuck the quests, fuck the town, fuck everything, you go to the training room and beat the ever-loving shit out of the dummy until you find a weapon you like.”
very good.
Man... this is the best game ever
100% Agree
no.
You should try SEKIRO
How is this your first video?!
Apparently this needs to be said. Monster Hunter World is slow and deliberate compared to other fighting games. That is not the same as clunky. Clunky is having overly strict input requirements or a forced disconnect between intent and action. Not letting you cancel out of moves is a design choice to force you to be more deliberate and experience the back and forth “dance” that is monster hunter. You are fighting a behemoth with a sword, you are not the chosen one, it will kill you if you slip up, will you embrace the lifestyle of the hunter and leverage the advantages you have to come out on top? Or will you complain that the game isn’t anime enough because you can’t just hold your arms out to automatically grab the monster by it’s face and stop it mid charge
I'm playing the game currenlty, the most frustrating combat system I've ever faced.
I'm struggling with it as well. I want to like the game, but the combat... At least if there was some animation cancelling, sometime I can't even roll to evade, etc.
@@PromethorYT The combat is like that by design; its supposed to make you consider your next move before committing, but it also depends on what weapon you're using. Sword and Shield or Dual blades have more reactive/mobile gameplay. Greatsword is very punishing to play but hits like a truck. Definitely not everyones cup of tea though.
@@JoeDraws5 Yes i'm very aware its designed this way, I still feel like that kind of combat is clunky. I feel like there must be other ways to make combat challenging and difficult than having long animation lock for each attacks.
Get gud lul
Frustrating and clunky because its not the usual hacknslash where you press buttons then dodge whenever you want? Lol.
enemy (lack of) stamina is a huge reason i think that elden ring took the wrong lessons for combat
``Combat is so Satisfying``
I think you misspelled UNSATISFYING wrong.
Raylight I don't get it. Do you like MHW or not?
@@juantsu2000 lmao, he just double negatived so he definitely likes MHW
Get gud LuL
The game isnt for crybaby children who only like weeb hack and slash
@@goodtimesgivecancer1 ok, don’t be rude. I like MH too, but there’s much politer ways to say “it isn’t for everyone.”
why is combat mobility for this game a good review???
Wheras Witcher 3 combat is ass
Simple yes, but not ass. Witcher 3 has something MHW doesn't have. Heart, soul, story, and adventure. Which is its charm. MHW has its charm which is the combat. Don't be such an extremist. Have a lovely day and try to smile.
@@Silent_Shadow story is one thing, but are you really trying to say that there is no heart and soul behind monster hunter? if so, that is an absolutely preposterous thing to say and it's completely false
I wouldn’t say ass. I enjoyed Witcher 3s combat. Except every damn sword or axe is the SAME DAMN MOVESET.
Monster hunter on the other hand has the unique weapons selection that plays completely deifferently from one another.
I can use all weapons but find that I’m more attracted to the switch axe. I WAS a hardcore CB user at one point.
Then I discovered that I’m actually great with th switch axe as well
Western devs don't know how to make good 3rd person action games. Most are just classic Gow clobes and derivatives.
fanboy goggles for sure. Game is so clunky as fck.
There's no western made action game comparable to the japanese ones lmao. Go stuck to playing your typical "light attack/heavy attack" bullshit.
@@marcheharvey2301 Don't lie to yourself.
A lot of the difficulty of the game basically comes from the "clunkiness". It hasn't really changed all that much since older monster hunters.
Don't worry I haven't found a game with good rpg melee combat. (not talking about fighting games like tekken)
high quality bait
Slow and deliberate does not equal clunky
I really wish that in the future, the developers for the Monster Hunter series, will take the combat's game design more seriously. Tachimawari in the series has actually kinda always been a joke unfortunately. There's no real way to not take damage reliably, unless of course you spend all of your time running around, using a gunner weapon. Too many monsters have attacks that aren't telegraphed enough. Add to the fact that you have to constantly sheath/unsheath your weapon, your dodges have only a couple of i-frames when a lot of the enemies' attacks have too many frames to evade. The game is made so that it isn't you who completely determines the outcome of the hunt, but rather your armor rating and statistics, when it should be that stats and perks only add to your own skill. Stupid things like iai spirit slash and the greatsword tackle, taking direct damage (not red damage) somehow found it's way into the game. Instead they rather have you rely on finite items and micro manage outside of hunts. I believe the only reason MHW became so popular in the west is because of good graphics, the hunting loop, released on consoles, and the whole thing is meant to be a shallow spectacle instead of a well thought out game that centers on combat.
I think you suck at the game and you're using made-up ideas about the game to justify you sucking.
Why should rolls give you infinite s lol. If you get hit mid roll, you rolled too late
@@goodtimesgivecancer1 I never said rolls should have infinite i-frames. And you're an idiot, if you get hit mid roll, you rolled too early...
@@mattpweston There are literally no hit runs for every single monster. In fact, there are literally naked (no armor) playthroughs, which makes your argument bunk. You are, and I mean this emphatically, just absolutely shit at the game and are making stuff up to defend your bruised gamer ego.
@@iyze8792 Post a video with you consistently dodging Nergigante without sheathing or attacking for three minutes and not getting hit. If not, shut the fuck up
Did you compare fury combat with monster hunter ? Fury combat is very telegrphed monster hunter world combat is trash
Alright buddy, you probably just suck
But the combat is terrible and the controls are a clunky mess
Sorry mate, but youre 100% in the wrong here. If you said the menus were a bit much i wouldve agreed with you but nah, you probably got shit on by small monsters after picking a heavy weapon and expecting it not to have any weight
@@goodtimesgivecancer1 Whats up with all you mhw crybabys defending the shitty combat system in the comments? You dont even give a reason on why its good. You dont even try to understand why not everyone likes it. You just cry and bitch at anyone who doesn't like the combat. Bet you're a no life whos HR is 999.
@@incelmagnet1737 because ppl whining abt the combat gets the game changed in the next one, which makes the game worse for its preexisting fanbase. Its a p simple concept to grasp imo
It's fucking sad that most western action games fan's experience and standard of action games are probably only based on the classic GoW combat and the Batman games lmao.
Slow and deliberate does not equal clunky.